vegetables pointed out that the tomatoes he was bringing from the caribbean where fruit and he did not have to pay his tariff. the battle went on for quite some time and eventually, the supreme court ruled that tomatoes are actually vegetables. it is an interesting ruling that has repercussions beyond tomatoes themselves. atouncer 1: sunday night 8:00 eastern on c-span's q and a. continues. host: josh kraushaar is " politicalournal's editor. he is here to discuss the politics of impeachment. the politics of impeachment now favors democrats. why do you think that? at national polls.

even during the heart of the mueller investigation and his testimony you had a bipartisan majority that opposed impeachment. it only received 35 percent, 40% support. we learned more about the president's relationship with the ukraine as we saw with these texts. you see in most polls a majority americans supporting at least the impeachment inquiry, supporting the democrats' position. and even when you ask, do you support actual removal of the president, that's about 45%, 48% support at the rally. it is growing. so, that is an opinion

that is affecting democratic support of impeachment. how about when republicans are polled? what is the trend their? you are right. the democratic base is consolidating around impeachment . that's responsible for some of the jump. but independent voters, the one consistent theme is they were overwhelmingly against impeachment a month ago. now they are split and the trend line is moving toward beinghment, moving toward concerned about what they are seeing on the news. republicans -- trump is always going to have the republican base. there may be a few cracks in the armor but you're not seeing much of a shift among his support. host: four house democrats, the train has obviously left the station, but some of the holdouts have begun to support

-- max rose, famously, i guess, from staten island. there are the independents, someone like joe cunningham in south carolina. those swingyou saw district democrats, with national security backgrounds, representing places that trump actually won in 2016, that was a clear sign they were not as worried about the politics. staten island, that is a big one -- he won tv overwhelmingly. he will face a tough race in 2020. the fact that he felt comfortable coming out for impeachment is an illustration of the politics is changing. host: that is a seat that has

gone back and forth for democrats and republicans. guest: these are people who overwhelmingly supported giuliani, supported trump. base.re basically trump's the fact that a democrat in that district felt comfortable -- you would not have seen this week a few weeks ago. guest: what has been the president response dust the president's response? -- host: what has been the president's response? has been all over the map. overnight we learned about texts. the president has been offering different defenses. there's not a coordinated war room. there has not been a concerted political strategy coming out of the white house. the republicans are relying on

his sweep as there's been and it changes on a day-to-day basis and i think there's a lot of anxiety about public opinion. host: josh kraushaar from guest.al journal" is our we welcome your calls. i wanted to play you the inner sea chairman. here is what he had to say when asked about the inquiry and what it may mean for republicans in 2020. [video clip] what is your political read and what advice are you giving candidates about impeachment now? >> this socialist democrat that currently occupies the house of representatives, their hatred for this president

-- >> wow. wow. >> it is so deep, they cannot focus on anything but undoing the 2016 election. they spent $20 million to get a report that showed no obstruction, no collusion. now there's a call with no quid pro quo in it -- >> i do, too. please read that. >> in the meantime, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are getting absolutely nothing done. this will be the end of the new houseist majority in the and is why we will win in november. tom emmer, who spearheads republican everything else. what did you hear? the no quid pro quo, that was undermined overnight.

it now sounds like there was quid pro quo. that's a statement republican hascials are saying and it been contradicted by new developments. the in rcc has been very aggressive in attacking democrats in trump district for supporting the impeachment inquiry, so they do believe they have an advantage, especially in the seats that are most conservative that democrats hold, but even in uphold they , 47% ofoned themselves americans in swing districts oppose impeachment and 44% support impeachment. even republican polling shows a shift from where things were. a narrowshowing plurality opposed to impeachment hearings, in swing districts, republican districts, but even those numbers are not that encouraging when you're talking about her republican leaning battlefield and numbers that

were much more encouraging for republicans a few weeks ago. to theet's shifted senate for a second. the impeachment bill, most notably, their photo with the article, susan collins, you write these swing state republican up for reelection in 2020. what sort of pressure is she facing? a very tough in position. if you are in a blue state and , you need to help voters. you can't win without their support. she is dammed if she does. damned if she does. she has been trying to lay low, not trying to deal with the latest controversies. but if you are a swing state republican you are in a tough position. you need from voters, but you also need suburban swing voters. the big battle lines, arizona,

martha mcsally, it will be extremely close. the senators are in a difficult position. host: susan collins, does she have a strong primary opponent? guest: not to my knowledge. she has a democratic opponent who's raising a lot of money, sarah gideon. democrats are pouring millions of millions of dollars into that race. host: let's go to clarksburg, west virginia, independent line. i got caller: -- i got a couple things. no one is above the law. nobody is, ok? the lady from the federal election commission says the law has been broken. and then you have in the constitution, the emoluments clause and the other thing that goes to mitch mcconnell and the oligarchs factory. i am just wondering, have i lost my mind hear? -- lost my mind

here? guest: the color brings up an interesting point here is there are some democrats who have said is aact that there campaign finance violation is the most important point. host: asking for help from ukraine? guest: which it is. are making mistake aspectsing on the legal rather than the political outrage the the president may have pressured the ukrainian president to dig up dirt on his political rival. it focus on the legalese of may -- that is why there is a danger that this hearing is being held at the house rather than behind closed doors. host: next, diane from upper

darby, pennsylvania. good morning. caller: how are you today? i have a comment about donald trump. he was born and raised to behave in this manner. to cheat money, manipulate people, the way he does. to be president, he has all this , for to manipulate himself, anywhere he can. what does it take to protect this country and impeach the president? what does it take? i want to know. guest: it takes 20 republicans in the senate. that is the math. you need 67 votes in the senate. democrats are in the minority in the senate and even if the house does vote on articles of impeachment, which it looks more likely now that will happen, it's going to be very, very difficult -- even if more

damaging revelations come out. there's going to be a very big challenge for the republican party to abandoned him. the polls show that trump gets 85%, 90% support among republicans. that has think assistant. i do see >> emerging in the senate. you have a lot of senators, especially those not up for reelection. joni ernst, another senator up for reelection, was at a town hall where she did not necessarily decides trump's comments, but she did criticize him calling the whistleblower a spy. chuck grassley also said that this week. there are cracks. the problem is you need 20 votes. that is a tall order in our polarized times. host: one of the democrats you noted, check -- doug jones out from alabama, what are his challenges? fort: he is running

reelection one of the most republican states in the country. he won because he opposed roy moore in the mill of one of the greatest political scandals in the country. he knows that his time is limited. .o he voted against kavanaugh he has taken positions like support for gun control that are not popular at all in alabama. he has supported the impeachment heuiry but i would suspect would put his own principles ahead of the politics because he is in trouble the matter what happens. host: michael, republican line, good morning. hey, biden investigated himself -- , you broke up a little bit. i apologize. chicopee, massachusetts on the independent line. caller: josh keeps citing poll

after poll after poll. we know what happened. we know what the polls said in 2016 and they weren't true, so why du believe any of these polls first of all? impeached,ident was which will never happen, prince becomes president --pence becomes president. what do the democrats do? go after pence? i'm sure they will. thank you. politicalt is the place where the republicans are. there is no support for the president to admit any wrongdoing. -- ais a supply side demand side issue not of

congress are only following their voters and they represent a lot of trump voters and republicans and they will have a hard time breaking with this president. until we see movement in the public support, the republican party support, you will not see a lot of movement from elected officials. you mentioned earlier the national republican campaign committee, their poll, the says 47 percent of voters in those target seats support -- 51% oft, 44% of it independent voters oppose impeachment and a battleground states, 49 percent of voters oppose impeachment, in those battleground states. this is the first chance they have had to pull on impeachment, i suppose. host: this is a partisan -- guest: this is a partisan poll. a lot of these districts are

pretty republican districts the democrats picked up in 2018. this is not your average voter. these are the swing seat, republican leaning seats that democrats want. other public polls of been more encouraging for democrats, a little more supportive of impeachment. public domain, support for impeachment was in the 30's. even in republican districts is up to 44% at this point. polling is showing an increase in support. the caller questioned your use of polls. how do you sort through the ones that are really valid and the ones you disregard? guest: it's a great question. there are polls that have a track record, that use appropriate methodology.

there's the abc washington post poll. they are usually among the best in the business. but the polling -- there have been issues with polling. the solution is not just to fromt the findings reputable polls. the national polls in 2016, hillary clinton winning by a few points and she actually won the popular vote. scene pollingthe that was often 2016. the national polls got the job done. glenn in's hear from birmingham, alabama on our -- gwen in birmingham, alabama on our democrats' line. want to ask just a question. i am a 72-year-old senior citizen alabama. it is exhausting. every day we get up and all we

hear about is donald trump did this. what is wrong with some people in america? what is wrong with the republican party echo let me say to you. , i really liked the president. but i am american first and a democrat second. what bill clinton did in the oval office was a disgrace and i did not like it. i still don't. but these republicans, i don't understand their minds. this is america. how dare we defend a president of the united states asking , who don't have any human rights in their country -- host: all right, we will hear from josh. guest: it is exhausting.

the most savvy news consumers, you are dealing with story up on story and it can be really overwhelming to digest. that's part of trump about his strategy, i think. overwhelmed the media ecosystem with so much controversy, so much scandal -- even over the last week for hours the religious six stories that could lead -- there were literally six stories that could lead any newscast. i think the politics operate as the same speed as twitter. i caution people reading the polls, reading senators' reactions. this is different. the scandal is different than a lot of the back-and-forth in the mueller investigation, different than "access hollywood," different than a lot of other scandals and republicans that have been supportive of the president, but i have noticed they have not rally to his defense this time, especially in the senate.

that's a leading indicator that suggests people want to see what else is out there because based on the text messages, based on the latest developments we saw, this is only getting worse for the white house. caller mentioned bill clinton's impeachment. going into the weekend, the president and others were tweeting video of the 1998 proceedings, the words of jerry nadler, the words of speaker pelosi, playing those back as the current impeachment effort continues. guest: partisanship is a hell of a drug. we saw hypocrisy from the democrats. this is a different scandal. this is arguably a were scandal. a lot of republicans criticized the obama administration for not giving enough military aid to

the ukraine. a lot of leading voices were outraged that obama was not helping ukraine defended itself against russian aggression. those national security voices in the republican party are going to be very much under the spotlight because it seems like hear the president conditioned this military aid in exchange for political dirt. this is not just a political issue. it's a national security issue. robert in rent up, massachusetts on the independent line. caller: good morning. i've a few comments. i do believe we have a situation that needs to be rectified because the president -- if -- ands about the constitution worried because they are democrat or republican

or independent. we are worried. the president, reality does not matter to him anymore. be violating blatantly the law and this intent is alarming with this president. we have to wake up, as other people said. we have to understand this is a -- he is taking advice from putin. denying russia is doing anything. he cannot run the country like he runs his business. moneytrying to make his on the back of the country by making deals. these are the kinds of latent violations people do not understand. we cannot fight with each other

like this. we cannot have a president that .oes not respect the law this is not normal, people. we have to write the articles to impeach this man. host: robert in massachusetts. that one polladd that came out was not whether you support impeachment, it was how serious chief on the allegations? and it found that two thirds of americans found that either very serious or somewhat serious. a third of republicans took it very serious or somewhat seriously. republicans are eager to side with the president but there are cracks in the armor. as more news comes out, as more , you willr the news not see an overnight seachange,

but this is a level we have not seen. certainly some of the congressional reaction is muted because they are out of town for another 10 days or so. back to impeachment and looking at the bellwethers on impeachment. the congresswoman from northern virginia, abigail samberg are -- guest: she was one of the first democrats to come out in support of an impeachment inquiry. -- she's one of the democrats was national security experience, really solidified that moment for pelosi to support the impeachment inquiry. she is someone who represents a trump district. one it by six points in 2016. heart of to be the republican country in virginia. it has become a little more

competitive. but she is taking a egg political gamble. the district supported him pretty significantly in 2016 and she was one of the first democrats to come out publicly and unequivocally in support for this impeachment inquiry. how she fares tell us a lot about where the political winds are. two omaha, nebraska next. john on the republican line. --ler: i am just curious adam schiff, he's the head of the house committee overseeing the impeachment and he is making stuff up in his opening statement. if they had enough evidence to impeachment -- two impeach trump, they would go for broke. time and time again, jerry nadler, chuck schumer, they make stuff up. as far as i am concerned, this is a grab power. a little noisy there,

john, but his point about raised by ach was house republicans leader kevin mccarthy, what is he trying to do that -- trying to do there? republicanve heard strategists saying perhaps they would be ok with some sort of censure. we are way too early in the process. but schumer, adam schiff, the chair of the house intelligence trump'se, has become bogeyman and the biggest target among republicans. pelosi a reason nancy picked them to be the quarterback of these hearings. she did not really trust jerry nadler. he had hearings that were a little less organized, more partisan. adam schiff is a very talented

prosecutor and good at his job. usually when the party goes after someone, it is because they think he is a threat. she was you think that waiting to give that to him, with his dealing with international issues and intelligence issues? before, pelosi was satisfied to let the various committees do the room business, but now that the stakes are so --h higher, both for pelosi and substantively, it was clear that pelosi wanted adam schiff to be the face and the leader. terry in dixon, illinois. go ahead. democrats' line. caller: congress is looking into impeachment of the president.

but the process ron. just like the call of the republicans. but there's one other thing i wish this speaker would consider. we know that vice president pence was also involved. i would like to know what did the president know? if the vice president was involved in this, maybe we impeach him, to you will. we are tired of this. every day, this administration is lying and coddling our enemies. north korea fired a ballistic missile from a sob and have we heard anything from trump? i thought he was making america great. host: thanks, terry. josh? guest: one thing we have learned them,s ukraine to number

adventure, it's not just rudy giuliani freelancing. vice president pence, it is clear he knew more than he publicly suggested about what trump was doing. in fact there was "washington , a story that his advisors were trying to distance them from the president's behavior. i do not know that that will be successful or if active. is, is thistion going to affect trump, or will other key administration officials like pompeo, who has been talked about as a possible kansas, willate in it take their fortunes as well. commentsant to play about the whistleblower in the investigation. here we go. [video clip] i brought each

conscripts from the president's , president trump's conversation with the president of the ukraine. i was going to bring out. it is in the back there. please do read that. i did not call for any kind of impeachment, impeachment inquiry. i did not even utter a word that started with i until this week. please take the time to read it. it will only take you about 30 minutes to read the transcript and the whistleblower support. the president is trading defense assets to undermine the 2020 election. and, tom, while we are up in, i guess i am curious how you thend that conversation president of the united states had with the president of the ukraine. host: josh? guest: it is important to

understand the position cheri bustos is in. from a trump district in illinois and she has consistently, for months and months, urged pelosi not to pursue if these may hearings until the last couple weeks -- and you saw from that clip it is so serious, it deserves greater attention. that is a big shift and it shows how the politics have changed. it shows that she is willing to go on attention. offense. there may be democratic defectors like joe cunningham from south carolina. democrats from the most conservative districts, but when democrats from the most conservative districts, but when you have a very reticent chairwoman of the dccc not wanting to pursue impeachment

hearings and taking the case to her rival, tom emmer, on the republican side, it shows you how it can change so quickly. we aired in the live and you can see it on our website, c-span.org. let's go to west point, georgia, independent line. caller: hi, i'm just calling because as a veteran of the united is i have never thought -- united states, i have never thought the constitution would be so trampled on by the president whoa has been a draft dodger about things. the whistleblower -- we need that. if we didn't have whistleblowers, it would be much more troubling in the federal government. the president tweeting about the whistleblower this morning. he just tweeted this

"whistleblower had the facts wrong about the phone call. schiff never told us about this." he could be a vulnerable senator except that he is retiring, lamar alexander. what role could he play in a potential senate trial that could follow a house impeachment? retiring officeholders do not have political pressure. they are out of washington in 2020. you have folks like lamar alexander who are establishment, pragmatic republicans who don't have a great relationship with trump, have been critical of him at times. i think if you see cracks in the republican senate it would be --m mitt romney, ben sasse

you does have a primary and a competitive election coming up -- but especially from the republicans leaving office. lamar alexander, pat roberts, mike in the. they feel if they have a responsibility speak out. if they speak out, who knows where the politics will lean and how their colleagues will respond to that. herald" reported this decries trump's opera probe. we have a call from independence, missouri on our democrats' line. whenr: i'm just wondering, nixon was going to be impeached and he resigned ahead of no newsent, there was

media to put their own facts out there. i wonder if there were a right-wing media in that day when nixon was going through his impeachment what the result could have been and what the polls would have shown. there are people to this day who believe that nixon did not do anything wrong. in this day and age when you have a vociferous right-wing media basically opposing any standing facts. that's my question. looking at historical examples of impeachment, what is most interesting is the support for impeachment for trump right now is significantly higher than it was for bill clinton during the impeachment trial in the 1990's or richard nixon at the beginning of the impeachment looking at historical examples ofhearings that took pe 1970's.

the reason bill clinton thrived politically, it did not hurt his party after the very dramatic impeachment hearings in his case was because the public was against removing him from office for what he did. right now we are seeing between 45%, 40% for removing trump from office and all of the reputable polls right now. , i'll think you are going to see the number increased dramatically, but look, that's a eveny high number, and if a small number of republican voters defect, that would be a disaster for the white house. the politics of

impeachment now favor democrats. is it too early, and have we heard any word on how the fundraising efforts are going for the politics the dccc, the l races for democrats, and the nrcc. host: fundraising for the trump campaign is excellent. this is helping their campaign. small don -- small dollar donors, grassroots, they have raised 125 million dollars, a lot of money. this can also rally the democratic fundraiser base -- it hasut historically, but pelosi is very concerned about making this political. she does not want this to be seen as a political exercise. it's hard to say how fundraising will be impacted, but democratic isk and file, the pressure on their members not to make this about politics.

host: polling is showing the dccc, 54% support impeachment. the present of pose impeaching president trump and removing him from office. thepat -- you are right there, louisville, go right ahead. caller: yes, i would like to make two points or thoughts of that is leaving communism and machiavellian out of it. u.s. president trump is a wartime president. a wartime president can do exceptg he wants to do raising the dead and only jesus can do that. the other point is, if you did

, andch the president taking all the guns out of biden wants to take biden wants to take out, using a trillion dollars for a buyback, that leaves open the republic to any foreign entity that wants to invade this nation. right now we are having an amazon senate down in central and south america. businessimmigration coming up here, the reason they are having that senate is ,ecause all of south america under the organization of south

which comprises all the nations of south america, including mexico and central america and the caribbean, has to thetributed one penny emigrants coming up here -- pat, talking impeachment, not immigration this hour, but appreciate your call. we have a photo of adam schiff and the speaker, nancy pelosi. considering appealing to moderate democrats and republican districts to stand with the president -- pursued at odds with fresh political attacks. they say and outreach campaign would target some of the 31 democrats from congressional intricts that trump won

2016, many of whom ran on rebuilding infrastructure and lowering the price of prescription drugs. feelsthis -- guest: this like a dated political transcript. one of those democrats is cheri bustos. numbers, half the of those 31 districts and trump districts have supported impeachment hearings. max rose is the latest. host: numbers are increasing. guest: republicans feel that they are putting themselves in a more vulnerable position, that trump supporters are going to be with the president again in 2020, but when you look at the polling, you should see the democratic polling on the issue. even the republican polling shows a pretty even split in swing districts. a month ago, republicans were

trying to bait democrats and two calling for impeachment. now it's the other way around. democrats are trying to put republicans on the spot by asking them where they stand. the white house strategy sounds like it was based a month ago before these new headlines came out. host: this is stephen on the independent line. caller: one question that has not been answered by the press or the democratic party on the -- onch went proceedings the impeachment proceedings. no one can name the high crime or misdemeanor he has committed as president of the united states. there is been all this hate and candor. it is leaving to foreign enemies and domestic enemies to leaving the gate open where something can happen in this country.

involved should be asking that question. what is the crime or misdemeanor? you cannot do this on narrative and rhetoric. what i'm seeing on the streets and what is being talked about is people are waiting until the election and they're talking about the local, state, and federal elections and how they are going to boot every darn democrat out of office if they pursue this and the journalism today is not being trusted at all on either side, right or left. wave -- i listen to shortwave munication is a my radio. pointed atis being our country, how idiotic we seem discussing and pursuing this. all right, stephen from pennsylvania. josh? guest: you heard the argument,

the argument that cheri bustos made this weekend. she said the president traded defense assets. impeachment is a political process. they believe this is different than all the other scandals because there is a quid pro quo. there is a trade threat to the ukrainian government to cooperate with some of these investigations into biden in the 2016 likes to get crucial defense aid. now the caller said, our lessnal security may be because we are distracted by scandals, but a lot of those democrats, including seven of those democrats with very strong national security backgrounds are making the argument it is different because the president jeopardized our own national security to counter russia for his own political gain and

that's the implications of what we are learning. i do think what makes this -- different is -- four republican national -- for republicans, national security is a bedrock issue and a lot of republicans are not comfortable, at least privately, with what they are seeing. think thedo you former vice president has responded so far? guest: not very well. when the story first wrote, you expected the vice president to for --some outraged just how he brought his family into the equation. biden is leaving in many polls. two underscore the president is afraid of me, but he didn't do that. the biden campaign focused on other issues like health care,

gun control. they really downplayed a lot of the headlines and that changed gave avice president speech countering the rhetoric. a lot of democrats wonder if biden is up to taking on trump. is that going to make him a strong candidate? he has a dual challenge. yes to get through the primaries. uncomfortable talking about his son' is business. they may not be illegal. but profiting on his dad's position is very swampy behavior and not good politics. i think there was hesitance from the right and camp, not to make a big deal. comparing apples and

oranges from what hunter biden did in the ukraine and what the president is alleged to be done. this may be a question where trump gets hurt, but it may also heard the vice president as well. host: we have cap the from michigan -- kathy from michigan on the democrats' line. just wondering, where is the supreme court in this? we have not heard anything from them. . just wonder can't the democrats order the supreme court to make sure they can get subpoenas. wanted.ll i i do not know how lisa prim court would be involved. i'm not sure why it's the caller is referring to.

the fundamental political equation is due the independents turn against the president? do we get 15% to 20% of republicans? do they move against? that's the political math that formula.he senate all right, here is david on the republican line. caller: i want to thank josh for the great work he does. i cannot understand -- we have gotten to the point now where we believeectives -- i what i see, not what people tell me.

you can verify by telling whether it is wrong or right. we have a basic knowledge of what the fact is. we don'ttten so bad know what right or wrong is. for thek you, josh, great job you guys do. this is why america is great. guest: i will add one area that makes it different than past cannotersies -- i believe that many americans read all 500 pages of the mueller report. --was a 10's, legal document a dense, legal document that person wouldtest have trouble with the review can read the whistleblower report -- it is 10 pages. you can read the rough

transcript of the president's call with the ukraine and read the text messages that were sent among various diplomatic officials and you can do it in 30 minutes and is plain english and easy to read and make up your mind. i cannot believe that many read the mueller report. of leaks, a lot contradictory information going on. this, you have the primary source material. they can read of themselves and come up with their judgments on whether this is problematic or not. joseph, good morning. caller: good morning. thank for c-span allowing people to speak. and i votedpendent for donald trump, hoping he would clear up the political corruption in our country, but i just want to say he should be impeached.

the political corruption in wisconsin is just as bad as it is in the white house. thank you for allowing me to speak. host: thank you. hunter is next and lop yet, george on the republican line. caller: yes. i'm an american veteran, first of all. i believe in the constitution. would like to say i do not think president trump needs to be impeached. the democrats have an agenda i.e. taking pass, away guns, i.e. a socialist society. cannot -- wewe president true to trump and conservatives. that's all i have to say. guest: we are at a polarized political moment. you hear from a lot of republicans who are not necessarily the biggest chump

enthusiasts, but they look at the rhetoric from the democrats and they see democrats calling calling foro'rourke -- you see one in sanders supporting single-payer health insurance. very disruptive progressive policies that make it hard for republicans who may want to back away from trump. that caller reflects that. i hear that more and more from republicans. i can't endorse trump. but have you heard what the democrats have been saying. the democrats have not made it easy because they moved to the left the last couple years to the point where it is difficult to find middle ground. -- there are people that

are sticking with him as a counter to democrat behavior. yung kim, lost from -- lost by a hair to gil cisneros. running for the seat in 2020 again. therepublican party is party of opportunities and i am an example of this. lamar alexander is going into retirement. recruit is this job to candidates? republicans are doing a pretty good job recruiting candidates. not a typical republican candidate. totalitarian a

society. that belongs with this news of corruption and the fact that trump is browbeating and allied that we depend on to counter russian expansion. these are issues that republicans have been largely united on and now trump is making it difficult for them to hold those positions or be consistent with those positions. lindsey graham, for example. they are doing a pretty good job getting candidates and some of the more competitive districts. politicalfaced strong headwinds in orange county. it is hard to see how the political environment will change for the republican benefit.

the way politics are going, it will he at least as bad for republicans. bobby from new jersey. we have the house coming in a couple minutes. go ahead. >>

election in 2016. you really think that they are an enemy. think they're an enemy of the united states? guest: certainly mitt romney thought so in 2012 when he was debating president obama. that has been republican party orthodoxy going back to the soviet union. the republican party has historically been the most hawkish party when it comes to countering russian influence. they made it really difficult republicans.file -- host: that will wrap it up for us.

the house is coming in momentarily. josh kraushaar from "national journal." it is up to us as members of congress to make sure we remain strong in the face of adversity. that is what we have to can do, to continue to encourage other countries. that is what we will continue to do. >> i beg your pardon, but all of our allies? he is making fun of them on twitter. we end up with, oh, we love people from north korea, or we love russia, but where -- it is a nonanswer answer. i get what you are saying. >> i can't speak for him. >> i know you can't speak for

him, but you can speak for yourself. >> i have said this time and time again. north korea, not our friend. russia, not our friend. the president knows where i stand on those issues. >> what about whistleblowers? >> whistleblowers should be protected. i stand with chuck grassley on this. laws need to be enforced. >> i understand, but we are not hearing it from -- >> that is because the media is not covering those issues. >> you have to say it for the media to cover it. >> whistleblowers should be protected, please. >> and our president should not be threatening them. he should also not encourage other countries to investigate his political rivals? >> i would say corruption, no matter where it is, should be ferretted out.

i have traveled to ukraine. with the newsited president, but many years ago i had the opportunity to meet president poroshenko. i spoke to him about the fact that, in ukraine, there is still a large amount of corruption. they have tried to deal with that corruption. i don't care who it is, where it is, when it is, corruption is corruption. it should be combated. >> at was part of a town hall meeting held in iowa by republican senator joni ernst. you can see the entire event tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. c-span's washington journal, live with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up saturday morning, a wall street journal economics

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