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president tony perkins about the trump administration's efforts to thwart the -- and the sierra club ♪ host: good morning. the house is scheduled to meet ata brief pro forma session 2:30 eastern today. we begin today marking one week since robert mueller delivered his report on the rush investigation to attorney general -- russia investigation to attorney general william barr. now, some are calling for a reckoning. this morning, we are asking you to grade how the media handled the probe.

.emocrats, call 202-748-8000 republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. you can also catch up with us on social media. a very good friday morning to you. we want to hear your thoughts on the media and the molar probe -- -- robert mueller probe. [video clip] >> all of the democrat politicians, the media bosses, bad people -- [crowd booing] , thee crooked journalists totally dishonest tv pundits -- by the way, they know it's not true. they just got great ratings. their ratings

dropped through the floor last night. did you see that? [applause] and our friends, tucker, sean, laura, through the roof last night. [applause] the current and former officials who paid for, promoted and perpetuated the single greatest hoax in the history of politics in our be -- i'mhey have to sorry -- they have to be accountable. host: that was the president in michigan last night. this is matt, author and contributor with rolling stone, he wrote "of course there won't be a reckoning. there never is.

but there should be. we broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of , starting with the prohibition on reporting things that we can't confirm." margaret sullivan in "the writes,ton post" reckon that american citizens would have been far worse off if skilled reporters hadn't dug into the connections between trump's associates and the russians." --

we want to hear your thoughts this morning on the media and the robert mueller investigation. mike is up first. republican. go ahead. caller: good morning. happy friday. i agree with the president on this. ed this on your facebook as well. the media promoted this, they wanted it to be true. they took small grains of innocuous and innocent behavior such as trump as a private citizen and real estate developer wants to build a hotel in moscow. that's not illegal. obviously, the trump organization probably had ongoing ties or communications before theussians"

election or before he got into the election. that is not illegal. they never drew the line between , businessvior behavior -- they tried to fold it into a plot. docier was part of opposition research -- when hillary lost the election that wills so much come out about the obama -- itministration turned into a soft coup. you have john brennan out there backpedaling. you have people who are afraid because they were invested in this. chargesere were 200

against 34 people and three russian companies filed over the course of those 22 months. six of those indicted, former trump advisors. caller: good question, valid question. we know for a fact that the russians -- that is a broad term -- russian government, russian operatives, russian governmental agencies, i'm not sure, but the russians did insert themselves into the 2016 presidential election. they've been doing that for a long time. i'm 63 years old. the united states does this. doesn't justify it, doesn't make it right. we get involved in foreign elections. when the soviet union collapsed, we supported boris yeltsin. , president barack

obama, i will defer to his title -- host: what about the media? coverage of the charges and the guilty pleas that came from the investigation? caller: good question. charged russians were for trying to hack or influence the election. again, there's been no ties to the -- the whole basis for this whole thing was that trump was he was conniving with the russians. all of the trump associates that have been indicted or convicted, , none ofor whoever --m that were convicted -- all of their

crimes were considered process crimes. they were discovered inadvertently. as the judge on the case admitted, none of these people if note in court today for their connection with the president -- host: a week after the mueller probe concluded, delivered that 300 page report, asking you about the media coverage over the 22 months of the mueller probe. >> a lot of times, they gave good information, but then they were speculating. sometimes i just change the channel if there is no new information. i like to say something about the trump rally in grand rapids,

michigan. i watched it this morning. display of going over his campaign like he's been doing all the time. audience are the white racist people, low information, and they give white people a bad name. that why do you make conclusion about every single person in that audience? caller: because of the way they applauded trump. the information trump gave about who saved the auto industry -- it was obama. the things he's taking credit he'sthings obama did, lying about a lot of stuff. , the people should know evidence proved trump has been

lying about his accomplishments. conversation about the news media coverage. we posed the question on our facebook and twitter pages. laura writes in "i'm thankful for the free press." wally saying "i remember wha watergate. " --ites inhtso your grade of the media over the 22 month mueller investigation. d.c. independent. caller: i will give the media an f for failure. gaps.are such huge

the obsession on corporate media investigation,r fine, but to barely report on report on to barely climate change conferences, to barely report what climate change is, the spiraling impact of all these things, the media falling in line and not really analyzing carefully what's going on with the united states and venezuela is horrendous. it's helping brother to kill brother, it is a violation of the u.n. charter. at the same time we are worried about the russians infiltrating will go and, we have a horrible military intervention, and there no skepticism in the press. no skepticism in the

press. they are falling in line. informationhing for just to flesh out the reality of it. the corporate media is failing to inform the electorate and we will fall into another intervention? i thought we would have a couple of years off since the 1980's when we invaded el salvador, and nicaragua, killed thousands in guatemala. of course more people are coming. host: here's more of the criticism of the media. , some of his tweets saying --week,

more from glenn greenwald -- --tt hume from fox saying one more from the national review editor --

just some of the speculation, some of the conversation around the media this week when it comes to the molar investigation -- mueller investigation. what do you think? caller: i believe they did a good job. we wouldn't have known anything about it. trump wouldn't have an interview with investigators. he would lie about this. him, hepeople around fired them. get all his lies out and all the people will believe everything he say. yesterday, he made a fool out of himself.

these republicans out there these a fool -- republicans not doing their job, they should resign. got, hesident we've been lying since he got there, he gonna destroy this country -- host: it's more than 300 pages. do you think there is more in there that you would like to see? caller: i would like to see all of it because we paid for it. out -- itof its come has come out. he's covering this man up. that's why he hired him to cover him up. host: as "the wall street journal" notes on its front

page, the fight continues to escalate on capitol hill. here's nancy pelosi her thursday press briefing yesterday, talking about the attorney general's summary of the mueller report. [video clip] >> no thank you, mr. attorney general. we don't need your interpretation. show us the report and we can draw our own conclusion. we don't need you interpreting for us. it was condescending, it was arrogant, it wasn't the right thing to do. the sooner they can give us information, the sooner we can make a judgment about it. somebody thought i was joking when i said this. i'm deadly serious. as a foreign government comes to you and says they have --ormation on your opponent and a member of congress or -- anyrunning for office

member of congress or person running for office, you take that to the fbi. if they didn't bring the information to the fbi, they were delinquent in their responsibilities. host: our question this morning is about the media's coverage of the mueller investigation. it in his steve puts cartoon. standingesident trump on a mountain of lies yelling down to reporters, "why didn't you believe me?" josephine in livingston, new jersey. independent. caller: good morning. i'm saddened by what i'm saying. i'm saddened by what i saw last night. i'm old enough to remember when castro used to go in front of his populace and give rant and

rave speeches for hours. is this man trying to emulate castro? i saw all these redshirts in the background -- we always thought of the color red in relationship to communism, the communist, the reds. host: back to the question about the media and its coverage of the mueller probe. there, if they were not he would get away and any politician would get away with murder. they are there to protect our rights. they are letting you understand what's going on. i remember the reagan administration, i remember iran contra, i remember all the investigations.

because of president --nton and the republicans it was always the press. can i fault every press? no. the washington post has been superb. look at what they are bringing out now, the graph on corruption. i'm so disgraced by this president. i don't know how people can look at a man who looks you in the face and stabs you in the back and says i'm not going to take your medicare -- host: this is david in new york. republican line. caller: good morning. you will have a tough time keeping people on topic here. i would break the media down into two different categories, the television media and the

newspapers. f,ive television media an basically. you have zucker, the head of cnn, saying we don't do investigative journalism. so, what does he report? does he just report gossip? as far as the papers, new york times, wall street journal, usa today, those are the main ones i read -- there's the washington them af course -- i give better grade, i give them a d. they seem to do more in-depth analysis of what's going on. newspapers, to the you get a better idea of what's going on. host: you talk about breaking it down into those two categories. this is from the poynter institute on journalism, their

story about what's been happening this week when it comes to this media reckoning. they write there's no question the media dedicated time and resources to this story. cbs, msnbc and 32 minutes -- cbs, abc and nbc aired 332 minutes on their evening te laststs about russiaga year. caller: i don't think it's overkill. they are not doing a good job on television. they are doing a terrible job. it's like they are cheerleaders. get upt a position, they

on their hobbyhorse and they bring in consultants or advocates -- they are advocates for a particular position -- and then they spout their partisan belief. and then they act as though that's really looking at a topic in-depth or whatever the subject matter is, they do it constantly. the papers will spend a little bit more time -- television is all about commercials and getting ratings. least spend a little more time getting to the bottom of the story. you have to read the entire article. you can't just read the first five paragraphs. you have to get to the eighth to get to the crux -- you have to get to the eighth paragraph to get to the crux of the issue.

they will start with a sensational headline. you have to work your way through the entire article to get to the real gist of what the story is. host: do you feel like it used to be that way when it came to the headline versus reading the entire story? caller: i don't think so. host: when did that change? caller: i'm 62. i think the change really started -- i don't want to say with trump. it's probably earlier than that. it probably started in the 1990's. it started to shift a little bit. -- welinton first republicans spend way too much time on clinton, just hammering and hammering. it is an attempt to gain political advantage. host: you mentioned the newspapers -- what newspapers do you subscribe to? caller: i get a printed version

of the wall street journal. i have a digital version of the journal as well, a digital version of the new york times and that's it. i tried to get past the pay walls on the washington post and usa today. host: thank you for spending some time with us this morning. kyle is up next in frederick, maryland. press hasdo think the been heading down speculative pathways. this is an example of that. to hear about donald trump talking about that during andspeech, calling tucker shawn his friends -- sean his

friends. there was a gentleman talking before about the russia-trump -- thoseen discussions were going on until august of 2017. he lied about that. why was he lying? donald trump is not exonerated. we need to see the report. host: that is kyle in frederick, maryland this morning. the president had a lot to say about this at his rally last night in michigan. here's more from the president on the media. [video clip] >> the crazy attempts by the democrat party the fake news media right back there -- booing] toand the deep state

overturn the results of the 2016 failed, thee greatest election we've had in a long time, may be from the beginning. -- maybe right from the beginning. [applause] [crowd chanting "trump"] this was nothing more than a sinister effort to undermine our historic election victory and to sabotage the wealth of the american people. this is the one we want. us,ant ourselves, we want and that's what we got. [applause] we came from all over to

vote. they are never taking it away from us, ever. our movement took on the political establishment, the corrupt media, and it's never been more corrupt than it is today. [crowd booing] >> and many special interests. that's why they tried to do everything possible to take us out, but we are very tough to take out, aren't we? [applause] host: getting your thoughts this morning, your grade of the coverage of the russia investigation. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. cspanwj.er, @ sigmund freud

writing -- in --iting jody saying -- one more from jim, asking whether msnbc ever had a guest who believed trump may be innocent. decatur, georgia. an independent. go ahead. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: my whole take on the media is the corporate needed -- they call it fake news -- corporate media is about making money. wanted donald trump

elected. they are making more money than they've ever made. t aabama, electe clown, get a circus. we've got a circus. ain't nothing but a show, a circus. there you go. host: paul from west palm beach, florida. good morning. caller: hi. i'm a republican. cnn, msnbc,d to say new york times, the washington post, they receive an f from me. .ox news receives a b or c these groups have been lying for 2.5 years to bring this president down.

adam schiff should be held accountable. these people should be ashamed. they should apologize to the country. host: you mentioned some of those not in the media, congress adam schiff of california being one of those. a lot of focus on adam schiff from republicans, calling on him to resign in the wake of what he's said about the russia investigation. letter saying your actions are incompatible with your duty as chairman of the committee which had the obligation and authority to provide effective oversight of u.s. intelligence. faith inwe have no

your ability to discharge your consistent manner consider with your constitutional responsibility. shift responding -- chiffessman s responding, nancy pelosi responding -- [video clip] >> what would be the proper adjective? for the, sad, republicans on the intelligence committee to take the actions they have. they are afraid of the truth. they are afraid of competence. they are afraid of a leader who is recognized for being calm, professional, patriotic.

of so proud of the work chairman adam schiff in a stark contrast to the irresponsible, almost criminal behavior of the previous chair of the committee. what is the president afraid of? is he afraid of the truth? that he would go after a chairman of a committee, a respected chairman in the congress? they don't know what to do, so they have to make an attack. they did the wrong thing. the american people know that. it's their own insecurity, their own fear of the truth. theirfear of the facts -- fear of the facts. host: 10 or 15 minutes left in how youment, asking you

would grade the media coverage of the mueller investigation. herb on the line for democrats from new york. caller: good morning. my point is the american people should not be that surprised that most of the mainstream media, both the print and electronic media, concocted this russia, russia, russia business. at least we had one major fox, thator example, was somewhat skeptical. that was some print skeptical of this russia business. skepticism. there is 100% support of the government's position when it

comes to international affairs. thee old enough to remember weapons of mass destruction with saddam hussein, it was 100% of the media that said he had it. -- in theck aragua nicaragua contra business, 100% -- more recently, the business with venezuela. the mainstream media, 100%, including fox, including the washington examiner -- host: is it a rally around the flag mentality if it's a story that happens outside u.s. borders? caller: yes, i think that is a major part of it. there's something going on that's very frightening.

it bothers me to quote this person because, in my opinion, he's a monster. the propaganda, chief of the hitler regime. he said give me control of the german press and i will have control of the german people. even thoughelement, i hate to compare that monster to what's going on today, i think there is an element of what's going on with our media, both print and electronic, when it comes to international affairs. host: that is herb in new york this morning. jesse in new albany, indiana. an independent. good morning. caller: i think the media has done a horrible job. the question i would like to see answered is all of this is

brought about and i've heard everybody talk about how the foreign influence over our elections will devastate our republic. i agree with that. aton't see anyone looking the foreign influence that we know happened. the clinton campaign paid a to speak with the russians and speak with ukrainians and everybody else to collect dirt on donald trump. wholemocratic party as a is promoting the rights of noncitizens to vote. i don't see how you can get more foreign influence in our republic then to let -- than to let noncitizens vote. look at what barack obama did

with israel, trying to influence their elections, there is all kinds of instances where there was collusion that we know of. host: bring me back to the focus on the media. have placescan you in california that are saying, wek, we will be inclusive, will let these four nationalists vote in our elections -- foreign nationalists vote in our aroundns and then turn and say we don't want foreign influence? host: the status of the media and journalism in general when --comes to journalism hiring this is a column in "the washington times." the concept of journalists has

changed. recent job announcements from what thelets define forred expertise includes webnow , audience analytics, a dynamic personality and familiarityd with python -- 28% mentioned interviewing skills. fewer than 15% have decided subject knowledge and experience

and only 10% mentioned multilingual proficiency. tony is in baltimore, maryland. democrat. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. media coverage put trump in the white house. said what'sbs happened out there is not good for our country but good for our bottom line. paid tobio's campaign start the dossier. the clinton campaign picked that up. papadopoulos drunk in a bar in england talking to an australian that they'veld him had contacts with the russians and were looking for dirt on hillary. bring me back to the media

coverage here in the grade you would give them -- and the grade you would give them. watch all the channels. even on fox news, you have two or three people that are and it's different degrees of which way they lean, -- ishepard smith on to can't think of the other guy -- the other two cable channels, it's the same thing. it depends on who is up there. host: who do you prefer to watch? caller: i prefer to watch shepard smith at 3:00. after dinner, i'm watching msnbc.

once in a while, in the evening, -- i can't think of a third one. i'm getting old. host: what is it about shepard smith or his reporting style that makes you tune in? news people who news and then people who give opinions. that's mainly the difference. host: this is clyde in san antonio, texas. independent. go ahead. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: yes. caller: grade wise, i would say the media in total was only adequate. theys more to do with what

don't report and what they do report. the media that comes on television, i would say that they had a great deal to do with electing trump. the print media, on the other hand, has more in-depth reporting and better analysis of what's going on. in terms of them reporting on the mueller investigation, there is people who knew what was going on there. omitted from the visual media was the russians really didn't need much help. you already had the help coming from the organizations funded by .reitbart, the koch brothers were the people

that needed to be reported on. whether mueller got into that or not is pure speculation. none of us know what's going on there. tot: the report was given the attorney general about immediate reckoning -- a media reckoning. should that have happened along the way? caller: it should have happened. i didn't see it. we are big fools. all we do is watch television and don't read very much. we end up rooting for the blue team or the red team. that's just high school sophomoric. host: what papers do you subscribe to? caller: i don't subscribe to any, but i get a lot of news off line. times, i the new york

read newexaminer, i've york intelligence, i've read the real news network. so i can be a bit more adequately informed. of it's still a matter nonreporting certain things -- not reporting certain things. i think russia probably did in the election but they didn't need any help. host: butch is waiting in michigan. republican. go ahead. caller: hello? host: good morning. caller: i would like to answer your question about the media. media islieve social blockingg socialism by

and shadow banning conservatives and republicans? done $30 billion -- dump $30 by having theh government run 5g. ifwe pay for these services, they would drop that down to $10 per service, $30 a month, perio you couldh household, month backlion a into our economy. host: kurt in ashburn, virginia. independent. caller: hi. media has done a cbs, cnn-- i'm talking

-- i wish i would see more objective reporting of the news. i would like to see the actual of what'srting, more actually happening and not so -- when they say foreigners and russians, we have 2 million russian americans living here right now. i don't know who is to determine americanforeigner or -- i would like to see all the people relax, both republicans and democrats, and i would like to see more independents in every single seat in the house. there should be more independent overall in this republic.

host: our last caller in this segment of "washington journal." plenty more to talk about. to discussny perkins the trump administration's efforts to expand the ban on u.s. funding of abortion services overseas. will join usera for a conversation on the green new deal and other climate change legislation. we will be right back. ♪ >> sunday night on q&a, joan talks about her latest book, biography ofa john roberts. >> however john roberts votes

now, he will determine the law of the land. the liberals want him to come over a little bit. the conservatives are trying to hold him back. meanwhile, you have this chief justice declaring there's no such thing as an obama judge order from judge -- or a trump judge. he wants to portray the bench as not political. all have their agendas of sorts. once, tv was simply three giant networks and the government supported service called pbs. 1979, a small network rolls out a big idea. let viewers decide all on their own what was important to them. c-span opened the doors to washington policymaking for all to see, bringing you unfiltered

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it goes back to 1984. ronald reagan, his administration in a conference on family planning with yo the u.n. announced a policy that we any organization that funded abortion or promoted abortion. that was in place during the reagan administration. put back in place by the bush administration in 2001 -- host: what was announced this week? guest: closing some loopholes. there was an expansion of the mexico city policy initially under the trump administration. $9 billion that goes into ngo's. this closes some loopholes.

you essentially have to certify that as an ngo that you are not promoting or funding a portion. if you subcontracted with an entity, they were not covered. is as anrequirement ngo contracting directly with the federal government, you have to certify that your subcontractors will adhere to the same policy. [video clip] >> as before, we will continue to refuse assistance to ngo's who actively promote abortion as a method of family planning. wille also making clear we refuse to provide assistance to foreign ngos to give financial support to other foreign groups in the global abortion industry. we will enforce a strict prohibition on backdoor funding

means that runaround are policy. american taxpayer dollars will not be used to underwrite abortions. host: you met with secretary pompeo just before that announcement. he was just saying we are following through with the commitments made by the president. no one should be surprised by this. this is in the republican party platform. the party platforms are very there was a study looking back on 20-30 years of -- thelatforms republican party 90% of the time adheres to that party platform. the democratic party, about 75% of the time. we see that on this bold

contrast on the issue of life. the democratic party wanting to force taxpayers to fund it. the republican party saying we want a clear line of separation between the two. the administration is following through on that party platform. host: secretary pompeo was talking about the state department's budget and priorities. this is one exchange he had with a democratic congresswoman on friday. [video clip] ofyour new interpretation what was called a gag rule now is harming organizations that are doing general health care, whether it is contraceptive care, hiv, maternal care.

i will give you an example. whichis an organization is the only health provider in mozambique. they have lost funding due to the expansion of the global gag rule. people who500,000 are receiving care for hiv, tuberculosis and malaria. what's happening here is that when we are looking at this $9 billion we spend as a , this actually directs the money to health care. not abortion, not counseling for abortion. -- the vast majority of ngo's are saying not a problem, we want to focus on

health care. we want to beg able to perform abortion. as far as the expansion, this is not an expansion. the policy was already in place. it's just ensuring there aren't organizations that circumvent the stated policy by contracting with someone else to perform the services they are prohibited from doing. host: tony perkins from the family research council. frc.org if you want to check them out. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. line in this segment we will devote to those who worked for ngo's. 202-748-8003 is that number.

ohio.l start with art in line for democrats. go ahead. caller: the bbc had a documentary on abortion in central america. they have the strictest abortion laws in the world. they are sending their children -- the orphanages are full. there are jails, they have females in prison, they interviewed people in prison in guatemala -- 80% of the prison population is a group of women who had questionable miscarriages. children unaccompanied -- why do they want to make it harder for people to have family planning? in thisamily-planning administration does not include abortion. there's other education available.

most of the countries in central and south america are very religious, many of them heavily catholic. they say it is morally repugnant to support abortion. the last administration was in the -- we meddled shaping of the kenyan constitution to make abortion a right. we should not be engaged in forcing countries that have abortion toions to change their policies. nongovernmental organizations that work to shape that constitution and get people to engage in it for this provision of abortion rights. this is not unusual for the previous administration. we found organizations linked to george soros to fund a number of things that were contrary to the

values the vast majority of americans had. line, if youecial have worked at an ngo and want to join this conversation, 202-748-8003. gary in sterling, virginia. a republican. go ahead. caller: good morning. i'm an eisenhower republican. guest: did you grow up in kansas? caller: no, sir. claimower republicans common sense. i worked in a restaurant with 20 immigrants, 20 latinos and 20 asians, they were all immigrants, i was the only american there. wanted them what they and he said the first thing we want is help with birth control. second thing they want is a registered worker program.

amendment,the hyde governor george allen back in the late 1980's had a gag order -- 15 years later, i work in a housing -- i work in a house occupied by a single mother with special needs children. i worked in a neonatal icu -- one spend nine months in an incubator. host: we are listening. bring it to your question. caller: i find all the hyde support -- isne a support puppy mills for pedophiles. ask gary if he

thinks the solution is to support abortion, to end their lives. i don't think that is what the american public wants. the latest poll identified as pro-life -- when it comes to taxpayer funded abortion, 75% of the public do not believe they should be able to underwrite abortion. but is not what this is about. it is not saying a country cannot do it. if a country wants to do it, that is their business, but americans should not be the ones funding that procedure. host: what is the organization of american states? guest: in terms of how they operate, or how they are -- host: when it comes to this issue. guest: i think america is a

leader when it comes to a lot of these national organizations. we can influence what they do. i do not think we should be beholden as a nation when it comes to our policies as to what international organizations do. i want to bring this back to the issue at hand -- it is our tax dollars. it is where the american money is going. our people have consistently said they don't want to be linked to abortion. they might have a different on whether someone chooses it, but they don't want to be ordered to fund it. host: when it comes to the organization of states, that was the announcement mike pompeo made when he was talking about concerns about ngo's and abortion. here is what he had to say. [video clip] secretary pompeo: i directed my team to have agreements that specifically prohibits the use

of funds to lobby for or against abortion. the institutions of the aos -- should be not advancing the pro-abortion cause. our reduction equals the estimated u.s. share of oas expenditures on these abortion-related activities. the american people should rest assured that this administration and this state department, and our usaid will do all we can to safeguard u.s. taxpayer dollars all we can to respect the security of life for people around the globe. host: what he brings up there -- abortion-related lobbying or advocacy? guest: i am not sure about the specifics, but i think that might be related to what i was talking about earlier with kenya. they are getting u.s. dollars,

sometimes without knowledge in the united states, but in the previous administration it was clear evidence it was directed that way. host: about a half-hour left with tony perkins, family research council -- president of the family research council. is next. daytona beach, california. for democrats. go ahead. guest: thank you for taking my call. i have three or four point to make. trump, when he took office, started right away to abolish the johnson doctrine, to erase the separation of church and state. i have a brother that is evangelical. he went to africa from the calvary church as a missionary time the poor women there, the africans, that birth control was not in god's plan. familye thing -- this research council had a

distinguished fellow that belong to your group, general boykin, he is retired now. do you know what he has done because of trump trying to erase the separation of church and state? he was on one of those religious tele-event you go's. he has been appointed as a minister. foras gone to campaign republicans. you people are obscene liars. host: we will let tony perkins respond. guest: well, have another cup of coffee. the reality is when the president was looking at the johnson amendment, it was in 1954, lyndon b. johnson, the head of the senate at the time, had run into opposition in his reelection from nonprofit organizations. what he did, without going through the full senate, was put a restriction into the tax code that restricted churches from speaking to issues deemed

political or into medical campaigns. what the president did was best political campaigns. what the president did was -- medical campaigns. was makepresident did it that churches are free to speak to the issues. it is an issue of free speech. it is not any line. if any line has been crossed, it is the government has entered into the business of the church and telling the charge what they can and cannot say. as regards to general boykin, a restart -- retired three-star general who served 36 years in our nation's military and left blood on a number of battlefields, there is not a greater american hero than he is. to want to deprive him of the freedom to associate with churches and be a minister once he has served his country is appalling. any american that holds the view that someone that has fought and

watched men died to preserve our freedoms does not have the same freedoms, quite frankly, i don't know what country they belong in, but that is not what america is about. host: butler, indiana. guest: i pray for you every day. i worked at a hospital on long island for 20 years in the delivery unit, and i could never get out of my head the times there was a stillborn baby, abb that did not make it. it changed my life profusely. the idea of abortion is a horror. i cannot even comprehend it. the thought that the united states will use taxpayer dollars to fund or mold other countries into slaughtering babies is horrific, and i hope there comes a time in this country where we can look back and say it was

just like slavery -- the most horrible thing that we did. we have to become human beings by loving human beings, and there are millions of human beings that would love to have children that cannot. god bless your work. i hope we someday come to the realization that slaughtering innocent babies is horrific. god bless you. i am going to go cry. i did not want to cry on the phone. guest: i do hope there is a time when we look back, because america has gotten it wrong on a number of issues. we got it wrong on the slavery issue. unfortunately, we corrected -- fortunately, we corrected it. it was unfortunate how we corrected it -- having to go through a civil war. i will say this, we are moving closer and closer, and that is why this intensity has built-in we are moving closer and closer to being a predominantly pro-life nation. more and more states -- bills

like the heart beat bill -- once the heartbeat is detected, that life is protected. these are moving through the states. a nala -- anomalies there. the president coming out boldly say we will have none of that. congress having a discharge position to end what we call birth day abortions. it is a big issue. the reason it is become so contentious -- when the courts said 46 years ago they were going to solve it, they have not solved it because americans have never reached consensus. host: do you think this supreme court with its current makeup will overturn roe v. wade? guest: people say roe v. wade will be overturned -- it was actually modified in 1992. i think it will be revisited again. what will ultimately happen is it will be sent back to the

states and the state will determine what their policies will be one it comes to the issue of abortion. it will not be a blanket -- this is my view -- i am not saying is going to happen. when i see happening, the way the court has operated, whether or not it is this court for one more judicial nominee, i see this going back to the states -- the court not blanket leaf , but saying this is an issue the state should deal with. guest: at least 20 -- casesat least 20 abortion -- which are you most interested in? ofst: i am watching all them. as a former policymaker at the state level i encourage state legislatures to reflect the values of their constituents. you have some states -- kentucky just advanced, i believe, a bill.beat

you have the five-month bill, based on pain, when a baby in the womb feels pain from that point forward, it is prohibited. from that case, maybe they look ofit from the standpoint reevaluating the timeframe. --ing it back to a heartbeat one it is detected, when do we declare someone dead -- when the heart stops. when do we declare them alive -- when the heartbeat begins. if they take up one of those cases, it is more likely that you go back to the fundamental issue of abortion which would be back to the states to decide. host: the washington post article was talking about what is next. guest: i do not know exactly what case will be next before the court. some have speculated. the court can do whatever they want. they can choose to take a case or refuse to take a case.

there have been cases i thought they might take and did not take. it is anyone's guess. you think they would take that they did not -- what were you disappointed about? guest: there was a religious case out of washington state with a football coach. it was a marine veteran coaching high school football who at the end of the game would kneel on the field and pray himself .uietly -- not forcing students the school took action against issues that other they were being forced to do so because the check -- separation of church and state. that case was before the supreme court and it would have been a major religious liberty case and did not take it. they did take the bladensburg-cross case, another major religious liberty case.

you never know what the justices are thinking as they talk about the cases they will take and how far-reaching decisions will be. host: have you been to bladensburg to see the cross? guest: i have not, but seen many pictures and talked to many people involved in the case. host: what do they tell you? guest: this is a cross that has been there almost 100 years. the implications here could be far-reaching. when we look behind you we see the united states capital. all around the city -- this weekend i am leading a tour of the people that came in just to look at the christian heritage in this fair -- city and one of the places we will go is arlington cemetery. i have been to arlington many times. when you look at the crosses on that field, it is reflective of the sacrifices many have made, and also their hope and commitment to a faith. those crosses are potentially at

risk if the decision behind the bladensburg case stands. those crosses could be eradicated. about 15 minutes left. rick -- with about 15 minutes left tony perkins. rick. california. guest: greetings from the people's republic of california. i see abortion is a hot topic now that the republicans have lost the house. can you tell me why the faith hustlers and the gop grifters don't get hot under the collar that the last two budgets they sent to president trump did not rider, andiabortion the six budgets they sent to president obama had antiabortion rider's he and harry reid had to strip out in the middle of the

night before they got signed? guest: ashley, they have stayed in place. the hyde amendment has remained in place. it has been a writer on budgets since harry reid -- i'm sorry, henry hyde put it in place back in the 1970's after he was elected. the issue here on this particular topic is our foreign policy and the restriction that is done by the administration and how they spend the funds. they have the right to do that and that is what they have been doing. i go back, john, to the party platforms. this president, i was in las vegas for the third presidential debate with hillary clinton and donald trump, and he aggressively took on the issue of late-term abortion. he spoke about this with a and a persuasive manner that i have not heard a

.politician" speak about it it is like he just discovered the atrocity of this, and i knew he was not working off talking points. he was speaking from his heart. i was also in the white house the monday night before the state of the union address and the president brought up this issue of what was happening in virginia and new york and spoke with great passion. this president is not pandering. this president is convicted on this issue. reflective of the party platform. the republicans have staked out a position on this abortion issue. --re consists 20 want it constituency wanted overwhelmingly -- we will build this wall between taxpayers and abortion. the democratic party wants to eliminate that. that is new. in their platform, they want to a limited stuff hyde amendment. that is not been there before. host: how much influence do you

think vice president mike pence has had? guest: clearly it has had an impact on his entire journey. this guy was building buildings in new york city dealing with zoning issues. he was not dealing with policy issues like abortion, probably never thought about it. facewhen he came face to about it, it is like someone for the first time discovering something -- how are we doing this. i think he is more passionate than many people in the pro-life movement that have grown weary and callous. i find it refreshing that we have a leader that is so devoted to protecting the sanctity of human life and ensuring that taxpayers are not forced into a with organizations like planned parenthood and other abortion providers. host: florida is next. the public in. caller: thank you for taking my

call. good morning, mr. perkins. i think you for your organization that reaches out for life. i think mr. -- thank mr. trump. life begins at conception. you go to matthew and read about where jesus was conceived by she wasd that very day conceived she went to john the mother, anderson she in herre, john leaped will because he spelt the holy spirit of christ being there. they can gopeople shepherdschapel.com, or go to matthew, chapter one, and see if i cannot -- if i am not telling you the truth. that happened that fairy -- that very day.

life begins at conception. guest: when you see this is not a blob of tissue, but a child -- technology gives us the ability to detect a heartbeat. moved some states have forward with acknowledging that life does in fact begin with conception. i think this is where the court sends it back to the states and the states adopt their policies. i would support, as my home state in indian -- louisiana, where i authored a number of pro-life bills, which is one of if not the most pro-life state in the nation, i support that life does begin at conception and we should protect it from that moment for. host: -- forward.

host: brian in d.c. guest: i have several national and caller: i have -- caller: i have several points i want to make. we have two white men sitting shouldlking about what go on with a woman's body. , he says we don't want to pay for abortions. well, as a tax the -- taxpayer, i don't want to pay for foster care and children that are in orphanages, and those that are born with disabilities, and until these orphanages and foster care organizations are empty with people adopting them -- which they are not, we had millions of kids in there, and you're not doing anything about them. you are really a hypocrite because you don't go out and

adopt these kids -- you leave them in there to languish and suffer, but you tell them we are pro-life. right, you are pro-life. this wouldssue is not be an issue other than the census has said in 10 years white people will not be the majority in this country. brownountry is turning and black and what people are not having kids like they used to. an issue.omes you both sit up there and talk about a woman's body, as if she does not have any say. it is between her and god. it does not have anything to do with you people. you are down there in virginia making women go through all kind of atrocities while they want to have abortions with doctors touching them, reaching inside them, and you don't have anything to say about it. you all are hypocrites. guest: it is a great thing about

america -- we can all have our own opinion, speak to those things, but we don't have our own set of facts. i will start with his last point about the demographics in this country -- yes, when you look at the demographics, you see -- actually it is the hispanic community growing, but if you look at the argument that he is making, in new york city, if you are an african-american child you have a greater chance of being aborted than born. they abort more african-american children in new york than are born. i am protecting the rights of minorities, of hispanics, african-americans, to have the freedom to live. this is not about the white population. tos is a racist statement suggest that because we are protecting african-americans, hispanics, that somehow we are wanting to grow the white population. that is crazy. we fact of a woman's body --

are talking about whether or not you and i should be able -- should be forced to fund the taking of an innocent life that has an effect on the broader culture, the coarsening of moral conscious in this nation, which i believe has led to the devaluing. a woman is free to do what she wants with her body in terms of whether or not she concedes and engages in the act, but when it ofes to me being a part aborting her baby, i have a voice in that matter. caller: i would like to make a comment about foreign policy. i was a diplomat for a country. the previous administration's foreign policy was wrong on so many levels. abortiont spoke about being forced into kenya.

it was like a package in a previous administration -- abortion and gay -- you have to take it and leave it. if a -- [indiscernible] this.d like to reiterate african countries are evolving in those matters. that is what i applaud with this new administration. they are cautious in their approach in foreign countries. thank you very much. remembercannot even the number of ambassadors from foreign countries that i've spoken to over the last decade, particularly in the previous administration, that were telling me they were being forced on the issue of same-sex marriage, of abortion, and that foreign funds were being withheld if they did not kowtow to the administration's exporting of values, which were

valleys at the time that were not in reflected in our own culture. that has long been how the state department has been used, to push a lot of these liberal-leaning, leftist policies into other countries coming through the united nations into the back door, making a full circle here into the united states. host: a couple of minutes left -- i wanted to ask you -- you are talking about president trump's passion and his passion at the campaign rally led to some colorful language that has gotten some feedback. if the democrats will continue fraud in the public with ridiculous b.s., that led to this tweet -- guest: i was actually with david

yesterday. he is a president -- full package. you take the whole package. i'm spoken to a number of pastors and leaders across the country that are uncomfortable with the hard nature of some of his tweets, the statements, the language. host: are you uncomfortable? guest: i would prefer that he not do that. you know, yes -- i don't use that kind of language. i know the president is on a journey. here is what i encourage people to do -- i don't in any way condone that type of language. we want you our leaders those that we can model. the president is doing a really .ood job doing better he is on a journey, and we continue to pray for him and

encourage him on that journey, but i always point back to don't miss the policies, the people he has put in place -- mike pompeo, mike pence, rick perry -- these different individuals that are solid, conservative, respected individuals that uphold these values that helped make america great the first time. this president, from our standpoint in terms of the policy, is doing an outstanding job. we will continue to encourage and pray for him to work on the tweets --two tone them down a bit. have you been pleased with all the people he has picked in his administration -- some have left under the shade of scandal. guest: for the most part, yet -- in the key places we work and focus on, yet. this guy has put together a team that under the circumstance you see every movie has been making has been scrutinized.

you have this russia investigation that has turned out to be nothing and has tried to derail his administration, but he has stayed focused on sunny days. i get him an a plus. peter is waiting to west palm beach. democrat. guest: good morning. i am at in this conversation. i'm 88 years old and i was born at a time when abortion was illegal. on one side of the street there were 1200 boys. on the other side of the street there were 1100 girls. notof the boys were orphans. they were not orphans pay they were abandoned. almost 90%s side, were abandoned children because abortion was illegal. we want to go back where you have people with wires performing abortions, back-allie

abortions, and nobody taking care of thing because abortion is illegal, then you go ahead and put restrictions on legal abortions. you will have the same problem we had when i was a young man, and i lived through it and i don't ever want to see it again. thank you. really get he brought that point up because i did not get to it from the other color. first, i would say i am sure there were those that grew up in that are glades they have a life like him and hopefully are still alive. here is what is happening on the issue of adoption -- there has been a concerted effort from christian organizations and christian groups to work in the adoption field. i have been part of making adoption more affordable and easier. we have changed it to where there are tax benefits, incentives, rebates for adoption. the problem -- the president pointed it out in a national

prayer breakfast, the faith-based groups that are placing kids are being driven out of business, like in michigan, because of this the lgbtwith those in committees that are driving faith-based adoption agencies out of business. they have been shut down in massachusetts, here in d.c. they are speaking out of both sides of their mouth. if they really want to put children in these homes, they should come to an agreement that organization should be able to operate according to their faith, and there are many, many families across this country that are eager, ready, willing, to adopt these children. host: karen has been waiting in weatherford, texas. independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. off before i finished making my point because i have been wanting to make this point for several months. i was raised as a democrat.

my father used to go to washington and lobby. he kind of lost interest in doing that when nixon let him down, but that is a whole other story. i have always been against abortion, and this past year i have found it hard to understand how the democrats can say it is ok to abort a baby, but it is not ok to separate a child from its parent at the border when they are trying to cross illegally. that is a little bit hypocritical their. they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. i am against abortion. i have known of people -- i know this person personally -- i have never done it, i've never been a drug taker. that was not my thing. i would rather go out dancing,

but this person was into drugs heavily, and instead of staying on birth control pills she would use her money for drugs, get pregnant, and then get abortions. she used it as a means of birth control. 15 has had at least 10 abortions. i don't want to pay for that. if there is one doing that, there are several doing that. guest: that goes back to the point the secretary of state made -- we will not fund through nongovernmental organizations abortion as birth control. that is essentially how it is being published and promoted, not only here in domestic policy, the more importantly what we are talking about is in our foreign policy. host: tony perkins is the president of the family research council. always appreciate your time. host: thanks. thanks. host: we will be joined by the president of the sierra club next, liz perera, on a

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c-span2. perera aselcome liz our guest for the first time. she serves as director of common policy at sierra club and they nonstate introduce legislation have the notice states-- have the united rejoin the paris climate agreement. describe what it is. besides -- guest: the science is telling us keptlanet needs to be under 1.5 celsius, and that is what this does -- countries have signed to do this together so that we address the climate crisis. 390 viewers the history of the united states when it comes to that agreement and what this legislation the democrats

introduced this week would do. this legislation -- to put a finer point on it, it is hr 9, 1 of the first big pieces of legislation coming out of the democratic house. the first one was campaign finance reform and democracy, and this is actually defunding the president's efforts to remove us from the paris climate agreement. it is reiterating, reaffirming our commitment as a country to this historic international agreement. host: this is because nancy pelosi at the press conference announcing that legislation this week. [video clip] the climatesi: crisis is a next of financial --eat of our time existential threat of our time. today, the democratic majority is honoring the will of the people and taking the first steps to protect our planet and our future.

the bill -- this is about jobs. good-pain, good, -- green jobs. it is about advancing our economy. it is about health. it is about public health, clean air, clean water for our children. it is about defending our national security. the evidence is clear. experts haverity spoken. this is a national security issue. for many of us, it is a moral issue. in the writeupa, in "the washington post" notes discussedf those he that legislation the words "green new deal" were not mentioned during the half-hour news conference there. does that concern you? guest: not at all. there are numerous proposals democrats are floating. there are many approaches to addressing the climate crisis and we need as many ideas as we can possibly get because we will

need to transform our entire economy which means lots of new, good-paying, family-sustaining jobs, and clean air and clean water for our children. as speaker pelosi said, this is about health, jobs, a better future for our children. host: another headline from the hill this week, "democrats move on from the green new deal." is that what they are doing? host: the green new deal is a visionary resolution -- not a piece of legislation. it is a resolution to put a path to a future where we have green energy and addressing health care. it is about addressing the twin problem of the climate crisis and economic inequality. climates, jobs, and justice for the american people. beis visionary and meant to more of that vision corrupt the

numerous pieces of legislation could move forward. the fact that it is not mentioned is not really consequential. it is an important piece of a lot of the presidential candidates that are moving into the next phase, and they are going to be talking about it. it is an idea. host: since the green new deal was released, we have seen the debate about incrementalism to move toward it, or something as sweeping as the green new deal all at once. do you fall more toward incrementalism side? host: no. -- guest: no. the sierra club is pushing toward a vision of a green economy so we are very much in the visionary camp. we represent members that want to see us protect public land, public land,ir -- clean air, clean water, clean transportation, and stopping inequality. we are very much in the visionary camp. as we know, it is not how

congress works. we need to get down to brass tacks, delivering 100% clean thegy solutions through infrastructure bill, numerous opportunities that will happen in the coming year. there are near-term gains we can make that we should not shy away from them we should get to work and rolled up our sleeves and also keep our eyes on the big vision. liz perera with us until about 9:30 a.m. if you want to join the discussion -- liz perera, as folks are calling in, can you talk more about the sierra club, and did you play any role in the korean and development of the green new deal? guest: the green new deal has been around for a long time. i believe thomas friedman first talked about it. it has been proposed internationally. it is based in the roosevelt new

deal idea. we're coming out of the depression we needed an economic stimulus. that is what this is about, economic stimulus -- building clean energy jobs for our future that deliver family-sustaining wages and basic rights for people -- health care, the right to clean air, clean water. it is very much in the idea of what sierra club has always been working on for our 125-year history. host: were you consulted at all? yes, we were consulted. the resolution was written with lots of stakeholders, actually, including unions, justice groups, and many people were consulted. it really is a vision. had talks about projects. , someks about, really great opportunities with changing the way we make goods cleans country, buy

initiatives, investments in renewable energy, and puts us on a path to clean, renewable energy by mid-century, and pushes us in this near-term, the next 10 years, to really invest in our economy and like the new deal, invest the american people at the same time. what does a climate policy director do at the sierra club? host: yes, i am in those consultations. i talked to members of congress, talk to members across the country. we also talked to a lot of different businesses and people that are committed to delivering clean energy. i do quite a bit. host: we will let you check with a few callers as well. guest: happy too. host: glenn is up first in pottsville, pennsylvania, and independent. caller: good morning. i really appreciate the fact

that you are one of the persons trying to save my are. when you go about your business, please use the term mother earth -- saving mother earth because a lot of people will relate it to that -- "saving mother earth." that is the terminology i want to use. i would love for you to use it as you go about your business. host: why is that so important to you? caller: excuse me? host: why is that so important to you? caller: well, you answer the question, why is it important to say mother earth? host: i mean using the question. caller: because that will save race.u, and all the human

host: thank you for the call. did you want to follow up? host: i -- guest: i am a mother, and personifying the earth that way is important because it is calling upon where the basic values in our country, we protect our planet and we hold all of what our planet delivers us dear. we understand there is no planet i appreciatey, and that. i will use that term more often. host: ohio. dan is a republican. first i would like to say mother earth is not can -- and control of the of. almighty god is in control of the earth. the way it says is the lord is going to return, and a little place calls israel that the world thinks is insignificant, descend fromwill

heaven and fight the armies to destroy. host: do you want to come back to the discussion about climate change? yes, i would like to talk about rachel carson depicting birds being killed, saint ddt was responsible for that. forwas not responsible that. it saved over 500 million lives during the second world war, and that is how the epa got their start. they did a scientific study on it, had a judge and said there was no serious affect with ddt to fish or birds. host: do you think the epa has been a good thing? guest: the epa is a hoax on the american people. al gore, and people like him, cashes inich when he his carbon credits, and this is what it is all about -- they

want to stifle our country. host: danny in ohio. liz perera, i don't know where you want to start, maybe the epa. i want to say i am a religious person, i believe in god, and i am committed to protecting gods creation, this earth. the epa sets up very basic standards with industry and scientists at the table to protect people's health and the environment, protect species -- and that is critical. epa is very balanced in its approach and is a critical agency for our country. host: how do you feel about andrew wheeler? andrew will visit: obvious that we were disappointed to see him nominated. we believe he has done the bidding of a lot of industry at and we don'tpa believe he is following the best public health science when he is creating these standards that

epa is obligated to create. the interior department is looking to get a new secretary. david bernhardt was on capitol hill for his confirmation hearing yesterday. your thoughts on david bernhardt. is an oilid bernhardt lobbyist and during the shutdown he prioritized oil and gas leasing on our public land. he kept approving gas leases in cap that part of the interior department open during the shutdown, which no other previous interior secretary had done so that oil companies can get in and extract oil from public land. we really believe he is selling out our public lands. was -- youe issue he talked about, he was asked about that, oil and gas leasing versus renewable leasing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] david bernhard: i don't think we have named -- i could name a policy will we have not treated -- for example, solar, wind,

equally, fairly. >> can you explain to me what you have done to support cleaner energy, the same as you have done for oil and gas? bernhardt: sure. we have a number of renewable projects in our fast 41 process, next but it'd review. we have also -- expedited review. we have leased offshore wind areas on the east coast. i think we are moving at about the same clip. the process to improvement i just talked about apply to everybody. i'm just honestly not -- happy to look at that and see if the statistics lineup, and if they do, i would love to talk to you about it. our position is not that one project should move faster than another. my position is we should move effectively,er and irrespective of thai. we need to give people an answer

and move on. host: liz perera on that answer. guest: first of all, the national environmental policy act as a critical piece of legislation that passed with bipartisan support and is all about, really, evaluating federal projects and their affect, not only to the environment, but to people as well, and we need to defend that critical piece of legislation. that is the way that people also expressed their concerns about federal projects like oil and gas leasing and developing pipelines. i do think it is important to really scrutinize, and i hope the senator does scrutinize his approaches to renewable -- leasing renewables as well as oil and gas because he has really been prioritizing oil and gas leasing above all. host: in the shot viewers were looking at of david bernhard testifying, it was noted that one of the activists in the background put on a mask of a

swamp monster. it was a greenpeace activists dressed as a swamp monster at that hearing. is that something that sierra club condones -- would you be an activist in that way? is that a good way to get your message across? guest: i think it sends a message. clearly it got coverage, and the isnt they are sending, this the swamp trump said he was not supporting. he is a corporate lobbyist, and he is part of this revolving door -- his bread and butter has really been working for the oil industry. i think it is a good point, and it is something that clearly got coverage. host: has sierra club ever sent activists in the background of congressional hearings? guest: we engage in all kinds of public awareness. i am sure we have at some time. in trumpn is next

hill, virginia. caller: i also swap the swamp monster and thought it was tripping the trump kool-aid. they are running this gas pipeline up and down our throat here and use eminent domain with a private company using eminent domain to take people's land and ,ay it is for the public need which is why they're going to take it and ship it to north carolina. what you think about that? guest: i agree with you. i am very concerned with how the government is using imminent domain and taking people's lands like yours. we are very concerned about the pipelines that are being proposed all across the country. we don't think that is the right way forward. really, the national environmental policy act is a piece of legislation that is there to protect you and allow you to be represented in this process of these federal decisions.

mipawhen they talk about and cutting red tape -- red tape, the number, they are trying to cut you out of the process and cut your voice out of the process. we have to defend the law and work with members like you. thank you very much. host: clayton, louisiana. ben, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i have been studying this for a long time. a long time ago they came out with a thing called coldfusion. i watched a man cut a piece of metal with water. i have also studied about patents that are sealed in washington that will actually open up electricity in water. why don't you study may be releasing some of those patents into the people that study these things because -- like with

tesla, he came out with a car where every person could have -- coil where every person could have free electricity. i have made the coil and it works. these things work. i have done the saltwater test. it will burn a light. host: coldfusion. guest: it is one of these pieces of innovation that we do not know what it holds. we need to be investing in research and developing for numerous types of innovation. , and theirs dedicated to solar and wind, which are free, once you build the infrastructure to collect them. i think there is a real possibility here, and we don't know what innovation holds for us in the future. if we set our sights on a vision of clean, renewable energy, i think we will succeed. weston, virginia.

alex, a democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. i had a question about the green new deal. i am curious how you view the strategy behind marion a lot of our environmental goals with, sort of, more social justice and traditional left-wing goals like minimum wage, and other things that would provide more equity, even though all those things are incredibly important and i am fully supportive of that, but i do imagine it would make the already arduous task of basically getting any republican to side onto these things even harder. i am curious how you view that as we move forward and the green new deal starts to get developed and hopefully implemented. host: alex, thanks for the call. guest: thank you. yes. address the climate crisis and tackle economic inequality at the same time and that is because our energy

system has not delivered quality, family-sustaining jobs to the american people. airas not protected peoples and water. we feel like we need to partner with frontline communities -- the communities that have been hit hardest by climate change impact that are the most in need of economic stimulus to really deliver a clean energy economy that is equitable and just. we are talking about people and planet together here. it is possible to create an economy that is not just. we need to work as hard as we can to set ourselves on that pathway. i think it is important to recognize there will be lots of types of legislation that are worth -- moving under the banner of green new deal, which is a visionary resolution. we will be doing this in different pieces of legislation. we don't have to do it all at once. we do want to set our sights on that goal. host: do you have a goal of one

we can get into full implementation? host: of the green new -- --st: of the green new deal i believe 2020 is when it was laid out of a proposal on the table and they would come up with pieces of legislation that fall under that proposal. it is important to recognize we have numerous committees that handle things like health care and family-sustaining wages for people and also handle things like our public lands, energy and environment. these are separate committees that will be taking up different types of legislation. it will need to be a group effort on capitol hill. on twitter, back to the discussion of eminent domain -- how much land by eminent domain will be necessary for wind and solar farms to meet the needs of the population? guest: i don't know the answer to that, but eminent domain is really something mostly used

when you talk about pipelines. with solar and wind development, there is a lot more possibility of using the land in addition to doing agriculture, and other means. we have a lot more flexibility when looking at wind and solar. there are different holes that will be used. christopher is in new york, a republican. good morning. caller: this seems to all go warmingal gore global and since that did not pan out and the earth has gone cold, they had to call it climate change. i was just curious, what are do next because the climate has always changed since the beginning of time. i was just curious if that is a type of tax plan they will propose in the future to get more money out of us. guest: sure.

as to climate change, the majority of scientists -- 99.9% all over the world come all over the country agree that the worth has -- earth has warmed. glaciers are melting. go to glacier national park if you don't believe me. that glacier is almost gone. it is not coming back. there are numerous footprints all over the country of how climate change is hurting us -- record-breaking floods, wildfires, hurricanes -- you have seen it the past year. we are spending billions of dollars dealing with climate impact. i can myself -- my father is from a little town in western iowa affected by the floods. rolling out ina a disaster. we are spending billions of dollars every year to climate impacts. we don't need to talk about the science anymore. it is not that -- 10 years from

now. it is happening right now. because the earth has warmed and we have put weather on steroids. how do you feel about the term climate of alarmism? i think it is unfounded. when you see people in our country suffering the way they are now -- the livelihoods of ranchers livelihood suffering from not only drought, but record-breaking floods, huge swaths of the west destroyed by wildfires -- this is a crisis. we need a government that is going to commit itself to a plan. the democrats have a plan. mccubbins at this point don't have a plan. that republicans at this point don't have a plan. what about the ticking clock -- that we have until this year to fix this problem -- this is an article that talks about the deadlines and they go back to a united nations official in 1989. the associated press reporting

in 1989 that a senior official said entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels of the global warming trend is not the year 2000. guest: the trend being reversed his not having it all salt by the year 2000. you can go to a government website and see how much the seas have risen. will create huge economic impact to our cities, coastal areas, all coastal properties. we clearly have those impacts to and exactly the warming and for the carbon pollution that has caused that. we are much more specific now and the science is much more clear that we have to reduce warming to 1.5 degrees celsius. host: here is a bucket in a lot of attention -- "the uninhabitable earth, life after

warming. i know you are familiar. can you describe it for viewers? guest:when we think about our children's future, i have a child born in 2010 and if you look at 2050, we need to be off of fossil fuels and net zero with 100% clean energy. we need to think about what will happen if we do not do that because we will see the sea level rise and increased climate attacks, extreme weather take a massive toll on our economy. it is critically important that we think about what that world will be like for our children. host: sandy in youngstown ohio, independent. panels, yout solar are in these huge areas of land

to even get a small amount of energy, they do not give much energy, what are people in the cold states with cold winters, are we going to freeze to death because we do not get sunshine or wind? even in the summer, we do not get the sunshine or wind. andt: northern countries denmark and norway have made a huge commitment in solar and wind and are leading the way. it is normal to think that i live in a cold climate, how will i get sunshine but you do get sunshine and solar panels are becoming much more efficient and more cost-effective. they are much cheaper than fossil resources and storage is also an important component, the prices are dropping and you do get a lot of sunshine and wind.

there is a lot of opportunity to power your homes. host: denver, colorado, dave, democrat. caller: this is dave in denver. host: you are on with liz perera . caller: i am glad to see that c-span is evolving. 10 years ago if you mentioned climate change, they would hang up on you. at least we are discussing it. there is a little girl in switzerland who is named greta and she gave a speech about climate change. i was wondering if c-span could put her speech on. it was talking about how the adults here are mature enough to -- notnd we have left mature enough to do it so we have left the burden on the children. it is a wonderful speech. why are the children in europe so activism against climate change and in america we have no

-- we just have people against it like your last guest, the only people believe climate change is not real by the people who believe the world is 6000 years old. guest: i am a huge fan of greta. i do think that we need to -- the youth in our country and across the world are on incredible moral compass for our community and we need to listen to the youth. greta is part of a huge movement of young people and there is a lawsuit that young people across the country are actually suing the government because their future is at stake. the sunrise movement, the incredible movement of our youth, has made a huge difference on capitol hill, pushing the green new deal and for climate action. we have to remember that this is their future at stake and i

agree with you, her speech is moving. host: what about the viral interaction between senator feinstein and some younger environmental activists in her office on capitol hill? guest: i thought it was constructive, great to see the young activists really speaking their minds and it was inspiring to the young activists. i have an almost middle school child and it is great to see them exercising their civic duty and senator feinstein said she is committed to climate change action, she was debating some of the real-life issues of how to pay for it and make it happen. she is ready to do something on climate change and showing she is ready to pay for it and think about all these things. i thought it was constructive. the democrats in the senate the past week, including her, have continued to move forward with a plan, they are not succumbing to mitch mcconnell's climate denial

and the stunt this week. host: why do you call it a stunt? guest: because he knew this is a resolution, he was bringing it up just about it down. he is listening to the fossil fuel industry that has funded his campaign four years. -- for years. he had no intention of having a conversation about pollution and climate change. host: four democrats joined republicans in voting no on that resolution this week. joe manchin from west virginia, jones of alabama, kyrsten sinema and angus king of maine. the rest of the democrats voted presence -- present. your thoughts on the democrats who vote no? guest: i think they have proposals on climate change and i think they are open to having conversations, we have had good

conversations with those offices. has have -- arizona incredible resources in solar and wind. i think the people of arizona are looking to the senator to actually represent them in their real interest and there is a huge opportunity, and a huge opportunity in west virginia and alabama and we will work with them as they have ideas on climate solutions. host: are the republicans you are working with in the sierra club? guest: yes, numerous republicans in the house and senate. mitt romney, numerous republicans like fitzpatrick in the house. this has to be a bipartisan solution. there are a lot of republicans that do want to roll up their sleeves and talk about solutions and they know there is economic possibilities. host: how far has mitt romney told you he is willing to go? he voted no on the green new deal. guest: he has not specifically

talked about how far he will go. he has technologies we need to do something on the climate crisis and he is ready to talk about the climate crisis. that is as much as i know. host: arnold in tennessee, democrats. caller: good morning, how are you doing? host: go ahead. caller: i wanted to ask if you have ever heard of a man by the name of joe holden? host: who is that? caller: according to the internet, and he is all over the internet and youtube, he was the inventor of the astro burner for jets. he was a jet pilot during the korean war. foras the lead engineer rolls-royce jet engines. he has some inventions you can

see on youtube that he claims will change things. it is just being ignored. i am assuming it is true because there is too much about his life for it to all be a big lie. host: did you want to follow up? guest: i have not heard about him but i will google him when i get back to my desk. there are plenty of technological innovations that we need to be entertainment -- entertaining. republican, go, ahead. caller: 27 years in the wastewater industry, the department of natural resources in the state of ohio calculated that one billion gallons of water per day is sucked out of the ground, this is measured, and put into lake erie and the ohio river. why couldn't they take some of that water, not just from ohio

and pennsylvania and west virginia, and all of these dates that go into the mississippi, run it through the railroad lines, out to the southwest, and irrigate the southwest to cool it down in the summers and open of the land? they said that the deserts in the world have increased one meter per year, that is not much, one meter a year for all the deserts in the world but you could decrease that. guest: that is an interesting idea. i think we need to be careful about the way we use water in the country. climate change is impacting our water resources, having lots of droughts and flooding. it is critical we look at that when we think about how we manage our drinking water and wastewater.

and look at the impact climate change is having. caller: david in michigan, independent -- host: david in michigan come independent. caller: with all of the propaganda from the deniers, what would you -- what would -- would you consider a politician ao use the green new deal as platform to energize people who do not believe it and vote against anyone not supporting the green new deal in favor of somebody who would enact policies contrary to what you are trying to accomplish? guest: i think that we need to have a conversation across the statehousesin many they are talking about the possibility of moving to 100% clean energy. it is very critical that we talk about those possibilities, we look at how we will build an equitable economy, and we are

frank with people about the incredible projects that are happening across the country, to build solar and wind, energy practical andd be serious about what kind of projects we would like to fund. host: does the sierra club endorse in presidential elections? guest: yes, sometimes we do and sometimes we do not. host: this time around on the democratic side? guest: we have a very democratic process to do that and there is no -- we are just starting our process and we talk to the candidates about what they stand ,or in terms of the environment environmental protection, protecting public lands, going to clean energy, and then we of i wait how they do that and work -- and we evaluate how we do that and we work with our members, if you are a member, thank you, you pay my salary. and we work with our democratic process to find a person we

would like to endorse. sometimes we do not endorse, there are so many great candidates we are supportive to a lot of what they stand for. host: has the sierra club said how much they will spend any 2020 elections? guest: not yet. host: ballpark, tens of millions of dollars? guest: i cannot speak to that as i am not on that side of the board. i work on our c3 side. our political director could speak on that. host: we will have that person on down the road. san diego, california, republican, lloyd. caller: last year i drove from washington state to florida and i was surprised by the number of wind farms in missouri. i had another chance to drive from this spring or winter from florida to california.

by whattally surprised i saw in sweetwater, texas, thousands of turbines and a technical school that was -- companies advertising wind turbine technicians on billboards. this is not just hundreds of wind turbines in sweetwater, texas, thousands. it is astounding what is happening in the united states. guest: i couldn't agree more. are justke texas leading the way on renewables and building wind and solar. it is putting people to work. that is what is so exciting about this clean energy revelation, people are getting put to work and our water and air are being cleaned up at the same time. host: pennsylvania, randy,

democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i have an analogy for your guests, when you look at the north pole, the south pole, and lifequator, what you find thriving, very hot or very cold? is the greenhouse cold or hot? the greenhouse thrives. not an icehouse. thank you. host: i will give you the final minute. guest: there is -- we cannot warm the earth beyond what we have seen in history or this will cause what we are seeing now, huge imbalances, we have weather patterns on steroids with huge hurricanes and floods and wildfires. we see glacier national park not being able to be called glacier

national park anymore because there are no glaciers. we need to address the problems, this is a crisis but also a huge opportunity and we heard from the previous caller, there are many clean energy jobs that can he created and it holds future promise. host: liz perera is the climate policy director of the sierra club. thank you for your time. guest: thank you. host: next, after another busy week on capitol hill, the final 45 minutes of the friday program talking to you about your top story of the week in washington. phone lines are on your screen, democrats, republicans, independents can start calling in and we will be right back. ♪ >> get to know the freshmen members of congress monday on washington journal, learn more about the most diverse group of lawmakers in history.

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what most interested you. democrats call 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. the phone lines are yours for the last 45 minutes today. suzanne in kansas city, missouri. good morning. caller: i wanted to stay to the whole american people, nothing works unless we go back to the original constitution. thank you for listening. host: jim in pennsylvania, republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. the major story this week was the fact that the deniers and people said there was collusion between donald trump and the russians, they have been proven wrong, particularly those in congress who said they had proved there was collusion between the president and russia. that is the major story of this weekend of the year. and possibly be decade. talked about whether

there should be some sort of media reckoning in the wake of this. the mueller reports and the summary by the attorney general. what do you think? caller: i do not think there will be a reckoning. ande people on the left particularly with msnbc and cnn and all others have stated their program based on the fact that russia and donald trump were colluding and now that it is gone i do not think they have any other things but they will certainly not apologize. host: the president had plenty to say on that subject last night at his campaign rally in michigan. the crazytrump: attempt by the democrat party and the fake news media right back there. [boos] president trump: and the deep state to overturn the results of ,he 2016 election have failed

the greatest election we have had in a long time, maybe since the beginning. [chairs and applause] trump! trump! trump! applause]d trump: this was nothing more than a sinister effort to undermine our historic election victory and to sabotage the will of the american people. this is the one we want. we want us and that is what we got. [cheers and applause] trump: we came from all over to vote and they are never taking it away from us.

across thet political that was meant, the corrupt media, it has never been more corrupt than it is today. [boos] trump: that is why they tried to do everything .ossible to take us out but we are very tough to take out, aren't we? host: that was the president yesterday in michigan. on capitol hill, efforts continue by democrats to get access to the full robert mueller report which is over 300 pages. we saw a four-page summary on sunday of this week. nancy pelosi yesterday at her weekly press conference talk about the continued efforts to get the full report and some thoughts on that summary. no, thank you,

mr. attorney general, we do not need your interpretation, show us the report. so we can draw our own conclusions. we do not you to interpret it for us, it was condescending and arrogant and was not the right thing to do. the sooner they can give us the information, the sooner we can make a judgment about it. again, somebody thought i was joking when i said that, i am deadly serious, if a foreign government comes to you and says they have information on your opponent, any member of congress or person, you take that to the fbi. for this report to say that cooperation,tacit if they did not bring the information to the fbi, they were delinquent. and --

host: that was nancy pelosi yesterday and we are asking you what your top news story of the week was. sarah in new hampshire, independent. caller: good morning. i believe that attorney barr should recuse himself, he wrote four times as many pages before he saw the mueller reports then he did after. got $6 $26 million, we million per page, about three e.r.a.phs full of a -- had an opinion, he is an attorney who needs to recuse himself from the whole thing. the american people pay for and deserve to see every page of the report. patrioticerican, i am , i believe in this country and donald trump only believes in money. ill in mobile, alabama, republican, good morning. caller: good morning.

inis often said that people order to understand things have to be in a position to understand them, the famous story about eddie vanderbilt who was asked to write this story about a poor family and the thinkfamily was poor, i the way to get nancy pelosi and the folks in california to understand the border issue, because school is almost out, to get the u.s. to commandeer school buses and gather people when they come across the border, have a caravan going to straight to san francisco, designate san francisco asked the city to handle all immigration cases, set up a court room, and give everybody a number and let them out on the streets of san francisco and let san francisco understand the issue. loadsk about 2000 bus

should give them something to think about. thank you. host: birmingham, alabama, democrat, gwynn. caller: this person from alabama has a different perspective from the one from mobile. california already has more hispanics than texas or any other state. that was ignorant what he just said. week is that,e the call from new hampshire, we asked the american people need to see the report. barr did that for political purposes because he is trying to shield president trump but we need to see the full report and need to know everything that went on. no one is done out of the sky. our democracy was interfered with. russia interfered with our democracy and we need to know

what went on. i wish the american public and the news media would wake up because out of this ignorance that donald trump, i am a grown woman, adults need to wake up. this is high school stuff. calling adam schiff pencil neck. what does that do for anybody in america? we are worrying about our health care and how to feed our children, get clean drinking water. i will be very honest. donald trump, as a black woman president is as a a disgrace in america and i say this and i mean it from the bottom of my heart, he is a total disgrace. goodbye. host: you talk about the full robert mueller report, we found out it is more than 300 pages,

the attorney general indicating that it would take weeks to redact the report of classified information and grand jury information the department deems unfit for public consumption. file it seems before we get access to the full report. your comments about adam schiff and republicans calling him to step down from his post as the chairman of the intelligence committee in the wake of his comments about the mueller investigation the past 22 months. evan nuñez, now the rent -- devin nunes, signing a letter with other republicans calling on adam schiff to step down, and the president having words about adam schiff yesterday at his campaign rally. nancy pelosi defending her house intelligence committee chairman. here is what she had to say. what would be:

the proper adjective, shameful, said come irresponsible, of the president of united -- sad, irresponsible, of the president of united states to take the actions they have. they are afraid. they are afraid of the truth. they are afraid of a leader who is recognized in our country for professional, patriotic, i am so proud of the work of chairman adam schiff. in stark contrast to the irresponsible and criminal behavior of the previous chair of the committee. what is the president afraid of? is he afraid of the truth that he would go after the chair of a committee, the respective chair of a committee and the congress? they are scary cat's and do not know what to do so they have to make an attack.

they did the wrong thing. the american people know that. it is their own insecurity. it is their own fear of the truth and facts and a fear of an effective and patriotic leader in his measured way. we will make sure the american people know the truth. host: you can see those all comments or the back and forth in the house intelligence committee over the calls for adam schiff to step down, you can do so at our website, c-span.org. wade and south carolina, independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to say that as far as collusion goes, it has been nothing more than bovine scat. thealso in the news, how obamas and kamala harris influence the district attorney in chicago to drop all charges

against jussie smollett. we all know he was guilty. i would like to send a message to the president that he may ought to threaten to open the gas reserves because they are working on gas pipes to get gas before he is related to try to get him from being elected. pay attention, president and do what clinton did, open the reserves. host: what do you think about president trump on the jussie smollett case and what he said about prosecutorial decisions in chicago? caller: it was wrong. the influence to the district attorney should not have been and was brought on by the democrats. i hope it is investigated and i

hope she is terminated from her position, because i think she should be. host: this is michael in san diego, california, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to make a couple of comments about bone spurs and talk about puerto rico. , thew of a german citizen first time they saw donald trump on television, they said, just like hitler's. everybody in the united states to think about, if our what act liket our 45th president, we would not have had a second president because citizens would not have stood for it. puerto rico, this man is an idiot and he does not realize the power of a nuclear carrier task force, he could have it coming to puerto rico behind the

storm, fresh water for the entire island, power for the entire island. they have no medical facilities or freshwater. they did not need paper towels, they needed power. and peopleargo ships would not have had 3000 deaths after the hurricane. host: you are calling in on our line for republicans. fewer: i am one of the republicans in the united states that can see the emperor has no clothes on. george conway. host: are you hoping a republican runs against primary? trump any caller: no. i am a republican that can see -- i voted for hillary clinton even though i felt hypocritical because i never liked her.

this man should not have the nuclear codes. maryland,die in democrat, good morning. caller: good morning. i am upset this morning. as a young black man and a democrat, i call on every young to moven or young man away from the democratic party. i am done. we all believed that robert mueller was the man who would tell the truth. , i amhing comes out calling for the report to be public. anybody asking for the whole report is a liar, it cannot be done because of national they cannotcause publish all of the report. brainwashing us, they are trying to make us think that something was going wrong.

it is terrible. to say something about jussie lessont, what is the chicago is giving two young black people? this is getting out of control and our children will pay a heavy price for that. walkaway. host: on your first point, we spent time in the first segment talking about the media reckoning that has taken place this week in the wake of the summary of the mueller reports being released. and some of the ink spilled on that topic from various parts of the media. a comet by -- a column by show i can send in the hill -- sheryl atkinson in the hill, and investigative journalist and author, she says whatever flaws and accusations and speculations

that shrouded the presidency, even before it began, has been proven unfounded, just as trump said all along yet each time he said so, some of us can immediately improve them, we treated any worse he spoke as if they were automatically to be this believed because he and uttered them. somebody declared his words lies with no evidence to back up their claims. in the hill newspaper, if you want to read it. ed is in portland, tennessee, independent. caller: you are the original instagram with your call-in sessions. good morning, america. -- keep ins tell mind, sean hannity is a commentator. he is worth $90 million per year. you talk about the elites. somebody who is worth $90 million, donald trump is with $2

billion with all the loans from deutsche bank. they are not helping us, the people in tennessee, kentucky, they are after the money. carlin brought it up best in a joke, they take the up -- the upper class takes the middle-class and has us fight against each other, going down to the lower class people, economically, and they skim off the top of the financial feelings, just like the tax -- went to the top 1%, that is like having a pizza party with 100 pizzas for 100 people in the first walks in and take 83 and 17 are left for the rest of us. you need to realize, anytime something bad is going on with the dirty don, and sean hannity

is bashing the democrats, because the truth is out there and they do not want to going anywhere else. host: we were just talking about the media reckoning that has taken place this week. do you think there needs to be a reckoning over what happened the past 22 months? caller: this reckoning started with the gulf war when george w. bush said you are with us or you're with the terrorists. that started the hate somebody program, just like with libya, muammar qaddafi, we hated them, therussians, i watched thing on fox news about dick cheney and donald rumsfeld, they were warmongers who wanted to build the military, dick cheney was reagan's defense secretary. he gets put into the vice president's position. he took the real estate -- i am sorry, the railroad pension

wipedand halliburton and them out for the railroad people. and made them sell their stocks for pennies on the dollar's and sold them for $12 a share the following year. the republicans do not do anything for the middle-class. they make you perceive they are but they do not. host: one more column on this idea of media reckoning from margaret sullivan in the washington post. she wrote, i reckon that american citizens would have been far better off if good reporters had not dug into the connection between donald trump's associates up to and including his son will -- his son don jr. and the russians, that reporting was not invalidated, i reckon reporting by the washington post and new york times and wall street journal and breast-feed and cnn and bloomberg news, mother jones, and others grow forward a national conversation that needed to happen, as american

software their own eyes donald trump's efforts to ingratiate himself with the russian president, that reporting matter and provided context. getting your thoughts this morning as we talk about your top news stories of the week after another very busy week in washington. john is in new hampshire, independent. no ahead. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i appreciate it. a couple of things, first and foremost, anytime a special counsel has ever conducted and concluded a report, in this country, going back from watergate, iran-contra, the forth, scandal, and so it has immediately gone to congress, not to the attorney general's office. barr's line, the first line or he said there is

no coercion, that comes from a paragraph. it does not come from his own words. the part where it states that he is not exonerated, for the thatuction of justice, report should have immediately gone to congress, the intelligence committee could then henceforth take out anything to be taken out from the specialized prosecutors thece, whether it be from what have you, i forget. host: this was the line you were referring to from the attorney conclusion on the mueller reports saying the special counsel's investigation did not find the donald trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with russia in a separate to influence the election -- in its effort to influence the election. on obstruction of justice, the

attorney general wrote that the deputy attorney general rob rosen signed and i have concluded the evidence developed during the investigation are not sufficient to establish that the president committed and instruction of justice offense -- committed and obstruction of justice offense. it is over 300 pages, the full report, expected to be possibly weeks before it is redacted and made public. nate is in alexandria, virginia, a democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to talk about the report, a huge news story. everyone has been talking about this, it shows there was no coercion or whatnot. it says that there is no crime collusion, it is conspiracy and conspiracy is a hard crime to prove their what the special counsel is saying is that they have no beyond a reasonable doubt prosecutorial

evidence-based prove. i think we all need to keep in mind that that is what this is saying, it is not saying there has been no delinquency. i think the fact that they investigation into the trump foundation from the southern district of new york and in washington, d.c. and all of these other investigations, we should also be talking about the -- ithat this is not seems that the president is mired in these ethical and possibly legal issues. do we really want this to be representative of us as a country? greg in huntsville, alabama, republican. what is your story of the week? caller: the mueller report was the top story in my opinion. it seems we are losing the forest through the trees.

what we have seen in the report is that, it is a luminary, -- it is preliminary, it has not been released but it will be, we are putting undue burden on the attorney general to say get the report but the grand jury testimony is important and you have to protect the grand jury testimony. congress and nancy pelosi think the american people are so naïve and that they do not understand the truth. if congress wants any of this testimony that is redacted, they can call any witnesses to congress and ask them the same questions. they have what is behind the redacted parts of the report, they have to do their due diligence and have any answer they want. do not point fingers at people abiding by the law. congress can get the answers if they want to get the answers but they have to do their due diligence.

they just come on tv instead and take their shot that the president and continue to play dirty politics, which is speed and hate for the last two years. it is time to move on, if they want more testimony, call them and ask them the questions host: more on the release of the full mueller report from earlier this week, this is lindsey graham. what is next i hope we will come to a committee and release as much as possible of the robert mueller report, the grand jury information is prohibited by law from being released because it would compromise the grand jury process. he in his letter to me and senator feinstein and others said he is asking the special counsel team to help him with the information that may be covered by the grand jury statute. classified information, i do not know how much if any, that will

be these -- that will be something to think about. if the administration claims executive privilege about anything in the report, that would be something i am sure he would consider and we will find out the determinations. those are the broad outlines of the limitations of sharing the information with the public. host: senator lindsey graham earlier this week. it is 9:45 on the east coast. the house will be in for a brief will form a session at 2:30 eastern today and the senate is a way until monday and they're expected to do the next monday afternoon at 3:00 p.m.. we are talking about your top news story of the week over a very busy week in washington. rich, what was your top story, from wisconsin? caller: i live in paul ryan's district. he chose not to run again.

this is the counterintelligence coup, the obama administration, with brennan and clapper, they put it into the media in a circle firing squad with these clowns, to pull one over on the american public. they have been soiling this man's name. i was not a supporter of his at the beginning but i would vote for him in a heartbeat. he has done nothing but put these people in place. this is ridiculous. i do not know what people are watching. let's declassify the originating theyents for the fisa, should have no concern with that being released, that is a domestic issue. it is hilarious. you have james clapper on cnn throw barack obama under the bus, that got no coverage at all. presidentll on the

colluded with the russians, he had a conversation in helsinki, yes, he had a conversation, he got data on clinton and obama. he was not supposed to win. they do not cover any of their dirt. they sold uranium to our enemy. why are you selling such a strategic element to them. host: you just saw lindsey graham calling for investigations into the origins of the government's probe of the trunk campaign, calling for a second special counsel to look into that matter and said he would want james comey to answer questions in the judiciary committee and rand paul has also called for an investigation of former administration -- obama administration officials who concocted and spread the russian conspiracy hoax, according to

the washington times. philadelphia, democrat line, go ahead. caller: yes, i wanted to mention case,he jussie smollett that was very important for me because it really sad in the me, the outrage -- saddened me, the outrage over charges in a case where somebody, although he did falsify a report, the only person harmed physically was himself and i would love to see that level of outrage for the many black, brown, and mentally challenged people that are orled or murdered by bad so-called terrified police officer's, not to say that we do not need, we definitely need police officers, but if there is a bad apple, an officer who does a crime, they should be held liable.

very often we do not see that. insee that level of outrage the case of somebody who falsify a police report versus somebody losing their life at the hands of officers, again, that that , or peoplead actors who are just not good at being police officers and who should lose their job. that was very distressing. host: can i follow up on that point? what do you say to those who express outrage and concern that this case may make the next person who reports a hate crime likely to be believed? caller: it already has happened. we have seen that with tamir officers who may ,ave a history of racist views who murder people, who are not charged. there is already a precedent for

the happening. that is nothing new. this is another case of it. host: this is russell in hollywood, florida, independent. caller: good morning. i am a vietnam veteran and how many people remember nikita khrushchev, the predecessor of vladimir putin when president kennedy was president. in the united nations, at the podium he said the soviet union what very the united states from ury the very -- would b united states from within, we will tear each other apart. we need to get together as americans and united we stand and divided we shall fall. wake up. this is doing us so much destruction to our country, this is putting into operation what he predicted, 50 years ago in this country, our own country

stated that. host: how would you propose we become more united? caller: stop perpetuating allegations, allegations are not an automatic crime. people take allegations as though they are facts. situations but allegation is not a fact. allegation is a thought. of a potential crime or a potential violation. we take allegations though they are facts. we have talking heads on both sides who make millions of dollars a year to stir it up. we need to stop this. we are playing to the hands of our enemies. we are destroying egypt are. -- we are destroying each other like a dysfunctional marriage.

understand allegations are nothing but allegations. they are not worthy of all of this activity they receive on these talking heads. millions of dollars on both sides. host: wayne is in mississippi, republican. go ahead. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: i would like to make a comment on the people that give donald trump all of this headache about the emoluments clause and all of this other job,, he took a temporary he has a life after the presidency and he is a powerful man. the one thing i did want to say is to quote from thomas jefferson that have stuck with all my life, "free men are not equal, equal men are not free."

thank you. host: a few minutes left in today's program. i wanted to update you on one story we have talked about in this segment, the immigration issue. , story on that from abc news homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen has asked for immediate action from congress to address a dire situation at the border, including authority to immediately deport unaccompanied minors back to their home country and she says she wants the legal authority to detain undocumented migrant families together, including young children together until their claims are processed. whether thensure christ at the board -- crisis at the border or it's a national emergency. paul in south point, ohio, democrat. caller: how are you doing this morning?

thank you for taking my call. i was republican for two decades and the area i am in is thick with republicans. but after the donald trump got in office, we know who this man conflict andays in involved with racial situations. if you look at these rallies, they are full of these white people, america is diverse, i am a white american, i do not understand it, i do not hate other people because of the color of their skin and i do not understand why anybody would want a man running this country who admitted on tape, you could hear him, of being a pervert. he grabs women by their private because he is the boss and he can get away with it. i do not understand it, why would we want such a to generate running our country -- a good generator running our country -- a degenerate running our country?

tvis a big mouth, he gets on , he weaponize's politics, he defames the media, you are excellent, the media does their job, they report what is news and we need the media. he gets up and says the media is the enemy of the people. the peoplee enemy of and he needs to pack his bags and go back to russia. host: some tweets about the president's upcoming schedule, a washington reporter spent -- announced the president will welcome the president of egypt to the white house a full night of -- april 9 and a white house update on u.s. trade talks with china, this from steve holland, progress during a candid and constructive discussion on the negotiations an important next steps.

with the vice premier and the chinese delegations coming to washington next week. some updates from the white house. steve holland covering the white house from reuters. don in pencil -- vaugn in pennsylvania, democrat. caller: in response to the previous caller, he seems to be defending the all knowing media but take a quick look and understand who your medias. for stephanopoulos, abc, clinton hack, democrat party hack. nbc, het chuck on cannot wait to get his diatribe from democrat talking points. after the robert mueller report was supposed to come out, it seems to me that the media line was to look at all the people around dollar drop that got invited -- around donald trump that got invited, he must be guilty. if you will use that logic,

let's go back and look at dan rather from cbs who was caught lying about george w. bush, let's talk about cbs'les moonves as who left in disgrace and his wife on the talkshow, the man hating talkshow, but she has rose,- get about charlie he would nothing -- do nothing but tell the truth, he is gone. if it will be trusting the president of the united states or the media fake news, i am with the president all the way. smash the rats. trump. host: diane, pennsylvania, democrat. caller: the previous caller, i do not agree with. president trump and the republicans that are backing him up are causing major problems for the everyday person in every

way they possibly can. the media brings that out. if they are wrong in some respects, they apologize where they have gotten something wrong. everybody is human and they make mistakes but the purpose of the media is to bring to the people what is going on -- what is going for them and what is going against them. president trump has always been about money, about money in his pocket and the pocket of the rich and the american people should know that. host: do you think the media is good at making apologies and where are the apologies you point to? caller: i have heard many times that i am sorry i got this wrong. they are human. they get things wrong and bring out the truth to the best of their ability. in every organization, there are problem people. and they do not -- you have to

mediate like wikileaks and others of that nature, that is a different ballgame but i am talking about the everyday, news, they tried to get their facts straight. president trump has a problem with money, that is his whole life. and the republicans backing him up are the same. if we see what is being done in this country, every day, they tried to take health care away, her senior citizens, clean air, they are not trying to make things better, they are trying to farm the basic american people except for the top 1%. host: our last caller of the day . we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern at 4:00 am pacific but in the meantime have a great friday. ♪

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