who refuses to take up these issues, and americans expect the senate to debate. let's take it up in debate it and and take up these issues. let's see if americans believe we should have a secure border. that is what this fight is about. it is about a secure border. host: congressman andy harris, republican from maryland. we appreciate your time. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] hitse government shutdown day 28 with congress and the white house unable to negotiate an end to the impasse. the house yesterday attempted to and it will be vote next week. build -- cecile not bring any.

mr. ruger. i think he did what he needed to that he would protect

mueller's probe that he would make as much of that public as he could. his good sure that is ableob mueller and to what is once and for all. trump who is donald is saying there is no collusion.

comesen this report believe mr. mueller would be involved in a witchhunt against anyone? >> i don't believe. his family works for the department of justice.

thank you committee based on feeling more secure that he would be independent and give the mueller probe the air it needs to be public. math take us through the

on the confirmation. guest: he starts with a leave because it is 53-47. 12-10.committee, it is the new members of the committee don't look l the new members of the committee don't look like they would vote against him. you have some republicans who have not made up their minds yet. he would have to lose three members of the republican party and that does not look very likely. host: what is susan collins waiting on? what does she need to know? caller: -- guest: i just saw that she said she is undecided. she likes to talk to the nominee or wait for the answers from the written questions that are yet to come. there are some outstanding things that diane feinstein said her vote depended on. here is his exchange with senator amy closure.

there is something to the -- called the robert mueller report, and the general right one to the kind was an. diane feinstein wants to make sure as much gets public as possible. there is confusion as to how that will be released. that is dianne feinstein's vote right now. host: on the release of the robert mueller report, here is his exchange with senator amy klobuchar about releasing the conclusions of the probe. [video clip] >> will you make all of the report conclusions, even if some of those not be made public? >> that certainly is my goal and intent. it is hard for me to conceive of run alusion that would written.urrently

that is certainly my intent. host: william barr saying my twice.is to do that does that cause concern that it was not a full commitment? guest: this is the issue. this is of incredible importance to the public and resolving you port and said he had in those regulations and regulations according to say the report from mueller is a you are in report to prosecutors. it's not public. they make a decision whether to prosecute or not. the question here for democrats the prefer that you will you and you will you

and you and what happened there youare in a legal that are you he is a number of the way you want independent who that boy think that you are going out a one you will you pick of the reasons i decided i would accept this position if it was offered to me was i feel i am in a position to be independent. over the years, a lot of people, some politicians have said i'm thinking of going for the attorney general position. i say, you are crazy. if you have a political future down the road, don't take the

job. you have to be ready to make decisions and spend all of your political capital and have no future. you have to have that freedom of action. i feel i'm in a position in life where i can do the right thing and not really care about the consequences in the sense that i can truly be independent. if you want to go back and watch the confirmation hearing, you can always do that. if you have questions, now is the time to call in. mike is up first in new york. go ahead. are you on the air? we need someone who is totally

independent. william barr is not independent or unable to make the proper judgments. why do you think that? because of his past. if you study him, in 1991 he was one of the lawyers who recommended people from the next administration be pardoned. the history of that? a lot of people are skeptical about how independent he might be. he has defended some of trump's actions. he made some comments about the collusion probe, there is not enough evidence for a collusion probe. he backed up a lot of what jeff sessions did in office. there are a lot of people who

they said he would not be independent because he worked on the campaign. there you have another guy who did not work on the campaign, he wrote a memo that was critical of one aspect of the mueller probe last year. it was a 19 page memo. he has opinions.

he won't necessarily be independent. cindy is an independent. when the fbi wanted to question certain people involved in all this, trump told them don't say anything. i could pardon you. that makes him look so guilty. i knew he was guilty when he said i could pardon you. all of these people calling in and blaming obama for everything , they told me he is no longer president. when bush was in office, when i brought up bush, people say he's no longer president. thank you.

one of the things it's interesting about what happened at the bar confirmation was questions like that were addressed. he wrote this memo saying there should not be obstruction of justice charge for firing james comey because he has the ability to fire james comey. he was asked a lot of other questions about when a president might be obstructed justice. one of those topics was whether he was floating the idea of a pardon in order to get people not to talk. that would be affecting testimony and obstructing justice. he did not rule out that it would be obstruction of justice if a pardon was used to affect testimony. a story in busby is getting attention.

the president directed michael: july 2 congress. that is reporting from buzz feed news. is that anything that might speak to the concerns raised in that story? i spoke directly to this at the hearing. this has prompted the committee chairman to say they would be looking into whether he directed michael cohen to give misleading testimony. in that memo, he set a president can obstruct justice and be guilty of it. the democratic senator from

minnesota asked him about those words. he said yes, if he directed somebody to give misleading testimony, that would be obstruction of justice. connecticut is next. go ahead. a very simple question, because mr. barr seems rational, was it lindsey graham who is responsible for setting up his nomination? what do you mean by that? who suggested it? it seems to have lindsey graham's fingerprints on it in a good way. it is so rational as opposed to any of president trump's staff. lindsey graham after the hearing

on tuesday said he thought there was nobody more qualified that he could think of on the republican side for this nomination. that includes himself. he was talked about being attorney general. he said that mr. barr was more qualified. lindsey graham has been one of trump's most outspoken people on the hill. he met privately and got a lot of private meetings with the president in the last few weeks. i do have any inside information about why he suggested bar or if that came to be. i get the sense that lindsey graham is glad it's not him. he thinks there will be a part -- bipartisan vote.

north carolina is next. good morning. good morning. i have a couple of questions for the gentleman. he is in charge, he will be in charge of the. the attorney general have more power than the congress? how did he decide if they see a report or not? i don't understand why he won't recuse himself.