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and overseas military action since september 11, 2001. we take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal is next. ♪ host: good morning. it is monday, november 19, 2018. the house and senate are away for the thanksgiving holiday. we are with you for the next three hours and we begin the day startedd started -- a&e airing its clinton series. the scandal that broke 20 years ago. we are opening our phones to hear your view on the clinton-lewinsky affair as you look back on it today. by age this morning.

if you are under 30 years old, 202-748-8000 is the number. if you are 30 to 60 years old, 202-748-8001. if you are over 60 years old, 202-748-8002. you can also catch up with us on social media. on twitter it is @cspanwj. on facebook it is facebook.com/cspan. a very good monday morning to you, you can start calling in now as we begin by showing you a clip from last night's episode of "the clinton affair." [video clip] >> i don't talk about this often and i still feel uncomfortable because i think it is one of those things as if it did not register to me he was the president. i think in one way, the moment we were actually in the back office for the first time, the truth is i think it meant more to me that someone who other people desired desired me. however wrong it was, however

misguided for who i was in that very moment at 22 years old, that was how it felt. host: we will be talking about it this morning and want to hear your view of the clinton-lewinsky affair. here are some headlines albany about that a&e documentary. monica lewinsky is finally having her moment. did the guardian, overseas headlines, monica lewinsky revisits scandal on her own terms. she opened up about her relationship with bill clinton in 20 hours of interviews. last week in an article she wrote for vanity fair, she talked about why she participated in these interviews with a&e. here is what she wrote in a column. why did i choose to participate? one main reason, because i could. women have been introduced and

silenced. it is owned -- our time to tell our stories in our own words print i hope that by participating i can help ensure what happened to me never happens to another young person in our country again. that is monica lewinsky in vanity fair. we want to hear your thoughts on the clinton-lewinsky affairs. phone lines split up by age. if your under 30, 202-748-8000 is the number. if you are 30 to 60 years old, 202-748-8001. if you are over 60 years old, 202-748-8002 is that number. as you are calling in, we want to keep you updated as we have been doing since election day on the uncalled races. the senate race in florida is over. bill nelson concedes to rick scott after florida -- a florida recount deadline passes in that

race. the totals from the election scott up bys, rick 12,562 votes on election night after two different recounts, a manual recount and a machine recount. -- rick scott will be taking over that senate say -- senate seat in florida after a weekend in which we saw the races end in the gubernatorial race in florida. ron desantis will take the governor's office. stacey abrams conceding her race in georgia to brian kemp. just a handful of races left in the house left uncalled. democrats have 232 seats in the house to republicans' 195. five races left uncalled. in texas, in utah, two in new york. republicans ahead in four of

those five races. we will keep updating you on those races as results come in. we are working on two weeks since election day. your view of the clinton-lewinsky affair. john is first from houston texas on the line for those over 60 years old. good morning. caller: i was born in 1955. i think that -- i think what president clinton did was not very good and as far as monica -- i cani think understand how she feels and i can imagine how those women accused -- who accused drunk feel.- who accused trump

i think this idea of -- betsy devos is going to let these guys who attack women in these colleges go scot-free. i think it is horrible they will change the rules. long time has been a and i am glad to see monica is moving on with her life and doing pretty well, evidently. host: john on the line for those over 60. robert on the line for those under 30 in baltimore, maryland. caller: hello, how are you doing? this is my thing about monica lewinsky, it happened a long time ago and that is one of the reasons why hillary clinton -- host: are you still with us? in beth any, jeff connecticut on the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. caller: yes. i am on the air? host: go ahead, jeff. caller: i think it is remarkable

the transformation monica lewinsky has made and the fact that she kept her name is quite remarkable as well. you can imagine she probably could have forgotten about this whole thing a lot more easily if she did not do that. i think that is an important aspect, definitely. two --are comparing the if this had occurred, the affair. if that had occurred in present pose this question, how would it be different? i have heard some people's opinions. host: how do you think it would be different? caller: what is that? host: how do you think it would be different? --ler: hopefully it would

hopefully it would not happen in the first place. host: that is jeff in connecticut. rosa in georgia. go ahead. you, c-span. thank you for taking my call. think she wasnd i just a young girl. she was 22 years old and caught so onall of the power and around her and the attraction power has for young people. i don't see that as anything unusual. i think it could happen today and it will continue to happen. it is the nature of the human being. i am glad she lived through that and hopefully she learned from it and she has matured some. i did not see the interview, but

i think she stands to gain certainly financially from it. i think she has grown up some and i hope that our country will learn something even now. it seems we are on a slippery slope, which is very unfortunately, morally we are slipping. i pray for our nation. thank you for taking my call. host: that column in vanity fair not the first time michael linsky has written for that -- monica lewinsky has written for that publication. she wrote back in march talking about the me too movement. she wrote in that piece "he was my boss. he was the most powerful man on the planet. he was 27 years my senior with enough life experience to know better. he was at the pinnacle of his career while i was in my first job out of college. gravity --bt of credited -- gratitude to the me

too -- when it comes to sexual harassment and the abuse of power." monica lewinsky writing multiple columns for vanity fair and sitting for 20 hours of interviews for this a&e series "the clinton affair" that came out yesterday. it is a 6 part docuseries. mike in south carolina on the line for those over 60 years old. go ahead. caller: yes, i am not sure when she says she hopes this would prevent this from happening to anyone like her in the future. i am not sure how that would occur. starstruckeems to be says sheand while she recognized he was in a power

position and all of this, i am not sure that affects what she says today because he took total advantage of her in the position she was in and that continues to happen today as we find through the me too movement and i am sure the me too movement and her stop it.isn't going to it will continue to happen in the future. host: donna up next on the line for those under 30 years old. caller: i am very concerned about what this is doing to the young ladies and what it is doing to the clinton family. it, i think this lady began maybe i am wrong, but i recall the look on his face when he was shot. i could see the look on his face

when she grabbed his neck on the white house steps. i don't think she was raised very well. if she was, she is a no account person and i happen to believe we are making her out to be something she is not. i was taught you leave married men alone. you don't do such a thing. i think there is not much out when you look at it other than the people who decide they don't like clinton. i have a daughter. i would not want that, but i would pray to god that i raised her that she would not go after a married man, first of all. this man had a family, had a child. she was 22 years old. girls, women, they all get married young. they don't all go out and become nothing but whores. i don't believe that was the

first time she messed up a marriage before. she is good at that and also good at collecting money for ist she is doing and this disgusting, i believe, that we take this lady on and allow her to look like someone else. host: are you going to watch any part of this a&e docuseries? caller: i absolutely will not. it is a moneymaking thing for her and i think it is disgusting. what do we expect our children to be like when we allow this kind of lady to say we blame him for it. no, you blame both of them. more than anything, i watched her go after him to start with. immediately, you could tell she did not care the man was married. in anearlier this fall show,iew with the today bill clinton was asked about his

view on monica lewinsky and what took place between the two of them. [video clip] >> looking back what happened through the lens of me too, do you think differently or feel more responsibility? no, >> i felt terrible then and i came to terms with it. nobody believed that i got out of that for free. $16ft the white house million in debt. typically have ignored thisg facts in describing and i bet you don't even know them. this was litigated two thirds ago -- years ago and two thirds united states believed it was me. i have two women chief of staff -- women were overrepresented in in the -- in the attorney

general's department in the 1970's. i had had nothing but women leaders in my office since i left. you are giving one side and omitting facts. >> i am not trying to present a side. >> you asked me if i agree and the answer is i do not. i dealt with it 20 years ago plus and the american people -- to start -- two thirds of them stayed with me and i tried to do a good job since then with my life and my work. that is all i have to say. dana in a column in al.com writes this piece about lessons learned for monica lewinsky, that is the headline. she writes, at 45, i can feel how incredibly young 22 is. i can appreciate the power and between aat exists man and a woman at that age and the leader of the free world who

happens to be 27 years her senior. both acknowledge the affair was consensual, but the older i get, bill clintonlieve had a greater responsibly to act with wisdom and integrity and failed us all, including a woman young enough to be his daughter. your view of the clinton-lewinsky affair today. if you are under 30 years old, 202-748-8000. 60-748-8001 if you are 30 to years old and if you are over 60, 202-748-8002. connie in zephyrhills, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. my opinion is i agree with that post you just read. it all lies on bill clinton. he was a dirty dog and i believe he still is a dirty dog. i would never vote for hillary clinton because i agree with michelle obama and what she stated in the 2008 presidential

election. if a woman cannot take care of her home and demand respect, there is no way she will demand respect from world leaders who are mostly male. she should have divorced him and been long gone like the woman married to mark sanford. as soon as she found out of that home, she was gone and took her kids with her. i have no respect for hillary and for the woman who called from ohio, she did not sound under 30, number one and number two, it is so old-fashioned to blame the woman. it was a total in balance of power and the man has the responsibility to say no. there may have been a young woman interested, but he had a track record of being a philanthropist and womanizer or whatever you want to call it. he had many accusers and i believe all of them. i believe donald trump's

accusers as well. host: stan in maryland, go ahead. caller: yes, sir. a 20nk bill -- i have tweet -- 22-year-old son. i have nieces getting ready to turn 12. i am 55. you see them grow up so quickly. this guy is president of the united states. president of the united states and this girl was 21 years old, 21, 22. she is still a kid. how can people not see this? this was heinous. this was a heinous crime. this was rape. i don't know what else you would call it. i want to interject one more thing. i have watched "washington journal" for years now and i

have heard it accused of being -- leaning to the left. why don't all you guys, the young lady and everybody, why don't you put your party affiliations online for all of us to see? if you are all in the same party, that might support people who accuse you guys of leaning one way -- one way. host: stan in maryland. janice in missouri for those of those -- for those of you over 60 years old. caller: i remember all of this and i think bill is a dirty dog. i think monica has some responsibility because she .asn't 12 years old she was clearly starstruck. everyone was so in love with bill clinton. who wouldn't be overwhelmed by all of that? the one thing i want people to think about is this, monica is

45 now? she is still not married. who is going to marry monica lewinsky? she is never going to have kids. don'teople want that -- i believe if she does, but this is something she has to live with the rest of her life and how all turned onsts have her, that is something else for you all to think about. one of your early callers brought up betsy devos and said she will let these men run wild and rape women on campuses, that is not what is going to happen. she will give the men a fair chance of being heard instead of being accused of having their lives ruined without any due process, the same due process we gave to michael avenatti should get -- should be given to the men accused of rape. that is just ridiculous. host: that is janice in missouri . connie from florida brought up hillary clinton.

hillary clinton was on cbs last month and talked about her view of the lewinsky affair. here is what she had to say. [video clip] >> when you support women now running with their stories of sexual assault front and center, does it make it more difficult to be forward as a supporter when you have not contended fully with the accusers in your own life? >> no because there was the most intense comprehensive investigation. people forget that and i don't. i remember it clearly. thinkretrospect, do you president clinton should have resigned in the 1990's in the wake of the monica lewinsky scandal? >> absolutely not. >> so it wasn't an abuse of power? >> no. >> you do not believe he should have resigned? >> no. >> how do you contend with members of your own party saying he should have? >> that is their opinion, but

they were not in the middle of it. host: having this conversation after the first episodes of the "clinton affair" aired on a&e last night. it is based in part on 20 hours of interviews with monica lewinsky. phone lines split up by age. if you are under 30 years old, 202-748-8000. if you are 30 to 60 years old, 202-748-8001. if you are over 60 years old, 202-748-8002. you can also catch up with us on social media. here is a few facebook posts and tweets. dennis says it is another example of how the left will hold someone accountable for actions years ago and turned a blind eye to the same actions of one of their own. -- saying it is a private misconduct that should not be used politically to the advantage of any party. teve saying consenting adults' poor choices have no place in

the political dialogue. one viewer sang i did not care then or now. on the line for those between 30 and 60, good morning. caller: i just wanted to say i am a rape survivor. i was tortured. it was bad. i have been in situations where i have been come onto from bosses and so forth. i am 54 years old. this happened over 20 years ago. we do not need to keep discussing this. it happened, but she is making a lot of money on it. it happens tond men as well, that have been through the trauma and live with the ptsd day in and day out, this shuts us down and makes us look trivial and bad and here she is making money off of it and everything else and the people that have stories to tell, nobody wants to listen.

they kind of throw it out there. it's all over the news about --s trivial stuff and now the women that need to be heard are not being heard the way they should be. host: why do you think nobody wants to listen to those stories today? caller: it is not that they don't want to listen. people get so caught up in the smaller stories. for people that are truly , it takes away from that because i have known women that -- i have daughters. they have never done that -- they will sit and say, some guy did this or try to cop a feel for this or that. they are making up stories for whatever reason whether it is a work situation or whatever and

she is making a lot of money on this right now. she is not really telling the true story of how it feels to be so violated that you wonder how you are going to survive, when allhave to check your locks the time and these different things. that is not happening to her, she got paid out $1 million. yet the women that live with it day in and day out, it is sad and it happens everywhere. many, it seems like they are devolving, becoming worse in a way than it was back then. in columbia maryland, the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. good morning. [no audio] are you with us? yellow go to john in springs, ohio, also on the line for those between 30 and 60. go ahead. caller: good morning.

i wanted to say thank you for washington journal and thank you for c-span. i think you guys do a wonderful job. what troubles me is that you guys have a segment on this worthless type subject. it is like the caller said. the bottom line is that this happened over 20 years ago. why aren't we talking about something that really matters today? we could be talking about the opioid epidemic or we could be talking about drugs that are to senior citizens or we could be talking about any number of things that are washington journal has really failed me this time because we are talking about stuff that happened 20 years ago between two adults. bill clinton was impeached for

it. the bottom line was that he lied to the american public and he said he did not have sex with that woman, ms. lewinsky and the bottom line is that he kept his a job even though he behaved -- we elected him twice, believed what his moral character was whenever we elected him and we know the same thing with our president today, the whole idea is that bad behavior does not keep these people from becoming elected and it is no longer relevant -- a relevant issue with bill clinton. john in ohio. billy in new mexico. go ahead. caller: hi. that you for everything you do and i do like c-span.

i do not like the clintons at all. i did not vote for them either hillary. do i like monica ione with disagree with 100% for the same in the ovals done office -- for the simple reason, it was done in the oval office. at least the kennedys kept it in their own house, in the presidential sweet -- presidential suite. therefore, that is why i am against it and i am glad monica is coming out and speaking about it and i am glad she is able to move on with her life because it was a tragedy for her and the country.

that is really my problem with all of it and i think they need to move on. host: you can keep calling on phone lines split up by age. if you are under 30, 202-748-8000. if you are 30 to 60, 202-748-8001. if you are over 60, 202-748-8002 . tell us your view about the clinton-lewinsky affair, having this conversation the morning after the first episodes of that new docuseries aired last night. coming up on 7:30 on the east coast, we want to keep you updated on other news around the country, other stories we have been tracking. the deadly wildfires in california, the campfire the deadliest in california history killed 76 people and destroyed almost 10,000 homes. president trump visiting california over the weekend.

president trump who had previously threatened to cut federal funding to california promised substantial funds in the wake of the fires that swept through the state. the governor saying the president signed a presidential declaration, but said and pledged specifically to continue to help us, that he has got our back and i thought that was a positive thing. the picture you are seeing, gavin newsom speaking with the president as they destroy -- toward one of those -- toured one of those destroyed neighborhoods. the picture behind them is paradise, california. talked about this wildfire story and some of the criticism the president received because of comments on twitter about cutting funds to california, one of those that was --criticism representing 30,000 firefighters and paramedics, he has a column

in today's usa today and talks about the strong reaction from many firefighters, the president's statements in the early stages of the camp fire. the president's first words were a 240 character twitter broadside that included a threat to withhold federal aid. he said -- i am pleased to say the president has fulfilled his mission, moving quickly on a major disaster declaration that brought critical firefighting aidts and eight to those -- to those affected by the fire. if you want to read that column, it is in today's usa today spirit -- today. speaking of president trump raising eyebrows for comment he made over the weekend in an interview with fox news, his criticism about bill mccrea the -- bill mccrea the, -- bill

mccraven, here is part of that interview from yesterday. [video clip] >> retired admiral, navy seal and former head of u.s. operations. president trump: hillary clinton fan. >> who led the operations -- command of the operations that took down osama -- saddam hussein and osama bin laden said your sentiment is the greatest threat to democracy. >> he is a hillary clinton bacher and an obama backer. >> he is a navy seal. >> wouldn't it have been nice if we got osama bin laden sooner than that? living beautifully in pakistan and i guess what they have considered a nice mansion. living in pakistan right next to the military academy. everyone knew he was there and we give pakistan $1.3 billion a year. >> you are not even going to give them credit for taking down

bin laden? >> they took him down, but there is news. he lived in pakistan. we are supporting pakistan, which we don't give them any more anyway. i ended it because they don't do a thing for us. host: the washington post story about that interview noting the president's comments escalated a war of words that began last year when mccraven -- mcraven went to bat defending john brennan after president trump provoked his security clearance. yesterday, mcraven released this statement to cnn with the first -- i did not back hillary clinton or anyone else. i am a fan of president obama and president george w. bush, both whom i worked for. i admire all presidents

regardless of their political party who uphold the dignity of the office and use that nation to bring the office -- that office to bring the nation together in challenging times print i stand by my, the president's attack on the media is the greatest attack on democracy -- threat to democracy in my lifetime. that is retired admiral bill mcraven. back to your comments this morning, having this conversation about your view of the clinton-lewinsky affair. our phone lines split up by age, having that conversation in the thatof that a&e miniseries aired last night. jonathan has been waiting on the line for those over 60. thank you for waiting. i think what we have going on is a lot of smoke screen. we have a lot of power play going on between republicans and democrats. i believe the lewinsky situation

was a plot put in the front row of clinton's speeches all the time. it was an incident to unfold so republicans had a strong accusations against bill. he did something wrong, but i believe it was a political power play that was put in effect. thanks. host: before you go, do you believe it happened? caller: excuse me? host: do you believe it happened? caller: do i believe it happened? it is like i am looking in the dark, i know it happened. i know it happened in the oval office. i also know it was a plot put in play. this is the mudslinging operations the government is getting involved in. strong power position each side wants to get into. we are talking a lot of money.

we are talking a lot of power. there is a lot of smoke screen going on. host: steve in woodbridge, connecticut, the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. suggestingwas just there that someone else had decided to throw in monica clinton in president order to engage in that affair? is that what the previous caller was just suggesting? host: we heard what he said, what do you think? caller: i think that is ridiculous. i would not say it is impossible. host: what do you think about the lewinsky-clinton affair today? what is your view on it today? --ler: i think it is really

i think it has come a long way but it still has a way to go. host: in south san francisco, the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. go ahead. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: i would like to say i feel sorry for her because he was the president and old enough to know better and i believe, yes, it happened. enough already, i don't need to hear about it anymore. what matters is we have a president today who is lying. host: donna in pennsylvania on the line for those between 30 and 60. good morning. caller: hi, john, how are you doing? host: doing well. caller: i am surprised that some of the female callers. i was a supporter of clinton. a bad jobthink he did

as president, but i really feel sorry for the -- for monica lewinsky in this day and age of me to add times up. we went through the blase ford sey-fordh -- bla kavanaugh hearings and i feel it is putting monica lewinsky who nowadays we call 22-year-olds babies. back then, she was an adult. believe me, i can picture her being starry eyed over the president of the united states being thrilled by her and i find some female callers are so heartless. women are supposed to stick together. i don't find that at all and it is a shame. host: this from the hill last week. brzezinski mika saying monica lewinsky deserved more sympathy from the media and the american public after her affair. in an interview with blair

foster, the director of that a&e brzezinskiinski -- said she could not imagine how monica managed to the backlash. i am sort of trying to think back to the women in the white house at the time and why wasn't there more sympathy? even i think from hillary clinton. it seems the whiskey was so young and to be put in that -- lewinsky was so young and to be , soin that position scared. caller: i do not feel bad for monica lewinsky. she knows what she was doing. she went all out of her way to get with the president's secretary to get to the -- ident and

what sherown and knows was doing. i don't feel side for them. i have been young and you don't feel sorry. host: you fault her, do you fault president clinton? [no audio] do you fault president clinton at all? caller: no, i felt her. lt her. he should not have even looked at her. she befriended the secretary to get to the president. they don't need to put it on bill, put it on the woman what caused it to happen. host: bob in nasa to sits, the line for those between 30 and 60. -- massachusetts, the line for

those between 30 and 60. caller: good morning. i don't think the clinton thing was that big of a deal. i am sorry to everybody in america and i feel bad for monica lewinsky. she a lot of people say, was an adult. bill clinton could have been more moral. he was our president and doing this stuff in the oval office. i don't think that is very cool. host: rachel with a comment on facebook read at that time, i thought it was an embarrassment. he was terribly flawed, but he was a good president in many areas. today i feel monica lewinsky was treated her rent a sleep -- was treated horrendous. -- was an adult and emotionally, she was not. there is no point excusing bad morals because i might see the current occupant of the white

house more immoral. in your comments on twitter and facebook as well as your phone calls. jim on the line for those between 30 and 60 from pennsylvania. go ahead. liker: i know it happened 20 years ago and i voted for bill clinton and i think he did a good job. he made a mistake being with a younger woman. we have to look at the president he --e now in the women they say he has of used. thank you. host: cc in atlanta georgia, the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. caller: good morning, c-span. good morning, america. i think that they are both at fault because she was an adult. 22, you are an adult. nowadays years of age

are may be more advanced because of the internet and other social media, but she was still an adult when this occurred. i agree with the caller from ohio. there was a previous affair while she was in college with one of her high school teachers who was married. thisas -- when all of occurred. they are both wrong just like the current president is wrong in his affairs. thank you, c-span. host: it was 20 hours of interviews monica lewinsky sat for for this a&e series. it is a 6 part series that aired last night. monica lewinsky disclosing several new details about her white house affair. one of the huffington post stories from last week noting monica lewinsky says no monti business happen inside the oval

office proper. we would talk and maybe flirt here or there, but no sexual activity happened in the office. encounter took place in clinton's personal office. there were always ways we talked about it, how do we be a -- feel careful. of course you are going to deny we were both cautious, but not cautious enough. host: the line for those over 60, go ahead. caller: i am 81 years old and i all those throwing trump in, whatever he did wrong while he was not in office, ok. these presidents like kennedy and clinton and roosevelt, they were all presidents at the time they were having affairs, so let's not bring in trump.

what he did was before he became president. if he does it now that he is president, that is one thing. i am more angry at hillary than i am with hill. -- bill. he finally admitted he was wrong. he has that indignant way about him. i can't stand her. all those people who want to throw in trump, go ahead. he had these affairs what ever if some of them were affairs before he became president. if he does it while he is president, that is a different thing. don't start connecting him with clinton. maine, the line for those over 60, go ahead. go ahead, sir. caller: yeah.

there are two books everybody should read. one is the biography of william jefferson clinton by -- i can't remember his name, it is the official biography told -- called "first in his class," and that gives a pretty good overview of the man's character, particularly when he became governor of arkansas. the other books to read is "crisis of character by gary something or other who was a stationedvice agent in the white house right outside the oval office and he pretty monica as a power groovy, somebody -- power groupy. they have compensating

personalities. i don't think anybody is innocent. i don't know why we are going over it again except maybe monica needs money. thank you for your time. class" wast in his an author who has been on c-span several times. the line for those between 30 and 60 years old, go ahead. caller: i just want to say that small lewinsky was a thing compared to everything else that bill clinton did. he raped other women and those were good books somebody just mentioned. also, there is stuff by dolly kyle, one of bill clinton's mistresses and i think this is very relevant to today. if hillary clinton is still

, iting to run for president think that would be a terrible thing because she knew all about what clinton was doing. host: ocean springs, mississippi, the line for those over 60 years old. caller: mississippi you can't get to over 60 years old. i am 90 years old and i knew military people in the military from arkansas that told me about the clintons and that bill clinton had the highway patrol picking up -- and bringing them to the governor's mansion, things like this. bill clinton and hillary clinton good for the united states of america and that is the way i feel about it and wanted to let the public know it. host: before you go, stay on the

line for a second. you are from mississippi and we have the runoff coming up in that last senate race we are waiting to see featuring cindy hyde-smith, the senator trying to fill the term of retired senator thad cochran against mike espey, what do you think of that race? republican since the president in 1970 and i left that blank because i did not like the way hide smith -- hyde-smith -- another man i wanted to run for the senate and 2008 when hel in had charges coming against the -- the administration

democrat party administration here in mississippi and the national party in washington. that hea deal then 2006,be the candidate in 2012 and that did not happen. he wanted to be the candidate in 2018 and that did not happen. he hasn't got anything he got promised out of the republican party. host: are you going to come out to vote next week in that runoff? prior -- probably higher than they had seen overseas then. -- travels all over the state here for a couple children's donationsand handles

trying to get -- promoting donations for children's hospitals, a well-respected man. host: are you going to vote next week? caller: that is all i have to say about it. host: that runoff taking place on november 27. president trump scheduled to head down to mississippi next week to campaign with republican cindy hyde-smith ahead of that november 27 vote. expected to hold a rally with her. back to your phone calls, about 10 minutes left in his first segment of the washington journal, talking about -- in this first segment of the washington journal, talking about your view of the monica lewinsky affair. a&e started releasing this docuseries about the affair.

deborah on the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. caller: i think there is a big difference between buyers .emorse and grape -- rape i think michael linsky had a definite -- monica lewinsky had a definite buyer's remorse that did not go the way she planned. i think that is the first thing going on with the first lady. she has buyers remorse and she is not sleeping with him now. in the me too movement, it is much more rape. you are calling out the people that do it. when it comes to hillary clinton, she could have called for respect for herself. if you are going to cheat on me, i am getting a divorce. why would you stay with somebody that would not respect you? host: one other tweet this

morning saying it was wrong then and it is wrong now and hillary vilified lewinsky, called her names and treated her husband like he was the victim. hillary is not the voice for any movement supporting women. we mentioned that vanity fair lewinskyiece monica wrote. who gets to live in victimville: why i participated in a docuseries reliving the clinton affair. if it helps another young person avoid being that woman, it is worth it. springfield, massachusetts on the line between those 30 and 60 years old. caller: a couple of years before this happened, bob was driven out of the u.s. senate for flirting with an intern on an elevator? i was working for the post

office at the time and the postmaster told me he would have itt his pension, his job, would have affected his military standing and bill clinton holding onto that office the way al gore lost the 2000 election. had he resigned, al gore would have been elected president in 2000. thank you. host: christine in new hampshire on the line for those over 60 years old. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: doing well. caller: the main thing it doesn't seem anybody is mentioning is one of the reasons hillary clinton lost the race is because any woman would have been nice, but not that woman. because she could not demand respect from her husband, she will not get respect from the women of the country and if she does, they ought to recheck their database because she needs to make sure her home is clean before she goes out to something else.

if she could not do it with her husband and family, how is she going to help the country? host: cynthia in florida, the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. good morning. caller: good morning. i see a lot of people are going in what you are asking about, the clinton-lewinsky affair. 20 years ago, things were handled different. it is handled now differently because of how the me too movement has came about. however, back to what happened 20 years ago with monica lewinsky and clinton was something that both of them were consensual adults. however, clinton was our president and should have handled himself accordingly. because of monica lewinsky being a female and attracting herself to him, he fell for it, which

was wrong. now i see her as trying to fall on the me too movement to continue to try to make money because she is broke. she needs to be quiet. she did not handle herself accordingly. a female have never did what she did and then want to talk about it and try to ruin the president's credibility. he was wrong, she was wrong, and it is still the same thing 20 years now. host: can i ask you about how monica lewinsky has been treated by the press over the years and your thought on that? there is a headline from the washington examiner, an opinion piece, monica lewinsky's criticism of the past for giving bill clinton credit all these years is spot on. what do you think? caller: i still think how she was treated by the press is one of the things -- she of io and

all that -- won on all that. she was not something should have brought to the media in the first place. she knew she was wrong. what was her motive for doing what she did? what was she planning to get from what she did. that i find is a problem. i feel she was manipulative. i feel she was conning. i feel bill clinton was wrong even though i voted for him, he was wrong in what he did. they have already handled that. it is over. right now, she is trying to get money. she is probably broke and now she is trying to get money by her book. i think that should be left alone and what happened 20 years ago, we handled it and it was over with. we cannot go back and try to

penalize other president to have done the same thing. we already know what most of them do. it is just that some of them tell and with this particular incident, i really feel i hope she doesn't get any money. i am not buying her book and i would not because i do not need to hear about what she did again at 20 years later. host: sue in ohio on the line for those between 30 and 60 years old. good -- go ahead. caller: good morning. at the time, i was very upset and the respect that our government is taking time to be involved in all that. i felt it was almost a crisis in -- teach the president not to have an extramarital affair. on a personal level, it is not a good thing. ist another person does

their business and if their isriage worked out, that fine. .onica lewinsky is a young girl a young girl in a position that i think what she -- she knew what she was getting into. he is probably really charming if you meet him in person. we know there are different roles for people who have power and people who have money. it is unfortunate that our government takes the time. we have real serious problems than worrying about if he is having an affair with somebody. it is not good, but that is something that should not be put through our legislative branch of government. think about it. if you are going to sit around thinkis almost insane to that americans are more worried about that than the fact that you don't have health care. havears ago we did not health care.

we don't have it now and we are going to talk about monica lewinsky's affair? shethey are consenting adults. thank you sir. john: that is soon in ohio. they are voting for an investigation on october 8, 1998. they vote to impeach president clinton, december 1998 the impeachment trial beginning in january of 1999. on senate acquitting clinton february 12, 1999. with a timeline of the clinton affair to go long -- along with the document being released. monica lewinsky sitting for hours of interviews. we are getting your thoughts on the affair. thesiana, the line for 30-60. caller: good morning.

incident i of the was working and my employer based on government laws sent me to training along with every employee regarding sexual harassment. the difference in the power levels of two people in an toanization was told to me be an inherent basis that the lower powered person could not voluntarily associate in the relationship. based on federal guidelines and laws. it bothers me these laws i was taught what was appropriate is not applied to the president. james'point. he lied to the american people. what you think of that?

caller: he did lie. but the lie was to cover up the action which is subsequent. i did not like the lying. but you start with the initial reaction -- the initial action did not meet with the federal government said i is a private ,itizen working for a company the standard i would be held to. it our government creates one standard for the citizens and our different system for themselves. like they have their own medical program. they have their own retirement. john: we will stay in louisiana. in baton rouge, on the line for those over 60. caller: good morning.

hello? john: your phone line. lines, we will continue to have this conversation. if you're under 30 (202) 60-8000, between 30 and (202) 748-8001, and over 60 (202) 748-8002. give us a call. give us your opinion of them up -- the lewinsky clinton affair. the line for those over 60, go ahead. recalling when i was starting college and the book someone gave me was called sex and the single girl. i think she was an editor at vanity fair or some big publication. it was about how you use your

sexuality to get ahead in the world and that is what monica was trying to do. and shouldhe culture not be that she is back, the whole country is bad. john: this is what monica lewinsky wrote in her column for victim orr last week, vixen, that is a question as old as time. madonna, predator or pray, is she telling the truth or lying. who will believe the isabel. it is debated about women in general and about me. it fascinates me. person who watches strangers discuss my own status at length and on social media. the person that the epicenter does not -- also has a say in

this classification. linda, michigan, the line for those between 30 and 60. caller: hi, my name is brenda. thank you for taking my call. this is a kickoff of the 2020 campaign. it is a slight of hand. read between the lines. what is the purpose of the book. i feel bad for her. and president clinton. he got distracted from what he needed to do. pay attention america. let us deal with the here and now and what we have in the white house. this is a sleight-of-hand at thank you for taking my culprit

-- my call. john: the docuseries that started, did you watch it? surprisedwould not be at the republicans and president trump paying for the investment of that book. it is a distraction people. pay attention. it serves no purpose, it is revisiting history. is in tablet, florida the line between those 30 and 60. caller: i felt like monica lewinsky was manipulative. she had an agenda. i have no empathy or sympathy for her. i know bill clinton was wrong. there's no excuse for what he

i feel like hillary was in face ofand by him the embarrassment caused her. inn: you're the last caller this first section of "washington journal", plenty more to discuss including the future of health care in america. we'll be joined by susan dentzer and later, boston university professor discussing a new report on the cost of the war on terror. we will be right back. ♪ announcer: tonight on the sec's role in the

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walls? concept that health care ought to move outside the classic and institutional we are familiar with. doctors offices and hospitals. it should move closer to people in their homes and communities, schools etc.. where people are living most of their lives. not all health care can do this. if you're in the terrible care accident you want to go to a trauma center. a lot of health care is not about that classic laying on of hands. is about exchanges of information. what the argue is health care ought to move the way the rest of society's move. we are comfortable exchanging information remotely over internet or phone. they're so much second move in that direction and people would

find it more convenient, it would be closer to where they are living their lives. we think it is the case it could be made less expensive than it is now. emedicine?s about tel is having a normal visit you would have with health care providers but in some remote fashion. over skype, that could be can tend -- considered telehealth. there are lots of other ways you could deliver care of remotely. virtual check-in's. they are another version of virtual care. emailing your physician. doch many will still not because they do not get paid for it. remote monitoring

devices, that you could put on to record your blood pressure and that information could be transmitted to your health care provider. that is part of what we are talking about. john: how far we from virtual care? years orcades? -- decades? percolatestarted to about the 1950's. back in the 1960's there was an arrangement struck between logan airport and massachusetts hospital for travelers. that was in the 1960's. some of us are old enough to remember the jetsons when they were consulting their physician because it was already possible to do that. what has happened is it has

taken a 60 years to take it vantage of technology. gotten much better, it is easier today, a lot of viewers are skiving their friends around the world. it is odd we have not been able to do that with our physicians. we have not figured out a way to do that quite yet. are splitphone lines up by how they get their health insurance. if you have employer health , ifrance (202) 748-8000 through the affordable care act (202) 748-8001, if you are uninsured (202) 748-8002 all others can: at -- call in at (202) 748-8003. we are having that discussion until 9 a.m.. jetsons,d about the

you said there is a joke that it delivers star wars medicine and they flintstone's delivery. explain that. susan: flintstones and that it is far behind the times. he was in a car that was blocks of stone rolling along. that is equivalent of what we are doing now. technologies, everybody who was listening in is going to physician's office waiting for long. a time to be seen by physicians. the health care system has been organized around an industrial model is not organized around the patient or customer. it is been organized to the convenience of health care providers. well and is not

have to be that way. not one to be completely hostage to the health care system. it is odd for many of us to say, how come i cannot have that conversation will a health care provider. americanm the telemedicine association, there are currently 200 telemedicine networks in the country, nearly a million americans get cardiac monitors. they delivered over 200,000 remote consultations using telemedicine and over half hospitals have some form of telemedicine. how does that compare to other countries and their use? susan: it depends on the country. there are countries that are smaller that have more centralized health care systems

that have gotten here faster. some of the scandinavian countries right now. being thef the matter uss state-of-the-art health care medicine and it is strange we have been so far behind on this pure aspect of how we deliver health care and what our expectations are. where people are going to be when we give it to them. john: questions about health the phone lines are split up by how you get insurance. through your employer (202) 748-8000, through the affordable care act (202) 748-8001 if you are uninsured (202) 748-8002, all others. susan is our guest. for networkd ceo for excellence in health and innovation.

susan: we are a national, groupfit, nonpartisan across all sectors of health care. , healthprovided systems companies,insurance pharmaceutical companies, patient groups and technology companies. to talkveryone together about how we can innovate more in health care. agree, but always they can often find common ground and meaningful solutions. john: why put this out now? susan: there will be enormous potential to make changes. one of the main areas of the country that the benefit from these approaches are rural areas

. every state has a rural area where people live either far way from providers, do not have them at all or may not have access to specialists. why would you not expect you could get online with the provider maybe three or four hours away to have a consultation. we have to make that happen. the barrier is the rest of the health care system. dakota, is that one of the rural areas? caller: yes. we have hospitals within 25 miles. everything she is saying is right. greed outto get the of medicine. there so much money. single-payer.o

sohave to get prices marked people know how much things cost. do, thee kavanaugh president is trying to bury this thing. and the killing of the guy, you're talking about morals, killing this guy is lowing -- lowering our morals. you guys are the platform, you should be putting out and looking into their eyes and take some of that blame. john: you bring up a lot of issues, we'll keep it on health care. you started talking about single-payer, is that something the network for excellence in health innovation has taken a position on? susan: we have not. there is an ability to get

greater efficiency out of the system and that is part of what we are talking about. but with respect to single-payer, we will point out the united states has the largest single-payer system in the world called the medicare program. john: in michigan. go ahead. problem relates to the financing of these things. a not-for-profit organization. blue cross and blue shield has but nowot-for-profit they have changed and there are no non-for profit organizations related to medicine. we have done away with that. back and make them non-for profit.

a lot of the blue cross blue shield plans remain not profit. some have converted to for profit. most remain not profit. we are not in that fight at the moment but we are talking about taking the money we spend already in this country and figure out a way to use the money in a different way. nothing happens in health care unless it is paid for. there are lots of rules around payment that have constricted the way care is provided. one example is physicians get paid for an office visit. they have not historically gotten paid for remote visit in many respects. we are talking about reorienting the payment system, the

regulations and other issues to make this possible. recommendationhe , if you could have a virtual consultation go to the local .ospital to have the surgery how do you figure out how much you owe each of those customer those -- those? make: there are many who those decisions about what gets a four. if you think about the medicare -- this isicare on what isegulation allowed to be paid for. medicare has taken steps to pay for some of these things. they announced next year they will pay physicians to do virtual check ends.

if you have artie had surgery, you have to do a quick check in with your doctor. instead of going to the doctor's office you'll be a do that virtually. the doctor will get pay for that. john: the doctor should be paid the same for one of the virtual check ends as opposed to an in office visit where they can conduct whenever they need to? susan: most people recognize the doctor is under pressure to see patients. even if you go in for visit it could be -- we have this pretense that an person is better and virtual will be inferior. the evidence does not show that. for example, a large national study done of consultations with people with parkinson's where they have an person visits but

also virtual visits so they vastly are for the virtual visits to the in person. if you have parkinson's, it is a pain to walk. office,rd to get to the a caretaker has to take you. or you can stay in your home and have a consultation. if they are remote, they could be as fulfilling for patients and providers. is there any estimate, fl health care without walls is instituted, how much that will save in the system? susan: it is impossible to make the calculation. what we're arguing is there is a lot of money in the system. we do not think it would cost more to do this. it would be lots of savings. it is thinking about who benefits from the system? payingot a question of providers differently, think of

the cost and productivity of people driving to doctors offices and spending an hour or so finding parking and sitting in waiting rooms. the university of virginia has been doing telemedicine across dozens of specialties for a long time. they calculated they have saved patients 17 million miles of --ving by virtue of the fact we do not think about the cost for everybody else in the system. thinking about away to streamline all of that and capture those efficiencies is an important part. conversation,a the network of excellence in human innovation. if you want to check her out online. our call from california. i got my premiums for

january for me and my wife, it is over $2000 a month. we make $74,000 a year. we are going broke. in january, one of us will have insurance and the other will not as we cannot afford it. it was only $375 a month. 2012 it went to $750 a month. this yearrs progress, we are paying over $20,000 for insurance. we cannot afford it. john: how are you going to make a decision? susan: we artie made it. i will not have insurance. we are ready it, i will not have insurance. more than 80% of those

buy coverage through the affordable care act exchanges are eligible for subsidies. many are not. we have this expensive health care system. in addition to being ridiculously expensive, it is inconvenient for many. we are arguing, there are better ways to deal with this. one important piece is expanding the workforce that we allowed to do certain aspects of health care. states license health care professionals and license them in many instances differently. if there are nurse practitioners who can do things in some states and cannot and other states. by expanding the ability of health care professionals to work to the top of their licenses, we can bring more people into providing health care and lower the price and make it more convenient.

debt is another important part of the recommendations we issue. john: other states that do not allow doctors to do virtual health care from other states? could someone from california give a consultation to someone in maine or hawaii? susan: if you are in the state and a license as a physician in that state, if you provide telemedicine into another state you have to get a license in that state as well. about half the states have signed on to an interstate compact where if you are licensed in north dakota and want to do telemedicine into south dakota we will help you get an expedited license. but only half the states have signed onto that which means positions want to do interstate telemedicine or telehealth have to go through the process of getting licenses.

nurses have made that easier but doctors in about half the states are try to protect their turf. are the international compacts? susan: no. not that there is not international telehealth and telemedicine, because they're most likely is. it is not likely to be reimbursed officially in the united states. john: in louisiana, good morning. caller: good morning. ask, do you think health care be addressed by congress? all i could get, was they want to subpoena and investigations and do not seem to have health care on their agenda. on duringhat to run

the midterm, but i heard more of let us do the investigations and subpoenas, and destroyed trump. let us drag up every bad thing they could. having healthhem care as a main i think health care is actually very high on the agenda, especially for the democrats who are now in control of the house of representatives. actually, there is i bipartisan core of people in the senate, also, want to see some changes for example, with the obamacare act. a desire to continue to stabilize the health insurance market. in particular, discussion about even increasing subsidies for higher income people to get coverage through the affordable care act. i think there is a willingness

to address some of these issues. of course, there's not universal agreement on what to do. a rock. is always but we will you be going through a process in a year where we will be discussing changes in the affordable care act and also more broadly. as you know, a number of those elected to the house of representatives who are democrats are very much in favor of a single system and we will see whether they want to push to have a vote on that or not. but health care be, i think, topic a in the house of representatives. host: for excellence and health innovation, with us for the next half hour, we're talking about health care without walls. how long have you been at the network? guest: been here just under three years. host: and what did you do before that? guest: i was a senior policy advisor for the robert johnson foundation and before that, the editor-in-chief of a journal and health policy.

before that, i was a health correspondent for the pbs newshour. host: how long have you been covering health issues? guest: a long time. over 30 years. calls, waitingur in illinois. employer-provided insurance, go ahead. i actually am retired from state police, california, so i retired with full medical. i getan army veteran, benefits, so i had insurance my whole life. thatbelieve for the record everyone should be insured through the government. background is wide and varied. different parts of the health care system, but one thing i noticed you are not addressing, i was a self-defense instructor most of my career. and i have maintained an athletic lifestyle at 65.

and my question to you is, have you seen what america looks like on the ground? do you know the statistics of the obesity levels in this country. and the reason i ask, we can't possibly have any kind of health ise system if every corner filled with fast food slop that people are shoveling in seven days per week. i hate to put it that way, but that's about as low as a gift. this country will never be healthy if we promote the lifestyle that you see. if you go to different parts of the country like i've been, it's sad to see young and old and the condition that we are. what do you think of that? is utterly true that we have an obesity crisis in this country. we have essentially two thirds of the u.s. adults overweight or obese. , it canome populations be even higher. we know that obesity is a driver of many chronic diseases. for example, diabetes.

and we know that obesity will increasingly be the primary driver of cancers in the united states. obesity is linked to about 16 different types of cancer. so, there's no question about it. we do have poor health in a lot of the u.s. population and that will be an enormous contributor to chronic illness, premature death, as it is already. host: ashburn, virginia. go ahead. caller: i will be real brief. i would like to settle on all of these people calling in about health care. i'm a prior service member. and it was pretty well-known that most doctors in the military weren't -- i hate to put it this way, but there was problems as far as their abilities went. because there's more money in the private sector. i'm not pretending to have a solution to this situation. to take anow you need

look at countries like great britain, where my neighbors son had a friend in college and if a baby was born prematurely before the 26 week, and this actually happened and made the newspapers, they will not assist the baby and that survival. they sat there and watched it expire. people thatfor the want to call in and say morality or refer to god. i think it does not get any more barbaric than that. that's all i have to say on the subject. thank you. guest: again, in our report we were not addressing various ways of financing health care, single-payer or whatever. at this point, we are staying out of that argument. again, i don't know. single-payer is not government controlled health care. it is basically government financing of health care.

like the medicare program, which we have in this country, where essentially, we as taxpayers are paying for bills primarily for medicare. we ask beneficiaries to pitch in some money as well. but the care is provided privately by privately employed physicians and others. of healthhe future care that you do talk about in the book, health care without laws or roadmaps for reinventing u.s. health care, do you talk about the training aspect for doctors? now you are asking doctors cannot just be experts in their own profession, but to have a technical expertise to go along with that. guest: to some degree, that's right. we all watchhand, television and it's not because we all completely understand how a television works. we know we just have to turn it on. same thing will go for telehealth and telemedicine. there will be a degree of pushing a button and having it happen. won'te do say is that we

need to make a number of changes in our health care work was collectively. not just among physicians. first of all, train people how to provide care in these virtual ways. .t does take some adjustment we are all human beings, we are used to reaching out and touching somebody. what happens when you can't touch somebody? how do you compensate? it can be done, you just have to learn how to do it. host: to doctors want to do this? guest: a number do. i will just mention one clinician i just spoke with last week who has been providing care for patients with parkinson's disease. he says he has not been in a physical clinic for five years. he conducts all of his business now virtually. therefore, he's able to reach patients who would not otherwise see a neurologist. 40% of people on medicare with parkinson's do not have neurologists. partly because it's hard to get to them.

we don't have neurologists on every corner of america. if you could have a visit with somebody who is an expert in the field, even if it's virtual, you want to have that. this clinician is very host: satisfied being able to provide that. host:from the teaching perspective, are there statistics about the level of trust people have? people wanting the physical visit to the doctor versus a and the the computers ai and everything that goes into telehealth? guest: one example that i just cited is a good development to the story. they tried to recruit patients into a clinical trial that was studying this, they had to do some explaining. how does this work? yes, you can stay at home. yes, your loved one can be there with you. homewe will use your laptop computer. we get that set up for you. it often takes some explaining

but as an mentioned, one of the big takeaways of the clinical trial was that patients actually theer the virtual visits to in person visits. is borne outhink by a number of other studies as well. if you can actually meet people when they need the care, they like it better than the conventional situation of having to go on someone else's terms to a different location. of thee are talking future of health care and health care without walls or roadmaps. from reinventing u.s. health care. waiting in cleveland, ohio. go ahead. yes, i've been sick most of my life. i'm 52 now, i've been sick since i was 15 with crohn's disease. now, i'm a dialysis patient. i finished dialysis patient for over 23 years.

recently became visually impaired. the doctors want a dialysis patient who is supposed to go see the doctor every three months. i go see my doctor once every two years. simply because when i go into i'm just leaving my dialysis appointment. they checked my blood pressure every 15 minutes at dialysis. they check my weight when i first go in, again when i leave. when i go to a doctor's appointment, they check my blood pressure when i get there, they check my weight. i sit down for 30 minutes, wait for the doctor, the doctor never touches me, she asks me how am i doing it, how do i feel, do i feel that my weight is right. that i leave. so was the purpose of going to the doctor's office? it's a waste of money, a waste of my time and a waste of the public money.

so, on top of that, they have a doctor to come around at the dialysis center once a week and they charge us for a full doctor visit. people, onething four shifts. , the doctors cad people. that's just a waste of money. thanks for talking about your situation. out ini will point norway, for example, the telecommunications company have the goal of trying to get a third of the population that needs dialysis in norway to be able to have home dialysis. you bring a piece of equipment into the home, and that is where people will get their dialysis treatment. it's totally possible. we have is equipment today. a number of people in the u.s. are getting home dialysis, but not nearly enough.

and given what we are facing with the obesity and diabetes crises, we need to get on the stick. as a country, and provide care in a way that is much more around the needs of individuals such as yourself. some very enlightened health systems are taking steps now to make sure that people have transportation to their health-care appointments. when they have to go to a physical health care location. but, historically, the health care system has not dealt with these issues. they have left people like you very much not at the center of the system and having to conform what you need to do to the needs of the system. what we are really talking about is turning the health care system inside out, getting it to the community. there really is no reason why you should not be able to have home based dialysis as a community health worker to make sure that gets done. it is really just a question of

making these kind of things happen. host: pennsylvania, rob, good morning. caller: yes, good morning. thank you for taking my call. i worked in the health care field for four years. most of what we see in health care in terms of what we have to treat is self-inflicted. the world health organization just came out recently and used the percentage, 80% of health issues primarily in the major areas could be prevented. what is your thought on ,ducation in the schools starting in the first grade, teaching students how their bodies work, how they function? and how to stay healthy. and what about health care providers? involved in using technology. education.nd increased on health. thank you. as people have said

repeatedly over the years, americans don't have a health care system we have a sick care system. art of the reason that we have that is obviously, we have a lot of every sick people. that's the way we have configured our system. we have paid people to be treated when they are sick. we have not invested as much as we need to do to actually cause people to be healthy. what we know from years of research is that the number one and number two determinations about your health in life is your income and your level of education. it is arguable that the best thing that we could do to create a healthy population is to make sure and confirm that well-educated brains are developing from ages 0-3, etc.. then, as you say, having education about what people need to do to protect their health. not just children, but families and others. abilityupporting people

to stay as healthy as possible is what we have to do as a country. and that is part of what we are laying out in health care without walls. how do we mobilize the health care sector back into the community to help people protect and preserve their health? host: peggy is uninsured. good morning. caller: yes. i'm peggy. host: go ahead, you are on. caller: i'm calling because i have a daughter that has no insurance. she has no job. she has no money. how is she supposed to get any medicine? she has to go to the emergency per yearral times because she feels sick. she can't stand it. the only other alternative i have is to send her to the emergency room. , she getspay anything a job and is always a part-time job. and she gets sick. and then she gets sent home or just, it's bad.

she can't get insurance because she does not have any money. why in understand america, we don't want to have healthy people. we don't want -- i don't know. if you get sick anymore, like if you have a bad something and you go to see one doctor, he will prefer you to another doctor. everyone of those doctor visits cost about $400 or $500. how many people, if they don't have any money, they don't have a job. they want people to have jobs. host: thank you for sharing your story. guest: i don't know much about your daughter's specific situation, but this is part of the reason why we are trying to build up the health care safety net in this country. for example, through the affordable care expanding the medicaid program. unfortunately, 32 states have

done that and the numbers -- a number of states will do that at the consequent and of the election results, but we don't ly good safetyl net system for everybody in your daughter's situation. host: what about the concern that telemedicine, virtual medicine, benefits will only go to the wealthy in this country? you need a computer, you need high-speed internet to do was being done to make sure that it is shared across all incomes. guest: we actually argue a very important point, it should be a major thrust to federal policy. theother countries around world are taking steps to make sure that there was universal internet access, universal broadband. plan to geta has a nationwide internet service which we don't have in the united states. it does not necessarily have to be internet. cellular, if we had universal cellular service which is

technically possible to do. that would be a very good standing as well. just the way the nation made the decision years ago that we april a lotve, say, of vacation, a world telephone service. we need to go the step to have universal internet broadband and universal cellular service accessible for all americans. this is the way we are going to run our entire economy, not just our health care system, in the future. was moving through congress right now that would promote what you argue sure in this book? guest: not much, to tell you the truth. there have been things that have moved. a major piece of federal legislation is -- did incorporate some telehealth into the medicare program, so that was a positive. but we really think, even going back to thinking about rural parts of the country, we know we

have large numbers of closures of rural hospitals. we have communities with a lot of chronic disease. where there is not a lot of access to health care providers. it should be a national imperative to extend better health care to rural settings. and we think rural areas are a perfect place to start to try out these different ways of providing health care. we think the congress ought to way into this. and, basically, think about a whole structure of federal grants or other forms of support to really get behind efforts to change the way health care is provided, especially in rural areas of the country, which could benefit so much from these initiatives. about 10 minutes left. our topic is the future of health care. the book is "health care without walls: a roadmap for reinventing u.s. health care." ashley, tennessee. who get their insurance through their employer, go ahead. wondering, in this

health care talk, it seems like people conflate the term health care and health insurance. and i know if i go to the er, they have my bill and then they come around and offer cash which is usually less than half of what the bill is. and i was just wondering, you know, between this kind of medicine and the expanding world in health care, it seems like since mandatory health insurance they aree a thing, wanting to provide less service but still be able to charge the same amount of money now that they have a monopoly. thank you. well, i'm not sure exactly where to go with that question except to say that it is true in the u.s. health-care system that there is not a lot of transparency around prices.

people don't often understand what health care costs. there are different pricing structures based on whether you are in an insurance plan that has negotiated special rates with doctors or with hospitals, etc.. and it's extremely confusing for individuals. with some ofthink the changes we described, efforts to have greater transparency and health care prices. some people will be familiar with the fact that cbs and edna have a plan to merge. of thinking lines is to reinvent the front door of health care. so the kinds of places that you would walk in the door if you had an initial need for health care as you can today, you could walk into a cvs and go to a minute clinic and see prices posted for what it's going to cost to have a vaccination or whatever. so, moving to a system that is more price transparent, we think

would be very positive. moving to a system where those kinds of things are much more accessible to people, you should not have to go to a hospital, emergency department to get the kind of routine care that many americans are still going to hospitals to get. carolina, rich, insured through the approval care act. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to say thank you for bringing up the single-payer system in this country. it would still be private entities. competing with each other. it would just be financed by the government. also, i was just in the hospital a couple months ago. and i had kidney stones. and when i had my ultrasound done, and it went to the radiologist, they could not read half of it.

and they still wanted me to pay the full, you know, the full amount. there should be accountability as people are not doing their job properly, or something that is done was not right. i should not have to go back and pay more out of pocket because they did not do it right to begin with. said, i have obamacare and i love it. it saved me about $5,000 this year. and i only pay about $43 per month for it. so, thank you. guest: well, i'm sorry for your situation and particularly for the kidney stones. that's a very painful thing. as i said, i'm not sure exactly what went wrong there. but we do know, we have to continue to work on improving the quality of our health care system as well. another part of us having star wars medicine on a flintstones

delivery platform is sometimes the platform does not work that well. that's going to be a major issue we need to continue to address as a country. host: opioid abuse is a major issue that we are trying to get our hands around in this country. are you concerned that the ability of telemedicine, virtual medicine, might make that problem worse, that a doctor is not in the room for a diagnosis, so there might be more of an effort to get those prescriptions or get access to some of those opioids? guest: i would say the opioid crisis is a very complicated thing and of course, some of it .as been you to overprescribing there's no question about it. observingcians are the prescribing guidelines that have been reduced by the centers for disease control and prescribers are prescribing prescribing to those guidelines where they are doing it in

person or virtually, we should be targeting opioids to fewer and fewer people who really need it. we should also, very importantly, be working to injured his people to non-opioid alternatives or pain relief. so, that's all possible virtually just as it is in the physical care environment. on the other side which is helping people who already have addictions, we know that one huge problem has been lack of access to what is called medication assisted treatment. say, essentially, prescribing medications that can help people get off of addictive drugs. if we could expand the provision of that care through telemedicine or telehealth, we could get it to many, many more people and we need to -- and there is a very positive upside to adopting that kind of addiction treatment into virtual settings. host: alex is waiting in

california, gets insurance through his employer. go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i know health care is important for everyone in america, but i would like to remind everybody that tomorrow is universal children's day and we should be aware that the american taxpayers are helping our government to kill children by arming saudis. and i think they don't have any insurance. it's a disgrace for our country. that he thinks himself as the cradle of democracy. it means that we join this massacre of innocent children of yemen. host: stick around for our next segment on the washington journal. we are going to be talking about the cost of u.s. wars overseas since 9/11. a new report about that for the

cost of war project. that's coming up in just a few minutes but we only have susan for those few minutes, so we want to stick to the health care discussion. the line for others, go ahead. caller: good morning. susan mentioned the annual cost in this country is $3.5 trillion. do you mean for medical services, or insurance together? divide that by our u.s. population and you get the cost of $1060 per month. $80 per week. and it seems like our u.s. medical problems should be solvable. especially due to -- i do like your idea about the video conferencing. that's all i have to say. mentiont a statistic i

which is a figure tech related by cmf. understandingking of health care delivery. but as you say, we think that there's plenty of money in the system. we just need to marshal our resources much more effectively than we have been doing. kansas, marty, go ahead. i'm calling because if the house doesn't concentrate on house care -- health care, then .othing is going to get done guest: democrats are pretty cognizant of the fact that they ran on health care and needed to deliver for the american people. they of course need partners in the senate to help them do that and as i mentioned there is a bipartisan corps in the senate

that agrees. , many ofll have to see them want to do things. the president has said that there is some kind of a deal on health care. we will have to see how it all plays out. of course, we can make them know our own preferences that they do, in fact asked. host: thomas has been waiting in texas. go ahead. caller: high, susan and john. i had an idea when i was working that saved a tremendous amount of money for united health care for the policy we had that continues through the medicare we have today. was to sendd been you to a primary first. or someo a specialist other ailment or whatever. was, my idea was,

instead of going to the primary first staff to pay them, they changed it on my idea because i talked to their supervisor, and they changed it so you could go straight to the specialist. and that saved a tremendous amount of money. my second problem is, and a lot of people that i know that our unstinting prescriptions today, they have a problem because years ago, standing prescriptions meant exactly that: it meant you went to the doctor, gave a prescription to take your entire life until you die. other than just a normal checkup. turned it around and said ok, you have to go every six months. i'm sorry, every year. then, they changed it to every six months. well, that's costing more and more money. now that i'm on health care, i

know these people like i was telling you before, they are actually taking more and more money to utilize, to give a standing prescriptions years ago. to be changed and that would save a tremendous amount of money. host: susan, i will give you the final minute. guest: administering medication is a really complicated thing for everybody, and it's probably not a good idea to put people on a prescription for ever that does not have a health care provider making some adjustments along the way. so, health care is complicated. in your situation, i think speaks to that fact. host: president and ceo of the network for excellent health innovation. editor of the new book "health care without walls: a roadmap for reinventing u.s. health care." thank you for your time this morning. guest: great to be with you,

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thanksgiving weekend, on the c-span networks. announcer: washington journal continues. host: each week in this segment of the washington journal, we take a look at how your money is at work. this week we will focus on the cost of the war on terror since september 11, 2001. our guest is the codirector of the cost of war project at broad and university of political science progress or at boston university. professor crawford, your group has pegged the current total at $5.9 trillion. before we get into how you came up with that number, remind us what overseas operations are included in the war on terror? guest: the united states has obviously got troops in afghanistan, iraq. in there are forces fighting 80-90 other locations in the world. spending by the

state department and protecting its own embassies and other locations. so, there's a lot of money in the war on terror sprinkle out. but the major concentrations are in the war zones. host: when you talk about the war spending, most people usually think of the cost of putting food on the ground and planes in the sky. of that $5.9 trillion that you come up with, how much is made up of just about? guest: the department of the defense overseas contingency operations which is what they call it. it's about $2.9 trillion. host: so, where does the rest of that 5.9 trillion come from? walk us through the rest of the numbers. guest: right. as i said, there is state department spending. spending on homeland security which is associated with preventing and responding to terrorist attacks. there's money in the base

military budget, which is used for patrolling the skies when necessary, of the homeland. and also increasing base security in the u.s. as well as increases in base military spending for things like tri-care health and expenses. pay raises, when necessary. troops who,nd keep at some points, it was very difficult to get people to come. thehey had to increase bonuses and so one for enlistment. also interest on our waiting for these wars and as well, there is a large portion of spending which is going toward caring for the veterans. host: talk about that last point, about $1 trillion you paid as future health care costs for veterans since september 11,

2001. guest: that's right. the reason that health-care expenses for veterans will be higher, i think essentially falls into two. one is that there are a large number of these veterans. about 3 million post-9/11 veterans who moved into the v.a. system. they are relatively young, compared to the other veteran populations, but in some cases, they are sicker than the veterans of previous wars. they have done multiple deployments, they have carried around heavier packs. so, they have much more skeletal problems. they have higher rates of respiratory problems. issues and then, of course, there are more than 300,000 people of traumatic brain injuries. in addition, there are people with major limitations and other problems associated with the war . i'm not even talking about ptsd,

just other medical problems. age, theirterans cost for care and the benefits for disability will increase. or costs since 9/11 is our topic. our phone lines that the differently this morning. regional if you are in the eastern or central time zone's, guest: is the number. (202) 748-8001 is the number. we also have a special line for 9/11 veterans, (202) 748-8002. nina is with the cost of war project. can you explain what that is and how long you have been trying to track the cost of war? guest: we began in 2010 with assembling a number of experts, about two dozen experts who look at various elements of the response to the 9/11 attacks.

together ae put series of reports on the cost of thingssite that look at from increased homeland security spending, veteran care issues, consequences for civilians in areas of the united states attacks following 9/11, and many areas, we found when we did this report, we needed to know more. last several years, what we've done is we've added the number of experts from universities and outside universities to cover things that we did not cover in our original analysis. since we began to look into the cost of health care for veterans by state. some work ondone the environmental costs of these wars, so we found when we began this work and that we needed to could get a more

comprehensive understanding of the cost of these wars. at 5.9ou pegged it trillion dollars. explain why your numbers are so much different from the pentagon through fiscal 2018. they pegged the cost of war since 9/11 as $1.7 trillion. is onlyhe pentagon counting what they have been appropriated for the major war zones. so we are looking at all the war zones, we are looking at the increases in the base military budget. to be moreng comprehensive by understanding the domestic -- the immediate domestic this goal impact of increased military spending in terms of debt, and we are also trying to understand the cost of these wars in the long run. host: here's one headline stemming from your new report that came out, the cost of the

17 year war on terror could pay off a quarter of the national debt. that's from the daily caller. their story last week after he released this latest report. we will let you chat with college. regionally and a special line for post-9/11 veterans, that special line (202) 748-8002. but we will start with sean, it lord a. go ahead. -- sean, in florida. go ahead. talking about spending which kind of overlaps with medical from the last if ant and i don't know soldier's wife has insurance and they are able to use that also. and they say they have a knee replacement, and this happened to me. now, the doctors for my mri told me my co-pay was $500. but i could pay $600 in cash.

but they charged my insurance company $2400. so, that's really mind-boggling to me. that's been bothering me for like five years. host: i appreciate you sharing your story. focusing on this report. can you dig in more on that $350 billion number, medical care for post-9/11 veterans. does it also include medical care for family members? tri-care insurance for active duty soldiers does include their family members. it's a benefit of joining the military. it's a promise we made to those families, yes. the veteran care that we look at numbers, it's focused on the soldiers themselves. host: compton, california. good morning. caller: good morning.

this is interesting because the reason we are fighting the war in afghanistan is because of 9/11. it's the reason it started, because of saudi arabia. and now, we are now supplying saudi arabia weapons to go to war in yemen. this is totally ridiculous when you look at this money being spent. and then we want to talk about the debt? and put it on the generations? it's crazy. as the people, we need to yell stop. look at what we are doing. crawford on the cost of the overseas operations, can you break it down by country, at least the major countries and major operations? guest: yes, i can. the largest portion of spending so far has actually been for iraq.

that's $822 billion just looking at the state department and the doj spending. until recently. and then, afghanistan, actually surpasses iraq spending recently because it has been a longer, more persistent conflict. that is $975 billion. and then, the war in syria breaks out to about $54 billion so far. monica is a post-9/11 veteran calling from california as well. go ahead. caller: high, i'm just calling in to say, i do agree with the number being much higher than the pentagon says, the 1.9. just a loan in the veteran health care cost, i myself receive a v.a. health care and i mean, it's not the best quality, but i see so many veterans receiving health care.

or, having to use the choice program to go out in town to see doctors when there is over a 30 day or 60 day wait. and the cost of that alone adds up. thank you. host: professor crawford? host: the guest: v.a. was sort of overwhelmed at the beginning with the number of veterans that they had to process and the system which created a waiting line. and then there is a waiting line for care afterwards. resources enormous went into taking care of the computer part of health processing individuals through, but also in terms of the human to human interaction. the needs for the v.a. will increase over the next several decades. we focus on the dollar cost of the war since 9/11. the cost of war project also focuses on the human cost of those wars as well. i want to show some numbers for our viewers.

as thet has been tracked cost of war project. u.s. military total approaching 7000 u.s. contractor deaths, approaching 8000 in some other numbers. some other numbers you put together, 362 members of the media and skill. national military police from those countries we have been involved, 109,000 casualties. and are between 109000 114,000 opposition fighters killed since september 11, 2001. and somewhere between 244000 and 266,000 civilians. can you talk about how you track those numbers and how hard that is? guest: the easiest numbers to track are the numbers of both warkilled by zones, major war zones. they are also killed in other zones we don't really hear about. it's easiest to track that because the department of

defense takes care of that accounting for us. also, if you are interested, they break it down by service. and location. in terms of tracking the contractors, that's more difficult. the u.s. contractors are listed on the department of labor site and you can figure out how many they say are killed. but there are many other contractors working for the u.s.. who are killed in these zones and we don't have an estimator for that. the civilian number is extremely accurate to get an handle on, but there are several organizations, nongovernmental organizations which try to account for and enumerate the civilian deaths in these war zones. for instance, the iraq body count has been looking at civilian deaths in iraq, text and body can't has looked at deaths due to drone strikes in pakistan. a number of human

rights organizations following the war in syria. --t we do is we look at there's also excellent work being done by the united nations, and afghanistan. investigating individual incidents of civilian harm. we look at these incidents, these reports, and i actually try to make an assessment about the credibility of the sources and also, track them over time. by tracking them over time, i can see if the wars are decreasing in intensity for civilians and soldiers were increasing. in afghanistan, for instance, we deaths went up in the late to thousands and more recently, they have gone up again. s track in the intensity of the war, we have found that, in addition, the

military deaths are also tracking the intensity of the war. think about understanding how the united states has tried to get afghanistan, for example, to take up more of the burden. in doing so, they have trained afghan forces and those afghan forces are out doing a lot of the work. more recently, they have stopped letting the special inspector general for afghanistan reconstruction tell us the number of their soldiers were injured and killed. now, that's a very useful thing to know. it explains in part why they're having such a hard time combating the taliban, al qaeda, isis. other militant organizations. keepingng a hard time the troops that they need coming in. and it's also useful in terms of us understanding how our money

is being spent. is it being wisely spent in training these troops, and how effective are they? host: about 10 minutes left this morning with professor nina crawford. codirector of because cost of war project at brown university. you can find it online. she also serves as a political science professor at boston university. questions, calls and regionally if you are in the eastern or central time zones, (202) 748-8000. mountain or pacific time zones, (202) 748-8001. and that special one for post-9/11 veterans, keeping that open, (202) 748-8002. kathy has been waiting in boulder, colorado. good morning. caller: high. host: go ahead, you are on. caller: high. all, i finally got through. gosh, that was such an

intelligent conversation that you just had. i don't even know where to begin. i was watching television and you are talking about things that have nothing to do with what the television is telling me. host: caffe, we appreciate you watching. we'll go to alex in new york city. the line for those in the eastern or central time zone. caller: good morning. first of all, i have a question. trump, when held was on the campaign trail, would always keep saying that we spend more than $6 trillion on war. and yet, he is starting and waging war. i mean, he is supporting yemen war when the saudis kill innocent people. so, that's my fundamental question. who asked us to wage a war? nobody.

if the powerful lobbies and i i can get the answer for my question. host: professor crawford? the wars initially began in afghanistan and then spread into pakistan because the united states was attacked on 9/11. and then, the war in iraq was a result of our fear which turned out to be not rooted in fact, that you rock posed a threat of weapons of mass destruction. escalatedwar in syria in order to defend the syrian people from isis and to theoretically prevent isis from growing. now, the war in syria has actually done quite a bit and the united states can say that i

think they did a good job in certain respects, but much of syria and iraq were left in rubble as part of the 2014 response to the threat of isis. the same could be said in afghanistan and pakistan. and, you know, in yemen. that these wars, they leave a trail of destruction. thousandt to get a few or many thousands of militants that might pose as recognized states, we have left a trail of destruction. a couple post-9/11 veterans waiting to chat in kentucky. go ahead. caller: yes. know,d just like to president obama, basically let iran have $150 million for the sanctions. and also paid 500 million in

cash for our hostages. we did not get any kind of deal for that. people like me can't get any help. that don't make sense. could you answer my question for me? when you talk about $100 million, five hundred million dollars, you are talking about a lot of money. but i'm talking about many hundreds of millions of dollars. in fact, billions of dollars. in fact, several trillion dollars. we would like to see a change in the policy and the direction of the government. we have to keep our eyes on the big prize. and the big prize is that we've got over $700 billion in military budget, much greater than all of our rivals. in fact, most of our rivals combined. that is really what we are talking about, the scale of

spending that may or may not be a threat. i actually don't think that this amount of spending is in proportion to the threat. it's like over insuring against unlikely events. are we know that things much more pressing, for example, health care and infrastructure, and much more likely to kill us in the future, specifically climate change. -- ifes have to be there's $10 million here or off $100 million here, in ways that whole country the has stopped thinking about the consequences and the cost of such high military spending. not just now, but into the future, because we are paying interest to pay for these wars. in,: also a post-9/11 voter georgia, go ahead. caller: thank you, professor

crawford and mostly, i -- iniate your part partisan review. my concern is based on projections of your cost, and i'm not discrediting the 5.9 trillion number that you have come up with, but when we entered into some of these conflicts, we talk about the coalition of the strange or the weird. and the costs associated with bringing some of those people economic aid, military aid, and just expansion. all of these things go together. how did you take care of those numbers? i will get off the wind so i can hear your response. thank you. guest: the state department money is accounted for an hour budgets. money for department the war on terror. and related expenses, it goes to many countries besides iraq,

afghanistan, pakistan. it goes to other recipients. that's in our costs. there are special operations forces in 80 to 90 countries in the world. operatingostly outside of our view. we don't really know what they are doing. that's included in our costs. the special assistance that pakistan got to allow u.s. military forces to transit to afghanistan is included in our cost. included many of these costs, but i think you are getting to a larger question. how has the united states and pushedterrorism most of our foreign policy and, in fact, increased our military budget in ways that were sort of unseen? and that we were focused on these threats and, in fact, as i

said earlier, over ensuring by trying to make sure that folks ,re with us all over the world but it cost us a lot of money to do that. we are buying a lot of friends. idle want to dismiss, however, the real sacrifices that, for instance, britain and germany and other allies have made in terms of the global war on terror. they have also spent hundreds of dollars,of billions of and they have also lost people to death and injury by fighting alongside the united states in the major war zones. host: stephanie, long beach, california. go ahead. thank you for doing this. my question is, what is the opportunity cost of this war?

we --ould happen if hospitals in the united states or schools in the united states? do you come up with a number where, perhaps, some of that could have paid us back in benefits to our people? guest: that's a great question. someone at the university of massachusetts who has worked on our project. she has done an analysis of the number of jobs that would have been created by spending $1 million on infrastructure or solar energy. and she finds that for every $1 million spent, on the military versus something else, you create many more jobs. something else, anything else, creates many more jobs. thato mention, the benefit

any other spending would have our greenhouse gas omissions profile, which can be much lower than in terms of the quality of our health care. host: just about one or two minutes left. what are the biggest wild cards right now when it comes to the future of the cost you have been talking about today? guest: the first one is interest to pay for these wars. we have been borrowing. we wanted to deficit spending immediately after 9/11. in order to pay for wars, the united states was in surplus territory right before that. it's costing us interest. but we can make the choice. warax people to pay for the and to pay for the cost of health care. or we can ask people to buy war bonds. that's one wildcard. if we change the way that we pay for these wars, they could cost us less in the long run. host: and are there other wildcards? guest: yes.

the amount of effort we spend on these wars is dramatically increasing greenhouse gases. -- i'm sorry,pent used about $100 billion -- 100 billion barrels of oil between 2010 and 2015 each year. tremendous -- increasing greenhouse gases. all of our problems are made worse. climate refugees, rising sea levels, wild and crazy storms that we have not seen before. by putting so much greenhouse gas into the air. single largest user of fuel. and if the military reduced its fuel consumption, if we stop using fuel everywhere, all the time to protect us against anything that possibly might happen, we would actually have a safer united states in the long run. host: the project is the cost of war project out of brown

university's watson institute. ostofwar.rown.edu/c nina crawford is the codirector of the project and a political science professor at boston university. guest: take so much. thank you. . end withnext, we will ". any public policy issue you want to talk about, the four lines are yours to do so. democrats, publicans, and independence. we will be right back. ♪ announcer: coming up thinks giving weekend on the c-span networks. on c-span, thursday at 8 p.m. eastern, supreme court justice elena kagan followed by chief justice john roberts. friday at 8:00, former new jersey governor chris christie and others discuss the opioid epidemic. saturday at 8 p.m. eastern, what are journalists talk about their favorite photographs on the campaign trail.

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the state posted the official results yesterday. here is from the video statement. >> there are great decisions ahead that will shape the course and character of america in the 21st century. and yes, i will continue to fight hard for what's right and i will also encourage others to seek common ground with their colleagues, that effort will fall short sometimes but we have to try. we have to move beyond the

politics that aims not just to destroy, where truth is treated as disposable, where falsehoods abound and that the free press is assaulted as the enemy of the people. there has been a gathering darkness in our politics in recent years. can be found in the words of john f. kennedy who said, civility can guide us through that darkness to a safe and sane future. thank you all, god bless you, and god bless our country. host: with the florida senate race now over, their leaves one senate race left from election 2018. that is in mississippi and president trump will go down to mississippi next week to senator for republican cindy hyde-smith in that undecided race hoping to carry her across the finish line.

the washington times says she -- two on camry more marks has had to on camera remarks that have hurt her chances. might -- mikecrat espy. she joked about a public hanging and the other incident, she quipped about voter suppression, putting her on the defensive against her opponent who is black. democrats hope the remarks will bring out more turnout. she is a former democrat and was appointed last year to fill the seat left vacant when senator ed cochran retired. also outstanding house races, there are five left. democrats are leading in the 232-198. races in georgia, texas, utah and two in new york have yet to be called. republicans currently are ahead in four of those five races. we will continue to keep you

updated as the results come in. it's a most two weeks after election day. andrew is up first in the open phone segment, new york city, eight democrat. go ahead. caller: hi and thank you for taking my call. i have a question. that iller said before would like to remind everybody that we should be aware of that. [indiscernible] i have a question -- [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [indiscernible] answer these of possible. onita is in riverton, wyoming, republican go ahead. caller: you are asking questions

about host: turn down your television and talk through your phone. viewers onking about the clinton-lewinsky campaign? caller: yes, i'm tired of hearing about it. i'm tired of hearing the president did wrong and that's the reason hillary didn't get in because she defended him. i think it's wrong to defend someone who is in the wrong. it's her own business if she wants to stay with an idiot like that. but that's ok, she can. i am tired of hearing about it. care isthat the health quite a question also.

i have enjoyed your programs. seniors do not have computers and can't get computers because they are on such a low income. everything's done on computers. now they want to put health care on computers. what do you do then? do we just go without health care? it's just silly. to start writing stuff on paper again or typing it and sending in letters and save ourselves a lot of headaches from the computers. i thank you for your time, thank you. watched sounds like you all three hours of our program and we appreciate that.

the discussion about monica lewinsky we had this morning in beginning their series on the clinton affairs that started last night and includes 20 hours of interviews with monica lewinsky. that was the subject of our first hour today. taking your calls on open phones and we can talk about any public policy topic. tom is in north hills, california, an independent, go ahead. caller: it's been a while since i spoke to you. i just had a couple of questions. regarding your last two segments, the first segment with the health care discussion -- -- i couldfigure out never get my medical records from the government. medicare tells me that my hospital is above the law. toave tried for 35 years now

get medical records. they continue to refuse my medical records. on my second point real quick, host: what's the reason why? caller: they put me in a coma and loss the x-rays. host: what is your second question? regarding the last segment, mr. wyatt6? nina crawford. caller: i wanted to ask her regarding the war, she was speaking so much about it on the cost. nobody ever mentioned how much cash did we send in cold when mr. bush was president? i will take my answer off the air, thank you. have a great day. host: you, too.

alonso is a democrat in mississippi, go ahead. caller: i'm wondering, am i missing something? president trump has been going startedaying that he the veterans choice program. i have a veteran choice program card from 2015 before he became president. how do you like your health care through that program? caller: i love it. va has been taking good care of me. talk about the senate runoff in mississippi and your thoughts? do you think cindy hyde-smith will keep that seat? caller: my guess is she will win that seat. host: what you think that?

caller: because about the commentsand negative by cindy. host: are you seeing a lot of advertising? caller: oh, yes, a lot of them. let me ask you one thing -- thatmissing something on veterans choice? host: i'm not sure you are. the president is actually headed down to mississippi next week ahead of that runoff. on whenget you details and where he will be in mississippi when that becomes available. we have 15 minutes left on open phones.

lou is a democrat in mississippi, go ahead. caller: i want to speak about the one-off we are having on the 27th of november. i think it's ridiculous. hyde ridiculous how miss as these commercials and just language she used about sitting on the front row of a lynching and talking about voter suppression. if you go through the county she goes through in -- she lives in brookhaven, all you see is confederate flags. how can she possibly speak for everyone and the state of mississippi with that attitude? just hoping that everyone in the state of mississippi, not only democrats that republicans and independentss can see that and hopefully mississippi has come along way and will see her for her true colors, thank you. host: some of the reaction to that statement about a public hanging, this from the

washington times story -- philip's in new hampshire, an independent, good morning. good morning, i've been paying attention this morning to the stuff you have been airing. i should probably start off by saying i'm not a citizen. i was just wondering how many registered aliens are there in this country that would love to be citizens and have an opinion and a choice and opportunity and a privilege to vote which would be fantastic. i still feel like we should have some sort of opinion anyway.

hopefully, i'm not overstepping anyone's boundaries. do you try to offer that opinion? caller: to be honest, i am kind of afraid to say anything. -- i'm kind right of afraid to say anything wrong. so many people between the democrats and republicans, they i'm such strong opinions afraid i'm going to get punched. i'm very cautious and careful what i do say. i agree with people whether i do or not. i let things go by. host: how long have you been in the country? 1977 and i'm sorry i have not become a citizen. at this point in my life, i'm going to move forward with that

and become a citizen of they accept me. host: what has held you back in the past? caller: no real problem. and i alwaysand had a european passport will stop i said if i ever went back to ireland or europe, i had the freedom of going to any country in europe and getting employment. that's probably not a great reason to be thinking like that but it was always an option. that lady that is running for the democrats down south -- what's that state? host: in mississippi. caller: correct, she is one of the most well spoken, educated people i have heard speak in quite a while. her and i would

like to see her get the position host: she is going after. opponentfact that her had the audacity to say she would go to a hanging -- what are these people thinking? don't they realize in today's day and age that no matter what you say where you go, you are videotaped and recorded? i just don't comprehend that at all. host: to be clear, it was senator cindy hyde-smith are just about the public hanging. caller: i apologize, i haven't kept up with american politics like i should have. does it matter how they put into power? how will it change things when we don't have the power to change anything? i think it's time for people like me to step up to the plate

and get my citizenship. and have a voice host: you have been here since 1977 and you called in as an independent. would you consider registering for a party if you became a citizen? caller: i really don't know the whole process and i don't think i have enough education on all of them to truly understand what the benefits would be of either or any party. i would have to get some good advice on that and listen to people speaking to see if i actually like and comprehend what they are saying. i will go back to the monica lewinsky subject. is i think opinion that the president, someone in toh a high global position

lower his standards, not his standards, not only but the whole countries standards to engage in such an activity was really bad on his behalf. more thisa little bit morning listening to your show in regards to women's opinion about his wife. that didn't even come to my mind. i would have a hard time picking out a party because i'm uninformed and the only way you get to know about the different parties is listen to them and their tv channels and everything else. how can you know whether you like someone or disagree with them unless you are totally informed about it. host: we appreciate you watching

this channel this morning. left in ourminutes program and many folks are waiting to call in. . north carolina, republican, go ahead. like to knowi'd about this guy from ireland. your you have to turn down television. morning.es, good it's good to be host: able to speak with you all. host:we will come back to you but get your television turned down. just talk through your phone. in bethesda, maryland, democrat, go ahead. caller: how are you? i appreciate you taking my call. i have been unemployed for the last nine months here in d.c. i want to know about policy

-- what is the unemployment rate? america isnt claims doing great but a lot of us are out of work. my passion is green technology and i'd like to know how i can contribute as a filmmaker. i was shocked that the military oil.s so much on is there a way for me to help and contribute and learn about and how to do my best trade andore about the comes to emissions? i hope you can do more programming for american so we can understand this stuff. many americans don't know how to change policy and we can do to move that forward. thank you for taking my call. host: thanks for the suggestion. will, cincinnati, ohio, go ahead. caller: i am retired and i've

been retired for some years. i have done some organizing work in my retirement. i had an idea about what's going on in politics and a better understanding. i have talked about this president many times about how he has changed the culture in this country. i'll think that's a good thing. i don't think that's a good thing for anybody. it's certainly for people who are colored. that's how much i will say about the president. i'll like the fact that he saying these terrible things about colored people and latinos everyone else and muslims. that's not good for our culture and it's not good for our ability to communicate with each other. elections, ihe brownike sherrod surprised me that he won in a

sea of red and one in ohio. think he talked about running for president. that's a signal that he won in a sea of red in ohio.it says he probably -- that he could run for president. he just needs to get the right running mate. that's all i wanted to say. host: who should be his running mate? caller: that's a good question. back when hillary clinton ran, not the she should've chosen it's a question about who he would choose and i'm not sure he would go with hillary clinton. i don't that she wants to be vice president anyway but who would be his running mate? i never thought that much about that will st. i'm drawing a blank right now about who would be a good choice.

who had themebody tenacity and a voice and have the convictions he has. i think it would be nice to have a woman. maybe somebody like -- i'm still drawing a blank. host: you got plenty of time until the 2020 election so give us a call down the road and let us know what you think. ray is in michigan, republican, go ahead. we lost ray. crockett, texas, democrat, go ahead. commentyes, i wanted to about the money they spend on war. it never ends. i thought the lady did an excellent job in explaining it to us, the american people,

--ut how i think we need to come to grips with the fact that the money we're spending on these wars, we could do a lot better here at home. like we'reeel turning into warmongers. i love people in the military and what they are doing for us but i think we need to concentrate on these things because we don't understand the fact that we're sitting here fine but a lot of innocent women arechildren and people caught up in this. thanks for the call

from texas. the segment you're referring to, the last segment, we focused on the cost of war projects in the latest report about spending in the wake of september 11, 2001. here are the numbers again.

it's the cost of war project at brown university. tom, here in d.c., a democrat, go ahead. hearing thes just republican speak after they elected their leaders for the new congress. it seems like they were so organized and had a succession plan ready. it seems they are effective legislators. as the frontlosi runner for speaker of the house, i'm wondering what fresh blood would do for the democratic party and what they are doing internally to ensure they are training the junior members of and being more effective legislators than they obama's firste term where i felt they dropped the ball. host: stay on the line, that leadership election for democrats is next week.

in the op-ed pages of the new york times, the editorial observer writes this -- what do you think, tom? caller: i agree, i think nancy pelosi is a shrewd negotiator and she's sharp and i personally think she would make an excellent speaker of the house if she could get more bills to the floor. i think she needs to work it out with her party and clear the air.