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Kellyanne Conway Interview at Atlantic Festival CSPAN October 3, 2018 12:30am-1:02am EDT
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about getting a movie made or series, she said she wouldn't know where to start. i asked to help. people, including my longtime friend, steven spielberg >>. now you are just name dropping. -- >> now you are just name dropping. >> i said there is this fabulous book about the fight to pass him first, it takes place in nashville in 1920. i said i think it would be a great movie series. he said we will read it. they loved it. we will be working on that. i'm very excited about it. sosecretary claim, thank you much for just -- secretary clinton, thank you so much for joining us. >> this is a great space.
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>> i don't know what has everybody so unhappy. i did not make a decision to reveal that, it just sort of happened. i can just tell you that that was newly revealed publicly, but not newly revealed where it matters. said, i will repeat myself. have great empathy for victims of sexual assault, sexual harassment, rape, and the like. i wanted everybody to hear the full sentence.
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i said i am a victim but i don't hold responsible brett kavanaugh. i don't hold anybody responsible. the people who should be held responsible are the perpetrators. and we are at a time when we are conflating too many things at once. we are at several cultural moments altogether. i tried to make is we cannot judge people's harm or grief for impact or experiences based on their politics. because i worked for president trump. brett kavanaugh was nominated by president trump. you have to really think through that. look through their partisan lenses at fundamentally nonpolitical, nonpartisan issues. that is where the trouble begins. i happen to work at the white house on any number of issues.
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but several of them i can legitimately say are not partisan issues, striving for an increasingly finding a partisan solutions. that you, just by nature of fact, are one of the best pollsters in the country. you suck things that donald trump before anybody else did. before anyodbody else did. jeff goldberg asked hillary clinton if this was the beginning of a battle between genders. her answer was not quite. from your experience, do you sense and inflection point about women's rights and women's place in our society? >> in 2016, i think many women in the country decided that they would like to vote for a female president someday, just not that one at that time.
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women said she shares my gender, but maybe not my position on the issues or my values. big gendervery moment in this country, to have a majority of the electorate be female, and for a very prominent 110% name identification i think. first secretary of state, first lady of arkansas, to not prevail in the election. i think there were other womenons about gender and that don't rights to the heart of why i work in this white house and continue to. even though a lot of the men are gone. some are still there. >> anymore about to leave? >> no idea, you have to ask them. i don't pay much attention. i won't go there.
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you have to look at the way women are helped were harmed by policies as well. and this is why i the white house. -- am in the white house. for me, it does matter that we got a new trade deal. i grew up with the forgotten man or forgotten woman. i consider myself to be amongst them as a matter of my birth or operating. this will help people who are in manufacturing or farming. i worked on a farm myself. it will help those in the garrett farm's, it will help a modernized version of previous trade agreements. not getting too far into those details. countryravel across the , i have no idea what people's politics are. i have no idea if they are registered to vote, how they voted. need, seeee people in
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them truly, physically and emotionally suffering. i feel like voting is the last thing on their mind. but i have to make good of the promises that trump made to this country. would be the he president for all americans, including those who did not support him. and he ad-libbed that there are more than a few of you. we have to make good on that, that is what public service entails. i'm happy to report on that issue. we just got bipartisan legislation passed in the senate 99-1 d largest one-piece of legislation on anyone crisis. helpful in aously town where nothing passes -one. -- 99-1. that will eventually reach the president's desk and he will sign it.
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and that follows billions in new funding, 1.2 billion last year. as well as with the opioid crisis. so the resources are adding up, and with resources, you must add respect. see that with veterans of the military. this is no longer somebody else's kid or community, some else's campus, co-worker. the problem has seeped into every corner in our country. congratulations on that legislation. >> he will sign the bill. >> we talked about the hidden trump above are out there, you talked about the president being a present for all americans. i spoke to a friend earlier who asked earnestly that, in the past, every president has tried to be the president are all but
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does not seem like president trump is there and has given up. you see that differently, but how do you think we can bridge these worlds? there seem to be two different americans who do not know each other. to bridgee doing these world so that a prospect of a presidency for all americans becomes a real? -- becomes real? >> some don't want to see him as president, us to be there. that is very clear. i don't know if we have ever had this many people refusing to accept an election results and see how they can help. i'm always amazed. and lots of folks who supported somebody else in the republican primary supported secretary clinton in the general have helped. they have come forward and said i want to be involved, what can i do?
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but you are asking a question that cannot be answered by somebody who tries to genuinely understand people whose opinions differ from mine. that peoplegnizes may have different opinions and different agendas that this president, no doubt. but we are one america. to, but if not want anybody here can't deny that , that million americans the wages are the highest they have been collected the unemployment levels are the lowest. the only time we cover the economy writ large is what people go down, that is a terrible way of covering the economy him and a new way. we do have the lowest unemployment rates amongst african-americans and hispanics, 75 year low rates amongst women,
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amongst veterans, the disabled, teenagers. we have a boom economy, and everybody should be happy. we do not run around saying "did you vote for donald trump? we will reopen this factory based on your politics. " the prosperity and the peace that we have here. every government, the president, vice president, everybody is in charge of such things and has to be right 100% of the time. the tariffs have to be right. god, theat, thank absence of the awful. people do feel safer, they feel more prosperous. this president has received dozens and dozens of leaders the white house.
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i love washington, but is it a place that can be taken over by force. and it is. there is some value that some things were not working well. i know you are a counselor to the president. and you present such a meet and linear organized package of what donald trump is. [laughter] so at odds with what we hear.
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oddssident who is so at with many things. how do you see your role in the white house? at youpeople look helping to rationalize something that we know is chaotic. how do you do this? it is such a personal thing. i think you do a great job, but around this, in terms of the president on any number of issues on his evolving views. how do you see your role in all of that? >> first of all, i disagree with the. -- thet description of himhat. description of him as that. he is chaotic?
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>> no. >> he is a great boss. he listens to your opinions. -- has a diverse group of people with different ideas of backgrounds. he has got people entree to disagree, people on immigration who is agreed. -- disagree. this publicly, that he listens, that he has a diversity of viewpoints. but he is the one who was elected to execute the agenda. toebody who recently came work said that the number one thing that they said is so different in working there. they said they believe that it is so chaotic, everybody is running around. , the west wing, as those of you who have worked their know it is a relatively
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small place. and if you don't have the collaboration and cooperation in camaraderie, things won't get done. i think in many ways, there is a disconnection between what americans say is important to them and what they feel is important to them. and the question, are you better off economically, what we hear from people, i feel like i have job security, and now people feel like they have job mobility. there are 6.7 million available jobs. you have opportunities. we've seen an explosion in manufacturing, mining, many industries that were flatlined if not failing for a couple of years. and he has put an emphasis, as vice president pence did when he
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was governor of indiana, on vocational and educational opportunities so that if you want to graduate high school and have a skill certificate and go support yourself the next day or the next month as a welder, mechanic, plumber, hair dresser, many people who i grew up with that wonderful careers and were able to support themselves without college and law school debt. host: you've been a republican for along time, right? kellyanne: sure. host: i'm just so not used to republicans endorsing industrial policy, because it is industrial policy. democrats embrace the word but president has embraced it -- but president trump has embraced it wholeheartedly. you find it odd that it was a major shift? kellyanne: going back to the hidden trump voter, that was a big part of it. the president would go and see
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these of blighted storefronts and these closed storefronts and these shuttered factories, and president trump says, the people who told me that i had the same job as my father and my grandfather and those were at legacy and no they're gone now, he listened to that. the reason that i named them the hidden trump voter in 2016, i had just joined the campaign. i said the hidden trump voter to international derision and -- derision and ridicule. thank you. that's ok. they are there. usually, a pollster will say steve will benefit from the hidden vote and steve's vote is still dependent on election day, this is real, because what made them hidden is that they didn't want to come forward and say they would vote for donald trump, it is that they had not voted in that way, or had not voted all in a long time. and they just didn't look the type.
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if you will stereotype people according to their gender, their race, their socioeconomic status, their marital status or whether they had children at home, or their education, and it's a terrible way to look in america. slicing and dicing us according to our immutable characteristics , it is an ok way to try and look at the future of our electorate, but it is increasingly a limited way of predicting. choicesyou also make what you choose to do with your , spare time, with their extra money, where you choose to live. people are choosing where to live now more than ever before, so those lifestyle choices have to be right, whether you choose to marry or not, whether you choose to have children are not. these lifestyle choices become as important as predictive modeling of your immutable characteristics. here you had union members, women, young people saying i'm going to vote for him, it so it
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wasn't just people who are registered democrats are independents or republicans who had not voted for a long time. so they are no longer hidden but they are there. and when you say trump is only playing to his base, that is not true. you can't be the president and -- and acting policies that benefit some many people and say you are playing to the base. deregulation has benefited many people, smarter regulation, getting rid of duplicative legislation. we hear from business owners all over the country, i was going to close down, we were dead on our backs, and now we are expanding. people who are reinvesting in the workforce and workplace. i will say isace that, i know people got the election room, but people still get him wrong. you believe no idea that a person close to the white house,
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somebody familiar with their thinking is usually the sourcing. if you are going to believe that then you fail to see that every time the president said you can't do x, the world will fall apart tomorrow, you can't keep the promise of five presidents and move the embassy to jerusalem, recognize the capital of jerusalem, and he does it anyway. you can't pull out of the iran nuclear deal, it would be a disaster, and he does it anyway. you can go from 35 percent corporate tax to 21% corporate tax because the corporations will stuff the money into their pockets, and so many have reinvested it into their workforce and their local communities, so when you are told you can't, and you won't, it is ridiculous, so many times and you do it anyway, and you see so much success for a lot of americans, it sort of heartens you. to try and do even more. host: i would love to debate and talk for hours, so many issues you have talked out.
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one of the themes that has come up all morning, and all day, there seems to be this pining to get back to this empathy across islands, to get back to a civility to raise questions. and whether it was conscious or unconscious, one of the frames you brought on early on about alternative fact help treat the sense that there were two gravities, two worlds. do you regret that framing? and in terms of healing and getting people back in the next two years, what kind of positive agenda items will the trump administration put on to basically not have alternate fax -- facts but bring people back to a common understanding of things? kellyanne: a lot of people used that phrase for their own purposes and that's regrettable. everybody knows, i meant additional information when i said alternative facts, but people will continue to write that because it's a narrative. -- because they want to. if it's the narrative. i hear people on tv constantly,
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and i'm starting to screenshot it and take note of it, and they consciously say two things can be right at the same time. it,increasingly, they say by the way. alternative facts meeting alternative information and additional facts. and all i meant by that, even though you may not want to cover it, i gave 39 minutes worth of the free, sunday show network news shows that day. you should go watch the interviews, but people don't want to do that because they don't want me to be on tv. they say, don't have her on anymore, and i have standing invitations, because they know i'm effective and accessible and i don't speak with marbles in my mouth like some others do. but moving on from that, the day before they were talking about inaugural crowds and in the interviews i made the point that, it's not an exciting topic. i think presidents are judged by the record and he just got here,
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he just got sworn in. they will be judged by whether we are more peaceful, or more prosperous, that's usually the benchmark. the people are watching it on the screens. people are getting the information, people didn't just all show up at they were watching the inauguration, and somebody who ran a major sporting event recently said to me, we had the largest audience ever recently, but we had fewer people in the stadium because you can only fit so many. but people use that for their own purposes and they should look at the full body of my work and try to reduce me to one phrase. and they try to pretend they are being empathetic and they would love to get back to civility and reach across the aisle. i'm known as being much more nice to people than they are to me, and i'm good with that. >> the point is, you have done now and are making progress. many different issues.
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years, whatxt two could be on the table that would be great bipartisan successes, or the administration getting bipartisan support? that gets just the place where we see the world the same? kellyanne: you mentioned the drug crisis and that means bipartisan support. i'm so happy democrats in the house and senate that don't want president trump to get the victory voted for it. they see the needs in their own communities. opportunities. the president is part of his tax package and knows that 52 million live in economically-distressed communities, so there are a number of specific initiatives, he is working with senators jim scott and cory booker last time i checked, on it, and i think treasury is finalizing a rule. technically speaking, but that is big. jared kushner and the president and others are working on prison reform, different than our criminal justice reform, but
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prison reform. that is a bipartisan issue. if you have paid your debt to society. prison reform is different than sentencing reform, but if you have paid your debt to society for nonviolent crimes, and ever -- everybody has said you are eligible and ready for reentry, but just like with the drugs, you have to make sure the government approach is treating all person, and the whole person is looking for a job, looking for housing opportunities, made -- maybe once -- wants to get a degree or get a high school degree or a college degree or get a new skill set. so patting ourselves on the back as a country and checking the boxes and say, we got that person into a drug program a release them from prison, there is much more that has to go into that, and will, but again, even with my blurted out revelation on sunday, people were pointing out to me, plenty of people are very nice, some said they wanted
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to tell their story in their own my own voice but a lot of people , weren't nice because they don't want me are someone who works with donald trump to have any part of humanity or humility, both of which i possess. they just don't, and you know it. go and read it. you read it and then you look away. but i'm not in the white house to read about myself, and i pray for this people because i have no idea what could possibly make people so negative and acerbic toward a stranger because we disagree. they can chuckle all they want but winning is finished a lot of sentences and solve a lot of problems. host: i'm grateful on behalf of the atlantic festival that you came to spend time with us today. ladies and gentlemen, kellyanne conway. >> thanks so much. coming up live on wednesday, a senate hearing on the trump administration of nominee or census bureau director and a
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seat on the postal regulatory commission. on the p.m., a hearing process used by the u.s. olympic committee to protect olympic athletes from abuse. at 7 p.m., tim kaine and republican challenger corey stewart take part in their second town hall debate. on c-span2, the set comes in at 10 a.m. for more debate on brett kavanaugh's nomination. on the nomination have been delayed until and the investigation into sexual assault allegations is complete. and there is a hearing on c-span three at 10 a.m. on a system to prevent train accident called positive train control. day two of the festival continues in the afternoon at 2 p.m., including former secretary of state john kerry and senate judiciary committee member kamala harris of california. the c-span buses traveling
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across the country on our 50 capital stored. we recently stopped in springfield, illinois, and looking forward to the november elections. we are asking folks which party should control congress and why? that shouldhe party confer congress is the democrats, because it is obvious that we needed some checks and balances on what is going on in washing -- washington. there is just so much contrary i thinki believe, so that with the democrats controlled congress, that will definitely bring some checks and balances to the process which is much needed. >> i would like to see the republicans retain control of congress in both chambers. because, as a donald trump supporter, i think that the republican party is going to do a better job of advancing his agenda. whereas the democratic party is going to obstruct him.
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keep it read. -- red. >> i want women to control congress. i'm tired of people who do not live my life telling me what i have to do. we need more women in congress, as the president, in our senate. state and federal. >> i think that it would be bad for the country if impeachment proceedings failed. because they will initiate if the democrats control the house. either we would like to see a sweeping the democratic victory to get an impeachment. or to fall that threshold below the house and the republicans keep the house representative's there is no impeachment at all. so they can have that albatross hangover the countries had -- country's head. that would be bad.
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