andand steven levitsky talks abt his new book, "how democracies die." [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ street journal reports one of the concerns former president -- vice president joe biden has in running for president is the ability to raise money after deciding he should -- if he should run. his team is scouting out a location for his campaign headquarters, philadelphia being a leading contender. president trump took an opportunity to speak against the idea of socialism saying it was "the last thing we want in the united states." return to you for our first hour, asking your opinion on

when it comes to an economic system, which do you prefer and why? system,list economic socialist economic system, or a hybrid between the two. if you say capitalist, 202-748-8000. if you say socialist, 202-748-8001. if you think a hybrid works best, 202-748-8002. you can post thoughts on our twitter feed @cspanwj and you can also post on our facebook page at facebook.com/cspan. when it comes to these various types of systems and definitions of those systems, here is what the dictionary definition of how they work and it comes to socialism. economic andarious political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means, production, and distribution of goods." the definition of capitalism,

"an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership by goods, determined by private decision determined mainly by competition in a free market." it was the president yesterday standing alongside the brazilian president talking about a variety of things and one of the things that came up was this idea of socialism and what he thought would be a bad thing for the united states. you can see the whole thing on our website at c-span.org. here is the president from yesterday. [video clip] >> the twilight hour of socialism has arrived in our hemisphere and hopefully, by the way, it has also arrived that twilight hour in our great country which is doing better than it has ever done economically. the last thing we want in the united states is socialism. host: some recent polling on

this idea provided by taxi us -- axius taking a look at younger participants, generation z saying they had a more positive view of the world -- word socialism. when it comes to the government providing universal health care, 73.2%ials and gen z, saying that is a good thing. when asked if they prefer living in a socialist country amongst millenials and generation z, 49.6% agreeing. fox news conducting a separate poll. this was done in february. when asked the opinion of socialism versus capitalism, those would say socialism is favorable.

59% saying unfavorable. 16% cannot write the two, saying socialism -- cannot rate that first is 15%. which do you prefer and why? capitalist, socialist, or a hybrid of the two. saying i -- a hybrid works best, gus from florida. good morning. caller: we have had a hybrid system since the days of franklin delano roosevelt. i don't know what the fuss is about. of the pendulum swings right to left and back into the center and always has. what is happening now is people are exaggerating. president trump is way over to the right and some of the people who are running for president on the democratic side are in my

opinion, way too far to the left . the pendulum is going to swing back. if you look at the faa and the disaster with boeing, if you look at all the floods we are states,- in all these they pretty much all voted for trump and they are getting blown away with floods and all sorts of stuff because they decided they were going to do away with government regulation. host: how does a hybrid system in that instance work best? caller: a hybrid system works whenwhen there is balance, neither side is in charge. host: bob is in wisconsin and says capitalism is the way to go. caller: good morning. i am of veteran and i served my country. us free in socialism is

a farce. -- talk toege would people who live in poland. capitalism gives me the right turn what i make and get what i earn. i don't want to take from my --ghbor because capitalism keeps people, i can do this cheaper. i can do this better. competition. and bernie stinks sanders -- socialism stinks and bernie sanders should be kicked out of government. host: whit says a hybrid works best. good morning. caller: personally, in my life, i had the privilege of interacting with socialist over

the course of my life. i studied the history of communism in russia under teachers who managed the transition from soviet union to the russian federation. i wanted to say the beauty in my opinion at the federal level and state legislative level is in most states and the federal system, it seems like there is a parties.nce against think -- there was a book written a couple years ago and in the soviet union, they would constantly whitewash everything. theink it is sad to ignore conclusions of all those people who before the end of world war ii when the declaration of war

against socialism in america, who contributed to things like labor laws and a 40 hour workweek. host: those are the examples you would a site that a hybrid already exists in the united states? caller: if i understand the history of the country well, i think socialism wants a vibrant component of the american public . it was only after the end of world war ii that it only became recharacterized as this unacceptable and demonic entity. host: john writes an opinion peach -- piece at the hill talking about socialism and what it is and what it isn't according to him. the 40 hour workweek is not socialism nor it is a product of socialist, it was ford motor company that went into the 40

hour workweek and saw profits soar. nor are child labor laws or environmental protections. these were all necessary in a world rapidly changing from agrarian to industrial. capitalism is not a flawless ideology, it is not an ideology at all and that is its greatest strength. socialists seek to remove profit as motivation for production. socialists seek to have the government control energy production, the green new deal is a socialist dream taxing american citizens at 70% is a socialist concept. john giving his thoughts on this capitalistic -- capitalism as an economic system versus socialism. which do you prefer? if you say capitalist system works best, 202-748-8000.

if you say a socialist economic system works best, 202-748-8001. if it is a hybrid of the two, 202-748-8002. let's hear from john. john is calling us from maryland, in baltimore. capitalism is his preferred system. hello, john. caller: good morning. it is silly to think all these millenials are hoping socialism works in america and in the past, it is obvious it does not work. why would you mix oil and vinegar while the oil works by itself? it is silly to think competition is frowned upon these days and working hard to make money and money is viewed as evil and it is silly. as a millennial myself, i see that this change in participation metals and pat on

the back and a lot of it is from our higher education systems and what we need to happen is have a more capitalistic society where you see the benefits of competition and utility than someone else that may not -- not everyone is created equal and as talented as the next. host: can you think of a concrete example of how it works in the u.s.? caller: a perfect example. what is frowned upon is the banking system and what the banking system does, it allows liquidity in the world. when you have a bank that is able to bid on treasuries or all sorts of different products, it allows businesses to grow and without that type of competition from others, the economic system will fail.

i, personally, cannot even fathom the fact people are even associating socialism to a successful, american economy. that is not what we were founded upon. it is ludicrous. hear from don in new mexico who advocates a hybrid system. caller: in your discussion, one of the things you have left out is fascism. in fascism, what you have is you have an authoritarian leader who overrules everyone. you have a policy of us versus asm, you have lies used propaganda. you have a violation of the rule of law. host: we are talking about economic systems. you called hybrid, why do you think that? caller: i called hybrid because you have forgotten fascism. host: paul is next, fort lauderdale, florida.

advocates for capitalism. hi. caller: good morning. this is what always happens with socialism, the true believers like bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, they win the election and socialism goes in. over time, people begin to complain and it looks like socialism isn't going to work and that is when you have chavezen like stalin and take over. as socialism continues, you see there is corruption and you cannot get rid of the corruption because the government is the vote and controls everything and you cannot get rid of it. i have a theory about why socialism is becoming popular at least as a subject of conversation in the united states and that is, it is not that there is a few people getting rich, it is the majority of people are doing very well.

let's compare that to trophies being handed out. if only one person wins the trophy, the other people say i am just like everybody else except for one person. if three quarters of the class wins a trophy you say, i am being left out, there is something wrong. -- people feel the impact of not being successful more because there are more people successful. are more say there people successful and that is attribute it to capitalism? caller: absolutely, it is. without a doubt. you don't want the government to be a criminal. if you don't mind someone being productive making the same amount of money as people who

are productive, you will love socialism. host: here are comments from our edwards page, helena said it socialism means everyone is going to reap in the exact same amount as they sow, i will take socialism. in a hybridwe live now. socialism is always scary to criminals. brian clements says everyone can post on here due to capitalism and everyone has cars and food thanks to it. when it comes to these economic systems, you can post your thoughts on facebook. make your thoughts known at @cspanwj. call us on the line. if you say a capitalist economic system works best, 202-748-8000. if you say it is a socialist economic system, 202-748-8001. some people saying this morning

and advocating for a hybrid system, 202-748-8002. kathy who says when it comes to this system, socialist is what she highlights. from pittsburgh. hi, kathy. democratichink a socialism, which is closer to a hybrid. i have an mba from a long time ago when they were more valuable. people really fail to understand what socialism is. the major element is multinational corporations. they have no personal investiture of what happens in

that -- because if economic conditions go south, they go north. they can go wherever they want, pick up their marbles, and leave. that, if you look at the measures of happiness, quality of life, quality of health care, internationally, democratic socialist countries ranked way higher than the u.s.. , think we are about 17th, 18th except for health care, where we are 37th and first in expenditures. people talk about i don't want 70% in taxes and yet most of those countries -- there are no charges for higher education. ist: with that in mind, apologize, democratic socialism ?s what you are saying

caller: bernie sanders, is a bit .oo extreme in what he proposes host: that is kathy giving her thoughts. bernie sanders did in interview with npr on a variety of things. they are interviewing all these presidential candidates. one of the topics of conversation on the socialist label -- this is bernie sanders "i think what we have to do is do a better job maybe explaining what we mean by democratic socialism. my right wing colleagues want to point -- paint that as authoritarianism. what i mean is i want a vibrant democracy. i find it interesting people to sizing me are involved in voter suppression trying to keep --

criticizing me are involved in voter suppression. npr.an find more at bernie sanders was asked about his ideas of democratic socialism comparing them to socialism versus capitalism. [video clip] >> can you make a simple persuasive case as to why socialism is preferable to capitalism? >> democratic socialism, right? >> yeah. >> okay. let me tell you what i mean by that. right now, we have a nation which prides itself on a lot of political rights. in other words, under the constitution, thank god, you have freedom of speech. the media can do its thing even though trump calls you an enemy of the people. how does that feel, to be an enemy? that is another story. [laughter] i don't think you are.

we have political or freedom of religion and all of that is important. you know what we don't have? we don't have guarantees regarding economic rights. way back in 1944 in a little-known -- a little publicized state of the union speech, franklin delano roosevelt said something. i am paraphrasing, but he said, when we talk about human freedom and rights, we have got to understand everybody needs a decent paying job, people need health care people need education. all over the world, these ideas are taking place. you go to countries in scandinavia and health care is a right, higher education is free. they have strong preschool programs and they make sure elderly folks can retire in dignity. these are not radical ideas. what democratic socialism means to me is having in a civilized society, the understanding that

we can make sure all of our people live in security and dignity. health care is a human right. all people should have health care. you cannot get ahead in this country, in this world unless you have a decent education. as a right, we have got to end the kinds of discrimination, racism, sexism, homophobia that exists. when i talk about democratic socialism, i am talking about human rights and economic rights. host: comparing those economic systems, capitalist, socialist, hybrid, which do you think works best or which is the best for you? if you say capitalist, 202-748-8000. socialist, 202-748-8001. and a hybrid of the two, 202-748-8002. post your thoughts on @cspanwj. our twitter feed and our facebook page.

barney says the hybrid is the way to go. good morning. hybrid yes, i think the is the west -- best way to go because -- hello? host: you are on, go ahead. caller: the hybrid is a better system and will be a better system. --apitalist society aople say we are going to put stadium in such area. [inaudible] host: i apologize, that signal of yours is breaking up. may be moved to a front section of your home and bit -- get a better connection. caller: i think this is wonderful, c-span is the best and brings up all issues we need to discuss. i find it very interesting my life in the area of washington,

d.c. and listening to the viewers, how many people have actually experienced socialism and communism as part of their life. as the gentleman earlier pointed out, i think it is until you have lived it, experienced it for yourselves, to see what the difference is about. i spent half of my childhood --wing up when you see the differences is when you experience it. i love that bernie talks about guarantees of economic rights. if you unpack that, you recognize it is communism in full force. everybody gets the same right as somebody else. everybody gets the same job as somebody else. i did not mean rights, i meant to say the same. in an emergency room, you have to be treated, nobody gets turned away if they

are in a dire situation. when you talk about upward mobility in the united states versus europe, it is still the old, old system in europe. you are born to an academic family, you can possibly become an epidemic -- an academic. just the big corporations and small shops in the towns, there is very little upward nobility, which is why you see the united states doing so much better in 20 years than the economic union. that is what the economic union was supposed to do. i have so many examples and i could go on for hours about family members that tried to start businesses in europe and they had to close shops. they had to give employees immediate rights and when the person did not show up for work, they had to keep paying them even though that person decided

for some reason not to come to work anymore. host: that is susan in virginia giving her thoughts on capitalism. socialism or socialist economic system from iowa, this is james, hello. caller: how are you doing? i looked up the definition of socialism and broke it in part. social means people and -ism means standby. the definition of socialism is standby the people. how can anybody be against the people unless they are the devil? host: why do you think that will work best for the u.s.? caller: because it benefits the people, the american people, not the rich. the selfish, greedy rich, the people who make dollars like yourself. host: that is james in iowa. the seattle times has an article , socialism is gaining in popularity today and capitalism is to blame. just a few lines saying a

specter is haunting america, the specter of socialism. more positive views of capital ash socialism than capitalism. the democratic party is moving left. for many, this is a reaction of -- to president trump. what do we mean when we say socialism? even few democratic-socialist would advocate wholesale government ownership of the heights of the economy. socialism is a historic phase on the murderous way to communism. they admire the northern european model where people pay high taxes and get major government service. many of the proposals are not from denmark. under president dwight eisenhower, the richest paid 91% . the republican former five-star

general and liberator of western europe was branded a communist by the right wing john birch society. ,ohn talton is the columnist the seattle times is where you can find a piece. nevada, whoo pat in advocates for capitalism. good morning. caller: good morning. nice to see you. i feel we have a form of socialist capitalism at a time. my grandson and granddaughter both went to college thanks to the government program where they could borrow the money to go. they are paying it back, but there are so many that have not paid it back. this situation cannot go on forever. that is one of the downfalls of the socialist way.

another thing that -- i forgot what i was going to say. host: are you saying a hybrid system or you are concerned about one extreme over the other? caller: i believe we have a hybrid system already for certain things, health care, education, that sort of thing. it is a wonderful saying, the ability to borrow the money to .o to school is wonderful there are so many not paying it back, they are going to destroy it. the other thing i cannot understand is that we have sanctuary cities. if the state wants to allow the state to have them. to ron ins go california, a socialist economic

system is what he is calling about. hello. ron from california, hello? caller: you've got john, here. host: sorry about that, you are on. go ahead. caller: i want to say due to the tax breaks these corporations get, they need to give back 10%. democracy support our and get back 10% due to enormous theseeaks so we can fill jobs they claim they need overseas visas and whatnot. if we fund education, we can feel these jobs very heavy. your -- you feel yourself a democratic-socialist? caller: yes. host: why is that? caller: i have been dealing this

-- with this for a while since reaganomics and trickle-down economics. as we both know, that has not worked out for anybody. there is no doubt about that. host: when you hear bernie --ders as far as the ideas is not something you align yourself with and support? caller: i support education funded by corporations. host: here isn't some of our viewpoints from our twitter feed. to the ron box report saying the more socialism and less capitalism you get, the less freedom and liberty you have. fred says socialism sounds good until you run out of other people's money.

democrats promising something as usual. we all know nothing is free in this world. nicholas off facebook says economic systems are highly susceptible to corruption and abuse. two venues on social media you can post on. as we get your thoughts and viewpoints on these ideas of economic systems. if you prefer a socialist or capitalist system or hybrid of the two, 202-748-8000. if you say a socialist point of view, 202-748-8001. a hybrid of the two, 202-748-8002. from regina, regina is in new york. says a hybrid of the two works best. hello. caller: hello. how are you doing this morning? host: i am fine, go ahead.

caller: i believe capitalism is the root of all evil. we have capitalism in new york state with donald trump. he uses his money to delay court cases and not pay people. we've got rich people in court systems that never pay what you are supposed to. as far as the people calling, it is painfully obvious education in this country is preferable to the rich and not given to the poor. when you know what is going on, you become satisfied -- hybridow do you think a system works best in the u.s.? given example. caller: a well educated population will not be led into bad policy. america, a country is only as

good as the weakest people and it works very well when you are elderly, to be able to at least get in the hospital and if you have cancer, get the drugs you need because if you are really poor, you will not be able to afford cutting edge drugs that keep you alive. i know several people that have gotten cancer and could not afford the treatment and died. host: that is regina in new york even her thoughts. we will continue on your calls and slots and show you stories that happened overnight. the previous caller mentioned lawsuits and the washington times highlights a federal appeals court hearing a case concerning president trump and his hotels. a federal appeals court on tuesday growth lawyers in maryland about claims president trump is violating the

constitution by accepting profits through foreign and domestic officials. a three-judge panel of the u.s. court of appeals discussed skepticism about claims that alleged mr. trump is violating the emoluments clause of the constitution. niemeyer said mr. trump pulled back from active management of the international hotel -- it would likely remain in the trump family. a solicitor general for the district of columbia said the investment would be one way to solve the problem. more of that in the richmond times -- the washington times if you want to read it for yourself. from new york, mary, good morning.

i just want to make a comment about the difference between socialism and capitalism and my example is i worked in a factory and was cross trained for a lot of jobs. it took a college course in electronics. -- one woman was well-liked and got a pay raise. -- ok and training ins is what happens socialism. everyone gets the same pay whether you are more qualified or not and i don't think it is fair. somebody that has a college education is going to get paid $15 an hour, the same as a person that has not only a high school education, that is not

fair. host: you are saying merit goes a socialistow under economic point of view? caller: everyone will be paid the same because the government will control what is being paid. host: woody, you are next up. caller: good morning. i would like to talk about capitalism and socialism. if capitalism works so great, and we are the wealthiest country in the world, how come we are borrowing money from a communist country? corporationsur going to a communist country? walmart, italk into is hard for me to find anything made in the usa? capitalism is working really great for some people, the 1% moving to china and taking the money and hiding it. host: how would a socialist

economic system work in the u.s. then? our medicines, we don't medicine, we get the most profitable. people are more worried about profits and what is right for the country, good for the people . next.colorado is from denver, tony. good morning. caller: good morning. i listen to this debate and i am kind of taken aback that people arecalling and saying they absolutely socialist. if that is true, i think the question you should be putting to them is are all those people who say i am absolutely against socialism and the practices inherent with that system, i am willing to give up social security and medicare at the age of 75. that is when they say your

contributions will no longer fund medical care or retirement. are they willing to give up social security and medicare at the age of 75? at that point, they are being paid on moneys being contributed that they did not contribute. everybody who partakes in this system believes socialism at some degree. host: is medicare a pure example of socialism, in your mind? caller: that is a good question, actually. country,ystem -- no really, is one or the other, truly. it's already a hybrid. the chinese have moved to a capitalist system. we evolved to a socialist system. all countries wind up in the middle somewhere. system in is the best my opinion in generating income and growth.

it needs guard rails and it is the guardrails that have fallen over the past decade or two is why we have a class of the 1% and the wealth is concentrated at the very, very highest level. this happened in the early 1900s and the guardrails, and there are practices that come in place to prevent extremes of even capitalism. 1930's,hy in the socialism or social security was created for exactly this reason. all that is happening now is we have moved down that path and the pendulum has swung too far to the right and you have candidate putting out proposals trying to move it back to the center. is tony from colorado giving his thoughts. craig is next in oklahoma.

caller: i appreciate your program, you do a great job. if you look at capitalism, it is the greatest engine for prosperity on the earth. any country under capitalism prospers because it promotes innovation. you are told you can make more if you do more, innovate more. if you destroy that, you would destroy america. of dr.re the writers zhivago just reported what happened in russia when socialist took over. you don't have to watch the whole thing, just watch up to station. they took over rich people's homes, rich people were forced to give up their homes to -- they were not able to employ people. they were graded down to the

point that up to the train station team, you have people crawling around trying to find food. the people rich employee people. they are not people and they produce wealth for the people under them. if you really look at the movie, they accidentally pointed out what could happen. you need to check it out and see what socialism does. in the 19can do so minutes on this topic, 202-748-8000 if you say a capitalist way of economics is the way to go. a socialist way of economics, give us a call at 202-748-8001. if you think it is a hybrid of the two, 202-748-8002. more stories to show you from the papers as we go along on the topic. these pertaining to 2020.

-- possible plans for a 2020 run. mr. biden expressed concern he would not be able to raise millions of dollars in online donations immediately the way some other democratic candidates have, including beto o'rourke of texas and bernie sanders of vermont. he wants to announce a large fundraising number after his candidacy is official to better compete in what is often dubbed a money primary that kicks off the presidential season. if you go to the washington post, money and polling are concerns of those on the democratic side, -- particularly when it comes to entry in the debate. 65,000 donors is the magic number for people running for president and saying it has little to do with fan -- campaign fundraising and it has to do with -- either earn at least 1% support in a series of public polls of democratic voters or attract

65,000 individual donors, hitting 65,000 has become the magic ticket for many candidates struggling to rank in public polls given a field that has 15 contenders and several more waiting in the wings. you can read more of that story and the washington post. it is c-span.org. our guest, larry kudlow was asked about socialism and the u.s. economic system. here are his thoughts. [video clip] entrepreneurial private sector investment always wins. government control and socialism and health care for all and paying everybody whether they work or not and a green new deal which probably cost $100 trillion.

i am going to convict socialism. this is a teaching moment and a young people, the so-called millenials going to work i believe will come around to our point of view. you remember what winston churchill said. he said it to me personally many years ago. when you are in your 20's, if you are not a socialist, you have no heart. when you are in your 30's and not a capitalist, you have no brain. we are entering into the 30's capitalist brain part. i don't mean this to be condescending. i think this is a teaching moment. our system with its freedom and prosperity is the greatest in our history and i want to change it. i don't want to punish people, i want to reward them. host: you can see more of that

program at our website on c-span.org. larry kudlow on our newsmakers program. sean, good morning. caller: i appreciate c-span and what you guys do. socialism as a pure economic system is a farce. the way our president talks about socialism, he is talking about regulation. host: you are advocating for a hybrid system? tell us why. -- pardon me. it is the only one that actually exists. the other two systems are just in theory and they do not exist in purity. give an example of how it

exists? caller: a hybrid system? host: yeah. caller: simply regulation and rule of law. in a pure capitalist system, that does not exist. fear mr. trump is talking about when he is talking about a simple regulations being socialist. it is a dangerous slope we are on. florida, good morning, you are next up. go ahead. caller: hi. i am sorry, am i on? host: yes, you are. caller: hi, good morning. let me put this out. i am a 70-year-old -- host: you are going to have to stop listening to the tv and go

ahead with your comment. caller: thank you, i turned it off. i am a 70-year-old male, highly educated. i chase my socialism back to an incident in fourth grade. i did not know of socialism or capitalism, but the teacher stood up and started preaching to us that america had the highest standard of living in the world and i said part of the reason was we were shipping our taking jobs to other charging a dollar a day. i was branded a communist because i still had these views. socialism is a social program, not a political one in the same fashion communism is an economic system. it's only the government who have run these in the recent past, run them on a fascist

system. statessm in the united includes things like the place -- police department, fire department, roads, et cetera. socialistthey purely systems, those example? caller: obviously there are some regulations involved. when everybody contributes to a certain system, they are equally .nvolving things edison didn't do things because he was looking for money, he had ideas. thought that there was no advancement in the human condition until american capitalism came along. when people do things together as a group, that is socialism. we will leave it there.

that is ishmael from florida. elijah cummings from maryland rights and op-ed, this committee -- of the many committees the obstructionist in chief is the title per he writes i have sent 12 letters to the white house on a half-dozen topics, some routine and some relating to our security interest. point.underscore that the white house has not turned over a single piece of paper to our committee or made a single official available for testimony. one of the most important investigations we are conducting is a review of national security clearances. congress is not entitled to information about individual employees, including michael cohen and goes on to list others . the white house also refused to

produce documents and witnesses in response to other investigations including the use of personal email and federal law. reports that the administration allegedly rushed to transfer sensitive nuclear technology to saudi arabia. he lays out more arguments and his piece in the washington post. that is elijah cummings. jerry in florida, you are next. caller: i have been listening to the discussion. i have been listening to the discussion and i believe the hybrid system is what we have. what we have is a party fighting it consistently. everybody agrees capitalism is the best way to go. capitalism unchecked, to eat your own. you need a government, you need regulations, that is what -- you

need the large amount of people we have in this country to be able to have a few oligarchs at the top making money. that is how the system works. host: that is the hybrid system you are highlighting. caller: they would just get over it. the insurance companies have got the market. you have got to socialize medicine. drugs, people taking care of each other, that is a right. those are the socialist programs we have in place already that need to be fortified. those things along with little tweaks i think makes the system work a lot better for everybody. host: that is jerry in florida. helen says the fruits of capitalism feeds socialism. socialism stops capitalism from

cannibalizing itself. john says anyone not advocating for a hybrid system is an idiot. you cannot have either fully capitalist or fully socialist systems without problems. a hybrid system has been proven to be the only winner. you can give us a call on the phone lines and post on our twitter and facebook feed. those are the ways you can let us know of these things. pittsburgh, someone who advocates for a hybrid system, this is george. from a i am talking commonwealth state and i am a republican. becauseit is a hybrid making --ofit and creating a balance between the two.

i think the hybrid -- if we go god to the beginning, when breathed life into the earth, he called a creature man. if we don't maintain that balance, it will fall out. ofe is in a natural property decay. host: vivian is next in florida. good morning. caller: good morning. i am a long time viewer and i wanted to say thank you to c-span for all you do. we tried the socialist economic system -- capitalist economic system and i think the socialist economic system is the way to go now. host: why is that? caller: because the capitalist

economic system, having lived it, one could say it is like doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. we have not yielded the results. the only way at this point is to try the socialist economic system. host: how would that look like if we went by a purely socialist economic system? what would that look like for you? caller: i am speaking of the democratic-socialist economic system, to have a society of people who need to be educated, you cannot have people lying on the street needing help and not being able to get it. not advocatingam for everyone to be paid the same. you have to have merit. when people work for degrees out theyucate themselves, then

should be judged by merit and they should be into a job that is commiserate with the education and/or experience they host: achieved. host:would you see that purely as a taxation system to pay for these things? caller: i think the people who have earned the most in our society should pay the most. that makes sense to me. you are going to always have those that are going to make more money. those will be the ones that have onesy more, the educated should have to pay more and this is how the system will work. it will feed off of individuals who have been allowed to move up in the system. host: let's hear from jerry in portland, oregon. eileen toward capitalism

because that is where i believe we get our whole base. the problem i see is congress. congress needs to regulate in a severe manner. us they know what is best for us and i spent four years in the military. i don't like what i see on either side. i am a republican. pharmaceuticals, you can charge whatever you want -- that was .everal years back they are to blame for a lot of this stuff. host: in florida, hello. caller: thank you for taking my call. i believe a country chooses capitalism. we live under a constitution which are the guidelines for capitalism to be honest and not

corrupt. socialism is creeping in. you have people and government not qualified for anything and they are making decisions. socialism will lead to corruption and eventually chaos, murder, and massacre, which is communism. host: the new york times highlights a story possibly looking at a policy shift when it comes to iran. under plans recommended by mr. pompeo and some white house officials, the state department would designate the islamic revolutionary guard corps as a foreign terrorist organization. it couldofficials said put united states troops and intelligence officers at risk by similar actions from foreign governments. as plan would designate them

foreign terrorist organizations. officials who support them would be subject to economic sanctions and travel restrictions. john in stamford, connecticut. good morning. caller: good morning. i think the term socialism and what we are discussing here is a misnomer. i would call the hybrid system a welfare state, where certain basic needs -- host: john, go ahead. needs likeic livelihood. your own livelihood, not living off the state, education, medical care, so on should be andanteed every citizen

there is no doubt the greatest ,conomic driver in this country in the world, is capitalism. from calabash north carolina. good morning. caller: good morning. i just heard your comments from larry kudlow. i looked it up real quick and i could not remember specifically, but lo and behold, larry kudlow supported the government bailout from the mortgage meltdown. that is socialism for the rich. capitalism is brutal. i support it. you pay big consequences when you make mistakes. it takes money away from the people who make mistakes and gives people who did not make

the mistakes the opportunity to rebuild in the wake of those who have been removed from the marketplace. larry kudlow supported rich people, the people who made those mistakes to stay in place and continue. with more regulation, but all of the people kept their money. host: that's david in north carolina talking about the newsmakers program with larry kudlow. that at c-span.org. two book authors joining us for the remaining portion of the program. we start with aei preston arthur brooks as he discusses his new book love your enemies: how decent people can save america from the culture of contempt. and then harvard professor steven levitsky on his book, how

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