of the recent elections in israel. tuesday at 7 p.m. eastern on c-span -- live coverage from george washington's home, mount vernon, talking about c-span's new book the presidents." saturday at 2:30 p.m., book tv has live coverage from the newseum. they are talking about the presidents, noted historians rank america's best and worst chief executives. presidential leadership, tuesday at seven p.m. eastern on c-span from mount vernon and saturday at 2:30 p.m. eastern on c-span two from the newseum. >> next, "washington journal" devotes the entire program to the release of the miller report.

we will talk with members of congress and we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. "washington journal" is next. cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ host: that was the attorney general william barr in the lead up to the release of the mother bang report report. mueller we will take your comment on the release of the report -- the release of the report. if you want to read our report,

you can do so at c-span.org and you can see more from the attorney general and what he had to say and house democrats as they report -- comment on the report. for the next three hours, we want to hear from you. here is how you can do so. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. and independents, 202-748-8002. you can post on our twitter feed @cspanwj and you can make comments on our facebook page at facebook.com/cspan. if you were to take all the pages of the mueller report and lay them face-to-face, you would have what the new york times reproduced in their section, all those pages face-to-face. you can see the darkened out, redacted version as that has been the topic of discussion concerning this report, especially members of congress as they face an unredacted

version. we will show you more of the comments. reaction from the president and house democrats. if you want to make comments about the report, maybe you have read it, taken a look at it, 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. .n independents, 202-748-8002 currently plenty of reaction from this report in the washington, d.c. metro area. plenty of reaction across the nation and here to give a sample of that is bill scanlan. bill: you showed in the section of the new york times, 448 pages online at c-span.org. the report released about 11:00 eastern and simultaneously published online by the justice department. reporters and editorial boards have been spending much of the day and the night knowing over the report and just a sampling of the reaction across the

nation, linking to the editorial and this tweet, trump is no trader, but mueller report shows he has left a stain on the presidency. vindicationrt as for trump, democrats see further evidence of misdeed. to the seattle times, robert -- 448 page0 page report takes the american public in the room with trump as he expressed fear the special counsel would end his presidency. miners for trump, the story behind the russian organized philly rally that was highlighted in mueller's report. marty baron is the executive editor tweeting the mueller bang report suggests the fake -- of thetorial board washington post, the mueller report is the opposite of

exoneration. we will keep our eye on other papers across the country this morning. we plan to hear from legislators as they respond to the release of the report, particularly how house democrats will respond. we start with willie in annapolis, maryland. go ahead. caller: as far as the mueller report, i have never seen so many blank marks anna piece of paper. i think it is going to fire up and imocrats come 2020 believe before this thing is over, the question i have is what happens if the democrats not only have the house, but get the senate? i wonder if this is really over at all. host: you think, politically, this will go on. caller: i think it will go on

politically and the biggest flaw will be the republicans and the trump family may end up being the most hated family in america. host: when you say the biggest flaw will be republicans, what do you mean? caller: everything -- everyone can see through the thing. i don't know why they did not give it to them before. it sounded like it was very much doctrine aided. to the other thing i will look forward to is when they subpoena mueller. this thing does not look good at all. it does not sound right to our democracy and i heard the russians did succeed in a certain county in florida. if they did that, how many other counties did they succeed with? the response by may -- we will follow-up with that as we go on in the course of the morning. it georgia, independent line. david, hello.

listeners.pan this morning, you all have the opportunity to speak up about barr, which is an acronym for a bad apple radical republican has lied to you all and continued to lie like sarah sanders has been proven to lie. the thing of it is they are all protecting the president, which i can understand. we have had fremonts and kit carsons for a long time. ,ost: when it comes to mr. barr specifically what do you mean? caller: just start with everything he has done to get to where he is at today. he did this before in the day when he came out there and ran the frontline for other presidents and led to mass confusion instead of giving the

people the truth. the man came out and spouted propaganda yesterday. how far do you have to go in your life to reach bottom politically? this is beyond anything i have ever seen and i saw nixon. this is actually worse than nixon. host: let's hear from our republican line, mike in north carolina. good morning. caller: good morning, pedro. it really is entertaining to listen to the opposition on this . mr. barr b and mr. mueller revealed nothing that most of us -- a lot of us that support the president and the president himself have been declaring for 2.5 years, that this started with the steele dossier, a political, uncorroborated

political opposition research. all candidates do this stuff. they try to dig up dirt on the person they are running against. most of it is uncorroborated, rumor, innuendo, hearsay. that is where this started. hillary lost the election, so they turned the steele dossier into a soft coup. they turned that into the base a fisa warrants and this whole debacle we lit -- we witnessed. we were told by democrats, we have to believe -- we have to accept the election results. we saw how that worked out. it did not work out for democrats, so they did not want to accept the election results. host: the release of the report yesterday, what did you make of the 10 actions the special counsel highlighted as concerns for potential obstruction? caller: okay.

i have no concerns about it at all. the president was under attack. this is where mr. barr might have wandered into a little bit , makingicization statements about president trump's emotions. he was a president under attack. what is he supposed to do? if you are an innocent man. think about this, pedro, and your listeners, too. if you know people are out to destroy you, how are you going to behave? you will use everything in your power to defend yourself. host: did you think it was appropriate for the attorney general to make those characterizations in his statement yesterday? caller: can you repeat that, i am sorry? host: did you think it was appropriate for the attorney general to make those characterizations yesterday? caller: i don't know.

i am not smart enough. i am not smart enough. whether it was appropriate or not, the president has been under attack since the day he came down that escalator because he is not establishment washington, d.c. , at: off our twitter feed viewer says lying barr was hired as trump's personal attorney. he blew off his duties to be .rump's protector the criminals in this administration must be addressed properly. liz says it is over, you need to accept it and try to find another imagined crime. facebook pager saying lord trump derangement system -- symptom is in full swing. the mueller report makes it clear trump should be removed from office immediately. we hear next from tom, independent line.

tom in pennsylvania, hello. caller: hello. my question is this. if the steele dossier was fake to begin with and used to start this investigation, then this investigation is a total hoax. that is pretty much my whole comment. host: ron in indiana, democrats line. served my name is ron, i in the u.s. navy. i wanted to talk about -- the uniform code of military justice talks about lawful and unlawful orders. we spent a week during training dealing just with these issues. -- only the people who issue those who follow unlawful orders are also held responsible. my question for anyone who can answer this, is this something that falls under the office of

the judge advocate general? against bring charges the president for issuing unlawful orders? why do trump's children all look so much like gary busey? host: let's go to bill scanlan, hello. bill scanlan, go ahead. news reporting across the country, pelosi and schumer call for mueller to publicly testify before congress and we are hearing the house speaker will call for a meeting on monday, a telephone conference meeting on the road forward. the courier-journal out of louisville, trump thought mueller would end his presidency. kristen welker from nbc with "at this point, the legal team does not plan on releasing any additional reports." this is from abc, from their

podcast. chris christie saying it was not a hoax, i think the report is a benefit to the president on the russian interference portion of the report and one more from the bureau chief of the associated press, julie pace tweeting mueller's report reveals a president who push the boundaries of a's negative of executive powers and the law. the reaction from house democrats is the next phase of what goes on after the release of the report. it was jerry nadler who was asked by reporters yesterday what he wants to hear from, specifically from robert mueller. here is some of his reaction. [video clip] barr says -- i don't remember where he said it, whether this was verbally or in one of his letters to us, he told us the special prosecutor's

determination -- that he was not going to indict the president on obstruction charges had nothing to do with the department of or --e doctrine that doctrine was considerably important. we want to get to the bottom of that. host: that report available to you if you want to read at c-span.org. you can see commentators from .he legislators all of that available to you when you go to the front page at c-span.org. trina, independent line. is i am notomment surprised by what the report revealed and no one should be. this reveals donald trump's character, how he does business.

it should not be a shock to anyone that this happened. however, i am concerned that this is another -- revealing trust. level of it is more of a destabilizing .orce in our country host: what is a concern of yours with what was released yesterday? caller: the concern is the president did try to take actions to manipulate facts. knew god he had people who the law, new the constitution and could say i am not doing that. unfortunately, they were fired or let go or resigned for it after the fact and then were

maligned in the press by the president and other people, some of them. thank god there were people there who said we are not going to do that. indiana.t is trina in one of the lines from the mueller report yesterday saying the president's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful because the persons who surround the president declined to carry out orders or cede to his request. we hear from robert next. go ahead on the republican line. caller: good morning. you are going to get these democrats if cnn and msnbc could tell them they saw elvis presley walking through the streets of nashville yesterday. host: how does that release to the report -- relate to the release of the report? caller: they hate trump so bad, they don't want to believe anything. host: what did you get from the

release of the report? other: i would go and do things if i was congress and senators. there is so much other work they can do. they are going to drag this out until the election. they are not going to find nothing. host: that is robert. we will hear from ken in pennsylvania. democrats line, hi. caller: good morning to you. i just find it interesting so many people lied to the chief counsel and so much evidence was destroyed that it truly prohibited him from reaching some of these decisions. host: evidence such as what? caller: evidence such as keywords, collusion, and obstruction. host: when you say it was destroyed, what do you mean? caller: just quoting from the report. destruction of evidence.

next,massachusetts is tommy, independent line, hi. caller: hey, pedro, you are the best. i am so happy about the report, he was vindicated. i told howard store in a year and a half ago that anyone who believed there was anything to this russia thing is retarded and i think he is. it's time we investigated hillary and the democratic party . they screwed bernie on the primaries and gave him a house and everything went away. the clinton campaign paid for this dossier, they were in cahoots with the fbi and department of justice. heads are going to roll. host: what did you make of the conclusions from the report when it came to issues of obstruction? caller: i think mueller has it out for trump. he is not the straight shooter they say he is and i would doubt

very much he is a republican. his job was to find stuff. all the indictments he got were things that happened years and years before the election and that is why the special counsel is a horrible law. host: from the mueller report, it reads as such, the conclusion that congress may apply the obstruction laws to the president's corrupt exercise of our -- the principle that no person is above the law. all of that available when you go to our website. it will be front and center on the front page if you want to read the report for yourself. other portions are being made and publications across the united states as well. republican line, this is dave, omaha, nebraska. caller: two years, $30 million later, nothing on it just because they do not like the man

. congratulations, you are putting trump in for 2020. host: when you say there was nothing there, you are talking on the country -- obstruction and collusion side? caller: it was based not on facts anyway. every president has their black moments in office. look at clinton. host: that is dave in nebraska. it john podesta, who was part of the investigation when it comes to emails and wikileaks has an op-ed in the washington post. an assault on our democracy and he writes, trump did not just watch this happen, he actively supported, even inviting the russians to steal clinton's emails. the interactions between trump and wikileaks operatives are the most heavily redacted parts of the report. trump seemed to have advanced warning of what wikileaks would be releasing as evident -- by

his conversation with rick gates . the trump campaign knew the russian intelligence hacked their political opponent, knew at least something about the stolen content would be disseminated and made the stolen materials part of the campaign strategy. more of that available at the washington post. this is eric in florida, cape coral, you are next. caller: how are you doing? host: fine, thanks. go ahead. caller: there is a small, unknown little tax law that when -- when you join the cabinet, you do not have to pay taxes on your severance when you leave. the ceo of exxon, when he got his severance package, he paid no taxes. barr was an attorney and when he sold his practice, if he stays one year under trump, he pays no

taxes. it behooves barr to do what he has got to do and not betray the president. host: how did you make those connections? caller: there is a tax law. host: you explained that. i am wondering why you think it applies to mr. barr's behavior in this case. caller: if he stays where he is at, right? ok? if he stays where he is supposed to and does not get in trouble and trump loves him as he normally does, he does not pay taxes on his severance. it behooves him financially to not cross the president. host: mike in ohio, independent line, hello. caller: good morning, pedro. it just amazes me. does anybody read anymore? i heard somebody say morning joe and big as watergate. this is a perfect example of

pull from hillary's book. attack, distract, and avoid. eventually this will come out and it will be one written report and we will find out there was a coup d'etat attempted. this is going to tear the government and the people apart. are we going to put these individuals in prison where they belong? thank you. host: did you read the report from yesterday? here is more from the attorney general from yesterday talking about the decisions made on the topic of obstruction of justice. [video clip] >> we don't have the report in hand. could you explain for us the special counsel's articulated reasons for not reaching a decision on obstruction of justice and does it have anything to do with the --artment's long-standing disagreeing with some of his legal theories. what did you disagree with him on?

i would leave it to haze description in the report -- his own description in the report on why he did not want to make a determination. i will say when we met with him, deputy attorney general rosenstein met with him along with ed o'callaghan, who is the principal associate that petey on march 5,- deputy we asked about the opinion and whether or not he was taking the position that he would have found a crime, but for the existence of the llc opinion and he made it very clear several times that that was not his position, he was not saying that but for that opinion he would have find a crime. he made it clear he had not made the determination there was a crime. host: more of that press

conference available at c-span.org. here is bill scanlan. >> we try to bring you a sample of reporting from news sites and newspapers across the country. the cartoonist with the charlotte observer with a tweet this morning and the cartoon me, me, mr. barr in this cartoon saying we cannot answer the question because it was difficult to determine the president's intent. the pioneer press, the analysis, ngeller paints a damni portrait of the president. hasredacted mueller report been released, here is what is inside. breitbart news with a couple of tweets, barr, i have no objection to mueller testifying. what will they do after mueller

testifies and they still do not have the goods? kellyanne conway's news conference yesterday, conway to the press, the big lie you let fly for two years is over. you can see that news conference, all of that on our website at c-span.org. all of our coverage from yesterday, type in mueller and you will find it. host: george conway has an opinion piece in the washington post and he has been publishing several as of late. if you want to check it out for yourself, there is a cancer in the presidency responding to the release of the report. in louisiana, republican line, brian, hello. brian in golden meadow, louisiana. go ahead, please. caller: here i am, hello. host: you are on, go ahead. caller: they did not find any collusion and if you do not have any collusion, you do not have a

crime, so there is no obstruction of justice. we have had corruption in politics for years and years. they got rid of kennedy, the government got rid of kennedy because they did not like what he was doing, ok? they have corruption everywhere. we need to get these politicians out of here. we need to put common sense people -- these people cannot even add and subtract because we are so far in debt, they don't even know how to have a budget. when it comes to the report yesterday, what do you think about some of the highlights it had about the president behavior in some of these incidences? caller: go back and look at hillary's behavior, look at obama's behavior. they had so much corruption and scandals, it is relook -- ridiculous. host: that is brian calling from

louisiana. the washington times highlights some of the other undetermined factors of the release of the report, specifically the 14 other cases left for prosecutors to consider saying mr. mueller said he referred the cases to prosecutors and local u.s. attorney's offices because they fell outside the scope of his mandate to uncover evidence of the russian 2016 election meddling. experts say the referrals made sense, keeping a major investigation on track has been a challenge since ken starr expanded the scope of the probe of president clinton's whitewater land deal into perjury. this is from sun city, california, democrats line, hello. caller: good morning. it is amazing to me how many people want to call in and talk about hillary instead of the report. is it bill barr, i believe his name is, he comes out and gives

his synopsis before reporters, before congress, or the public has had an opportunity to see the report or read the report and he is going to tell us pretty much what he thinks. i found, in the report, that everything the media said is true. host: specifically what? caller: excuse me? host: specifically what? contactshat all the that the trump organization had before and during the transition. all the contacts they had with russia proves they meddled in the election. , people are saying he was defending himself and that is why he lied and forced

people to do things or tried to and they refused to, so he fired them when they refused to lie and break the law. i heard one guy i believe from louisiana, i don't remember where, saying he was defending himself and if anybody is attacking you, no, you defend yourself using the law, you don't lie to defend yourself. host: that is roy from sun city, california. george has a piece in the washington post taking a look at the actions of the attorney general when it comes to the treatment of the mueller report under the headline barr acted by the book. he writes saying nonetheless by not bringing obstruction charges, the special counsel did make a decision on obstruction. his avoidance to state there will be no charge -- we should not

have prosecutors, special or not, writing public reports on investigations. the artful dodge resulted on the decision being kicked up to the attorney general. barr articulated the decision the made the -- that special counsel already made and all the other noise which will surely follow a rising on the one hand and the other hand, dissertations are legally irrelevant. decidedrney general against the obstruction charges, case closed. george in the washington post if you want to read that. in illinois, lawrence is next, hello. caller: kind of good timing on the exonerate issue. you should have a dictionary for these people that call in and thesehe definitions of

words when they call in. have a jury exonerate the accused man. in that same vein, if they did a two-year investigation of me or you, pedro, and read a report i woulde investigation, not be exonerated of child abuse. you know why?because i have never been accused or indicted of child abuse. host: specifically what that means to the findings yesterday? theer: because a lot of progressives and democrats that want to use this report are zeroing in on mueller never obstructionrump for of justice, ok? he was never indicted for it, there is no reason. a counter example would be what happened in chicago with the actor that supposedly states the fake crime, the investigators,

detectives, police department did an investigation and showed -- they thought there was enough evidence that they indicted him on 16 different counts and then it went to the state attorney general in illinois and the state attorney general said i am not going to indict this man on any of those 16 counts, i am going to let him go or the penalty was i think he had to forfeit his $10,000 bail. host: that is lawrence in illinois. the president had a chance to address the wounded warriors projects, members at the white house in the east room. it was during that event the president made a couple statements about the release of the report. [video clip] >> i am having a good day, too. it was called no collusion, no obstruction. [applause] there never was, by the way, and there never will be.

we do have to get to the bottom of these things, i will say. this should never happen. i say this in front of my friends, wounded warriors, and i just call them warriors because we shook hands and they look great, so good, so beautiful. this should never happen to another president again, this hoax. it should never happen to another president again. host: for the remainder of our time, two point five hours, we will mainly hear from you about the release of the mueller report. you can call at 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. an independents, 202-748-8002. if you want to post on our fitter --twitter feed, @cspanwj is how you do that and our facebook page, facebook.com/cspan. john in kansas, republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning, pedro.

how are you? host: i am fine, thanks. go ahead. caller: i am so hypocritical of these democrats to jump on william par as they do. do they remember? don't, patricia lynch and older saying -- no one ever criticize them and when lynch called it a matter on hillary and they never were going to convict her although she destroyed evidence. i think it is a little barrritical when william is the villain to all the democrats and -- host: let me ask you this, -- why do you think william barr is not the villain? caller: and we should back him, but the other side never will. int: let's go to kim virginia, democrats line. caller: hi, pedro. host: hi.

caller: so many things, i am trying to decide which one i want to talk about first. to the gentleman in illinois, i want to remember the president himself claimed exoneration, his people came out and said he was exonerated. let's remember he is using that term as well. i would love for people to take a deep breath, cents -- step back, and common sense of clay talk about what a normal president or citizen would do when in office, someone like sally yates comes to you and says our adversary in russia has some things i would like to talk about with you and let's figure out what is going on, most of us, i think, would probably say, let's figure out what is going on and what happened was he freaked out and became so defensive that it started the whole ball rolling.

we have to remember what it was that started it, why the intel people would have been remiss in not investigating that in the first place. host: you still think pollution happened? caller: i don't know if there was collusion, but it wasn't a witchhunt, a hoax, that just feeds into this divisive rhetoric in this country. the "fake news" turns out to be an accurate depiction of what was going on the entire time. host: that is kim in virginia. from the mueller report volume 1, page nine, where the investigation identified the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges. the evidence was not sufficient

to charge any campaign official as an unregistered agent of the russian government or other russian principal and our evidence about the june 9, 2016 meeting and wikileaks release of hacked materials was not enough to charge a campaign-finance violation. more of that available if you want to read it at c-span.org. >> the news being reported from reuters, chairman nadler to issue subpoena for mueller report and underlying evidence, past our bedtime at "washington journal," but night on jimmy fallon, just a few read actions on the monologue jokes making fun of red actions -- reactions -- redactions. one more from our digital -- stop & shop strike

in massachusetts, joe biden saying i haven't had a chance to see it. joe biden has finally made up his mind according to the atlantic and is releasing a campaign announcement video wednesday that will had footage -- have footage filmed outside his childhood home. rew andy off facebook saying if any normal person has this report, we will be barred from having a top-secret security clearance for life. sharon smith about the report says $25 million in 24 months, great way to use taxpayer money, not. rich is next, hello, go ahead. caller: i think the report came out and i think the report was an honest report. what you take out of that report and the opinions about that report, that is an individual thing.

what it actually says and what it actually means, whether you believe that or not is another matter. i used to have this saying sort of like it is your story and you can tell it anyway you want. i believe the man told his story and people can say what they want about it and believe what they want about it. where the truth is is what the man said and whether you want to believe it or not and what you do with that, that is what this is all about. i think there is a lot of times -- the man from chicago talked about that smollett case. chargesctives referred and the district attorney chose not to charge him. -- go anyto call further down that road, you called it an honest opinion. why is that? caller: he looked at a lot of lot of the facts and said collusion -- and the talk of collusion was not an actual

charge. when they looked at these issues they had members on trump's campaign was feeding poll data to russian operatives, yeah, is that collusion? collusion is not a crime. the evidence says something is going on. you want to say collusion, conspiracy. to me, a lot of times they take these political charges and are able to dismiss them because of they portraynd how it. host: what do you think about the conclusions made on the obstruction side? caller: i see the smoke, but i cannot see the fire. there is something there, but he is not in a position -- he can

recommend it. did it make these connections that you -- it is a requirement you charge the man? he did not see that. host: kevin in florida, republican line. .aller: good morning host: go ahead, you are on. caller: i like the report because i believe it was a photograph, snapshot of what they were supposed to be doing. hello? host: you are on, go ahead. caller: my opinion was that it was a good snapshot of what he found and the results of this said he did not find any obstruction and when he looked in collusion, he said there was .ot conclusive evidence i am going to think that is good . especially the democratic politician on before you, making a number of statements, he went

on and said the president lies daily. that statement by him deludes everything else he said. i am concerned may be from votes are we not concerns the russians may have been trying to divide the country with this stuff and maybe that needs to be looked into? host: that is kevin giving thoughts on the release of the mueller report. you can do so on the lines and our facebook and twitter feed available for you as well. some legislators will join us on the phone later on, but primarily from you. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. an independents, 202-748-8002. tennessee is next, darlene from tennessee, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning, pedro. i need to say on the topic of the president's reaction reminded me of children in a

playground where they say na, na me., na you cannot catch i believe robert mueller did a fair job investigating. he did what he was able to handle and he will pass it onto congress. i hope congress does not put all their focus on this because we need to find someone that will put the presidency back into what they are supposed to be doing. host: if congress investigates and go down the road of impeachment, is that something you would support? caller: if they find absolute, without a doubt, so he will not slip through the crack's. the administration as well, of course, they lie. as children, we were taught early in life, don't lie. i wish i had a dollar for every time somebody lied. int: let's go to sharon north carolina, democrats line,

go ahead. caller: i think they need to start getting rid of everybody in washington and hiring new people including presidents, republicans, democrat, and all. maybe we can get a fresh start that cares about the united states. host: if that is not going to happen, what about the release of the report? what did you make about the content? caller: i think they wasted our time on it. there are more important things. we have so many people in the united states, they need to do something about it instead of focusing on this. host: why did you think the report was a waste of time? caller: it was. it has all been proven a waste of time. host: because why? , i think, this is my personal opinion, i think there is more important things in the united states to focus on instead of this here. host: let's go to bill in indiana, republican line.

caller: i think if you investigated anyone or any company for as long as they investigated trump, you could find something to put anyone in prison for, not just a technicality of things, but the whole thing is frustrating to an american citizen. i was an independent, former democrat. i was not going to stand by and let a clinton be back in the white house. clintons had already destroyed america with nafta and that other crap. host: what is it about this report that is frustrating? caller: if you investigate anyone enough, you can find something to twist and put them in prison for it. host: you did not agree with the decisions? caller: i agreed 100%. they keep trying to find some dead body to poke. democrats lost. why don't they accept that and

go on and that of trying to dream up things -- i don't even like trump. i am a republican, but as far as trump being a human being, he is a scumbag. it is a matter of which people do you choose? you know what i mean? host: one of the people giving comments on the release of the report was alan dershowitz. theou go to the website, hale.com, he makes this conclusion saying barr makes the -- takes the view crime cannot be constituted by an authorized action of the president. mueller takes the view that can be turned into a crime if it isn't properly motivated. the view is extreme and dangerous to civil liberties because it creates a pure thought crime. according to mueller the corrupt motive is the crime. the implications of this view for all americans are

frightening. you can read more of alan dershowitz's piece when you go .o thehill.com from tonya in georgia, independent line, hi. caller: hello? host: you are on. i was: i just want to say a former democrat and to watch democrat party, i decided to vote republican because they did not have no way of helping america, especially black americans. as far as the mueller report, i .hink it was a witchhunt two years, $25 million and there is no evidence. for mueller to be a prosecutor and supposedly experienced in this legal feel, theory, you cannot people -- put

people in jail with what you feel or your theory. it has to be evidence and for anyone to continue to go along with this shows we are okay with dividing the country. hillary was never investigated and she did crimes, illegal stuff most of us would go to jail for and she was not investigated. was a fake republican. democrats, please wake up. needs pipesgan, fixed, people are dying there because of the water. we need to bring -- help america. host: here is bill scanlan. >> newspaper reaction in president trump's hometown, new york city, and dueling tabloids. first cover of the new york trump -- lowobarr,

vow to subpoena. from morning joe, press secretary sanders, you can do more. it's time to leave, you have disgraced the podium. more about that from good morning america this morning with george stephanopoulos, pressed repeatedly on her comments on fbi agent's, sarah sanders told george stephanopoulos quote it was the heat of the moment. i am sorry i was not a robot like the democratic party." writing about that to brian at cnn writing about the situation with the press secretary this morning saying robert mueller's report confirms sarah sanders made it up when she said countless fbi agent's had told her they were thankful trump had fired fbi director james comey. the: you can call us on

lines, post on facebook, you can also post a thought on our twitter feed at @cspanwj. shelley in west virginia, democrats line, hello. were several things that were very surprising to me in this report. things did not raise to the legal standard, but it is very unethical, just like adam .chiff said also, another thing that surprised me was that when james comey went to the hill and briefed the gang of 8 on the trump,gation into donald

senator burr was the one that went and briefed the white house .n what was said i don't hear that talked about very much. one person on msnbc said it yesterday. of all the people listening to this and reading this does not believe the president has lied acts.mitted unethical host: from the report itself, what was most surprising? you said several things surprised you, what was most surprising? caller: the way that mueller could not exonerate the president on obstruction of justice. --could not because of

guidelines, but does that make it ok? really? today's do not hear this stuff? she is referring to william barr's statements about the office of legal counsel at the justice department. if you want to see the press conference, it took place at 9:30 yesterday, but available to you right now. if you go to our website, c-span.org. the washington post this morning highlights some of the potential obstruction actions the mueller report found. one dealing with jim comey saying shortly after the president fired michael flynn for lying about his interactions with the russian ambassador during the transition, he pressured jim comey to let it go. i hope you can see your way

clear of letting this go, letting flynn go. directed ktresident mcfarland to send in email denying the president instructed flynn -- more of those are laid out in the washington post story if you want to read that for yourself. in fresno, california, republican line. caller: good morning. i am calling to say i agree with the mueller report. it is about time somebody came out and said the truth. i watched on morning joe this morning shocked where he said there is evidence trump deleted phones.nd smashed his where is that coming from? isn't that clinton? isn't that clinton? in c-span.appointed

you have become like the liberal. i think you hang up on it so many people. you don't let them finish their sentences. if they are liberal, you go for it. host: that is not entirely the case, to be honest with you. finish your thought. every: i watch you morning and you are the worst commentator on here. host: personal comments aside, we will keep it to the topic of the mueller report although we show all sides and everything in between. if you go off our facebook page, steve not saying -- not hearing anyone say "but, hillary" this time. i am going to ignore all press information on the mueller report until i read it myself. i am not going to let the press tell me what is in the report.

joanne in california, independent line, hi. caller: hi, how are you today? host: fine, thanks. caller: i listen to democrats and republicans and nothing is going to change. whatever trump does, you know what he set about doing something on fifth avenue or whatever, they are not going to change their thoughts. i have been independent. i voted for emma kratz and republicans. -- democrats and republicans. proud our democrat -- president did not collude with russia. thank goodness those people had integrity and did not lie. there is some good in this report, but we just have to, i wish republicans would see the truth and say he did this, we accepted, and let's go on. host: what did you think of the

fact mr. mueller did not make a final call on the obstruction side? caller: that is the problem. i think he should have and i can see his stance. there is a reason he must have done it. if democrats keep pursuing this, somebody else said there are so many other things going on and so many other things trump is doing. trying to take billions of dollars away from medicare and medicaid and dumping things into streams with the epa. i wish the media would start focusing on some of the terrible things he really is doing because this is going to go on forever. host: we will hear from chicago, illinois, next. caller: this is john. god bless mueller. pedro, you ask too many questions. there is an old saying, for those who lie with dogs, you

will get fleas. are any republicans itchy? host: how does that relate to the release of the report? caller: pedro, are you itchy? host: i am asking you, how does it relate to the release of the report, yesterday? caller: pedro, are you itchy? host: in florida, republican line, hi. caller: good morning, pedro, how are you? host: i am fine, thanks. go ahead. caller: i am glad the mueller report came out. i hear so much ignorance, meaning lack of knowledge. people do not seem to understand basic government. educate yourselves, take basic civics and learn about your government so you know what you are talking about. people who blame are usually guilty. the most important thing is mueller is a man of honor and truth, a marine first and foremost.

the man would not have spent all that time and energy if they did not have a goal. i am glad it came out. i agree with it, it reads like a tv movie. i think the most important thing is donald trump took an oath of office. follow the facts. what we have seen him do thus far, they speak for themselves. you can talk about all the things he does every day or today or five minutes ago, he loves that. the bottom line is he takes an oath of office to take care of the united states. when you said you agree with it, what did you agree with? caller: facts are facts. this is ace's on fact information. and it is blow-by-blow. i have not read the entire thing

but i have spent a good six hours reading that as soon as it came out yesterday and it was put on the website of the department of justice. mueller is not a liar or a time waster. host: ok. caller: and oath of office. host: janice in california, republican line. caller: hello? host: you're on. go ahead. caller: good morning. my comment is first of all, everybody is talking about trump how he may be infiltrating or spying on the campaign. trumprly recall when stood in front of millions of people on television and said russia is spying. and i remember obama's response when he told him stop your

whining and go get some votes. trump did in fact speak about russia spying. and secondly, everybody wants to go there now that the report has come out in favor of trump and speak about how molar has to -- robert mueller has to be in his pocket and barr has to be in his pocket. do they not recall that hillary clinton was in with robert mueller working on this together. it is so far-fetched from the democrats. are they ever going to do anything as far as policies? is there whole entire lifespan of what they have left in congress going to be about trying to get something on trump? host: ok. that is janice calling on our republican line. first our down, two more to go. you can make your comments at (202) 748-8001 four republicans. democrats, (202) 748-8000

8000.enden and for independents, (202) 748-8002. tweetingesident up and and criticizing the report itself. i say first of all because we have not seen a follow on this and you will see why, statements are made by me. statements are made about me in the crazy robert mueller report by crazy democrats from haters. watch out for people that take notes when the never existed until needed because i never and we have not seen the second half. we will bring that to you when the president tweets it. on the release of the molar report -- robert mueller report, ueller report shows

that back i sue play dirty always win. -- russian nationals brief prudent on outreach says the criminal. today, robert mueller was supposed to be the democrats savior but they are out for blood. an op-ed in rt. off theat starts second hour. from jackson springs, ended line -- independent line, hig. caller: i'm an independent and i voted for obama once. i could not bring myself to vote for hillary because of what had come about. i did vote for trump. i do not believe in a lot of the twitters. mueller hasieve

cleared him of the collusion. i think if one of us, any a bunch of people from the fbi come at us and start making false allegations because they did not want us to be in office, we would fight back. if fighting back is obstruction of justice, then we have lost everything we have ever had in the justice system. i don't agree with everything he ,ays but i do believe he is like one of your former callers said, fighting for security. i have lived all over the world in government. and in a situation where i could see things happen, we need however we do,

not need someone making bad comments about other people. that -- under say this idea of fighting back, do you think the robert mueller report would have laid out instances of the president and examples of talking about that in light of obstruction and that is the best way to view it? if someone came to you and charged you with rape or pedophilia, would you not get upset and say this is ridiculous? wouldn't you go to try to get support? the man, evidently is not guilty of collusion. no american was. there were people who were indicted -- russians. and other people who were indicted because of follow-up to other crimes previous to that time. i was raised a democrat. however, i am very upset with

liberal. i am a middle of the line, a moderate person. and it is upsetting to me. very upsetting to me to see my country going in the direction it is going. host: that is carrie in north carolina. next from the democrats line, tom, hello. caller: can you hear me ok? host: go ahead. caller: i think the general public has made a miscalculation as far as the charges against donald trump. the president may not be guilty of high crimes but he is certainly guilty of misdemeanors. he has been nothing but a nuisance to the government. he has alienated countries and

people are trying to get along with each other in this country. host: are you saying that the molar -- mueller: report highlights instances that would rise to the case of a misdemeanor? and if so, give me an example. i have not read the report. he is supposedly the present of the united states and he is supposed to bring our country together and he has done the complete opposite. that makes him a nuisance. host: that is tom and maryland calling us this morning. has a piece on the new york times this morning taking a look

at the report. mueller's damming report. under the headline, he writes congress is well-equipped to make determinations that the special counsel decided were beyond its purview because congress has the power only to remove and not indict a present. they do not need to worry in the context of criminal prosecution that its actions will hamper the ability to continue serving. congress is well-suited to consider a present's constitutional powers including firing or directing subordinates for the purpose of impeding an investigation. perhaps most crucially, congressional hearings play a pivotal role in articulating the enduring values of the public. the reason for congress to hold hearings is not to reach a preordained result but rather to answer whether the president's conduct is acceptable. more of that is available at the new york times website.

this in light of democrats talking about having hearings featuring robert mueller and others. you can take that into consideration as you make your comments about the release of the report and talk about what happens next. particularly when it goes to congress. tom is next and he is in connecticut. republican line. that would not be obstruction because they would get somebody else. these 10 points of obstruction that happened within the office, if you feel like you're innocent like an innocent person is, he was doing -- desperately trying to show that he was innocent. and in the long run, no one got fired. his lawyers did not fire anybody. these obstruction points were taken by these 17 democrats

who despise him. and -- host: so you're saying you should look as these -- at these incidents as someone fighting back against these charges. caller: yes. fighting back against the giants. . the prosecution has a lot of things working for them. anan innocent person or innocent individual, he does not have much firepower except for twitter. host: in themselves, those incidents, do you think they were appropriate conduct? caller: i think the if you are on a level of fairness, no. in a situation where you are being attacked and there are not too many ways to defend yourself, i would say yes. reporto you think the and how congress handle it -- handled it, that will have a

long-term effect on the remainder of this term but the present's reelection campaign? -- president's reelection campaign? caller: i think there will be an overwhelming vote for the president. i think the democrats are going to be dust in 2020. host: even in light of yesterday? caller: even in light of yesterday, yes. host: that is tom. -- go ahead tom. caller: people are going to absorb this. they are going to think and come down to a decision that the department of justice came to a conclusion. they are going to have that same conclusion. host: that is tom in connecticut giving us his thoughts on the 10 actions the mueller report highlighted. the washington post has a summary of that if you want to weed -- read it there.

guy in port charlotte, florida, independent line. caller: good morning. i want you quite a bit. -- watch you quite a bit. what i find fascinating is the never comes out and i expected anything from the report. i got just what i expected. i don't think there was any crimes or misdemeanors or anything else going on here. what i find incredibly --strating is the level of the way that congress just wants to argue and never accomplish anything. it becomes so frustrating that we have problems, real problems solvable if they will just come together. and it is always a game of

one-upsmanship to the point where nothing gets accomplished. we have been trying to solve the border issue since 1980 with president reagan. and still nothing. host: you think the release of this report will add to that. ? caller: it is just a distraction. you don't kill the king with bb guns. what they are doing is nothing but just distracting the public from things that are important. we have world issues. north korea, china, russia, all of these things are incredibly important. our border security is incredibly important. ,rade negotiations, worldwide iran, iraq, wars that congress absolutely refuses to ever declare because they are only

interested in getting reelected. host: that is guy in florida making his comets about the mueller report. one of the members of congress responded yesterday. the democratic chair of the house intelligence committee responded to the release of the report and intentions of his committee after that. here are his comments. ago, i said some time whether these acts are criminal or not, whether the obstruction of justice was criminal or not or whether these contacts were sufficiently illicit or not to rise to the level of criminal conspiracy, they are unquestionably dishonest, unethical, immoral and unpatriotic and should be condemned by every american. that is not the subject of vindication. that is the subject of condemnation. that is how i think we should view the molar report -- mueller report. host: more of the comments are available at c-span.org.

kimberly, you are next up. caller: yes. i have been following this whole issue with collusion and conspiracy pertaining to the president, donald j. trump. we have to go back to when he was running for presidency. he was telling russia to put their finger on our election. you can say what you want as far as the mueller report goes. it tells you that he was trying hebe as apolitical as possibly could be. and that report tells you that even though you cannot indict a sitting president, there was complete authority by the president to do what he did with russia. now, russia is a threat to america like north korea, like china, like other countries. but donald trump has a

preference for russia. russia will do it again. other countries will try to interfere in our election. what we get out of this report is that we get the right thing. anma said you need to keep eye on north korea. he tried to get the president to understand that russia was invading our election. not a president trump fan but i will say this. waslieve the mueller report as true and accurate as it can be. it is up to our congress to follow through on what the rest of the mueller report says to do. host: that is kimberly in port orange, florida. let's go to a another floridian, dave, go ahead. caller: good morning.

there something i don't understand. -- none of that is mentioned in here. had you not had that, you would not have collusion. i think we have more important things to do in this country. maybe we need to start investigating these democrats who want to investigate -- host: aside from the dossier, what did you think of the findings? caller: the whole thing says it was started on collusion. robert mueller says there was no conclusion -- collusion. so now they have brought up obstruction which they say none of that could be prosecuted. i guess maybe we need to get on with business and take it for what it is. in connecticut, robert

from sims berry, independent line. caller: i am a first-time caller and longtime listener. i think you are very professional. you handle yourself well. william barr put this report out yesterday. he sugarcoated it. i am very upset with that. immigrants saying 17 , this whole war between democrats and republicans is trump's way of dividing the country. had who isollar you worried about the 24 million dollars spent on this report should look at the $17 million that donald trump uses to play golf in the last two years. that money goes partly to him. host: that's robert in connecticut. theoria toensing served as

deputy assistant attorney general in the regular administration -- reagan administration. she makes a case against the mueller report but also a case on how to go forward now that the report has been released. she says the regulations governing the employment of special counsel, those rules were written by the clinton justice department in 1999 after congress declined to renew the law. three changes are in order. first, regulations must require that only criminal conduct can be the basis for appointing a special counsel. second, the investigation must be limited to the specific crimes in the authorizing document. if evidence arises of an unrelated crime, it should be referred to a u.s. attorney. politicalit the accusations of coverups, they should make clear what may and may not be released and under

what conditions. release is at the attorney general's description -- discretion. victoria toensing's thoughts. you can find it on the op-ed pages of the wall street journal. new york is next, democrats line, simon, go ahead. caller: hello? host: you're on, go ahead. caller: i just want to say some of it we did some know already. guy whocoming from a not only went bankrupt six times and had a scam university. what i find telling about this investigation is the fact that he didn't want comey looking into him for the russia thing. my opinion is that there is not much to go on in terms of

russian collusion. there is definitely a lot to involve, including his dealing justsaudi arabia and he vetoed the human resolution. that some of the guys around him like michael , theyand paul manafort didn't register as foreign agents. that's mostly what we are dealing with. host: let's hear from anthony in new york, republican line. caller: good morning pedro, thank you for c-span. i want to make a point that is getting lost. to russians intention was divide this country using social media.

he has hisying that aney's worth and there was investment to promote discourse in this country, republicans against democrats and democrats against republicans. democrats are falling into his trap. they are using everything they can to follow putin's discourse on this. trump is the president. democrats should accept that. if they don't like it, 2020 is coming around the corner. vote him out. right now, he is the president. stop trying to get him out of office. thank you you, anthony in new york. it was the attorney general yesterday, portions of his presentations dealt with the topic of russia and working with wiki leaks. >> the special counsel's investigation also examined russian efforts to publish

stolen emails and documents on the internet. thatpecial counsel found disseminatedyu documents, they transferred some of the stolen materials to wikileaks for publication. wikileaks made a series of document dumps. the special counsel also investigated whether any member or affiliate of the trump otherwisencouraged or played a role in these dissemination efforts. under applicable law, publication of these types of material would not be criminal unless the publisher also participated in the underlying hacking conspiracy. hereto, the special counsel's report did not find that any person associated with the trump participated in the dissemination of the materials.

host: eleanor from new jersey, independent line. caller: i am watching c-span this morning and wondering what happened to all of the reports that came from the attorney general barr. i am wondering why and how everything is spun by different people, including trump. years go back 20 -- 40 and study trump? can we go back 100 years and study every president of the united states? we the people are the president of the united states of america. why in heaven's name aren't the middle-class and working-class being considered? there are more billionaires every day. host: how does that really -- relate to the release of the report yesterday? caller, how does that relate to

the report yesterday? is -- it is in the hands of the government. it is not in the hands of the people. host: let's go to bill scanlon. >> the president is in mar-a-lago for the easter passover weekend. it seems he has issued a series of tweets. this one from tournament it's. statements are made by certain people in the crazy mueller report, in itself written by 18 angry democrat trump haters which are fabricated and totally untrue. the notes never existed until needed because i never agreed to testify. it was not necessary for me to respond for statements to the report about me, some of which are total bs and given to make the other person look good or me look bad. this was an illegally started hoax that never should have

happened and it looks like we will see more am the president. a congressman from virginia reacting saying that trump a taxi mueller -- attacks the claims report which he exonerated him. we see what a huge lie that was. we are getting reaction from across the country about how other new sites and newspapers are reacting. martha mcsally went full team trump on the mueller report. good for her campaign. in terms of credibility, game over. the san francisco chronicle tweeting the mueller report offers no real bombshells but many details are new. the chicago tribune with this. termsgann was on speaking with president trump when he left the white house last fall reportert mueller's

revealed the president may owe his top lawyer eight debt of gratitude. with this screenshot from msnbc saying ms nbc can flood the zone with as many deniers as it likes. no collusion, no obstruction. host: the website has a featured story about don mcgann, the president's former personal lawyer saying the president became so superstitious -- suspicious that he was wondering whether he was wearing a wire. .e have no evidence they reveal the depth of his paranoia about his former counsel who sat for many hours with robert mueller's team of prosecutors. -- anger atann mcgann was shared among trump allies inside and outside the white house. he said don had the unenviable

job of trying to school the outsider president in the ways of washington. you can find more of that profile at the website. timothy is next in new york, hello. caller: hello. i feel that there -- they are wasting the united states' m oney. russia is doing their job by the united states look like fools. the president has been doing a good job by making the economy better and everything else. ok? has not been doing a dam thing. that is timothee in new york.

we will hear from you and if you want to comment on the release of the mueller report, it is (202) 748-8001 four republicans. for democrats, (202) 748-8000. for independents, (202) 748-8002 . you can post on our facebook page. during the course of the morning, we will be joined by several legislators to give their perspective of the release of the report and what happens next. joining us is represented jamie raskin who serves the eighth district of maryland. good morning to you. >> good morning. host: let me ask you what happens with your committee after the release of this report. >> we are going to hear from several people. we will hear from attorney general barr. we will hear from special counsel bob mueller. we will get our remaining questions answered about the writing of the report. the staged choreographed release of the information over the last

several weeks. -- next several weeks. then we have questions to address in terms of how do you deal with a president who who has -- who has so little respect is the raw and -- law and willing to trample law enforcement. host: what are your personal questions about the release of the mueller report? it was staged like a ballet. it was completely choreographed for political reasons by the attorney general who seems to have resigned as the chief law enforcement officer of the country and is acting like the propagandist for the trump presidency. there is serious business when we learn from special counsel mueller that there was an attack on our elections by vladimir putin and russian intelligence which the president is in denial about.

even though they were not part of the original team conspiring to make it happen with the russians, they clearly, eagerly accepted all of the benefits of this plan. instead of calling the fbi and saying there are russian agents trying to meet with us, they sat down with them. to acceptwilling there was no criminal conspiracy. there was overwhelming evidence to obstruct the mueller investigation. that is a serious problem. i don't think it is the most serious problem with the trump administration. we have a positive agenda in congress that we are working on. reauthorization -- we have the toughest gun safety legislation in decades, closing the internet loophole. the trump administration is not doing anything other than trying to destroy peoples health care

by ending pre-existing condition coverage and destroying the affordable care act. we have a serious problem because we have to -- defend the constitution against the most lawless administration of our timeline. what does congress do in terms of investor getting those things? the contexto put in of the overall abuse of power and corruption taking place in this administration. we have not had a serious investigation into the president's continued business dealings with foreign government .nd foreign corporations it bans the president from receiving any money and yet the trump hotel and the trump tower

and golf course are taking money from foreign governments trade billions of dollars. the president has converted the government of the united states into a moneymaking operation for himself and his family and friends, completely betraying the promises he makes to the american people -- made to the people in the 2016 campaign. we have a political agenda. we have an election coming up. we have more than 9 million votes than the republicans did in 2018. we are picking up momentum to try to create a political landslide that will wipe the trump administration off of the electoral map. we have to continue to look at these serious questions of lawbreaking and corruption. host: at what point in the future do we expect to hear from robert mueller -- you expect to hear from robert mueller? caller: i don't have an exact date but i would expect it to be soon. i know that people want to hear from him.

we note that his intentions were completely distorted by the attorney general when you read the report. is omitting substantial evidence of attempts by the president. him whoe people around saved him from his own attempts to obstruct justice. and yet, the attorney general reportas -- the mueller as some kind of exoneration to get a jump on the news. it was a propaganda ploy that the attorney general conducted and he disgraced himself and he disgraced the legal procession by acting in this way. host: and then the attorney general, do you expect another appearance of him in front of your committee? >> yes. i believe he is scheduled to come in on may the second.

i believe there will be aggressive questioning about this propaganda rollout of the special counsel's report. host: there have always been questions leading to the topic of impeachment of this president. do you think those come back into light, especially with the release of this report? >> is obviously a key part of the constitution. we should not be afraid of any part of the constitution. it should not be a fetish for anybody. neither should it be a taboo? the thing about impeachment is it has always been a mixed question of law and politics. which is why it is proposed in congress and not in the courts. if it was a legal question, the courts were decided. -- decide -- would decide it. republicans are fighting it every step along the way. trying to make progress for the american

people. at the same time, we are trying to defend the country against this kind of lawlessness. that is the challenge. host: representative jamie raskin. a democrat from maryland. thanks for your time, sir. >> thank you for having me. host: back to your calls. evelyn is next. evelyn from massachusetts, independent line, go ahead. caller: good morning. i have had this question in my mind for a long time. i have watched these people try to commit a coup on mr. trump. they have tried to throw him out of office, treason, you name it. why thelike to know republican party doesn't retaliate and take these people for the crimes they are committing right on the television set, it is coming out and they admit it. it is as if they know they can

get away with it all. the question is why doesn't mr. trump retaliate and take them into court for the damage they are doing to him? host: from jerry in new jersey, democrats line. hello, your next up. caller: good morning. i am a registered democrat. i love calling into the show. i want to tell you that i have predicted this whole time that the democratic party will be exposed for the corruption that they have perpetrated. i will tell you it is not over. everybody, get ready. it is coming. host: how does the release of this report go back to democrats, specifically? constant,cause the the constant think about the shiff should be arrested. williamhen they have

barr and robert molly -- mueller and from the committee, they expose what he has done. he has a big mouth. , the guy you just had on, what a nightmare he is. all of them with the collusion. you notice they are shifting it to taking money or benefiting. trump is losing money. ok? he does not get a salary. he is losing every -- money every day by being away from his business. what's it going to be next? host: ok. mark stone says the mueller to try to impeach the president. no sitting president has ever been removed by office by impeachment. wasmueller investigation

predicated on russian collusion. the accusations against donald trump are desperate bs. these guys were the gang that could not collude straight. i see where donald tried but no one carried it out. and the firings began. those are some of the comet -- comments people on the twitter feed are making. you can give us a call on the phone lines and post on our facebook page. glenn and lancaster, pennsylvania, good morning. you are next up. caller: lancaster, california. host: sorry about that. it was the mueller trap that started before donald trump was elected. he would not hire mueller. --rosenstein somehow

rosenstein, somehow because of sanctions was able to appoint mueller. he was not investing in the present, correct? this is all a coup set up by the obama administration under the predicate of russian collusion where they sent a russian spy with a special visa from loretta lynch. 17 agencies of the united states government, obama unleashed against our president. let's look back at the big picture. he is following our president around the whole world. host: aside from all of that lead up, what did you make of the report itself? caller: you know, most people

have not had a chance to read it. i have not either. you know what? that doesn't matter. let's look at the big picture. what really happened, pedro. host: that's fine. let's go to bob in maryland, independent line. caller: hello, pedro. i am a big c-span fan. i have never gotten through. i think you do a great job. can you hear me ok? host: you're on. caller: i've done some journalism. i keep coming up with the classic thought that they are burying the lead. for me, the report, collusion does not prove many things. the lead that i have focused on interfere inns did the 2016 election. it has been proven. the man who was elected was supported by them. and the american public does not seem to care. i have voted for both republicans and democrats. i think the question for the 2020 election is why don't we

care that we have a president who was supported by an adversary? simplys running, i would -- if i was running as an orependent or democrat republican, i would say putin supports him, why should we? i think it is an important question, rather than focusing on the collusion or obstruction. host: ok. bob in maryland. the attorney general talked about the aspects of the investigation in connection with russia. here are some of the assessments from the attorney general. >> one of the primary purposes of the special counsel's investigation was to determine whether president trumps campaign -- trump campaign or any individual associated with it conspired with the russian government to interfere in the

2016 election. volume one describes the result of that investigation. as you will see, the special thesel's report states that investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government in its election interference activities. that all americans share my concern about the efforts of the russian government to interfere in our presidential election. as the special counsel report makes clear, the russian government sought to interfere in our election process. thanks to the special counsel's thorough investigation, we now know that the russian operative who perpetrated the schemes did not have the cooperation of president trump or the trump campaign. or the knowing assistance of any knowing american for that

matter. that is something that all americans can and should be grateful to have confirmed. host: follow-up from bryan, texas, democrats line. caller: good morning, pedro. i love c-span. as well as my country. we have a criminal and a chief in the white house. god does not carry a liar. donald trump and rudy giuliani -- host: what did you read of the report and what did you make of it? i listen to y'all and i listen to good morning america, it's not good. he didn't collude but he did lie. he obstructed and he is trying to cover up stuff. did you read any of the

report yourself? caller: i have had some of it read to me. mueller is aert good person but i don't believe he found it all. i believe somebody will. host: here is bill scanlon. >> we have spoken with jamie raskin. we will speak with several members of the house judiciary committee brought the program, including louie gohmert. we will have him around 9:00 eastern. the hill reporting the judiciary committee chairman says they will subpoena the entire report today. and some local reaction, the detroit free press says the mueller report sets up a fresh battle as democrats demand answers. for 48 pageer's report -- 448 page report is parikh -- plagued by paranoia. says the aidsbe

ignored demands they deemed problematic. that will do it. we will bring you more reaction locally throughout the rest of the program. host: in salem, pennsylvania, mark. caller: good morning. i read some of the report and i was baffled by the fact that they did not go back to the genesis. there was dirt on hillary clinton. they did not say -- they did not interview him. the reporter was detailed about everything about trump associates -- trump's associates. they left out the most important part. why did the woman lie when she came to the tower? they would frame them to be able to lie about the meeting.

it was supposedly about dirt on hillary clinton but then it was about russian adoption. none of this was in the report. two calls ago, the guy said he was working for russia and they supported him. no, he was not. they gave the hillary clinton campaign the dirt on donald trump in the beginning. how could russia be working with donald trump if they slandered him off the bat. the mueller report was a complete waste of money. we knew this information two years ago. all these contexts -- contacts and all these things. there is no underlying crime to be obstructed. ony spent 200 pages obstruction of justice. host: that was mark in pennsylvania. the los angeles times on their do the yesterday said rumor tapes of the report exist? the special counsel's report deals with one of the elements

of the russia case in a footnote that mentions compromising tapes exist. comey talks about the allegation that such tapes existed when he briefed the president. the dossier contained unverified information even to the fbi in 2016 about alleged trump ties to russia. report says trump may have heard similar allegations weeks earlier. in october 30, 2016, a lawyer for trump received a text from a russian businessman that said not sure if there is anything else. investigators that the mission of tapes referring to compromising tapes of trump were rumored to be held by a conglomerate.

it says the company helped trump put the miss universe pageant in moscow. it says evidence has surfaced to prove the tapes exist and the mueller report does not say that they do. you can read more of that at the los angeles times. in iowa, independent line, don, hello. caller: hello? host: you're on. caller: i want to make a comment. -- did we need to wait and see. host: what is the sum and what is the all? and what is the all? caller: i have a question, why did don mcgann leave washington? host: what do you think in the -- the answer is? so is the washington

times and washington post. donald trump is putting out his heart. we need to let him go and do just that. said the report got some of it but not all of it, could you expand on that? caller: we have not heard all of it. we probably will not for a while. when it all comes out, it will all be settled. host: what do you think the all is? i'm curious. caller: what? host: what do you think the all is? what d think it deals with? -- what do you think it deals with? he has used his mouth too much. everybody has a personality. you'll see. host: that's don in iowa.

let's hear from miriam in texas. caller: yes, can you hear me? host: you're on. caller: i am calling because i am disappointed with some of the people that are calling in. let's remember that this is a --ion of laws where the most we are the most powerful nation. we hold our leaders to the highest standard. the leader should always be honest with the people. parents and if your and he decidese to use his power to do something . who are we as a nation? we should stand up to this stuff . what happens to the next person that comes in? tot: how does that relate the release of the report

yesterday, specifically? caller: look at all the things he has done. he is abusing his power. all the lies he has told about people coming into his office and he complains about people taking notes. i am an employee. never i go to the boss, i take notes. you never know when the boss is going to abuse his power. as normal people, we don't have lawyers. we don't have representatives like he does. host: that is miriam in texas. , couple of editorials including the new york times, they write so what now? was unable. mueller to bring criminal charges, his report laid the foundation for an investigation by congress which has the authority and response built he to hold the president accountable. the conclusion that congress may apply the construct -- obstruction loss accords with

their constitutional system and the principle that no principal -- person is above the law. it is up to the state to describe whether it meets and except it standard. says mr.ney general mueller makes note prosecutorial judgment about obstruction. he says while it does not conclude the president committed a crime, it does not exonerate him. the standard for a president prosecutor is not a exoneration. the standard is whether there is sufficient evidence to charge a crime. evidenceer lacks the to know what mr. trump's motives were. available.t from texas, republican line, roger. caller: the mueller

investigation is based on a lie. , he foundn dossier nothing. there was no crime. the story should stop there. these charges of obstruction are based on a non-crime. host: independent line, this is renee from starkville, mississippi. caller: good morning. first of all, good morning. i want to say that i am an independent. policy.rump's the democrat party should cease to exist. mueller is athat partisan democrat hack even though there is a r by his name. article published by

zero hedge. you can look that up. it states that hillary clinton told fbi, mueller to deliver uranium to russians in 2009. elite classified -- elite -- a leaked classified wikileaks cable. host: how does that relate to the report yesterday? caller: mueller is a partisan hack. this was paid for by the u.s. public, $25 million for partisan packed research, it is trash. host: chris, go ahead. that last lady that called is a hack. that is garbage. anyway, these people that call that -- i'm sorry.

-- i'm't prosecute sorry. host: let me put you on hold. we will get back to you so you can collect those thoughts and we will come back to you. let's go to kathy. kathy in oregon, republican line. caller: hi. host: go ahead. caller: i was calling to find out when mueller knew about the report or no collusion. host: meaning what? caller: well, did he know before midterms? that might have changed the outcome of midterms. how long have they actually

known that there was no collusion and continued to spout their nonsense? host: so you are talking about the timing of the release report ? caller: exactly. host: why do you think it is important? caller: i think it might have changed the outcomes of the midterms. had we known that there was no collusion, they have been spouting this for so long, believe they were on the defense. from the very beginning. host: ok. that is kathy in oregon. let's try chris in wisconsin. caller: that's the word, collusion. he states that collusion is not , it's conspiracy. -- there is a term

no collusion. he clearly states that is not a prosecutable term. course not. he says there is no such thing as collusion. it's not even prosecutable. it's not a prosecutable thing. it's not even a thing he's looking for. for the russian thing, it they put him in power. we were attacked in 2016. hewere attacked in 2016 and accepted their help. if we don't do something about

.t, it's going to happen again host: ok. that is chris in wisconsin. frank in atlanta, georgia, independent line. caller: good morning. i am surprised at how people have been on the republican and democrat lines. the dossier was not verified. the investigation was to verify the dossier. these people that are calling in saying trump has been exonerated, have they read the report? i've read a part of the report and still do not have an opinion. host: the portion that you read, what did you make of the findings? caller: i'm still reading it. i haven't formed an opinion. i haven't read enough of a report to have an opinion which is what most of the people should be saying. host: what portions have you read? caller: i read the 10 things you pointed out.

and then i listened to all of these republicans saying how donald trump has been exonerated when that is not what it shows. host: those highlights -- for potential obstruction, do you think mr. mueller makes the case? caller: when it comes to the up structure, okay -- obstruction, ok. when i see something -- someone shoplift in the store and i see the store detective running towards them, and i do something to impede, did i assist in shoplifting? area and legal people determine this in accord with judges, not reading a report, forming an opinion, and saying this is what it is. it has been so tribal. it democrats, republicans, us independent people get stuck in the middle and we don't have independent parties, this to congress is not the best way to do this. atlanta,t is frank in

georgia, finishing off the second hour we have spent in this program taking your thoughts, comments, tweets, and the like when it comes to the release of the mueller report. you can do so in our final hour. if you want to call, 202-748-8001 for republicans. democrats, 202-748-8000. and independents, 202-748-8002 you can tweet us at @cspanwj and face -- post on our facebook page. the report is available on our website as well as the comments from the attorney general, comments from the president as well and house democrats as they consider what to do next. here to join us on the phone to give his perspective is louie gohmert, republican of texas. good morning to you. guest: good morning. it is great to be with you. host: your initial thoughts on

the release of the report, the information released and what do you make of it? guest: it is what i have been saying it was going to be for .uite some time that is that mueller never should have taken the job as special counsel. he was begging trump to make him director of the fbi again, trump refused to do that and in -- 24 hours later, he had a chance to go after the guy he was unhappy with for not hiring him has fbi --as fbi director. i have known this guy, researched him well, and had different occasions to question him when he came before our committee and this guy did more damage to the fbi than hoover in his worst days. he ran off thousands of years of

experience because he wanted nothing but yes people around him and that is what he got. dramaticallyamaged as a result and i think it has led to the inability to have fbi officials in there who were more accountable so you could have people like peter strzok and justpage and people that were out after their own political pursuits, who they .ike then who they did not i have been saying he was going to drag this thing out as long as he could. we find out he surely had to have known within a year that there was no russia collusion, nothing to prosecute. i know you know there is no crime in collusion, it is a conspiracy and there is nothing there. namedign agent

christopher steele who used agents inside russia. we don't even know if they worked for putin directly. i knew the report would be coming after trump. he did not have anything to prosecute and that's why the recommendation is as it is. he is about the only guy i could think of besides klapper or brennan that would spend 200 pages of nastiness, trying to get you to dislike the guy they were persecuting. that is what we have got. otherwise, for heaven sake, this stuff he detailed is ridiculous. host: the reports this morning nancy pelosi will meet with house democrats via phone call monday about what to do next. congress will not be silent. what do you expect will happen from house democrats and what does it mean for house republicans who will hear these

testimonies and the like? guest: i think you have heard say mature voices already impeachment is not going to be something worthwhile. this senate is not going to a president, who in the democrats ey' eyes did all these terrible things. really, there is nothing to prosecute. what you can expect and what you can see and it is already lined out for the whole month of may, you will see hearing after .earing i know the strategy it is, they think a best -- our best defense is a good offense and you have details with real conspiracies like i outlined with fusion gps, christopher steele, people in russia.

and you have people manipulating the justice system from the top of the fbi and justice department. those investigations ought to be ongoing, but you can expect to hear a lot of noise being made, a lot of noise that really symbolizes nothing, but it will be to keep attention off of real obstruction. when you have something and you have somebody take a hammer and break your evidence in two, destroy your emails, that is real obstruction. host: we heard from your colleague earlier on this program and he talked about the upcoming hearing that william barr will participate in. what did you think of mr. barr's performance at the press conference and how he handled this material? guest: i thought he handled it and with all the criticisms he

has taken for being a shield for president trump, i thought it was just the opposite. this is a guy doing everything he can to allow total transparency. a prosecutor who was not under such transparency probably would have come forward and said, i have got the report, there is nothing to prosecute, and that is the end of that. he went out of his way to make sure all of the dirt, all the unpleasantness mueller wanted to swing in the direction of trump was completely printed and .lmost totally unredacted i thought he was doing everything he could to be fair butbeyond impartial, actually allowing for showing

more partiality, which he has no credit from the democrats. i was suspicious of barr, i knew he was friends of mueller bank, but i think he has done a tremendous job. host: is that something you would advocate for? caller: -- guest: i voted to have a complete report because knowing mueller, i knew if it was a highly redacted report that mueller would leak out anything that he felt like would hurt trump and i felt like the only way we would get anything positive out of it is if the whole thing were released. as a former prosecutor and judge, i know there is grand jury material, things that should not be released that cannot be. some of theect grand jury stuff to be released and i think, already, there has been more released than we ever

solve released from the obama administration when we were trying to get material. this second have to 200 pages with nothing to prosecute, but a lot to criticize, we have already gotten more than i figured would be coming out. host: if robert mueller does appear before your committee, what are your questions for him about the framing of this report? what is the top one? guest: i have tried so many cases in federal court and state court. when you have a professional witness like mueller, you do not give him a heads up on your questions. those will remain yet to be found. . do expect to be loaded up -- cannot show how

it is going to be difficult, but we will see what he has to say. host: this is representative louie gohmert, republican of texas, serves the first district. thank you for your time. guest: thank you so much. thanks for the interest, thanks for your fairness. host: we will hear from some more legislators before this hour is done. this is chris, college park, maryland, republican line. thanks for waiting. go caller: ahead, you are on. caller:i have a couple issues with what happened yesterday in barr's press conference. he said it was his report and laughed. i find that surprising because i thought he was doing this for the people. the other thing i have is people have been calling in saying mueller's investigation was based on the dossier.

it is my understanding it was based on papadopoulos and what he had told somebody from another country. i do have problems with the report and the fact that our president asked people around him to break the law and people refused. if they had broken the law for him, then he could have been convicted. with all the people who have left his administration, i think a lot of them probably have left because they were asked to lie and would not do it. i wonder about the ones who are in there now, whether they would live for him. i am concerned because in the report it said the russians wanted to help trump get elected and the trump election committee was willing to accept that help. whether a law was broken or not, that is there.

i don't believe the report was for nothing because there were a lot of indictments and particularly on the russian side. on ourrom michigan, democrats line, dave, hello. caller: hello, good morning. host: you are on, go ahead. caller: a couple of points, please. the first thing is when attorney general barr stated the trump administration corroborated -- cooperated fully with the mueller people, on what planet did that happen? hundreds and hundreds of tweets that attacked mueller and the report, trying to get him fired. there was no cooperation. the other thing is i need help with the english language. if it is not collusion, what is it hauled when the top man, the campaign advisor, has multiple meetings with russian agents and hands over polling information from the republican party and

talks about key states? what is that called? please help me with that. what is it called when donald trump has a campaign first and -- person for the campaign meets with russians and the whole presence is illegal and gets dirt on his opponent. the president lied for the cover story. if he knew that, he must've known what the meeting was about. host: politico has a piece taking a look at the surprises of the report and one of the questions is by the cofounder of whistleblower aid. americans should be proud of what we witnessed saying what is most intriguing from the report was the revelation that 14 criminal referrals have been made by the office of special counsel to various u.s. attorneys offices and we have only publicly known of two. the president and his family are not out of potential hot water.

looking at the investigation from 30,000 feet, americans should be proud of what we witnessed. we had the president of the united states investigated by a nonpartisan group and the republic survived intact. the fear the president expressed when he learned of the appointment of robert mueller as special counsel, which deserves scrutiny as to why he felt that way, was unfounded, and that is a good thing. more of those comments, a variety of them at the politico piece. we go to david from akron, ohio. caller: good morning, pedro. i just want to state i am a main working-class patriot, not a wall street patriot and what i find ironic about this is i don't think any country should be interfering with the election process of another. that violates sovereignty.

host: to the release of the mueller report, what did you think about those findings? caller: anything that mueller found should be made public and discussed on its merits and the strength of the evidence. host: what did you think of the evidence presented? caller: i have to be honest with you, i have not read the details of it. i think there is a lot of evidence of meetings and everything. arelieve both major parties dominated by wall street. i would call it oligarch dominated. there is a few independent people like bernie sanders fighting against that. taintssian corruption both parties. host: let's go to bill scanlan. >> we will have several other members of the house judiciary

committee on the program before we wrap up. the news came out about the issuance of a subpoena. jerry nadler, the chairman of that committee tweeting to that effect and saying he is expecting the department of justice to comply by main first. craig caplan reading some of that from what jerry nadler saying i am open to working with the justice department to reach -- i cannot expect a proposal which leaves congress in the dark as they grapple with duties and legislation. this news we mentioned, story earlier, it is being confirmed, edward isaac of the atlantic, biden has made a decision, he is running, announcing by video he is announcing in the video -- writing that that announcement would be made wednesday next week and reportedly will be shot

in joe biden's hometown, scranton, pennsylvania. confirmation of that from the associated press, julie pace tweeting biden is in. he is expected make his presidential campaign official next week. we will have more information on the mueller report and around the country before we finish up here. host: former mayor of new york, former presidential candidate, and at one time considering a run has a piece taking look at the release of the mueller report. mueller opens the door for congress to assert itself. congressional committees have invited mueller to testify. he should, and clarify what is perhaps the most important passage, "while this report does not conclude the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him." congress should make sure mueller's decision to not press

conspiracy charges is not adopted -- expressly forbidden in the u.s. and legislation is needed to protect american campaigns and voting systems against future attacks. let's hear from james in georgia, you are next up. caller: good morning. you just made a statement that the legislature should use the loss -- laws.e that is what they should be doing. our top law enforcement, the doj has said there was no collusion -- justice.pt to when do we leave it alone? we do not get anything from the country by going over and over

and over the same old stuff. the report did not get rid of president trump, so nothing else will. it is just a bunch of talk to attack. they need to write a law to make sure it does not happen again, that is what they need to do. i want to make one other statement about adam schiff. adam schiff went to, according to some reports, went to russia, sit down, and was talking to the russians to dig up dirt on our president, but nobody talks about that. host: your assessment of the report, did you make that by reading the report itself? ? caller: no, i did not. i have the report, i don't even think i need to read the report because nothing is going to happen. the department of justice has already said there was no collusion and there was no reason toindict, no construct -- justice.

let's move on and try to do something for the country. host: washington, d.c., sean, democrats line. hi. caller: good morning. i would like to just point out that my top review on the report is the obstruction the report outlined impacted the investigator's ability to make the determination as to whether a criminal conspiracy occurred. the president, and his questions, has written answers to the questions posed said 37 remembert he could not what had happened. evidence was destroyed in the messages,,ils, text whatsapp communications between anders of the campaign

russian agents and the former campaign manager lied to investigators, misled investigators, and failed to cooperate with the investigation, which impeded the investigative ability to get at the facts of what occurred. host: that is shawn and washington, d.c. more from jerry nadler on the release of the report and allegations that the president gauged in obstruction of justice. [video clip] >> the attorney general's decision to withhold the full report from congress is regrettable, but no longer responding. barr has so far refused to work with the committee to provide information, the kind of information that has been customarily provided in the past and to which the judiciary committee is entitled.

these concerns and many others will be addressed when barr testifies on may 2. even in its incomplete form, however, the mueller report, incomplete because part is redacted, the mueller report outlines disturbing evidence that president trump can -- engaged in obstruction of justice and other misconduct. contrary to the statement this morning that the white house fully cooperated with the investigation, the report makes clear the president refused to be interviewed by the special counsel and refused to provide written answers to follow-up page 13, volume 2 makes clear the associates destroyed evidence relevant to the russia investigation. page 10, volume one. the report concluded there was substantial evidence that president trump attempted to prevent an investigation into his campaign and his own

conduct. that is why i formally requested testifycounsel mueller as soon as possible so we can get some answers to these critical questions because we clearly cannot believe what attorney general barr tells us. finally, it is clear the special counsel's office conducted an incredibly thorough investigation to preserve evidence for future investigators. host: this is from the mueller report volume 2, page 182. if we had confidence of the facts, the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards. the evidence we obtained about the president's actions presents difficult issues that prevent us from determining no criminal conduct occurred accordingly

while the report does not conclude the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. minnesota is next, independent line. caller: good morning and thank god everyone is calm, cool, and collected. happy passover and happy easter. is it legal for attorney general barr to do what he did yesterday and why are republicans so hell bent that he is innocent until proven guilty? i read it last night until 2:30 in the morning, so forgive me, i am a little tired. what is going on in the world where people are so ignorant and stupid that they cannot see what is clearly in front of them in black and white? host: according to mr. barr, what do you think was illegal about what he did yesterday? caller: it is like giving

somebody a heads up, the police are coming to your front door, it is really illegal, it really is. it is like what happened with nixon with the attorney general in 1978, i believe it was, when nixon did that. and said, you are going to go out next with -- the assistant attorney- assistant general and he did that and it is the exact same thing. e gamesenstein, your star is on point. host: sylvia is next, republican line. i did vote for president trump, but the obstruction of justice really concerns me. i know michael flynn and paul manafort helped as far as the campaign, but i don't think we should be protecting our friends by trying to obstruct the

investigation. he needed to have kept his mouth shut, no twittering, no nothing. we have to be careful not to try to protect our friends to keep them from going to jail. ist: that is sylvia and this tori in huntsville, alabama, democrats line. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: i have one thing i want to say. report,in the mueller if we would just -- instead of putting trump's name, put obama's name and the republicans will have a different outlook. host: meaning what? caller: meaning if it was a black man doing all the things trump has done that mueller put out that he did, it would be over for obama.

host: what portions of the report do you think apply to president obama or what are you trying to say by that? theer: i am trying to say 10 facts of obstruction of justice he did that they said he didn't do is because his people would not actually go through with it, but that was his plan, that is what he wanted to do. i think obstruction of justice goes with having a plan. host: tori is from huntsville, alabama, democrats line. this is our independent line, robert, you are next. caller: hello? can you hear me? host: you are on. report was mueller set up on a lot of lies to begin with. papadopoulos has been on tv saying they gave him false information and wanted him to give it out and did not.

what about this or presented of did colludectually with russia to get evidence and that has kept quiet? if he is a representative of the united states -- host: what did you think about some of the things that came out yesterday? did you have a chance to read it? caller: i have not read it, but i have been keeping up on it. barr didt is in and not have to release any of it. there was supposed to be a confidential report to him and democrats cannot take the truth. trump has to be bad. he has been the best president we have had, he has done more than any other president ever did and look how well the economy is doing. they cannot live with that, they

don't have anything to come up against it, so they have to make him a criminal. in alabama,s robert this is from connecticut, republican line. mark, go ahead. glad thisam just reporter is finally out and this thing is over. the country has been through a lot. i considered the whole thing a witch hunt because in this country, we don't start investigating people, we investigate crimes. there was no predicate for the investigation. it was a partisan thing the media and democrats pushed and they got there special counsel and it turned out just like anybody that is reasonable could there.re was nothing there were all these anonymous

that turned out not to be true if they didn't do what they did. they lied to the american people for over two years. what did you think about the findings for the obstruction of justice for the report? doesn't make any sense because how do you obstruct a crime you never committed? the fact that he was finding that, of course, he will fight back. if you are innocent, you will fight back, but he did not insert any executive privilege, which he could have. you know? he was transparent as possible. he should be given credit for that, and he is not. the only reason the democrats are going to continue down this road is because the media are no different than the democrats. they are democrats with press

passes. host: did you read the report? are you planning to read it? caller: yes, i have read some of the report online. and i have not read the entire thing, but it is a political document. many parts about obstruction of -- many parts about obstruction of justice doesn't read as far as the charges are concerned. i think the democrats, if they were smart, they would move on, but they are so determined to get this president out of office. host: that was mark from connecticut on the republican line. several legislators have joined us on the phone to talk about the reports. cohen, as is mark member of the judiciary committee. good morning. guest: good morning.

host: with the release of the report, what do democrats do with this essay continue investigating the president? guest: chairman nadler issued a subpoena for the full report today, which we have a duty and a right to see. it was intended that mr. mueller was for congress to see the report and said it is their responsibility to act on it. is in the constitution as a check and balance by the congress. it has been inscribed in the founding of the father's papers saying that is the proper recourse. that is the first thing we do, and we will have mr. barr before

the hearing on may 2, and mr. mueller no later than may 23, and we will find out the truth about the report and what mr. mullen's intent was tax mr. mueller's -- and find out the truth about the report of what mr. mueller's intent was. office ofthe legislative counsel has a policy that says you cannot indict a sitting president. so he has left that to congress and grand juries. that is what we will do and then move on. host: do you think the 10 instances you described by looking at them, do you think they rise to the level of obstruction? guest: there is no question that they do. mr. barr tried to defend the president. person -- thate

was the whole reason for having his own personal cliff notes. his press conference yesterday talked about the president being agitated because he was being investigated, but that is not an excuse for criminal behavior. he made it clear through the report as far as the firing of because he would not say the president was being investigated, and he did it because of the russia thing on lister hold. -- and he tried to have mueller fired because he wasn't doing the report -- he wasn't doing the investigation the way he wanted. there is a real criminal concept , trying to shut down all of the people involved in the investigation. and the people around him lied

all the time. and as you heard, he said when mueller was appointed, said i'm f --. my presidency is over. you would not think your presidency was over if you were doing the right thing. let's move on with the next course of our dem agenda. but -- next course of our agenda. so he knew he messed up. -- but he knew he messed up. and so, i think that would be fair. host: semester mueller appear before your committee -- so, should mr. mueller appear before your committee. far did you want to know as as the way he came to his

conclusions? caller: we want to know about obstruction and why he thinks he should not be indicted? we want him to discuss that with us. we want him to discuss the level said itct he would have was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. of -- what degree he judged the evidence by, and the same thing for collusion. it appears there was behavior that you could say was collusion. but collusion is not a legal term. it is conspiracy. we want to ask them about that conspiracy, and was there and/ore of conspiracy, contact with russia? we want to see what he felt about those things, and we want to know if he was asked to end his investigation? i expected -- i suspected barr

put pressure on him during the investigation. we want to ask him what was his involvement in the redaction? to fill us in him on other information, like the footnotes, etc., and we want to ask him whether barr interfered with asking whitaker cannot take certain actions. u.s.e president one at the attorney to un-refuse himself, which is an impossible thing to. click to see if there were any other -- but to see if there were any other actions or pressures brought to whitaker for him. those are some of the major issues we want to ask. host: you talk about the hearing set take place any talked about the matter of impeachment. do you get a sense that that is

off the table as far as those proceedings with house democrats? caller: hello see if not for it -- nancy pelosi is not for it and others are not for it. they think it would be possible , oronvict in the senate thata difficult district would move from the president at all. they stay close to him like a baby chick does to its mother. they see it as off the table. i personally believe he committed an impeachable offense. i'm a history major. i think the facts merit it. it is our duty, our calling. convict,nate does not

which they won't, so be it. impeachabletted offenses and has desecrated the presidency, in my opinion. this report was more condemning than any report we have seen since the watergate byestigations and the report ron contra where barr ended up getting involved with that, too. and the starr report, which was dalliancet a sexual and a lie. he had affairs with the porn star, the playboy model, pay them off, and lied about -- paid them off, and lied about that. he says no collusion and no obstruction. that is what he said. it is like he said mexico was

paying for the wall. a lie. host: ok. lie, lie, lie. host: that was representative steve cohen joining us on the phone. thank you for your time today. guest: thank you. it is about a president that your children are proud of and someone who will go down in history with people knowing that he told the truth and that a good life. host: thank you very much. -- i'mo to mark in sorry, let's hear from sarah in california, democrats line. caller: can you hear me? host: yes, you are on. caller: i cannot tell who i am or angry with. trump for his past and current behavior, and i followed him since the 1980's when i worked with an investment bank in new york.

for his current behavior that was presented in the mueller report that or his current behavior -- or his current behavior that was presented in the mueller report. the policy issues, i'm not in favor of what trump has done. i think he has done a lot of damage internationally, and health care issues that he will try to address, and possibly delete the pre-existing illnesses. host: do you think they will be able to do both? and dogate the president those things? caller: i hope to god they do. they are both important from my perspective. this man has just cheated people out up wages. he was racially and that she was racially-insensitive -- he was

racially insensitive when he was owning apartments. host: let's go to bill. our eye on reaction to the mueller report from local papers. some of mueller's reports limited reductions cover entire pages of 448 pages of the report. we wanted to bring the ranking member responding to the subpoena held this morning. chairman nadler held a press conference to admit he only scanned the report. but now he is rushing to subpoena material that cannot be shared outside of the justice department. that is just in from doug collins. more reaction from milwaukee journal sentinel suggesting in some instances, trump aids were insisted to protect the president. piece, liberal journalism unfazed by the

reality of the mueller report. from the miami herald, they are looking saying the kremlin was able to disseminate with frequent misleading stories to goodme tensions to create the dallas morning news, texas republican see the mall report as vindication for trump. the democrats he further evidence of misdeeds, and a radio show host says, yes, exonerated. a republican from california, todd joining us. thank you for joining us. we have had previous members of the committee on the democratic side saying some of the comments in the report are worthy of investigations. what you think of that? years,for the last 2.5 we have heard morning, noon, and night from the media that the

president was an agent of russia to overturn our election process is. every single day. now we know that that was a deliberate lie and was concocted by the clinton campaign in used by our government first to implement the election, and when that failed, to undermine the legitimately elected president and tear this country apart. now, we have the mueller report. all of these charges of russian collusion conclusively repudiated by the facts. the democrats are now attempted to concoct a that the president obstructed justice with the conclusion that the mueller report does not make. the charges are attempting to make are based -- the charges they are attempting to make are based of a man accused of treason. it is hard to charge obstruction of justice when there was no underlying crime, no assertion

of executive privilege, and over one million documents were turned overwhelmingly to the investigators. compare this to hillary clinton, who destroyed 30,000 females -- 30,000 emails under subpoena commanding you get a sense of the double standard. say they other guests are expecting attorney general william barr to appear before the committee as well as robert mueller. should they appear before the committee, and what do you want to ask them about the report? caller: the other shoe is about to drop in the russia investigation. this country has been dried through 2.5 years of these completely discredited charges of russia collusion. completely discredited charges of russia collusion. and now, i think it is -- intelligence agencies who knew

this dossier was phony and new thewas concocted by democrats to influence a presidential election. it toen they used undermine the president and challenge the legitimacy of our democracy. i think now is the time to receive the inspector general therts become identified corrupt officials who are responsible, and bring them to justice. do i believe the house judiciary committee under jerry nadler and nancy pelosi will do so? not a chance. but i have high hopes that the senate judiciary committee under lindsey graham is going to be picking up this investigation now, and turning over all of the rocks at the justice department, ourthe fbi, and at intelligence agencies, and hope these people accountable for

what they did to the country. host: the chairman of your committee has issued a subpoena for the unredacted report. are you support of of that? -- are you supportive of that? wanting toupported get to the bottom of all of this. i wanted an independent investigation. thes quite confident in innocence of the president. i supported the independent counsel and i would like to see as much of that report released as possible. the what i don't want to see happen is an ongoing investigation into the corrupt officials responsible for this ..5 year eruption hoax think it isu possible that you will be able to not only deal with issues found in the mueller report, but

each of the policy matters? we have had callers that some were concerned the business of government will stop because of these investigations. me thatt is clear to the democrats have been obsessed over this president since the day he was elected. in fact, before he was elected. i think they will do anything they can't undermine his presidency. i think now the credibility is completely shot. concernsour callers' are correct. i think this is what they have been obsessing on and this is what they will focus on for the remaining time of this congressional session. if people don't like that, my advice would be to be careful on the vote to cast in the next election. host: republican tom mcclintock, serving the fourth district. thank you, senator. we have 12 minutes left until the end of this program.

can make your comments -- you can make your republicans. 202-748-8000 republicans. 202-748-8001 democrats. 202-748-8001 independents. john is next. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i wanted to say that the mueller report was used as a hindrance for this administration. there is the democratic party and the liberal media that are being used to hinder this administration, and i would like controls thee information that -- that he who controls the information comes out controls the perception. we need new legislation on health care and tax reform. this is ridiculous. thank you. line, fromepublican

portland, hello. caller: hi. what i was going to what i wasy has been covered. i think an innocent man looks at things differently than a guilty man. [no audio] > it is not race. it should not be that way.

seeing things from a different perspective. people should look at things from a different viewpoint. host: let's hear from beverly. callingyes, i was because i agree with everything steve cohen said, and the reason why is because i have not read the report, but i have listened it on tv, and the facts are there, and the reason why mother could not do that -- why mueller cannot exonerate the president is because he found criminal activities. say the facts are there, what do you mean by that? , weer: you know, overall have been watching this president since he got elected. those are the facts. and reading what i have been

going on. i have not read the full report, i have been going with what the media has been saying. the facts and the truth is there. i wish they would change the loss on about, you know, no sitting president can be indicted. that is what they need to work on. host: a holiday weekend for trump. if you want to take part of that we can to read the mueller report, you can do that on c-span.org. we have provided a link that will take you -- we have provided a link to take you to the justice department. not only that, you can find out everything we have done over the past two years with this network in this program have done when it comes to the mueller report. into the website and type mueller report, and it will give you the hearings, special events, and the like. if you want to get a full

comprehensive picture for everything that has happened over the last 2.5 years, go to c-span.org. frank on the independent line. caller: good morning, pedro. this is a special friday, bringing in the remembrance of a young galilean who was crucified. many of us are remembering that on this good friday morning. what i want to say about the mueller report, what i can comprehend at this time, at best, it is an conclusive. -- it is un-conclusive. what i see are frivolous accusations. teddy,us means trivial, trivial, andy, void of significance, in this brings remembrance to me on the

hearings of clarence thomas, and now our supreme court justice have accusations that are totally unsubstantiated. [no audio] >> it had been rejected by the attorney general. anybody in their right mind

think that if they could have found anything on trump, they would not put it out there. have -- on their who tried to join the black caucus. host: scott is next in sierra vista, arizona on the democrat'' line. guest: good morning, pedro. attorney general barr dereferenced there was -- marja referenced -- attorney general william barr referenced there unconstitutional access taken. our president chose to do these actions before the wounded warrior event. guess what? he said wounded warrior, but forgot to include himself in that group.

oftead of recognizing all those around him, he should have said, and i too are a wounded warrior. let's think about crime accessories before, during, and after. happy easter. host: before you go, how much of the report have you read and what did you conclude with the materials presented? caller: pedro, i have not read the reports. i have it downloaded. am ann intelligent -- i intelligence officer and i do cyber security for southwest asia before they did ciber,. i know certain things take time to be absorbed, what i cannot accept her people's actions -- but i cannot accept our people's actions before, during, and after. as i listened to our nation's

citizens, i have to ask myself, it is not about me, it is not about you, it is about the others who are going to be living with this for the rest of their lives. host: that is scott in arizona, matching the president's appearance before the wounded warrior's event. here is the president from yesterday. [video clip] pres. trump: i am having a good day. it was called, no collusion, no obstruction. [cheers and applause] trump: there never was, by the way, and never will be coming and we do have to get to the bottom of these things, i will say. this should never happen. i will say this in front of my friends, wounded warriors, and i just call them warriors because we just shook hands and they look great. they look so good and so

beautiful. this should never happen to another president again. this hoax. this should never happen to another president again. host: main is next. this is spencer, independent line, good morning. caller: good morning. i wanted to offer a little bit -- pose a different take. charges,00 pages, no and i just want to know, what makes this any different than what comey did the hillary clinton? this is three elections now, three elections influenced with no charges, so some information should have come out, but should everything be public right now? it is a slippery slope. it is over 400 pages of op-ed research. i think the american people, as time goes by, this will sink in and we will realize we have had

three elections influenced now -- 2016, 2018, and 2020. that is my take on this. host: connecticut is next, preston, republican line. caller: i'm calling because i want to alert people to a "time" magazine article, january 30 of 2017, which was after trough was elected. there is an article, liberals plot revenge. is an the article, there gentleman from media matters, and he was upset, talking about he wanted to throw himself over a building with regard to hillary not winning. and there are quotes he made. he says, we are going -- when we are going to do is use litigation as a way of tying trump up in knots every way we can.

host: ok. that is charlene. that is the end of our program. we thank you for participating. right now, we take it to the organization known as csis, an event taking a look at the united states and north korean relations as well. that event already starting. we will take it to you in process. >> in a while. role, anastasia is a research fellow at the maritime state university in blood of our stock in russia, an expert on north korea, north korean security policy. she will be talking to us about u.s. dprk normalization and the role of surrounding powers including russia, giving her perspective and the view from russia about what this