league of conservation voters gene karpinski on campaign 2018, and that it says pollster clifford young discusses brett kavanaugh. that actor, director, producer dean cain talks about being a transporter in hollywood. -- trump supporter in hollywood. good morning. it is saturday, september 22. we are juggling two major news stories in washington one, negotiations over a possible new hearing with judge kavanaugh and his accuser, christine blasey ford. there has been forward announced. and what is being called a bombshell report by the new york times. they write deputy attorney general rod rosenstein suggested secretly recording president trump and discussed invoking the 25th amendment to remove him from office. rosenstein denies the story, but the new york times stands by.

we invite your comments on either or both of these stories this morning. democrats, your number (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. looking for your reaction to the kavanaugh and rosenstein stories in today's papers. if not by phone, you can weigh in by social media. at can post a comment facebook.com/cspan. we are going to start off this morning by three tweets sent by senator chuck grassley late last night after another day of back-and-forth with the attorney for dr. ford. here is what senator grassley had to say. five times, we have granted extensions to dr. ford to decide if she wants to proceed with her desire stated one week ago that she wants to present testimony to the senate.

if you changed your mind, say so so we can move on. i granted another extension to dr. ford to testify to the senate. she should decide so we can move on. i want to hear her. i hope you understand, it is not my normal approach to be indecisive. when last week last week, with all the extensions we give dr. ford to decide if she still wants to testify, i feel like i am playing second trombone in the judiciary orchestra, and shermer is the conductor. schumer, thechuck minority leader. we will get perspective on the kavanaugh story from alex bolton. the headline to yorkie says, the gop had and cap not accuser are struggling to reach a deal. -- and kavanaugh accuser are struggling to reach a deal. rd's legal team has asked for a next her day to

figure out whether she can meet the republicans halfway and come to capitol hill to testify wednesday. senator chuck grassley has agreed to some of her demands, which would be to limit television coverage in the room, provide adequate security. something she has not agreed to is -- he has not agreed to is subpoena outside witnesses, mark judge, who allegedly witnessed this attempted sexual assault 30 years ago. they went back and forth over when the testimony should happen, what the conditions should be, and now the republicans have met half her demands, but rejected half of the others. the ball is in christine blasey ford's court. we should here today whether the conditions are acceptable. host: do you get the sense that they will ultimately reach an agreement for open testimony or

something else happened? guest: it is hard to predict. she said she was willing to testify. you would think that whether it is thursday or wednesday is something that could be handled pretty easily. what difference is a day? that is what senator dianne feinstein, ranking democrat on the committee, she asked republicans to show some heart. she feels they are bullying her. feinstein and other democrats on the committee sent a letter to grassley yesterday and accused him of treating forward worse ford worse than they treated anita hill 20 years ago. comparisons have been drawn to that confirmation of

clarence thomas. host: what is the mood going back and forth? guest: they are involved in it. the impact of the back-and-forth is it has been highly partisan and divisive. a lot of fighting over, yes, the charges are serious. we have had this huge process battle over what i would call niggling details. whether she testifies wednesday or thursday, i don't see why it has become such a pitch battle -- pitched battle. the democrats have said you have to invite outside witnesses in.republicans are feeling exasperated because these charges are something dianne feinstein inut in july -- knew about july but did not bring forward.

fordtein said that requested they become confidential. she wanted to respect that. i'm not sure you can really fault feinstein for her action. democrats have pulled out all the stops to slow this nominee down. chuck schumer said he would give it everything he's got to stop this nomination. it is understandable why the republicans are skeptical of these motives and think the whole thing is fabricated. until the committee investigates, and we hear from blasey ford, it is hard to know what to make of it, and perhaps these allegations will never be fully corroborated or denied. host: let's inject this headline into the story. the washington post, trump credits the credibility of kavanaugh's accuser.

what does this mean if anything to the debate going on? guest: some people were speculating yesterday that by trump inserting himself, he would perhaps push some of the swing republican moderates to be more sympathetic to blasey ford, susan collins of maine, jeff flake, and lisa murkowski. testimonynd ford's credible, they could vote against kavanaugh. bothns and flake criticized trump's comments. is that going to be enough for them to vote against the supreme court nominee? this is probably going to be the most significant vote they cast this year. it makes it more of a political fight than a dispassionate

investigation into what happened 36 years ago. host: we are juggling two stories as you are. one is the brett kavanaugh story. the other is the rod rosenstein story. rod rosenstein raises idea of recording president trump, talk of the 25th amendment being invoked. he denies it. the times stands by its reporting. any reaction from the help? -- hill? guest: the reaction from the ll has been pretty muted. folks are much more focused on the kavanaugh allegations, which to them are much more real. story ory, alleged allegation in the times that rosenstein was discussing invoking the 25th amendment, this is an echo of the anonymous op-ed in the new york times were

a senior trumpet official -- trump official said there were whispers of invoking the 25th amendment. these are just claims that cannot be verified independently, at least without more investigation or someone else coming forward. lawmakers are not going anywhere near this because it is something they cannot verify. they are having a hard enough time verifying the allegations of christine blasey ford, who is on the record and public about what happened 36 years ago. host: alex bolton, thank you. guest: thank you for having me. the: first caller, kavanaugh story and rod rosenstein story. first on the democrats line, helen from colorado. caller: good morning.

i want to say one thing before i voice my opinion about what is going on with kavanaugh. in 1979emember back when we had the night stalker? they had a lead on that. who was the mayor at that time? diane feinstein. they did not want it to be out in public. what did she do? she goes out. she holds a news conference saying the ballistics match the gun. justolice officer said she the investigation. this is what kind of person she is. then she keeps this letter. this woman cannot be believed,

trusted, and someone needs to investigate diane feinstein for her having a spy being her driver. host: let's hear from larry on the republican line from texas. good morning. caller: good morning. i think they need to go ahead and have an up-and-down vote on this man. the democrats have had this letter since june or july. --n the woman will wrote the letter to dianne feinstein, all her expectations of privacy when on the door. they have given her enough time -- went out the door. they have given her enough time to testify. go about your business. host: new york times story on rod rosenstein moved online yesterday. here is the printed version this morning. ofenstein rose the idea

recording donald trump. to secretly record president trump to expose the chaos consuming the administration and invoke the 25th amendment to remove president trump from office. rosenstein says the near times story is inaccurate and factually incorrect. he said, i will not further comment on a story from anonymous sources that are obviously biased against the administration. that is from rod rosenstein. the new york times last night stood by their story. there was some talk about whether mr. rosenstein was actually joking when he made some of the comments about reporting the president. the times insists it was not a joke. let's go to maryland, republican collar. caller: good morning.

look at the last week or so. you start out with the fake protesters from george soros. then we moved to cory booker, who became spartacus, who actually has admitted sexual assault in high school. and then we went to dianne feinstein's late report about what this gentleman supposedly did when he was 17. i am just waiting for someone to come along and say he bullied somebody in kindergarten. it is totally ridiculous. host: thank you for calling. chris is on the line from new york, democrat. what would you like to talk about? caller: good morning. i have one thing to say to all americans. regardless of how you feel about dr. ford or kavanaugh, what is the difference between her testifying on thursday like she wants to work wednesday like the

republican senators?want to force her to do what difference does one day make except it is another case of their way or the highway? this is a very important issue. this guy is going to be on the supreme court for life. really? really? we cannot wait another 24 hours to let this woman get her act together and the fact that her life is being threatened and her family is being overturned. we cannot give this woman one more day. that says a lot about us as people. host: that was stephen. toitico has a small snippet give us some detail on the back and forth in all this. as that last caller mentioned, what is the difference in one day? the gop has been told that dr. ford does not want to fly from her home in california, which might mean she needs to drive across the country. she has reportedly told friends that she is uncomfortable in

confined spaces, indicating a physical difficulty in making the trip by plane. perhaps that is part of the reason between wednesday and thursday and not monday. here is audrey on the line from georgia. democrat. go ahead. caller: you know, i believe this dr. ford needs to have her day in court. they come out with 10% of kavanaugh's record. they refuse to give all of his record to the democrats to find out what is in it. what is in his record that they are hiding? there may be something in that record that will expose this to begin with. his friend, mr. judge, wrote a book. subpoena judge and his book. in that book, he talks about the wild parties they attended when

he was drunk, they were drunk in school. host: what does that mean to you? caller: women have been going through these sorts of things forever. i look at the divorces, all the different divorces. it is because there is something going on inside that they have not dealt with. i think with dr. ford, this is what happened. she was having trouble in her marriage because of what was going on, and her husband decided to go to couples counseling, and all this came out. women have these things that just fester inside. it needs to be told. bettereard life will get once it comes out. host: more of your calls in a moment. here's the headline from the post, values voter post, values voter summit, which we have been

covering live. social conservatives rally behind kavanaugh, gather friday to plot midterm elections, to allegations against brett kavanaugh on his march to nomination. here is mitch mcconnell at the event yesterday. [video clip] >> you are all following the current supreme court fight. thewill watch it unfold in course. of the next week -- the course of the next week. president trump has nominated a stunning individual. [applause] you have watched the fight. you watched the tactics. here's what i want to know. future, judgear kavanaugh will be on the united states supreme court. applause]d

my friends, keep the faith. don't get rattled by all of this. we are going to plow right through it and do our job. the: senator mcconnell at value voter summit. later this morning, we will have live coverage. underl be there for just two hours at the values voter summit. the two speakers this morning will be vice president mike pence. we are asking you this morning to weigh in on two stories's

morning. one of them is from the new york times, which cannot yesterday. rosenstein raised idea of recording talks with trump. he floated the idea to remove the president using between fifth amendment. this headline, grassley extends the deadline once again for kavanaugh accuser to decide on testifying. they went back and forth several times yesterday. there was a 10:00 a.m. deadline floated to hear back from dr. ford. it moved through the day and became 10:00 p.m. senator grassley extended it once again according to the hill. new jersey, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm going to talk about dr. ford. it is a shame what happened to her and what is happening to her right now. arelways, the dems exploited her as they exploited

the kids in the apartment shooting, as they are exploiting the children that are being separated, as when obama separated them. back then?re outrage obama deported more illegals than anyone. but trump races -- is a racist. this is so vauge. gue. good day. host: let's hear from june, independent caller. what's on your mind? caller: first i want to say, this is not about obama. please, let's get beyond obama. as far as kavanaugh, the president himself acknowledged that kavanaugh is accused of theg, in the accusers that

president has said they are lying. they did not come forward right away. we agree. we just have to hope that people's minds are open enough and strong enough to get in touch with their legislators, their senators who are on this panel. they need to open their minds to the reality of what is really going on. away thist say right happened to me. surprisingly, after all this time, the same thing with cosby and the others. let's kill them. with kavanaugh, let's put him on the supreme court. there is something very wrong happening here in america. i don't know whether there is some kind of spell from the president or something.

it is very weird. thank you. host: june calling from wisconsin. from twitter, why don't they just nominate a woman in place of him? problem solved. story, newnstein york times also had the anonymous source op-ed that mentioned the 25th amendment. if i were the president, i would not react too quickly to this story. this seems like a setup to cause trump problems for the midterm. the move.behind rosenstein mayt not have a job for longer. they are writing about a speech in springfield, missouri, last night that trump gave. here is what the president had to say. [video clip] >> we have a true swap in

washington -- swamp in washington. just look at what is now being exposed in our department of justice and the fbi. look at what is going on. i want to tell you, we have great people in the department of justice. we have great people. these are people, i really oll, ie, you take a p have to be at 95%. we have some really bad ones. you look at the fbi, they are all gone. they are all gone. they are all gone. [cheers] stench,e is a lingering and we are going to get rid of that, too. host: this story, amazing, two-mile long line for that rally in springfield.

that is according to police and a local reporter there. att was the cap this missouri state university for the republican running against claire mccaskill in that race. paul, wisconsin, democrat. thank you for waiting. caller: thank you. good morning. i just think since that christine ford took the lie test, why doesn't judge kavanaugh volunteer intake a lie detector test -- and take a lie detector test? if he did and passed, i think tot would put this story

rest. very few people to rest. very few people can cheat a lie detector. i think that would put this story to rest. host: short of that, where do you think this is headed? caller: i think it is just he said-she said. i don't think it is going anywhere. that is why he should take a lie detector test. sure thates, i'm would be the end of the story. host: thank you for calling. mark from nebraska, republican caller. caller: i have been hearing on the news that the democrats are dividing this process until thursday instead of friday like it was supposed to be this week because they want to make sure that kavanaugh doesn't make it into office, so they are delaying this witness until take advantage of

the situation, and that is what i have got to say. host: lily from fort lauderdale. democrats line. on -- am i on? host: you are. go ahead. caller: i believe ms. ford. i think judge kavanaugh should take a test and prove that he did not do anything. i have been listening to some of the republican women talking about this woman, and i think it is awful. why didn't she say anything? why didn't she do anything? old. i am 73 years this happened to me when i was about 11 years old. i did not tell anyone for 60

years. i told my sister, and i told my husband. it is embarrassing. i thought i did something wrong. he was a relative of mine. i just did not know what to do. woman so bad for this because i can picture myself all over again with this. it is awful. i think those women are awful that are talking about her. i think the president is awful. give that woman a chance to explain herself. it takes time. i am 73. i am 73 years old. i am still carrying these scars. host: don't need to cut in. we appreciate you sharing your situation. are you still with us? caller: yes. today,here is an op-ed it says a cannot hearing without

facts would be a sham. he is making the point that we should not just believe her or him, that there should be some kind of investigation, and was suggesting the committee should have been working on this all along, but looking for facts before a hearing. caller: yes, i think it should be an investigation. what is the rush? it takes time to sort these things out when it happens to you. they don't understand what a woman goes through. floridaat was lily from on the democrats line. thank you again. ralph, new york, democratic caller. caller: good morning. i am a uaw worker from upstate new york. when it comes to judge kavanaugh in the workplace, there was a 1985 decision in the district court, a slaughterhouse in new

york versus the national labor relations board, and the workers foodorganizing with united theers association, and national labor relations act has a broad definition of employee. kavanaugh did not use that definition under the controlling statute. because outside of it and uses a definition of employee under immigration law to deny these workers the right to vote in union elections. it comes down to it that he will always be a corporate business guy, and he will not give a fair shake to the little guy or little gal. that is why i oppose his nomination. host: any reaction to the rod rosenstein story? caller: the issue comes down to his votes, how he is going to vote. host: let's go to california, republican line, robert. caller: what i am thinking about

is if the democrats are so concerned about women abuse, how come they are not dealing with keith ellison in minnesota? his sounded pretty factual, and it is more recent. nobody talks about it. it is hardly on the news. had 75 to 100 women said he was impeccable, never disrespectful. is pattern for over 35 years impeccable around ladies and helping coach these young children. not one issue. all of a sudden a liberal gal out of the bay area that has her own agenda about abortion happens to go after this guy like a torpedo. i think it is disgusting. it is past statute of limitations. it is another anita hill dog and pony show. indiana, gohaute,

ahead. theare in -- on republican line. caller: i have been through a lot of presidents. i went through gerald mccarthy. i watched in ruin people's lives. 1965, in birmingham, the klan beat up protesters. i watched nixon lied to us on tv over and over. one thing i have to say about trump, when you have a person day lies the same lie after day, it is a form of stop syndrome -- political stockholm syndrome. this is a democracy. it is not a dictatorship. you have to listen to people. that is my issue with trump.

he is an autograph. look who he admires. he admires putin. unbelievable. 30%, we are organizing in indiana. we are going to turn it. the democrats and independents, we realize we have a president who is not smart enough. he doesn't read. you would think you would want to read these briefings. is that how lazy he is? like kuies, to me, look klux klan rallies. host: why do you say that? caller: i see a lot of hate. when he incites the people to go after the press. i have seen the same white racist hate in birmingham in the the 1960's. i saw the same hate in joe mccarthy eyes.

you still see the same white racist hate. trump uses his power to go after the press. we need the press. when the story broke on that in the 1970's, if it wasn't for the press, we would not know anything. host: thank you for calling. on twitter, republicans trying to hurry kavanaugh nomination because they know they are going to get slaughtered in the november election. new york times posting this morning that after a tense night of legal grantsmanship, chairman and senate judiciary, mr. until 2:30 p.m. today. the deadline is sliding until 2:30 today. we will look for another milestone in this particular story. nat from baltimore.

good morning. republican. caller: good morning. thank you to c-span. i am glad i got through. i am a scientist. i am 91 years old. hooey.ell hats from kavanaugh hasdge been reviewed for positions for rifferent times -- fou different times. somehow this woman had no memory of anything to come forward then. when she finally comes forward, she doesn't give it to the chairman of the judicial committee, who would be able to adjudicate it correctly. she gives it to senator feinstein, who is very partisan. thatives it to everybody could possibly delay the ,ppointment of judge kavanaugh who has an impeccable record.

i already heard that one person who was in her class has come forward and said she has no memory of this. it is so obviously a delay tactic. feinstein could have brought it up when she interviewed him. every single fact leads to one point. this is a delaying tactic where they pray they can take over the senate on election day. i don't think that is possible. great president trump fan, but he has been doing everything correctly and just what he promised to do during the election. host: continuing to take your calls this saturday morning on the brett kavanaugh story, the ongoing negotiations over a potential hearing next week and the ongoing rod rosenstein story.

the washington post reporting on it, memos that rosenstein wanted to record the president and invoke the 25th amendment. mr. rosenstein denies it. on twitter, now that rosenstein wanted to remove president trump based on the fake new york times, will donald trump attacked him? suggested that maybe he is firing mr. rosenstein. here is what sean hannity had to say. [video clip] >> corrupt since the beginning. before the election, after the election. they wanted to take down donald trump. it is time for the attorney general to do his job. mr. sessions, this is your department of justice. circumstances, for the president tonight, under zero circumstances should the

president fire anybody. these actors tonight, and i have multiple sources confirming this, they are hoping and praying that the president does just that. they are hoping that he gets mad, gets sick and tired of it, and that they can turn this politically into their equivalent of a friday night massacre. the president needs to know that it is a set up. regardless of whether he steps in or not, and i argue the should not, the deep state is crumbling from within at this hour. they are turning against each other. host: sean hannity last night. chuck schumer weighs in on this. he tweeted yesterday, the times report must not be used as a pretext for firing deputy attorney general rosenstein in order to install the official that will allow the president to interfere in the special counsel investigation. we have anna on the line from texas.

, democrat. caller: good morning. first of all, judge kavanaugh is the eddie haskell of leave it to beaver. he did this. he knows it. he had his friend, if they were innocent, they would take a lie detector test. the 91-year-old who talked about why she didn't tell, the girl was 15. i want to say girl. she is a young lady. she is not a gall. . she is 15 years old. who is she going to tell? i have a young lady in my department who had issues. she finally told me her uncle had been molesting her. women, especially white women, they stand up and stand behind all of this crop all the time. starr, baylor university, the heels.clinto to

he had young men, their lives through, some of them throwing in jail because they said they were doing the same thing to her. if it happens that way, you do it. athletes, they do it. bill cosby. what do they all have in common? they are black. the majority of them. they get sent to prison. kavanaugh get sent to the supreme court to send other people of caller to prison. -- color to prison. when you talk about a woman's body, they don't know. grassley, you don't hand him anything. he is 85 years old. i am 70 years old. hill, merciful on anita putting clarence thomas, another creditor. -- predator. we know he did it. i don't mean to sound so negative. i am sick and tired of it.

i have nine granddaughters, and five of them are in college. to think that someone would do the same thing to them, i would be down there with a baseball bat. host: david is calling from west virginia, independent caller. c they keep -- fller: they keep delaying ms. ord's testimony. the democrats are worried about her security and scared about flying. this is the 21st century. why don't they have her testify by skype or videoconference? you don't have to worry about -- government of reporters gauntlet of reporters. offer her monday or wednesday. it is the same thing, under oath. you do away with all that circus

. that would stop this delay. she would get the option to testify. host: one of the sticking points was who gets to ask questions on the republican side, making the point that they are all male on the committee. allowing thed female staffers to do some of the questioning. what do you think of that? caller: that would be the appropriate way to do that. that would be fair to ms. ford and judge kavanaugh. that would be fair for both. the senators, they are going to boat onthere and show both sides. that will be another circus like the first day of the hearings. we don't want to see that. just have some independent person to that. -- do that. skype, that's the solution. piecehere is an editorial

of the editorial in the new york times. -- lead editorial in the new york times. republicans try so hard to be subtle, seem respectful of christine blasey ford, even as they seek to undermine her. they wanted us to know if only she testified on her terms. they want americans to think they have a bald in the 27 years since anita hill accused clarence thomas of sexual misconduct. they write, the needle that a republicans have been trying to thread is exceedingly fine, and they have done a rotten job of it. tweet --hy mr. trump's if the president sees that this woman is not to be believed, that is that. just will republican lawmakers

seem to think but won't say. linda from new jersey on the republican line. caller: good morning. i think everybody needs to calm down. they are already making tousations without talking the man. they already have him guilty. that is dangerous. i have stuff happen to me years ago. that is something you never forget. it becomes dangerous. that have people fired from their job because they were going out with a married man, and he rejected her, and she turned around and lied about him. he lost his job and everything. both parties need to be interviewed. not just one. i have never heard of such a thing. you have to be careful to judge people without hearing them.

she was asked to go behind closed doors and everything. that is something you never forget. i have stuff happen to me. -- had stuff happen to me. you might not say anything to anybody, but you have to be very careful because it is going to come to a time where anybody can be innocent. can't just bring up whether you are a democrat or republican or black or white. that is another dangerous thing. you have to look at the history of everything. otherwise, we are not ever going to have a hearing of any k ind. host: thank you. let's stay in new jersey, paul on the democrats line. caller: hello. how are you doing? host:.

hello. caller: it would be interesting to find out if kavanaugh has ever made a ruling as a judge in regards to a minor being referred to criminal court, adult criminal court. it would be interesting to find that out. foundd, but i have not anything. in regard to the capital situation -- kavanaugh situation, they are back at it again. you have enough decent american corporate association making aggressive groping acceptable once again. host: we have newsmakers tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. eastern time and 6:00 p.m. our guest is charlie kelly, director of the house majority pac. impact brettt the kavanaugh is having on house races. >> it has the potential to. information is disturbing.

it is disappointing what we have seen out of this effort so far. informationms. ford deserves t. she has come forward. i don't know that is something she originally intended to do. it seems the republican leadership in the senate, mcconnell and grassley, are trying to steamroll this nomination through, or not doing their due diligence to listen to these accusations and take them seriously. the last report i heard is they are looking at monday they want to have potential testimony come forward. what this really deserves is an investigation. let's hear from both sides. this is a serious issue. if we don't, the challenge for republicans is this reinforces the challenges they face with women, and certainly women in battleground districts. it reinforces the struggle that trump had with women in many districts.

if there is not an investigation, and we are not ford, theear from ms. challenge is this becomes a tricky issue heading into election day. there are house candidates in these battleground states. >> is it a good idea for a democratic candidate to proactively bring this issue up on the campaign trail? >> i think you are seeing conversation about it in contrast. republican incumbents should be questioned, where do you stand on this issue? this deserves a deliberative conversation. if she has made herself later next week, and they are saying we need to do this monday, and there is no question, that does not spell right heading into election. it does not feel right. thevoters to feel where republican party is the city -vis women,- vis-a

there needs to be a conversation. host: charlie kelly for the majority pac. he runs that organization. later this morning, at about a.m., we will go back to the values voter summit put on by the family research council, speaker vice president mike pence. republican senator bob corker of tennessee and niki tsongas of massachusetts will talk to us about their expenses at 8:00. at 9:00 p.m., we will show you a few hours of coverage from the 1991 clarence thomas and anita hill hearing. this is the confirmation hearing , which many people are talking about in relation to the kavanaugh ford story. at at 9:05 eastern time.

joanne is calling from california, independent. what is the name of your town? caller: slew house. host: go ahead. thank you for calling big caller: -- calling. caller: i had something else to say, but you said you are going to show that later today. host: tonight. 9:00. caller: that was so devastating. i was glued to the tv watching it. i cannot even imagine in 2018 they can have that kind of hearing, and anita hill can give that testimony come and clarence thomas would be on the supreme court. i noticed a lot of people calling in and bringing up keith ellison, trying to make this comparison. if the democrats are so concerned, why don't they do something about keith ellison?

i want to remind people that every single registered voter in minnesota is going to have an opportunity to voice their opinion about keith ellison. we are not going to have that about the supreme court. everybody in minnesota will get to have a say on keith ellison. it is not the same at all. is last point is it absolutely appalling that chairman grassley has to bring in a staff person to question dr. ford is absolutely because of the optics of the 85-year-old white man questioning her, grilling her. orrin hatch and grassley with their absolutely untoward comments and insensitivity, so they have to bring in a woman to do that. i think that is ridiculous. they are the senators. this is a senate judiciary committee.

that's who should be doing the business, not a staffer. host: joanna calling. we have 10 minutes left. here is a recent fox news headline on keith ellison. fabricated accuser domestic abuse story. in the wall street journal, they have their weekend interview. this time it is chuck grassley, in the eye of the kavanaugh storm. the author pointed out that they piece on wednesday, before the latest rounds on capital. why is mr. grassley surprise that the president has been so temperate? a lot of times he is not. friday, if the attack on dr. says, a as bad as she report would have been filed

immediately by her or her parents. mr. grassley recognizes times have changed. there is more appreciation of the charges of sexual misconduct and treatment of women and not giving women enough attention to what happened to them. is that good for the country? absolutely. grassley in the wall street journal today. from california. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: i was born and raised in las vegas, nevada. is legal.ostitution nevada is a woman's state. a woman can have a job standing on her two feet or laying on her back. it is hard for me to relate to what these women are talking about.

school, allh through our school years, we were raised that you don't wear red because that is what the working girls wore. you don't walk on the street by yourself. we all walked to school together. we all came together. then i was working in a casino. one of the bosses was launching his way of the girls. whether they did or didn't, he fired them. finally it was his turn to come to me, and they would withhold pay. naturally, he fired me. i went to the labor board. i put in a sexual harassment i put in a sexual harassment claim. that was in 1977. you're going to tell me there is no labor board in america today? when i got there, they gave me four times the amount of my two fineday, and then they

him. the fine they gave him, they gave it to me. i don't understand where people are coming from. there are laws in this country. this woman says she had no one to talk to. i was in girl scouts. i was in rainbow girls at the oak club. i worked in the cafeteria. i worked in the office at school. we had a principal, a police officer, the original blues brothers. he dressed just like john belushi. he was very approachable. i feel sorry for these women that say they don't have a friend to talk to pick what -- to talk to. what on earth is wrong with them? cosby was with adult women.

cosby was with adult women. i did not hear the trial. to go to jail for lying, but a child molester gets out in two years. it is ridiculous. host: we want to get a couple of more calls before we get to the end of the hour. this debate over brett kavanaugh and christine blasey ford made its way to the texas senate debate last thing. ,his is the incumbent ted cruz republican, versus congressman beto o'rourke, the democratic challenger. this last a couple of minutes. [video clip] ford comes forward next week and testifies. i have publicly called for her to be given an opportunity to testify. the allegations she raised are serious. they deserve to be treated with respect. i hope she has a full opportunity to tell her story in a way that is respectful. i also believe judge kavanaugh deserves an opportunity to defend himself and to let the american people listen and come to an assessment of what

happened. we don't know right now. we need to give them a full hearing. more broadly, this issue of whether it is judge kavanaugh, neil gorsuch, or other supreme court nominees reflects one of the many massive provides on policy and substance between the congressman o'rourke. 'rourke doeso not want judge kavanaugh confirmed. he agrees with hillary clinton. he wants liberal judicial activists on the court who will impose their policies you. dedicated virtually my entire life to protecting the constitution. one of the major issues in american people have before us do what version of the court you want. i believe americans want constitutionalists on the court who will defend religious liberty, one of the fundamental liberties that has been under a

ssault. the justices that my opponent would insist on our justices that would undermine and write the second amendment out of the constitution. those views are not consistent with the majority of texans. >> thank you. that is your time. >> the senator has a troubling history with the kind of nominees he has supported. someone who believes in conversion therapy, he describes transgender children as part of statements plan. -- satan's plan. people who could not say whether the landmark brown v. board of education was correctly decided. allegations should be investigated by the fbi. there is precedent for that. the senator is right in this regard. judge kavanaugh does not meet

the bar for texas to serve on the state [no audio] -- stacy paper. judge kavanaugh has a troubling history of voting rights. judge kavanaugh has a troubling history in agreeing that roe v. wade is the decided law of the land. in the state where you can be fired for being gay, his support for civil rights is in question. we need a supreme court justice who will decide in favor of people under the constitution, and we do not have that judge. host: one of the close races in the senate this year. you can watch that texas senate debate at our website, c-span.org. it is right there up top. we have a minute or two left. larry from tennessee. thank you for waiting.

caller: thank you for getting me on. i feel sad that only have a minute to give after you put this debate in front of the topics that you decided to have. host: go ahead. that it ispoints are surprised at am grassley. i have watched him over the years. man that he was a wanted to keep partisanship out of the supreme court. that is their charge. evident that the republicans have decided that partisanship is ok with the supreme court. a blind man can see, after fromng president obama getting anomaly in front -- a

nominee in front of the senate to make a decision, stopping his party, stopping a nomination from going it is based day for america -- it is a sad day for america. haverassley's decision to his own investigators, to come and investigate dr. ford is a rain capacitya's that he is selected -- brain capacity, that his selected individual will do a better job than the fbi. to investigate what went on, and

the third way is, the senate says no. no other other people witnesses, witnesses, is this for the truth? is this for the truth? along with all the other -- all reasons, things, stopping the supreme court turning into a political court, and now we are preventing the truth. host: all right, larry, you got your three points in. thank you, for everybody, weighing in in the past hour. we will take a break in the talk with gene karpinski of the league of conservation voters. it will be this year's campaign and clifford young will be with us later withipsos polling, a

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million on this race. give us the numbers. guest: a little bit of context, too. there has never been a more anti-alone the president or congress, and our supporters know this. support,this is therefore we have raised more money by far than ever before for the elections. the lcv victory fund will spend that money. --t: augusta are into the take us deeper into the why of all of this. guest: take the issue of our time, the issue climate change. credit,t obama, to his

made some significant changes. hecut carbon pollution, proposed and finalize the clean power plant. he decided to capture other emissions from other sources, and for the first time in this 95th agreement, under countries around the world, they were going to be all in together. begin to address the climate challenge. all of that is under attack. pulling united states out -- the only country in the world that is not in that agreement today. reducing carbon pollution, people are seeing that. our members and supporters are saying that.

host: let me get the numbers on the screen for gene karpinski, the league of conservation voters. (202)ats can call host 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002 is your number. we are talking about environmental issues. group, league of conservation voters spending $60 million is what we read. explain where you are spending the money at how you are doing it. guest: sure. it is a big playing field, as you know. the first priority is to defend and expand the firewall in the senate. the senate firewall has actually blocked a lot of bad bills from passing. it is the most anti-environmental we have seen. , of the billsthem we have seen, have been blocked. second, i would send us a year ago, but it is clear that the house of representatives is in

place. we have a chance to create a proenvironment majority again, so we are making investments in the house. over $50 million of the $60 million will be in the house of representatives, which is four times as much as we have ever spent in the house. as you know, there are governors races around the country. we're working with our state lcv partners in those days and looking for opportunities to make progress on clean energy, climate, to expand and defend the firewall, create an majority in the whit the house. host: where does the money come from ar there more donors, are the amounts larger? ? -- come from? are there more donors? are the amounts larger? guest: some are more significant donors. some small donors might be

getting five dollars, a large donor may be giving $100,000, and in between. we also have an effort to raise money for specific candidates called give green. we have a group called next in climate, and the three groups have raised money directly to candidates. that is the biggest we have ever in that segment as well, so thousands of people giving to give green, hundreds of thousands of people give us resources. host: let's start taking some calls. tim is calling, a democrat from toledo, ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. with climate change it always, i find it kind of comical because whether pollution -- what we're doing is causing climate change or not, to me it is besides the point, because pollution is that. it makes the air unreadable, the breathable, the water

is bad. to me, it is common sense. guest: you are exactly right. tim.s for, that comment, we have seen intense wildfires in the west, a climate action summit with governor brown, he referenced wired fighters -- wildfires. but you're right, pollution as a major impact on people's health, and we have done a job in some places to cut pollution, but the coal-fired power has is what causes the increase asthma attacks and helps create the global warming that we are so concerned about. host: james, new york, republican. hi there. caller: i want to say i am a social conservative. i used to be a green party, but

i switch over because i think environmentalism is a social -- endeavor -- a bit it is a conservative endeavor. like the previous caller said, anything you can do to reduce the pollution, you will save money. it is really a conservative endeavor. i want to work within the party at the republican to change the viewpoints, because it is going to save money, basically, is what it comes down to. short-term profits, long-term investments. that is my point view. guest: james, you are absolutely right. with roosevelt, theodore, probably the greatest republican -- greenest republican we have ever seen. we work with republicans. lcv todayhairman of

is a former republican chair. civil war clean air, people want clean water. it is great for the economy, for your health. i appreciate that. host: you mentioned the house. who are your friends on the senate side? guest: the funny thing about the senate is more and more senators have said i want to stand up for you. ranking people on the two energy committees stand up for that, senator tom from delaware. with scott pruitt, finally happened. the senator from delaware commanding champion. on has been a leader protecting public land into rollback, protect against attacks on our public lands. people like mr. carver, maria

cantwell, sheldon whitehouse, there is a longer list, which is a great thing. saw this headline late last year, there were early signs of 2018, this is the huffington post, but i was wondering when we were preparing segment, with other news we here in town, segment, r news we here in town, are people paying attention? host: environmental issues vary by place. jon tester in a state that mr. by over 20 points. we keep score. 80% lifetime score. about publicwas lands. in conversation about algae andusion is, like -- pollution is, like, front and center.

different places have different conversations. here in flint, michigan, they talk about drinking water's. host: you mentioned montana. here is an ad. [video clip] texas billionaires koch deal.rs gave a lucrative rose and fell back legislation benefiting the wilson brothers as they ba cked public land. that is for them, not us. gene karpinski? dale, early rosen in the election cycle, he looked at the camera, he tells stories

about climate impacts on his farm, and he knows that protecting public land is important in the state of indiana. host: here is john from indiana. hello there. caller: hello. host: good morning, john. caller: regarding that ad, i do not understand what we always demonize people who create wealth and jobs. i think the environment -- oceans have been rising for thousands of years, and if you go to the galapagos islands, you water leundreds of hundreds of feet higher and lower. none of the stuff that we are doing is good, but how can we likeaway from things natural gas and oil that are helping to create funds that can go to conservation and go to

people that need it? like natural gas andguest: john, thad point to raise. a summit, and the consensus, like you said, it is federal level today, president trump backing out of making any progress about climate change. you talk to governors, mayors, local officials, leaders of other countries around the world, look, if we're going to be serious about our future, we need to we know way off a also fuels in toward a clean energy future. that is a way to protect ourselves from pollution. but it is good for the economy. california's economy is booming, and they are leaving the country with clean energy. it is for our health, good for the economy, and good for pocketbooks. host: a little pushback from fred via twitter. climate change is a fraud," he writes.

"new york city is still sitting where it always has." guest: the data is really clear on this. if you look at the hottest years on record, 15 of the last 16 were the hottest we have seen. the science is absolutely crystal clear. it is as clear as smoking tobacco causes cancer. it is clear. we need to deal with it. we cannot keep our heads in the sand. host: independent caller from new york for gene karpinski. caller: good morning, mr. pinsky. -- mr. karpinski. too much pollution, and the people that are going to pay for it are our children and our grandchildren. we are raping the earth. this has been going on for a wild. -- a while.

it is more important to take the wealth of this country, this guy is running in west virginia, because of coal, because of the pollutants that we put out there, and people denying it, and that is political pollution. it is political pollution when people refuse to accept scientific, factual information, when the dictionary, collusion, if you look it up in the dictionary, it is conspiracy. there is a disconnect between what is true and what is not. who has the most money? billionaires who are raping this earth! whoand they can contribute a lot more than you or i can, but these are political action committees. willhings that destroy america is you and i are human beings, but their vote means nothing when i can contribute $10 to a candidate,

when billionaires, pac's, billionaires can contribute billions of dollars for candidates who will do what they want. if i was a candidate and someone offered me $30,000, and you were offering me five dollars, it is human nature that i am going to pay more attention to the guy with $30,000. i appreciate your work, mr. karpinski. and i think that people need to be more aware. park.d in toront rockaway that man in new york is absolutely incorrect. sandy destroyed a lot of new york people who are still trying to recover, so i do not want to hear no crap from somebody living in new york in sun high-rise where rockaway park was inundated. your: we appreciate

passion on that. you are absolutely right that the looting interests, the koch brothers, the oil companies, they are investing records amount of money to keep people who protect their interests in power, people like donald trump, scott pruitt, many of the leaders in congress are doing the bidding of the polluters who fund their campaign, exactly like you said. that is the corrupting influence we see in washington. we do not want to say we will outspend them. they have more money. money thatamount of we are going to spend is to ensure that people go out and vote. you have the same one vote that a fossil fuel executive company has. to make surellenge people care about clean air, water, about protecting public lands. get out and vote. get your friends and neighbors

out to vote. so thanks for your comments. make sure you get your friends out to vote. change the we can corrupting money. host: you mentioned florida earlier. writesd blue," , "the toxic algae that are a key issue in the florida midterm elections. " what are you seeing? one has run a recently that is part of the attack. ricks, as the governor, trying to shut down a conversation about climate in that state. offshore drilling

in that state. he seems to have changed his mind. on how muchd it up he is responsible for the algae. bill nelson is for the environment. . host: let's go to bill in sebastian. remind us what part of the state sebastian is in? the indianis on river, central florida, on the east coast. hurricane country, duke energy with their coal ash up there in north carolina has devastated the poorer community is in that particular part of the country, along with smithfield and their pig farms. i agree wholeheartedly about rick scott and what he has done

environmentally here in florida. it has deteriorated markedly, and it is affecting many, many people's health down here. it is a crime. it is actually a crime that is going on down here. i thank this gentleman for his service. host: anything you want to add there? guest: a lot the impacts of pollution disproportionately orl on communities of color low income people where they are not as well equipped to address the challenges. that is important. most importantly, make sure you get your friends out to vote, because that is a sharp contrast to rick scott and bill nelson. also in the governor's race, andrew gillum is a big champ on the environment. his opponent has a 2% environmental score. make sure your friends turnout.

host: how much are you spending in florida? guest: it will be seven figures. that is an important race, the governor's race and the senate race. host: there's also this headline, the caller alluded to the north carolina flooding from florence. the duke energy plant has been breached. the defenses they're sending something called toxic coal ash into the cape fear river. remind us of what coal ash is, what is a significant, and what this group might be expecting from the agency level in washington. guest: this is a big challenge. is residue from the coal fire plants in the state. roy cooper is the governor, if we actually helped elect him in 20, and he ran in part because the previous governor had actually we can theyed -- had actually weakened the regulations on coal ash, so cooper said we have to change

the rules, but it has not been changed yet. in fact, the president just relaxed some of the rules that were going to go in place on coal ash. when you have record floods, we will see hog farms, as the caller mentioned, and the coal ash sitting there ready to be breached. this is exactly the kind of crisis we need to be prepared for, and exactly contrary to what the government is doing. both are really dangerous, and it will affect people's health. we will hear about these impacts for a long time to come. int: there is an ad california, 40th district, i believe, put on by this group, the league of conservation voters. [video clip] >> is getting hotter. but while fire and smoke choked our air, dana rohrabacher is opposed to fighting climate change. >> global warming is a fraud. >> he set extra carbon dioxide is not hurt people's health.

fuelg with fossil companies over california's environment. too extreme and out of touch. say no to dana rohrabacher. host: gene karpinski, how do you think you are doing on the 48th? guest: we always test and see how they work, and it is actually working with mayor bloomberg and some of these, especially that one, but becomes in california, as we said, the climate change impacts, people see the. , orfires in the droughts isna rohrabacher completely out of touch, and we are confident we will be him. host: our next caller, what is the name? caller: i live in genesee. the manhattan project will allow us to connect redding,

california to the storms that just happened in north carolina, as far as being able to capture the freshwater. a lot of the farmlands were inundated, had crops that were getting ready to be harvested. notice crops have been flooded out your deck would have been avoided. if we had the kind of government that has the vision to actually create some kind of manhattan project, we can actually catch capture a lot of the freshwater. that is a new phenomenon. it has only gone on for about two or three years, the slow-moving storms that do not without the way, they just say over you and water on you. tohave to figure out a way channel that not only two redding, california, into the apple force. aquafors. everyone talks about america is

great -- america is exceptional when it is thinking of the future, when you think big thoughts and take on big projects. we are the only country that can do it. if we do it, all other countries in the world would mimic what we are doing because it is not just in america, they have a big typhoon just recently in asia and some of the asian countries. we can lead the world, and that is what we need to do. mr. karpinski, i will be contributing. guest: thank you. and you made a point, we need to think big, we need to thank creative, use good old american nationality to get the job done. like you said, the manhattan project used to make much more serious investments. we need to we ourselves from the dirty fossil fuels and come to a cleaner future because it is good for our economy, the future, and the planet. host: let's see one more ad from

your group in nevada. [video clip] >> quality of our air and drinking water should reassess. the american lung association gives nevada a failing grade. our attorney general should protect us from polluters. instead, adam rexall attended a retreat hosted by oil billionaire koch brothers, and bygot work by a group backed polluters. xalt is for big oils, not us. guest: similar thing, we have =een laxalt doing t biddin -- doing the bidding of polluters. be theis trying to governor. we are all in against that race. foropponent is 100%

clean energy. he is the democratic candidate who needs to win that race. host: we have another caller. [no audio] caller: think an issue is spraying of our crops with the gmo's. people are getting sick from the food they are eating. i do not understand why people have to buy organic food instead of having natural food. these days corporations that are spraying and spraying and spraying our crops are killing people and causing these afflictions that they are rising up with. nobody mentions the gmo's, because these corporations are so big and so powerful. look at what monsanto has done to hawaii, the pineapple crops. i will not eat a pineapple, and i think it is a sin that they

are spraying and spraying our crops and whizzing our people. host: thanks for calling. final thoughts. guest: is a good point, food,ide sprayed on our we have challenges with the air, water, the changing of the climate, and that is why these elections are so critical. the polluters want to keep people in power who are doing their bidding. that is what we are doing our part and we hope more people turn out to vote. host: our guest has been gene karpinski, league of conservation voters, president of the fund . thank you for your time. guest: thank you. host: there is a new poll out from ipsos, and clifford young will be here to talk about that. and later, dean cain, actor, author will talk

about his new movie about kermit gosnell. andill talk about politics hollywood. you are watching "washington journal" for this saturday, a 22.ember we will be right back. our cityuntry on capitals tour. we recently stopped in des moines, iowa. we are asking people -- which party should control congress, and why? >> i do feel like the democratic party should control congress next year. i feel like the current administration that we have, it would definitely be a good idea to have a check on the administration. some of the policies that are being done, i do not agree with, alwayshough i am not going to agree with everything, i just feel like having one party in the position they are right now is not getting a lot

done, and it would be best if we have a check on this current administration. also, i would like to see both parties getting back to some civility. it seems like right now all they do is sometimes they are badmouthing one party versus the other. it would be wonderful if we could get back to a more workable agreement between the parties. >> i personally believe that if the control of congress changes -- you think things are not getting done now? wait until the switches and there is obstruction, vindication, recriminations against existing, and more and more obstruction. we finally have some progress. not all of it has been done as gently and sold as well as it

should be, but think of what an insult it is to legal immigrants, people who go thatgh all that process, has done nothing for illegal immigration. we need to address that. it has never been addressed by the democratic party, and we are headed for all kinds of landlocked, standstill, big problems if the party, if the power changes hands. >> sadly, it does not necessarily matter which party wins as long as that party does something. i am a progressive leans more for the democratic side, however, if you get in there and you just fight and argue about getting rid of president trump, that is not solve anything. trump's base, why they are pointing, is because they are

doing something getting stuff done. that is the point. i am not saying i support the president or anybody, it is -- what are you going to do for us, as far as anybody goes? i do think democrats should hopefully get the house and senate back just to have an equal, stable floor. >> if the control of congress changes, we will care deeply about the education policy. right now, the higher education authorization act is still pending in congress. he'll grant, a huge impact on our student body. the futurenk about of the education and workforce, this type together carefully, because if we do not provide this for our students, they cannot be successful in the workforce in the long run. >> part of c-span 50 capital store. >> "washington journal" continues. host: talking out with clifford young, ipsos' president of

public there's. new pulling out -- affairs. new polling out. thank you for being here. guest: thank you. that shows only one third of americans support judge kavanaugh. guest: we really wanted to see after the allegations what the effect was. so what do we see? about 35% of americans support the confirmation. where does that put him historically? on the negative side, more like bork or myers. but one third have also not made up their mind. the average american typically is worried about their job, and variabilitya lot of

still in public opinion, and to date, there have been more of the allegation, but there could be. host: do you think the hearings will help? guest: we do not know what the dynamics will be. saying, one third of the people have not felt much about it. 30% to 40% have not thought about it a lot, but those who have had really taken a stand, and what we find is more specifically, on the one hand, it is really a partisan issue. if you are in favor of capital, it is because of public is and those set of issues are in continue, whether it be roe v. wade on one hand, the role of the state on the other, and the democrats the same as well. it is less of an issue for gender. we thought it would be more of a gender role. but it is really party

specifically. host: phone numbers on the bottom of the screen for our guests, cliff young. brett kavanaugh, opponents are the first two lines, and just unsure are the third line. kavanaugh's favorability has not shifted since the allegation. guest: that is really important to emphasize. we have been tracking this for the last month. we took the data, and we looked before the scores allegation and after, and really no effect. the question is why? all of these issues already facing people's perceptions. if you are republican, you already support him for all the reasons related to being republican, as i was saying, roe v. wade on the one hand, the role of the states on the other. if you are democrat, you have negative views towards him, once again. support for

kavanaugh is deeply partisan, men more than women on average. guest: 1% to 2%. women are less likely to support confirmation than men, but it is really more of a partisan issue, which part you identify with, th the gender and you are. host: support for the nomination lowest since harriet miers. we will keep these names and the years on the screen. walk us through the nominees. guest: historically speaking, negative image or reputation is a function of in transit issues, much more related to issues of race. miers was much more related to issues of experience.

look across, you the board, it was typically double-digit support for the nomination's, for the nominees, whether they be more right-leaning or left-leaning, but what we have seen over the last little bit, is actually wit gorsuch and capital, is it is -- and kavanaugh is it is really reflecting the time some of what color shirt you wear, whether red or blue, as whether you support. think about high levels of support. in specific cases, it is much more an issue of their intrinsic in one way orna, another, but we see the hyper partisanship. host: we will go more over the polling information with clifford young of ipsos. first, we go to our caller from north carolina, a supporter of judge kavanaugh. caller: good morning, sir.

how are you doing? host: well. how are you? caller: i am doing exceptionally well. ofm a total supporter kavanaugh, just the second amendment being defended. to hopefullyooking get back to as soon as possible, because the deterioration that has taken place in this nation, roe v. wade and the fight against, you know, abolishing the second amendment, people that kill people -- guns are just a tool, sense as anything else. even recently, sexual allegations that have come out against him. it is heartbreaking, heart wrenching, it is very disturbing. there have been no facts being brought out against the man about something that weighs approximately 40 years ago.

we could go on and on. it is sad because in the arena of public opinion, this is what, sadly, most of the time does take place, but you would think that the legislators, those who make the laws, uphold the laws, they would not run and rush to judgment, as the public arena have. you try tobecause have a diplomatic, an open forum for debate, rebuttal, etc. we could go on and on with the rhetoric. the way the man has been treated, his family, what they have been put through because of something that has not been proven. host: thanks, chris. guest: i think he reflects the standard republican reflection on kavanaugh. it is important to emphasize that they are once again worried about roe v. wade, worried about legislative agenda from the

bench. i think the caller reflects the. it is important to emphasize republican voters vote on supreme court nominations, they tend to be more likely single issue voters, that is the supreme court, where democrats and independents less so. it is a group of issues. the caller reflects very wealthy republican attitude toward the spring court and the nominee. what we see is the stakes are very high for a man's station. host: tony in fort lauderdale, florida. caller: good morning, how are you doing? host: good, good. caller: i am not sure, because i am not a legal expert. a lot of people who have no idea to bethe specifics tend

legal experts. i do not know enough about this man to say he is going to be a great judge or a bad judge. the problem is, in the judiciary committee, i did not hear anybody really deal with is rulings. i heard a lot of character assassination. i heard people besmirch the supreme court. i heard people actually cursing his family. kirsten gillibrand saying "he is guilty." how do they think his little girls feel? how many people would like to girl their little theyng on their hands when are being told their father is a sex offender. guest: tony, will an investigation help? can you ever be sure? caller: no, you can never be sure, and that is why we need to

hear from these people. i do not have enough information history's man; legal -- man's legal history, because all i have heard is republicans saying he is a great j democrat saying he is the son of satan. i heard the same thing about clarence thomas. i understand they were mad about judge garland, and he was done wrong, but you do not do another man wrong, you do not do another man's family wrong. let's get some facts about the man's judicial history. host: clifford young, let's get back to the one third of people who are unsure. guest: i think tony reflects those who are undecided. it is important to say that in

such cases, public opinion often defer to senators. that is why travel colors, whether democrat or republican, really matters, because you listen to your senator depending on where you are. but tony is right, there is a discussion that politics as oftenis rocket and unfair. there is a widespread belief, do or more, that politicians not care and do not reflect the average person. that is in part what tony is disgust kind of at politics as usual, but once again, if you look at the polling, people want more detail when it comes to kavanaugh and the accuser. host: up to this point, the people think the hearings have incredible, fair? guest: it is mixed. believe inhand, they

the process generally, but once again, it is really a partisan issue. if you are democrat or democrat leaning, you do not believe the process has been fair. if you are a republican, you do. that is part of the problem in the united states -- and by the way, not just the united states but the whole world, a wholesale uncertainty and rejection of the system and questioned the process of health. host: let's go to new york. henry is on the line. hey, henry. good morning. [no audio] caller: good morning. i am opposed to judge kavanaugh being appointed to the supreme court for a couple of reasons. one is executive valor. the public would he able to read what he said about that, working in the bush administration, when he was working on the whitewater

investigation. also, one of the reasons i oppose it is this country now, the population is very diverse. know, being and having his ruling, a lot of them favoring corporations, and, you know, a lot the corporations, the environmental rulings have changed under the trump administration. a lot of these, you know, the polluters, corporations who are polluters, what happens with them? communities,oor the poor communities in this country. has him, i do not think he that much experience with a lot these areas where

companies are situated, where their sites are, and he has to have much more diverse view of the populations throughout this country. from a relatively privileged background, going through private school and ivy league schools. much experience he has with those types of experiences that people have with corporations like that, because a lot of these types of cases will come before him through the supreme court. so as far as i can see, he is not going to be less open-minded as i would like for him to be. host: ok, henry, thanks. guest: once again, democrats and some independents do not believe he reflects their values.

that has been the polling overall. but i think the caller also once again is capturing this sort of zeitgeist in the u.s. they believe that the system is broken, wherever side of the aisle you are on, you believe that. there is a lack of confidence for rejection of the status quo. it would be big business and individuals. skepticism is something we are seeing reoccurring over the course of time. we have seen this especially since 2014 or so. as i said before, this is a phenomenon we see not only in the united states but both in america and europe as well. host: politics, more than half think the sexual assault allegations hurt capital. yes, across party lines, they think the allegations will have a negative effect in the of running elections. what we found is before the

accusations, the primary issue was trump -- it always is. the sitting president is always a focal point of the midterm. but people are also worried about health care, immigration -- more democrats are worried about it. republicans are worried about immigration. what we have foundbut people ard about tracking these issues on social media real-time that the supreme court also as the second issue. so it goes trump, the supreme court, health care, and immigration. another, this could go into people's calculus. it could happen effect on the margin. a lot of close races. will this play a role? i think it will be a secondary, tertiary role, but it could affect the outcome on election day. host: let's go to susan in dayton, ohio. hi, susan. caller: hi. good morning.

i am a little nervous. anyway, i am 68 years old. i am a masters level social worker and a mental health therapist. i have struggled with all of this since the beginning. much hoping she would testify, because i believe judge kavanaugh is innocent until proven guilt. this does not ring true to me. her story does not ring true to me. mind there is a lot more going on with this lady than one night 35 years ago. people deal with things later in life. i personally did. but i don't buy it.

i was hoping, as i said, i was hoping she would testify, but has aer, uh, she probably significant mental health that is not, and something people generally want to discuss in public. host: all right, susan. guest: with this being for or against judge kavanaugh? host: it was hard to tell. guest: i think susan reflect a lot of uncertainty about these things. will reemphasize the point, reiterate the point of partisan persuasion. that clouds a lot of how you see things. if you are republican, you probably do not believe her.

again, for the 30% or 40% that are undecided, they are not quite sure, these material factors come out and can have an effect openly. this is a case where testimony can have an effect. let's hear from christopher in buffalo, new york. good morning. guest: hey, christopher. caller: good morning. let's hear from christopher in buffalo, newi woe andblicans force the vote then i believen, the democrats will take over the senate, and then we will put in that thehe things republicans don't want. we will actually vote in medicare system for everybody,

and we will vote in that abortion is legal in all 50 states. because we will have the senate hopefully. host: thank you for the call, chris. , the majoritypsos of americans believe abortion should remain legal, in most cases. and about half of all americans believe roe v. wade is unlikely to be overturned. tell us more. guest: republicans tend to be more single-issue voters. roe v. wade has been very specific. but overall, people are less concerned about roe v. wade being overturned. in some ways, for many people, it is registered for them. worried about be their jobs, picking kids up from school, making sure they are healthy themselves. the other thing about abortion, more specifically, there is a

lot conditionality to it, of abortion. most people are not completely for it or completely against it. moree case of rape, americans will be in favor. in the case of third trimester abortion, not many are in favor of abortion. the point being the population is for it, 79% of democrats, 49% of independents, 59% of americans in all. in some ways, though we do not know specifically, we are in for a kavanaugh's position, it is off point with the average of where america is. host: i wanted to make sure i got it right, a few callers ago said she was supporting kavanaugh. yonkers.ling from

caller: it is corinne. host: i am sorry, go ahead. caller: judge kavanaugh committed perjury. he denied receiving emails that have been stolen from the staff of the democratic senator, patrick leahy. newly released documents show that kavanaugh had the documents after all and was lying. testify thatnaugh he knew nothing about the bush administration's warrant with wiretapping programs. newly released evils shows he has known about it since the beginning -- newly released emails shows he had known about it since the beginning. also about the torture policy, newly released emails show he was. he was in the vetting of right-wing justices william pryor and thomas thomas

pi. we have proof he was involved in both. now that you, orrin hatch and the chairman, they thought it was great to happen at ei investigation when anita hill problemsbrought up the with judge thomas. someone on thet supreme court -- women should be very upset. they are trying to rambus through-- ram this with open investigations repeatedly. this is very alarming. first, they wait a year and do that obamaudge wanted on the supreme court that more represented us. this is so outrageous that people should really, you know, pu pressure on people.

host: all right. guest: once again, i will reemphasize the partisan nature of this. if your blue leaning, you will tend not to believe were given benefit of the doubt. this goes to a much broader scenario, tohe create consensus. that the biggest issue. whether you are on the right or the left, some sort of reasonable consensus about what is a reasonable candidate, and as part of our tribal politics today. host: we will go to our last call.again, the it will be helpful to the me too movement. tell us about this. guest: it has been an increasing force over the last year or so. we have seen this with women running for political office on the one hand, these issues on other.

other. it is a reflection of people today. as i was saying before, this is not the primary issue or the primary election of the upcoming election, or even 2020, put on the margin, it could have an effect, using florida as an example, or potentially in arizona, where they are all net and that. all of our -- neck and neck. host: one last call. gene in houston, texas. caller: good morning. i'm willing to listen to both sides before i form my opinion. watching what's been going on in the run-up to this, it's been plain to me that the democrats are playing games. i think a lot of this is about the me too movement, but predominately, this is about trump, a resistance to trump and everything he's trying to do. that's my opinion on what's going on with this justice, this lady accusing him.

ai, artificial intelligence could help pulling olling, bring pol ling to a place where it could be believed. are applying artificial intelligence already to our analytics. i talked about us tracking at ipsos real-time issues on social media, who do you tend to favor or support in terms of candidacy, that's all being driven by ai. it is a very important tool for us. whether we are right or not, we predict the elections in a more butst way to be determined,

we are using ai increasingly in our toolkit of approaches. .com is the place to go to read more about their work. we will take another short timeout. dean cain will be joining us to talk about hollywood and politics and a new "gosnell." in called >> this weekend on american history tv on c-span3, tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern on america -- -- reel >> a significant achievement in the cause of peace.

an achievement none thought possible a year ago or even a month ago. an achievement that reflects the courage and wisdom of these two leaders. peace" on thefor camp david peace accords. a lookican artifacts, back at the 1988 bombings of the u.s. embassies in nairobi and tanzania. >> we heard an explosion. most of us went to the window. , a trains later sounding impact of high energy hit all of us. 213 people were instantly killed. 48 of whom were employees of the

united states government. >> watch on american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >> this weekend on book tv, today, at 4:15 p.m. eastern, bob woodward's interview on his new book, "fear: trump in the white house." >> somebody in a key position called me and said everyone knows what you have in this book is 1000% correct. >> at 9:00 p.m. eastern, can star -- ken starr discusses his book, "contempt." >> we learn from our history as a free people. impeachment was not the wise way to go. >> on sunday at 9:00 p.m.

johnrn on afterwords, kerry discusses his book, "every day is extra." he's interviewed by jane harman. >> john and i were flying to kuwait on an airplane. we were seated opposite each other by seniority. seniority here worked. it brought us together and we had a conversation into the night talking about annapolis and his father and grandparents, his family, his own service and his time as a prisoner. he wanted to learn more about what happened with us and what it was like. we pledged to each other that the country was still too divided over the war. we thought we needed to try to find a way to make peace in vietnam and at home.

>> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us at the table, actor, director and producer, dean cain. what brings you to washington? >> i'm here promoting a film, "gosnell." he was an abortion clinic doctor . he was performing late-term abortions and having live births snipping," killing the children by cutting their spinal cords. jim wood is a detective who started a narcotics investigation that ended up showing all of this stuff. they raided his clinic and found

fetuses. inside, horrible place it was absolutely terrible. the bags of fetuses, nothing like you could imagine. if you could imagine it in a hollywood movie, it was worse. host: we have the trailer. >> we are looking for anything that looks like drugs or paraphernalia. >> we have a search warrant. >> what is that smell? >> you've got to see this. >> i've never been in an abortion clinic before. >> you're not going to believe what i saw that night. >> how many? >> so far, we've found over 30. >> there's no police report? >> look at this. you will be the prosecutor who went after reproductive

rights and you will be a racist to boot. >> you have a lot of folks who would like to see abortion outlawed. this is not going to be the case that gives them an excuse. >> prosecution is offering a plea bargain, dr. gosnell. >> not guilty. >> when you get to the courthouse, you are going to be swarmed by reporters. >> you ready for this? >> where is everybody? >> when was the last time your inspection -- >> we had instructions not to inspect. facts, you at the will see what i see. an overzealous investigator. >> nothing that man did protects women or children. you don't have to be a pro-life activist to see that. >> dr. gosnell is the most

prolific serial killer in american history. >> you better win. , why did youin take the role of the investigator? what does the story mean to you? guest: it was a great role. a fantastic script. the testimony from inside the courtroom is taken from courtroom records. it is really spot on. i didn't take it to make a statement. i took the role to tell a story. a story the media wasn't covering for some reason. because of the word "abortion." it is a top subject to cover. they will disguise it by using different words, reproductive rights. , six months,

late-term abortion was banned and he was performing them routinely. they convicted him on three. there may have been hundreds and hundreds. host: you had a tough time getting this movie released. guest: we had a tough time getting the movie made. the funds were raised on indigo egogo. nobody wanted to release it. npr, weing ad time on were barred from doing that, calling dr. gosnell an abortion doctor, we couldn't call him that. we will get to your calls in just a couple of minutes. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001.

.ndependents, 202-748-8002 you are part of the presentation last night at the values voter summit. they are referred to as a socially conservative organization. are you a socially conservative? guest: i'm not. i'm socially liberal. at the event, i had nothing but warm welcome. i've always supported gay-rights, i support equality across the board. i'm christian. i practice my faith rather quietly. i'm a single father of an 18-year-old boy. my life has been centered around that kid. he just graduated high school. i've raised a young gentleman. i couldn't be more proud of him. i'm not a social conservative.

host: how active are you politically? guest: i speak quite often about issues. icome on a show like this, posted fox and friends weekend several times, i posted the today show a lot -- posted the hosted thea lot -- today show a lot. i wasn't active as a younger man, but i've realized as i've gotten older how important it is. hollywood for ugly people -- that is hysterical. i've been coming to the correspondents dinner for years. washington is its own place. it is a different world. i live in hollywood and deal with that community. there's politics involved there quite a bit. i wish it wasn't so partisan.

i would like to see people reaching across the aisle and working together. i think we are getting more transparency with this administration. i fully support president trump. i haven't been quite about that at all. his policies, not so much his rhetoric. i've been open about that. the twitter mobs, the social media mobs are vicious. it doesn't bother me. it doesn't affect my career. if it does affect my career, so be it. overseas, which i worldot, speaking to leaders and people on the streets, the strength, the conviction, they know they are dealing with a president who has backbone. under president obama, that wasn't the case.

they know president trump, if he says it, he means it. i'm happy to see what he's done with the economy. i was happy to see him get out of the iran deal. i was happy to see him get out of the paris climate accord. these aren't treaties. if you use your pen and your phone, you will be overturned by your pen and your phone. created to get things done. you should use the proper channels. guest: host: lauren from alexandria, minnesota. caller: good morning. about this abortion, the saddest is thebout abortion people who believe in it weren't aborted. guest: that is pretty sensing.

-- assisting. t. succinc i'm pro-choice up until 24 weeks. i would never abort my own child. i would never want that done. my son is the greatest blessing in my life. fact who can discuss the we are all here, we worked aborted -- weren't aborted. i was later adopted by my dad, who has been the greatest role model of my life. in today's climate, would i have been aborted? maybe. i won't tell somebody they have to be pro-choice or pro-life. 24 have been 26 weeks -- 24-26

weeks, your chance of survival is 90%. host: georgia. lee on the line. caller: i'm glad they have made a movie like this to make more they don'te that want to look at it and say they are killing babies, but that's what they are doing. it's really murder. i think we can justify it in any way -- can't justify it in any way. argument is always it is a clump of cells, a red spot -- you can hear a heartbeat at six weeks. in order to have an abortion, you have to listen to the heartbeat, you have to see the ultrasound. that is important.

i wouldn't want to legislate that a woman couldn't make that decision before viability. i personally want every child to be born. i don't want to take a life, but i wouldn't legislate it. at 24 weeks, legally, that would be the standard. a lot of people are going to do it. there would be a lot of health problems. you can look at the past to see that being the case. weeks, about six months, you should have made your decision by then. host: a lot of people connecting the abortion issue to the kavanaugh hearings. what do you think of the hearings up till this point? guest: i think judge kavanaugh

has acquitted himself well. the gentleman clearly knows the getand wasn't going to hoodwinked or made to look silly discussing the law. he knows it well. i said this last night on tucker carlson. anyone who is a victim of sexual assault, that is a horrible thing and i feel for them. this 11th hour allegation coming up so late, completely uncorroborated, it does raise a lot of problems. the specter of innocent until proven guilty -- anybody can be accused. you can be accused of the exact same thing and it is a terribly scary thing. i could be accused of it. there's no way. that is tough. i think it is political at this point.

i believe she is telling the truth. i don't know that she can prove it. it happened at 15 years old. he was 17. i look back at my life and there's things i might have done at 17 years old that i wouldn't be proud to flaunt in public. not sexual assault. we don't know that's what this was. i think it is a delay tactic. it's probably not going to work. host: we are on with actor and producer, dean cain. georgia. good morning. caller: good morning. , wended obama apologize obamaything -- when did apologize for anything? president trump stood on stage with putin and

apologized for america. guest: i don't recall president trump apologizing for america. president obama was an apologist? i think he was a great speaker. policies werehis fantastic, certainly overseas. i don't think he helped us in foreign policy at all. afghanistan, i don't think those were successes. aswas more of an apologist he went around the european countries. president trump as seen as a strong leader overseas, the leaders talk about it. host: we understand you were a

ted cruz supporter in the beginning. what did you see in the center -- senator? guest: i liked ted cruz because he did go to princeton. the fact that he's younger than me still stymies me, though. i like his take on a lot of issues. he was soundly defeated. as he dropped out, i pivoted to president trump. i didn't support president trump at the beginning because of the rhetoric. it turned out to work for him. i wouldn't do the same thing. i would be a different kind of politician. it has proven to be very effective for him. completely,ort it but it has worked for him. host: you played football at

princeton. guest: i got hurt in buffalo playing for the buffalo bills. then i pivoted to acting. rookie justd as a before the first preseason game. i have to find something else to do. host: is there a connection between sports and acting and politics? guest: all of it together. especially acting and politics, no question about that. we get paid to play a role. i see a lot of that in politicians, the speeches they give. that person seems like they are acting to me. that is interesting. sports, there's acting involved in sports. being involved is a nice crossover between all three. host: ricky in west virginia. good morning. are you there? caller: yes, good morning.

i have two comments. first of all, i would say that in my opinion, abortion should be illegal. i would ask mr. cain if he thinks that professor ford should be checked out by the fbi. guest: i don't think abortion should be made illegal. i am pro-choice up until the viability of the fetus. i don't think we should legislate otherwise. professor ford, i'm a reserve police officer as well, i don't -- their job fbi to check out 8:36 your old unsubstantiated -- to check out unsubstantiate

d allegation. if that would satisfy everybody, that's what the republicans will allow. i think it is all a delay tactic. think -- anything that certainly anit was 11th hour allegation. the way it came out was suspect. host: here's a tweet -- guest: it's not like you choose one over the other. you make the story of gosnell was out there. nobody was telling the story. this was 2011 when they discovered it all and his trial was in 2013.

it was a project that the producers and our writer came up with. then it came to me. i will doike i said this one here and not the one in the 1960's -- it plays incredibly well, it is incredibly gripping. it is not a gory film. you understand the emotional impact it has on people. jobdirector did a wonderful of walking that line. you understand what they are seeing but you don't have to see it. you don't choose to make one movie over the other. be a what's it like to supporter of president trump living in hollywood? guest: in 2005, i visited iraq -- it feels like being on a base there and getting shelled.

withl discuss policy anybody. i'm happy to have the conversation. i'm not going to get all riled up and start vilifying the person who's talking to me. ,f you have a better point convince me, i will change my opinion. at the same time, hear me out without vilifying me. i welcome differing viewpoints. people won't have the discussion. they will just name call. the name-calling is horrendous. maybe it is because of social media, it has become common place where you can just hurl out these expletives about people. that's what they do. you are a racist, you are a hope of hope -- a homophobe, is .nough of -- a xenophobe

rob reiner, i like rob reiner personally, i don't like his politics, but i worked with him on a film a couple years back, i will happily sit down and have a cup of coffee or glass of wine and discuss it with him. host: marilyn in columbus, ohio. caller: first, i would like to say other countries that see i guess that's, why they flew the man baby and have protests. abortion.s about every time republicans say they are pro-life, they should be corrected and say they are pro-birth. it's all about their salvation and their guilt.

my father had to make a decision of whether i lived or my mother. of course, he chose his wife to live. my girlfriend i grew up with, she waited until she was 40 years old to get married and start a family. the first year of her marriage, she got cancer. she had been under all of these poison pills and the dr. told that heoctor told her didn't know what that poisoned it to her fetus. she recommended she get an abortion. it was her choice to have the baby. she was dead within two months. he told her if she continued with the pregnancy, he would have to stop all medications, all treatment. by her being pregnant, her cells , the cancerated cells were accelerated. justovernment -- it isn't

about the woman. it's also about the husband. you are taking away choices from the husband to decide who he wants to live. 36,000 women die every year from childbirth. husband would want to say we can try again, we can adopt. it doesn't matter. i don't want to lose you having a baby. you want the government to take those choices away from a parent and a husband and from that moment. guest: i understand what marilyn said. she's completely mischaracterizing how i feel about it. i'm pro-choice. i wouldn't legislate that at all. for medical reasons, of course, for the child or the mother, without a doubt. i'm also not a republican.

i'm an independent. i don't know that republicans are saying it should be illegal. i would not support that. i agree with her completely. for medical reasons, absolutely, abortion is an option. personally,se life, but i don't think we should legislate the morale oity or that choice to anybody until viability. even after that viability, if there were medical competitions, of course, i would take the mother first or give her that decision. i understand her passion and i agree with her. as far as the man baby balloon in london, that's good, that protest, nats mike pence -- that is mike pence going to hamilton.

this is my personal experience. marilyn may have a different opinion. i've been overseas for over six months this year already all through europe. a lot of people seem to think president trump is a strong leader. host: tyler, texas. good morning, bob. caller: good morning, dean. what a blessing it is to have you on youtube with all your group. i was one of the early contributors to the cause now movie -- gosnell movie. today is the last saturday of constitution week. it seems like all the problems we've had in america is because we are not following the constitution. ago, richard dreyfuss showed up on the tucker carlson

show and said he was involved in civics education and then he disappeared. intoder if you've delved learning the strict interpretation of the constitution to solve these .roblems bless the constitution. created the strongest and most prosperous nation in the history of mankind. i think it is fantastic. i respect someone like brett kavanaugh who knows the constitution well. the constitution is a living, breathing document. it is difficult to change it by design. richard dreyfuss, i hope he gets out there and get more people taking civics classes. it's embarrassing, you ask people on the street, who is

christopher columbus? they don't know much about our history. what is july 4? they don't know the answer to that. -- we is a very important lost teaching that in schools. my son went to a private school. they taught civics. i was very aware of what he was reading and learning. i talked to him about politics all the time. he doesn't want to hear it so much, but it's important. i encourage people to discuss it and get involved and be proactive. that includes people in hollywood. i'm not against people in hollywood discussing politics. come on a show like this and speak. host: have you always been an independent? guest: i was registered as a republican, but i voted for democrats. i voted for bill clinton twice.

i vote for the candidate and their views and policies. host: do you give money to candidates? guest: i have in the past. it hasn't been a tremendous amount. i've donated a couple of times. host: have you done any endorsements? guest: i've said that i endorsed rick perry and john mccain. i certainly met with president clinton a couple of times. i would have endorsed him. i showed up with him a couple of times. host: we talked about sports a little bit. what do you make of the nfl protest, the whole debate? guest: i played in the nfl. tremendously flag and i respect our servicemen and

women. kaepernick'scolin original protest about police brutality and criminal reform. i support criminal reform and i support his right to protest, but not at work. i don't like to see it as a fan of the game and as a big supporter of our flag. i don't like to see it at work. you are at work here, you talk politics, but in a regular work environment, you don't talk politics. -- roger goodell has dropped the ball a lot. i'm sorry that he got his contract renewed. theven't been a fan of decisions he's made. he's dropped the ball time and time again.

the reason the nfl ratings are down, people are very patriotic, they don't want to see that. criminal justice reform needs to happen. i support that 100%. colin kaepernick wearing pigs on his socks dressed up as police officers, i don't support that. that creates division. i would like to see those protests stopped. that would help the ratings for football. maybe it would stop this division a little bit. host: one last call. dan in atlanta, georgia. caller: hey, dean. that donald trump said john mccain wasn't a hero because he was captured. in that same token, he said paul man.ort was an honorable

i spent eight years in the marine corps. years in the united states marine corps. , there is noearned honor amongst thieves. michael cohen got up in federal court, under oath, and said he was directed by the president of the united states to commit campaign-finance violations. if you think i spent eight years in the marine corps to defend this nonsense, if this nonsense is allowed to go forward, it means everything i was taught -- irong, all of a sudden spenturse every day i

defending my country if at the end of the day this is what i was fighting for. there's no honor amongst thieves. about colin kaepernick -- donald trump said john mccain wasn't a hero, paul manafort is an honorable man. get that traitor out of here. host: final thought from our guest. guest: i agree with danny on most of what he said to forget that full out of office. i appreciate his eight years in the marine corps. he is clearly very passionate about that. i didn't agree with what president trump said about john mccain. visitedo vietnam and the hanoi hilton and saw his

flight suit. in hanoick after being and seeing that and spoke to john mccain -- he said that wasn't my flight suit, they just slapped my name on their. i don't defend everything trump has to say. danny is absolutely right with saying that was despicable. i do appreciate his service. i appreciate everyone's service in uniform. i appreciate that. as far as paul manafort, i don't recall what he said. it doesn't seem he's the most honorable of the bunch. .either is michael cohen passion and i support it. i don't think that is grounds

for throwing president trump out of office. ost: dean cain's new film, "gosnell." guest: it opens october 4. host: we will be back after a short break and take some open phones. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. you can talk about anything you'd like. short meantime, here's a piece from the newsmakers segment that will air tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. with charlie kelly talking to us about issues playing out in the house campaigns this fall, especially in the area of corruption. isi think corruption something people aren't surprised by.

it's been there with trump and investigation around russia. the issues with a number of the , whethern incumbents it's collins in york, hunter in california, the list goes on and on. -- collins in new york. that is there. it is certainly part of the conversation. the main driver, the economics issues. >> you try to tie democratic candidates across the map to nancy pelosi. we are seeing that virtually everywhere. is nancy pelosi a political liability for democrats? the reality here -- this is somebody who did a great job as speaker, would do a great job going forward.

paul ryan is the single most popular figure in the country. trump's numbers are falling fast. paul ryan in district after district is the single most unpopular political figure. >> "washington journal" continues. host: open phones for the last 20 minutes. bob has been hanging on in alabama. republican caller. caller: good morning. -- when they get --s abortion trial started charles grassley, what happened to this lady and these baby killer lawyers that george soros and hillary clinton are sending

out on this woman -- if mr. grassley lets this child molester, cory booker, say anything to that man, he needs to be run out of washington. host: crystal in pennsylvania. good morning, crystal. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say, i wanted to talk about the hypocrisy of donald trump. he would convict those young men who were teenagers who he said rate that women in new york city -- raped that women in york c nw -- peoplebut says don't see the hypocrisy in donald trump. he wants to say these young men were guilty, but this man is innocent.

i would never vote for donald trump. i would never, ever, ever vote for a republican. in kansas.ene welcome to the program. caller: i would just like to say depraved.osnell is we can't allow this in our society. one more reason we should make abortion illegal, except where the mother's life is in imminent danger. god has given life to the unborn. civil society requires we also recognize the same, that the unborn human life has rights just as a woman's right -- the

woman has rights. there's another life being formed in the womb. the unborn children have rights also. cannot recognize the rights of the unborn, that reflects badly on our society. host: abortion will come up today at the valley voters summit. the family research council has been putting this event on in washington for the last couple of days. we will have more coverage at 10:15 eastern time. the featured speaker in the late so,ing, around 11:30 or will be the vice president, mike pence. 8:00, we willat

talk with the retiring members of congress. senator bob corker of tennessee will join us. tsongasesentative niki of massachusetts. after that, at 9:00 p.m. eastern , a few hours of highlights from the supreme court confirmation hearing for clarence thomas. you can watch them on www.c-span.org at any time. hoursl show you a few tonight on c-span. long island, new york. good morning. caller: hi. i want to give some constructive criticism about c-span. i love to watch q&a. 9/11,ms like right after

around that time, the news started to get ridiculous with all these things around the screen popping up, it almost looks like a fishbowl. starting to do the thing with the pop up on the bottom of the screen during q&a. theyet into it and then have a white bar at the bottom of the screen telling you what's coming up next. i wish they would save that until the end of the program because it takes me out of the program. that's the good thing about reading a book. you don't have anything flashing at you. host: schedule information for the network is something that is of big interest to us. it's interesting to hear your perspective, that could be disruptive. anything else you want to add? -- who's theand

other guy -- pedro. they are very quick to hang up on people. it seems they want quantity and not quality. they just indiscriminately hang up. host: we try to move through the calls as responsibly as we possibly can to give people time to make their point. c-span, anything in the news you want to talk about? caller: the guy with the abortion -- you should be able to have all the abortions you want. the world is overcrowded, oceans are fished out, the amazon is still being burned down, animals are being raised in horrible conditions to be this population -- feed this population.

i think abortion should be a method of birth control. host: morgan in pennsylvania. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. .espect to dean cain on him to criticize obama foreign policy, this man was on foreign land -- in front of putin, no less. 3000 americans died in puerto rico and none of the christian community has shown one ounce of empathy or caring about -- they care so much about human life. what a joke. host: some dollar figures in the news. "wall street journal" front page florence ranked

among the top hurricanes, but far below last year's trio a powerful cyclones. $50 billion so far is the cost of the storm. itemse several other news to pass along this morning, including something out of "the washington post" as well. farmers beginning to receive bailout checks. farmers -- a program designed to help them weather president trump's trade battle. bailout,y $12 billion which aims to help farmers cope with the retaliatory tariffs. that is from the ag

department. dallas calling from wichita, kansas. good morning. caller: good morning. thenot sure what states woman and mr. cavanaugh were in when the supposed attack happened. what are the statute of limitations? this is not murder. this is an accusation that can't be proven. i find it so ironic that everybody's had this information for so long, yet, a week before the vote -- i understand the democrats are upset because of garland, but at the same time, that's one thing i will give mitch mcconnell kudos for because he hasn't done much else right. host: where do you think this whole thing is going? caller: i hope he does get confirmed. that's all i can say.

the hypocrisy going on on both sides -- i used to be a republican. ien, i went independent -- had to go back to republican because in kansas, we don't have a referendum law. in order to vote for your party, you have to declare. host: what initially moved you from the republican column to an independent in the first place? caller: because of these elites. that's the problem we have here. we have a lot of democratic policies i agree with. i'm more socially conservative. not wante in power do to lose that power. i'm talking republicans as well as democrats. that's why they are fighting trump. host: kentucky. andy, what would you like to say this morning? caller: first of all, i would

like to thank you all for the job you do. i appreciate you all. my heart goes out to brett kavanaugh. i feel like the man is innocent, i feel like he's getting a raw deal. d don't feel like this ms. for is telling the truth. i feel like she's making this thing up. we need to pray for brett kavanaugh and president trump. president trump is doing the right thing. he's trying to clean washington up. we need to be praying that jeff sessions will step up to the plate and start helping out president trump. jeff sessions needs to do his with thelean house doj. host: let me ask you a question. you say you believe brett kavanaugh but don't believe christine ford.

why? how do you know? prolonging way she's when she wants to come and give her testimony and everything, keep prolonging, keep prolonging -- if she is telling the truth, she needs to go up there on monday and meet before the panel and tell her side. host: what do you make of her that any dayement next week seems rather arbitrary. what do you make of that? sent thisain, she letter to diane feinstein, she knew what was going to happen. either she's telling the truth or making this thing up and just wants to smear a good man.

to me, the democrats are probably behind it. i'm upset with the democratic they are upset that ms. clinton didn't win, the people voted and trump is the new president and we need to pray for him and all start working together. the democrats need to start changing their philosophy and being pro-life. that's why they are losing so much. host: the caller mentioning dianne feinstein. we showed you a bit of the interview that the wall street journal did with chuck grassley. here's a "new york times" story on dianne feinstein. in october 1991, dianne feinstein joined a silent crowd gathered around a tv in london

senateh an all-male law professorng about allegations that a supreme court nominee had sexually assaulted her. -- that's in "the new york times." there's a photo of dianne feinstein on the right from 1992 with barbara boxer. these hearings inspired her to run for office. --e's a small paragraph republican senators currently wary of attacking dr. ford

directly have piled on ms. .einstein that's in "the new york times." when calling from -- gwen calling from colorado. good morning. caller: good morning. i will start with a quote from ronald reagan. abortion hasis for already been born. i am a very pro-life person. just because it is a law, it is not morally right. pro-choice comes before you get pregnant. so many young people are using this as a means of birth control. i've worked in the pro-life movement since roe v. wade. the people who say i'm pro-choice but i would never do it have put something on the

person -- you're giving them permission. it haunts these women either a day later, two months, but eventually haunts every woman who's had an abortion. they have killed their child. i wish the law could be reversed. i wish if it didn't, people would think about not having an abortion. more responsibility comes before you get pregnant. host: elaine in henderson, minnesota. caller: hi. good morning. glad to hear you. i watch you conveniently every morning. number one, our president, i cannot believe the stuff he spews out of his mouth and puts on twitter. he's questioning the credibility of dr. ford. he has no clue what it's like. i have been there, i have yet to

tell anybody, and it happened to me in 1958. it is something that is not easily spoken of. can'tond statement is why the republicans and democrats understand -- they say he's been investigated by the fbi six times. but, not for this allegation. can't they get that through their head? there's a new allegation. what is the rush? why can't they let the fbi look into this allegation? if it's true, then do something. if it isn't, we learn from it. but, give the woman a fighting chance. i understand where she's at. unless you've been in her situation, you will never understand the feelings she has. texas.atty, houston,

good morning. caller: good morning. i've been hearing a lot of this about women -- i've been a victim of victim also. tried to rape me and i was scared to tell my mom until i got older because i was scared he was going to do something. i know she would not have done that. she was afraid. when president obama, they cut him off and he was a republican and he was going to do what was right. mitch mcconnell talking about he will be confirmed. they are going to confirm him and everything and do not