the chair will be the house in the pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation with liberty and justice for all. valid objection, the house stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow for morning our debate. --hour debate. back until 10:00 a.m. we are joined by jonathan slack on investigative piece comparing. each of the medical centers with non-ba facilities, where does they da do it better than the non-v.a. facilities? guest: what we found is to thirds of hospitals did better

on death rates after treatments of pneumonia, heart failure and heart attacks. they also did better on post surgical complications that can things ofy number of affordable after surgery and then they fell short in other areas. ofy have higher rates avoidable infections, things other infections you get from the hospital. in other cases, the er wait times. host: what was the apples to apples comparison in the metric he used? guest: there was really no apples to apples way to compare them. what you had was a bunch of an notes or failures at individual hospitals. that led to one negative headline after another. what we wanted to do is get the data and the v.a. actually give

us that route in the months after trump took office, they started posting what they called spark cards. this was on 55 different measures. they would compare their own data from the v.a. with non-ba facilities. the way they posted it was very difficult. it is 146 different spreadsheets. cold --o build computer coat it to pull it down into one place where we can analyze it. host: the story that came from that, where every va hospital lags or leave some other medical care, we're talking about it for this segment of washington journal until the bottom of the hour. join the conversation. if you want to hear about your

call,ence, the number to 202-748-8000. otherwise in the region or central time zone, guest: --202-748-8001. if you're in the pacific or mountain time zones, 202-748-8002 . do veterans have different -- thatissues than the comes into a non-ba facility. guest: this is uncharted territory because we have had -- because we have not had the means to compare. the v.a. told us we should use caution when drawing conclusions from some of these comparisons. they said some of the rates are not adjusted for risk factors, just age and health. veterans might be predominantly male at the age where they are using the v.a. and some other factors. we also spoke to specialists who said there is -- there should be

no adjustment for risk for things like avoidable infections . you either get someone an infection or you do not. it does not matter if they are --there severely ill severely ill or healthy. if they contracted the infection in a hospital, there is no as adjusting. host: let's talk about wait times and the best and worst performers. what did you find? guest: big yard times between arrival in admission, i guess two hours to more than 11 hours and that is the median at v.a. hospitals. that means half of the veterans waited longer. is -- 3.2oh here it hours in fort harrison, montana, 7.6 hours in california and nearly 12 hours in fresno, california. that is a long time and is a

veterans sick enough to be hospitalized. host: is the v.a. doing anything to spread best practices from the hospitals that do it better to the ones that have the longest wait times? can they learn from each other? guest: the agency has tried for years to -- they started something in 2015 called the diffusion of excellence initiative where they tried to take best practices from higher performing hospitals and spread them to the ones struggling. they have spread a few practices . they told me direct scheduling of year and i appointments was one program, that they no longer had to go through a primary care provider to make those appointments. the other was text messaging of appointment reminders and the ,.a. said cut down on no-shows leaving more other veterans. host: we will talk about more

issues of experiences of veterans, but we want to hear from you in this segment. if you use v.a. facilities, it is host: --202-748-8000. from kentucky, go ahead. i -- the day i called about my cataracts to get an , just from the day i called and asked a primary care doctor, to see a doctor about my eye. march, it is in going to take december january february, march, it was almost four months to get my cataracts removed. thanks for the call on the scheduling side as opposed to

the er sides. guest: the v.a. has struggled with the wait times for appointments for years. and exposing the headlines in 2014 when news reports revealed veterans died waiting for appointments at the phoenix v.a. this four month wait you are talking about -- i and fortunately hear these stories too often. one can argue there are places in the private sector that also take four months, but it is hard to know. every be a facility is different. one thing we found was the vast very asian -- variation in the quality of care. 100 46ou put spreadsheets being released by the trump administration. why is the trump administration putting this information out and how are they planning to use it? trump administration told

me this was part of their commitment to transparency, to providing more information to the public about the inner workings of the agency. there were leaders before trump took office at the v.a. who were moving towards this, so i would say it is something that started under obama and is coming to fruition under president trump. illinois, johnrd uses ba facilities. caller: good morning. i have a unique problem with the v.a.. i have a caregiver for my wife. she may fall. we have a facility in rockford, but it is only a clinic. the nearest facility is a big hospital or i have heart problems and things, i cannot get to because i cannot leave my wife and the v.a. one allow me

to use a hospital local. the clinics can only do certain things like x-rays, blood tests. i do not know what to do. this is an interesting dilemma because of the difference in time constraints you have. the v.a. unveiled a proposed regulation that would allow veterans that have to travel longer than 30 minutes or wait more than 20 days to go to a more convenient private sector care facility at the v.a. expense. those rules are not finalized yet. they are supposed to go into effect in june. we do expect a heated debate in washington about those rules before they go into effect. host: is this the v.a. missions act? guest: it was signed into law by

president trump last year and it permanent something called the choice program, which was created in 2014 after the wait time scandal. it started to open the door to allow veterans to get care outside the v.a. when the v.a. could not meet their needs. the mission act made choice act -- the choice act permanent and it combines five other community care programs, hopefully into a streamlined experience for veterans. host: as this gives implement it over the coming years, where has been the biggest concerns by democrats now leading the house veterans affairs committee? guest: they are worried this world diverts money that would go into v.a. care and private .are as part of a vicious cycle it would make the v.a. less able to meet the veterans needs and

more care would go into the private sector and it would start the slippery slope towards privatization. host: to mike in minnesota, uses ba facilities. that juste gentleman caused, the choice program works good for me. i would like to say i only lived 10 miles from a facility but i prefer my health care at the v.a. foras done a better job some of the things i have had done. i have had host: need surgery they were surgery and successful. i have an appointment there this friday. i also have a dramatic brain injury. i am a wreck. anyway, it is a good facility. clinic andtpatient the minneapolis ba is a full staff hospital and i have had a very good success with everything i have had done. guest: that is great to hear.

i think everybody wishes veterans across the nation could have that kind of quality experience. it is uneven. i said earlier, a va hospital and asked the, north carolina is one of the best. you have a great experience there in minnesota. the one in asheville excels on a number of measures, including quality satisfaction and wait times. then you go across the country and it is a different story. in some cases, even in the same state of california, death rates after surgery with serious treatable competitions range from zero at the the and sacramento california to more than 200 per thousand patients in long beach, california and the same is true in miami. it is more than 200 per 1000 patients. that color very satisfied

with the facilities he uses. talk about patients that his faction surveys. the data was released, the difference between a big spring , the v.a.acility facility score with 68.48 compared to the lowest -- that was the lowest scoring, compared to the highest rankings in new york and some of the comparisons , a score of 89.95%. explain what is scores mean and why the range of difference in satisfaction. this is inpatient and outpatient. as part of the spreadsheets we analyzed, we found the results for 30 questions they post it on their and what we found was interesting. veterans were less likely than non-v.a. patients to say medical workers treated them with respect or listened and

respected what they had to say. they were less likely to recommend va hospital to others and rated their medical care providers lower. that is not good news for the v.a. but it does provide a telling glimpse of where they can improve. to john, in kansas city, missouri uses ba facilities. caller: i am so glad i was able to reach you. i got off my teleconference medical visit with my be a doctor. i am an 80% disabled veteran, cancer survivor. i get all medications from the v.a. and this is for the veterans out there. you will rue the day if the v.a. is privatized. i feel for people who have to go through insurance. to go through private insurance for the care that i got, i probably would not be talking to you.

my: removed the cancer from , took care of my diabetes, got my weight down. i am healthy. i do agree with you about some va hospital in certain regions that are not up to par. but a lot of them are. ones that work on the need to be brought up to v.a. --s like the that is one of the best in the country. guest: it is interesting you mentioned telehealth. this is a movement the v.a. has been trying to push forward given -- we talked about the and evil -- uneven level of care and telehealth announced they have

made more than one million appointments over virtual videoconferencing, telehealth appointments. i am glad to her you are taking advantage of that. host: what is happening with the v.a. in terms of rules about privatization of the trump administration is trying to do? a recent story you wrote is four times as many veterans could be eligible for private health care paid for the v.a. under rules being proposed. where do they stand? guest: these are proposed regulations. band they'll them 10 days ago -- they unveiled them 10 years of -- days ago. to drivewho have longer than 30 minutes or wait more than 20 days have the option to good with different doctor paid for by the v.a. where the heated debate is going to come up. some of your callers talked

about, they do not want to see the v.a. -- how do i say -- money shifted out of the v.a. and into the private sector. this is the debate. this word privatization -- is the answer hybrid model -- a hybrid model? we have beenhing talking about. treatment, battle wounds, dramatic brain injury, but the question is do they need to be the best dentists or ob/gyn services, but this is the debate. should they be everything to everyone as they are trying to be? should they focus on a limited number of things. host: our veterans affairs correspondent for usa today. if you did not see the analysis, it was the lead story from the

last weekend edition of usa today. website attheir usatoday.com. patrick is in michigan, up next. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: i go to the va hospital and i want to address ptsd and scheduling. ptsd -- i do not think you should have to see a muslim. that is part of the problem. we were us -- i was associated with the middle east for over 10 years. ptsd and ialk about have to talk to a muslim. host: what does your doctor say you bring up that issue with them?

guest: i didn't. that was the first time i did. that was my initial visit. i did not even bring it up at all. host: is it something you plan to bring up? where are you in terms of, if you do not mind talking about the ongoing recovery? i have been debating it, even slightly myself for ptsd initially. guest: certainly, this is something you should bring up with your provider. if you are not comfortable with the provider that you have now, just i do not want to say obviously, you can go ask to see someone else. this is a sensitive area.

the v.a. specializes in ptsd care and i would encourage you to talk to your provider about it if you are not comfortable .ith your provider ask to see another one. host: truck uses ba facilities. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i live in southwest colorado but i use the facility in albuquerque, regional thing. i do not have any discs in my mobilityi have serious issues and i was on methadone for six years to mitigate pain. oxygen time, i went on and found it harder to breathe as a result of the methadone being a suppressant. i also had a laryngeal field

growing on my vocal cards as a result of drinking agent orange. water navy got the highest exposure of agent orange because our water -- portable water was tainted with it and our food was cooked in it. we showered and it. -- in it. there was some dude in wyoming -- mike enzi was holding up the dealwater navy exempts a that keeps us from getting benefits from being poisoned by agent orange. as a result of not being able to walk, the v.a. was going to put rods in my back. anyway, they had to get a phoenix.t out of he was not a be a doctor but

somehow he neglected to order liquid methadone for me and i icu twoo icu and was in weeks after being out of surgery and they did not know what was wrong. after four days of not getting methadone, i went into withdrawals. a v.a. nurse who was also a vietnam vet who saw my tattoo and he exclaimed, man, that is a wild cat. --tat. he asked are you one methadone? i said yeah. he said when was the last time you had it? i said i thought it was in my iv. he said no there was nothing in there. he explains my body was rejecting toxins and the tattoo is a toxin. that v.a. or -- or that vietnam

vet saved my life. in an ordinary hospital, i would have died. hear: this is something i from a lot of veterans. the v.a. hires a lot of veterans to serve veterans and their special programs for veterans. there is a sensitivity shared experience that allows veterans that are health-care providers to serve veterans in a way that those of us who have not served do. host: the caller brought up at the beginning the debate over benefits for blue water navy veterans. can you explain the background on that it where that stands -- and where that stands? guest: there has been legislation that would grant

agent orange benefits to vietnam veterans who did not necessarily touch land in vietnam. they were out of -- left out of a presumptuous benefits. people who served on land in vietnam are entitled to automatic benefits and exposure to agent orange. if you served offshore on a ship or something, you are called a blue water vietnam veteran. you did not do the same presumption. there has been legislation in recent years trying to provide .hat to those veterans it so far has not succeeded. the current v.a. secretary and current v.a. is against it expanding these automatic presumptions. host: what is the reason? guest: they were talking about the cost. you can apply for benefits if you are exposed to agent orange

and prove your illness, if you can prove your illness is related to agent orange exposure , if you were on sea or land you get benefits. this kind of automatic presumption is a massive expansion. it affects 75,000 veterans and there is a court case pending. there was a federal decision granting benefits, saying they are entitled to them. we are in a waiting period to see if the government is going to appeal that decision. if the government does not appeal, they get the benefits. southtony is next in dakota, uses ba facilities. caller: i got a question about the mission asked --act. there is a number you can call. very nice people answered. they tell you it could take up yearst go years -- two

before anybody collects any benefits from this. veteran.vietnam just go purple hearts -- two purple hearts. .alk about a wait time do you think it will be faster than two years? thank you. talking about the mission act, which the rules for that would allow you to go to the private sector to get care -- you're supposed to go into effect in june so you will not have to wait two years for that. for the other expanded benefits under blue water navy or programs, it is hard to say. host: to been in tacoma, washington uses ba facilities. go ahead. caller: i appreciate c-span and everything. , i just wanted

to say they are outstanding. i suffer from a lot of issues for decades that i was in the military. they cannot see right away and that is because you have to because they are more serious than others. a i am sitting there with fractured skull i should take priority with a person over a broken finger. they saved my life. i cannot be any more grateful for what they have done. just as a warning to veterans privatize, itthey will become corrupted by anything that becomes for profit . it is better to wait a month, four months to get help then -- van to wait here because we are

a profit driven system. we may not be able to get it because money comes into play. guest: i have to say the current leadership of the v.a. said this is not -- this mood just moved to provide more options for private care is not an effort to privatize the v.a. polls have shown that when the word privatize is used and you ask people about the future of the v.a., there is this reaction thatmuch like this caller is like, it is going to be privatized. it is horrible. when you talk about hybrid versions where people can get choices they want, then people respond to that much more positively. whenever your thoughts are on the -- whichever side of this there are critics

and supporters on both sides and it is a matter of time. host: only a few minutes left before you have to run, but coming back to this story and comparison of v.a. hospitals, what have we not hit yet that you found in looking at the numbers? guest: there is so much here. to god encourage viewers online to usa today or google usa today and va hospital and you can look up your local ,linic, one across the country these tools have never been out before. host: what do you think they will be most surprised to find? satisfactiontriot data is interesting and you can click through to see all 65 measures, all 30 patient satisfaction questions and what percentage of patients like your

hospital, did not like your hospital, felt like they were not respected or were respected. there are areas that do well that you can look up. maybe want to consider if you are going to go to your local va hospital. up?do they stack it is about informing the veterans. host: 100 46 different ba medical facilities -- is the v.a. committed to keep putting this information out to you continue to do this? guest: they have been doing it for one point five years. the recent data is the 31st -- june 30. they have yet to get back to me. host: we will see. come back as well. i appreciate your time. up next on the washington journal, about 25 minutes left in our program. we returned to the news about

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the country. c-span is brought to you by the cable or satellite provider. announcer: washington journal continues. host: for the rest of our show, we're getting your reaction to to deal reached last night avert a government shutdown at the end of the week. it is a border security deal called by the new york times, a deal in principle to avoid the shutdown. it was reached by democratic and republican house and senate negotiators who have been working of the past several weeks ever since the government was reopened since the 35 day shutdown would still need to be passed by the entire house and senate. the president would still need to sign that deal. here are some of the numbers. it would include one point 3375 four is go barriers. it allows for 55 miles of

restrictions on location based on community and environmental concerns according to those briefed on the deal. that is a fraction of the more than 200 miles of steel and concrete wall president trump demanded when he wanted $5.7 billion for his border wall. beyond the border barriers, the agreement which funds the department of homeland security would also include $1.7 billion for technology to help secure the border wall. .e will talk about more details we want to get your reaction. if you think the president should sign off on it. mike, a democrat -- good morning. go ahead. caller: i am glad they reached a decision on this wall. it is something that is

important to put people back to work. the wall is an important issue. i hope i can dig tunnels underneath it. that was my concern. at the same time, i am glad they changed. i hope they have. we can putbit -- americans back to work. on our line for republicans, go ahead. i would sign that the people who lost their paychecks. thin steel like the or whatever. early on in your program, you -- we like things cheap in this country.

we like chinese cheap stuff. immigrants working cheap. that is great that the chamber of commerce. host: do you think this is a fair deal? caller: well. we've been arguing this back and forth. car. down with a likething is -- it is just a coward in heaven and you talk to god. do think it is going to be something great? i do not care. i am 80 years old i will -- years old -- i will never see it. host: mike, an independent, good morning. is as he takesf that $1.37 billion fee be doing the right thing. it is an insult. he should -- he should go the

whole wall. when he goes to build is, we should declare the national emergency. republicans, democrats -- they are the same. they do not want that wall. he's declare a national emergence and when he does, it will take it to the ninth district and what that judge says, she has got to stop. he said ignore that judge. they are cold it will branches of government. the ninth district has no business telling them he must cease and desist. let them take it to the supreme court. if he does it in little pieces he will be gone and they will being -- been a while. you have to be naive to think we do not have a problem. it costs billions of dollars to support coming in this country. we are a welfare state. host: you say 1.37 5 billion is

an insult -- to? people who wanted to keep the sovereignty of the country. it is an insult to mr. trump. $1.6 billion. now run along. he should do it, declare the emergency and let the supreme court get the case and let them stop them and we will find out who was on the supreme court. the $1.6 mentioned billion member. that was an offer made last year by the senate appropriations committee. $1.6 billion number would have paid for 65 miles of fencing in the bill that passed through that committee last year. this number 1.375 in dollars for fencing and physical barriers. the president originally asked for $5.7 billion before the shutdown. liz is next in gilmer, texas.

a republican. liz? caller: yes. host: go ahead. caller: i'm from texas and i see a lot of this on c-span. i appreciate the opportunity to be able to call in. i am a first-time voter -- border when it comes to president trump. they always go home with something else. before they fix anything, it is in the past. for example, all the stuff in the justice department. all the stuff with the fbi. it has not been fixed. they always want something else.

as far as border security, i have been in texas all my life. i do not consider myself an immigrant to this nation. -- fall off and avocado truck. i was born in texas. i am not an immigrant. and foremost, i am an american. you have these independence, republicans when is -- rub -- republicans. when is america going to be a government option as well as being a democrat or republican or and independent? host:. the schedule on capitol hill. the senate is expected in at 10:00. the house is a way.

the reason for houses away is because members are attending the funeral in michigan of the late congressman john dingell, the longest serving member of congress. they left from capitol hill this morning. that is a funeral taking place at the church of the divine child in dearborn, michigan. we will air that funeral live at 11:00 a.m. you can watch it on c-span.org. -- listen to it on the radio app. joe biden will speak as well as congressman john lewis. dundeeket will -- with will travel. later, motorcade driven past that capital will be driven past the capital on the east plaza of capitol hill and another funeral will take place in washington, d.c. on thursday at holy trinity catholic church.

that is a 10:30 a.m. on thursday. we expect from bill clinton, steny hoyer, john boehner all expected to speed at that funeral. flax in thecapital at half staff to that happens. is next from ohio. republican, good morning. good morning. it is upsetting to the republican party. we voted president trump in theory we voted on the issue. one of them was a wall. the majority ruled. that is what happens in america. i do not understand why the democrats are insulting and disrespect to the american people. the thing they are doing is a self-serving agenda. they are arrogant, condescending. to see just go grown people

stand on national news and say we will not give you the money you need is off the wall. it is arrogant. i do not understand what is going on with our nation. we are centrally divided on everything. i would like to see an american vote for the wall. let us vote if we want a wall and stop playing with us. host: how did you feel about the results of the 2018 election and all these issues coming up democratst election, taking the house, republicans picking up seats in the senate. how did you read that? was an onslaught of democrats who decided to vote . it did not make the -- any difference if the houses in control. the senate makes the final call and the president does. the senate did make their final call and i do not understand the rhetoric going on. if they think the american people are appreciating are excited about this, they need to go in another direction because

we are not. it causes you to be so angry against your government. i am angry against my government , just the garbage coming out and the lack of respect for the american people. when you hear in the news have also rather house but do not want balls on the border to protect america, they need to rethink their position because they are off-the-wall and it is disturbing. castleberry,and florida, a democrat. morning.ood having to feel all these people that are angry. i do not want the wall simply because 99.9% of the people that actually live on that border are going to have their farms land

-- this has been going on since 1970. i wish some of these people would open a book and stop spew lie afterd lie after lie. then you guys, everybody in the world has got to see that life --life texasl --ie fest fest in texas. it is an vanity. -- insanity. he is distracting from the mean -- from the things that need to be done. about 10 minutes left in our program. keep calling in about this deal they can together late yesterday that whatever a government shutdown, a deal on border security. we have been talking about it for most of our show.

we will talk about it quite a bit for the rest of the week. writing is the deadline for the government. me -- to news out of arizona, wanted to keep you updated. mark kelly said he would run for , givingte seat democrats in early transverse the have not held since 1960's. kelly spent more than 54 days in space through three nasa missions, turned to politics in the years since. his wife gala gifford survived a an assassination siblings.at included partisanship and polarization and gerrymandering and corporate money have ruined our politics.

about theded i care state of arizona because of that, i decided to launch a campaign. retreat fromthis science and data and facts. if we do not take these issues seriously, we cannot solve these problems. we need to bring people together for all parts of the states in all walks of life. join us. full speed ahead. host: the senate coming in at 10:00 today, but committee hearings already underway this morning on the senate side on capitol hill, including the senate arms services committee theearing from the head of

pacific command. that is happening on c-span3 now. that is admiral davidson testifying about hearing. it is james in half or motorhome a, the chairman of that hearing is best if you questions. if you want to watch that, we're airing it on c-span3. james has been waiting in tallahassee, florida in independence. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? in reference to this compromise, i do not like it. i would rather he did not find it. i do not want him to do it government shutdown, but i do right todoes have the iticiate or however you say moratorium on migration and

refugees and not only the people as right nowr retroactively. they get to be seen as far as ase hurt as -- heard as far legal immigration and i would not sign it. until the yield. it sounds real good. he does not matter. those of us who live with it no better. livese a legal woman who on the only two story house on the block. $40,000 yearng me of our tax dollars. she does not get any money. she has seven kids with five daddies and raking in $1600 a month for that place to be rented. they get free cable. they get $1000 worth of food stamps. there is free computers.

host: how is that possible if she is illegal? caller: because of her case. the anchor babies count. you have to take care of them so she is in a five bedroom, 3.5 threeom, through the -- garages. with a concrete wall around it. host: what are your feelings on legal immigration versus illegal immigration? with legalm fine immigration. my grandfather migrated here in the 1920's. he went ellis island and did all the right things. i am fine with it. i really am. i have got no problem with legal immigration. ,f the democrats will not yield we should do the moratorium. it is not the same with the shutdown. it will not go around. the reason i am independent is the republicans are wimps and they capitulate and the

democrats are getting into marxism. it is insane. my father died in world war ii fighting to stop communism and socialism and now we have them in our congress. it is outrageous. host: this is kathy in oregon. a republican. announcer: -- caller: thank you for taking my call. i am in a blue state. in oregon, portland regardless kerry,ures and eugene everything that is going to happen. all of us republicans are independence can -- independents can vote. i am originally from texas. i will keep it brief. i lived in texas on my life, was born and raised in east texas.

i saw people being taken back in the early 1970's across a milk plant and take them across the border and then i started traveling and go through paso. it is the safest city. i agree. i know what it was like. you did not have a choice because you were never on the line. i later drive a truck through 48 thats and i saw the crime , so i am in el paso signing that i wish people would stop being divided on 65. i've never seen such division. president trump is trying to do the best he can. all of us are immigrants through ellis island. , many's family are

generations ago. let's stop being let's be behind our president. he has good intentions. whether republican or anything, it depends on where you live. a sanctuary states. so is california, so is washington. facing.is what we are just a couple minutes left in our program. i did want to get to one other issue that came up in this deal, the issue of the tension bed. it was the issue that stalled talks over the weekend and here is how the negotiators came to --house democrats said they wanted to impose a $34,000 detained byeople

immigration enforcement officials and they wanted a lower cap of $16,500 on the number of those detained who could come from illegal immigrants arrested in the interior of the united states. the final deal set the goal of getting to 40,520 dollars detention beds with democrats dropping their demands for their 6500 caps. detainees a day and the white house asked for 52,000 beds. you're going to hear more about this issue in the coming days. deals get released. we're expecting the year more from congress. we will hear about a time they are expected to vote on the coming days. college park maryland, a democrat. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am doing well. caller: i think they should sign the bill right away.

definitely do not shutdown the government because that is ludicrous to have people in the united states live off food lines and it's great for the little they are going to have presidents are going to do that. he said -- he said i believe in a secure border. what did he say? most of the immigrants are illegal that come through the port of entry is a fact. wasting billions of dollars on doug tunnelsll, anyway. repair the wall. our last caller in today's washington journal, but stick around. come back tomorrow. i will be talking more about this deal in the coming days. we will be back at 7:00 a.m.

eastern. in the meantime, have a great tuesday. ♪ >> the funeral mass for john dingell, the longest serving member of congress in history, begins in about an hour. we'll have live coverage from dear born, michigan. the u.s. house is not in session due to that event. house speaker nancy pelosi will be there. along with former vice president joe biden, georgia democrat john lewis, michigan republican fred upton, and others. the funeral mass begins at 11:00 eastern. after the service, former congressman dingell will be transferred to washington, d.c., where he'll lie in state at the u.s. capitol. live coverage begins at 3:45 p.m. eastern here's on c-span. mr. dingell died last thursday.

he was 92. >> the c-span bus recently traveled to louisiana. asking folks, what does it mean to be american? >> to be an american means that you're part of a community that innately able to overcome the obstacles and diverse in many ways, that includes everyone. >> to be an american has a mindset you can do anything you put your mind to. no matter what that value comes from, no matter where you're from. when you come here you can literally do anything. you can do it. you will achieve everything. >> to me being american means that you love this country. i mean truly love this country. it's brokenness just like the people, we're all broken. the country can be broken sometimes. maybe it was broken, but to love it all the same. also think that being american

means you stand for the constitution, the bill of rights, and you wish to uphold those. if you don't know them, if you don't uphold them, or you think that we don't need them, those are the formations of our country. that's what we built upon. i say that you would be un-american to not be devoted to those. >> i think that to be american means that we get to stand up and express ourselves. that we have the right to express our voice, our actions, nd to close a 1914 hole by wilcox to send by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men. >> what i think i it means to be an american is having the right to your own future. whether that means choosing where you live, taking whatever job you want. living the way you want. spending your money however you want it. that's what it means to be american. having the right to choose your own future.

>> voices from the road on -span. >> federal reserve chair jerome powell held a town hall meeting with teachers. over the next 50 minutes he talks to them about how the fed works. its impact on the economy, as well as consumer financial issues. [applause] chairman powell: thank you to all the educators who are here with us in washington or are joining us online. i look forward to responding to our questions. i will be brief. the fed has organized this event because of the importance of

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