live coverage thursday on c-span, join chief of staff chair general joseph dunford talking about military operations and priorities for the future. later at five: 15 come inspectors general from health and human services, the commerce department, the pentagon, and the justice department discuss their oversight role within government. on c-span 2, in the morning, federal commune issue hitchens chair -- federal committee occasions chair speaks to the federal communications was -- hosting a discussion on the national security implications of 5g technology. today's "washington journal," ohio state university professor edward hill talked about the economic impact of last year's trade disputes on ohio and other parts of the country. also, duke university professor sandy darity talks about the

2020 presidential campaign. -- campaign. anita mcbride, who served as chief of staff to former first lady laura bush. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ host: this is the "washington 21.nal" for march your comments about president trump's comments about arizona senator john mccain. -- spentdent sent several minutes yesterday making comments about senator mccain emma making it the third time in a week he has spoken about senator mccain. we will get your collection of thoughts on what you think about the president's statements and here is how you can let us know. 202-748-8000 for democrats. republicans.for and independents, 202-748-8002. our social to go to

media sites, you can do so. veterans can have your own line to make comments, 202-748-8003. @cspanwj is our twitter feed. facebook.com/cspan is our facebook page. up aumbus dispatch picking story, the president making a speech at a manufacturing plant. that is where he made the latest remarks about john mccain out of i how -- out of ohio saying the president came to ohio to machines.ose who make lashing out at the american war hero for the for a time -- third time this week. the president criticized the late john mccain. the attack came without warning. he had just finished praising veterans workers. you can see these remarks on c-span. [video clip] >> i endorsed him at his request

and i gave him the kind of funeral he wanted, which, as president, i had to approve. i don't care about this. i did not get thank you-ed, that is okay. we are all set and i don't think i have to answer that question, but the press keeps, what do you think of mccain? not my kind of guy, but some people like him, and i think that is great. host: he made more remarks and we will show you those. to get your response, here is how you can let us know. 202-748-8000 for democrats. republicans, 202-748-8001. and independents, 202-748-8002. you can also, if you are a veteran and want to give thoughts, it is 202-748-8003. several people commenting on our social media sites from the speech from yesterday. from facebook, surely saying that ruth was spoken by our

president. mccain's family was rude to our president. loathsomety, sick, person who happens to be president of the united states. daniel off facebook as well saying i am here to see how all democrats suddenly love john mccain. that is a collection of thoughts from our facebook feed. we will start with ryan in new orleans, democrats line. good morning, go ahead. caller: yes, sir, i think it is horrible. it is just horrible for a man that doesn't have one inch -- our president is disgraceful to talk about a great man like john mccain. i blame the people -- the southern people under the

mason-dixon line, it is gross. this man is embarrassing himself by discrediting a great man. thank you very much, it is horrible. host: our independent line is next. this is james from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. caller: good morning, pedro. good morning, c-span. good morning, america. i talked to you before. i am trying to run for office. mccain was a big guy. he got shot down. he had a bayonet in his leg. he got taken into a p.o.w. camp. to talk bad about the president of the united states, it is obvious. host: that is what we are talking about. what did you think about the president's statement about mccain? caller: wait a second, i don't want to get booted off your

show. you are talking about a man who is very ignorant. you talk about a man running the president of the united states. i don't want to be cut off your statement. host: the president's comments about john mccain, that is what we are talking about. youet it, president trump, don't like the late senator john mccain. you didn't like john mccain when he was shot down over north korea, being held as a prisoner of war. being captured make you a hero, i don't know ." he fired up these crazies, mccain said. you did not like it when he dared to speak truth to power

about women and about russia. one of the most disgraceful performances by an american president in memory. laurie roberts is the author for the arizona republic. john mccain looking -- making donald trump look small. republican line, john. caller: good morning, pedro. how are you? host: i am well, thanks. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to comment, the news organizations, the more they can sensationalize what would otherwise be boring news, the more advertising moneys can be charged for a quarter of a minute or half a minute of airtime. this feeds a media frenzy that is, in my humble opinion, out of control. you have lost the journalistic integrity and most americans pay little attention to the news because it is so hyped up. host: first of all, we don't

charge airtime, we don't run commercials. we are not advertising. we are taking comments about the president's comments. why do you think they are not an issue? caller: i do think they are an issue, but i think they ought to calm down. i understand c-span does not pay for advertising. i am just trying to bring sensibility to this conversation that is roiling along. it is harmful to the nation. host: the president's comments, are they an issue or not? caller: absolutely. host: why so? he is one of the most frank and candid presidents. most presidents in the past, for the last 10 administrations, have been coached and make extremely measured comments

coached by a rube of advisors. trump group of advisors. trump shoots from the hip. comments you think the about senator mccain were appropriate? caller: i think it was diminishing for his profile as an american president. i understand where he is coming from. his comment is he wish he had come straight to him with the information on the dossier. instead, he handed it over to the fbi. in trump's philosophy, that was sneaky. host: that is john in ocean city, new jersey. we will hear from a veteran in st. paul, minnesota, on our -- c-span.good morning, i think trump is accurate about mccain. i think mccain is a great man and a hero, but i think he was a

dreadful politician. no one ever understands about the fact he somehow disinvited sarah palin from his funeral. what did sarah palin do other than try to get him elected president? host: what do you think about the president making these comments so far away from senator mccain's death? caller: i think he is basically accurate. interesting character. he is not exactly my cup of tea, but his policy is the main ingredient. i think mccain was a rather petty man. i wish trump would not say some of the things he says, but i don't blame him, either. host: if you go to the pages of the arizona republic, this was phil.hed yesterday by

it makes comments about senator mccain and the title saying ignore the liberals who suddenly are defending john mccain. if senator mccain voted to appeal obamacare, the left would have savaged him and framed the mccain legacy in the worst possible light. liberals started to waste john mccain when he was cancer stricken. you think mccain did not know who they were? he did. democrats revealed themselves in the days before thumbs down when they misread procedural votes and believed mccain would repeal obama care. poor,ed nothing for the had a solid gold health plan. that from sale of the arizona republic. of the arizona republic. we set aside a line for

veterans, 202-748-8003. judy calling from delaware, democrats line. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am well, thanks. go ahead. i don't understand why people can't see the black and white of this. i don't know how that man has time to do his job because he is and everybody else's business and putting everybody else down whether it is the news, television, john mccain. i am a veteran and i respect john mccain for his views and values. i am just trying to figure out how this man in the office of president has time to do his job when he is too busy minding everyone else's business. host: specifically to the comments about a john mccain, what did you think of those? caller: the man is dead, let him rest in peace. who cares what his opinion is about john mccain.

i don't understand why he thinks he needs to force his views on the rest of this country and besmirch people. i just don't understand the negative attitude and the negative shadow that this man casts on everything. i haven't met him, but i have never seen anybody like him that has to absolutely downplay everybody and everything. host: let's hear from steve in oregon, republican line. you are next up. caller: hello. good morning. a lot of people would be upset senator president, but mccain, rest in peace, you have this man that basically went after him with a terrible itument -- it looks like created a lie and for two years, it has been a thorn in the president's side.

all these people have been convicted of things outside of that. senator mccain is really a is, very,person, who very petty. host: does it warrant the reaction the president has been giving to this? caller: if you had someone come after you and your family as bad as the media and had the justice department on all those things, i think you would probably feel the same way. you would probably become bitter and angry and say things that were not eloquent or nice. i know i certainly would. host: that is steve in oregon calling this morning. a couple of days ago, on the 18th, another piece by the arizona republican talking about senator mccain's role, revelations about the trump's dossier. this tribute in a dossier involving the president revealed recently court filings and

unleashed a new round of trump fury on mccain. mccain acknowledged getting a copy of the dossier, which is a compilation of the memos written by christopher steele and delivering it to james comey. it contained unverified information and among other things, claimed russians had compromised information on trump. david kramer, expert on russia and involved in the mccain on 2017e was disposed as part of a legal battle waged by a russian businessman over buzz feed's publication of the dossier. that was a couple of days ago in the arizona public if you -- republic if you want to read that. let's go to frank, independent line, identifies as a veteran. hello. 100%r: yes, i am a disabled veteran. i am approaching 70. i am -- i was in vietnam. i agree with president trump.

false disseminated this associatesough his to the various media outlets, about a dozen of them and trump he known this since before was inaugurated and the media has been after him now since it what it's -- it was revealed mccain gave the dossier to the fbi, the media has been hounding him for comments on mccain, so he cleared the air. host: you are saying the comments made about senator mccain in light of what you said are appropriate? caller: i believe so. i feel glad that he cleared the say.nd said what he had to mccain was a republican in name

.nly in the latter years beforehand, i don't know much about him. i watched him for the last 10 years and he did some pretty nefarious things. host: that is a collection of thoughts in our first 15 minutes . we will continue on. if you want to give your thinking on the president's statements on john mccain, 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. an independents, 202-748-8002. we have set aside a line for veterans. several have called already, 202-748-8003. one of the people making comments was johnny isakson of georgia. an interview at georgia public broadcasting ahead of the president's speech from yesterday, talking about the president's statements on john mccain in general. [video clip] >> as chairman of the veterans committee and one who remembers

seesietnam war, as one who the millions of men almost that have been deployed over seas in enduring freedom and the war in iraq and afghanistan and i doubt if you will have to deploy in the future. i want to be clear we need to talk about the politics of the to.tary anyway we want >> how do you characterize the way president trump was talking about senator mccain and what do you think it says about the president? cough.on me for the it is deplorable what he said. that is what i called it from the floor of the senate several months ago. it will be deplorable seven months from now if he said it again and i will continue to speak out because there is one thing we have to do. you may not like immigration or this or that, may be a democrat or republican, we are all

americans. we should never reduce the service people give to this country. offering their own life. that was from georgia public broadcasting. you can go to their website to see the interview and the remarks from senator johnny isakson. democrats line in philadelphia. milton, hello. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i would like to make a couple points. first of all, i did not agree with senator mccain politically. i respected his service and sacrifice he made for our country. what the president commented about senator mccain is disgusting. the man has been dead over seven years -- i meant seven months, sorry. how low can you sink to the

presidency? what i don't understand is how do veterans still keep supporting this president? when he went to france, he did not take time to pay tribute to our soldiers who died in world war i and then he comes back to the united states and doesn't go across the bridge to arlington during veterans day, he did not even do time to -- take time to do that. i don't understand why veterans keep supporting this man. he is an embarrassing -- and bears meant. as a senator, you get a dossier saying the resident might be compromised by an enemy of the country. what do you do? you give it to the fbi. as far as the dossier, not one thing in that document has been proven wrong. california,d in independent line. things that is

being said by president trump about senator mccain is terrible. it is one of those things because he doesn't want to talk about the muslims killed in new zealand, so he is going to take up senator mccain because he has no compassion for what happened to those people. the people who support donald trump, that is one thing, but politicians and republicans no better. it is not what you know, it's what you can prove. more than likely, donald trump is an asset of russia. to the comments about senator mccain, what did you find upsetting about them, specifically? , it is alll terrible, saying those things about him. --t because he did not

saying that he did not help him to get rid of the affordable care act. republicans did not have anything to back it up. that is why mccain did that. int: let's hear from terry pennsylvania, republican line. caller: good morning, pedro. thank you for c-span. i am a republican veteran chaplain and i knew john mccain most of his life after he andrned from the pow camps hanoi hilton where i served as to the force chaplain brigadier general who was a cellmate with john in the hanoi hilton. because of that, i knew and counseled both men and went pheasant hunting with them in iowa in steve king's district

and this whole thing between the president and john mccain goes back further because -- host: what did you think of the statements in recent days, including yesterday? caller: that is what i am saying, john mccain first went ted was acruz saying i gotan citizen and then that tamped down saying, let's pray about this and not speak ill of republicans and then donald trump -- john mccain gave that donald trump to make sure ted got defeated in iowa and donald labeled ted lying ted. host: how does that apply to the statements specifically about senator john mccain? caller: it has to do because i was the one that gave a cobble -- copy of the false dossier, knowing it was false. host: let's go to david in west

virginia, line for democrats. hello. caller: i am a 25 year retired veteran. senator mccain is a dr. jekyll-mr. hyde career. 35 years in the senate. the president is talking about his senate career, not his military career. senator robert seabird was not a hero, the kkk democrat. teddy kennedy was not a hero in the senate it -- senate. careers.o we honor his military career, but being a senator like schumer doesn't make you a hero in the senate. we have to separate those two careers. god bless his military career. host: the statements the

president made, do you agree with them or not? caller: i agree with the senate. he was a joke. he was on tv all the time. he was a loser as a senator. a lousy,tor, he was clown senator. host: why are the jokes appropriate? caller: they are appropriate because he had a gripe against the candidate and the president and he is not degrading the military part of senator mccain, he is talking about the senator part and that is appropriate. host: even seven months after his death? caller: yes, he gave him a grace period and his daughter and all of that, they are using that to beat up the president and downgrade him. it is appropriate. senator mccain, you know, he had a good 20 years and honor that. in westat is david

virginia, identifies as a veteran, making comments on the president's comments on john mccain. the hill reporting the senate minority leader, chuck schumer, on wednesday said he will introduce resolution to rename republican.arizona "i look forward to reintroducing renaming then russell senate building after an american hero, senator john mccain. a spokesman did not immediately respond to questions about a timeline for the resolution or what republican would be cosponsoring and the announcement came as the president revised a long-running criticism of john mccain. you can find that story in the hill. those comments about john mccain are what we are asking you. 202-748-8000 for democrats. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. veterans, 202-748-8003.

mimi off of twitter says the commander-in-chief speaking this way about a decorated military man who was a pow is sad. i did not agree with mccain's politics, but i am a life retired soldier. joseph nearly saying mccain was a traitor. the president is the best. democrats line, brenda from south carolina. caller: thank you, pedro. i hope i have enough time if my phone goes dead. i disagree with what the president says and i hope and pray that everybody is listening , republican, democrats, and independent. it is appalling the president of the united states would be so petty and disrespectful and what we have to be mindful of is i would like for you to read the yesterdays wife read about what someone wrote to her family. it is triggering anger, a good

tree. he is dead for seven months. the comments he is making is putting his family in danger. that was a vile, mean comment to tweet to that family after seven months of losing their father and husband. , we have to come together and love one another and not hate and have petty things going on like what is going on right now, especially not from the chief and commander of the united states of america. host: brenda mentioned to the comments of cindy mccain being reported on by the hill saying it was cindy mccain tweeting a screenshot of a violent message she received. the name of the person who sent it in hopes her family and friends could see what had been written. the message referred to the senator in terms i will not go

on to saying and goes on from there. you can find that story on the hill. this is from massachusetts, independent line. christopher, hi. caller: thank you very much for taking my call. regarding president trump's remarks about senator mccain, to don't think his comments were appropriate at all. itonestly feel like exemplifies trump as being unprofessional and inconsiderate of others. given that john -- senator mccain died last year, i think trump could have used some of that time to talk about things that were more constructive and meaningful for the -- the general public in terms of what we care about.

i am waiting until he finishes his term or gets impeached. host: the president made his latest remarks at the lima tank plant, the speech designed about talking about manufacturing and defense issues. it was during that time he made statements about senator mccain. that speech is available if you go to our website, c-span.org. here is another portion from yesterday. [video clip] >> i have to be honest, i never liked him much, has not been for me. i really, probably, never will. there are certain reasons for it. i do this to save time with the press later on. john mccain received a fake and phony dossier. did you hear about the dossier? it was paid for by crooked hillary, right? and john mccain got it.

he got it. what did he do? did not call me, he turned it over to the fbi hoping to put me in jeopardy and that is not the license -- the nicest thing to do. i am of very loyal person. john mccain campaigned for years to repeal and replace obamacare, for years. he campaigned for years for repeal and replace, so did rob, so did a lot of senators. when he finally had the chance to do it, he voted against repeal and replace. he voted against at 2:00 in the morning. remember? thumbs down. he said two hours before he was voting to repeal and replace. badly hurting the republican party. badly hurting our nation, and people whoy sick desperately wanted good,

affordable health care. we would have had it. host: republican line from cleveland, ohio. we will hear from bill. 202-748-8002 while you put -- caller: while you put on trump's speaking, your mouth was moving. it look like you were doing an impression. host: that is not true at all, sir. know, that is what it looked like. the rnc commissioned the dossier and hilary picked it up. the rnc commissioned it because of suspicious activity. which footwear his bone spurs in? he does not even remember. all of us would have liked to have gotten out of it with bone spurs. host: the statements about senator mccain himself, what do you think of the president saying those over the last few days? caller: aren't we beyond.

right now, the evangelicals pray to the devil so god can hear their prayers. we are not going to say anything about mccain. he was one of the best americans we have ever produced. what can we say about trump? right now, our democracy isn't working because he is president. host: stephen in michigan, democrats line, hi. caller: hi. i think this guy -- like i said, i called him the day before he got inaugurated. he is a coward, a liar, and a thief. for him to stand on hollowed ground that brave men walked and fought for our country is a disgrace. i think he ought to resign and if not, we should hold a vote now and get rid of this liar. host: that is steven from

michigan. some tweets have come in in response to the statement by the president including martha mcsally, who was appointed to the senate by arizona's governor. she writes john mccain is an american hero. i am thankful for his life of service and legacy to our country and arizona. everyone should give him and his family the respect, admiration, and peace they deserve. tennessee, democrats line, also a veteran. larry, go ahead. caller: he said he did not like veterans who would catch him. this man is a liar, cheat, and a crook and he should not be in the white house. host: the comments about senator mccain, what do you think of those? caller: it is a disgrace. you see what he did to get out of service. as a veteran, i cannot stand this liar, cheat, and a crook. have a nice day. host: this is mitch mcconnell

saying today and every day i miss my good friend john mccain. it was a blessing to serve alongside a rare patriot and general american hero. his memory reminds me every day our nation is sustained by sacrifices of heroes. that's another comment off the twitter feed. in maryland, independent line. caller: good morning. i think his comments about john mccain and his passing is one of many examples that prove how low character this man has, that he has no decency and dignity, especially as a president. i also feel as though it is a disgrace what he is doing because it shows he does not have america's interests at heart. he is thinking about his own interest and that is what occupies his time in the white house, his own interest. i just feel as though, as an

independent, i did not like everything john mccain did, but there are a lot of things i did like and i could separate the two and look at him as a whole. he was a great man, especially his service to this country and serving as a pow. that is incredible for any person. that should be appreciated, even if you did not like everything he did. we have to think honestly. if i was in the position of the president and someone put a " fake" dossier out on me, i would not be upset, i would continue about my work because i would know it would be proven wrong and anybody who said anything about it would look silly. there would be no reason for me to bring it up, you would never hear me say anything about it. host: from minnesota, republican line. this is john. caller: hello?

host: sorry, joan from minnesota. caller: thank you. my brother is still missing in vietnam. when john mccain came back from vietnam, i worked on the pow mia issue for 50 years. i know what i am talking about. john mccain never help to those men left behind in vietnam and has never helped us families trying to get our men back. that is the absolute truth. the american public do not know that. john mccain is no hero. a hero would have helped his fellow soldiers and families. he never did. the american public does not know that and should know that. host: the president's statements about john mccain, what did you think of those? caller: president trump, first of all, he has got the fact he to repealuld vote for

obama care, he did not do what he said he would do, so he is not a man of his word also. i think it is fine. i think what president trump said, i am in his ballpark. i absolutely think president trump -- it was valid what he said. it was appropriate what he said. host: why is it appropriate so many months after his death? caller: what difference does it make if it is the day after his death, 10 years after, or before he died? what john mccain did stands in history and it was wrong what he did. the last two things he did before he died, he grandstand it when he voted that last vote after repealing obama care when he said to his constituents i will repeal obama care. he went against his word. host: that is joan from

minnesota. one of the people giving comment right after the president's remarks was senator lindsey graham speaking with nbc news. [video clip] >> there is no one i admire more than john mccain redye supported him in 2000 when he was the outside maverick in the republican party. i supported him in 2008 we -- when he became the consensus choice or it i love john mccain. i learned a lot from him. he is an american hero and nothing will ever diminish that. i think the president's comments hurt him more than they hurt the legacy of john mccain. i will continue to help the president and a lot of people are coming to john's defense that call him crazy and warmongering for how this dispute is being used. my job is to represent the people of south carolina.

they want me to work with the president where i can. i have gotten to know the president. we have a good, working relationship. i like him. i don't like it when he says things about my friend, john mccain. the best thing i think can happen is to move forward and focus on the challenges like north korea, venezuela, our growing economy, fixing a broken in -- immigration system, and on and on. from here are comments mitt romney. i cannot understand why the president would disparage a man as exemplary as my friend john mccain. heroic, patriotic, self-effacing, self-sacrificing, empathetic and driven by duty, family, god. tammy duckworth saying i am not #bonespurs is attacking john mccain. his legacy of service must be an

intimidating reminder to trump of what he will never be. sheldon whitehouse saying there is something troubled in president trump constantly trying to belittle john mccain. the president must realize how far better a man like john was and will always be. senator ben cardin from maryland, democrats and republicans can disagree on policy, but we should share respect for individuals who served and sacrificed in uniform for our country. that is some responsys from members of congress over the president remarks on john mccain. mitch is next in delaware, democrats line. caller: good morning. i am a tea party democrat in ella where. i think there are three good reasons to support the president's recent comments. i think the first one that really hit all the headlines may have been an article. he has been able to command the

headline. he has brilliantly done this in the past and that speaks for itself. forcesond one is it people like the ones you mentioned previously to have to defend sarah palin's former running mate, which is hilarious. lastly and most importantly, i believe it keeps the collusion the dossier -- collusion dossier on cnn. the left was moving away from that because they already know there was no collusion, so they are moving away. it is keeping that in the headlines. those are the three main reasons i agree with the statements. host: why use senator mccain to achieve those goals? caller: i don't know how he came up with it, but i think it is brilliant because of the results. host: mitch in delaware on our

democrats line. line, greg, jacksonville, florida. caller: good morning. of c-spanyear watcher since march 19, 1979. i would like to give my support and loyalty for the program. i am real bent out of shape about the president and his remarks about john mccain. even some of my veteran brothers who may be on the others of the aisle in terms of politics, i don't think we should ever allow our politics to intercede with what is in the best -- interfere with what is in the best interest of the country. donald trump does not interest -- represent the best for

america. for that lady joan, senator mccain could have been released from the pow camp at hanoi hilton had he only said america should not have been in the vietnam war. they broke his arms because of that kind of resistance, that he would not go on the air and say that. when she said he did not do anything to help the pows, that is a misrepresented when they suffered the pain they suffered. even though i disagree with some of the remarks my veteran brothers have made. never disparage a combat veteran who has been under fire and could have been killed. host: that is greg in florida. to maryland in glen bernie, arthur is next. caller: good morning.

thanks for c-span. the short answer to the question is president trump has the courage to tell the truth and establico doesn't like it. all his military service, he is a pow. 50 years ago, a grateful nation thank you. for his political history, decades of self-serving action under the guise of being a maverick. i could not stomach the senator. good riddance, senator mccain. host: why is it appropriate for the president to use him seven months past his death? caller: because president trump is pointing out that mccain, aidesf, went through his

undeniablestart this witchhunt. that is what mccain can hang his legacy on. host: that is arthur in maryland. here is one more portion from the president's speech yesterday. [video clip] >> and the other thing is we are in a war in the middle east to that mccain pushed so hard. he was calling president bush all the time, get into the middle east, get into the middle east. now we are in that war for $7 trillion. thousands and thousands of our people have been killed, millions of people overall and, frankly, we are straining it out now, but it has been a disaster for our country. wealth spent tremendous and tremendous lives in that

war. and what do we have? it is worse than it was 19 years ago. i called them the endless wars. some more from our twitter and facebook pages. melissa saying admire the truth from each side, they did not like each other, moveon, this is life, people. i was disappointed by mccain. i admire trump costs expressions, sounds like me. stephenson saying very sad the president is upset by it -- obsessed with a deceased war hero instead of trying to solve problems this country faces. off of facebook. i, i, i, he is an embarrassment. we posted this yesterday on our facebook page, several thousand responses before the start of this program and it will probably can -- continue through

the day. you can add yours at facebook.com/cspan. we also have a twitter feed at @cspanwj. if you are interested in seeing the president's speech yesterday or comments about senator mccain or the life and influence of senator mccain, we invite you to go to our c-span website, type in the name john mccain. everything we have taken in will show up and type the president's comments about john mccain as well. all of that available at c-span.org. in texas, we will hear from phil on our independent line. good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning. i am also a veteran, but i did not have time to get the number for the veterans. think want to say is i president trump is uncouth and a lot of his mannerism of trying to express what he believes the truth is and i believe the media

from really wanting to be in the same plane as the media because they are so one-sided. confused mccain, i am in a lot of respects about what was going on. i know there was a lot of things brought out and a lot of people really did not understand it. i think i am learning more and more about the u.s. forrester and the mishap. host: back to the comments about president trump -- not only from yesterday, but peter did use of senator mccain -- repeated use of senator mccain? caller: i think it is overshot, but i think the media is overshot, too. they own everything. they are one-sided. host: the president made the

comments himself. caller: i agree, i think he should have had better tact in that message. maybe there is a lot of truth in what i am saying as far as the uss forrester. host: betty is next, democrats line. am an 87-year-old woman. my husband and my two sons are in the service. i think president trump is giving the veterans something to be ashamed of. served thean who country, was captured and dead for seven months. what are our children going to do when they come up? the president is acting worse than anybody. he is not showing respect for

anybody. you have a president. i could not believe it. i am 87 years old and i could not believe somebody would talk about someone dead seven months and no respect for his wife or family, the children. i am glad you took my call. host: that is betty in florida. we have set aside a line for veterans, 202-748-8003. if you wanted to offer your comments on it such as clarence from pennsylvania. democrat. hello. caller: thank you for taking my call this morning. i am not going to get into this and that, but john mccain wore the uniform. he was in a prison camp. my father was in world war ii. i am a vietnam-era veteran. i listen to every speech donald trump makes. i do not consider him to be that

word that he is in the white house. when he signed the bill for the raise for the veterans, he did not even mention mccain. host: since you listen to all the speeches, what did you think about the remarks from yesterday specifically? caller: they were disgraceful. he even made the comment in front of a foreign leader. if you don't like someone, okay, that is fine, but you do not disrespect -- i don't care whether a veteran is black, white, green, purple, you do not .isrespect our military he uses the military in his statement. for anybody, anybody to be a veteran and stand up for what he said is wrong. host: let's hear from debbie calling from troy, ohio, on our independent line.

good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning. i agree with what president trump said. the truth needs to be told. everybody says he lies, he lies, .e says nothing but the truth they did not break his arms, john mccain was a traitor. he killed all those men on that ship showing off. he came back and got a pardon because they were going to put him in prison. what a joke. host: why do you think it is appropriate for the president to make these comments? caller: because john mccain was against this president and involved in the coup. the russian coup the republicans and democrats and obama all did against this president with the assassination attempts that keep going on.

what a joke. everybody is defending mccain. mccain was part of the coup and they need to investigate ukraine. ukraine is the one involved in this stuff with hillary and obama and biden. host: texas is next, republican line. hello. how are you doing, pedro? host: fine, thanks. caller: the comment i have to make is something that has been on my mind for several months and it is not just what is talked about as far as president trump's and john mccain. what i am thinking is what bill mccaind about senator and senator lindsey graham. i find that very disgusting, but nobody talks about that. host: we are focused on the president's comments, so what did you think about those? caller: a man has a right to speak his mind.

i still say, bill mark, what he said about john mccain and senator lindsey graham was disgusting. host: you said the president has a right to speak his mind, do you find those comments appropriate and agree with them? with whatdon't agree he said or even john mccain's or himin the senate being a vietnam veteran, i appreciate his services. i appreciate everybody's services for the american people, but i find what bill mar said about lindsey graham and john mccain more disgusting than what the president or john mccain said about each other. host: you said he appreciate -- you appreciate his service, then do you appreciate the comments to senator mccain in light of his service? caller: i don't care to comment on that because both sides are

taking each other's family down. host: we will go to debbie in michigan. democrats line, hi. good morning. caller: good morning, pedro. i haven't called in months. so many people call with disinformation and this is depressing about senator mccain. i am with johnny isakson and i am a democrat. these comments are deplorable. don't talk bad about the dead. i got a bellyache when president alump said how low oil -- loy he was. in regard to johnny isakson saying his remarks were deplorable, this week on the circus, steve bannon called his people deplorables. host: we will hear from sherman in bowling green, ohio, a

veteran. good morning. caller: good morning. i personally think they should have walked the reporter out of their. he is there to report news, not on what somebody feels about john mccain. host: the president made the statement at a public forum, what did you think of the statements? caller: they asked the question, how does he feel about john mccain. why not ask what color underwear he has on? host: since he made the statements, what do you think of those? caller: not everybody loves everybody. he got asked a question that is totally ridiculous. it doesn't bother me. nobody loves everybody. host: did you agree with the president on this one? caller: i don't know john mccain. i have no idea. and i don't think everybody in this country knows john mccain. it's a ridiculous question.

host: dennis will be the last call on this from arizona. republican line, a veteran. hello. caller: i am a vietnam veteran and i agree with trump. was in vietnam held as a prisoner, but when he got out, the lady that went in with him, he divorced her. she was in a wheelchair. he left her for a hotter, newer model. -- and destroyed my livelihood and every other construction worker. also what mccain did is he took money from charles keating, which destroyed don glenn possible legacy. host: in light of all of that,

why do you agree with the president in -- especially in light of the comments made within seven months of senator mccain's death? caller: it doesn't matter, not to me. he still made the comments and did what he did. host: that is dennis, last call from mesa, arizona, on this topic. coming up, our guest joining us throughout the morning. we will take a look at ohio, particularly topics in light of trade and the ongoing work between the united states and china. edward hill to talk about a new report on the economic impact on trade disputes in ohio and the rest of the nation. later in the program, a conversation with duke university professor william and thedy -- darity

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guest: right now it is confusing because manufacturers themselves are complaining about the impact on cost and we are now turning to see supply chains begin to shift but employment still remains very robust. toloyers are still trying fill positions but then you also have in the background, the tragedy for northeast ohio which is the clothing -- closing of the gm plant. there is a feeling right now that the economy is beginning to shift. ohio has the largest exposure to retaliatory canada and the largest payer of retaliatory tariffs is the metals making industry. use -- who user

and theut of canada shipment of metals up to canada is increasing costs and giving supply chain problems, the largest is dealing with issues the onlyum because aluminum smelters left in the eastern and central part of north america are in quebec because aluminum prices are driven by the price of electricity. just think about the brand-new aluminum bed ford f1 50 having a 25% higher cost. host: a report your university put out, taking a look at these issues. guest: we were looking at what the 8 -- what the economic impact was in the nation and in

ohio itself. we wanted to see how the steel industry in particular was reacting to the shelter of these tariffs and whether employment was expanding and whether production was expanding and whether there was investment. the answer is not much has happened. the only thing we have seen his escalation of prices of the products themselves. host: could you give reasons for that? guest: the united states went into an economic tip in 15 and 16 -- dip in 15 and 16 and recovered quite robustly from that. down in texas, oil drilling took off. steel started decreasing before the tariffs were assessed and we saw capacity come back online. the fundamentals of the market were there. before the tariffs were

announced, we set it seeing an escalation of prices -- we started seeing an escalation of prices. steel went over $1000 a ton from $300 a ton. the gap between u.s.-made steel and chinese made steel has remained persistently large. host: our guest, ed hill. if you have questions about trade policies that the unit states employees, (202)-748-8000 if you live in what is identified as a rust belt state. (202)-748-8001 for all others. on can post your comments twitter. what is the best way to address trade problems with china? andwould you address that what would you change? guest: the issue with china, china makes 52% of the world's

steel. it is a state subsidized industry. for political reasons, they don't want mass layoffs. the globe is worrying that when china slows down or goes into a recession, where is all of that metal going to be dumped and that is a multilateral problem. what do you do with a problem like china? it has to be dealt with multilaterally. using countries getting together to make certain that dumping does not take place during a downturn. chinese steel does not play a big role in the u.s. market thanks to the wto, but undermining the wto and going to bilateral negotiations is nuts. we did a lot of interviewing this summer with the carnegie endowment for international how the report on

middle class in ohio feels about foreign policy and we got very strong answers and that was there is unanimity in the state that it is a problem that has to be dealt with. why weot understanding then turn like a frightened dog and bite canada and mexico when it comes to trade issues with china. when manufacturers tell us flat out they don't mind taking a short term pain to deal with china, but we are totally confused as to why the tariffs were against our best ally and trading partner. host: our guest with the ohio state university joining us for this conversation. the phone lines on your screen. you can also post on twitter on this conversation about trade.

abby from maryland. go ahead. caller: i could not get through on the independent line, so i called on this line. i was hung up on three times. host: you are on now. i agree we need to stand up to china but we are doing things that are hurting our farmers. we can't do that. their lives are already hard enough. host: the farmer aspect of this. addressed the farmers, particularly how they were being affected. guest: absolutely. the second largest industry in the state of ohio is farming. our largest export is soybeans. china is our largest partner. the second largest area of

export is mexico, particularly with cured meat. lot of prepared foods get shipped out of the midwest into canada because it is easier to distribute to canada from the central united states. farming comes from the western part of the state and has been pummeled. you can get a good price for a john deere tractor by going to a bankruptcy auction this summer and ohio. -- in ohio. agriculture is clearly one place where we know where the losers are. host: let's hear from mark in massachusetts. caller: good morning.

professor, with regard to nafta and the renegotiation of basically the same deal from -- it, do you think it is trybe -- why wouldn't you to strengthen nafta with american industry and mexico being a huge emerging-market and then instead you have trump alienated everyone at the same time -- alienating everyone at the same time? usmca ore u.s. -- itta 2 or some people call the village people's trade treaty, it is very similar to the original nafta document. there have been some changes

made so there is a larger percentage of parts made with labor. the important thing is the market is already doing this. i was at a meeting yesterday with 40 supply chain managers and they are doing what was already started which is global companies are tired of dealing with currency fluctuations and a number of people in the room believe that while these tariffs may be rolled back, we are in an era of higher tariff regime anyway and they are regional lysing production, which means they look at north america as a unified market. showing that is taking place in north america is labor intensive work in china and mexico. chinese firms moving and taking advantage of lower wage labor in

central and southern mexico. as we are seeing from the way supply chains work, canada is an essential supplier and we look at canada and think of california laying on its side, that is a market of 35 million people. your caller is right. we have to take a north american perspective on it and that is how america wins. we are not doing this out of being beneficent. the only way to start to deal with border issues with the ,outh is to have a healthy stable, more law-abiding economy in mexico. we know that canada is our closest ally. as we end up with trading blocks, the integration of the north american economy is going to be essential. one viewer advocates for

getting back into the transpacific partnership as soon as possible. what do you think of that? guest: our report makes the statement -- makes the remark approach.multilateral tpp is aou can revive political issue. think -- this is what came out in that previous report that we did with the carnegie endowment. ohioans across the state were saying that there is anger about trade but they are also angry about the fact that trade policy is not linked to domestic policy in the united states. ohio, also inross pennsylvania and other places,

washington never really helped to help give these towns a chance to get back to a level playing field. they did not want protection, they wanted to have the ability to reinvest themselves. there is a lot of concern about the fact that the global companies that used to be ,eadquarters in small towns something is missing when that local leadership is not there, when that corporate money is not there to invest in the community. when gm emptied the auto factories in flint, did they tear down the factories? fencest up chain-link and they stayed up for 10 to 20 years. trade flow tof the nation as a whole. we should take some of these benefits to give communities a chance to reinvest in

themselves. host: here is a rustbelt resident in pennsylvania. deborah good morning. caller: thank you for c-span. my question for mr. hill. i am originally from ohio and currently living in philadelphia . after college, i left. what makes them stay in ohio? host: is there an impact on the

trade industry, people moving out of the state? guest: there has been outmigration from the state. we are also seeing the growth in columbus metropolitan area going quite well but people are coming from the western parts of the state. the state issue is how do we -- there were a couple things that are important to remember. really caused the decline in manufacturing in the state of ohio and there is no question about the number of manufacturing jobs. is not due to trade, it is due to productivity and the productivity gains in manufacturing have been fantastic in terms of physical

product and a lot of the growth in manufacturing has been in the edges of the three major metropolitan areas. during the time double recession of the 80's and 90's where people migrated looking for opportunity and they were going to bigger metro areas. some folks in the eastern part of the state, particularly in the youngstown area, they were fans of the steelers and browns and they migrated towards pittsburgh. the caller migrated to pennsylvania. i got my bachelors degree in philadelphia and came to ohio. host: ed hill is a professor at a while state university. -- at ohio state university. ohio quote, kicked around on trade. governor and the

, theych this morning think the trade policy is about right and i respectfully disagree with the governor. host: can you expand on that? guest: having a trade policy that is largely protectionist and a trade policy that has tariffs that distorts the metal using industry is harmful for the state. there are 35 workers in the metal using industries for every worker in the metal producing industries. in other long-term threat the metal producing industries, the medium-term short-term threat no question is china dumping. the long-term threat is down in arkansas and that is where big river steel is. billion in a $1.2 furnace and continuous castor

and integrated production. they're going to invest another $1.3 billion on the same campus. option for another plant down in brownsville, texas. the reason that's a threat is they are using digitally integrated production technology to make cutting-edge plants and their margins are higher than traditional integrated steelmakers. the threat steelmakers have to pay attention to is the north american threat by companies investing in new technology if they are not investing in new technology or figuring out how to adapt their plants. host: our next caller from washington, d.c. caller: thank you for c-span. i think professor hill hit it right on the head. manufacturing in china with state subsidies and their production capacities and dumping and all of the things they are doing is not just affecting the iron industry.

synthetic turf is also getting crushed. they are building production facilities in other countries. i think the shipping issue, while it might hit some of our allies and have negative impacts in the short term, i think it is essential because we now see that state subsidized industries are shifting capacity to vietnam and other places in southeast asia. having a tariff or duty on products coming in from china does not necessarily capture and get to the point of the dumping. the other thing is that a lot of these importers are improperly coding. protection isrder taking a look at individual industries and having a tough time trying to properly code

these for the tariffs to be properly assessed. a lot of challenges on the shipping side and it is a big industry because you have companies that are marketing to these producers in china, saying we will ship to another country. you won't even have to worry about the trump administration or tariffs. host: thank you very much for the call. raises a couple interesting issues but they are partially being addressed. the canadian government passed very strong legislation to prevent trans shipping. pipe that was tran shipped out of china to korea to canada and i think also china to indonesia to canada and the canadians realized a very important part of the revision of nafta. they had strong legislation in

andoms and their customs duties are being highly integrated with the u.s. --eed, missile it mislabeling codes is an enforcement issue and i do believe customs and border patrol are on that one. the third part that he mentions is chinese manufacturers. there are smart competitive companies there. a lot of the labor-intensive manufacturing is and chinese companies are setting up branches in vietnam and starting to invest in mexico. water, it islike going to find its own level. entrepreneurs are going to find ways to help the company survive. if chinese capital is flowing into mexico and making for a healthier economy, we win.

i am fine with that. host: this is professor ed hill of ohio state university. as of this morning, cnn says the president says that chinese tariffs may stay for a substantial period of time. guest: there were a couple things about the president's concerns. in the report, we say this is a skirmish, not long enough to trigger a recession. if we take the automotive nationaland declare it -- vital for national defense, that will cause another wave of retaliation both in china and europe which will hurt the central part of the united states massively. is there wereng tariffs that were delayed from march and if they come in place, tap -- china will retaliate again and that will be very

largely disruptive. if you take the expansion of the tariffs, keep the steel tariffs to thee, add to that effect on consumer confidence that the shutdown and the fact that the stimulus effect that took place from the tax cut, the stimulus from the tax cut was larger than the stimulus that was passed to deal with the recession in 2009. he put that together and the odds of a recession start going up. -- you put that together and the odds of a recession start going up. that hit 29% in the february model. the new york federal reserve bank has a model around 25%. the increase of a recession because of the mismanagement of the economy is increasing and

you see the federal reserve bank has reacted by saying we are going to halt the increase. there was a weakening that took place and we look at the business community, the first thing is there was not a lot of noise because they thought it was short-term. the longer this goes on, the more supply chains are adjusting and the more actions are going to take place that move production from china to vietnam or as metal prices come into the united states to bring in metal using parts. ohio -- steve, you are on. caller: thank you for taking my call. what of the amount of the tariffs we are collecting and is any of that money being used to help the areas being impacted by this balance that the president is trying to bring? the result think

would be if both parties showed solidarity with regard to our trade policy to bring about this balanced trade the president is trying to achieve? guest: that is a good question. i don't know if the answer is going to be as good as the question. there has been an inflow of money into the treasury that comes from the tariffs and that goes -- that is funds by the federal government and it is pushing against that very large deficit that we have. 5% deficit is forecast to be of gdp in 2019, which is quite large. there is a series of papers that and they indicate that the welfare loss of the american consumer is much greater then the gain in revenue that the -- that the treasury is getting. the president is saying we are winning because of the flow of cash and the treasury.

the same thing was set in 2001 with the bush tariffs and it turns out, losses were five times higher than the gain to treasury revenue. when it comes to bipartisan politics, i will stay away from that one. i am in ohio, not d.c. host: on our line for others, montana, peter go ahead. and i: glad to see you want to congratulate c-span on 40 years of great service to the american public. in montana, agriculture is our number one industry, quickly followed by tourism and outdoor recreation. the trade policies that trump has initiated has hurt our montana farmers and particularly in soybean production. when i hear trump and other republicans talk about

socialism, i have to laugh because they have instituted a program, a farm program to help out the farmers throughout the midwest and i guess across the country. program, thef this future of this program, is it the --o be expanded in as things go on? we will let our guests respond. -- guest respond. guest: i will use a phrase i rarely use and that is i don't know. the politics of the farm lobby is powerful in washington and there are a large number of senators who have farm interests. around beenimarily bean production,

a drought in south america has increased the cost of heating beans. that we arelt is cost competitive and china has been issuing some contracts long story short, we are starting to trip into dumb industrial policy to identify users and give them a to bail them out which means you are ending up with a cross patch of subsidies. to subsidize the auto parts supplier? that is not going to work. the best thing we can do to get that thed and realize long-term global position of american commodity agriculture is weakened. we are no longer going to be

considered a trusted trade policy -- trade partner. 30% on solar panels, 25% on steel imports. 10% on aluminum imports. of those things including chinese industrial parts, how much directly relate to ohio or even tangentially? guest: it is quite large. in the report, we used data provided by the u.s. chamber of commerce. it shows that of the trade of -- that somewhere around 25% of traded products are affected by the tariffs. agriculture, predominately soybeans. number three is laundry soap and detergent. we produce a lot of that stuff

and canada uses a ton of it. even the canadian retaliatory tariffs were so well targeted that they got golf course lawnmowers which we have a major manufacturer. they targeted preserves. host: a rustbelt resident from north carolina. here is bill. caller: i used to be a rustbelt resident. i lived in youngstown, ohio. i retired after 38 years at a plant. i don't know who is right and who is wrong or what the answers are. to live in youngstown and watch that city which was a great town just go down the crapper over all those years. you had to give away your house to leave. i was fortunate that i was not dependent on what i got out of

that house to be able to move. right ornow who is what the answers are. that just should not happen in this country. one thing i would like to see, i would like to see for one week, , to tryy in this nation and not by something made in another country -- and not buy something made in another country. guest: i'm sure what he misses most is he does not get the -- it has helped me make -- it has helped make me the large person i am. the most important thing is

realizing that institutions like the youngstown business makestor and the america witches 3d printer capacity and research capacity -- marca makes makes whichamerica is 3d printer capacity and research capacity. -- whatbsolutely right has happened at lordstown is a tragedy but think about what gm gq -- gm's ceo said. they said they had too much production capacity. what happened with the lordstown , it went in, it was going to be the future of automotive's. relatively low profit margins.

a highly specialized assembly line was put in the youngstown plant. it could only make one type of car. when the demand shifted, the assembly line could not be adapted for other products, including suv's and that would have to be ripped out and replaced. compare that to toyota or honda. they had slightly more expensive smb lines that were more flexible so they could make multiple automobiles with multiple platforms on those same assembly lines. velocity to reduce risk in one of the biggest risks is consumers changing taste or gasoline prices. plant, it was running three shifts and everything was wonderful. they had a fairly good run, over

10 years. then the recapitalization was too high and gm was saying we have to lose three plants worth of capacity because the cyclical automobiles was back in december and we don't think we are going to see that again. she is fighting for the life of that company. 8000 salaried workers and contractors were laid off. ford made a similar announcement two days ago. host: professor, what do you see in light of everything we talked about. what are you watching most as these continuing talks for trade with china? what are some of the signposts you are looking at? guest: the most important thing i am looking at is consumer confidence. that is what is powering this recovering. if we hit june, this would be the longest recovery in

post-world war ii american history. would lookthing i for is a reduction in trade tensions, particularly with china. i don't think that will happen. third, i think the ambassador, who is an ohioan. indeed -- he was able to deal with the fundamental trade issues in china but you have to do it in a way the chinese government saves face. this is a delicate tight rope to walk. we want to do it so that we end up lowering trade tension. continue to have this recovery or this expansion continue. the: ed hill serves as

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of reparations. could you give us yours? reparations is a program of compensation to individuals or communities that have been subjected to grievous injustices. from my perspective, reparations have three objectives. the first is acknowledgment of the injustices on the part of the perpetrators. redress, which is restitution for the effects of the injustices and third is closure, which is a mutual recognition on the part of the victimized community as well as the perpetrators that the debt has been paid. host: when it comes to the specifics, how do you calculate something like that? guest: it depends on the particular set of injustices one is concerned about. in the context of the united

states, the experience of black americans as particular recipients of a rep -- reparations program, what you would have to do is calculate the full economic effects of the long-term consequences of slavery, of the jim crow period, legal segregation, as well as ongoing effects of racism that are manifest in the forms of mass incarceration, police killings of unarmed blacks as well as the racial wealth gap that is so large and persistent. united statesat history, particularly when it comes to reparations, who would qualify for what would have to be done to qualify? identify black descendents of folks who had been enslaved in the united

states is the appropriate recipients of reparations and in work i have done in a number of venues, i have argued that there should be two criteria for eligibility. the first is an individual needs to demonstrate that he or she has an ancestor who was enslaved in the unit states. -- in the united states. that individual needs to toablish that he or she, up 10 years prior to the onset of the reparations program, self identified as black or african-american or some equivalent category. host: this conversation or topic has gone on for many years with various people and administrations, including different presidents. why do you think it has never gained traction? tremendouse has been

resistance in large measure because of the way in which we have crafted our understanding of american history. a disproportionate amount of american history has been devoted to mythologizing what occurred during reconstruction, the civil war and mythologizing the case for the confederacy, leading to hero worship of individuals who actually were traders to the united states of itors to thera united states of america. there is a norm is just case for compensation -- there is an enormous just case for compensation.

joiningofessor darity us from duke university. if you want to join us, (202)-748-8000 for democrats, (202)-748-8001 for republicans and (202)-748-8002 for independents. this topic suddenly reemerged in the 2020 presidential campaign. we want to play comments from senator elizabeth warren on the topic and then get your response. [video clip] onamerica was founded principles of liberty and freedom and on the backs of slave labor. this is a stain on america. we are not going to change that until we address it head on, directly. make no mistake. it is not just the original founding.

it is what happened generation after generation. the impact of discrimination handed down from one to the next . today in america because of discrimination, we live in a world where the average white family has $100, the average black family has about five dollars. i believe it is time to start the national full-blown conversation about reparations in this country. [applause] support themeans i bill in the house to appoint a congressional panel, experts who study this and talk about different ways we may be able to do it and make a report back to congress so that we can as a nation do what is right and

begin to heal. host: professor, what did you think about these comments being made in the first place? guest: i think there are two dimensions of her statement which i view as courageous. the first dimension of her on thent is her emphasis magnitude of the wealth gap where she indicated with respect to net worth, the typical white family that has $100 relative to five dollars held by the typical black family. that is critical, a major indicator of the long-term and camilla to consequences of this historic -- and cumulative consequences of this historic path of discrimination. her focus on house resolution 40, the necessity of passing a bill that would create a commission that would have the

responsibility of outlining the long-term history of racial injustice and designing a program of reparations. prelude to that as a the reparations program that was inaugurated for japanese victims of mass incarceration in the united states during the course of world war ii, there was a commission formed. was called the commission on wartime relocation and japanese internment. that commission had the responsibility for sketching the families asjapanese well as designing an initial program of restitution. we need al fashion, similar commission to address the question of reparations for black americans. host: first call for you from dave on -- dave in los angeles. go ahead.

caller: good morning. that this is a subject that is way long overdue . with the senator approaching the topic the way she did, i agree with you, it was a noble thing to do. watch as this program progresses , where people will call in and here, i amgot second-generation and my people came from wherever and we did not have anything to do with slavery. then you also get the given-variety racists who , that slaverynes

was actually a noble enterprise. i think you have your finger on the pulse of the direction by which we must go. i am just saying, be aware of how it is that the various oppositions will try and muddy the water. host: go-ahead professor. already commented on the necessity of changing the way in which we view the american historical record. the other important observation the caller made is frequently, critics of reparations say they are such recent immigrants to the united states that they don't bear any personal

responsibility for slavery. they may even have arrived so recently that they have come after the jim crow period had ended. i have a couple responses to that type of perspective. if an individual migrates to a country, they migrate to its history and national obligations. the national obligation is what is in question here. it is not a matter of personal responsibility of -- or individual responsibility, it is a national obligation based on the historical experiences that the united states has undergone. i would also add that i presume that people who have chosen to migrate to the united states have chosen to do so based on the opportunity structure that product ofwhich is a

the level of affluence that the united states as a whole has achieved and that level of affluence was built on the backs of black american coerced labor that went on for upwards of three to four generations after the formation of the republic. host: maggie in florida -- maggie in new york, republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. is ok,lem with this slavery was a horrible thing and the entire country regrets it. what about the soldiers who died to free the slaves? to their families get reparations? -- do their families get reparations? guest: i don't know the answer to that.

i invite the caller to craft a case, if she would so desire on behalf of the individuals who fought to end slavery. i have been working on a case that is specific to the historical experience of black americans. degreeas a significant of participation in the union army after the emancipation proclamation took place, of black soldiers and a case can be made that the union would not have won the war without the participation of black troops and support from the black community that was based on the various outposts that the union army had throughout the united states. that blackue americans themselves contributed directly to their own liberation from slavery.

as a consequence, we need to factor that into the reparations bill as well. to do thehe caller research and do the estimates of what the damages might have been to nonblack participants in the union army as a consequence of the civil war. that is a separate case. ont: someone makes the case twitter saying do not forget about german-americans incarcerated on the east coast, irish americans who were indentured services -- indentured servants after the potato famine. guest: again, i invite these callers to design and develop their own case. one of the anchoring factors that distinguishes the black american experience from most of the others is that to some

degree or some extent, the other communities constituted descendents of people who voluntarily migrated to the united states. there is no question that the initial american sin of slavery was associated with forced migration to this part of the world and i think that that is the foundation for distinguishing between the black american experience and the experiences of other communities. host: let's hear from jerry in ohio. go ahead. jerry in ohio. go ahead. caller: hello? host: you are on. caller: i did not go through the screener. this is jim from michigan. host: go ahead. caller: i come from a unique situation, a very unique family. who foughtndfather and was wounded in the civil

war. i am 83 years old. my brother and i are probably the only people who can directly connect to the civil war within it -- with an ancestor. luck in your quest for reparations. personally i don't think it will i thought i was black for 75 years. we did dna and i am actually scotch irish yet i suffered all of the indignities of having to ride in the back of a bus, i wish i had known then. i would've carried my papers with me. but this was in the 50's. host: professor if you would like to respond. to reemphasizet that the criteria for eligibility that i mentioned earlier has nothing to do with dna tests or skin shade or

appearance. if this individual has an ancestor who was enslaved in the unit states and this individual black atidentified as some point in time, then they are perfectly eligible for reparations. if they suffered indignities associated with the way others perceive them, that would be consistent with the claim for reparations. i think it is interesting that this caller has a grandfather who fought in the civil war. i think that is not an entirely unique case. there is at least one individual that we know, my wife and i have worked on a book on reparations which is forthcoming and in the book, we talk about the case of

the first black faculty member at the university of north carolina, chapel hill. her father was a slave and she is still living, in her 90's but her father was born into slavery. the notion that it happened so very long ago is not altogether accurate. we are talking about the fifth generation of black americans from slavery on average but there are clearly exceptions. idea ofr this reparations program, where would the funding come from? any program of reparations that is established at the national legislative level, whether it is germany providing reparations for the victims of the nazi holocaust or

the united states providing reparations for japanese-americans, the payments are the responsibility -- or the responsibility for payments come from the government itself. it is a bill that goes to the treasury. there are ways in which this could be done that would minimize or eliminate any additional tax burden on the national population, but that is in the final chapter of our book and i dare not divulge that in advance without risking the wrath of my co-editor. host: bob in massachusetts. go ahead. caller: good morning. i have something i would like to run by you and i would like to know how you feel. c-span isnd that doing a show about the president s. i believe that lincoln was the

worst president and the only reason i say that is because in our constitution, there is a line that says all men are created equal. for some reason, the black people did not make that. that. when lincoln had the war to free the slaves, did he say, all you people canalboat? land, havevote, own the same rights as white people? that is what should have happened. host: ok. guest: i absolutely agree that is what should have happened. my understanding is approximately two days before he was assassinated, lincoln gave a speech where he said he was going to make sure black americans had the vote. at the time it would have been, black male americans because only men were eligible to vote

at the point at the end of the civil war. he gave a speech saying he would be fully committed to giving black folks the vote. john wilkes booth was in the audience. it was at that point booth made it definite to himself and compatriots he was going to kill the president. the second thing is, land was mentioned. it was definitely in progress, there definitely was a procedure underway to provide the formerly enslaved black americans with land. this is the vaunted 40 acres and a mule promise, which was never delivered ultimately. in the process of trying to provide the formerly enslaved folks with land, it began under lincoln's presidency with a

special order issued by general georgiain savannah, lotre he was going to al plots of land to the formerly and slaved. that allotment got underway. but it was reversed by president andrew johnson, lincoln's successor. i would argue it is andrew johnson who was the worst president in the history of the united states. jeff,north carolina, republican line. caller: hello. host: go ahead. reparations is another division attempt. know, everyt, you single person no matter what color they are can go back and blame somebody for something.

it is time to stop teaching incessantly in our public school systems about slavery. it is over a hundred what years old? you cannot keep charging people that have nothing to do with slavery for the guilt of being slaveowners. many whitefor us, people have suffered injustice. we just have to move on. host: thanks, caller. emphasizedi think i at the outset that i think the case for reparations is not predicated exclusively on slavery. it is critical that we take into calibrations the long-term effects of the jim

indicatedd and i also there are ongoing damages that need to be considered and i would highlight among these, again, mass incarceration, police killings of unarmed blacks and the immense magnitude of the racial wealth gap. it is not just a question of addressing the harms of slavery. as i have said a number of times, if people believe there are other communities or groups deserving of compensation, they need to make that case. this is a case pacific -- specific to native black americans. this is a case taking into account the long and cumulative trajectory of injustice imposed upon this community, starting with slavery, continuing through nearly a century of jim crow, as well as ongoing forms of racism

still persistent to this day. personal a question of responsibility. what distinguishes this case is the fact that slavery and jim crow were embedded explicitly into the legal structure in the u.s. and were enacted or acted upon on that basis. if there are other types of injustices that have occurred, we frequently have certain types of legal remedies for those. there was no legal remedy for being enslaved. there was no legal remedy for being subjected to segregation or apartheid in the u.s. because those were things written directly into the nation's laws. thank you for your time, sir. guest: thank you for having me. host: until 9:30 a.m., our today

in washington segment, call us at (202)-748-8000 for democrats, (202)-748-8001 for republicans, (202)-748-8002 for independents. we will start this segment by getting an update on flooding in the midwest by talking with legislators in this half-hour. joining us, representative adrian smith, republican, nebraska, third district. good morning. guest: good morning. host: remind our viewers of the areas most affected in nebraska. vast disastert nebraska has ever seen, not just one waterway or watershed, not just the missouri river. it is multiple waterways across central and eastern nebraska. western nebraska was hit with a blizzard about the same time. counties.t 75

across the state we have 93 counties. 74 of them have declared disaster at local level. host: when it comes to damage done, what is the extent to date and what about injuries or loss-of-life? guest: there has been loss-of-life. deaths and aen two couple others are still missing. the damage is varied. a dam broke in northern nebraska, the spencer dam, that caused a lot of damage obviously, for some communities to evacuate, washed out bridges, roads, not only on that waterway but other waterways have caused a lot of damage as well. also, ice on top of these

rivers, once the water levels came up, washed chunks of ice downstream and those caused damage as well. host: the hill and other publications saying nebraska lawmakers are making an appeal to the trump administration for help with this. who have you talked to? guest: starting at local level, emergency managers, getting things lined up for the request to the governor and the governor requesting to the president. our nebraska delegation is fully behind that. there are pending disaster payments that await action. i am hoping we can address all of them at once. host: you said you had a conversation with the vice president on this? guest: correct. we are grateful for his visit. allas not able to see it but he saw an accurate view of

the devastation around omaha, council bluffs, iowa. the loss of livestock, the about $450iminarily another $400, add million+ in terms of infrastructure damage the governor is citing. there is a long recovery. host: have you or any other legislators heard from the president? touch withve been in the administration. the president has responded to the governor. communication has been good. host: in the next couple days, what are you watching out for? what else could come because of this flooding? guest: we want to make sure these dollars get where they

need to go. we want to be reasonable in requests. even though some of these roads that are damaged are not even paved, they are still vital to many rural communities. those will require funds to repair those. that localst responders, i am very impressed with what they have already done, also, maintaining good communication moving forward to make sure federal dollars hopefully that we are able to secure will get where they need to go. host: adrian smith, third district of nebraska, republican from that state, thank you for your time. guest: thank you. have a good day. host: relief from the federal beernment, the lines will (202)-748-8000 for democrats, (202)-748-8001 for republicans,

(202)-748-8002 for independents. comments @cspanwj. syracuse, new york, bill, democrat line. ramble so justto cut me off. relief from the floods go, seems to me we don't have the money to do it and we are doing it for people who basically are middle-class. it will take a lot to rebuild a home. people who don't have electricity, as still is the case as i understand it in puerto rico, we have to take care of the people who really need it first. glenn, lancaster, pennsylvania.

caller: lancaster, california. host: i apologize. caller: no problem, pedro. here is the problem in america oury for the last 20 years: representatives don't represent us anymore. this problem should have been taking care of 20 years ago. our infrastructure is falling apart. $170n find the money, billion a year for all the illegal aliens that get across the border, and we can fight trump trying to help us in every way, give us jobs back in the democratic party and the republican party are both fighting for power instead of fighting for american citizens. host: when you say this problem, what do you mean? caller: flooding. the dam in orville.

the hospitals, schools, everything is falling apart. i rebuild schools and hospitals on military bases my whole life. you cannot blame it on new manufacturing things. the people have to get out and do the job, which americans are willing to do but our representatives do not give us the chance. ann inet's hear from west virginia. caller: i would like to make comments about the last guest, it looks like i will have to go to duke university and have a conversation with him because he obviously does not know the history of this country or black americans. africans werelack sent their people

around the world. worldy has been in the for thousands and thousands of years. this is the only country that could get rid of it. now, slavery has been around thousands and thousands of years. we only had it for 100 years. we had a civil war and got rid of it. another 100 years, we had the segregation wars in the 60's. it takes that long to get those kind of prejudices out of the mind and heart of any country, any people. alabama, independent line. caller: good morning. i was calling about something else but after i heard the last caller, i have to agree with american, as a native

what i heard the professor say was really offensive to me because you hear a lot about people being talked about, black and brown individuals, but native americans, we are really talked about -- rarely talked about. this talk of reparations is frustrating. we should be beyond that by now. there are bigger things going on in the world like the flooding in nebraska. there are more things we can be doing then talking about owing people money for situations they had no control over. post,in the washington op-ed piece by charles kushner, the founder and principal of kushner companies.

"critics and media reports suggest the company was somehow jeopardized and the company had been listed as inappropriate. both narratives were false. the property represented a small portion of the overall holdings. in new york often appeal to foreign investors, a legal inappropriate stream of funding. purchase often focus attacks on my son, jared kushner. that criticism is also baseless. you would not know it from the way his stewardship of the

company has been portrayed. he led major property acquisitions worth more than $5 billion. the company grew from 50 employees to more than 700." david is next, lakeview, illinois. lakeview. go ahead. caller: this is stephen from glenville, illinois. i would like to address racism in america. we need to move on from the complexion of the individual. african-americans are the descendents of africans. caucasians usually come from europe.

the content of your character, martin luther king jr., it has nothing to do with complexion. determines by how he feels about individuals. what hasnse, complexion got to do with an individual? white is a color of paint. ok? there are no white people. there are no black people. there are african-american descendents. host: that is david. one more phone interview as we continue to look at the flooding in the midwest. dusty johnson, republican of south dakota. good morning. guest: good morning. host: could you scope out the damage where you live? guest: i represent the entire state of south dakota. we have had a bit of snow in

recent weeks. quite a bit of rain that melted it quickly. it flowed into tributaries, eventually into the missouri. there's been a lot of flooding like the big sioux river. to give you a sense, normally you might have 20,000 cubic feet of water coming through the dam. that is a lot. a cubic foot of water is a basketball amount of water. instead of 20,000 cubic feet a second, we are looking at 100,000 cubic feet per second. when we shove that water back down the missouri, that hurts nebraska, and a current state of emergency but we have had plenty of flooding up here as well. host: what is the scope of the damage? guest: this spring flooding is not unusual but size and scope

is. because we have had flooding before, there has been a purposeful and deliberate land management, more of the land within flood zones have been turned into parks and other greenways. some homes have been damaged, ruined. it is much better than it would have been. host: has there been loss-of-life? guest: not in south dakota. we have more flooding yet to come. we had a lot of flooding last week. things died down, the water receded. we expect more warming. all of the snowpack will melt and flow into streams. the real blessing out of this is we have time to evaluate the conditions. the floodwaters will rise again. people are evacuating. there will not be loss-of-life, i believe, i am hopeful.

there will be less loss of property because we have time to plan. host: when it comes to assistance, has the state declared emergency or have you heard from the federal government? guest: this is a team sport state. several local officials have been working hand in hand. the u.s. corps of engineers is working with the governor, mayors, local officials. this is a really well oiled machine. this is being handled about as well as these conditions can be handled. there have been some states of emergency declared allowing the state to better manage but there is not anything government can do to make the water not come when mother nature wants it to. host: have you appealed to the trump administration for assistance? guest: the governor has been talking to the president. that is her job.

to playgation, we want a supporting role and help in any way the governor asks us to. she is a heck of a good captain. host: are you getting assistance from fema or other types of relief for people who are displaced? guest: there are certain thresholds that indicate whether or not federal assistance will be triggered. normally that calculation is done after you have dealt with the immediacy of the rising water and the life and properties at risk. the governors team will be calculating the damage. certainly, if certain numbers are triggered, the governor and president will work together to make sure fema assistance is unlocked for people who need it. host: representative dusty johnson, south dakota, joining us on the phone to talk about

flooding in his state, thank you for your time. guest: absolutely. host: we will hear from jeff, north carolina. hello? you are real quick to cut us republicans off/ i wish you would stop doing that. host: you are on now. go ahead. caller: the subject was this week in washington. right? host: correct. caller: this week in washington, it seems like the democrats will not let this president be a president. annoying to see this channel and many democrats, this is a democrat channel. host: it is absolutely not. go ahead. caller: you really cut the republicans off quickly. it is so annoying to see, when

you make a comparison about the shows you put on and the questions you ask, when obama was president, compared to when trump was president. it is a disturbing thing. i might stop watching your show. host: as the administrations have gone on in my history here, we have presented segments, questions dealing with aspects of all administrations, including this one. go ahead. we don't want you to stop watching. caller, are you there? regina, andgo to virginia. caller: thank you and happy birthday. one of yourcorrect previous callers, who tried to act like she knew so much about black slavery. blacks came to america in 1619. years oflking 400

black people being in america, not 100 years. the united states was not the first group to get rid of slavery. it was the europeans. it was england. .ngland had outlawed slavery united states, because it was so profitable, continued the slave trade. you have a lot to learn about what has actually been going on in this country. reparations,and black people cannot even get justice. you don't even have to worry about these people using their useless money to try to pay off whatever it is they think they want to use to sell their conscience. host: the former president jimmy milestone.ting a new

1980, iseft office in once flourishing farming business was in debt and he faced the prospect of selling the land his family had held onto for 50 years. a friend pointed out that he could expect to live to at least 80. the 39th president becomes the oldest living president of the united states, surpassing george h w bush. line.emocrats caller: howdy. two things. reparations. let's start with the indians. them for the country. not doable. flooding. maybe it has something to do with climate change?

whatever you want to call it, tornadoes in the south in february, record rain, we have gone through an incredible ren winter in missouri. you cannot sandbag your way past mother nature. line chris, independent from indiana. caller: hold on. host: you are on. seems no good news comes out about president trump. a lot of us have a different narrative. a lot of us believe what he says. i believe a totally different narrative is coming through the media. a lot of things have been covered up with the old department of justice, the old fbi, the old administration. we want them to go to prison.

media has a totally different narrative. aboutou heard anything this? host: that was chris, in indiana. op-ed from alex cesar. vaping.about "we see the potential for e-cigarettes to help addicted cigarette smokers transition to this alternative form of nicotine delivery but we are also confronted with epidemic levels of e-cigarette use of children in middle school and high school. the national academies of science reported last year that a young person who tries and e-cigarette is more likely to try a regular tobacco cigarette. these markets are on the market because the fda enforced

discretion, allowing them to be sold without official authorization. the fda is not accurately anticipating the upsurge, while we pursue changes to regulatory policy, calling on the industry to step up with meaningful measures to reduce access and appeal of e-cigarettes to young people." that is an op-ed in the washington post. cindy, go ahead. are you there? caller: i am here. host: go ahead. caller: a couple things. climate change. we should investigate the weather channel. government set up something under weather back in world war ii. we think there is problem with the chem trails and the weather

movements and the storm trails and everything. when it comes to the recent talk about mccain, i think you should run a program that you ran back on september 6, 2016. dealing specifically with this. that would be may be really good to run again. the woman that called about the british freeing slavery, that is not true. in fact, at the very turn of 1800s, one of our founding fathers wrote repeatedly to the british, the king, and asked him to please quit sending slaves to the united states. president had a speech

yesterday, not only talking about john mccain, he also did address the idea of the fuel industry, the current condition of it, and the larger issues of trade policy. you can see the speech on our website at www.c-span.org. if you are interested in trade, here is what he had to say. [video clip] >> as a result of my very tough trade actions, something i am proud of, america's steel and our mills are roaring back to life. you know that. you see it all over. we put a big fat beautiful tariff on that dump steel, sand steel and they are dumping it all over. ok, you can dump, but we will charge you 25% when you think you can take our jobs and use bad steel. i know a lot about that. i use a lot of steel.

host: that whole presentation available on www.c-span.org. the metro section in the washington post, the former governor of virginia, terry mcauliffe, saying when he left office, he appeared well-positioned for a white house run. 14 months later, it is unclear if there is room for him in a party pulling leftward. if joe biden gets in, terry mcauliffe would more than likely stay out. the only time you will ever see the words deferential and terry mcauliffe in the same sentence, would be in regards to joe biden." line,s next, independent from louisiana. caller: good morning.

pedro, thank you for c-span. great show. appreciate you all letting us come and say what we have to say. the biggest thing i think is we are not addressing -- [indiscernible] -- maybe is the fact -- [indiscernible] don't know where it will go from here. it is coming. have a good day. host: florida, mary, hello. caller: i think i am disturbed by the fact that john mccain was a simple human person. he wasn't perfect. this attempt to make him into some kind of saint is really not appropriate. clear aboutident to

how he feels about mccain? yes. mccain was involved in transporting that dirty dossier, which quite honestly was a coup d'etat attempt into the hands of the fbi. his hands are not clean. he was a major disappointment when he voted against obamacare, to not change obamacare so it might work. that is how i feel about it. mary commenting on the recent statements about the president. if you go to the wall street journal, taking a look at the acting defense secretary, patrick shanahan, being looked at because of ties to boeing. the inspector general's office said it would look a compliance that he "took actions to promote his former employer, boeing, and

a violation of ethics rules." also, "acting secretary shanahan has committed to upholding his agreement with the dod, ensuring any matters pertaining to boeing are handled with officials at the pentagon." dominic, new york, independent line. caller: good morning. the president's speech, accomplished a ton of stuff, putting everybody to work, everybody is happy. i think, he has to relax on mccain. i loved mccain. i love president trump. i think he is doing a great job. he created 6 million jobs. everybody is working, happy.

nato nations are paying their share. we have contracts from the middle east, $50 billion from saudi arabia for missile defense. all the countries that don't want to be mentioned. the guy accomplished so much. he should leave mccain to rest in peace. host: maria, philadelphia, pennsylvania, democrats line. fan of i am not a president trump. he is cutting all the benefits people,le, mentally ill poor people, people on welfare, meals on wheels, especially the mentally ill. if they have to pay for their medication, and there is no housing for them, it is getting rid of everything that can help anybody. that is the problem. they don't help them. if they get sick, they right

away, they put them in a bad spot. why don't they rebuild some hospitals? everything is closing. homeless people. i don't agree with the other gentlemen. doing so great. the poor people are still doing terrible. host: that is maria. we show you stories about the actions of the supreme court all the time, when cases are being heard. new york times this morning highlights hearing from an actual justice of the court. clarence thomas. .his is the justice's united "as mr. flowers lawyers concluded her argument, clarence

thomas asked his first question from the bench since 2016." asking,"ustice thomas -- [indiscernible] varied buttions have more that is available in the new york times. mike, missouri, independent line. wonderingm kind of ,here the republican party morals and family have gone. i want to know why they are talk andonald trump run john mccain, one of the

greatest americans ever to live, into the ground. i am independent. i will vote republican, democrat, whatever i think is best. right now what is best is the democrats. have gone a little crazy other republicans have gone immoral and liars. budget,dent trump's new look at the things they are cutting. they are cutting social security, medicare, the epa. there cutting education. how can all those things be good for our country? week or the way, last so, we have done several segments on this program looking at aspects of the 2020 budget released by the white house before it goes to congress. if you're interested in those

segments, medicare, social security, go to our website at www.c-span.org. you can find those segments, topics, from the last week. troy, missouri, republican line. caller: thank you. good morning. i want to congratulate c-span on 40 years. congratulations. please correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding is this is also the 20th anniversary of book tv. c-span2ssert book tv on is the best television programming on the air in the united states. good day. host: are you still there? i believe troy is gone. thank you for the comments about book tv and our 40th anniversary. carolina,orth

democrats line. caller: good morning. agree with not the last caller but the one before, that said trump is cutting social security, medicare and all that stuff. he is definitely doing some things that are not good. the epa rollbacks are something i strongly disagree with as well. we are in big trouble with climate change. however, his remarks against senator mccain i found absolutely despicable. that man was a hero in my book. he was five years in a prison in vietnam during the war. they tortured him. he would not give away the countries secrets. how can you talk bad about a man like that when he is gone? it is just, it is just despicable. then again, i am no great fan of

trump. host: richmond, virginia, independent, mike. caller: i wanted to say with reparations, closure is a good thing. with regard to the flooding, what is the comparative monetary value with regard to puerto rico and houston, texas and florida? with regard to the nebraska flooding? is there, in terms of monetary value, is the value of this flooding and hurricanes and heat and use of power and power outages, is this becoming more of an economic impact? news -- mprews,org, a judge blocking oil and drilling programs, saying all drilling is blocked in 500 square miles of my owning.

-- of wyoming. "the order marks the latest in a string of court rulings over the past decade including last month in montana., that have full to the u.s. -- faulted the u.s. for inadequate consideration of greenhouse gas emissions when issuing leases and permits for oil, gas or coal production. the u.s. bureau of land management auctions public lands for oil leasing, officials must consider emissions from future leases nationwide." coming up in the remaining time we have left, we look at the work of the first lady, including her be best program and the larger work of the first lady with anita mcbride. conversation, coming up.

the 30th anniversary of the exxon valdez oil spill. remembering george h w bush. the inventor of the world wide web. all this weekend, on american history tv. eastern, 12:30 p.m. three programs marking the 30th anniversary of the exxon valdez oil spill, the second largest in the u.s. [video clip] >> the captain called the coast said, immediately, and he we are hard to ground and evidently leaking oil. he said on the radio he was going to try and rock the boat and get off the reef and proceed, which was just a terrifying possibility. the ship was so badly damaged, there was a good chance it would capsize. >> sunday at 8 p.m. eastern on the presidency, james baker

remembers his longtime friend, president george w. bush. [video clip] serve asprivileged to his secretary of state for four years and i was extraordinarily fortunate to serve a wonderful friend and a beautiful human being, as we all know, but to serve as secretary of state to a president who understood he had to defend me and protect me even when i was wrong. >> at 9:00 on the 30th anniversary of the world wide web, a conversation with its inventor, tim lee. [video clip] >> imagine you have a big problem in the pieces are in different people's brains. web be a place where if i have an idea, i can put it in

to the web and eyes i wander around the space looking at other people -- and as i wander around the space i can look at other people's ideas. >> watch american history tv, this weekend on c-span3. washington journal continues. host: anita mcbride with american university center for congressional studies, also served as the former chief of staff for former first lady laura bush. can you scope out recent developments? guest: one of the most recent was this opportunity she used to convene all the agencies programs funded

through the federal government. but i found gratifying about that was it was continuing to work of another first lady, laura bush, helping america's youth initiative, after three years led to the executive order signed by president bush on establishing interagency youth working group. trum is nowp using that as a convening power. be best is the initiative she announced in may, 2018 in the rose garden, that this would be her signature initiative that would look at all of the social issues that health children face in our country today. where she can shine a light on programs helping them be the best young people they can be. host: they look at social media,

opioid use, overall well-being? guest: absolutely. mostlye found is so manye programs, but agencies of the federal government have money, resources and initiatives directed toward these components of improving life of children. she has added another agency. drug enforcement agency. here is something from the first lady on monday about the initiative. [video clip] has and always will be on our children, the next generation. they are our future doctors, nurses, firefighters, generals,, teachers,

pilots, designers, reporters and missionaries, just to name a few. be best, i launched my initiative. throughout the past year i've had the opportunity to work with many of you, traveling domestically and internationally best.er to promote be well-being, online safety and opioid abuse. host: how does this effort differ from others? guest: it is an excellent example of how first lady's can be focused on issues they care about. she cares about children. we see the genuine nature of her interaction with children. laura bush cared about it. michelle obama took on the childhood obesity initiative. president obama supported her work on that. that fit directly with health

care reform. this is a perfect use of a first lady's platform, without a doubt. with the social media effort, she will be asked about her husband's use of twitter? guest: she will be asked about it. every parent knows social media is having a dramatic impact on the health and well-being of children and on their mental health. she is right to talk about it. that cannot be divorced from the fact that she is living with someone who uses social media in a variety of ways, not all of which we would condone for our kids. host: does it complicate it? guest: great question. i don't think it should mute it. it may complicate it but it is important to talk about it. host: let's hear from some calls.

somerville, south carolina, republican line. caller: good morning. guest: good morning. trump is think mrs. doing a good job. laura bush also did a good job for the children. michelle obama seemed to have started some good things for the kids but didn't follow through with the lunches. that didn't work out in the schools. the kids weren't eating the lunches, i guess because the parents were taking them to these fast food places maybe after school, for dinner or whatever. thank you so much. guest: i think you find it is difficult to implement something in the school lunches was controversial. no doubt about it. i think over time, even that

begins to work itself out and people are more mindful of healthy eating. launchrything that you has the success you might want. host: are there federal dollars behind these efforts? guest: in each of the agencies, that are already appropriated and have been utilized for many years. what she is doing, and what other first ladies before have done, which is really important, is they can shine a light on what the programs are doing, and make these travels to cities around the country from coast to coast that are the benefit of those federal dollars but also there are a lot of private and volunteer and nonprofit programs that exist as well. carolina,us, north democrats line. marcus is gone. from montana. i agree with this.

sure, we needke to find a way where we can help. we want to help but we don't use a computer here. we don't seem to have any connections on how to contact anyone, not using the computer. my heart goes out to the children. they are the future and they always will be. the most innocent of all. we need to help them. we need to help moms and dads. i totally agree with it. i think she is spot on. again, for people that don't use a computer, what can we do to make contact with people so we can make an effort to help them? guest: that is a great question. one of the first things to do is see what in the community you are living in, are there children's youth centers, afterschool programs, things

going on where you could be a volunteer or mentor. you could read to children after school. help children improve literacy. extends to helping adults as well. one of the projects barbara bush worked on was adult literacy. mothers, who if have the lion share of responsibility for their kids, if mothers and fathers are not reading to the level they should be, it is more difficult for their children. there are wonderful adult literacy programs as well. the 30th anniversary of barbara bush's foundation on family literacy, would be a great place to engage in something like that. host: shirley, baltimore. i would like to talk about school lunches in the government getting involved in what our children eat.

that is a very bad idea. i don't understand why the mom and the local school district is not deciding what the kids will eat for lunch. i want to remind you, michelle obama did start some kind of butram on eating healthy president obama did not support her, because he made jokes about it all the time. that is not a president who is supporting that program. thank you. guest: this starts with what happens in the home, with families and parents and the influence they have on their children. what was important about the initiative that michelle obama launched is really helping to bring the dialogue into the national consciousness. over time, it can have an

impact. i absolutely agree, we are a country of free will and choices. i remember growing up, it was the moms that cooked lunches in school. that does not happen now. it underscores the family influence. the government can only do so much. saying,rper on twitter "do we even see melania trump." is this a perception issue? guest: it has been an issue since her first speech, july, 2016, cleveland at the convention where she delivered what would otherwise be considered a good speech, where her heart was and her pride in being an american, then the next day she wakes up and there is a complete storm around it because it had been listed.

skittish aboutou getting out there. she also has said from the beginning, november, 2016 after donald trump was elected, she was going to take her time in what she was doing and assemble a staff overtime, perhaps a smaller staff. all of those things are getting a little bit stronger and more streamlined for her. she has a few more people on her staff. she has made visits to seven cities. she has done town halls. she is doing a little more. the speaking in the east room, the state dining room, on a covered event with cabinet secretary's is a great step. host: north carolina, independent line, daniel. caller: i am a christian and as far as donald trump's wife's political doings, all god wants

us to do is always do our best. donald trump is the best president we have had since ronald reagan. he was the best one in american history. host: ok. guest: i worked for ronald reagan. i would agree, he was one of the best. host: joanne, arizona. caller: good morning. c-span isy people say showrat, because you don't -- you don't show melania trump, her speeches, or when she talked to anyone. host: we just showed you a bit of a presentation she made. me, i ameople like disabled, people want the government doing everything for them, believe me, you don't want to be dependent on the government to live.

i cannot afford c-span2. i have to pay more to get c-span2 and 3. you are not for the working class. host: i will stop you only because our main channel carries a lot of the presentations we have including the presentations of the former first lady. if you don't have access that way, go to our website at www.c-span.org. if you type in, melania trump, we will show you every event that features the first lady. nancy, queens, new york. caller: hi. i'm calling about the fact that the school lunches, my granddaughter has a pre-existing condition, obesity. they serve the children chocolate milk. not serve them regular milk? it is like america is addicted to sugar. --t: this lunch program,

guest: i am listening to that touched for people, and it comes back to a comment someone said earlier. we don't want to be told what to do or what to eat. and the school lunch program is ground zero for some of the issues particularly our liberties. did --h the first lady but what the first lady did was race and national consciousness a stuff like this who has propensity for obesity in their family. it makes you more conscious of your choices. ultimately, you get to make the choices. host: is it fair to say the real

impact of this program won't be seen until overtime? guest: it does take time. programstime for the to really have their impact and have some measurable results. but the most important thing is that you can never stop talking about it, and never stop working towards it. the white house life of a first lady from issues they have worked on, issues they feel deeply about our important for the country and a need to keep talking about them. one of the comments of one of your earlier comments made about not covering -- one of the callers that commented about not covering the first lady, it is hard to get coverage when you are the first lady because people are more concerned about what the president is doing,

which is fair. gettingcoverage she is his better than before -- is getting better than before. thank you for your time. then tomorrowu morning. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [cheers and applause] >> the chairman of the joint will be speaking

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same, butars are the c-span's big idea is more relevant today than ever. no government money supports c-span and its nonpartisan coverage is supportive buyer yourog -- supported by cable provider or satellite provider. it serves as economic development at the ohio state university joining us from columbus, ohio and on trade issues. good morning. your university put out a report looking at the economic impact on the trade skirmish of 2018 in ohio and statewide. we hear the term trade war a lot. what does that mean for those who live in ohio? guest: it is confusing. the