declaration. howard buskirk, senior editor at communications daily. >> we think that is a very bad idea. we think that will destroy jobs in the united states for a german government owned company and a japanese billionaire company. we don't see why the german government project these should seek to make money off american jobs, but that is what the merger will do. >> watch the communicators tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. morning, a roundtable discussion on the week ahead and washington with associated press reporter darleen super vale -- super later, robert daly from te wilson center kissinger institute discusses the latest in the trade talks between the u.s. and china and what it means

for future tariffs. as always, we take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter as well. "washington journal" is next. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ back from the presidential day recess, the house and senate return for a full week of legislative work and hearings on trumpl hill as president today departs for vietnam and his second summit with north korean leader kim jong-un. good morning and welcome to "washington journal" on monday, february 25, 2019. investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election also drawing to a close and indications house democrats would appeal and subpoena for release of the

mueller investigation. we are going to ask you this first hour, what you think. should the mueller investigation report be made public? if yes, the number is 202-748-8000. if you say no, that number is 202-748-8001. commentslso post your on our facebook page or send us a tweet. we will read some of those @cspanwj. good morning to you on monday the 25th. a couple of notes from president trump and news from the white house late yesterday and this morning. in the front page of this morning's wall street journal, u.s. will hold off on china tariffs citing progress in talks, president trump delays a boost in the duties. the president said he would allay an increase in tariffs on chinese goods set to take effect at the end of this week citing

substantial process -- progress on issues after a weekend of talks. we will spend more time later in the program talking about trade talks with china and what may be ahead. the president within the last 15 minutes or so weighing in on the national emergency he declared on the southern border a week ago or so with this tweet. we have a state of emergency at our southern border. border patrol, our military, and local law enforcement are doing a job, but without the wall, you cannot have border security, drugs, gangs, human trafficking must be stopped. before leaving, president trump weighing in on the mueller investigation, asking about its potential release and whether that should be made public. here is what president trump tweeted late last week on the investigation talking about senator richard burr.

he did want to show you the headline in the washington times. democrats are prepared to subpoena for mueller report. they write the house intelligence committee chair schiff said he was absolutely prepared to sue the trump administration and subpoena robert mueller if the report is not made schiff said s public. on rubber -- mueller report possible russian interference is expected to be released soon although not this week. the justice department is not legally required to release the document to the public. mr. schiff made clear he would do whatever necessary to make the findings public. he made those comments yesterday on abc's this week. [video clip] >> we will subpoena the record and bring bob mueller in to

court to testify. i think the department understands they are going to have to make this public. will understand that as well. he applied for the job by demonstrating a bias against the mueller investigation. he has also not been willing to follow the advice of ethics lawyers. if he were to try to withhold or very any part of this -- bury any part of this report, that would be his legacy. there will be pressure on the department and the attorney general to be forthcoming. >> are you prepared to take the administration to court? >> absolutely. we are going to get to the bottom of this and share the information with the public. that is adam schiff

yesterday. president trump in that tweet last week saying richard burr, the senate intelligence committee said after interviewing over 200 witnesses and studying 200 pages of documents, "we have found no collusion between the the trump campaign and russia." the report not expected to be released this week, but our question for you this morning, should it be made public? let's go to gary in sterling, virginia. tell us your thoughts. caller: good morning. thank you very much for taking my call. i would like to say, mr. mueller , first, this investigation, they need to look into the manchester city bombing league. exposed thee they pictures of the suicide bombs that worked and gave out the names of the perpetrators.

that is information headquarters andys wants to know about put out a bomb they had. host: how does that tie into the broader mueller investigation? caller: this is part of the collusion thing. , everybody shut us down. they weren't letting us have any intelligence because this bombing leak. i am no toymaker. i used to lay dynamite. when i saw that bomb, i said, that is too much information, they should not be putting that out there. host: let's hear from cormac who also says yes in eastern pennsylvania. caller: i think after having the investigation go on for the majority of the presidency, the

american public at least deserves to hear or see what the results are. i think other big news i would like to see -- what is in the plea deal between jeff epstein see ifxander acosta -- there is some kind of information released host: to the public. host:john says no in california, up early this morning. hi, john. caller: yes. i said no basically because the report from mueller goes to the ag and he reviews it under a current federal law and regulations and decides whether that report can be released and it is pretty much his decision. there are a lot of things that came out during the investigation. a lot of people forget. it is not a criminal

investigation. it was counterintelligence investigation. on the front of it, there has to be a large swath of the information in the report probably not fit to be released, some classified level. that is more complicated than just saying no. that is why i am saying the mueller report doesn't get released, per se. it's up to the ag to decide. host: good point. before we get too deep into the conversation, the mueller report is not expected to be released after speculation it would be. when it is released, should it be made public? say at theions conclusion of special counsel's work, he or she shall provide the attorney general a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions. to help ensure the congressional and public confidence in the

integrity of the process, the regulations imposed on the attorney general, these requirements to the judiciary committees of congress and these will occur on the appointment of a special counsel, the attorney general's decision to remove a special counsel, and the completion of the special counsel's work. these will be brief notifications of an outline and the actions and reasons for them from the department of justice. source ofhe principal the problems with the final report requirement as set forth in the independent counsel act is the fact the report typically has been made public unlike the closing documentation of any other criminal investigation. the single fact provides incentive to over investigate in order to avoid potential public criticism for not having turned over every stone and create the dental harm to individual privacy interest. create potential harm to

individual private interest. let's go to our next caller in georgia. good morning, who says yes. covington, georgia, you are on the air. go ahead. caller: yes. i think since we have been having all these investigations going on and going on using the taxpayer money and never seeing report, where are the papers? host: let's hear next from either 202-748-8000 if you agree it should be released. no.748-8001 if you say we will get to more of your calls. over the weekend, more violence at the border between colombian and venezuelan. the vice president headed to venezuela to meet with the opposition leader.

this is the front page of the washington post and their story about the situation. foes plan their next move. the trump administration is preparing to make a more forceful push to unseat nicolas maduro after a weekend plan to coax his military to abandon him and allow hundreds of tons of deadlyarian aid ended in violence and little clarity about what comes next. vice president pence will travel to colombia today to meet with regional liebert -- leaders including juan guaido and discuss options for a more muscular front against madera -- maduro. administration officials said sunday the weekend violence frustrated those plans, making

more action necessary. you can read more at washingtonpost.com. a question for you asking about the release of the investigation --mueller investigation report. should it be made public when it is released? joan, good morning. caller: i have said this before and i think when it is released or whenever it is finished, it should be released to the public and if there is no collusion, the dnc should be charged and day should pay for that investigation. you said the investigation has gone on long enough, do you feel like it is time to wrap it up and end it? caller: it has gone on too long and it should be wrapped up. host: that is joan in south carolina. thanks for that call. the mueller report -- a subpoena is under consideration. we heard comments from adam

schiff we played for you a short while ago. from the washington post, they write trey gowdy of south mocked congressman shift on "futures," saying no witnesses have alleged conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia. that three eyed raven, adam schiff, who can see things nobody else can see says he has evidence. opinions on whether democrats would be able to subpoena sunday.were split on the acting solicitor general in the obama administration said it was "certainly possible that mueller would've testify before congress." in indiana, michael says yes. you are on the air. caller: i believe that information should be made available to the public. the public taxpayer pays for our government.

therefore, information should be made available to the public at all times. host: that decision will come down to the new attorney general, william barr, who was asked about the mueller investigation during his confirmation hearings on capitol hill. let's take a look. [video clip] making --u admit to commit to making any report public and available to the public? caller: i am going to make -- >> i am going to make as much information available i can consistent with the rules and regulations part of the special counsel regulations. >> will you commit to making any report on the obstruction of justice public? >> that's the same answer. a reminder, all of that hearing can be found on our website at c-span.org. that was the nominee and now attorney general william barr. when the mueller investigation report is released, should it be made public?

yes, 202-748-8000. if you say no, 202-748-8001. let's go to slidell, louisiana, and chris who says yes. good morning, chris. caller: it should be made public. host: tell us why. what are your thoughts on that? -- there is too much going on with this president. i did not vote for the president. i thought the american people were really stupid to allow that man to get as far as he got, but that is another subject. case, i thinkular this information ought to be made public. host: let's hear from eddie in florida who also agrees. good morning. how much have you been paying attention to the reports on the mueller investigation? i have beento day

paying attention to those crooks. every day, all hours of the day and they need to release it to the public. who does he work for? private people or does he work for the public? like straight news with the public. be straight with us, this is not russia. host: saying no on our question is anne in north carolina. tell us why you think the report should be kept private or secret. caller: i don't think it should be released to the public until shows his evidence. he keeps saying he has evidence and he wants to investigate. let him tell us what his evidence is. he should be made to answer that question. thank you. host: your comments and questions. 202-748-8000 if you say yes, it

should be made public. 202-748-8001 if you say no. the press by democrats as well ahead of the weekend appearance by some democrats and --ublicans democrats pressed to make mueller report public. top house democrats are pressing the attorney general to release a public version of special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation report. in a letter to barr on friday said they expect the findings to be released publicly without delay and to the maximum extent permitted by law. it said there is a significant public interest in the full disclosure of information about the nature and scope of the russian government's efforts to undermine our democracy. read more at thehill.com. next up is ohio, mason. good morning to you. caller: i don't think the whole

shane -- whole thing should be released. obviously the parts involving intelligence concerns, but the parts that should not include the names of people that aren't newsworthy should not be included. i do think to the senate, the congress should receive the especially the committees -- the intelligence committees. host: in saying no, is it your thinking that perhaps outside of security concerns, is part of side ornking that one the other could use the information in a political way against the other side? caller: exactly. i think -- they should eliminate not --f people that are not vital that their names be released.

that should be referred to as person 1 or person 2 unless they are vital to public interest. host: thanks for that. lawrence is next in savannah, georgia. you are on the air, go ahead. caller: i think it should be made public. the investigation belongs to the electednd it is about officials and all the investigations made public. if it's not classified information, it should be made public. no man is above the law. they made some emphasis they would wait until donald trump is out of office before they file charges. president kennedy said no man and no office is above the law. they keep saying they don't have no constitution to go to. it happened before, presidents

have been in trouble before and presidents are no more important than you or me. they are set us and of the united states elected by citizens of the united states and they should be governed by the laws of the united states. no man is above the law in america, no man. dictatorship. this is a democratic society. host: we are certainly likely to hear more about the upcoming release of the mueller investigation. the house and senate returning today. the house back at 2:00 eastern and the senate back at 3:00 with the senate weakening their week scented toading -- beginning their week with the reading of george washington's address and it will be read by deb fischer. members are weighing in on the mueller investigation. plenty of opinions not just from our viewers and listeners, but members of congress. mark meadows, former head of the

house freedom caucus tweets this. listen to what democrats, including adam schiff are starting to tell you. they are declining to say whether they will accept the mueller report if it finds no collusion. the russian collusion narrative is falling apart and they know it. this one from senator sheldon whitehouse saying if the stories are active it, mueller may turn his report over to barr soon. the justice department should make the report public. from eric from california tweeting this, if mueller says he is done and was allowed to follow the evidence, let's see the report. if he has been forced to stop investigating, there will be hel l to pay. senator jeff merkley saying if the attorney general withhold

any portion of the report, it will interfere with congress' ability to fulfill its role as a check on the executive. congress must demand access to the entire mueller report. your tweets are welcome @cspanwj and we will read those in a minute. let's hear from randy in minneapolis who says release the port -- the report when it comes out. good morning, randy. we lost randy. we will go to winter haven, and karen. caller: good morning. i would like the report to be made public. the only thing i know they will have to hold back are those areas where trials will still be taking place and that evidence needs to be kept quiet until the trial has commenced or taken place. other than that, everything should be made public because this is actually a digital

attack problem. our whole country is being digitally attacked by russia and iran and china. host: a story in this morning's news about that, we will get to that in a little bit. president trump held a news conference last week in the rose garden and talked about a number of issues and was asked if he reportcussed the mueller with his new attorney general. [video clip] >> i have not. >> do you expect to? >> at some point i will be talking about it. you know the nice part? there was no collusion or anything. there was no phone calls, no nothing. we have -- i won the race because i was a better candidate than she was and it had nothing to do with russia and everybody knows it is a hoax. one of the greatest hoaxes ever

perpetrated on this country. if it is an honest report, it will say that. if it is not an honest report, it won't. host: president trump from the oval office. your comments on twitter. if the report is made public, it should not be redacted and all the supporting evidence, methodologies, testimonials need to be included for public review. i want to see unredacted size of warrants. -- whens the caller 5004licans pay for the hundred 86 investigations and 475,000 benghazi investigations that found zero collusion. this one says the new attorney general could decide to make the public in 50report years like the kennedy assassination papers. david, you say yes, release the report. caller: public in 50

years like the i think it shoule released to the public. some of it would have to be redacted, but most of it would be released. --annot get over how shift schiff and all these democrats keep complaining about whether barr would release it or not, when he said he would release as much as he could. if it comes out nothing, they will not accept it anyway, just like the election. that is all i have got to say. host: david in madison heights, michigan. hello caller: there. good morning and thank you for taking my call. to that last caller, hillary clinton actually won. she got 5 million more votes. popular vote should always win. getting back to the mueller report, look at how many of trump's swamp has pled guilty to lying. why are they all lying about

russia? -- that thealler intelligence should not be released because it might contain intelligence. look at what prompted the day after he fired comey, he had russians come to the oval office and gave out classified information. why is everyone lying for this guy? why is everyone protecting this swamp man? i don't understand it. of course, this should be released to the public so we can see how guilty trump is. we all know he is guilty. if it would have been obama, all these deplorable callers that essay don't release it, all those callers would be saying release it, release it. clean.a was squeaky if he was guilty like this

corrupt president we have now, he would be hanging from the highest tree. you know it and i know it. host: should the mueller investigation report be made public? to be clear, it has not been related -- completed or released yet. if you believe it should be released and made public, 202-748-8000. if you say no, 202-748-8001. another issue which will continue to be the focus of certainly the house early in the week is the national emergency declared by president trump on the border wall seeking $8 billion in funding for that border wall and security measures on the southern border. this is from the politics section in the washington times. trump says he will veto a bill that blocks emergency claims. congress is barreling toward its first vote this week to try to overturn president trump's aboard her wall emergency declaration with the odds

favoring them winning the initial skirmishes, but ultimately losing the fight on capitol hill. he writes mr. trump will 100% veto any bill that does manage to pass blocking his emergency claims and key republican say there is more than enough gop support in the house to sustain the president. we will talk more about that in our next segment. the house rules committee is meeting today to mark up the legislative -- begin the legislative process on the national emergency. look for coverage of that hearing this afternoon on the c-span networks. let's go to trenton, new jersey trenton from frazier in who says yes, make the report public. caller: the first thing i would like to be -- the church should have a say in this because these

are the things the church looked upon and put it in the public because these are going to come down in history. everything written at this time. the young generation, which is the kids, they are supposed to understand. orm not thinking republican democrat, we are speaking about the truth. nothing but the truth and let the kids have the say because they are the ones we are to teach and understand exactly what is going on. host: let's hear from eugene, oregon. larry says do not make the report public. good morning, larry. think ourah, i don't society is really going to survive without a corporate sponsored please state.

state. report like this are going to undermine that. in the worst case, democracy could break out. virginiae is jack in who agrees, do not make the report public. jack and virginia, go ahead. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: yes, we can. caller: hello, bill. can you hear me? yes, we can. you are on the air. go ahead. caller: i wanted to correct -- first of all, i think it is c-span's yes, we can. you are on the air. go ahead. caller: the large responsibility of the public listening who are not very well educated on the system we have, et cetera, and what is going on in the government and they get these wrong opinions and build on them and the news media coming out becomes like a stopsnowball nobody can

because people are confused who to believe and somebody like bill, for example, when that stupid guy calls and says , butry has 5 million votes our system, it is not more votes. it is electoral college and that is the thing. and when her husband won the first time, it was electoral college that put him in there. i don't know what he is talking about for that reason and i think c-span has a huge responsibility to correct the record so the public would not go on repeating the same thing over and over again and manipulating people's thinking. thank you. host: thank you. a question for you on washington journal is asking you whether you agree or not if the mueller investigation should be made

public. the final report appears to be imminent within the coming weeks or so. if you say yes, it should be made public. 202-748-8001 if you say no. here is hampstead, maryland, andre, go ahead. caller: i say release the report. owethe people calling -- we it to the people who have lost their lives in all of our wars. fascists, weis and are fighting the same people now. those individuals do not want this report released. this is an attack on the united states, and insider threat attack against the united states. the shooting hasn't started yet. what they are doing is drip, drip, slowly taking care of the

soft target before the real world -- real war starts. shootingn you say the hasn't started, what do you mean by that? caller: the real war, the nazis and the neo-nazis and all these people, confederates, these people are still fighting the war. they have signed onto this against the united states. they don't believe in inclusion and diversity. this country is about inclusion and diversity, they want to take us back. they haven't realized they lost those wars. they lost world war ii, the confederacy. they want to take the country back. that is my opinion. host: let's hear from jim in pennsylvania. i think if there isn't anything to hide, everyone

should know what is going on. host: is that it? thank you, jim. marsha in's -- in chicago says do not release the report. good morning. caller: i don't think we should release everything, it should be up to the ag, as always. there are always things that should not be released to the general public. and aw how cnn, msnbc, lot of the other stations are taking things out of control. i don't think we should release everything to them and we should look into fast and furious, how come nobody ever talks about that where eric holder under barack obama released an ak-47's cache of battle instruments to chicago. people have been killed and nobody says anything about that. i am so sick of democrats

because they want to take this country down. host: that is marsha. 202-748-8000 is the number to call if you think the report should be made public. 202-748-8001 if you say no. pointing toarlier this story, this is the new york times,, this should come as a that president energizedplomacy has state hackers targeting companies and government agencies in the united states with renewed gusto after a multilayer -- multiyear lull. russians have already started hacking european civil society groups before elections in may. come sitter -- consider this a preview of 2020. hackers areerson --

hitting banks with cyber attacks. harder to track down and more effective. we are no longer talking denial of service attacks that makes websites pickup, they are to stealg websites traffic as it passes between government agencies, banks, and businesses that manage their infrastructure. you can read more at nytimes .com. charlie, what are your thoughts? caller: good morning. i think this all should be transparent. i wanted to know mostly about the transparency vis-a-vis pfizer and everything behind this and then i want robert mueller investigated for all his hypocrisy and comey, all the mountainous evidence against the clinton foundation, the obama administration selling uranium to these russians. i never heard a thing about it

while it was happening. this has been going on for a long time and this deep state stuff, they are the nazis. the clown that said can federalist -- confederates like rightful lawthe and order in this country, not this rabble that wants to turn us into venezuela. i want transparency right down the line and i want these investigated. this is nothing different than the mafia did forever. i am an ethnic. my family came over here in the early 1900s. the white anglo-saxon protestants that built and laid out the foundation of this country should not being deified . they are the greatest people that ever lived.

i am greek and we are pretty good, but nothing touches these american founding fathers. this is a total outrage. victor ino next to columbia, maryland. good morning, victor. caller: good morning. we have a constitutional republic with limits and rules and procedures for almost everything. it seems around every turn, every turn is -- if democrats do not get their way, they want to bypass the processes. there is a procedure in place for release of these documents. i am not even sure why we are having this conversation to begin with. why are we talking about things and judgingty vote people -- what happened to innocent before proven guilty?

investigationdled . talk about all these people who were indicted, but look at how many of those indictments are actually tied to russian collusion. look at the facts. host: you are talking like the manifold indictment, et cetera? caller: correct. maybe one or two, most of them are corruption charges. you would walk away with just as just as manynts, times people would say i do not remember, i do not recall, we all remember hillary clinton hearings, 20,000 emails deleted after subpoena was issued.

where is the? ? subpoena for that nothing. host: thanks for the call. you mentioned william barr, the attorney general will make that the decision -- make the decision in terms of the report. writing with the new attorney general, he became the most important person in america when it comes to determining the fate of robert mueller's final report. call aboutake the who gets a copy of the report inside the leak prone trump administration. he will decide how hard it is for congress to tap mueller's work for its own probe. the times reporting it means all told, no figure will have such a singular influence over the fallout from mueller final report including how much damage it may do to the president himself.

willare three ways barr make the decision that determines the fallout from the mueller report from the white thee to the congress to courts. he decides how much of the report goes to congress and the white house and he would support congressional efforts -- would thwart congressional efforts and could stop a grand jury from sending materials to congress. joe in spring hill, florida, who says yes, make the report public. good morning. caller: yes, good morning. i would think transparency is a terrific saying. what about trump's taxes? that would be transparent and if you are so worried about the wall, why don't you -- you give a tax break he gave to all the rich, why don't you spend all that on the wall question marks there's a lot of things he could have done and people are complaining about transparency.

wensparency is terrific, have always wanted that in government. i appreciate if that would be taken care of that way. thank you very much. host: tim, good morning, who says yes also. go ahead. caller: good morning. . am a taxpayer we should be provided the information, bottom line. up,: russell next hollywood, florida. how are you? caller: absolutely. completely release this report, we are going to have talking heads on both sides aisle guessing and keeping this thing going on and on. give the people of the united states a little credibility and confidence they have brains able to read and understand what it is about so they do not have to guess what is in it because that

keeps the controversy going, keeps the guessing going. we are dividing ourselves continually by being kept in the dark. the people deserve it. they are entitled to it. they don't have to keep blocking things from the breakfast. host: what about redacting or keeping people private who are --just ancillary to the investigation whose reputations could be damaged? i have no problem with redacting because that is an important part of privacy and if it doesn't affect the real understanding of the report, there is no problem with redacting.

without full exposure, why aren't we entitled to these documents? why are the american people denied the right to look at the documents and make a decision themselves based on the facts, not on what cnn or fox says, but the facts of the report? host: the mueller investigation may be the most anticipated since the can start report, the lewinsky investigation. when ken starrg ofeased the investigation clinton, all of washington paused to digest the document with the salacious details of president's sexual dalliance with an intern. it was made public at the same time it was sent to public. the mother report will not be anything like that -- v mueller

report -- the mueller report will not be anything like that. took gordon in clinton, maryland who said the report should not be made public. i say the report should be made public. host: i apologize, go ahead. caller: most definitely, the american people have a right to know. i want to clear the air for everybody talking about a 3000 emails from hillary clinton. was dance hillary clinton indies emails, who ever received the emails should have disclosed it by now. that's the biggest hoax there is. dance hillary clinton indiessomebody on the oe email.

in sun city,next california. hello there, go ahead. caller: i think they should be released in the interest of public knowledge. we spend millions of dollars investigating in time and resources. for those people who are saying democrats want to do this and tear down trump, he is the only one speaking. speaks with --mueller speaks with indictments and guilty pleas and trump supporters wanted to ignore that. i think it should be made public and then there would not be any doubt. trump's narrative of no collusion, everybody is saying there is no collusion. everyone is not saying that.

this is an attack on our nation. host: the wall street journal reporting with their headline schiff is prepared to seek testimony from mueller. congressional democrats are .agerly awaiting the report many democrats in congress, longding nancy pelosi have said any impeachment proceedings in congress should only come -- come only after mr. mueller's work is finished. the inquiry led to criminal charges against 43 -- 34 people, five of whom have been convicted. a bit more of that article from senator roy blunt, a member of the senate intelligence committee. he told "face the nation," that mr. mueller could end up testifying in the senate depending on his findings. mr. schiff also previewed a closed-door intelligence committee hearing with michael

cohen, who implicated the president in federal crimes. before cohen testifying two congressional committees this week. mapleton, georgia is next up, william, good morning. caller: thanks for having me on c-span. i think the report should be released and for all republicans who believe it should not, explain to me how it is possible you think there should be charges against hillary clinton -- charges to emails against eric holder, investigating bill clinton for meeting on the tarmac. you have not seen a shred of evidence, but you think an investigation should be done and when you have an opportunity to actually see evidence on a real investigation, you don't want to see that. to me? that

host: edward, are you calling from here in the nation's capitol area? the naval annex? caller: that is where i used to live. right now i live in hyattsville, same basic place. i want to make some quick points what i gleaned regarding the immigration situation. republicans get their dirt cheap labor from that. the chamber of commerce is happy about that or it they love the .acet it wrote -- it maintains that balance and it seems the leverage for our ruling class. feeds into ahis

social welfare program. the tax base that comes in can be taxed in a wide assortment of ways because they make more .eople to be taxed they are older and have more health conditions and whatnot, happy. the reason why this is happening is the c-word, contraction. something western governments are deathly afraid of. japan is not afraid of contraction, but we tend to fear it. host: that is edward. we hear this morning from president trump before departing to vietnam. meeting for breakfast with our nation's governors and then off to vietnam for a very important summit with kim jong-un with complete denuclearization, north korea will rapidly become an economic powerhouse. without it, more of the same.

it chairman kim will make a wise decision. report isueller released, should it be made public? if you say yes, 202-748-8000. if you say no, 202-748-8001. in new york, this is mark. go ahead with your comment. caller: i just wanted to let the people know there has already set president -- precedent wendy congress subpoenaed -- when the congress subpoenaed documents. here is scott in florida. caller: good morning to you. yes, i believe the mueller report should be released. as the general public, we have paid for it and i have a little ditty for you. dumpety had a great

fall. all of his men and horses could not get him back together again. host: that is scott in california. fort pierce, florida, this is shea who is in agreement the report should be made public. go ahead. caller: good morning. is we are all americans whether we are democrats or republicans. impeached bill clinton, but the people that voted on it to haveit go through did not the same thing. i don't care what president trump does, he can blow this country up, it does not matter. in the senate, which democrats already minority. it takes 60 votes to impeach him. -- i hopes will never

i am wrong, but they don't care. they will never impeach him. he will never be all right. let's see what the report said. so thee transparent people know our election will be safe. it would be outraged, and it should be all of our americans. they got in our election and interfered with that. president trump will not be impeached because we are pretty much divided right down the line. it won't happen. he is going to survive, don't worry. host: that is florida and his thoughts on the molar investigation report --mueller investigation report. this one says republicans are afraid the report will show who was part of the nra-russia

collusion. carol said why were democrats not upset when obama said on an open mic to a high up in russia after he was reelected, he would have more leverage. imagine if that had been a republican and the media would be apoplectic. tj says democrats keep running up the votes to get the popular vote. you can brag about getting the popular vote while we put the next potus in again and again and again. .e are at @cspanwj late-night news last night, up late watching the oscars, the headline from the hollywood reporter, oscars "green book," overcomesto win -- best picture.in robbing netflix of its first ever win in the most coveted academy awards category. pine bluff, arkansas, good

morning to dorothy. caller: good morning. i believe the mueller report must be made public because there has been so many abuse of power and obstruction of justice and there have been so many of the people working around the indicted who have been to see firsthand what has been going on and the real truth about the president. host: joe is in woodbridge, virginia. hit here. caller: the whole premise of the mueller investigation, and that is all we have heard ground into our heads was collusion, collusion, collusion. the only thing that needs to be released the only thing the

american people need to know is was donald trump guilty of collusion with russia? i believe nothing else needs to be exposed, not the methods, not the means, not the ways, not agent names. that would be detrimental to future investigations and when that has been stated, because i believe there is no collusion. every single investigation in washington needs to be shut down and a new special counsel needs to be open into the dnc and hillary clinton and the becauseon and uranium 1 that is where the real collusion took place. host: you think it is absolutely important if indeed the there is non finds tied to the president, no collusion, that the report needs to be made public and clear on that? beler: the report should not made public. the only thing that should be stated is the conclusion, which

i believe is going to be there was no collusion. that was the premise of the investigation. the methods and the means and the ways in which these investigations are conducted will be up to the department of justice whether that is going to be disclosed on. a lot of times, that is in the national security interest not to disclose everything in those reports. nothing that has been drummed into everyone's heads is that he colluded with the russians. the only thing the american if donaldd to know is trump -- is, is donald trump a colluder or not? host: john in pennsylvania says the report should be made public. good morning. caller: i agree with the caller before me. it is a report that should be redacted. we don't need any stupid stuff released to the public that will make us think there was

something other than what is the truth and the facts. either he colluded with the russians or he did not. the other comment i would like to make is i would love to see people come out today against chuck todd at nbc for the comment he made yesterday about our president. chuck todd made a comment the first visit to north korea was a publicity act for the president and he did not get anything done and he stated he thinks this one is a photo op. we don't need this anymore. this country doesn't need people on tv telling people things that aren't true. i wish the fake news would stop. thank you. host: here is curtis in michigan, the president departing today for his summit with kim jong-un. good morning, curtis. caller: i think they should open it up and let us know what is going on.

reading a that, i was book and people should pick that up, they might learn something. host: here is william in agreement who says the molar --mueller report should be made public. caller: i believe it should be made public. there are a few comments callers are making about north korea, which is i believe like chuck todd said, is a stunt because chuck todd -- trump aligned himself with dictators and using them to keep him in office. the american people need to know the truth about him colluding with russia. when he said on the campaign trail that he can run for president and live off other people's money. host: if the final report says the

>> file report says that -- if the final report says there is no collusion with russia will you be satisfied that the investigation was fair and the special counsel did his job properly? caller: yes. the facts need to be out there that he did collude. it has been obvious. trump and his cronies in the white house are living off of other people's money. the taxpayers need to know the truth about him. he is a crook. >> we appreciate your calls. there is more ahead on washington journal. what islook ahead to happening here in washington, foreign-policy issues with the president traveling to the summit and vietnam. house democrats on capitol hill planning to vote on stopping the president hospital emergency border -- emergency order. we will be joined by darlene superville of the associated press and the washington post's mike debonis.

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tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span two. >> washington journal continues. on capitol hill and in foreign-policy discussions across the globe it will be a busy week for politics and policy. looking at the week ahead in washington, white house correspondent for the associated press darlene superville joins us. mike debonis of the washington post who covers congress. mike kelly will start for you and the headline for one of your pieces. house democrats have a tuesday vote on overturning the trump emergency declaration. the reelection gets rolling today with the house rules committee. this seems to be happening faster than originally thought. the house is moving forward on this quickly. what is behind their timing and motivation? they see no reason to wait in moving forward with this vote. this was declared on the 15th, that was the day congress left

town for a week. essentially the first time they could come back and vote on something. they have wasted not a moment in taking this vote. that goes to the senate and mitch mcconnell will have to decide when he is going to put this up, either the while he has come a certain window of time to schedule this. he has not announced his intentions. getting ahead of the house and senate, darlene superville, the president tweeting minutes ago about how he thinks the senate should handle this thing. i hope our great republican senators don't get led down the path of weak and ineffective border security. without strong borders we don't have a country. smart don'td fall into the democrats trap of crime!"ders and he has a vetoproof majority in the house and senate.

what is with his messaging on this? why does he feel like he needs to put these reminders out to the senate? >> there are some republican members of the senate who are not fully on board with the president and the way he went about declaring a national emergency to get the money to build the wall. some of them think it was not the right way to go. with the tweet he is trying to , don'tthem stick with me vote against me whenever this resolution does leave the house and make its way over to the senate. host: remind us why the president chose this route? guest: he was asking for $5.7 billion for the wall. what congress ended up giving him was something in the order of 1.4 billion. he has certain authorities as president. one of them was to declare a national emergency which he did a couple weeks ago. to be able tong move some money around from other accounts.

accounts for military construction, accounts for counter drug efforts run by the pentagon. he is looking at using a total of $8 billion to build the wall. ofhas somewhere in the order $6 billion and change to bring the total up to 8 billion for the wall. congress wasted no times in getting the wheels in motion in terms of this resolution to overturn the declaration. >> there is not much doubt that the president is going to veto this even if it does pass the senate. the majority is not there to override a veto. the widespread expectation is this battle shifts to the courts and it will be litigated in a number of venues. over the course of months. the thinking politically is, let's take these votes and get it out of the way and then this battle will shift to the courts.

house democrats are entertaining whether they will intervene in the courts or file their own lawsuit or join any other lawsuit. filing a friend of the court brief. that governstute national emergencies this is the clear option they have to act immediately. is the attorneys general of a number of states, correct? groupse are also other that have either filed challenges or given notice that they intend to sue the aclu. the big one is the one with 16 attorneys general challenging what the president did. host: i saw some tweets yesterday from the first lady and the president meeting with the nation's governors, the dinner at the white house part of the governors association meeting in washington. in general how are his relations with state governors? >> it depends.

i was looking at the guest list and i saw gavin newsom's name on the list. california and california has been a huge back and forth with the white house over money for their high-speed rail line, environmental issues. and now california is leading the 16 states suing over the border wall. you get in a room with the president and you are in the white house, everyone is on their best behavior. in other areas things get prettily. >> our guest this morning darlene superville of the associated press and mike debonis of the washington post are you we welcome your calls and your comments. .emocrats (202) 748-8000 republicans (202) 748-8001 independents and all others (202) 748-8002. we spent the first hour talking

about the release of the mueller investigation. it seems like it won't be released this week, but very high-profile hearings this week with the president's former attorney michael cohen. when is he testify and why do committees want to hear from him? guest: he is testifying three times that only once in public. he will be in front of the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors. on thursday is the house oversight committee which is a public hearing. that testimony has been circumscribed to matters involving the campaign and the president's business, not having to do with russia and the whole scope of what mueller is looking at. i think there is more than enough material in that realm that there is the possibility and likelihood of some pretty significant moments. i think it will be one of the marquee hearings on capitol hill this year.

that oversight hearing live on c-span three. and someng member republican members of that committee casting doubts on why michael cohen is being called at all. because he is already been convicted of a number of issues. casting aspersions on his credibility as a witness before that committee. that is something republicans have been doing for a long time. saying michael: not only has motivation to live based on his to wrongdoing and his desire not take accountability for his own acts. in theadmitted now course of his prosecution to having lied to congress. having lied to the house intelligence committee. casting doubt on whatever he said. democrats have taken the view that with it he has been for right about saying he has lied

in the past. he has now come clean. he has decided he does not want to carry water for the president anymore. say is what he intends to in public this week. superville, let's touch on the foreign policy issues the administration is tackling this week. very high profile. vice president mike pence and columbia meeting with the venezuelan opposition leader and speaking to people in colombia. front page of the washington ,imes and elsewhere expectations for concrete results are high with trump's second summit. what are you hearing from white house advisors etc. on what they hope to get out of this meeting? >> starting with the president himself at the dinner last night with the governor's. he talked about the great relationship that he has developed with the north korean leader kim jong-il.

the facta lot about that they have not tested missiles in some time. they have returned american soldiers remains. they have released hostages. the white house seems to have been trying to take down expectations for this meeting. they met in singapore last year it was all about denuclearization. the president now says he is in no rush for this to happen. he is happy that the testing stopped and all these other things have been happening. he also couched this meeting as the first in a series of meetings with kim jong-un. it seems as though they are lowering the bar and tried to disabuse people of the notion that some grand deal will come out of this meeting this week. it appears the president is happier in these higher profile one-on-one meetings with leaders. he comes fromt: the world of reality tv.

with kimmeeting he did jong-un in singapore was quite a production. i think he is looking forward to re-creating some of that with this meeting this week. host: let's hear from our colors. darlene superville and mike debonis. tricia and minneapolis on our republican line, good morning. go ahead. caller: good morning. first of all -- will hear from wayne in alabama on the republican line, go ahead. go ahead, wayne. patricia, goost: ahead. are you hearing the call? sorry about that. we have lost both the colors there. -- callers there.

lopez in maryland, independent line. a question for darlene. i am a federal employee and our understanding is that with the funding bill we have the 1.9% increase but we still need an executive order to do everything. and wondering, is that true if so have you heard anything of when this might come out? overthis week, it has been a week since the actual funding bill has been put in place. >> thank you for the question. not 100% say i am certain of that and i would have ando back and look into it figure out what that executive order is supposed to pop. >> that was the funding package that passed to end the

shutdown. guest: yes. host: jimmy from new jersey republican line. hello and thank you for taking my call. small wanted to raise a point. i think people may have forgotten because of the wall. host: jimmy you have the volume up, turn down the volume. trafficking could bye been slowed down maintaining control over the canal and forcing them to go by sea and air. what is our country doing? how stupid is that? controlwe not maintain of that canal? otherwant to raise one

point. the aclu by the way for the woman on the show, if she was wondering where that began, it began in the communist party. go back to the wall for a second. talking about the emergency to overturn the emergency order. the president tweeted several photos of the wall under construction. they are beginning to use that money then? guest: there was money last year they are already spending. last year it was specifically earmarked to repair existing fencing. there were areas where they were allowed to do a little more .rimary work it is a lot clearer in the new spending bill that there is a mandate to build new fencing

into certain sectors. going to take a while for that money to get spent for the -- at the pentagon last week we had defense officials briefed reporters and said it will probably be months at least before you see shovels in the ground, giving the need to shift money into the right accounts and get the army corps of engineers go through the contract. host: there is a report in your paper this morning writing that a bipartisan group of 58 former national security officials issued a statement saying that there is no factual basis for president trump's proclamation of the national emergency to build the wall of the u.s. mexico border. include former secretary of state madeleine albright, defense secretary .huck hagel the house inspected the boat again tomorrow.

darlene superville, tell us about who is most influential in the president's decision on this national emergency declaration. are some republican members of congress, senator lindsey graham is one of them come of the senator from south carolina who came around and began urging the president to declare this emergency because it became clear congress was not going to give him the $5.7 billion he was asking for. ,here are members of the house mark meadows is one of those who is also pushing the president to do the emergency declaration. one of the distinctions the white house made given that you have just mentioned this national security letter, they make the argument that presidents have used these emergency powers, something like 20 something times or dozens of times and the statue became law.

opponents argue that yes it has been used a number of times including after 9/11, in some cases after natural disasters. it has never been used in a situation where a president declared a national emergency to go in get money that congress denied him. that is one of the distinctions here. >> let me talk to you about another inside the white house story. this is from the briefing from the washington examiner. they set the number of cabinet departments about permanent that the epa nominee would get a hearing on capitol hill this week. what is behind the administration's thinking on slow walking some nominees or not having as many permanent , what is the story? guest: some people i have talked to said it is unprecedented to have this many.

the idea of an acting secretary is not unusual. , you have a lot someone tried to get confirmed through the senate and you have someone to do the job until the person you want there is confirmed by the senate. to have six people in his administration in the third year is a lot. when asked about of the president said he liked the acting because they give them flexibility because he is not explained what that means and the white house has not explained. host: is there a common thread? are you hearing from potential nominees or people who could be selected that the process self is so difficult and demanding? guest: that is a long-standing issue about the confirmation process. the senate does not move very fast. things get bottled up. there is opposition. the president has been complaining that democrats have been locking a number of his nominees.

calls,s get back to the john and florida on the independent line, good morning. caller: good morning. may i comment on the previous issue about the mueller report? host: go ahead. caller: you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. this is far beyond republican or democrat. this is the truth. of course that report should be given to every citizen, taxpayer in the u.s.. we paid for it, we should get it. if you hired a group of attorneys to make a report on a project after you paid them in full what they say no? of course that report is going to be missed -- should be made to everyone in the country. host: what moves have democrats made ahead of the release of the report?

guest: last week you have the chairman of several house chopperes say, warning the attorney general and the president saying we expect this report to be made public. showad adam schiff on the saying that if it is not made public he is going to subpoena and put robert mueller under oath at a hearing to discuss it. democrats are being very clear right now in the saying they are not going to tolerate any circumstance where significant parts of this report are cap secret or redacted or not open to public scrutiny. republicans arguing the opposite. there is a sense of national security items that are going to be at issue here. we need to follow the rules. the rules have existed for some time. respect to the needs of the intelligence services.

to protect the way they do business. right now public sentiment seems to be clearly on the side that as much of this report if not in its entirety should be made public. host: aside of what the president may tweet what preparations have the white house and the administration made in advance of the release of the report? guest: it is unclear what they are going to repair and in some senses it is hard to prepare for a report like that. the president said all along he did nothing wrong and there was no collusion. clearly they are hoping the report will come out and show that. evidencenot a lot of that they are doing a lot to prepare. what they have been preparing for mostly was the meeting this week with kim jong-un in vietnam. , whatbest case scenario is your thinking on when the

mueller report will be released? always been of the mind that no one knows what is going on except for robert mueller. i think it is hard to make any guesses. it is going to come to an end at some point this year. i second her analysis. i'm not a reporter who covers the mueller investigation day in and day out. ondoes seem, based circumstantial evidence of that things are coming to a halt. don't ask me to pick a date on the calendar. host: anthony on the independent line. caller: good morning. darlene superville. was advised by a lot of

people about the special counsel , kenneth starr had to run a game it. rump said the election was rigged. now that they are investigating a why not have someone that figures out what was done to have the election rigged? host: any comment? let's hear from michael in san diego, california. michael? caller: good morning. my republican party is the party of honesty and not of lying donald trump. i can't believe any person who supports this man can call them a true american. this is not what america is about. every single republican politician that spoke out became aim before he republican candidate and now supports in full heartedly is a hypocrite.

the man has not changed. he calls himself a nationalist. that is at the end in the nationalist nazi party stands for. can't people see how bad he is for our country? he bankrupted our country. host: we are looking ahead to the week in washington and beyond. mike debonis of the washington post with us. the issues the house will take up this week is the gun safety bill. i want to turn to an opinion .iece in the washington post ryan costello and carlos talking at the bill, the bipartisan background check act is not only consistent with the second amendment it is also common sense. any piece of legislation we voted on in our combined eight years in congress. what is this bill aimed at doing? democrats talking

about doing universal background checks for a long time certainly to the aftermath of the sandy hook tragedy. it would close certain loopholes where you don't have to do a federal background check. anytime a gun changes hands you would have to go to a federally licensed firearms dealer and have them run a background check. democrats are moving another bill this week, a separate piece of legislation that would extend -- but thegun dealer federal government would have to run a background check. right now there is a three-day window in which you do your background check and the red flag comes up at that time. this red flag comes up would change it to 20 days which is a much longer window. something republicans are

opposing. that bill is not inspected to have the same type of bipartisan report. support host:. is there any support for the but -- guest: is there any support for the background check bill? --their public inside background check bill on the republican side? guest: there are a number of republicans that supporters of this bill are targeting. it is far from clear that there will be a vote in the senate. host: this is the first gun legislation that the new democratic house is taking up. guest: this is the first piece of gun legislation the house has dealt with in years. there was no significant gun legislation of any kind of brought up or at least gun control legislation in the

republican-controlled house during the eight year republican majority. efforthis part of a by democrats for more gun legislation? tost: there could be more come. there are a couple of areas where they look right now. there are red flag laws which would give law enforcement and private parties the ability to have someone who has a mental health crisis or some other issue, you can have their guns temporarily taken away from them. that is something people are trying as a possibility in this congress. this comes up time to time and that is more controversial. something a lot of democrats think. mental health issue after the parkland shooting and other events, it seemed like the white house was behind additional stronger mental health checks in terms of not

specific legislation but the issue. >> that is true. it is a good question. i don't know where that stands right now. they were strongly behind that. the president was behind trying to buck the nra then he reversed course. he created the school safety thatission released a report where they came out with a bunch of recommendations for schools and school districts. those are the things he talks about now in terms of what the white house has been doing in terms of the gun control issue. host: before we go back to calls, what is the nra and other pro-gun rights groups lobbying been like before this? guest: as expected they are against it. this is a bill they have opposed for some time. especially opposed to

the second bill, the expanded window for background checks. that is an unconstitutional infringement of second amendment rights to make somebody potentially wait 20 days to purchase a firearm. the universal background check bill, they are saying that would keep a family member from -- family members who in the past have been able to give guns to each other, that would be more difficult now. jeremy in the nation's capital on our democrat line. i'm calling to thank c-span for this opportunity. arend to say that there definitely a bunch of issues going on, with donald trump being focused on the media and the attention of the public. in losds of people

angeles and seattle are living by train stations. the government has pledged to israel0 million a day to -- veterans are begging for food off the street. this is a shame for all of us as americans and it is going to stick with us into the future. stop giving donald trump media coverage. cover the critical issues. donald trump has gone around promoting his vanity project .hich is absolutely useless if we can't end poverty in then perhaps you should

shut up. charity does begin at home. host: the caller touched on venezuela. pence in aent feature piece in the new york times, they said with mr. trump in the spotlight mr. pence will beast left to test his international clout against the conflict that turned deadly over attempts to deliver humanitarian aid to venezuela. a country reeling from a collapsed economy. today vice president pence is scheduled to visit colombia to reinforce the administration's demand. the venezuelan president stepped down to clear the day -- asking the venezuelan president to step down to clear the way for juan guaido. his plane took off at 4:00 a.m. this morning. he is on his way to colombia as we speak. he was overseas last week. he was at the munich security conference.

i think what you will see is as the president becomes more focused on 2020 and his own reelection the vice president will as he has already done step up a little bit more in the foreign policy arena. host: busy handling things that normally would have been handled by our secretary of state? how are mike pompeo and vice president pence splitting duties or in approaching our allies or policy issues. >> i think they are working in tandem. it is not a situation where the secretary of state has receded into the background. secretary of state pompeo was on two of the sunday talk shows yesterday talking about venezuela, north korea and other foreign-policy issues. i would guess they are doing some coordinating in terms of who does what and who takes the lead on various issues.

state is stillf out front and center. the air was on yesterday on the sunday shows talking about foreign policy issues. the president's trip to north korea, let's take a look. >> as you head into the summit has north korea given any indication it is willing now to put meat on the bones. that it will either turn over an inventory of their arsenal or begin to turn over there nuclear arsenal? >> last year in singapore kim unequivocally stated he would denuclearize his country. >> but he hasn't. >> there were other pillars we committed to. kim unequivocally we have made progress on some and less so on others. this is a complicated process. the history is difficult. the previous administration's policy was allow the north

koreans to test and cower when they threaten us. that has been upended by president trump. we put real economic pressure on the north koreans and have built out a global coalition. we have built up the world's coalition to communicate to chairman kim that now is the moment and we hope to make real progress on that. host: the secretary of state picking up on what president trump often does, compare what they were doing contrasting it with previous administrations and their sighting of the failure of the previous administration. in this case in north korean policy. is that a prevalent theme within the administration outside of at the president is to reiterate and hammer home the difference between the two administrations? [laughter] guest: they do that a lot on lots of different issues. the do it on immigration, border wall, health care, iran,

all sorts of issues. this administration is always contrasting with what the obama administration did. always couching what they are doing as more successful than what the obama administration or previous ministrations of the. north korea is a top example. host: let's hear from steve in missouri. independent line. good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. i would like to talk about all the money we are wasting in our government. first of all the $2 trillion tax cuts going to the rich. cyber security is a much bigger threat than the wall. military. aircraft carrier is almost obsolete. a million-dollar missile can take out a 20 and billy dollar

-- $20 billion aircraft carrier from miles away. if we have world war iii it probably be nuclear. it is better to say trust in god and do the best we can. we don't need all this money. we need to help the poor and worry about that and get trump out of office as quick as possible. host: i will pick up on his comment about infrastructure. that was an area as the new congress came in that the president saw some possibility of bipartisan agreements on infrastructure spending. realizing that the 2020 budgets are being formulated now. any indication that there will be come outside of what we know about the green jobs package, from a number of democratic members that there will be a bipartisan agreement or some sort of bipartisan measure on the infrastructure spending. >> there is a lot of happy talk about we are going to do a bipartisan infrastructure bill. we have been hearing happy talk about infrastructure for years

now. it has not come together. there are some significant reasons why it hasn't. some major philosophical differences on how infrastructure packages should look. democrats want to spend more taxpayer dollars, hard money, to build things. to recap things and build infrastructure. for schools and communication networks. what republicans have floated in the past come a certain amount of hard money for that sort of thing. a lot more incentives for private industry. partiestivize private to do these things. that is a huge philosophical divide that has not been overcome. the caller mentioned the tax cuts. have put out all their proposals, some of the most

credible proposals democrats have put out. they roll back the tax cuts and raised the rates on corporate income tax. they are looking at high earners and things like that. those are not things republicans will be eager to do. basically cannibalizing their main accomplishment of the last congress to do it infrastructure deal. a lot of options and reasons were infrastructure is hard. are their deadlines we should be aware of coming up this year in congress in terms of things that will slow down the works? is there a debt ceiling deadline coming up that this congress will encounter? guest: there is a debt ceiling said line -- deadline. statutorily it is in march but the treasury will have a lot of let expect -- flexibility.

i know we just finished doing the fiscal 2019 spending. now that they 2020 thing is already starting republican members have to agree on budget caps, a huge deal. theine number, forget about appropriation bill at this point. getting that topline number. that will play out over the course of months. of little number things that will pop up here and there. sensed is theat i known unknowns that really have people wondering how this year is going to go. the mueller report is one of those things. that could take off a whole series of events that could quite feasibly involve impeachment proceedings.

if that happens it will suck up so much oxygen and protection. >> was here from susan on the independent line in fort myers. >> thank you for taking my call. i am calling with a couple of open-ended comments. i did a bit of research on the great wall of china. while we did not keep the adversaries out after the huns invaded they built a dirt wall and there are remnants of that. when the mongols came that is when it all kicked in. it took many years for the wall to be built. mongols did not have to cross the wall. they went south and came in from the south. you can check with anyone who knows chinese history to verify that. the other thing i am very

disappointed in his both sides. everything is either democrats or republicans. the thing that i think that our politicians need to remember from the presidency down to local is, politicians, people we put into office our employees, not employers. brunt people who bear the , who pay for everything are the employers. employees are our doing a rotten job. the other thing i am concerned about is that both sides equally , nothing is for free. absolutely nothing. somebody pays whether it is education or a wall or whatever.

nothing is for free. who is doing the paying? host: laura in michigan on the democrats line. caller: i would like to share a few things that have been bugging me with this presidency. i remember when president trump said if i am elected i will stay in washington and work so hard. you will see so many great things. i asked the taxpayer object very much to him spending approximately $16 million to travel between mar-a-lago and timeinster -- at vacation most presidents leave the white house. trump spent his christmas vacation at the white house. i also object to the fact that

we spend so much money protecting his children and their travels all over the world. you would think that a millionaire would be able to afford personal guards for those people. yesterday you had an interesting person speaking on mar-a-lago and how trump loves to go there because he holds court there like a king. it seems like it is an infusion of whatever you want to call it. you made a couple points about the president's travels. asked darlene superville. in terms of travel there is perspective on how often the president travels or doesn't travel to mar-a-lago in the case of the shutdown. he was at the white house for the shutdown. guest: he was at the white house but part of it was the optics. the government is shut down, you 800,000 or so federal workers

who are either not getting paid, have to work and not get paid. others not getting paid in. it did not look very good for the president to be jetting off to his palatial estate in florida. that is one thing the white house had in mind. that's why he did not travel at all during that time. presidents are presidents wherever they go. with a scaled-down staff and all the communications equipment they need to do the job to get on the phone with whatever foreign later or national security official they need to handle whatever comes up. that have been complaints he has been traveling too much. compared to obama, obama did not have a second home. he basically only travel during christmas, he went home to hawaii for two weeks. summer he would go to martha's vineyard for two

or two and a half weeks. this president, it has been his long-standing practice to spend weekends in mar-a-lago and he is continuing to do that even though he is president and it is costing taxpayers a bit of money. collects what of the obligations of the secret service to protect the president's children and for how long. >> my understanding is that it is law for the immediate family to be protected. entitled to are secret service protection for as long as he is president. i am less clear on what happens to the children after the president leaves office. he will continue to have secret isvice protection until he host: the longer living. we will go next -- until he is no longer living. caller: i just want to tell you why the california governor newsom is against controlling illegal immigration.

it is because of the upcoming census count. the more population he has in california the more power and more congressman he gets for california. he does not want the citizenship question to be on the senses. he once no wall. it is all about the numbers. it is so plain to see. tell that lady just called that trump does not take a salary. we are not building a dirt wall. we are building a modern technologically strong wall. we are not building a stupid old chinese wall. you talkedhost: about the governor of california being at the white house. latest point of friction or conflict between the administration is the

cancellation or partial cancellation by the governor of california on their high-speed rail line. the president seems to take -- have a great deal of fun pointing out that was government money and demanding some of that funding back. guest: yes. [laughter] another point of friction between the white house and california. california decided for whatever reason after spending billions of dollars, some of it federal money, to cancel the project. the president what some of that back. whether they will get back remains to be seen. it may be too fresh with the tweet about the fourth of july, trump plans a grand salute to america. he put out a hold the date tweet , we will have one of the biggest gatherings in the history of washington, d.c. on july 4. is there any further information from the white house in addition

to the already scheduled plans that happen each fourth of july here at the nation's capital. what does the president want to include in this? from: nothing additional the white house on exactly how this would all look. going to be at the lincoln memorial which is the other end of the mall from where the fireworks happen. you have a concert at the capitol than the fireworks near the lincoln memorial. maybe he is envisioning blanketing the entire national festivities on4 the fourth of july. the one thing he did mention in the speech -- in the tweet would be a speech from him. the white house has not given any more information. host: i don't want to put you on your spot. the white house has not given any more information. the president tweeting, you check that because he is a source of news. where theis that president tweet something and

you speak to people in the white house that had no idea this was coming and they are playing catch-up with where the president is going. >> it happens quite often. in the beginning when he started tweeting policycoming you wouldk to the white house and the press office for some sort of explanation or background information. the response he would get would be that the tweet speaks for itself. and just go with the tweet. speaking of surprises we hear from surprise, arizona and greg is on the republican line. caller: good morning thank you for c-span. you are doing a great job. i have a couple of comments and a question for the people from the press there. do your job. is the second comment is the lady from florida, she hit the nail on the head. she stole my thunder. the gun control issue is crazy.

i don't know why congress is quibbling over a problem. we honestly have a crime problem and a mental health problem. we have thousands of gun laws already. if you took all the guns away tomorrow the crime and the violence would be a different vehicle. they would use cars bombs or knifes or whatever. -- knives or whatever. i wish congress -- they wander off into the weeds. they spend so much time on a few billion dollars for a wall in a multi-trillion dollar economy. a governmentough shutdown and all kinds of crazy things over 5 -- give me a break. this is not real. my question for your guest is, i would love to see you guys publish more about what congress is not doing and how much time they wasted on ridiculous stuff.

it really does not matter. areof our elected officials supposed to report to us and take care of the people's business. i would like to see ap and the washington post report on what they are not doing instead of what they do. realityto get back to and get away from the crazy stuff they are doing. >> let's hear from the washington post. mike debonis covers congress from the post. -- for the post. guest: there are a lot of stories out there that i think we could do a better job covering. that thelast week national debt is over 22 trillion, a new high. they went without mention. certainly no one in congress was really reacting to that. 2011 or 2012.

this was a top of mind issue in washington. everyone was talking about the national debt. it has fallen off the radar entirely. on the left there is an issue with climate change that people talk about that. this absolutely existential issue. these members of the house democratic caucus, alexandria ocasio-cortez talk about this new deal. their kind to shed light on that on underappreciated undercovered subjects. by and large the rest of washington is not treating it as such. it feel like nowadays there are so many topic areas to cover that you can't get around to the number of stories you really want to cover?

there isthink definitely the sense of drinking from a fire hose on certain days. a high-profile hearing. the president in vietnam trying to do a north korean deal. i am forgetting something else. it is hard to find the bandwidth you the story that is more perspective and something that is not necessarily right. i think that is something we have been dealing with for some time. it has always been an issue for the media to look more than six inches in front of your face. host:it has always been an you a break with the president traveling. you are not on the trip to this time but i'm sure your workload will be just as busy. guest: i am not on the trip but when i am not on the trip, vietnam is 12 hours ahead. i will be working in d.c. going in at 8:00 at night to be at the

desk helping out my colleagues in vietnam covering the president. sometimes there are technical issues they have trouble with different things or they are writing the main story and other things are happening that we have to deal with. it could still be a busy week. host: thank you for being here early in the morning throwing up your schedule. to our viewers that those comments and speeches from the summit will be late at night. we will have coverage of many of those here on c-span. a few more calls. on the democratic line from new york city, go ahead. caller: hello, thanks. doesieve what donald trump -- only wants to damage our country. they have done a poor job of addressing poverty, homelessness and the mentally ill.

wasted and dollars money being sent to israel, nothing but murder and bloodshed . also to end poverty -- host: trying to get a few calls in before we let our guests go. fort collins colorado on the independent line. caller: good morning. what i would like to see the press cover more is, how do i articulate this? i watched 24 hour new coverage , the mueller investigation, 24/7 pounding it into our heads. what i would like to see more of

1, thank god for c-span. i read the bill, all 600 pages. if you read that that is one of the most game changing bills to level the playing field for the middle class and the average american out there. that bill was a swamp trainer. --gives the ethics committee you don't hear that. what we hear on the news is trump is all bad -- we hear all this cannon fodder and we are not hearing the real issues of what is really going on. i'm not saying we should not cover that but 24/7 -- host: thank you, charles. --wrap of the things a lot we wrap up things we did not get to.

we did not touch on the senate, they are continuing to take up nominations. getting back to an abortion bill on the house and senate side. born alive survivors protection act which basically ands clear that a doctor health providers would have a certain duty if a debut were born alive after a failed abortion. this is something that has come up put out onto the urner when the governor of virginia discussed this in a radio interview and to the republicans accused him of endorsing what the democrats have disputed. but the public has seen an opening to push for this legislation. they have been trying to get this taken up in the house, but there will be a vote on it.

host: and as the president travels, what is your coverage focusing on, what are the areas we should be watching in your reporting? in the associated press. >> the caller may be disappointed with the answer, but there is a lot of work going into the robert mueller report, different ways to report on that. and obviously, the meeting with kim jong-un this week. and there is a big, political conference in washington, the cpac, this week, a conservative gathering. host: will the president speak to the gathering this week? >> it is unclear. my guess would be the vice president will probably be the one to represent the administration, because he will be back sooner than the president, so that conference is happening this week. and lots of administration of officials -- administration officials go, in addition to the

vice president and president. host: a lot going on. thanks to both of you for being here. and there is more "washington journal" ahead, focusing on the trade talks with the president announcing he is holding back on the terrace for now -- the tariffs for now. we will be joined by robert daly to talk about the state of affairs over trade. more ahead on "washington journal." ♪ announcer: the c-span bus recently traveled to texas, asking folks, what does it mean to be american? >> it means the great opportunities the nation gives us.

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make that decision? guest: about $200 billion in imports would have gone to 25%, which would have greatly increased the cost for american consumers, it would've hit a number of industries quite hard and it would've hit chinese industries hard as well. why did he postpone? he had been a very hard lined. march 1, the tariffs will go up. i'm the tariff man. but he has said there has been progress, and if progress to extend in hopes of getting a final resolution. you can look at this in one of two ways depending on your views of the china relations. there has been progress. there has not been sufficient progress is another way to put it. they have missed the deadline. and in announcing the extension, he did not put a second deadline on it. it is now open ended. china is very good at long delays.

so the question is whether we are still in a state of emergency with maximum pressure on china, or whether this kind of friction and long talks is going to be a feature of u.s. china relations going forward. host: here are his tweets, announcing this he said "i am pleased to report the u.s. has made progress in our trade talks with china on important structural issues, including intellectual property protection, technology transfer, agriculture services, currency and other issues, as a result of these very productive talks i will delay the u.s. increase in tariffs." on technology, was specifically, the intellectual property and transfer of technology, what has been a bone of contention between the u.s. and china? guest: the u.s. has for decades, not only the united states, but other nations have been very concerned about china's direct theft of intellectual property.

this is perhaps going down as china develops their own technology and has become innovative. but another problem has been what is called forced technology transfer. what that has met is american technology companies, in order to get access to china's market, selling to the chinese, have been required to partner with chinese companies, and then to give the chinese companies their intellectual property. that, or those patents, then in able the chinese partners to eventually become their competitors. so, we are pushing hard to try to end that practice. the reason it is difficult in negotiations, is china denies it has done either of these things. having always denied it has stolen intellectual property, or it is a national policy to coerce transfer, it is hard to get them to agree to stop doing this. host: american companies have admitted that this is the price

of entry into the chinese markets. guest: this is where it gets difficult. china says that this was not forced technology transfer, this was a deal that american companies took in the light of day, because they made the judgment it was worthwhile to gain access to the market and china is now the world's largest collection of middle-class consumers, so they took the deal. they said it was not forced, it was a business negotiation. there is something to that. host: our guest is robert daly, we are talking about trade talks, specifically the news of the tariffs being delayed. we welcome your calls. we have divided lines regionally. for those in the eastern and central time zones, 202-748-8000 . mountain and the pacific, 202-748-8001. and we welcome tweets on the issue as well. in then your times today, a headline with a picture of the negotiators, "trump delays

deadline citing progress in china talks." "the lack of detail is prompting concern. both republicans and democrats worried that mr. trump may sign a deal that does little to change the practices that american companies they put them and their workers at a disadvantage. lawmakers will get a chance to grill the administration about their plans, when robert lighthizer, a top trade advisor, testified about the talks and other trade actions on wednesday." guest: right, if the president goes ahead with a deal, as seems probable, which or under which it china agrees to buy more american soybeans, more natural gas, airplanes, and then only offers very vague promises to do better at some point in the future when it suits china's needs, that kind of deal would of what we've seen for several decades. and it would fly in the face of the very strong statements made

by the trump administration that this time it would be different. the reason there is skepticism that the president will be put to get a deal, is that the chinese practices we are objecting to are really part of their motive running things, they will not change in china. host: let me ask about the number of stories we have seen about technology companies, specifically while way -- the uk's citing security concerns and issues with the company. tie that into how this plays out in the u.s.-china trade talks. guest: the concerns had originally been pursued on separate tracks in the u.s. it was the justice system, the eastern district of new york, that had put out an indictment for the number two official at the company, also the daughter of the founder, who was arrested been in canada and who is now under house arrest, waiting on procedures to determine if she

will be extradited. the president then brought the question in, including her detention, into the trade negotiations by saying if he got a good deal with china, he might lighten up on the woman and let her go. that is rather problematic for a number of reasons for the united states, in that he took a separate process, made it part of a political negotiation, made it part of his relationship with xi, which in the minds of a number of chinese and some westerners, made her a callista coal -- a political hostage, rather than somebody being prosecuted separately under the rule of law. so now the question of how we treat hauwei has been brought into negotiations, and a demonstration has said the company is a threat to the u.s., an espionage threat and a threat to our digital infrastructure. if that is true and the threat is as dire as they claim, how can we say, it is ok now because

we will be friends and throw hauwei into the deal? that is a concern. host: we are going to susan. good morning in maine. caller: good morning. i love the show. a comment, in the state we have a couple issues going on with a trade agreement. first thing, our lobster industry is being devastated. our exports china have taken a big percentage of a downturn. in the state of maine, we do not have a lot of export industries, but the lobster industry is really important to us. and the other thing is, you know, the intellectual property -- uh, zte is one that really comes to mind, that we have invited them in and they are being sold around our market. they have been warned by all of , you know -- it is amazing

to me that we allow them in, yet we are saying, no you cannot do this with hauwei. so, you know, in one hand he says yes, the other hand he says no. it i do not get where he is coming from. guest: i just returned from maine, so it is good to hear from you. the concerns you have on lobster, there is also concerns about soybeans in the midwest. the issue with these trade wars or friction is that we want to make points about open and fair trade to china, to do that we have to exert some sort of leverage. the leverage chosen in this case was tariffs, whether it was appropriate it got china's attention, but trade wars end up hurting everybody.

and they will hurt the lobster industry, and another -- and other industries going forward, but the administration, if it is not willing to pay any costs -- this is not the administration paying costs, but individuals -- if we are not willing to pay any cost, then we have no leverage with china and china will continue with their policies, which are harmful to the american economy. so the question has always been, how much of a cost are we willing to pay? the chinese government and many consumers have felt that they are tougher than we are, that they are probably willing to pay a higher cost. as individual industries way in about the cost to them of the trunk tariffs, president trump -- trump tariffs, the president has become more interested in reaching a deal. so as you cite in the case of zte, we have contradictory impulses. we want to protect our own consumers and industries, we

want to keep the prices down, but we do not want to accept the chinese practices. and we need leverage. and so you are right there has been, waffling back and forth. the chinese impulse will be, the fact that we have now delayed twice the imposition of further sanctions indicates that time and global chinese or global economic dynamics are on china's side, and therefore they can play for time and we will, or we can weaken our requests. host: talking about the drop in lobster exports, we have from reuters on the over all agricultural exports, they are expected to fall, led by china in 2019. to 1.5p of 1.9 billion billion for fiscal 2019 from a year earlier, led by a decline in shipments to china, due to the ongoing trade dispute. a department official telling reuters.

ian, good morning. caller: hi. i have a question. not takeen advised to my cell phone over to china. and i wanted to get your attention to an article that recommend treating all devices as compromised after returning from china. sim cards.them or break them in half. host: robert, you have been to china many times, what is your advice? guest: it depends on what sort of work you are involved in. if you are in a business or government that has proprietary information, then you need to be extremely careful. i would bring a clean fun, not your personal phone or ipad to china. and have them wiped clean up on your return.

it is true that you should assume all of your data is compromised, that if you bring digital devices to china. host: michael in baltimore. we are talking u.s.-china trade. caller: good morning. i just want to be sure i heard correctly, so the average person china, average person in the average middle-class person is earning more than the average middle-class person in the united states, did i hear that correctly? guest: no, there are more middle-class consumers in china than in the united states. the definition varies, but in general the average middle-class consumer in america has a higher income, but china has a larger middle-class, so a bigger market, therefore china increasingly becomes the taste maker to the world on the supply and demand sides. caller: thank you. host: doug in fairfax, south

dakota. caller: yeah. good morning. i'm up here in bean and corn country. and i know that the prices are down. they say even if they do get something going, that we have lost a lot of those production, because we are moving to argentina and we are building infrastructure somewhere down there. so, to help these guys out, $1.60 a bushel on the beans . an how will they continue doing that -- and how they continue doing that? and donald trump just wanted to stay in the u.s., that is against agriculture department, because we need the global market. what are your comments on that, i guess? guest: you are correct. this is the dilemma we find ourselves in. china is and has long been guilty of a number of practices to which the president and his

predecessors rightly object. and in order to get them to change their practices, we need to find some point of leverage or pressure. and that is always going to cost something. china has been a very deft. when they decided to impose tensions against the u.s. in tariffs,-- its own they chose america's agricultural exports, which had been a bright spot in our trade relations, because they know that in the american heartland, there is a high percentage of people who support president trump, and therefore to maximize leverage on him they attempted to hit him politically where it hurt. this was no accident. wars lookat trade like. host: the governors are in town for the nga meeting and the new south korean governor is a

congresswoman and she was asked about the effects of the tariffs, and tariffs on her stay on trade, and this is what she said. >> south dakota has been devastated by the trade wars going on. and agriculture is our number one industry. so when we are not able to export soybeans to the asia-pacific region, when we are struggling with commodity prices, that is impacting not just farmers on the ground, but every main street business, everybody that has another entity out there that relies on a successful ag industry. i have been an advocate for wrapping of these trade discussions, making sure that we are getting access to better markets. our farmers feed the world, we do it better than anybody, and we need to make sure the markets are open. >> what has the response been? >> the administration wants to do this. we have been treated unfairly in the past and they want to have better trade agreements. for instance, we have shipped soybeans to china and they have

rejected us for sanitary reasons, for regulatory reasons, and other issues. and have sent them back, which was not fair trade practices. i think the administration is trying to rectify some of that, the problem is this has gone on now for a long time. and farmers are used a risk. they are used to the prices going up and down and having that, but the sustained, low commodity prices is driving family businesses out of business. host: you can hear a sense of urgency in her voice. guest: absolutely. one of the issues is, as china says in the negotiations, that they may increase purchases of soybeans. a certain percentage is just returning to the status quo, taking off the tariffs. so some of these deals with china increasing american purchases, are probably deals we could have had during the first year of the administration. and it is not just farm products. qualcomm, intel, because china

is the largest consumer market, most american corporations and industries have equities in china. so we are back to the point that i keep making. she was to move beyond this, what does that mean if we are to move beyond it and come out ahead and actually change chinese trade practices? somebody is going to have to pay a cost for leverage and at these prices, the cost has to be paid, it looms larger to the president the closer we get to the election. he is not only getting pressure from american industries, he is also under pressure because there are signs america could face a mild recession before the election. that would decrease american leverage. host: as you put it, the president did not assign a new deadline for the tariffs when he forestalled them yesterday. guest: right, and china is good at playing for time by feeding just enough fuel to the fire to make us maintain hope and think

it could be right around the corner from an agreement, where it is a play for time that could go on for years. in pennsylvania. caller: thank you. you mentioned -- i was not going to call, but when you mentioned that china was into long negotiations, i had thought about a conversation that henry kissinger had with the former prime minister of china during the opening up of china with richard nixon and all. henry kissinger asked what he had thought of the french revolution, and he responded that it was too soon to tell. get ready for a long negotiation and bye. host: gilbert in birmingham, alabama. hi. caller: this type of guy has been really wanting to discuss

read the wall street journal daily about china and trade. americans douest, not have a manufacturing base. i can understand the business with investors, they want to make money, but if we do not keep -- i noticed over the last week or so, reading the washington street journal, it seems like america is solid in their stance against china. and china, they play this thing over time. there is a slow down in the chinese economy, so if america does not keep a hard line on dealing with china today, would you say that in the next five years that china will dominate the world economy? thank you. guest: dominate the world may be strong,

but the economy in its total volume will certainly surpass that of the united states. i already mentioned they have the largest consumer class, they are early adopters of technology, they are able to scale new technologies up for marketization faster than we are, because it is a less regulated environment. they are a formidable competitor, and they are very aware of that. so when of the reasons they play for time is china is aware, as are we, that this is a long-term competition between the united states. not only in trade, but to shape security architectures, trading regimes, the development and technologies,, norms practices worldwide. china is a rising power. menu of the trends are in china's favor, even though they u.s. is more powerful today. it is in our interest to make a deal as early as possible, while we have maximum pressure.

but it is in their interest to prolong this, because their interest will increase. it is a fundamental and new challenge for the united states, and it surpasses questions of tariffs, or even of soybeans or lobsters or individual industries that get hit. host: one of the stores we noted from last week, the headline "stream of imports strain where houses." -- where houses." nation's holiday stacked up inventories, straining capacity around the neighboring ports of los angeles and long beach, which together comprise the biggest u.s. transpacific gateway." this is the time of your that manufactures are planning ahead, well into the fall fashion and holiday season. guest: right, they were anticipating the tariffs on $200 billion in goods would go from

10% to 25% and they wanted to get as much into the country at 10% as they could, to sell over the remainder of the year. now, whether the tariffs go up, we do not know. that is the better they are making. host: ed, hi. caller: i am getting tired of this conversation with china as are equal. i remember ross perot. and truth, facts, results. street isall concerned because of all of the jobs in china and ross perot said we should adopt the trade policy of china, korea, japan and even mexico. it is a simple policy. if you do not make it here, you cannot sell it here. if we get caught up with china, this is going to help open of jobs in the u.s. and we will see an explosion in this economy. guest: right, ross perot is

famous for saying, you give me the deal i gave you. we are pushing for greater reciprocity in our relationship, but china is becoming lonesome with the global economy. the world's largest market is going to be in china and east asia more broadly, and what that means is if our companies cannot compete in the market, we will not be able to compete with chinese corporations that have access to it. it is not simply a question of reciprocal trade, we need to be part of the global flow of trade if we are to have some of the best companies. host: and looking ahead, the negotiations are wrapping up in washington, rather yesterday, delaying the implementation of tariffs. what are the next steps? where will the negotiators meet next? and there was talk of a summit with president xi. guest: we have not seen a roadmap, we do not know when the negotiations will continue.

there is no further deadline, but it has been suggested that perhaps xi would come to florida woulde two leaders conclude the negotiations. does that mean solving the problem, or does it mean a permanent timeout, that this is too much for both would conclude the negotiations. nations? we do not know the answer. host: robert daly from the wilson center, looking at china trade, thank you for being with us. there is more "washington journal" ahead. we will look ahead to today in washington, issues coming up in the nation's capital, both on capitol hill and elsewhere. the u.s. house and rules committee meeting today to take up the resolution that would overturn the emergency declaration. as we have been talking about, the president the party later today for his summit in vietnam. ice the vexed president -- v president pence is on his way to columbia to meet with the

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vietnam with kim jong-un. and vice president mike pence in columbia, meeting today with the venezuelan opposition leader gua ido, he is also expected to speak there.we may see video from that later today . we welcome your calls and comments. republicans and democrats call these numbers. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. the president weighing in on the resolution in the house, addressing his comments to senators earlier today. this was from the report and p warning "trum senators on wavering on emergency declaration." "the president issuing a warning

to those considering to block of the declaration of a national emergency at the southern border, said testing those who do have fallen into a trap. they report the house is set to vote tomorrow on a resolution of disapproval that would block the president's national emergency declaration. the measure is expected easily passed the house, before heading to the senate, which will be forced to vote on the measure." "though the republicans have a majority, the resolution requires only a simple majority to pass, meaning a small handful of votes would be needed to join with democrats to send it to the president's desk. donald trump would be sure to veto the resolution. the measure would not likely have support to override the veto." a first taste of what the debate will be like with the house rules committee meeting today at 5:00 p.m. eastern to set up the debate rules for that measure a to b will have live coverage of

that house rules committee -- and we will have live coverage of the house rules committee. in kansas from marlin city on her democrats line. caller: good morning. um, there was a previous caller in the last segment who was talking about donald trump. and declaring the national emergency. and we have all this good violence here in the united states. kids are being killed. and depending on what religion they are associated with. and you have threat against the -- i mean, building the wall, all they are going to do is build tunnels under it. it is not going to work, so i am not getting with this national emergency and $5 billion, whatever it is. and he said that mexico is going

to pay for it, what happened to that? host: ok, marlin in kansas city, mentioning the vice president going to columbia. and we want to remind you, we have video of the vice president arriving in colombia and we are getting word we will be covering the vice president's comments this morning at 10:30. that is live coverage at 10:30 a.m. eastern. he is set to meet with opposition leader of venezuela, juan guaido. we will watch as he arrives here. our republican line, go ahead. caller: hello? host: joe, you are on the air. caller: i love c-span. i've been calling for 30 years. i'm so fired up about donald

trump. we have a reelection group set up to reelect him and david perdue. and i just heard warren buffett, the stock market is up 11% so far this year. i do not see how anybody can think donald trump is not doing a super job. they do need to cut spending and waste. but i tell you, the stock market, can you imagine up 11%, this is the best start in 34 years. and i tell you, i am a stock market guy and i have never felt better about the future of america. and i think that donald trump is the best leader in world history and i will work 20 47 to reelect him and david perdue. host: george in georgia talking about spending. it is not teed up yet, but from the wall street journal, "spending fights to resume." yarmouth said that democrats would be seeking to

military increase in spending with an increase of nonmilitary spending, a point of contention in previous negotiations." now from new york, eugene. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing? i have a comment about the result of the robert mueller report. what are they going to do about, what will they do with the information as far as the 2020 election is concerned? and how is the public going to if it isthe -- positive, the mainstream media will put it on the front page, not positive they will put it on the back page. host: charleston, south carolina. dave, hello. caller: good morning. r from georgia, it is important for everybody to keep in mind that over 40% of

the american population has no affiliation with wall street whatsoever. there is no 401k, no stock options, so what you are really saying is 40% of them do not matter. the only thing that matters is the people who have stocks, and that is the way this president functions. good day. host: in new jersey, we are hearing from jenny honor independent line. what are you watching in terms of the news, what do you want to comment about? caller: i would like to comment about the things happening with president trump in the country and how i feel it is an abuse of power if he declares this emergency. what is to stop them from doing it for anything else? i believe he does not speak for the people, there are too many lies and disconnects in what he says. i do believe that people are confused about this. it amazes me that people are still going to vote for him.

and i also believe that, whether you are a republican, democrat or independent, you have to look at the country it see how we are not as better off as we should be. and the diversity in this country is horrendous, and it makes us look weak. and i also believe that the stock market may be up, but then again if the stock market is up, it is the middle class or the working man that is not buying into stocks. yes, we do have a stock market that is based on capitalism, however, the stock market is up for the rich, and not for the working man. host: do you think when folks who have their investments in arek)s or ira's, that they likewise glad to see the stock market go up and disappointed when it goes down, like the bigger investments, like when people have retirement income in

those vehicles? caller: of course, obviously. i know that my 401(k) into my husband's are based off of the stock market, but it is in the long-term, and you have to write out the -- ride out the waves of how it increases and decreases. but if you look at past presidents, the increases and decreases in the stock market, you could always see that. our country is driven by capitalism and big business, that has a lot to do with things, not only the president but other things that the stock market is based off of. when some but it takes the conversation in says that the stock market is great and it is because the president, people do not look at that historically. host: matthew is next in niagara falls, new york. caller: hi. this is matthew. i'm wondering how much egg is on

democrats' faces in losing the merger from amazon, which would have brought tons of money into the area and jobs and it is terrible they have to lose out, because they want amazon to pay if you taxes. -- a few taxes. i want to hear what do you think about them losing that. host: what do you think? do you think from a tax standpoint, from a business impact standpoint, that it is a loss for not just the city, but the state of new york? caller: it would have been a boom. and i know that amazon does not pay federal taxes all over the country. but it would've been a nice move for the markets there, all the little stores and restaurants, everybody would have gotten a piece of this. host: one story we started with was the robert mueller investigation, the reports likely not to be released this week, but we asked about making

it public. the macaques seeking that -- the democrats seeking that. "the democrats pushing to make a public. pushing the attorney general to reach a public version. six chairman, in a letter to the attorney general on friday, said they expect the findings to be released publicly." " without delay." and tar heel, north carolina on the democrats line. jerry. again, they, once have forgotten about iraq. look at what is going on in libya right now, the slave trade. look at syria. this is, i mean -- supposed to be the land of the free. and we are talking about -- and then you have the black man --

so it is like, what is going on? wake up america. host: kimberly in washington, pennsylvania on the republican line. caller: good morning, america. i would like to see the house and the senate for once stick to some roles. -- rules. no more signing bills without knowing what is in them. it is a flashback to obamacare with nancy pelosi saying, we have to sign it and find out. that is ridiculous. nobody in their right mind would do that. host: in the washington times, a headline on taxes. "americans shocked by the impact of the new tax law, many people getting lower refunds. " irs., i owe the it is proving to be frightening for some americans, especially those accustomed to getting money back. andy craft, and amy of portland

d, oregon. they would get a refund each year. then they find out that they are $10,000 this year." "i will never forget the moment i thought, we look good, then we added the next w-2." mr. kraft said, "there was no way i wanted to believe i was looking at something accurate." they write that some people have already seen the benefit in bigger paychecks, that is because the law forced employers to change what they withheld, but the system is far from perfect and many workers do not have enough in taxes set aside. now the irs wants that money. read more at washington times.com. william on the independent line. caller: thank you. listen, i was wondering if anybody had comments on how a person can move in this country and within one year, be voted

into congress. it does not make sense to me. there is something wrong. host: who are you talking about? caller: she wears a rag on her head. she was in the country like seven months, and was voted into congress this year. host: she was a citizen? caller: yeah, she became a citizen this year and was voted into congress, that is what i heard on the tv. i wondered how that could be possible that somebody could be running for congress so soon. host: are you talking about bill martin -- ilmar? she has to be a citizen to be elected to congress, legally. caller: i understand she was a citizen and became a citizen, but to be voted into congress so soon, it seems to me that you should have to maybe be in the second-generation to be voted into congress. because thousands of them could move in and get voted, into

congress and control our country let's face it. host: mark on the republican line. caller: yes, i have two comments on the wall. one is nobody is talking about it, but why don't we charge mexicans five dollars a head every time they come through to migrate and do work here in america, then five dollars at night when they go home. $25,hen we charge $20 or whatever it is to come through, and back and forth and that is how we get mexico to pay for the wall. you wantall it -- if to get nancy pelosi on our side, call it the nancy pelosi wall. host: we are focusing on issues coming up today and in the coming days here in the nation's capital. the rules committee getting underway on work for the resolution by democrats to overturn the president's emergency declaration. also, president trump leaving

for hanoi for a summit with kim jong-un. mike pence also meeting today, as we showed you, with the venezuelan opposition leader juan guaido. he is arriving in colombia and will be speaking at 10:30 a.m. and we will have live coverage of that this morning. dennis in silver spring on our democrats line. caller: i want to comment on the situation in venezuela. the state department and feds will decide who will be the person in the latin american countries. but it is like in banana republic the way we have done with guatemala. and when we witness the military jump, our response is aha -- the only thing they do is kill their own citizens, but with the death squad and everything. we are upset with venezuela because -- that is the basic

thing. there,la has a problem but we created it. we have been at war with venezuela for several years. the economy, the electric grid, their food supply, everything. now, we want to name who is going to be the next president of venezuela. host: you are saying it is the hugowho is responsible for chavez and the nicolas maduro being in power? caller: there is no question about it. if you want to come to this country, you will cry in your sleep, because of the things we do just to get a few million barrels of oil. it is unbelievable. because venezuela does not need to be begging for food. they have so much money, they have so much gold. the thing is that people, which are eight a blockade -- we

create a blockade. nobody is dying of hunger. go to haiti, guatemala, hon to see -- honduras people dying of hunger. host: the situation has escalated at the border of columbia and venezuela. "the opposition urging military force, saying that juan guaido called for the first time on the international community to consider the use of military force against nicolas maduro, escalating a standoff after a weekend shutdown over humanitarian aid ended in violence." the vice president speaking this morning at 10:30 a.m. on c-span. in oregon, dan on the republican line. caller: hi, how are you doing? host: fine. caller: hey, i think it is

ridiculous that the democrats are wanting to stop the emergency deal by the president. and i have a pretty good example of that. if people would go to w ww.illegalaliencrimereport, they would say it is an emergency. it is alarming. it is privately funded and people should check it out. host: in the wall street journal, a pretty graphic photo of the border, at least in arizona, the view from mexico with the barbed wire. "house said to border emergency vote." the first part of that process will be today with the house rules committee meeting at 5:00 p.m. eastern, live coverage on c-span3. and then the house itself expected to take the vote tomorrow, uncertain as to how soon the senate could get around

to it. presumably, the house will pass it this afternoon. hearing from joe in livingston, new jersey on the independent line. caller: good morning. i wanted everybody to know, since this is tax time, amazon not be paying out one dime, one dime in taxes, and because of the tax, we -- the taxpayer $129ll have to pay amazon million. they are not the only corporation, almost all corporations are getting money from the taxpayers. have a wonderful day. host: louise in oregon. you are on the air, democrats line. caller: i want to bring up something that i have heard mentioned on the news, but i have spoken to other people who

onlyy this, mr. trump has spent 6% of last year's money that he got from the wall. spendsn't he been told, the money from last year before you ask for new money? host: here is michael on the republican line, your thoughts on what is coming up today. --ler: how are you doinghi hi, how are you doing? i think the biggest disgrace is the lack of media coverage on all the taxes by the democrats. i think they need to cover that more. a story about the head of the negotiations with kim jong-un, the north korean leader, from robert zoellick, the former u.s. world bank president and trade representative, former deputy secretary of state -- how to negotiate with kim jong-un.

he says the first that must be to adjust the danger of -- address the danger of warfare. second, they should have an agenda to build confidence in their relationship. third, the parties must address regional security to achieve lasting peace. both koreas need to work with the other asian powers and the u.s. four, washington and seoul could point north korea into reform. hanoi has opened up to offer their people much better lives. and in final point, saying that all parties must address the dangers of nuclear weapons with missiles. as the trump administers and has recognize, this should adjust these steps and trust builds. north korea should stop their testing of missiles. it should stop supporting

criminal networks, cyber attacks and criminals. and lastly, the trump administration has floated ideas, such as a peace treaty, but these steps make little sense unless they are connected a policy purposes. mr. trump should not toss around diplomatic baubles, he needs to connect actions to objectives. read more in the wall street journal. next we go to houston, deb in texas. caller: good morning. two quick comments. one, i am opposed to any of our emergency funds being diverted for the wall. and secondly, on a personal note, i know that you have it tough up there, but some callers ago a man called and talked about a person of congress with a rag on their head. i think you know who the congresswoman was. to let him keep talking like he

was a reasonable person, yu mighou might have missed it but -- host: that comment, i did not know, or i did not hear him say that specifically. if i did, i should have said something, you are right about that. sometimes, the connection -- i regret it is not as good as it should be. it was inappropriate, you are right. caller: do not let me -- i am not accusing you, i am saying that i think the callers who called after, they did not call it out, but i picked up the phone because i think that those who hear it should call up. that is why i am calling it out. thank you to c-span. all should follow up, do not leave it to the host, you are only one person. host: i appreciate that input. i really do.

we will hear a couple more calls. josie in los angeles on the republican line. jose, go ahead. caller: yeah, listen. we do have a state of emergency, commil aliens have tted major crimes on american soil. what we have to do is simply have a five dollar remittance tax for the wall, or if it is a large amount of money, like over $1000, it should be 10% of every $1000. if it is a minimum of $5, and a maximum of 10% of remittance, to service the wall. that would create billions of dollars to create a barrier at the border of mexico. thatou need to understand

a legal aliens coming from potential -- illegal aliens are coming to create a backlog. and there is a revision in the law, there is a law that states if they are in immigration court ps six six years -- years, they get in automatic green card. unless we have a barrier to prevent that from happening and unless we enforce the fact that illegal aliens have to first go to the first nation they set ask for amnesty or ask for refugee status, that would be mexico, mexico should carry the burden of the refugees. not america. host: that is hosea in

california. that will be the last word for this morning's program. thank you for being here on washington journal. we are live on tuesday morning 7:00 a.m. eastern. we look forward to seeing you then. thanks for being here. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: here is a look at our live programming coming up today on the c-span networks. in a half hour, we will take you -- bogota,co colombia where the vice president is visiting. he is expected to take -- make remarks about the situation in venezuela. we will have live coverage when that gets underway. later today at noon eastern, a

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