reelection strategy of president trump. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter as well. "washington journal ♪ host: sunday, may the fifth, 2019, cinco demaio. good morning, and welcome to " washington journal: health care in particular, government run medicare for all type programs are at the top of the democratic agenda and this week the house committee moved to the issue forward on capitol hill and we would like to spend the first hour asking your view on a medicare for all type of ozone. if you would support a program .ike that, call (202) 748-8000 if you would propose it, (202) 748-8001 -- oppose it, (202)

748-8001. for medical professionals and how it would affect your career, your line is (202) 748-8002. we welcome your comments on our facebook page or send us a tweet @cspanwj. we will show you the details on the plan in a moment. it was reviewed on capitol hill, we will get your thoughts. some of you may have been watching the bernie sanders campaign event in iowa bang and we will show you those comments momentarily. thatis the plan in general has been proposed? her plan would create a government plan that would include prescription drugs, hospitalization, long-term care and dental benefits. it says that employers couldn't offer health care plans that compete with government run coverage and that people now on medicare and medicaid would shift it into the new system and the a programs run by the

and indian health service's would remain unchanged. broad outlines. we will get into more details on what we saw this last week on the hearing. again, (202) 748-8000 if you support medicare for all. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose it. for medical professionals, (202) 748-8002. already, people weighing in on twitter, perhaps time in cheek, michael lodging bernie sanders this morning saying good to sanders, providing the back onto the democrats on this, cost prohibitive without restrictions. topic, i love listening to anti-socialism retired right-wingers badmouth medicare while defending it for themselves. we welcome your comments @cspanwj. at that iowa campaign appearance, here's the bernie sanders had to say particular

about medicare for all. [video clip] the economic rights, human rights we are focusing this campaign on is that health care is a right, not a privilege. [applause] now, now for the corporate media , for my friends in congress, this seems like a radical idea. is it a radical idea? how many major countries on earth are there that do not guarantee or health care to all people as a right? anybody know? one, you are living in it. understand that. i live 50 miles away from canada . in canada if you end up with cancer and you end up in the hospital with massive treatments, you know how much your bill is question mark its right. other countries have different systems. canada is more or single-payer system.

but essentially, all of the major countries on earth understand that if you are rich theoor, you should have right to go into a doctor's office when you are sick and not hesitate. [applause] we lose, we lose some 30,000 people a year because they hesitate to go to the doctor because they can't if ordered or the do not apples or copayments are too high. that is not acceptable. you're going to hear a lot about ,he debate for medicare for all but you should know that the insurance companies, drug companies and others in the health care industry have teamed up together to do everything can understand that. when insurance companies and drug companies make billions of dollars in profits every year when they have ceos that make millions of dollars in

compensation, they like the status quo. ok? we are going to tell them break 34l -- ray clearly that when million people have no health insurance and more are underinsured, when we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs at a time when the top 10 drug companies profits lastion in year, that is no longer acceptable to us and the american people. host: bernie sanders on the campaign trail in iowa bang yesterday. our first topic this morning, medicare for all, do you support it, oppose it? (202) 748-8000 if you support medicare for all. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose it. medical professionals, we would really like to hear your take on it, (202) 748-8002. alden, utah, good morning on the support line. hello, yes, i am

supportive of medicare for all. i believe in what sanders is saying because it's basically true. the better productivity, work productivity and all of those other things and how to pay for taxes fromse the 6.45% to maybe 8% to cover the extra cost. hadi you get health care right now? -- how do you get health care right now? i'mer: today i am 65, so getting medicare right now. today's my birthday. host: you have called in on the right day, happy birthday. thank you for that, bernard. we will go to brian, next, who opposes it. salt lake city, utah.

either. caller: this is -- hi there. doesr: anytime government anything, they destroy it. to doment don't know how nothing. my health insurance was cheaper until obamacare. now i'm paying $700 a month. and it was about $260 i was paying. it just kept going up each time. anytime government gets in anything, they do good on the military, but anything else you know, it's the constitution to have the school. the epa, that's all of that, that's bureaucrats. we don't vote those people in. what's the new one that obama done, consumer protection agency? we need to get rid of all of that because we can't afford it. let the private sector run the stuff. siegel wrote this about the medicare for all

proposal as proposed by bernie sanders. "the transition to a plan like the ones propose would be a norm asleep expensive, 30 trillion dollars over 10 years by some estimates. because the program bands private insurance, it would fromace 177 million people their health insurance plans, including 156 million from employer-based health insurance, which for many employees is the reason they took the job in the first place. for employers, it provides a taxed eduction which is an incentive for stretching the budget and hiring. a transition to medicare for all would be a job killer, affecting millions more in addition to the close to 2 million health care workers that would be displaced from their jobs in the transition." find that at usatoday.com. calabash, north carolina, go ahead. caller: hello? host: you are on the air.

caller: yes, hello? i'm sorry, so sorry. good morning, how are you? host: i'm fine. caller: the guy from utah right now, i was about to have a heart attack. i cannot believe that these people do not get what universal health care is all about. i lived in canada. i'm canadian. i took care of my dying mother for like eight years. she had heart problems. she had doctors appointments. she went to the hospital, was , inated, rehab, all of this taxes, extra taxes, she paid $650 a year. no insurance premiums whatsoever. , i got guy from utah news for you. you are an idiot. host: let's hear from bob, next,

in jacksonville, texas. bob, do you support a medicare for all type program? jacksonville, texas? bob, go ahead. one more for jacksonville, texas. are you there? all right, we will hear from smitty, next, new smear the beach, florida, opposing medicare for all. go ahead. caller: ok, isn't it ironic that the government is actually trying to unload these liabilities of medicare by encouraging people to take medicare advantage? a health actuary friend that works for a major consulting firm says that medicare advantage saves about 25% over medicare. and i think it's just ironic that bernie sanders like a drug dealer is telling people that

, and hisis so great comments about drug prices, it was the democrats in the legislation that obamacare that to theed, that added cost of drugs dramatically. at the example of joe manchin, in west virginia, the got his daughter at -- a promotion at a lab because they put in the legislation to jack up the cost of the epipen. , vote for this stuff, it will bankrupt the country. you cannot more people in the part -- more people in the cart then arc pulling the cart. there are other factors, like competition and numbers of changes in the legislation. pre-existingat

condition also. host: let me ask you if i can, how do you currently get your health insurance? caller: well, i will go on medicare in august on my birthday. basically, a professional, obviously, paid a total of $600,000 into medicare over the years, my employer and up, i have added contributed tremendously to everybody else's health care. ad i still have to pay premium. i will probably take medicare advantage. thanks for calling in. we are spending the first hour talking about medicare for all as proposed by senator sanders in the house, as well as other presidential candidates talking

about medicare for all type health plans. if you support a plan like that, the line to call in on his (202) 748-8000. (202) 748-8001 if you oppose medicare for all. and for medical nationals, that line, (202) 748-8002. we welcome your thoughts on facebook or you can send us a tweet. that's at @cspanwj. host: also getting the attention of "the washington post" editorial writers this morning. "mr. sanders deeply mischaracterizes how difficult .dopting it would be

to hear bernie sanders say it, one would think that creating this system is easy. no other developed country in the world that -- guarantees health coverage to its people. so can the united states do this. editorial staff says that the united states creating a health care system from whole class -- :00, mr. sanders would have a better point, but this is not the only way to get universal coverage. it's highly disruptive. in doing this he deeply mischaracterizes how difficult adopting it would be. the congressional budget office analysis released wednesday underscores why, the nonpartisan analysts found that the consequences are difficult to predict because all they had to rely on were experiences from previous changes that were much smaller in scale but one thing was clear, many of the massive numbers of employed americans under the current system would

have to find new jobs and under the sanders style system, the employer-based health care plans that most nonelderly americans used would also be eliminated. at can read more washingtonpost.com. then, in support, massachusetts. caller: i'm in support of a single player -- single-payer plan. i go back, i'm an old dude. i remember remember during the preparations for world war ii, when they were drafting people for the military, half of the unqualified,d were didn't pass their physical exam because they had grown up without having medicare. i would suggest that medicare become a part of the national defense, because if you don't have a healthy military, if you

don't have a healthy source for ofruitment or four induction people to serve in the military, you are not going to have a decent defense. i figure that if you place it on the defense department, you get less opposition to the cost of it. anything that you can do that will be a single player -- begle-payer plan, it will less in administrative costs than exist now. next, lydia, supporting a medicare for all type program. caller: yes, hi, i've had no insurance, i've been in hr, and then being afraid to take off

because i didn't want to use my insurance. before i die, i just hope that we can forget democrats and know, gets and, you medicare for all. doctor, i have medicare advantage. i don't care which i go to. christopher, dr. leiden, oklahoma. good morning. dr. line, the oklahoma. good morning. caller: a couple of points to make. on this issue i used to be for universal health care. but i've done a little research on these countries that have it and it's not what it's all cracked up to be. a lot of times there's long waiting lists. care's like not the best for just basic things. dental is one. i can't remember the other one. love the one thing that i do

wish we had universally is mental health care. lackinglive it's sorely and in pretty much every state in the union -- i haven't heard of any place where they are help -- happy with their mental health care. i think it's a major thing. host: christopher, how whole -- how old of a guy are you question mark how do you get your health care plan now? and on the mental health issue, are you noticing this as an increasingly worse problem where you live? first, you asked me how old i was? host: yep. caller: i'm 40 years old. ok, what was the next one? host: how do you get your health care now? called i'm on a program ss medicaid.

and to your observation about you think that mental health care should be universal. is it increasingly worse in your area? host: i will put it this -- caller: i will put it this way, where we live we have no psychologist, psychologist, or licensed professional counselors. care -- lowy health tier. if you want to get to one, you have to drive four or five hours away and pay out of your pocket. ,hey won't take your medicare medicaid, or be in a certain age bracket. there are places that will take medicaid, but only if you are under 18 or over 65. still haven't figured that out. calling inciate you

this morning and sharing your view and your information with us. again, resetting what's covered under the proposal proposed by bernie sanders and from elegiac paul. health care that included prescription drugs, hospitalization, long-term care and dental benefits and employers could not offer health plans that compete. people now on medicare and medicaid would he shifted into a new system, but it would not affect veterans affairs, the a health care, or that provided by the indian health services. if you support that. if you oppose it, (202) 748-8001 . for medical professionals, (202) 748-8002. this is marty in wellsboro, pennsylvania. hi, nice to talk to you. my husband is a british citizen,

so on several of our visits i had occasion to see a doctor over there. they seemed very embarrassed to have to charge me $20. one time i was having a series of migraines and i think that to see a specialist took about and the bill was less than $50, i know that. the british complain about their it takesre, they think too long. they have no idea. anyway, there's something about medicare for all that no one has brought up, in this country medicare only pairs -- pays for 80%. , itprice of health care now certainly wasn't that way when my parents got it, the pet -- the price of health care, when 80% becomes almost -- i mean the

20% that's left becomes almost impossible to pay. i had about with cancer and just the x-rays would have cost me $1260. heaven knows what the chemotherapy was. know, they are going to have to do something besides just medicare for all as it applies now. the 20% is too expensive. hear from dan, in moreland, indiana. dan opposes medicare for all. hi, dan. hi, i've been listening to your broadcast. the latest just spoke had a real good point about the cost of health care in general. my wife is 67, i'm 72.

and i agree with a lot of what sanders has to say. but medicare for all is just a stopping point for me. i don't believe in getting something for nothing. that seems to be like the way things run when you try to go that route. -- mynow we are paying wife has a severe case of legionella disease. last year we had a $50,000 bill that we wound up owing about $1700, $1800 on after everything, medicare and all of that was taken out. me it -- yeah? i'm still here.

basically it's the health care cost to the providers in the situation that causes most of the problems for people. we are making payments on that $50,000 that we go, $40,000 a month and getting by. differently, do it itlth care providers can do differently. that's really issues are in the expense that they want to charge. i understand this stuff. as got to be another solution other than medicare for all. thank you. thank you, dan. the issue came up with a house committee this week. we want to show you the comments of tom cole, the ranking republican on the rules committee. covered by c-span, here is what he had to say. [video clip]

>> this would completely change the american health care system and not, in my view, for the better. this would require all americans to pay more in taxes, wait longer for care, and received potential he worse care. even worse, it would put current medicare recipients at will risk. as it is structured now, current planients and advantage holders are by and large satisfied with the health care they receive. particularly about -- medicare advantage plans are extremely popular. this radical bill puts medicare itself at risk by enrolling millions of new recipients who have not hate into the program in the same way that current recipients have. it would reduce the quality of services and it would ban medicare advantage entirely. for current medicare recipients, medicare for all really means medicare for non-. is a socialistll proposal that threatens freedom of choice and would allow washington to oppose

one-size-fits-all plans on the american people. host: asking if you support or oppose a medicare for all type probe -- type program. if you support, (202) 748-8000. if you are opposing it, (202) 748-8001. joe biden wrapping up his first week on the campaign trail. this is on breitbart this morning, "joe biden sneaking up on donald trump, calling him a clown that is allowing jim crow racism to return to the united states. he kicked off his campaign with a string of warnings about racism and hatred rising under the trump presidency in an effort to win support from african-americans and democrats in the state." that is from bright art. i will show you the axial's reporting on that in a little bit. deeper on that, they have a headline that jim crow is .neaking back in

"a september report on the bipartisan commission of civil rights found justice department efforts to protect minority voters have declined since the 20 decision to invalidate a key provision of the landmark voting rights act and the house oversight committee is investing allegations of voter suppression ." several states from the speaker of the house, an article here from "the new york times," an interview with nancy pelosi and her guidance to the democrats and democratic candidates, "own the centerleft --risky a disputed when win.uted -- the only way to defeat trump is by kurt -- inoculating against a challenge to a clear democratic when she said during an

interview in the capital on wednesday as she discussed her concern that mr. trump would not give up power voluntarily if he lost election by a slim margin. with then her office panoramic view of the national mall, the de facto head of the party into a presidential nominee is selected offered democrats are cold-blooded plan for reading them selves of mr. trump, not to get dragged into a protracted impeachment bid that will get crushed in the republican-controlled senate and don't risk and mandating the moderate thought -- moderate voters who flocked to the party and 2018 by drifting too far to the left, own the mainstream, said ms. pelosi." texas, tony, who would oppose that medicare for all. hi there. caller: good morning. a year and a half ago my son went into the hospital. suffered from seizures and rocked in the middle of the

road. he was on medicare. my daughter-in-law overheard the doctors saying no we won't do those tests, it will cost too much money. so they didn't do the tests. she walked over the him -- to him and they said what tester you talking about. it was simple x-rays, chest x-rays. pictures of his heart. seizures was not the problem. it was his heart that caused the problem. and they didn't treat for that for three hours. they let that go. year and a half later he's in the hospital again, flat on his back, unresponsive. he's on machines everywhere. with massiveost blood clots in both of his lungs. he was diagnosed with heart disease. his heart was collapsing.

they didn't take care of him when they got his records from the first hospital he was in a year and a half earlier. they never did these x-rays. they didn't do the test on his heart. they did none of that. he had had a stroke, a massive stroke and had crashed three times on the way to the hospital. they did nothing for that kid. he died three weeks ago at the age of 48. that and it is your view those types of situations, those missed diagnoses would be worse under a medicare for all type proposal? yeah,yeah, big -- caller: they won't take care of him. the comment was saying don't run those. it was x-rays, for god sakes, all they had to do was x-rays. they didn't do them. he also had for the stage lung cancer. they could have found that. he could have been treated all this time. we will hear from michael,

next. paterson, new jersey, also opposing medicare for all. caller: yes, sir, how are you doing? i'm opposed to it because medicare, people on medicare all their life, social security, that's where medicare comes from. i like medicare advantage, i'm on it, it's good for me, but i can tell you this, they are now trying to put medicare and medicaid. you see those commercials on tv, that's state and federal. backnow you got to pay it with your doctor who has money in the bank? make you have to pay everything back? you have got to pay it back? what are they trying to do? for the oldity is people, leave it alone. you know what else? host: go ahead, what else. medicare is for people

that are my age. obama took twice the social security and gave it to unemployment and gave the two years unemployment with an extra check in the middle and he took that from social security and he never paid back that principle and we lost all that interest. host: this morning the associated press is writing about the effort to expand medicaid, gop forced governor bush to expand medicaid in kansas, the democratic governors effort to expand medicaid died on saturday when republicans vowed to the wishes of the gop legislature conservative leaders and ended the impasse that tied up the state budget. the house in kansas voted in favor of the $18.4 billion spending bill blueprint for the state government beginning in july. democrats friday and much of saturday hoped to force the senate to vote on a half by the and republicanly

leaders did not budge on it until the next year and kept meeting with gop moderates throughout the day to bring them back into the fold. let's hear from terry, next, in seattle. you support medicare for all? host: yes, i support medicare for all. yes, i support medicare for all. we should have universal health care, dental,. we are the only country in the world that doesn't have it. when i hear these people talk , we have got to wait and all of that, look at that lady that just called up prior to meet. she was talking about how her son wasn't being taking care of right? this, i don'ts see any other country trying to switch over to what we are doing. i don't see these other over medicare --

arguing over medicare. these insurance come is, i'm 69, i can think of one person that could convince me that they are doing me a favor. they are ripping people off and they are going to continue to keep ripping people off of here, just like the pharmaceuticals. putting poison in the streets, they have been doing that for decades. so, we need universal health care and, like i said, i don't see these other countries trying to switch over to what we got. host: from one coast to the other, north carolina. andrew. caller: i don't trust the federal government. they do very little well. they are going to turn our health care system, the best in the world and turn it into a dmv and i'm humored when i hear the 2020 democrats

saying the wealthy will need to pay for our system. what is wealthy? who is rich question mark who are these people who are supposed to be paying for this system? i was promised that if i liked my doctor i could keep my doctor. if i like my insurance plan i could keep my insurance plan. i don't hear any of that now. i don't trust the federal government. thank you, andrew. we showed you some of the hearing this past week in the house rules committee. the chair of the committee is jim mcgovern, of massachusetts, who brought the hearing together to look at the medicare for all proposal. here is some of what he had to say as the hearing opened. "-- opened. [video clip] >> 29 million americans are without coverage every of 44 billion people have coverage that isn't there for them when they need it.

all of us deserve health care that we can afford. without health insurance middlemen jacking up the cost and deciding who gets care. it's still true today that for too many in america, you can go broke if you get cancer. you can lose her home if your kids get sick. that's not health care being delivered as a basic human right. that's health care the remains out of reach for too many. the medicare for all act would change that. 29 million uninsured americans in our country today would get health care. 44 million underinsured people would have the peace of mind of finally knowing that their health care will be there for them when they need it. ,nd all of us, all of us seniors, students, all of us out-of-pocketrom costs. importantly, this bill would guarantee for the first time that people living with disabilities have access to the services they need to live with dignity. the medicare for all act is a serious proposal, which is why more than 100 members of

congress are cosponsors, including me and some others on this panel. not only does it deserve to be part of the discussion as we consider ways to expand and strengthen coverage, it deserves to move forward. so i hope that today is just the start. host: jim mcgovern, at the hearing this past week. longtime wyoming senator mike at sea is retiring next year. "the washington post" writes that he shared the decision at a news event at city hall and said that he had much to get done in the next year and a half, highlighting what he counts as his achievements including mine safety and pension reform, wanting to focus on budget reform without being burdened by the distractions of another campaign after this year, finding other ways to serve." low key senator

described a personal call the senator, driving the miles every .ecess and we his retirement opens up a seat in a solid republican state and focus his attention to representative liz cheney, who unsuccessfully challenged him in the 2014 election. wyoming republican said that the daughter of the former vice president is the clear front-runner if she wants it." medicare forof all, they said that people would feel freer to change jobs under the medicare for all proposal with the same insurance. host: you can send yours at --@cspanwj.

to the line for medical professionals, david, joliet, illinois. thanks for calling in. good morning. you're on the air. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm a registered nurse who worked in small hospital in joliet, illinois and i'm absolutely for medicare for all. it's a starting point that doesn't go far enough with the universal health care, single-payer. i work on the inside. i went into nursing as a second career because my family experience is to health -- to help people. i want to make a dish -- decent living of course but also to help people. eating on the inside, the greed, corruption in the hospitals and -- you know,tem is crazy and wrong. host: without giving away where you work, necessarily, what type of nursing -- you are working in a hospital now? caller: yes.

actually, i was recently laid off because they sold our unit, it was a medical psych unit, they sold it to a company out of new york. so i was laid off. have had a lot of people talk about the cost of medical care. from your ground-level view as a nurse, where do you think the culprit is? where do you think that comes from? it's the insurance companies, big pharma. doctors are caught in the middle but are part of it, too. i think that people are suffering, dying. we get a lot of patients worried about their health care bills. know, it's just terrible. it's a bad situation, you know? we need single-payer medicare for all as a starting point, but it's, the greed and corruption of the system is astounding. our hospital, a single small

hospital, the ceo makes $2 million a year and that's just wrong. i don't understand it. david, a nurse from joliet, illinois. brad is calling, a medical professional in concord, north carolina. you would oppose medicare for all? caller: definitely. people understand where want it. if you actually look at what it would be, you would have to ration care. that's what every socialized country does. they ration care. you can't go to canada and get your gallbladder out the next day. if you have gallstones you are on a waiting list for six to 12 weeks. it would be unacceptable to an american. that's not how we do things. butcan we be a free society then we are going to socialized one sector of society? people keep saying on your show

that doctors are part of the problem. well i'm a doctor. my fees are not -- i'm contracted and insurance companies dictate what things cost. great health care system with affordable health insurance. it's the health insurance that needs to be reformed and not adjusted and changed around. it's not the health care system per se. host: for you, brad, as a doctor, did was get better for you or worse under the affordable care act in terms of being able to manage or profession and make a living question mark host: -- living question mark -- living? caller: worse. i had to close my practice. i went from being a private doctor hanging my own shingle and being self-employed to you can't make that work anymore

this day and age, those things are gone. the walmart comes in and takes over. people that want universal health care, look at the v.a., they are a single-payer ration system that veterans hate. i had hundreds of veterans that came to me outside of the v.a. for their medical care and they went the one time per year when they had to to get their prescriptions renewed so they could get it a little cheaper on the prescriptions. at the v.a., you cannot get every drug. dictated whether you got this pill or that pill. that's it. caller: brad, thank you for calling in -- host: brad, thank you for calling in this morning. dan, memphis, supporting medicare for all. caller: i support medicare for all. they talk about canada and how hard it is in canada. i went to canada in the late 90's, early 2000.

am i on? host: you are on, go ahead. inler: ok, i went to canada and they were arguing about hillary clinton, you know? trying to universal health care. that's what she was trying to get. actually one of the canadians, i said -- what about this universal health care you all got appear question mark they pulled out her drivers license and he said -- i can go into any doctor in canada. back i had no problems. i said -- why is this so in america they don't want to have it? said -- you just said it. they just want you to have it.

i would get $127 in canadian. you know what the canadians did? they control all of the railroads from memphis right in the united states. host: ok, dan. herbert is next, supporting medicare for all. caller: yes, sir. all you have to do is ask the to get the same insurance of the congressmen have. i don't understand. we need medicare for all. the insurance companies will let them do it. right? . had seizures

medical marijuana stops seizures. absolute -- epilepsy, you can't get that marijuana. it's the pharmaceutical companies that want to get rich. they say they can't afford the same money as these countries and they shouldn't pay more than other people down there. these politicians are fooling people. thank you, sir, goodbye. minutes for your calls on the topic, do you support medicare for all? if you do, (202) 748-8000. (202) 748-8001 if you don't. and for medical professionals, (202) 748-8002. we showed you some of the hearing this last week and the broad outline of that proposal, which includes creating a government run plan that would include prescription drugs, hospitalization, long-term care

and dental benefits. employers could offer plans to the employees that complete with government run coverage. people now would be shifted into the new system and it wouldn't affect those covered by the v.a. and by indian health services. back to your calls in a moment. in other news this morning, on the news of the north korean testfiring, headline from "the wall street journal" this pyongyang needles washington, writing that president trump expressed confidence that kim jong-un would "do nothing to interfere with the isolated regime potential economic progress as confirmedstate media saturday morning a weapons launch that analysts say appeared to be meant to convey edspleasure over the stall nuclear talks. naples, florida, go ahead. i didn't realize you had a line specifically for health

care professionals, but i am a registered nurse here in south florida. host: great. caller: two things i wanted to say, one, there was a gentleman who was not for medicare for all and made the comment that we have the best health care here in the united states. true.omment is just not if you look at the actual outcomes, right? when we go to the doctors or the emergency room, we want to because you. that's the outcome. if not a at least 10 dozen other westernized countries who spend significantly less money on health care, yet their outcomes for their people are significantly better. that is false. we do not have the best health care here in the united states. my other comment, they partially agreed with the physician that orled three or far -- three four calls back. the biggest issue is the health insurers.

if you are a hospital and the health insurer is willing to reimburse you for a chest x-ray for a maximum $100, then the hospital is going to charge $100 because they know they will be to that amount. if nothing else i would like to see the u.s. government exert more control over private with the absolute maximum on the chest x-ray like this year being 2019 it's $100 but guess what medicare will be 95 and the year after that it will be 90 two force all of these providers to become more efficient with the resources that they have. so, if people don't want medicare for all, which i guess is just semantics. i consider it to be universal coverage, at least we need to have the government taking

greater control over how much is being charged for every test and every procedure, whatever the case may be. host: gail is next in california. good morning. i opposed to medicare for all. one of the reasons i'm opposed to it is the huge amount of fraud that goes on in the system. if an illegal alien shows up in an emergency room, we have got to give them full care? known of people that have taught their children to not behave at school properly so that they can get their anddren on ssi benefits full medical benefits. until we get rid of the fraud, we will never get the cost under control. people don't realize that

like ancan come, illegal immigrant, to the united states and within five years they qualify for social security and medicare. right, americans should be taken care of first. until we get the fraud under control, that's a big part of it. host: all right. here is melvin from fort lauderdale, florida, who supports medicare for all. melvin, hi there. these people saying they get news from c-span, but these people are getting information from out of the world somewhere. the lady talking about people who come from other countries to get medicare? citizen,e not a u.s. you are not eligible for that, i don't care where they come from. when you start talking about

rational care in the united doctor,when you go to a i've got a doctor, the best medical plan since i have become an adult in the government, yearsement since i was 21 old, everyone, if you go to a doctor and you need some type of surgery that can be weighted that's not an emergency, you are put on a wait list. two months, three months until it's open. if it's a burden, yes, that's anywhere you go. an emergency has to be a life-threatening situation that's happening. the individual who said he was a doctor and he was getting people from the v.a. because of the prescriptions? the v.a. gets every prescription they want to. those guys get so many prescriptions, they give it away. it's a single-payer, they don't pay anything. their payment was that they were

in the military and therefore they are getting free service. you have to challenge these people make the ridiculous statements. and 48 years old, the lady said? need to start checking, you can't be on medicare at 48. this is ridiculous stuff. calling in,you for melvin. we are talking about medicare for all. it is not clear when specific legislation will be coming to the house floor, but the issue itself came before the committee this past week. from members of congress and individuals affected by health care in the u.s., including addie barkin, als, makingying of the case for medicare for all at tuesday's hearing. here's what he said. >> the ugly truth is that health care is not treated as a human right in the united states of america.

this fact is outrageous and it is far past time that we change it. saying aloud for the people in the back, health care is a human right. for my family, although we have comparatively good private health insurance, als now means paying out-of-pocket for almost one of four hour homecare. this costs us $9,000 every month. the alternative is for me to go on medicare and move into a nursing home away from my wife and my son, so we are cobbling together the money from friends and family and supporters all over the country. to runs is an absurd way a health care system. gofundme is a terrible substitute for smart congressional action. like so many others, rachel and i have had to fight with our insurer, which has issued outrageous denials instead of covering the benefits that we paid for. we have so little time left together, yet our system forces us to to wasted dealing with

bills and bureaucracy. that is why i am here today, urging you to build a more rational, fair, efficient, and effective system. i am here today to urge you to an act to medicare for all. host: all of that hearing is c-span.org, type of medicare in the search box. a couple of stories this morning about facebook. front page of "the new york times," a severe penalty awaits facebook, but how severe question might they ranked the announcement in late april that they had set aside $3 billion to $5 billion to settle claims that it had mishandled personal data from users, suggesting a strong consensus from federal regulators that the social media giant needed to be held realityble, but the behind the scenes at the federal trade commission is far more complicated, reflecting the politics and the give-and-take of the negotiations.

some ofd a story about facebook's moves late last week in terms of tanning individuals, this is "the washington times" this morning, trump monitoring and watching social media after the alex jones ban. andrew blake writes that in the alexof the banning of jones, president trump on saturday questioned why mainstream news outlets critical of his administration are permitted to operate on social networking sites like twitter and facebook. the new york times, washington post, allowed to be on twitter and facebook? much of what they do is fake news. you can read more of that at

"washington times.com." kansas city, opposing medicare for all. caller: yes, sir, we already have medicare for all, i don't know what the debate is a -- is about. you work your but off for 45 years in you get medicare. that's what these people need to realize. they don't deserve it, you have to work for it. the guy from florida? he goes to the va hospital to get some care and tell me it's free. i have to pay $50 every time i go to the doctor and for every prescription it's $15. he doesn't know what he's talking about at the same time he's telling everybody else they don't know it there talk about. think you very much. steve, next up, supporting medicare for all. good morning. great conversation. i'm really kind of staggered, you can't really do this but it would be interesting to ask the people who call in and say --

hey, i've got my medicare, but the care is bad for people, but you can have it because you have an earned it says you haven't worked, i would always put it under the category of what would jesus do. the bible is all full of jesus healing people. he wasn't going -- hey, how much money can you give me? not only that, our system is not only saying how much money can you give me, they are charging incredible profits on top of the care. it's just a system that is crushing people. i know some of the that this week died because they could not afford their medicines. is that christian? we need medicare for all. we need president bernie sanders -- let me tell people, let me tell everyone out there this, like the people that say keep your hands off my medicare? if we had medicare for all in this country, you wouldn't you able to take it away because the people would say -- you are not

taking it. the same is true in england. or any of these countries that have it. if you went in and said -- we want to give you the american system, they would run you out of the country. why is that? they don't like the ripped off. it's time for bernie sanders, it's time for medicare for all, it's time for christians to start acting like christians, including tom cole, and embarrassment oklahoma. thank you, steve. lee, french lake, indiana, opposing medicare for all. caller: thank you for taking my call. some people fail to realize that the government is already doing social programs. one is social security, the other is medicare that we presently have. both of those seem to be running out of money. on top of that we won it for the whole country. at the same time, we want to put the health insurance companies

and industry completely out of business. once they are gone, they won't be back. even now, if you go to a doctor, who arector and youthere are ds refusing medicare patients right now. that is not under medicare for all. going to pay are for this plan i taxing the wealthy. the wealthy do not have to stay in this country. they can take their money and move out of the state. they can take their businesses and relocate them to another country where you are not going to be able to tax them. host: lee in indiana. more of your calls ahead. we will talk to the national organization for women president, toni van pelt, to talk about the push to pass the equal rights amendment. advisor, former trump

stan gorka -- sebastian gorka. kathy castor is the sponsor of the climate resolution now. she has the chair of the select committee on the climate crisis. she talked to reporters about extracting oil on public lands. [video clip] candidates, beto o'rourke and elizabeth warren, have put out a climate plan. one of the more controversial elements of their plan is that they would been all -- they would ban all fossil fuel development on public land. do you support the idea? >> we are going to examine that in the climate crisis committee. what scientists are telling us is that we have got to cut our carbon pollution dramatically.

have a justing to transition, especially for communities across the countries that have -- across the country that have a lot of jobs in fossil fuels, it does not make a lot of sense to expand extraction, especially on public lands. it is anng to be -- important issue moving forward in the context of how we cut our carbon solution. that mean it could be legislation or included as one of your demands in any sort of infrastructure deal with the president? >> the charge of the select policyee is to develop recommendations by next year. that gives us time to take a look at it. a lot of the committees now are on the front lines of turning back the damage that the trump administration is doing to our clean air and clean water.

i will highlight the fact that they are rolling back safety regulations that would prevent another bp oil bro out -- bp oil blowout. defense tolittle play in the little offense to play -- and a little offense to play. host: newsmakers is this morning at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern. joining us this morning is toni van pelt. she is the president of the national organization of women. here with us this morning to talk about the efforts to pass the equal rights amendment. what is behind the driving of this? guest: the national organization for women have made the amendment being enshrined and in our constitution a core issue. it was passed out of the congress in 1972.

it went to the states for ratification. , onebrought it back is woman's great efforts in nevada. it was the right thing to do, she will tell you. 41%evada, they finally have of nevada legislators became women. she introduced it in 2015. by 2017, they passed it out of nevada. in illinois, with the help of the grassroots members and activists of the national organization for women, we ratified it again in illinois. one states us to short of complete ratification and actually having women enshrined in our national constitution. host: the stumbling block is the original time has run out, isn't it? caller: that is artificial -- guest: that is artificial. they wanted to put up as many stumbling blocks as they could.

there was never a timeline written into any other constitutional amendment. we think it is something that can easily be overturned by our current congress. host: to reset where we are with equal rights amendment, as toni van pelt said, it was passed by congress in 1972. it needed approval of the legislation by march of 1979. 35 states had approved by 1977. by 1970 eight, congress had extended the deadline to 1982. fell three votes short of ratification. nevada and illinois have ratified. where are the next hopeful areas? guest: in our view, it would be virginia. the fifth session by one vote to bring it out of committee and bring it to

finally the house of delegates. virginia, the house is up for reelection in 2019. we are going to be working on electoral politics in virginia to bring more feminist women and men. we hope to put us -- to pass it. it is really a ratification. host: that means it needs to pass. the guest: senate. -- and the senate. host: here's how we are going to break the lines up this morning to talk about the e.r.a. and to talk with toni van pelt. is the number for women. for men, the number is (202) 748-8001. it is not only before several states, what with the new democratic house, it is before the demo -- it is before the congressional committee. congress hold his first equal

rights mma hearing in 36 years -- equal rights amendment hearing in 36 years. the subcommittee held the first hearing in 36 years. members want a time requirement to be stripped from the language. congress passed the e.r.a. in 1972 but failed to earn the backing of enough registers -- of enough legislators. on capitol hill, the effort is to extend the deadline. with the democratic support in the house, that would be fairly easy. the challenge would be in the senate. guest: i do not think it is a matter of extension. it is a matter of doing away with it. the two congresses that put this artificial deadline on the amendment can extend it and hold congress to the deadline. it is a dead issue. it is another fight against the patriarchy.

there are men in congress who want to keep control. this isu mentioned that the only amendment offered in the constitution that had a timed deadline. guest: an artificial timeline put on it. that is right. we have had a constitutional amendment that was 200 years once it was passed before it was ratified by the states that were required. host: and that was the one that was -- there was one that was recently passed. guest: i think it had to do with the congress pay raise. host: take us back to the timeframe, the creation of the amendment, the initial passage of the amendment. why do you think it was given a timeline? guest: i think it is a power struggle. it is another way to stand in the way of women being written into the constitution and being afforded constitutional legal

protection that the men are afforded. we know that women were not put in the constitution on purpose. our founders chose not to do that on purpose. husband,dams told her who was one of the original signers of the constitution that he needed not to forget women. he said back to her, we are not going to bring women into the constitution. we are not going to give them the same legal status as men. host: what would you say to people who say that a number of things have been passed by congress and times have changed, we have equal pay legislation, the lilly ledbetter legislation. why is the legislation needed now? guest: that is a big reason just their. even though we have the lilly ledbetter, all that did was bring us back to where we were. that is what is so crucial to the equal rights amendment. one another body comes in and they want to discriminate against women,. balls can be changed.

. they cannot be sourced proper -- laws can be changed. if we have a constitutional right for women, that is what is going to be helpful for us. equal pay, even though she had -- although ball did was to restart where we were at the passing of the equal pay act. tot is why women today have work until april 30 to make the same amount of money white men did on december 31 of last year. lines, call -- our lines, if you are women -- if you are a woman, call (202) 748-8000. if you are a man, (202) 748-8001 . caller: i am the legislative director of louisiana now. i am the head of the e.r.a. coalition.

successfully gotten the e.r.a. out of the senate committee. it is coming up for a senate floor vote this week. guest: what do you think your chances are? caller: optimistically hopeful. guest: the important thing about bringing it to the floor, we know who is really with us. arizona, there were a few legislators who said they were for the e.r.a., that they would vote for the e.r.a.. they finally got it to the point where there was a boat. some of the left -- there was a vote. that is important for all of us. when we come to reelect in our legislative officials. keep on. you are doing a great job. host: can i ask, what has the reception been like among the members of the louisiana legislature? caller: anything from i cannot

vote for this because i'm yeah.fe to heck, guest: that is one of those red herrings that the people who do not want women to become first-class citizens use. the abortion argument. abortion is enshrined in the constitution. a woman's right to decide what to do with her body is in the constitution. there are laws that are restricting that. and equal rights amendment would not change that. we are using current law to stop some of those bad laws. host: we will go to mark in new york city. guest: good morning. enjoy your discussion. i happen to teach constitutional law. i am looking at my constitution. the 20th, 21st, and 22nd amendment dealing with term limits for the president, all have seven-year deadlines.

there -- i was a little surprised to hear this is the only amendment that ever had a deadline. that is inaccurate. guest: you mean for ratification? caller: that is right. right there in the constitution. amendment 20, 21, and 22. they have a seven year deadline. guest: they are in the constitution already and they have a deadline on them? caller: in the constitutional provision, the amendment is not valid unless it is approved in seven years. guest: but it has been approved. that is -- is that what you are saying? article five of the constitution does not set deadlines for the constitution. me turn the point. when you start talking about the boys and the patriarchs, your undermining your cause.

-- you are undermining your cause. you try to get support for -- from people. the tone of this is very offputting. i think it is very inappropriate. guest: it sounds like it is offputting for you personally. this informs us to where your thinking goes. host: the issue came up before a committee as we pointed out on the equal rights amendment and the judiciary subcommittee. in that hearing, representative , the ranking republican from louisiana talked about his opposition to the e.r.a. i want to play what he had to say. here is mike johnson. [video clip] >> the subcommittee holds another hearing on the e.r.a., which will have to be passed by congress and the states under the supermajority requirements before it becomes a part of the

constitution. it should not become a part of the constitution, many of us believe for a number of reasons. the bipartisan amendment prohibits the use of federal funds for abortions except in cases of rape and interest. -- rape and incest. the people's right to protect the unborn would be eliminated if the e.r.a. were to pass. 1980's,arly representative sensenbrenner requested that the congressional research service provide the committee with its own question. markup, then the executive summary of the report says that under strict scrutiny, the classification would be regarded to be a sex classification under the e.r.a., meaning that if the e.r.a. were to become part of our law, restrictions on abortion would be struck down. response? is your

guest: in terms of the amendment, i think that again, the laws that we have in place have kept the hyde amendment in place. i had no him not -- i am not a loyal. that is not -- i am not a lawyer. this is about writing women into our constitution. giving us legal protection against sex discrimination. we could not be discriminated against just because we were women. one of the things about pregnancy discrimination, many women are fired because they are pregnant. if you want to talk about whether women have self autonomy, we have to talk about the full-spectrum, which would include birth control, women that want to keep their pregnancies and not be forced into having abortions. all of these things are important to women. they should be up to women.

that is the way it should be, whether we have an equal rights amendment or not. host: our guest is toni van pelt , president of the national organization for women. it is carl next in jacksonville, texas. caller: good morning. i have been listening. fromis what i am hearing whatever. you are all about women's rights. please not tell my wife about this because -- please do not tell my wife about this because she is living in this illusion that she has every right in the world that i do. i have never seen women oppressed -- maybe it is because i live in the great state of texas. we treat our women like queens. it sounds to me like the only thing you are concerned about is women have the right and the men

do not because if a women -- if a woman gets pregnant and the man wants to keep the child and the woman says no, it is my body, i am going to do what i want to, you are violating the right of the father of the child to be able to have life. basically, what you are saying to dominate women the world. who the and choose winners and losers are. when you said we are hopeful that virginia is going to be the state that gets full ratification, that is when you lost the conversation with me because everyone knows virginia is willing to take the child out of the womb and kill it. host: we will get a response from toni van pelt. guest: thank you so much.

i would like to go right back to what you started with. the majority of the country believes women are written into our constitution. certainly, we agree with your wife at the national organization of women that women should end you have the same rights as men. what is -- should and do have the same rights as women. legally, sexist, nation is sexist in -- legally, scrim a nation is allowed. my parents told me i have the same rights as men as a girl. i believe that. when i got out into the work world, i found out that in so many areas, that was not true. i felt like my parents had lied to me. as i matured, i understood where they were coming from. they gave me the foundation to be as assertive and aggressive as i am today in calling out male patriarchy and the fact

that women are treated as second-class citizens. i can tell you from personal experience that when i was married, credit cards were taken out of my name. women were not allowed to have credit cards. that is one example for how women were treated as the property of men. host: last year, virginia's hopes of e.r.a. ratification go down in flames. this happened in 2018. he pointed to an effort for proposal last year in the virginia legislature dealing with abortion. how high off the climb is it for your efforts to get the e.r.a. passed in virginia? it is as tough as it has been every year. -- the lastery hard election in virginia, we took 14 seats. we were looking to take six seats to elect feminist

progressive candidates. won.tually -- we actually one overwhelmingly. virginia in 2019. i think we are going to get the equal rights amendment ratification in 2020. host: let's hear from kim in orlando, florida. caller: good morning. this is an important conversation. and i dideration xer, not realize i was not in the constitution. it was not until i experience workplace to skim and nation. i was pregnant -- until i experienced work place discrimination. i was pregnant and fired. my supervisor said it was because i was pregnant. i know a firefighter who is a woman who has no access to appropriate size safety gear

men's. it is only in firefighters think that 95% of firefighters are men. they do not have appropriate sizes for women. i think it is a credit -- it is incredibly important to have the e.r.a. as far as the issue of having women -- it is not about forcing women to do something. it is about having general equality. i appreciate this conversation. i think it is critical because women do not want something extra. women want equality. i would like to ask, how do you think it would change the walls to -- the laws to make it easier for discrimination to be proven? how would women benefit from equality? guest: what would happen is that

the equal rights amendment would uniforma permanent national standard that would disallow government at all levels to discriminate based on sex. to discriminate a win -- just giving it against women. it would lift -- two discriminate against women. when women bring these lawsuits forward, as you are talking about, that was a great example about the firefighters. host: the safety gear. guest: everything in this country is based on the standard of men. what a reasonable man would do. a reasonable woman might not do the same thing. we are raised in a different way. all of those standards, you would have to consider how women think and feel. it is important to bring women

to the table. the e.r.a. will help us with that. host: the new york times wrote in a piece about this commission and how the -- about discrimination. the dean of the law school at uc berkeley rights that the supreme court struck down -- they write that many laws against scrim and nation -- many laws against discrimination -- the court ruled it did not apply in the case of sexual violence. this would change with an equal rights amendment. guest: what a relief that would be. so many women are violated, they are raped, they are beaten up in their homes. in other thing we are interested in doing is reauthorizing the violence against women act. it would be helpful for that. host: let's hear from ralph in new york. caller: good morning. i am a uaw worker from upstate

new york with a question. guest, the for your showed, the clause you you think there should be a second clause saying to the effect that the amendment should be a enforced deck should be enforced with appropriate legislation? -- should be enforced with appropriate legislation? guest: that is in the equal rights amendment. it is the second section. that the government would review -- i cannot think of the exact language. host: if it were passed, it would touch on all sorts of things. you mentioned to violence against women act. other laws that deal with areas of this termination against women -- areas of discrimination against women. guest: you go into the house and on the second floor, you have to

go downstairs to the first floor if you are a woman to go to a restroom that they created for the women in the congress. they did not have restrooms for women in our capital building. when we have our conferences, we have to take over the men's restroom because they are not enough stalls in the women's restroom. this is another way that women are to skim. host: think that happened with the influx of women into the senate. good to helen in michigan. caller: hi, how are you? it is nice to see you. things. few i am going to switch today's up a little bit. it might be a little funny. one thing for real is, i do believe that we should have our own rights to our own bodies, women. not that i would ever want to have an abortion.

i am way too old for that anyway. i hate that they keep saying babies.en are killing it is such a lie. let's flip the switch. rapist,t every pedophilia, any person like that, how about if we switch and say, you get snipped? how would they feel? how would men feel if we had that right to put that on them? let's take back the power and say hey, if you do not like it, we are going to snip your little wee wee. let's take away your viagra. how would you like that? host: thank you for the call.

chris next in strasberg, new york. do you want to make a comment? first ofwant to say all, thank you for lifting that up. back to our health care and bringing up viagra, viagra is covered in health care plans where birth control is not. we are seeing the patriarchy and those leaders in place. they have stopped health care plans from covering birth control for women. we see that disparage where women are being discriminate against because they are women -- are being discriminated against because they are women. hi, one question or a couple comments is, why does everybody turn to the government to solve the problems?

maybe you called against -- called about sexual discrimination based on pregnancy. her boss fired her. we already have a system for that. it is called the court system. she would take that to the court and fight it in court. it is already there. you do not need a law for everything. all, you talked about the economy of women. law atgoing to make a the federal level, the -- that stripsel the economy from the state, which our constitution -- if you go to the articles of the founding, fathers principles. it starts with the autonomy of the state and the individual. i agree with you there.

it is the economy of the individual. host: we will get a response from toni van pelt. guest: i do want to inform the have equal 25 states rights -- have passed the equal rights a moment. host: a state version. guest: a state version or partial version. that is half of the states. polls have past shown strong support for the equal rights amendment to be written into the constitution. -- 82 tofrom 80 to 95% 95%. so many people believe that women are already written into the constitution, which is not true. i'm happy to say to your first point that you agree with us. this could be about the court. this would give women constitutional legal protection

so that lawmakers could not pass laws that would discriminate against women. we are not talking about individual cases. we are talking about a system of oppression. this happens to all women across the board. not just individual women in individual cases. host: let's hear from sharon in south carolina. caller: good morning. i am enjoying your conversation this morning. i would like to add a comment that many jobs that i have worked, the culture is still there. you are sexually harassed, you make less money. i went through a situation where i was sexually assaulted. member came in when i made the report. d it out. -- he white it was so egregious that they

told me i would have to contact congress. when it comes to pay, we do not get paid. raise, women to are discriminated against. when it comes to our bodies, they want to tell us what to do. it is another form of oppression. it has been around since the beginning of this country. women had to fight to vote. they had to fight for wages. we have to fight for our children. we have to do it all. the only time you do not hear this stuff about you know, a man will come out and say i am pro-life. when they need our votes. when they want christian women who they think will support them. we are ultimately being played. i am so glad to know that the equal rights are still being fought for. i really appreciate you. we are going to keep on going

until we get this thing right. go to the polls. you have a right to say what you want to do with your body. we can do it at the ballot box. if we cannot do it at the job, we can do it at the ballot box. guest: i have to say and point out that those who are opposed to women's self a ton of me are not -- they do not care about women. or women's lives. . when they say they are pro-life, they do not mean that they are for protecting the lives of women. they are talking about protecting the lives of a fetus, an embryo, an egg. as opposed to a woman. this is not, this cannot stand. when i was seven years old, my mother was getting ready to give birth to her fourth child. she was told that when she birth her second child, her life would be in danger if she were pregnant again.

my father had to get permission from the hospital, two doctors, and appear before a judge in the state of ohio as my mother was being rolled into delivery of her fourth child to get permission from all of these men tubewhat they called her sized so that her life would not be in danger. it is wrong. it has to stop. from theook at the map kansas city star. the e.r.a. ratification map. in red are states that have not ratified the e.r.a.. we talked about virginia. we had a color from louisiana. -- theite about birthplace of the most powerful opponent. no closer to ratification. among the states we are showing, outside of virginia and

louisiana, and other hopeful once? guest: the movement is in north carolina. george is excited about what is going on. -- georgia is excited about what is going on. in those states, the gerrymandering of the districts elected,eople that are it is gerrymandered by the republicans towards the conservatives. we have voter suppression going on. we have gerrymandering going on. these are the things we have to change so that we can get progressive voices to the table and further our constitution and liberty and the democracy of this country. host: we will get a couple of calls. first up is anthony of las vegas. caller: how are y'all doing this morning? referenced pat spearman as a champion.

am i correct? yes, senatoret -- pat spearman of nevada. caller: i know who pat spearman is. i oppose this because this is not just about men and women. also and it is being left out of the country, transgender rights. i do not know why that is being left out of the discussion about ratifying the amendment. i have already looked this up. i want to ask the lady a question. ratification, if a young man who is in high school identified as a woman or play would he be able to on a high school team with girls? yes or no. i will take your comment offline. guest: that would not be up to

me. that was -- that is up to the sporting community. this does not have anything much to do with the equal rights amendment. this is another red herring. we need to stay focused. we are talking about the rights of women. we are talking about the rights of all women to be written into our constitution and no longer treated as property and to become full citizens of this country. host: here is julie next in yonkers in new york. i do not have julie. go ahead. lost you. let's see what we can do. julie, we will try one more time. caller: hello. can you hear me? host: yes we can. appreciative that

-- is fighting for suffrage. i believe it is necessary. part of the fight for suffrage includes not just the right to vote but the right to have a vote. hand marked paper ballots. the denial of the right of impose touchscreen machines and the update of hand and theaper ballots guest: right to recount. guest:i completely agree. i think that is so important. we know that technology fails is frequently. that is something that must be looked up. this is a very important point. range of issues that the e.r.a. is voting on,

where does it rank for your ratification? guest: it is one of our core principles. it is right up with the others that we fight for on a daily basis. host: one more call. south carolina. caller: hi there. thank you all for having this opportunity. what the e.r.a. does for transgender individuals. i am a transgender. birth. female at i was just curious, what type of help would be given? thank you so much. thank you for speaking out. the equal rights amendment would bring constitutional -- constitutionally quality to everybody. this is focused on women. women were explicitly written out of the constitution.

gender identity is something that has been in the shadows for as long as we have been around. thank you for your call. we will be working for you. president van pelt, of the national organization for women. thank you so much for being with us. guest: thank you for having me. host: more of your calls coming up next. we are going to ask about the deadline. we are -- your thoughts on the molar report. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. coming up, former trump advisor sebastian gorka will be here to talk about his former boss's reelection strategy in 2020. is c-span cities tour traveling to palo alto, california on book tv. today at 2:00 p.m. eastern, all

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general to respond to his letter -- testifying before the house judiciary committee. we welcome your calls and comments. for democrats, (202) 748-8000. for republicans, (202) 748-8001. for all others, (202) 748-8002. here is the roll call headline. judiciary democrat has delivered a final warning to william barr to comply with the subpoena for the full robert mueller report or face contempt of congress proceedings. chairmaner, judiciary jerrold nadler gave the justice department a 9:00 a.m. deadline to respond to his letter, affirming he will comply with the subpoena.

to negotiate in good faith to reach a reasonable accommodation. so far, the department of justice has stiffed the committee, citing legal statutes that restrict the attorney general from handing over information and claiming that the committee does not have a legitimate reason to demand such information. that is from roll call. you can read more about that at roll call.com. we have linked to the letter at our website at c-span.org. the letter from the chairman of the judiciary committee, jerrold nadler. let's go to our democrats line. massachusetts. this is barbara. caller: good morning. wanting to refer your producers to a segment that happened 10 minutes ago on msnbc on the david gora program.

what they were honing in on was the relationship between the three branches of government and coming to the conclusion that congress has a weak hand at this point. they are heading to the judiciary to hopefully write the ballot and there was a discussion about how the judiciary has played in during the course of the presidency. the thought that occurred to me was that, going back to the discussion about how the kent star investigation led to the changes that led to the special counsel instead of the independent counsel, that is an example of where the law was changed out of a profound national experience. therefore, the role of congress is to look at this episode when it is over and see what could

happen or what would be better again. and attempt to legislate again just as the democrats have been saying. trying to take this 30,000 foot view, that would be helpful to lower everyone's blood pressure. not that mine has not been on the ceiling for two years as a democrat and upholder of the rule of law, which i think is the important thing. at the end of the segment, they talk about educating the public. me call you made this morning. you have a fantastic contribution to make in terms of educating the public on the basic civic entities. so many people are completely uneducated about all these pieces. they are on the outside looking in. they want to know what is going on.

we need to teach them piece by piece. that is the end. thank you for listening. host: thank you for pointing that out. i believe yesterday, we heard the judiciary testimony that william barr made. coming up this morning, we are going to air the breeze house judiciary -- the brief house judiciary meeting. the threat of the contempt of congress. that is coming up this morning i believe. after newsmakers at about 10:30 eastern. look for that here on c-span. let's go to kenneth in diamond, missouri. caller: good morning. thank you for letting me get on the air. realize,yone does not attorney general william barr fallen to testify -- attorney general william barr volunteered

to testify. when you're trying to subpoena him, that is not valid. you have to subpoena him first. since he volunteered to come and testify before jerry nadler and the rest of the house and senate tomittees, he does not have unless they subpoena him no to do it again -- unless they subpoena him now to do it again. he has within his rights to ignore the neither investigation. -- the jerry nadler investigation. host: rockets fired from gaza into israel. militants fired more than 250 rockets into israel on saturday. israel responded with airstrikes and -- and artillery, adding weeks of efforts to forge a long-term truth -- ending weeks

of efforts to forge a long-term truce. netanyahu saying he is pledging massive strikes in gaza in the third day of the border flareup. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. .epublicans, (202) 748-8001 for all others, (202) 748-8002. the deadline for the attorney general to meet the request of the house judiciary meeting coming up at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. this is frank from north carolina. turn down your television. go ahead with your comments. frank in salisbury, north carolina. caller: i am here. host: go ahead with your comments. caller: i think they should come out with the full report.

that, theey do democrats are still going to look for some kind of witchhunt to carry this on. democrats that the except -- and accept and quit which hunting for something else that is not going to hold light. that is my,. appreciate -- that is my comment. appreciate it. host: illinois, becky on the democrats line. caller: i disagree with that man totally. who i want to see testify is robert mueller. is not credible. i want to see the full robert mueller report given to congress

to review. that is why it was done. we have waited two years to see the result. the judicial and executive branches- executive are obviously not going to look at it obviously -- obviously not going to look at honestly. that is what i want to see. i want to see them get the full report. host: next up, plattsburgh, new york. robert. caller: thank you for taking my call. should noty general have to go and testify. he already volunteered to testify. look at what the democrats have done to him. they have tried to hang him out to dry. it is a witchhunt. i wish we could move on and get our country back together. work together as a congress and senate.

i cannot think the democrats are going to allow it. with jerry nadler and shift and the rest of them, they want to take over power like they did 10 years ago. if they do not stop doing what own peopleing, their are going to turn against them. witchhuntto stop the and going after our president. he is doing a great job. he is the best president we have had in 60 years. going right back to kennedy. behind thets are assassination for that. i am sorry -- host: he said the democrats are behind the kennedy assassination -- you said the democrats are behind the kennedy assassination? caller: the cia and that -- host: getting us a little bit off topic. nadler ined jerrold

the letter written by jerrold nadler friday to william barr. part of that says -- chairman nadler writes that the department halved -- the department has never explained why it allowed members to review a less redacted version of the report. the department also remains unwilling to work with the committee to obtain a court order. the department has offered no reason for failing to produce the evidence except for a complaint that there is too much of it in a vague assertion of the sensitivity of law enforcement files. mechanicsburg, pennsylvania. independent line. john? mechanicsburg, pennsylvania. do not think they

should have attorney general william barr do anymore more than they have already done. anybody who has watched the hearing in the senate and , they wereppened bickering between sides. the attorney general is going to investigate the investigators. that is what is going on over the next two years. william barr is going to be looking into how to this whole thing start. what you have got in front of you in those congressional committees is a circus where they are trying to make william barr look like some kind of bad guy. soy're trying to stain him when he does future investigations, they can throw this back on him and say you were in contempt of congress. you did not follow our rules. this is a full show for the american people to watch so they

attacked the current attorney general so as he does his investigations, they will have dirt to thrown him and say what he is doing is illegal. host: let's go to bobby in houston, texas. caller: i think the full report needs to be released. report?release the it is obvious the president and attorney general william barr are hiding something. it is obvious the attorney general is not the attorney for the people. he is protecting the president. this is a democracy. this is not a dictatorship. host: let's take a look at this week's washington examiner magazine. trump's acting troupe. a team of temporaries gives the president flexibility and skirts

the senate. he writes that with the ,esignation of kirstjen nielsen a fifth of the cabinet level executive agencies were headed by active -- by acting tech or cherries. secretaries. the investigation could have happened under and acting attorney general were it not for the confirmation of william barr who had previously held the office during the george w. bush administration. his status as a narrator was challenged by democrats and some republicans. megan is next up in indiana. caller: good morning. i'm calling because i wanted to comment about all of -- about this robert mueller report. ants on rate -- in 95% of parted form,

one, it is unredacted. these committee members, the heads of the committees have the ability to review it. they have not done so. if they want the report released, i do not think that is the case. i think they want more toormation they can use collude with the media to effect the 2020 election. host: here is the critical part of the letter in terms of the deadline for the attorney general. the committee is prepared to make any realistic effort to reach an accommodation with the department. if the department persists in its refusal to comply with the subpoena, the committee will remove -- will move to contempt proceedings.

we respond -- we request a response by 9:00 a.m. on monday. this is rob in missouri. democrats -- independent line. caller: i have a novel idea. senator hillary clinton testified for 11 hours for benghazi. that was a real witchhunt. andnot donald trump come in testify for 11 hours and explain what is really going on? forget william barr and robert mueller. why don't we have mr. trump, here and testify in front of the american people and testify -- and answer questions for 11 hours? thank you. host: coming up next, we will talk with former trump advisor sebastian gorka to talk about his former boss's reelection strategy in 2020 and other issues facing the trump administration when washington turned -- when washington journal resumes in just a little

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scholar herod. will share their perspectives on c-span's new book, the presidents, tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. "washington journal" continues. host: we are joined this morning by sebastian gorka, former deputy assistant to president trump. syndicatedost, nationwide, here to talk about the presidential strategy in the 2020 campaign good will left off the last segment discussing the deadline facing the attorney general. you -- where do you think the issue stands in the administration's point of view?

guest: it is very clear. the fact that jerry nadler in special asking that the counsel report on bill clinton not be released, that the people special counsel legislation that reports cannot be released unredacted, the same people are saying give it to us all. it would be illegal for attorney general barr to give an unredacted report. this is done in bad faith. it is a circus. at the end of the day, those who have clearances like jerry nadler can go to doj. they can read the full report. this is political circus. host: do you think it is a

preamble for the judiciary committee setting up impeachment proceedings? guest: they have nothing else. what else are they going to campaign on? we have the strongest economy. we had the lowest unemployment for blacks and hispanics. anywhere you look, there is this psychotic demand for impeachment of one of the most successful presidents of the modern age, and they go after anyone who represents him. it shows a lack of any campaign that the democrats can run on. the idea that impeachment will resonate across america. it is a nonstarter. host: you said you were there in the white house. they did it to you. why did you leave the white house? guest: i made it clear. my resignation to the president is available fully at right part.com. -- breitbart.com.

the then national security adviser had issues with what we were doing with the president. the people who were loyal to the being boxedwere out. steve bannon had resigned while i was on vacation. i had to make a tough decision. battlingstay out here, h.r. mcmaster, or should i represent the present from the outside? could president trump i support you more from the outside. he agreed. i can serve the president inside and outside. we stay in touch. things are much better than they were in july of 2017. host: does he reach out with a phone call? guest: i went to the oval. i am writing my next book. i went to interview the president. he calls me when he needs advice or when he sees me on television. host: your latest book is why we

fight, defeating america's enemies with no apology. .emocrats (202) 748-8000 republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. you are there under h.r. mcmaster. nn and mcmaster. host: now it is john bolton. had served in the state department, served as u.s. ambassador, how do his views align with president trump's? guest: there is a lot of misrepresentation of john in the so-called mainstream media. heoint out to an interview gave with fox, a very telling interview where he was asked what is your relationship going to be like with the president?

powerful story. how did that individual get along so well with his president. he said, at the end of the day, i serve the president, and i understand he was elected. i was not. john bolton is not trying to pitch his stuff to the president. he is doing what the national security advisor is supposed to do, provide the president options, make recommendations based upon them, and allow the president to make the decision. that is what a national security advisor should be doing, unlike h.r. mcmaster, who was trying to pitch his ideas to the president, who said that is not your job. the president has a number of major foreign-policy issues. the most recent one this week was venezuela, making the headline at the washington post, juan guaido admits errors in

uprising. where do you think the president is thinking on this? is he getting calls for a more muscular military intervention on behalf of the u.s.? guest: if you look at what he is saying on social media, it is clear the american people have to understand this is not an interventionist president. his first reaction is bring our boys home. we have spent trillions on stupid wars. the idea that they are going to deploy the 82nd airborne to caracas is ridiculous. we want all countries to have governments that will represent the will of the people. maduro is a murdering dictator. we would like the american body politic to see a representative government in venezuela.

what did mike pompeo say this week? make sure the jet is warmed up on the runway, mr. maduro. about thetalked economy, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. what is the international plank the president runs on? guest: america first. we will collaborate. we do collaborate. whatever issue it is, it has to be measured on what is good for america verse. especially entree. thatve signed trade deals are bad for american workers. look at these figures, 260,000 jobs created in april. the fastest-growing sector are blue-collar manufacturing, those jobs that obama said will never come back. i guess president trump must have a magic wand because those jobs are coming back.

host: republican line, this is harry. you are on with sebastian gorka. caller: how you doing? a couple quick remarks. i would like to see mueller go through a full investigation. three other people have to go under oath and testify. i think it is going to lead to obama and clinton. three people should testify under oath who claimed for two years they had proof. that will be not learned, shift -- be nadler and schiff. obama under oath and find out he has been doing some spine, maybe he will get some jail time. all of them need to be under oath. i think mueller is the guy to do it. he will have to tell the truth. he will. that is my remark. guest: how to disagree? the real scandal today is the

two years ofhave concerted effort to distract the american people from the fact that the obama administration with the white house, the white house is in control, the president wants to be briefed, fbi, thehe cia, the doj, potentially the nsa involved in the politically motivated spying of a political campaign. it was a presidential campaign. they have been trying to get ahead of the scandal right now. article two times days ago that they were having multiple fbi assets. assets.does not have there is something much deeper here. we had human assets inserted by the obama administration into a

political campaign. million wasted to demonstrate there is no collusion. by the this scandal obama administration that makes watergate look like a tiff. host: is there any internal investigation? guest: attorney general barr is not to be trifled with. it is an lightning listen to what he had to say already. it is clear that the big news from last week is that there are multiple investigations underway under attorney general barr to look into the origins of this operation, operation crossfire hurricane. they point to john brennan, james comey, clapper. we need to get to the bottom of it. thisst guarantee that happens never again to any president, democrat or

republican. political espionage is ok in dictatorships, not in america. host: let's go to beverly, republican line. caller: it is wonderful to talk to you. i love c-span. i miss brian. tell him hello. mr. gorka, what a breath of fresh air. ofsident trump, ovaltine draft of fresh air. breath of team of fresh air. i have friends who only listen to one news channel, maybe cnn. they never get another perspective. that is very sad. what i wanted to say is i have an idea for mr. trump come and maybe you can carry this -- trump, and maybe you can carry this to him for the election in 2020. he needs to draw in more people.

i will tell you i am a big animal advocate. with animal planet now available , people are so into what is going on with wildlife. i think if president trump could bring something about animals into the perspective, i think it would draw a lot of votes for him. process for the last three years, and i just hope you guys get them. i hope you go back and get them. host: thank you for your call. sebastian gorka. guest: rule of law. if we don't have rule of law, we have nothing. we know that the director of the in confidential, classified meetings with the new president, gets in his

government vehicle on his government laptop, writes his memoranda of that meeting and then gives it to his friend to give to the washington post. that is a felony. if i had done that, i would have spent six years in jail. i would be in the brain today. james comey is doing it as the director of the fbi. we have to have full investigation. people have to pay the price for their crimes. host: cleveland, tennessee, good morning. good morning. i have been listening about 10 minutes trying to get on. theeeps talking about investigation, the spying on the president. is everywheret it the fbi was checking on the

russians in the united states, every time you found a russian, you found somebody in the campaign. you still there? caller: they were at the convention. stands.e sitting in the they have been in trump tower. they have been in the white house. i hear you on the sinclair station we have about 30 miles from here. a bunchjust putting out of propaganda this morning. that's all you are doing. wish somebody would get john kasich from ohio to run against donald trump for president. host: too many contacts with russians during the campaign? illegal for not

russians to meet with americans. , jeff the absurdities sessions recused himself because he met with the russian open event with hundreds of other people. he got in trouble because he made a phone call to the russian hisassador to ask for assistance at a u.n. boat that was going to attack israel? we wanted their help. that was his job. the national security advisor is of only cabinet level member the administration that is not congressionally confirmed. the day you are appointed, you can start doing your job. by federal law, we have a transition team after the election until the inauguration. the idea that is illegal, that

every national security advisor since 1947 should be in prison because that is their job. this is the absurd russia collusion delusion. years, $35 million, the democrats need to move on. host: democrats line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. mr. gorka, you previously said trump was against the stupid wars but found a reason to be in support of regime change in venezuela. i found that striking, given how your reasoning was maduro is a brutal dictator and is oppressing his people. i don't see the same attitude towards mohammad bin salman in saudi arabia, the brutal dictator that has not only brutally oppressed his people,

especially the opposition, while in venezuela, the main figurehead opposition that has courted the international community that is thoroughly interested in the petro state, his main opposition is running through the streets, not arrested, not having his head chopped off. guest: being run over by personnel carriers? that is ok? this is the classic leftist propaganda. who is the opposition mohammad bin salman is acting against? they are the muslim brotherhood, who have been supporting the islamic state for decades. leader in first saudi years who is trying to purge his nation of those who have been funding the global jihadist movement.

this argument of moral equivalency between maduro and mbs is asinine. the u.s. in aput bind for the lack of his response to the clear assassination of jamal khashoggi? guest: that has put the u.s. in a difficult position. this man was an apologist for jihadists. he was an apologist for the muslim brotherhood. he was murdered, and that was wrong. occurred on foreign soil. we need to get to the bottom of it. the idea that he was some champion for democracy, he was an apologist to the kinds of people that are in bed with isis and al qaeda. host: new hampshire, republican line. caller: good morning. i have a question for you about

the democrats. i think we ought to call their bluff. the insinuation that attorney general bar is totally misrepresenting molars findings r is totally misrepresenting robert mueller's findings, i would think they told try to get mueller testify. i think we should call their bluff because if they are so r is some that bar pathological liar, they would want mueller to testify immediately. i know graham mentioned possibly welcoming mueller to testify. you think this is all a lie, why don't we ask director mueller? would not stop there.

i would have hearings that involve brennan, klapper, lynch, all the people that have to know about the legal spying against the trump campaign under oath, in front of the cameras. schiff,one man, adam seesor two years, when he a television camera has not been able to stop himself from saying i have incontrovertible proof that there has been collusion. where is it? expose it now, you can be charged with upshot of justice. host: the kentucky derby decision says president trump was not a good one. actually a beautiful thing to watch. only in these days of local correctness could such an

overturned occur. thebest horse did not win kentucky derby. not even close. guest: he is right about political correctness. the one reason i decided to accept my job with the president in the campaign was in five minutes having met him, i tolized he is the kryptonite political correctness. he continues to do it. god bless them. host: the unprecedented drama at , the 145thy derby kentucky derby, 65 to one shot after the apparent winner maximum-security was disqualified after an objection. from texas, we would hear from rachel on our independent line. you are on. good morning. caller: yes. no newssn't come from

media. this comes from the labor department. they said when president obama came in office, unemployment was at almost 12%. when he left office, it was 4.9%. how are you giving donald trump credit for all these jobs created when it was obama that employments that our went down under obama, not trump. the second thing, trump is taking credit for the mason act. that is not true. it was passed in 2014. i don't understand why he is taking credit. he has not done anything but give tax breaks to the superrich. people are fed up. i am fed up. i left my party, republicans, through all this crack that has gone on. i don't care who they get in, i just don't want trump back.

he is a disgrace to this country. host: rachel, a couple of issues there. we're talking 2020. what will the president run on in terms of the border, immigration? last week, he asked for an additional $4.5 billion. guest: i have to address this callere clearly that is a victim to fake news. obama created these jobs? when we came into the white house, the president said he was not going to sign any order unless first two others are rescinded. he wants to get the american government off the people's back. the first year it was 17 to one. now it is 22 to one. as a result, the economy is now gangbusters. we were told by obama that these jobs will never come back. they are coming back.

that tells you who is responsible, who we have to thank for the economy. it is not the 44th president. it is the 45th president. regards to immigration, it is a crisis. when you have jeh johnson, obama's secretary of homeland security say we have a crisis, we are starting to see the democrat narrative crack. we have had 30 years of a broken immigration system. we have to have resources. we have to get a grip on illegal aliens in this country. next inurice is arkansas. hi there. caller: how are you doing? host: doing fine. democrats line. caller: i have watched c-span for over 30 years. this man sat there, and

he just makes up fax. c-span would be a better source for everybody if you would go back to the original format of having to people to debate. there and just sit say whatever they want to. host: we often do. we often have roundtable discussions. we bring people on who are formally of the administration, people who are from the left, the right, the middle. guest: the first amendment, we love it. int: we will go to david texas, republican line. caller: i did not hear that guy call in when the man was on calling every republican a racist. mr. gorka, so please to talk to you. pleasee off this topic, have them in the white house start to make -- draw comparison

to the trump energy policy and energy independence. it is the only reason he can do what he is doing in venezuela by cutting off their oil sales without the price of oil going to $100 a barrel. it's the only reason he can do what he is doing in iran without going up to $150 a barrel. he has freed up our foreign policy. the trump administration is the first one i remember, the only president and in ministrations to use every -- administration to use every aspect of our foreign policy and trade talk policy together to make the changes, whether it is with nato and the funding. he is not against nato. he just wants them to pay their fair share. do the germans not to oil deal with russia. that is not something russia is

going to like. on the bbc, they were talking about the energy policy and the u.s. in the next two years, america is putting another 1.5 million barrels a day online. the oilrshadows production of iran and venezuela together. as far as the other is concerned, investigations and whatnot, the story that was in the new york times, anybody that has not been watching sean hannity, fox, sir carter, john sullivan, they are now going to be seeing the stories we have been seeing for the last two years. the truth is going to be in what happens with indictments. was obviousd a lie and evident with the mueller report. now nancy pelosi is saying donald trump is not going to accept the results of the next election after what we have gone

through for the last two years. it is nonstop. host: sebastian gorka. guest: bravo. absolutely. sean hannity, sir carter, mollie hemingway, they have been doing the work the rest of the media won't want to do. we only have a fraction of the story. i was told by a very respected former chief of station at the cia that the surveillance by the onmp campaign did not end inauguration day. the illegal surveillance continued after we moved into the white house. expect more on this. this story, we have to get to the bottom of it because it can never happen again. it is wrong. it is un-american. what do you make of this story, trump monitoring social

alex after facebook banned jones, the spare can, and others? guest: we have a problem. we have a cartel situation with social media. social media has gotten away with the immunity of not being a publisher, which means they can do whatever they want, which is fundamentally wrong. they should be treated like the washington post, the washington times, any other publication. they should be responsible for what is on their platform. the idea that they politically disagree with somebody,, alex jones is a very problematic figure. conspiracy theories are dangerous. they kill critical thought. if the first amendment means something, it means you are allowed to say dumb things as well as obnoxious things. that is why we fight wars for our rights. the idea that you have masters

of the universe with one button that can silence somebody who has one million followers. that is what i call totalitarian. potentiallygn 2020, president trump's rival in that race joe biden. week ineen added for a iowa, south carolina, other states. your view of joe biden so far? it is ironic that a party that talks constantly about minorities, underrepresented parts of the community, women, ethnic groups, that an old white men who has been in politics for longer than most americans have been alive is the front runner. creepy things she does with regards to women. this is an individual who is embroiled in massive scandals because of himself and his son.

the idea that his son hunter flies with them on air force two to beijing. inks deal with the chinese government for over $1 billion. the prosecutor in ukraine that was investigating the company that was paying his son a stipend. this man has so many skeletons in the closet. this is the best that the dnc can do. it is embarrassing. host: do you think he becomes the nominee? guest: i think he has a shot. bernie is going to be killed again at the dnc. bernie has the best shot if it was a fair fight. they will take him out of the running again politically. andit is down to biden kamala harris.

it is between those two. host: let's get to angela in california. caller: hello? host: you are on the air. caller: i have some comments and then a question. my comment, how i see it, the voters are voting for a person, no longer a party, but individual people. i voted clinton, obama, romney, trump. my concerns are immigration, i thought it was a great idea went trump said he would ship them over to the areas where the people are that put them in their people. -- their area. guest: the sanctuary cities. caller: i'm sorry? guest: the sanctuary cities you mean. caller: yes. they are already there. people areere these

that already impact their areas. they are already here. put them where the politicians are. is we are hearing a lot about the press, them not putting donald trump's name on the ballot. i don't like that idea. i think he needs to be on all the ballots. whether they see his taxes or not. host: you are calling from california. you have heard that threat in california? guest: we have heard it here -- caller: we have heard it here that he will not appear on the california ballot if he does not show his taxes. that is not legal, is it? host: we will let sebastian gorka respond. guest: voter fraud is a big issue. we see cases of people doing things that are illegal in national elections. most often it is on the left. i really do agree in regards to

your first comment. this is an age of celebrity. it is not an accident that the president had 14 seasons of an incredibly successful reality show. i don't think people vote for parties and platforms. they vote for individuals. i agree with you. that is the nature of the age we live in. host: here is georgia, amy is on the democrats line. go ahead. caller: good morning. this is directed at you, the moderator. we are living in very precarious times. for the public is very important. when i watch c-span, i like to ,isten to my fellow americans the journalists you have a long the experts you have on. this morning, you have someone who is a known grifter, propagandist. i don't think he is going to add anything to the body politic

commission terms of any kind of positive way. i want to encourage you in this very dangerous time where misinformation is such a huge problem that you choose your guests more thoughtfully. this guy is dangerous, and he likes to be dangerous. he likes to provoke. he does not have our best interests at heart. mind hearing conservative views, i just want them to be accurate, fair, aboveboard. thank you. host: as we told the earlier color, we bring guests from the left, right, and the center. guest: this is the left. they want to control information. the left that says they are tolerant says they want to shut down those they don't agree with. this is the irony of the democratic party. they have become totalitarian whether it is facebook. she says i want to hear from my fellow americans.

guess what, amy? i am your fellow american as well. i am an immigrant. i get to talk in america. you don't get to decide what is broadcast on c-span. the c-span management gets to decide. you said it is not in our best interests to have me on the show. you don't get to decide that. this is america. we believe in the first amendment. i know democrats don't. as long as i have breath in my body, we will fight. host: she called you dangerous. guest: i love that. host: why do you think? guest: i cut through the lies. she talked about this information. we have to fight against that. i agree. $25 million wasted on a circus. i'm dangerous. i hope i am dangerous to liars, propagandists. parents suffered as children under fascism. my father was put in prison

under communists. i fight against totalitarian tendencies. you will not stop me. none of you will. host: what year did you come to america? i left europe 11 years ago. i thought i would be socialism behind. it followed me in the form of barack obama. caller: good morning. hallelujah to everything you just said. thank goodness we have people like you speaking out. for real americans. thank you for that. , there isn to you something that has been confusing me for some time. we have things happening in this country like high gas taxes. we have the religion of climate change, and now the green new deal. would evense things touch the most significant

polluters of china, indonesia, the philippines. these are the places we have outsourced our manufacturing to. it seems like they are doing this to hide it from view. then we have strange things like the obama administration propping up the iranian regime. his strange affinity for the middle east, their iran deal, etc.. toyou think all this leads the return of the monopoly on oil production to the middle east? does it not seem like there is a large faction in this country trying to do that? guest: thank you. thank you for your comments. i love conspiracy theories as entertainment. they are called theories for a reason. i like to deal in facts. i don't think there is some great conspiracy to move oil production back to the middle east. as long as donald trump is president, it is not good to

happen. of energy.t exporter in regards to environmentalism, i cannot concur more. go to youtube and watch michael christ. a doctor.cientist, his speech to the commonwealth club on how environmentalism has become the new fanatical religion of the left because the filled aed god, they hole in the soul with rapid environmentalism. first it was going to be overpopulation, then swine flu, now it is global warming. analysis.ith your is a greenew deal new scam. the left went crazy. would never have tried to

advertise the campaign where he said every building in the country is going to be demolished and rebuilt in a politically correct fashion. i am going to outlaw gas engines. you will not be able to travel by air. he would have been laughed at. that is what the democratic party has sold, every front runner for presidential nomination has signed on to this insanity. isave one photograph that the proudest moment of my time in the white house, that sunny day in the rose garden where the president withdrew us from the paris climate accord and says i was elected by the citizens of pittsburgh, not paris. that was the expression of america first. host: the book is why we fight. defeating america's enemies with no apology. the new book will be out

later this year, the war for america's soul. about, theed talking caller earlier that wanted to shut down debate on the right. the dnc, pro-life, pro-national security. john f. kennedy, if he were alive today would not be allowed into the democrat party. that is the sad thing. the blue dog democrats disappeared. host: 15 more minutes with our guest, sebastian gorka. for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. independents. for we will go to that line now. caller: good morning. good morning, mr. gorka. i must congratulate you on your narrative, it prompted me to call into the show. listening to you, i thought i have fox news on.

guest: i'm glad you thought that. caller: i have never heard of the better apologist. guest: it's a fact. facts can be painful. caller: excuse me sir guest:. relax. caller: don't tell me to relax. guest: why not? it is america. i can do that. caller: i'm not going to address you further. i would encourage listeners to go to fact check.org to get the truth. there are narratives coming out of both sides that are extreme and just flat wrong, so i will just leave it there. you carry on with your -- guest: i will. i will carry on with the first amendment and standing up for the fine principles of this republic. thank you. florida.

it is an honor to see mr. gorka on the show. it is an honor to have him on. georgia androm pennsylvania are obviously racist and illiterate in politics. i want to know why no one calls out nancy pelosi. thank you and keep up the good work. thank you. guest: it is truly despicable. william barr has one of the most spotless reputations in a very dirty city that is washington. the idea that multiple members call this individual a liar on public television, it tells you there is no limit to the levels of propaganda democrats will speak to. they are afraid of him.

he did not need this job. , toook it for one reason clean the state. attorney general eric holder, the only attorney general since 1776 to be held in contempt of congress, a man who boasted that i am proud to be president obama's wing man, that is the person who is a liar and who should be investigated. they call attorney general barr the problem. they should be scared. he is going to get to the bottom of the correction. host: john in california. caller: i would like to respond to that lady in georgia, the independent from pennsylvania. let them know what the facts are. i live in a town of 30,000 people. we are a farming town. our latino population is 70%. have zero asians, zero

blacks. we are the least diverse town in ventura county. we are the poorest city in ventura county. 10,000 between 5000 and illegal immigrants in our city. we are a sanctuary city. i am for the wall. it is passive. when you have a drone flying over, you have got to send an armed response out there. a wall is a passive response. you don't have to send people with guns to shoot across the border. i like the wall. nobody brings this out. it is a one-time expense. one time. you spend $5 billion, and it is going to last for 50 years. over 50 years, it is the cheapest way to solve

.he immigration problem people are acting like we are spending $5 billion a year. we are not. we are spending $5 billion one time. people like me who bought houses and for 30 years watched our latino population go from 25% to 70% and have our businesses fail because the biggest thing latinos do is they send money back to mexico. you take one guy that sense 50 bucks to mexico week, that is $2600 a year. is $2.6 1000 guys, that million out of our little economy every year. you put velocity on that, and that is two or three times that. it is like $10 million out of our economy because it ripples through it. guest: it is not about latinos.

it is not about ethnicity. it is about people who are here illegally. we get the operational advantages of having a wall. if you are a human being, that is a reason to build a wall. angressman dan crenshaw told heart-wrenching story, 18-year-old girl from mexico is now naturalized. she was trafficked across the border. the cartels promised her a life of milk and honey in america. she is smuggled by the coyotes. she is locked in a room at the ped by 20 or 39at day. went to dan crenshaw and said, can we stop this? , this isold children from the vice president of the

border protection council, two-year-old children in mexico are being rented out by their mothers at the cost of $400 a day to the coyotes so that when they bring a group across the border, they can say this is a family unit. detain us. the child is smuggled across the border and rented again. is toman thing to do build a wall. not to mention the 72,000 deaths by drug overdoses last year. we have got to stop the drugs coming in. i don't care if you vote democrat, independent, republican. if you care for humankind, let's build the wall. host: what can this administration do to prevent those caravans from happening to begin with? guest: i am happy that mick mulvaney is now acting chief of staff. this is the man who knows where money can be moved legally

within federal government. we have money in the dod that can be used for drug interdiction operations. the president has found at least $9 billion to build the wall. we need $25 billion. i was with the president. he showed me where the wall is being built now. we have to finish it for the women and children. it will be reprogrammed. we need congress to help the president. if they continue this madness, if they keep talking about russia, it will be a cakewalk for the president in 2020. we'll have the house, the senate, and the white house. we will finish the wall. host: john, independent line. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: we sure can. though ahead. caller: i came 60 years ago, an immigrant from a third world country. i am a citizen. i am a c-span junkie since 1980.

i have listened to dr. gorka. this is my question. history repeats itself if we don't learn something from it. enablingn the sideline are just as guilty as the people who take the wrong side. why is it when close chart -- ballotsr for more paper find outckup, let barr the root cause. rights are the most primary thing for an immigrant and citizen. no man is above the law. i understand the shenanigans. what goes on is we don't even vote for something. we are always against it. this is not the same country i came to. i teach high school kids

constitution. we know more about march madness. they will say the boston tea party was the first tailgate party. shame on us for not giving paper ballots. even with the paper ballots, we had hanging tags with bush and gore. host: we are going to let you go. you mentioned earlier voter fraud. what about the issues we have had across the states, is the voting rights act, does it need to be updated? it does. the idea that the democrats have only just found russian meddling in the election an issue. it was an issue eight years ago. they have done nothing about it. it was an issue since the soviet union was established. it is not just russia, it is china. this is a sensitive issue. it is about states rights as well. at the end of the day, we have to fix it.

india, a nation the size of india can give everybody an id card that you show when you vote, when mexico can do it, how can we not do it? how can we not protect, this is one of our most important rights. we have to have things fixed. there are people and parties that have an interest in not fixing it. when democrats say voters prescient, you know who they are talking about. they want to have illegal aliens vote for their candidates. that is why they don't want voter id laws. we need voter id laws everywhere. maybe paper ballot backup as well. host: how concerned are you on the potential interference in 2020 of russia vis-a-vis compared to what happened in 2016?

attempt to will all be involved in undermining our democracy. i know dhs and other departments are looking very seriously about how we protect our voting systems. it has to be a joint solution between the federal government and states. host: we saw this last week that the president had a phone call with vladimir putin, talked about what he called a witchhunt, the investigation and the mueller report. what do you think about that? guest: i just hope we have stopped the leaking out of the oval office. the idea that the president of the united states cannot have confidential discussions in the oval office, we need to have the capacity to be up to protect national security secrets. the idea that things are being late for political reasons is outrageous. he said something very important in his last press conference at

trump tower before the election. he said, i would like to have better relations with russia. of course, he would. they have 11 time zones. it is a geopolitical player. the president said i would like to have better relations with them. right now it does not look very likely. he added, if that is the case, so be it. he does not want to kick the hornets nest. san diego, california, republican line. leo. good morning. it is early out here. first of all, i think donald trump is a pragmatist. i don't see him otherwise. lawyers line. -- lie.

journalists fabricate the truth. text messages cannot be doubted. i would like to see less congressional involvement and barr getting involved in things. i think we all know who killed mr. khashoggi. i don't know who killed seth rich. i think that has a lot to do with the american government. the other thing i am concerned about, it is not russia. it is the five other of our allies that have been colluding with our own intelligence agencies to try to bring down this president. god bless america. if we have never had a blessing before, we need god's blessing now. one more thing. dershowitzfessor come on the other day. he said you can only impeach a president after they leave

office. he specifically said that president obama broke the law with the iran-contra deal. i think there are three other issues mr. obama broke the law with, tpp and the paris agreement. i would like to get your comments on that. thank you. i appreciate your time. host: leo in california. any thoughts? guest: i have always said the president is a pragmatist. he is also a patriot. he did not need this job. he is doing what he is doing because washington needs to be fixed. the democrats have such disrespect for the average american that you have members of congress eat fried chicken in the committee room to make some kind of stupid, childish point. walk around with a chicken. that is how you are representing your constituency? with regards to liaison

services, there are two huge scandals we have not touched the surface of. hundredse, unmaskings, of americans were illegally unmasked in surveillance intercepts. , intelligencees services were exploited by john brennan. he know italy, australia, gc through the u.k. god bless admiral rodgers. within 24 hours, the director of the british nsa retired for family reasons. why? had been used by john brennan illegally to spy on u.s. nationals. the story has yet to be fully written. sadly it will involve our allies being used in a political

espionage scandal that makes watergate look like a small incident in history a long time ago. host: you. sebastian gorka thank you. washington journal back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern. we will look ahead at the week ahead in congress. steve nelson from the washington examiner. s talks about the deal or reason negotiations on a deal between the white house and democrats over a $2 trillion infrastructure package. that is tomorrow morning at 7:00 here on c-span and c-span radio. we will see you then. ♪

>> here is a look at what's coming up today on c-span. "newsmakers" is next. representative kathy castor talks about climate issues and campaign 2020. she chairs the select committee on climate crisis. after that several hours of the mueller report. the house judiciary committee prehearing meeting setting up the format for attorney general barr's appearance. the formal hearing the next day without the attorney general. the reaction for members, house leaders and the white house. president and first lady participate in the national day of prayer service in the rose garden. later, abductions and north korea. tonight, lincoln scholar harold holzer and amity slate share their perspectives on c-span's new book "the

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