meaning unity. h standing for humility and a meaning patients. if we could all promote and live within this aloha spirit, we could all be in a better place not only in the city and county of honolulu and the state of hawaii, but across the nation. >> join us october 6 and seventh when we feature our visit to hawaii. c-span,waii weekend on c-span.org or listen on the c-span radio app. >> earlier today, author ann coulter joined us to talk about liberalism and the trump presidency and her new book "how the trump hating left lost its collective mind." on today's washington journal. we welcome author and syndicated columnist ann coulter who is out with a new book, "resistance is futile.". we will get to the book but first i want to make use of your legal background and get your thoughts. caller: i was wondering if that might come up. [laughter] -- guest: i was wondering if that might come up. [laughter] guest: i write a little about both cases in the book. the paul manafort case has nothing whatsoever to do with

trump. the ones ofmple of you import we have in this country, the office of the special counsel, robert mueller. rosen signed commission -- rosenstein should have just said , we think this guy is a sleaze, there must be something there. and now we have paul manafort and 17 talented prosecutors who are also liberal democrats searching for crimes of anyone around donald trump. if you do that to anyone, how would your viewers like it. there is a book called three felonies a day and the argument is there is so many federal felonies, not to imagine the state felonies, the elaborate -- the average law-abiding citizen could be following -- breaking

three loss per day. crimes, one is, a federal felony not to label a tampon on the level of absorbency.ee -- there was once an attempt to count felonies by the department of justice but they gave up in frustration. anyone who is fixated -- especially in something copper get it like tax law, i find it it -- democrats pushed these loans brought down economy, we need everybody to buy a house, that was official government policy imposed by not all republicans but the only people who did oppose it were republicans and they were yelled at by barney frank and maxine waters. that is people lying on loans to

buy houses. doesn't everyone know about that now? he is getting nailed for it? as for the tax case, i am definitely not a tax lawyer. i do know there are ways to evade taxes. pioneered by george soros. if you make money abroad, keep it in accounts of broad. has been moving money back and forth from the cayman islands to ireland, why not look at him? host: should the donald trump mensuration be more concerned -- administration they concerned 'sout michael --michael cohen guilty plea and him implicating donald trump? guest: it is hard to say because paul manafort has 100% nothing to do with donald trump.

less to do with russian collusion. cohen, it exposes the special counsel. then does not look like sort of person i would choose to be my legal representative. or anything else. he seems a little bit shady. i think most people are not florida there were some -- floored there were tax irregularities. violation forance paying stormy daniels, that shows the whole point is to get trump. i describe campaign violations in the book. the single most important point, we know people in washington, most normal people know campaign finance violations unless it is a crime against had a failure -- pedophilia.

they are obligated. the most important thing to that is this money money what is spent if not for the campaign which will be hard to prove that a man whose namesake is all of his businesses, his golf courses, his hotel, other than the fact i was running for office, i do not care if everyone thinks i am sleeping around with losey's. -- losey -- host: someone writes that conviction would increase the treasure on others to cooperate with robert mueller and they encourage robert mueller to move sooner rather than later to bring the president in to testify, possibly by subpoena. guest: we have been hearing the same thing for two years. something i make fun of in my book. we keep hearing the news is tightening. moved to the big fish but nothing happens. not good for paul manafort or cohen, and a further exposes the having counsel as being

a star chamber as looking at one man and everyone around him. a lot of people around donald trump have survived in but not the way the law is supposed to work in america. cohen has nothing to worry about. that is a silly case. at worst, let's say he is guilty, he will have to pay a fine. 's word, who is fighting for his life, he will say, the president told me he was only doing this because he was running for president. i refer you to the john edwards case where he had very wealthy donors paying millions of dollars to put up his mistress when he was running for president's, his pregnant

mistress. he went to court and everyone ridiculed the prosecution and he was acquitted immediately. are those donors still paying for his mistress? that clearly had to do with the campaign and it will be hard to prove that donald trump would not have cared. i do not necessarily think what these women are alleging, is it just stormy daniels or both of them? host: karen mcdougal. guest: paying both? host: money for karen mcdougal's story. guest: i do not believe either of them but i could be wrong. it doesn't matter. i think one of the things i am not wild about the president for , the only political thing, not building the wall but i am from connecticut and we do not think it is good to brag about your wealth. if you do and hang around with

reality tv stars and playboy bunnies, you will probably get a lot of nuisance lawsuits. --o not think karen mcdougal she said she had an affair for one year but not any evidence? i can date a boy for a week and give you five pieces of evidence. you have no cufflinks? no answering machine message? the other one claims a one-time role in the sack and overlaying all of that, remember that donald trump is a germ of oh -- german phobic -- has made a big mistake. me -- a hero of the college owns case -- college jonesase was -- paula

case, she let people latch onto her and got her to do a playboy spread to bring her down. that is what lanny davis is doing with cohen and now both sides hate him. host: phone lines for republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. a new book as of yesterday --202-748-8001 -- a new book as of yesterday --"resistance is futile." i want to jump to the conclusion, democracy to live we must kill the media. explain the strong language. guest: the previous 200 pages will illustrate why. luckily, i do not have a job so i can read through nexxus

lighting's transcripts -- is --us transcript of trial donald trump. stunning the contradiction from year-to-year and month-to-month but day-to-day, the resistance which has encompassed in -- completely the media. where is donald trump on this? the extent of not caring about factsal defendant rights, and logic, do we really care about russian collusion? hillary clinton's campaign and the dnc, and he is the i paid -- fbi paid russians for information on donald trump. most of the media has always been liberal. ime new york times -- i am the

new york times most loyal reader. made thosewould have first six paragraphs the first for a rough, but essentially i will get facts. you cannot turn to the gold standard of journalism and expect to get facts. we need to destroy the media and rebuild it among more ethical lines which is one thing we may get out of donald trump. host: if you destroy the media, what does that mean for you? media,we still have a just an ethical media. they would tell the truth. it would not be fake news. they would not be sending away citizens in a democracy that needs facts with a false story. host: on the conclusion that -- a delusional,e may be

chemotherapy for the country. you vomit, your hair falls out, your hair falls out, but it kills cancer cells and you live. the presidency may be an -- gosant thing to do -- through but everyone on the new york times editorial board will die. host: have you heard from them? guest: many are my friends and there are one or two good reporters on the new york times but enough to were not. the editorial board, most recent edition, a woman dedicated all of her free time to cheer for the genocide of white men. a long going along -- way to make the media seem fair. host: talking with ann coulter who has a new book out called "resistance is futile." greg in alabama.

from alabama, republican. caller: good morning. the first thing i saw when donald trump was election, watching coverage of several networks. i have a feeling we would get to this point. when i saw don lemon and his say, there is no way to polish this turd. i have never seen that kind of disrespect. anybody on a respectable network would have been fired. a discover that there may be small infraction. there is no russian collusion. we have not proven russian collusion and we are tightening the screws on everybody around him. rating his personal attorneys home -- raiding his personal attorney's home, he may have had sex out of wedlock, i do not

think it was worth $70 million. -- $17 million. guest: that is a great point. having written so many books about so much in politics is there are a lot of flashbacks in my book. on the campaign finance violations, that is in the news now. you may recall many -- and many c-span viewers will recall, we had chinese nationals in the clinton era driving duffel bags of cash to the dnc. the white house holding fundraisers in the white house. that is a big campaign finance violation. eventually, videotapes emerged. saturday night live was tougher on clinton been janet reno -- than janet reno. no independent counsel and the new york times chastised janet

reno for her blunders. give me a break. host: mclean, virginia, independent. caller: i find it breathtaking that you are twisting yourself into a pretzel and denigrating your own integrity by pursuing this -- what about ism. focus on being an american first rather than being a considerate -- conservative. thatre basically saying all of these honorable people who have come out, republican and democrat, who have come out and said, this president has done to the office of the presidency is heinous and you are saying, our entire justice system is incompetent. you are saying, someone who commits bank fraud, and i am a banker.

you are saying someone who commits bank fraud and tax evasion, is complicit with the president to commit fraud. you are basically laughing it all away. i find you to be heinous. guest: a lot of anger. you may want to see someone about that. the idea that it is the country first and not republican and democrat, that is why people like me were so excited about the trout residency. -- donald trump presidency. i do not think it is republicans versus democrats and the donald trump tennessee -- candidacy supported that, i think he exposed things and had people behind him. that --with the theory what about america first?

90% of republicans and 100% of democrats, all they care about who is pulling the strings. primary,ent news, the the primary for governor in wyoming, had the state treasurer i think against a very wealthy causes ir to a lot of think are fantastic and i completely wholeheartedly support. i did interviews in washington yesterday and people were talking about it. i kept saying, everyone i talked to yesterday, they all thought foster freeze was going to win but i thought was and he old? but he spent so much money. washington still things --

things you win money -- elections with money and donald trump spent less money than sanders. host: the state treasurer won. guest: why haven't they learned. ? trump was right, you push ideas and you win. why do politicians still think elections are won with money? they are one with popular ideas. -- won with popular ideas. trump is not a down the line republican. people were mad he started with the mitch mcconnell agenda. big these days. for people paying attention, so massively unfair, every president being dropped -- precedent dropped, we

do not want to hear about the clintons, but it is known as the will of law. like cases are treated alike. this is why lady justice is wearing a blindfold and holding a scale. should not matter whether your last name is trump or clinton, what aboutism is a terrifying attempt to destroy the rule of law. like cases are treated alike. host: what about your relationship with the trump administration? guest: for those of you who follow me on twitter, you know i was his most vocal and immediate supporter. his campaign was magnificent. he has stunning political instincts. book, ise in the last washington style republicans announcing him, saying he is not a real republican, half the

country is saying fantastic, he is not a republican, it is an all new party of the people. of course, i have been disappointed in many ways he has abandoned that. host: president trump tweeting this morning, talking about paul manafort, saying i feel badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family. justice took a 12-year-old tax case and apply tremendous pressure on him, unlike michael cohen he refused to break and make up stories in order to get a deal. a brave man. different than what president trump said about his former lawyer. he said, i suggest you do not retain the services of michael cohen if you're looking for a good lawyer. [laughter] guest: i think donald trump should tweet more. the difference in paul manafort and cohen, one of my favorite

movies is "true romance." host: not seen it. guest: you are such an intellectual, the contrast between elliott collapsing when he is pulled over for a traffic violation and the girlfriend who gets beaten up for 20 minutes in a hotel room. the difference between paul manafort and michael cohen. i will tell you anything as michael cohen. host: democrat, good morning. caller: i have read some things she wrote. i think ann coulter is crazy. she wants us to believe that what we have been watching for the last 18 months. guest: what have you read? caller: a few things you have written. i do not have to give you the name. guest: the same way -- caller: the same what you do not need to give us evidence that clinton has committed any crime. you have not said a thing about the trump foundation.

going to kick it out of new york because he was cheating. you do not say how he took money from the foundation and bought himself a big portrait and stuck it in his building. you are not saying anything about his house -- his wife going away on our money. you have the nerve to talk about what somebody else did. i have seen his rallies. all he talks about is hillary clinton is a cook but he has no evidence to hillary clinton is a crook. guest: i do not know why people cannot make points. do not know why they have to start by saying may have read things by me. just make your point next time. the fact they say trump golf's too much and one charity buying a portrait for another charity for a fund-raising drive, if that is what you got, probably about what all robert mueller has.

which is why he's going into campaign finance and old taxes is. host: ohio, republican. caller: good morning. congratulations on your book. god bless you. i think i'll account has been the catalyst -- i think donald trump has been the catalyst this country has needed for a long time and has awaken the american public. the american public is starting to speak out. they have been silenced for a long time. they do not pay attention to the fake news anymore. they cannot be fooled anymore. donald trump has been the catalyst that has awakened america. with the help of people like yourself. i am very optimistic about our future as of this. the more trash they throw on donald trump, the more red the states will become. it is ironic they cannot hurt this man with her nastiness

because we have awakened in america and care about our country. veterans care about our country, i care about our country. and i am so happy to see this man come to the forefront. god bless you and thank you. guest: thank you. and i am so happy to see thisthat is the point oft chapter. trump has accomplished a lot. it is a serious thing to get people to laugh at the media. some of us have been there for a while. as i say in the book, i play a hitman who goes into a witness protection program, goes to iowa under a false name. , decide i ams running for office under my own name. that is what i feel like the media has done to itself. i always knew what they were but they so lost their mind with trump and cannot control the venom and nonsense and contradictions.

at the same time, trump is possibly bashing them. group of america is learning you cannot trust the media. host: donald trump -- concern from the media about the language he uses. and you -- the new york times publisher put out this statement, i told the president directly about his language, not just devices -- divisive but frequently dangerous and take news is untrue and harmful. concerned about him labeling journalists the enemy of the people and i were him this would make threats to journalists and lead to violence. guest: journalists have to worry about the potential of violence whereas donald trump's supporters have to live with actual violence. campaign, we have seen fascist violence at his

campaigns. egg thrown at them in santa cruz, vicious attacks that shut down a trump rally in chicago. the riots in the streets. none of them prosecutors -- prosecuted. 200 arrested but the judge those of the most important charge. you have repeated violence in berkeley when they invited conservative to speak. we have the night of freedom in new york, exposed by jonathan levine, he took a video of -- not all of them trump supporters, i knew somebody who gays, justin out of freedom. they come out in new york and somebody hit somebody and somebody went into the car great that concrete and looked dead --

concrete and looked dead. the social distortion concert, a trump supporter was beaten by the lead singer, everybody cheered one guy against 600 and the new york times publisher talks about the potential of violence. we are seeing many aspects of fascism rising in this country and it is 100% against trump supporters. host: carolyn, independent line -- maryland, independent line. ander: thank you to c-span ann coulter for being a guest. i would like to remind everyone that this entire of -- investigation was started by a conspiracy to defraud the pfizer court. -- fisa court. we are seeing a communist coup under color of law. thank you.

guest: i do think that the special counsel with this roving mandate to investigate, see if you can find anything, anyone around trump. this is soviet justice. have a commission. it was started because james comey was out there while he insinuating the president was under investigation. as a quote in the book, when james comey was fired, all of the news media, we get echoes of watergate all the time with republicans but especially trump . iswas all about, trump under investigation and he fires the man investigating him. months later, james comey finally admitted trump was not under investigation and the entire basis for the special counsel, the president is under investigation, no, not only was

he not under investigation, when we found out there were spies on me trump campaign, the fbi said we were not spying on you, we were protecting you. now we have it on the authority of investigators, known only trump and his campaign were not under investigation. the standard of the investigation is, see if you can find something. i like george soros investigated. host: 25 minutes left with ann coulter. her book, "resistance is futile." taking your calls and comments. philip and stillwell, oklahoma, democrat. washingtonrybody in is writing a book and making money off of this thing. it is kind of funny. back and letan go

people vote for the president with the electoral college. i think it is wrong. i say that because, if they have went by the people's vote, we would not have this idiot, and i do say idiot come in the white house. he should have never gotten their. he should have been qingdao -- kicked out before he got the chance to run. this is despicable, sorry, i hate it every day. i am not saying hillary would have been better but how can you get worse? if you do not see rallies, jumping in the street, and happiness, wait until he gets impeached, it is coming. guest: you remind me of one of my favorite actual jokes for the joked,ra, nor mcdonald muchoters hated hillary so

they voted for someone they hated even more. host: everyone is writing a book talking about your book and your work. on before yougur and he talked about your work. i want you to respond to what he said about you. here is cenk uygur. guest: the right-wing billionaires pay -- a lot of the people you see on tv, gobs of money to do propaganda, including ann coulter. she gets paid by right-wingers to spread their hatred and their fear. profit whenit and a they get tax cuts and deregulation. guest: i wish. i could use that money. no one has ever paid me except the people who buy my book and thank you to my readers. i have said this since the clinton era. -- i have heard this since the

clinton era. i do not know why it is comforting for liberals to think this. they do not want me writing books. i picked that up but that is what i do for a living. i think most of the books, my first book, high crimes and in 1998, my, publisher called me and said, it was a bestseller, no, the second one, slander, say congratulations, not only are you on the bestseller list but you are the only person who wrote on the bestseller list. the new york times has different list, hardcover, paperback, fiction, nonfiction, i wanted was for authors who wrote their own book. it would be a different list because mostly it is celebrities pieces of crap. why can't they just sell doormats and that rubs or mugs.

i research and write my books. i am a great writer and a killer researcher. host: in your acknowledgment section, you say it my friends cannot be mentioned in an ann coulter book. why? guest: they work in industries they would never work again. [laughter] host: akron ohio, independent caller: thank you for c-span. i did not vote for trump. i had to hold my nose to vote for hillary. i like trump more. i used to go to his casinos every summer and play blackjack. i won more than i lost. i do not think he is qualified for a job. i am two miles from lebron james but he is not, qualified for mayor of akron. office, makes no

different to me, will be replaced by mike pence and not hillary clinton. i think he is like ross perot, i admire him but he is a showman. he is not qualified for the job. i like him. i would not vote for lebron james for mayor of akron as much as i like ron james. -- lebron james. guest: i think trump is exactly what we need right now. i think washington has gotten fat and happy and forgot about the people who voted for them. pushing a lot of ideas that used to be things democrats claimed to agree with, that used to care about the working class. the manufacturing base. for wall to be not street. trump turns that upside down, he

took no money from wall street. it was like 90% of the money was for hillary. the other 10% was not for trump but a third-party candidate. some of us who supported trump the candidate were disappointed when he turned the keys of the kingdom to goldman sachs. but that is why i say, my book is for you because maybe we will not get the same things he ran on. trade, immigration, no more wars the most important ones, instead he pushed mitch mcconnell's agenda. regulations was great and got the economy going and tax cuts were more a second term kind of thing. we wanted the wall first. to bust of the system, to expose the media for what it is, if that is all we get out of this guy, yes, i would vote for lebron james, al sharpton, it

just to bust up the system because it is so corrupt. trump has exposed the swamp, beautiful. a concept none of us had before. exposing the media, exposing the swamp. and there is still time, mr. president, you can still build the wall and come through on immigration promises. in my acknowledgments, why can't they be named? friends, very brave among the jobs in hollywood, i cannot blame anyone in that down, but people -- i am a lawyer so a lot of my friends are lawyers and they come up for judgeships. i will check with my friends in advance, one of my friends is mcgill estrada, he was going to be -- mcgillis trotta, he was -- estrada, one of the best

lawyers i know, would rocket to the supreme court, by fulton you cannot be thanked. -- i told him you cannot be thanked probably. brave is mye, friends come first. of course you can thank me. when he was nominated after i , chuck schumer and announced him for being thanked and one of my books. host: terry in north carolina, republican. caller: good morning. glad to see somebody on here who thinks like i do. clinton could look in the mirror and the reflection would have been jeb bush. i am so sick of washington. i have tried to get c-span to tell us where our money goes.

we should know to the exact pending how they spend our money -- howy how they should they spend their money. guest: i want their salaries. something out of the russian nonsense is to see something and thismuch lisa page and that person is being paid. normally the deal with a government job is it is fun, not that much work, you cannot be fired. you get great health care and the pension, who gets pensions anymore? but the trade-off is your salary is not that high. a higher salary in the private sector but you can be fired and you have to pay for your health care and your pension you have to pay for your now government workers get all that and make more than people in the private sector.

how about a cut of federal salaries. host: jeff, democrat, florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to point out two bits of hypocrisy by ann coulter . would you please put up the statement that trump made today about manafort? i would like her to explain to me what he means when he says, manafort did not break. break what? did not break by telling the truth? guest: by making stuff up, obviously. caller: if you have making stuff up, that is easily proven. you can do that. that is what a court of law is for. you talk about this russian not trumpwhether or himself went to meet and do a collusion thing is a prevalent.

what is reveling -- you not trup reveling. what is reveling, he put it -- he putnt -- prevalent, his son, five republican presidents, he has been doing this for years. guest: i never got the apart received on that call. -- hypocrisy on that call. the question was -- manafort? host: the breaking and the president saying that i feel badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family, they applied tremendous pressure on him and unlike michael cohen he refused to break. guest: right. can it be proved? said ishael cohen almost by definition what he was required to say because he is

like elliott and "true romance." "whatever you want me to say." halfng obama paid nearly $1 million in fines on campaign-finance violations. host: the president's latest tweet, michael cohen pled guilty to two counts of finance violations, president obama had a finance violation that was easily settled. guest: right. seeings or -- are is in -- the most important part about the campaign-finance violations is proving the intent to affect the campaign. digging for some sort of crime on people who have not done anything. for example, in many cases like , the but in the news

dinesh this is a case, you reimburse people for a campaign, obvious, you are not randomly writing a check for $2010. would trumpuld -- have paid to give an affair quiet from his wife, people who go to his clubs and resorts. the prosecutor would have to prove, more obvious in the john edwards case, because they are ,ot paying for his mistress supporting for her flying around , living large with democratic very wealthy people. millionaires. are they still paying for her? that is clearly connected to a campaign. the prosecutor was laughed at and he was acquitted. you have to prove the only reason donald trump did this -- about campaign financing violations coming ignorance of

the law is a defense in this case. host: charleston, independent. late.: i tuned in if my comments have been covered, i apologize, the media does need overhauling. bias works inia the favor of the candidate that the outlet opposes and troops rally around the person. thomas jefferson have a lot to say about a free press. in his day, media coverage was not instantaneous and he had a lot to say about editing. there is no editing today, maybe and newspapers, but the media, everything is instant, radio, tv, social media. commentary is there without editing. that is a big problem and why we need overhaul. something about campaign contributions. i am an independent.

i think that needs overhauling. it takes way too much money to mount a successful campaign. that is why you only see the media money control candidates on tv on the national stage during debates which of the republicans and democrats. bernie sanders had a good 2016ign this last cycle in and i am not a bernie sanders independent. i am a member of the constitution party. darrell castle could not get money. thanks to seize that we get to see them but they never get on the national stage. -- thanks to c-span we get to see them but we never see them on the national stage. they need so much money and the taste of victory is so sweet that the supporters of the candidate will yield to temptation and take excessive contributions. guest: i am pushing resistance is futile, a fun book, you have we trustnd -- in trump

, you are completely wrong. that money buys elections. campaign consultants have persuaded politicians that they do need money. donald