group isis after the death of ryan ofer with michael the jamestown foundation. then an update on the california wildfires with bob roper of the western fire chiefs association. host: good morning. it is saturday, november 2. we have more political programming for you on c-span this week. it started last night with a busy live action. lots of voices out there. 2020s your favorite presidential candidate and why? by phone it is (202) 748-8000 for democrats. for republicans it is (202) 748-8001. for independents, (202) 748-8002

. you can also send us a text at "washington journal," we will be happy to read that as well. please leave your name and where you are writing from. i text (202) 748-8003. you can post a comment on facebook and twitter. here is a look at the website of the newspaper out of tupelo, mississippi. trumpave this headline, takes strike at impeachment inquiry. a big rally that ran about an hour and a half. president donald trump unleashed an aggressive show of oratorical force fighting friday night in mississippi. [video clip] yesterday the democrats voted to potentially nullify the votes of 63 million americans, disgracing themselves and

bringing shame upon the house of representatives. they have been plotting to overthrow the election since the moment i won, but the people here that are highly sophisticated no long before i won. 19 minutes after i took the oath of office, the horrible newspaper, fake washington post declared the campaign to impeach president trump has just begun. at least they gave us 19 minutes. radicaly's vote by the democrats is an attack on democracy itself. republicansyou, the are really strong. the strongest i have ever seen them.

the most unified i have ever seen them. the american people are fed up with democrat lies, hoaxes government and extremism -- hoaxes, and extremism. will vote manyty do nothing democrats out of office in 2020. host: president trump last night in mississippi. the washington post points out trump won mississippi with 58% of the vote in 2016. the state is considered far from play in 2020. in kentucky, a gop lost at the state level on tuesday would be seen as a hairline crack in the president's popularity among republicans. a runoff election there on november 16 will determine who will be that states next

governor. the post has a new poll that says americans are sharply divided over whether to impeach and remove donald trump. 49% of americans say the president should be impeached. 47% say he should not. among democrats, removing the president is overwhelming, 82% in favor. 13% opposed. among republicans, it is almost the opposite. 82% opposed, 18% in favor. iowa accordingof to the new york times says elizabeth warren holds the lead closeernie sanders a second. biden falling behind. elizabeth warren it to solidify her gains in the first voting state while mayor pete buttigieg has climbed quickly to catch up with mr. sanders and overtake

mr. biden. 22% of is favored by likely caucus-goers, mr. biden at 17%. . warren fromabeth last night in iowa. [video clip] anyone who comes on this stage and tells you they can make change without a fight is not going to win that fight. and anyone who comes on this stage and tells you to dream small and give up early is not going to lead our party to victory.

this is a time of crisis, and media pundits, washington insiders, and even some people in our own party don't want to admit it. they think running some vague campaign that nibbles around the edges is somehow safe. isthe most we can promise is this as usual after donald trump, then democrats will lose. offer solutions they cannot take touch -- big enough to touch the problems that are in people's lives. fear and complacency does not

win elections. hope and courage wins elections. i am not running some consultant driven campaign with some vague ideas that are designed not to offend anyone. based oning a campaign a lifetime of fighting for working families. campaign from the heart. elizabeth warren last night at the liberty and justice celebration in des moines. that was an event that barack obama used to propel him toward the nomination. you can watch both of those events can the president's rally event onsippi and that

our website, c-span.org. the headlight on elizabeth warren in the new york times we will get to in a bit. warren unveils a medicare for $20.5an at a cost of trillion. plans to tax the wealthy but not the middle class. james has been waiting on the line from south dakota. our first call, republican. who do you like this year and why? because he reason is defends the constitution. host: let me jump back in. i don't think i had you from the start. tell us who you like and why. yes, thank yound for having me. host: you bet. caller: i like him because he

defends the constitution. his policies are working. he is doing this right. he is doing what he can to the deficit. we are $20 trillion in debt. the democrats only want to raise taxes and get us more in debt and destroy the country, in my view. going the trump is right way. it would take a fool to not see it. i guess that is it. i don't have a lot to say about it. host: what do you make of the house votes on thursday regarding impeachment and moving forward with the process? caller: i think it's a joke. i think the republicans are doing the right thing. i think the democrats are doing something that is sort of illegal, but cannot really put it that way.

ditchk they are in a last of trying to get rid of the president because of their schemes. they don't have anything. they have no policies. they don't do anything for the country since they have been in power in the house. they have done nothing. that is kind of pathetic. host: thank you for calling. cheryl from illinois on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a couple of questions. i want to ask trump supporters do they care more about trump or the constitution and our country? host: why do you ask? caller: it seems obvious that they don't care about our country or the constitution. what does trump have to do before they will stop supporting him?

i don't understand. doesn't your country come first, especially the veterans? i cannot believe the veterans, how they can support a traitor. that is basically all i have to say. host: thank you for calling. we have mark from schenectady, new york. good morning. caller: good morning. i find it ridiculous what the caller before was getting too. what exactly has trump done against the constitution or this country? has done morep for veterans than either obama, bush, because look at the v.a. trump has tried to support the v.a. as much as possible. trump attacking the constitution is rubbish. they are attacking trump for

attacking the constitution perhaps because maybe he either collude's with foreign governments, which is also rubbish. it is a bad argument. as a republican, i will be supporting trump 100%. host: from mississippi democratic caller, linda, who is your favorite color? joe biden. he is my candidate because he represents the whole of the united states, the whole country. he has been there before. he knows the rules and regulations. he would not abuse the constitution. he would not abuse the laws. republicans, the law and order party, the family values party, donald trump represents

none of that. trump has doneid more for the veterans, he was the one that took money from veterans to build a vanity wall. this man talks out of both of his mouth, and republicans plug their ears and close their eyes. host: you mentioned joe biden. what do you make of the fact that he is beginning to drop in the polls in iowa? caller: i don't even know why they put iowa is the first caucus. iowa is 99.9% white. it does not represent the whole of the country. withey want to go that, if he doesn't win it, just fine. facebook, i think

what we need more than anything is experience and a steady hand. biden offers experience and a steady hand. whichever democrat wins the nomination, i believe in democracy, and that makes them better than the alternative. ida prefers president trump and says he has done more for american the last few presidents have ever done. here is more from the president last night into below criticizing -- in tupelo criticizing barack obama and joe biden. [video clip] >> with no political experience, i beat the clinton dynasty, the bush dynasty, the president barack hussein obama dynasty, and president obama worked anrder at defeating me th

crooked hillary clinton did. he was all over the place. the only time i have actually seen him work hard when he came to trying to beat trump. said, remember he said, he will not be present. that did not work out so well. then they figured they could take us out a different way, very dishonest. the lying in the spying and the leaking. ass.e are taking their kicking their ass. in the delusional democrat fantasy, i'm supposed to be afraid of someone called 1% joe. he could never get 1% in the primaries. by obamaot brought out

out of the trashy, became vice president. we have named him very slow, sleepy joe. he has gotten slower and slower. i'm afraid if he gets the nomination, he will be so slow we will have the lowest rate of debates in history as opposed to the highest-rated debates in history against crooked hillary. i don't even think that sleepy joe will get it. many people are running. it is so early. i don't want to talk about their campaign. host: we will hear from joe biden a little bit later after a few more phone calls. the president also talked about the economy. the financial times this weekend reminds us hiring remains

robust, stocks extend record rally, wall street journal similar headline, jobs and defying buoy economy, slowdown across the globe. the u.s. economy is in a very good place right now. growth has been supported by the continued strength of household consumption underpinned by a thriving labor market. we are sure we will hear more from that day. have ohio on the line, independent, martin. who do you like and why? caller: i am kind of caught between trump and elizabeth warren. host: tell us why. foreign policy

and what trump does with the economy and the market. on healthns opinions care and what she does for the worker. that being said, how do you move forward from this point and finally make a decision on what is likely to be portrayed as to really different extremes? caller: it is a conundrum. if you could put the two together to something in the middle, you would have a good candidate. stands accused of violating the constitution. it is a very broad statement. it would be helpful if somebody readedgeable came on would the exact clauses he violated. i don't know what they are. host: thank you. thank you for calling.

joe is in georgia, republican. caller: i love c-span. i have been calling c-span for 30 years. i am a stock market guy. i think trump is the best world leader in history. reelected, the stock market will go to 32,000. i am so fired up. i'm going to spring to the polls and vote for trump. i have never been so fired up before. to invite c-span, i'm having my 80th birthday party, and the trump bus is going to be there. i would love for c-span to cover it. supporter of big c-span for 30 years. you are doing an incredible job. i am so fired up about trump that i am having a hard time sleeping at night. host: thank you. happy birthday.

joe turning 80 years old. he calls the program once a month. thank you for calling. kathleen on the line for democrats. who do you like this year and why? caller: biden. host: how come? caller: he can put everything back together again. everybody talking about wages going up. it is not. 7.25 an hour. one is like walmart and the other is dollar general. ges may be about $10 there, $7.25 an are still hour. people working at wendy's, 30

minute break, no breaks. need to stop lying to the american people. stop lying to the american people. he know he lying. it doesn't make no sense. people are dying because he is lying to make himself look good. when you die, you cannot take it with you. i don't understand. i talked to my brother's. he is a republican. i'm a democrat. when you come out with something like the six-week abortion bill, when our children are dying because they don't have any more health care, when you take away coming from -- it from washington, d.c., sending to the states. one or two things, you

get cut off. our health department since july last year, you have to pay $25. you have to pay $25. the health rid of department, we don't have nothing here in mississippi but the health department. they talk about planned parenthood. host: thank you for calling and sharing your situation and your desire for joe biden to be elected. here is joe biden in iowa last night, telling the audience why he feels president trump must be defeated. [video clip] hate onlyw, folks, hides. it never leaves. this is a man who has employed -- when it gets oxygen, it comes out from under the rocks. it pollutes everything.

this is a man who started his campaign based on hate and division, dividing people in ways that we have not been divided before. this is a man who has embraced tyrants and dictators. this is a man who has looked at people like kim jong-un as well as vladimir putin and embraced them. this is a man who has poked his finger in the eyes of america's allies. there is something i have learned the last couple of weeks. number one is that vladimir putin doesn't want me to be president. two, donald trump doesn't want me to be the nominee. spent a lot of money to make sure i am not. i am flattered. i am flattered. look, we have got to be this man.

eat this man. it is not enough that we just him. willst beat him, and i beat him like a drum if i am your nominee. he knows it. host: joe biden at the celebration in iowa called the liberty and justice celebration. you can watch that entire event with many of the democratic candidates as well as the president's rally in mississippi. todaydens will be in iowa , opening another campaign office in des moines. you can watch that live at 11:45 eastern today. at 10:00 eastern, we will show highlights of that democratic

event from iowa. there is this headline in politico regarding joe biden in iowa. biden confronts a growing threat, pete buttigieg has passed biden in one of the recent iowa polls. we will hear from pete buttigieg in a couple minutes. let's go to matt. thank you for waiting. tell us who you like and why. caller: good morning. i have contributed so far to bernie sanders' campaign and marion williams at one point. i have followed joe biden. the thing about joe biden, i was -- ine point there did not feel biden would be as hands-on. trump has altered the office. i don't agree with his approach.

he has taken the presidency to a different level. back, the warren and trump potential compromise, your reaction was more interesting to me. lot more of that sentiment out there. it is not so unusual for us to want strong national security and a strong working-class. if there was that compromise, and unless we get more independent colors on c-span, you will see that sentiment out there. if we can find that one candidate because as an independent, i am all over the place. i am like andrew yang. i feel there is going to be a drastic turn over from robotic jobs from human. we have seen robotic jobs in place. ineel it is going to happen

a radical overnight way. he has my attention. i'm surprised no one else is speaking about that. i am all over the place. i wish you could take more independent callers. for elizabeth warren, she is an excellent choice. she is a real politician. i feel she has a radical days. my deep down conservative roots, i'm not all a conservative. i feel she is the potential candidate that can stand up to trump, and there could be a decent debate if they can set aside the emotion and have a good discussion on behalf of the american people. host: thank you. thank you for calling. that independent line we have is pretty much open every day or the vast majority of the days on this network. we look forward to hearing more and more of your voices. that last caller mentioned andrew yang.

he stays in iowa this weekend. we will be live tomorrow with andrew yang in marshalltown, iowa. ons is at 2:30 p.m. here c-span. we are taking your calls on your favorite 2020 candidates. we have been showing clips from the various events yesterday. we will do this for about a half hour more this morning. a couple of other stories, kamala harris, senator from her staff, is cutting in new hampshire. shuttered three of four offices in new hampshire. said an officials dramatic reorganization was forced by slow fundraising. dropped out ofas the race officially. the new york times piece, short of funding.

the former texas congressman .ugging one of his supporters during the senate race last year. he announced on friday he was dropping out, ending a campaign in which he struggled for months to recapture the energy of his amongent senate candidacy a national campaign full of big personalities. inrge is a holding on kentucky. good morning. caller: good morning. host: you have the president coming out there on monday. caller: yes, we do. i am looking forward to it. straightaway, i was not a trump fan when i voted for him. it was more of an anti-hillary vote. he earned my vote in 2020. host: tell us more. caller: i think the democratic any reasonableof

offering as far as you've got beto wants to take everyone's guns and stuff like that. are goingatic party so far left, how can you vote for them? that is my general question. host: have you been following the governor's race? we understand the governor, mr. bevan, is in a little trouble politically leading into the selection. what do you see happening? bevin squeaking it out. i think the republican party has successfully tied beshear to the extremes of the democratic party. i think that is going to hurt him. host: thank you for calling. caller: have a good day. thank you. host: calling from lexington, kentucky. the president will be there on

monday. a seven: p.m -- 7:00 p.m. start. reports, writes that kentucky's republican governor faces a tough race and wants trump to save him. n the distinct reputation of being among the country's most unpopular governors. onocrats are banking kentucky's attorney general and besheareer to -- andy to unseat him. 46% of likely voters backing bevin and 46% backing beshear.

they going on to write that in many ways this race should not be this close. chris calling from new jersey. caller: good morning. before i tell you who my candidate is, may i say congratulations to the nationals in the world series. that was excellent. i have been leaning towards mr. joe biden. i will tell you why. mr. joe biden talks to the human person. he says a lot, and he means a lot. when i hear him, he knows how to tell the genuine truth. as an individual with special needs, i have seen what donald peopleas done by mocking with special needs and not doing enough for people with special need. countryfailure in this regarding this matter. there have been a lot of people in special and -- with special needs in this country who have

been suffering. stood alongside of him, including his son, beau, who had brain cancer. i know what it is like because my mother is a cancer survivor threes fought cancer times. the fact that she is fighting for her own survival again with lymphoma is a testament that i need to stand stronger than ever before as a democrat to protect the rights of people like myself and my mother who has suffered very deeply with physical and mental challenges. the fact that joe biden has a genuine plan to defeat donald trump and put right everything that went wrong by this man because of the fact that he has taken away the privileges we have fought so hard for accessibility and health care and everything else is clearly essential.

i encourage anyone to step away and realize just how important we are to protecting your rights as individuals who are needing medicare and medicaid. please change your decision, change your vote, change to help support the democrats, especially joe biden, and especially my rights as an individual because my very rights are at stake. host: christopher from new jersey. pennsylvania, robert is on the republican line. what do you say? caller: thank you for taking my call. i am definitely a president trump:. i know he is roughshod. man.am a trump i know he is roughshod. he does not speak out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. alwaysaised that you

clean your own house first, so if the democrats want to get anywhere, they need to take hillary clinton and make her --duce the 33 seconds and the 33,000 emails that she made disappear. as far as biden goes, the democrats need to have their own investigation into him and just see how honest he really is. thank you. host: thank you for calling, robert. fan inttigieg has a selma. on facebook, she writes, pete buttigieg is her selection for president. he is a veteran, too. buttigieg mayor pete

in iowa last night on why he is different from president trump. [video clip] ini don't get helicoptered to a golf course with my name on it while pretending to care about the working class. i don't even golf. i get around in a chevy that was built in ohio by the very same workers this president has let down. i don't go to work in an office in washington, d.c. my office is about six hours that way down i-80, here in the midwest. out the window that office, i see the outlines of our ethanol plants, which is why i understand the measure of this president's betrayal of american farmers, and i know how to talk about it.

i don't have to throw myself a military parade to see what a convoy looks like. i was driving one around afghanistan about the time this president was taping season seven of the celebrity apprentice. that tough talk is not going to work against me. wdid not just come here to era of donald trump. in order to win and in order to lead, it is going to take a lot more than just the political warfare we have come to accept from washington, d.c.

we are you have a divider in chief. house thatng a white you can look at on the news and feel your blood pressure go down a little bit instead of through the roof. host: mayor pete buttigieg, who the polls show is rising in that state. part of the peace in politico, where it contrasts mr. buttigieg with mr. biden. buttigieg has muscled his way into contention by steadily building crowds and rapidly expanding his presence in the state. last month alone, he has doubled his staff presence and opened 20 offices across iowa. rob is on the line. independent color. who do you like? caller: thank you for taking my call. it is a good discussion. c-span is a wonder because they take comments from normal

people, everyday people. mr. trump, i am 65 years old, and my family has been democratic since the civil war and have done a lot of things. they are public servants. the first is businessman we have had an office in my lifetime. mr. buttigieg, he is very eloquent, but the only experience he has is a middling job as a mayor of a midwestern town. , and mr. biden, look at it this way. mr. trump does not even take his salary as president, and he has raised the economy whether you are white or black or indian, whatever your sexual preference or religion. he is standing up for the citizenship. he is keeping his promises he

made during the campaign. i hear a lot of people speaking about biden. be atell me, how can you sitting vice president under obama and say what he said on take my jet is going to off in seven hours if you don't fire the prosecutor. his son was getting $50,000 a month, half $1 million worth of sign-on bonuses. the honor and integrity of the vice president. he says, if you don't believe me, call obama. they got off the phone, and they fired the prosecutor. they must've called up mr. obama. he must have known. do you want the people that represent the swamp and corruption? pence'srump's -- mr.

son or daughter, i cannot believe they would let their so .s enrich themselves like that they cannot even speak the language or have any experience. i think if anybody wants to read the transcripts for themselves and think about the hysteria in the news, the blood sport that politics has become and how hysterical the democratics are that are running and the audacity for them to accuse mr. trump of something that is a fake when mr. biden's son was getting all that money. thank you very much. i would like to hear the democrats talk about that. the washington times has this headline. trump imposes the lowest refugee

cap ever. will accept just 18,000 refugees this fiscal year, the lowest number since the modern refugee system was created nearly 40 years ago. the president announced major changes to the refugee program, setting aside 5000 for refugees fleeing religious persecution. those all count against the 18,000 cap. trump backs off plan to offer ideas to curb gun violence. he has abandoned the idea of releasing proposals to combat gun violence that is white house debated for months following mass shootings in august. a reversal from the summer when the president insisted he would offer policies to curb firearm deaths. he has been counseled by political advisers that gun

legislation could splinter his political coalition, which she needs to stick together for his reelection bid. jerome, good morning. you are on the air. caller: i have just got one thing to say. it is plain and simple. think of the republicans donald trump the best person for this country, look at this country. we are not only divided inside, we are divided outside. donald trump has separated us from our allies. he has separated us from anybody who would support us. if you think this country is safe now with donald trump in office, you have got a sad thing coming. host: who do you like this year? caller: any of the democratic candidates is better than donald trump. donald trump has done nothing but separate this country.

everything he has said has separated this country from our allies. do you think we have an ally who would back us if donald trump ?sked he has put russia and turkey in charge of the middle east. continuedrepublicans to support donald trump and his values and think that is what america wants and deserves. that our allies are going to support and send their troops to die for, no. america is dead with donald trump in office. host: stan is in florida. independent caller. it is called taking something of value from a foreign country. just like he did from putin

during the election. have the democrats done -- i am voting for joe biden. i think elizabeth warren is too far to the left. what have democrats done for this country? how about social security, medicare, voting rights, veterans choice? trump did not do veterans choice. google it. president obama did it. trump reauthorized it. veterans trice was done by obama. google it. you will see. who was the first president to bring in veterans choice? you will get the answer. august 7, 2014, obama. president trump just added money to it.

what have democrats done? social security, medicare, veterans choice. donald trump, you cannot even watch tv anymore with him because you have to turn it down. making fun of the handicapped, really president. call obama all these names, elizabeth warren all these names, you cannot even watch tv. the guy swears and lies. he is the divider in chief. elizabeth warren is good. i think she is too far left. amy or pete to see or biden. host: thank you for calling. indicating some of the democrats he might like. jane writes that bernie sanders is her choice. millions of our citizens are without basic health care and

millions have gone bankrupt trying to stay alive. for-profit health care is destroying this country. here is bernie sanders last night in iowa talking to the crowd about politics and how whatrats need him to end they are calling status quo politics. [video clip] >> at the end of the day, the democratic party's of iowa, vermont, of every state in this country have got to make a fundamental decision -- do we continue the status quo politics which has enabled the wealthiest thele in our country, largest corporations and their lobbyists to have extraordinary influence over the economic and political life of this country? >> no. >> no is the right answer.

that is where the republican party is and has always been. as democrats, it seems to me that we must chart a very different path. income andf massive wealth inequality, the democratic party must become the party of the working class of this country. pacs, not of corporate interests, not of their lobbyists, and in that regard i am very proud to tell you that our campaign has received more campaign contributions from more people than any candidate in the politicsf presidential up until this point in the

campaign. missouri,icia, republican caller. who do you like in 2020 and tell us why? caller: i like trump. the reason why i would vote for trump again and maybe again after that if he were able to run for two more terms is because, for one thing, concerning the wall that is being built between the u.s. and wall is a good idea. for another thing, the mexican that are drugs, bringing in drugs, guns, warfare, they are going to dig through anyway. it doesn't matter if we build a wall. it is good for people to feel protected.

mexicans cannot come into this country the goal like all the other countries on this earth that come in with their passports, come in with their becomeand a lot of them united states citizens. we don't have fences against those people. we are doing it against mexicans because they are coming over here in this country, and they are illegal. they don't have passports. they don't have a green card. i agree with building a wall. pelosi and i forget the , the democratic party. i used to be democrat. i am not going to be democratic anymore. all they want to do is stand on national tv and argue with every word that comes out of president trump's mouth.

president trump is a very intelligent person. he speaks clearly. idiots not speak like an like the democratic party. i'm sorry if i am upsetting people. people have closed minds. they don't pay attention to what is being said and how. what really offends me is how the democratic party and stand up there and fight donald trump and the republican party, and yet young people watch this, and no wonder, we have bullying going on in this country. we have prejudice going on in this country. because of the way the democratic party fights the republican party. it is time for it to stop. an adult over 18 years of age, you should act like an adult and represent yourself. host: patricia calling, trump

supported. we are under 10 minutes left, asking folks about their favorite candidates. here is president trump at that rally last night. [video clip] >> we have great military. it was very depleted. when i came into office, it was very depleted. it is not depleted anymore. al-baghdadi, the founder and leader. you kept hearing about him for a long time. where is al-bag hdadi? the following day we got number two. i don't know if you read about that. he was the founder and leader of isis. he is dead. he was a savage and soulless

ein of terrorhis r is over. -- his reign of terror is over. ticket to hell, i guess you could say. he spent his last miserable moments on earth cowering and crumbling in fear of the american warrior that was right there. no enemy stands a chance against the righteous might of the united states military. host: we will have more about isis later in the program. we will talk about the future of isis following the death of its leader. our guest will be michael ryan of the jamestown foundation.

who is your favorite for 2020 and why? caller: my favorite is bernie sanders, but i would like to stand a little later on a caller earlier about wire these republicans going for trump? has made a mockery of the sanctity of the office of president. stand up there in front of newscasters and touts his personal business products. he tries to use his personal hotels for gain. let's talk about being a traitor, dealing with russia, and it is unbelievable. he has become a russian pond. korea is laughing behind his back. he has made a fool of us in front of the entire world.

says whatever audience he is in front of, he tells them what they want to hear. he lies about everything, just telling you what you want to hear. how can you tell somebody like john mccain that i prefer people who weren't captured? how can he tell lieutenant colonel vindman that he was a traitor because he was born in ukraine and call him a scumbag? host: thank you for calling. the wall street journal, if you want to read more details about elizabeth warren's medicare for all policy, they have a couple of details. taxes on the wealthy parts companies. the medicare for all plan would leave a sizable imprint on the u.s. economy, altering consumer

spending and business investment while upending the health care sector. trillion.$20 the plan includes immigration policy changes that would expand the labor force and consumer base. lots of details about elizabeth warns plan. -- warrens plan. one more clip from the iowa event last night, senator kamala harris. [video clip] >> when in america there is a mother who is in a parking lot of a hospital, afraid to walk through the doors to get to the emergency room with her child because she knows if she walks through those doors, she will be out of pocket a $4000 to dockable. health care justice is on the

ballot -- deductible. health care justice is on the ballot, so i am running for president to make sure there is medicare for all. not medicare for some, medicare for all to bring down costs. ensure that you also get choice because i heard some , don'that said kamala take away my opportunity to have a private plane. you will get a public or private plan depending on your choice. in waukesha, wisconsin. independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. i won't speak to one party or the other. i personally believe bernie sanders. i believe in his energy. i believe in what he is going to be doing. andso believe in tom spear some other candidates that have history.

this country needs some serious changes. that is why trump was elected. changes thatg for are going to take us to the next century. need real business people and energized leaders to take us there. what we have been experiencing has been disheartening for me. as a country, we need to grow. we need to evolve. we cannot stay stuck in this previous century. i think back to one of my favorite presidents, jimmy carter. would he try to do for the american people in office and after office, -- what he tried to do for the american people in office and after office, we need people like that that will take us to the next level. thank you for having me. host: arthur from tennessee,

democrat. who is your favorite candidate and tell us why? caller: my favorite candidate is elizabeth warren. host: how come? caller: elizabeth has everything going for her. she believes in helping everybody. said the mexicans were going to pay for the wall. what happened to that? warren winszabeth the nomination, can she be president? i think that caller might be gone. that was our last call. thank you for everyone that called in on campaign 2020. as the do more of this days and weeks ahead. we have some live programming this weekend to tell you about later. we are going to take a short break and then talk with russ feingold, the former democratic senator from wisconsin to talk about his editorial in usa today

about his experience with the impeachment trial of bill clinton. later, we will talk about the future of isis. our guest will be michael ryan of the jamestown foundation. we want to let you know about our newsmaker program this week. republican representative mike -- talking about the past weeks development on potential impeachment proceedings against president trump. clip,s short representative johnson takes a phone call. [video clip] >> should the president release the entire phone call, word for word, to resolve this? i don't know whether there is a recording of the call. i suppose there may be. but what we are told is that it's customary for there to be a memo kind of transcript, a summary of the call. which we understand is drafted by a number of persons lift --

listening in. a lot of faith has been put into the credibility and the accuracy of that transcript. this is part of the fact-finding that should be going on in my committee and the house judiciary committee. we are supposed to have jurisdiction over this and we can have a fear hearing -- a fair hearing. we have not had an opportunity to do that, the resolution that was passed today does not allow for fairness, that's why we voted for fairness. it allows for continued unilateral authority, first to chairmanships and then ultimately to chairman nadler. they have ultimate authority to .eto with the other side may do that's our concern. we don't know there will ever be of fairness in this process and we can flush out those questions. >> should a president of the united states ask a foreign ,ower to investigate someone

and it would benefit the president politically? is that appropriate? >> what the president was asking his should -- for an investigation of an event that happened years earlier. the transcript reflects this, he was not asking for dirt on a future political opponent for something that would happen in the future, he was trying to get to the bottom of corruption that many americans, millions of americans have concerns about. these are unanswered questions and it's appropriate for leaders and heads of state to have these dialogues about things like that. there was some deep corruption involved, the president i think was justified in his yield to get answers on that. on its face, that's what it comes down to when you argue the substance, some people may quibble about whether it was appropriate for the president to say it in the way that he did, but this is not impeachable conduct, this is not a high crime misdemeanor. at the end of the day that will be the inevitable conclusion

that most americans will see and understand. >> washington journal continues. host: joining us is russ feingold, a former senator from wisconsin. talking about these interesting times during the break. take us back to another interesting time, 1990 eight, you were just reelected for a second term. bill clinton was being impeached . what was the time then compared to now? it feels very different, the president made some serious personal mistakes, in the congressional elections he did not lose ground, he picked up some ground congressionally. everyone was largely surprised when just before the holidays the house decided to impeach president clinton. verynk we knew there was little chance that once there was a trial that he would actually be convicted. it had an unreal quality.

as i was trying to indicate we took the job seriously nonetheless. this feels very different. this feels like a president who is truly out of control and has been gradually building up as a concern over the last 2.5 years. now we are in a situation where there is, in effect, the thing they said they were looking for in watergate. a smoking gun indicating that the president does not looking -- working for the people of the united states. this has a more real and authentic quality. even when it seemed there was not a great deal to the charges against pleasant -- president clinton, fundamentally with his regard to doing anything endangering to the country, we took it seriously then. and it should be taken seriously now. host: one of the reasons we brought you on is because what you wrote in usa today. for clinton,nt justice tops politics, tell us what you're saying. guest: the founders of our

country deserve our respect, they were specific about impeachment. it had been abused in parliament in england for a couple hundred years and they were afraid of too many impeachments. they made it difficult but they did feel, because they were creating a presidency that had a fair amount of power, that they had to make it possible to terminate a presidency that was essentially acting against the interest of the united states or violating the public trust. that is exactly the approach that our country took. and they required an oath in the constitution. we hear the oath every four years, and members of congress have to take an oath. but there's a separate requirement that those who sit in the trial and impeachment in the senate have to be there, they have to vote and the oath requires you to say under oath that i will do impartial justice, so help me god. to have an invitation political battle, it's an invitation to listen to the

evidence and do impartial justice. that's the way it should be taken. host: we have a half-hour with our guest, russ feingold talking about impeachment and other issues to read the phone numbers are on the bottom of the screen. for democrats, ,202) 748-8001 for republicans for independents (202) 748-8002. of the senatember during the bill clinton impeachment, you are the only democrat to oppose the motion to dismiss the charges. does that get back to what you are saying a moment ago? why did you vote that way? guest: i really thought, even though you are not literally a juror, you are along with 99 other people who have to determine the facts and whether the law applies under the constitution.

i sat down thinking this was not going to be much of a case, but to be honest, when the house managers came in and made their case i thought, and a few other democratic senators shared with me, they did fairly well in terms of putting out the possibility that president clinton had obstructed justice. we heard those arguments, then we heard the arguments of white house lawyers, who are also very good. at that point i assume that we would then hear the evidence, or be able to examine the facts that they had been alleging. to democratic caucus decided move to dismiss the case before we heard the evidence. to me that was wrong, based my belief that there was a possibility that the evidence would support that this was an impeachable offense. and the republicans of course wanted to hear the evidence and i was only democrat to hear the evidence. we watched the depositions and by the end, i realize the president and his conduct had more to do with trying to conceal his personal behavior

from his own family, rather than trying to conceal it from the federal -- the fbi and investigators. so i did not feel that there had been the intent shown to show that he had committed obstruction of justice. but i can only make that determination after giving a fair chance to the evidence. that's exactly what needs to be done if there is going to be in impeachment trial of president trump. host: with president trump and the impeachment inquiry, the democrats have taken a lot of criticism from the other side about their process. they are making a lot of process arguments three what do you make of them? host: they are pre-much nonsense. there is nothing wrong with having an investigation, having it some -- done in the background. the other impeachment investigations that i witnessed, the nixon impeachment and the clinton attempted impeachment, there were red invest -- there were investigations and reports by special counsel.

they did not have an open hearing every time they spoke to a witness. you have to do the background checking and many people safe like a grand jury situation and it's appropriate to do that. they have brought it out in the open, they had the formal beginning of the inquiry and they will have open hearings. so this is nothing but an excuse , and the president is realizing that it's flimsy, saying i don't want to talk about process anymore. this has been a red herring. guest: steve scalise, the gop majority with was asked about democrats tactics. we will show a short clip and come back. [video clip] >> when we talk about the vote it's important to note, when you see that not only that every single republican reject the soviet style impeachment process, but we were joined by democrats who could not stand it anymore. if you look at where we are right now, we are at an important point in history. clearly there are people that we serve with that do not like the result of the 2016 election.

that's their prerogative. but the country next year will be deciding who our president is going to be. it should not be nancy pelosi in a small group of people that she selects daegis to determine who will be our president. if you look at the resolution they talk about fairness. if they really think that they can tell people it's fair that only the chairman gets to decide who the witnesses are, and they give us an opportunity to call witnesses, but if the chair says they don't like the witnesses the witnesses don't come forward. they allow the president to have legal counsel in the room, unless the chair decides that they don't want the president's legal counsel in the room. that's never happened before. with the clinton impeachment, with the nixon impeachment, republican and democrat alike, both sides could call witnesses. the president's legal counsel was in the room not at the discretion of the chair but because it's fair. so when you look at the soviet

style process, it shows that they don't really want to get to the truth. they want to remove a sitting president. in fact the author of the articles of impeachment says if they do not impeach the president, he will get reelected. that's not why we have impeachment. alexander hamilton made it very clear, his concern, when they were trying to promote the constitution was that he did not want to see impeachment used for political purposes. yes that -- yet that is what is happened today. it's a sham, it should not have happened, it's a tainted process that adam schiff has been conducting that nadler might one day conduct. the house deserves better, the people of this country deserve better, we should be tackling real problems. guest: -- host: he calls it a soviet style process, what do you call it? guest: anyone who looks at the facts and suggest that this is just politics is not thinking

about the interest of this country domestically or internationally. the president has engaged in extremely inappropriate conduct at a minimum. the idea that it's only politics to look at the fact that he was talking on the phone with the president of the ukraine and withholding aid in return for he -- a promised investigation of joe biden and his son is something other than just politics. if the house was not investigating this and considering impeachment, they would be dropping their responsibilities. speakers did not want -- the speakers did not want to go this way. but the facts became so overwhelming, regardless of politics, that they had no choice. they are doing the right thing. and it's only the beginning of the process. impeachment is like an indictment. in the senate you have the overwhelming burden of two thirds of the members of the senate to actually convict someone and remove them from office.

this process is perfectly reasonable, and there are many other stages where there will be input for those who want to defend the president. host: let's go to the calls. tj on the independent line. caller: i'm calling to see how can we shorten this impeachment process and come to a fair decision to all political parties, independence, democrats, and republicans. i think realistically probably the fastest the house could do their investigation and provide the opportunity for the president's counsel in the president's defense would probably be just before the holidays. it will probably end up very similar to 1999, where the house to the impeachment right near the end of 1998, the senate came back, we had the swearing in of the senators and we immediately went to the trial. i suspect that will be the same

thing. in that case it took five weeks. the impeachment trial of president johnson took longer, a few months. this will take some time, but i think it is something that could be resolved if everyone has a chance to have their say and look at the evidence, probably within a month or so. this any concerns that will bump into the presidential primary? guest: it will and that's a problem, that's a problem for some candidates, those in the senate are not allowed to leave to go out and campaign easily under the senate rules. it is theoretically possible. but some things are more important. under constitution, this trial has to be conducted properly. the candidates will have to get out there trial. jack, from scottsdale, arizona, on the republican line. trump won wisconsin, the

people of wisconsin picked the right president. this started with obama, there was spying on him and the concluded with their conspiracy theory. it started with impeachment the .ay he was elected and it has been a conspiracy. a friend of mine has a friend in the pentagon who said once the , do younts start flying think the impeachment thing will go on? it will end quickly, because the democrats are going to freak out over all -- the truth always comes out in the end. so senator, you better get ready, buckle up.

the democrats have big problems ahead, not the republicans. host: thanks. guest: the people who have been coming forward to tell the story of what president trump did with regard to his conversation with the president of the ukraine are certainly not democrats, and are not part of any democratic conspiracy. even democrats in the house have been somewhat stunned by the testimony. i happen to know a couple of these people from when i was working in the state department. i'm aware of the reputation of others. these are not political operatives. they are people who were hired and worked for the trump white house and have now seen something that they could not stomach because they have devoted their lives to protecting this country and protecting the people of this country. instead what they heard was there president of the united states doing something plain shocking and against the national security interests of this country, putting himself in his political future ahead of the united states of america. that's not a conspiracy, that's

just -- a terrible act. the president did win narrowly in wisconsin, what you attribute that razor thin victory in wisconsin and forecast out of 2020 in your estate? guest: it was a trend, it was also in minnesota, michigan, pennsylvania, ohio, all across the upper midwest were suddenly the support that hillary clinton had seemed to fall, and barely the president was able to win. it was an emotion and a feeling that came, particularly in the rural areas. we are not comfortable the democratic candidate and donald trump is talking about bringing back jobs. -- managed totled produce enough support for this was not a wisconsin specific issue. i think things have shifted. we have elected a democratic governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and state treasurer in 2018.

and i believe we have an excellent chance to have a democratic nominee defeat a republican nominee, whether it's president trump or someone who succeeds him. russ feingold was the democratic senator from wisconsin from 1993 to 2011, three terms right? guest: that's right. host: let's go to betty, from virginia beach on the democrat line. caller: good morning. mr. feingold, senator feingold, you are one of my favorites. even though i live in virginia, i'm originally from connecticut and i'm going to move back there. in tom sawyer's need to impeach group and i'm for joe biden for president and very impressed with mayor pete. but now i'm glad that nancy

pelosi did wait. now she has the one thing they should concentrate on, this telephone call with the ukrainian president. i am hoping and praying that they write up the articles and vote on them before they go on the holiday break in december. i don't want them to drag it on. and when they come back in january, it will get turned over to the senate, that's my greatest wish. and i would have voted for you for president in a heartbeat. i think you're a wonderful guy and i wish you would run again. and i hope and pray that they can take back the senate as well, or they won't get anything done. that's all i have to say, god bless you and good morning to all of the people. host: thank you betty. guest: i appreciate the kind words. and i think you are right, the simplicity of the fact situation

with regard to what the president did with the president of ukraine does make it a lot more likely that people will feel that the impeachment has to go forward. i remember when all of the stuff came out, just a cast of characters and you have to figure out all of the different fact situations. even though it could have been justifiable to conclude that there was an obstruction of justice, it's hard for people to follow. this one is simple this was a phone conversation that the president knows is problematic, where people can look at it and say do i want my president of the united states to be calling up foreign leaders and asking them to dig up dirt on his political opponents or they don't get their aid? i think if every american were honest with themselves they would say this is wrong, and that's the type of thing that will allow the american people to evaluate if there should be an impeachment. this is about removing the

president of the united states from office, who was duly elected, as much as i did not want that to happen, that is what happened. impeachment is serious and the american people need to understand it and be behind it. that's where i think we are finally at with this shocking thing that he did. host: any concern at the pursuit of the cases to narrow? -- too narrow? host: i think -- guest: i think people know there are all kinds of things the president has done that makes him unfit for office. he has violated the norms and rules of the presidency. he has instructed witnesses to not respect subpoenas from congress. there's a whole range of things that are part of the picture. but if you're going to have a vote on a particular article of impeachment, i think it's a good idea to focus on a particular situation that's unforgivable.

that no president of the united states can be excused for. and i think that's what we have with the ukrainian story. host: there is a headline, as trump moves to bully witness, democrat see obstruction -- democrats see obstruction. guest: there would probably be an article of impeachment on the facts of the quid pro quo, but yes, obstruction of justice as well, when i start talking about refusal to honor subpoenas, that is in the category of obstruction of obstruction of justice and has to be answered. if we don't say that donald trump can do that, what president will respect any subpoena? you destroy the balance of power and separation of power in our system that was so carefully crafted. if you don't stand up for the rule of law, we have to do that. and that's what we have to do. twice in aou lost reelection bid, do you have

another senate candidacy in mind ? do you have it in you? guest: i'm not looking to run for office, but i'm eager to see things repaired after the damage that has been done. let's go to gary, in plano, texas. like to giveld some comments to the last caller. anator feingold, what gentleman, what an american, what a patriot. this is one of the best guess to have had on your show that i can remember in many years. so let me start out by saying this. my family is from georgia, marietta georgia. newt gingrich country. we moved to plano, which is right next to frisco, republican bastion.

i am a director at a hospital hear and what i see, from many people, including republicans, and this is a 100% republican area, is the president has overstepped his bounds. going back to the mueller report. ,hen i go to the barnes & noble the line was wrapped around the store just to get this book. mine sits on my fireplace. that mueller report is unbelievable. testimony,ts, the the redact -- forget the redaction's, we are americans, and for the callers who called in and say they are republicans and they honor the flag, and our founding fathers, benjamin

hamilton,alexander people who sat in rooms writing the constitution under indlelight, if you can call to this show and talk to your children before they go to sleep at night and tell them to honor the constitution, to take your history classes seriously, and to tell the truth, republicans wake up. let me get my question. understand about the democratic party, i'm an , for every c-span archive tape of lindsey graham and all the republicans, this is for the dnc, pull up the tapes , onthe clinton impeachment

the republican house floor and resolutions for impeachment, pull up the tape from the impeachment trial. come on nancy pelosi, come on democrats, come on republicans, pull up the tape. thent the tape to reflect entire country, so they can see what we said in our congress, in closed doors,hind private, lindsey graham famously quoted that. among other republicans. we should get a response, senator feingold? guest: those tapes should come out and anyone can look at the president and say he's out of abound -- out of bounds, in exactly the way the founders thought that some one should be removed. i cannot imagine people not seeing it. saying -- this persistently

working for his own interest, not the interests of the united states of america. that is something i hope more and more americans, including republicans, can be honest with themselves and say this person is really not asking like a president. host: i want to show website, what you are familiar with, campaign for nature.org, our guest is the honorary ambassador for the campaign for nature convention on biodiversity. this campaign, why you got involved and what you see in the world and what the potential solutions are? guest: i appreciate you bringing this up, one of the problems with all of this focus on impeachment is that we are not getting to some of the absolutely critical issues that face our country and face the planets. people are aware of the climate change crisis, which was highlighted by some of the biggest protests in history, and

around the world a few weeks ago. but there is a similar and related crisis that requires attention. that's what this campaign for nature is about, if the threat of extinction, the threat of a million species potentially extinct according to leading scientists. this is the type of threat that we have. -- 30% of all30% birds in america have died, are gone. and many species that we know, bobbins and others, are actually declining dramatically. we have a crisis which is frightening from the point of view of loss of animals, loss of fish, loss of a lot of species, but it threatens humanity. our ability to eat, to be safe, to survive. it reaches the point where you lose so much of the national area -- natural area we have to

do something. this is helping to promote 30% of the planets water and land be preserved by 2030, it's convective with a -- connected with a convention on biodiversity. there's a major conference in china next october which is similar to the paris climate accord. we are hoping all of the nations in the world will commit to a serious effort to preserve this planet. if we don't, the scientists tell us it will be too late. the good news is that there are ways to reverse it. you can restore land, you can preserve forests and it will have an impact on making sure we have less climate change of a negative kind and making sure that humanity can eat and survive. host: and in washington, what specific message would you have? guest: that it's time to be aware of that issue. it's time for people to see that this is equally important in .erms of climate change

and even though we have to worry about the problems with the president and the political fighting that goes on, this is something we can do together as a part of this effort. i got a hold of some of my former colleagues, it's amazing, 17 democrats and republicans, people like senator mel martinez and others, they were happy to -- ton to a letter from preserve 30% of the planet. part of it is that we, as americans and people love the planet. we love animals and nature and we have to recommit ourselves to that and work on that in a positive way. and at the same time we have to deal with some divisive issues that we are dealing with. we have a caller from our republican line in texas. rememberumber one, i right after the inauguration when president trump was sworn

in. iwent surfing news channels, came across one, it was within half an hour that some person on that channel made the comment that it's time to impeach. so where did that come from? if it did not start then, when did it start, the cannot be said that it's not political. the man had not been in office for 30 minutes and i saw it myself. nott: of course that would be a valid thing to just say you are going to impeach no matter what. and you see it has been many years, the president is getting near the end of his first term and there has not been a serious attempt to impeach him until now . so i think what you're seeing is that cooler heads prevailed, and people realize that impeachment is a serious step and there has to be something that justifies it. you should try to avoid impeachment if you can, we cannot have people just elected and say ok let's impeach them.

i agree, that's not right. but what has happened now is that it's clear that this 's general dishonesty, which was frightful and emmons traded early when he lied about having a larger crowd than obama, it's using illicit ways -- he has lied and used illicit ways to influence foreign leaders. that's an overwhelming ground to remove him from office. a legitimate impeachment have bipartisan support in every case? do you favor letting the court settled the emoluments clause issue? guest: you cannot have conviction without bipartisan support. it would be impossible with republican geordie and of some republicans don't decide to support the idea of convicting the president it cannot happen. the founders, even though they did not like political parties, the weight still works is that it is essentially impossible --

the way it still works is that it's essentially impossible to have one removed unless it is bipartisan. we all know this will not lead to the removal unless there is an impartial trial where people conclude he has done some and that requires his removal from office. less call -- last call. caller: one thing i am not hearing that democrats emphasizes that if trump is not impeached, this is implicitly giving trump licensed to amp up his efforts to involve other nations in our political process . this should be a major factor that comes forward and the impeachment proceedings. if donald trump is not explicitly stopped, he will not stop. the next day he will be on the phone with other foreign leaders to exploit whatever means he could to sway the election in his favor. guest: i couldn't agree more. it's essential that the house impeach is the president based on these facts.

even if we know there is a possibility that this won't be taken seriously and the senate will not convict, it will make a difference, if the historical record shows that this is the third president in american history to be impeached by the house. if we don't do it we are saying go ahead, review subpoenas, call up foreign leaders and ask up -- ask for stuff for yourself and your political future. it is critical the house does this, and maybe the senate will end up doing its job as well and give this a serious look. but i could not agree with you more, this has to be done. host: as we wrap up, i did want to bring out this story, a new study says that rising seas threatens the time -- three times as many people as thought, not so much because of the sea levels but because of the estimates of people living on low ground. so final thoughts about the environment and what you are trying to achieve with your organization? guest: this involves land and water. a lot of the emphasis is about the oceans, not only the warming

of the ocean but overfishing and the things you are describing. this is a global task. it will be big and involve financing from people like weisse, whose contribute in a billion dollars to this cause and developed nations are finally realizing that if we just help others, it's not going to hurt them, it's going to hurt us. it will make it hard for it to survive and hard for people who live by the oceans to live where they want to live. a senator feingold, from wisconsin from 1993 to 2011, currently the honorary ambassador to the campaign for nature. thank you for joining us, please come back to the table. we will take another short timeout with a couple more guests this morning on the washington journal. will discuss the future of isis after the death

of its leader, and we will get an update on those devastating wildfires in california with a former fire fighter who is now an adviser. we will be right back. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ look tv has coverage of the recent boston book festival beginning at 2:00 eastern with his captions on violence. >> it's common to say in the area of gun violence that we need more research. implicit inmption that statement is that we don't really know what works to reduce gun violence. that is not true in relation to urban gun violence. is the mostolence rigorously studied form of gun violence. >> american foreign policy. >> the failure in syria goes back a long way, does not begin with donald trump, it began with the fact that the united states,

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and 24th. at c-span.org, we are making it easier to watch c-span's coverage of the impeachment inquiry and the administration's response. if you missed any of our live coverage, go to our impeachment inquiry page at c-span.org/impeachment for video on demand. we have added a tally from the associated press showing where each house democrats stands on the inquiry against president trump. follow the impeachment inquiry on our webpage at c-span.org/impeachment. at your fast and easy way to watch c-span's unfiltered coverage, anytime. washington journal continues. michael talk now with ryan, a senior fellow at the jamestown foundation. we ask you to talk about the killing of the isis leader, abu

bakr al-baghdadi, and what's next for the terrorist organization. how significant is his death? it's very significant, he's a symbol of everything that holds the organization together. he has been the highest religious authority for however many people look to him, active or inactive. it's very significant symbolically, and in terms of cohesion of the organization, it's probably less significant for the fate of syria and the local surroundings. because the organization still exists, the ideology still exists and all of the factors. he was quite isolated even though he was very important. he no doubt gave some directions, but it's a decentralized organization.

the fact that he is not there is very important for morale. ,t's very important for symbols but probably not important for activity. host: i will ask more about the activity, it is scattered but still exists, a lot of what we read in the country suggest that isis is gone, what should people know? guest: what they should know is that we assign names to these groups because you have to have something to hang your hat on when you write a story or you talk as we are about isis and al qaeda. but they are very decentralized organizations. they are networks of like-minded , they are called jihadi -- it's not islam but an aberration of islam, it's very radical and violent.

as long as there are a substantial number of people who believe in this we will always have a problem with terrorism. host: our phone numbers are at the bottom of the screen. we will take your calls on the killings of the isis leader and what is next for isis, the terrorist group. and tell us about the jamestown foundation, what does it do? give: it was founded to people who were coming from the soviet union, in the beginning, to have a platform to talk about thought. jamestown tries to focus on journalismormation, and has people all over the world and a few people here in washington. they write about terrorism, russia, china, it's not a think tank, it's a research organization. host: our guest is a senior fellow in the middle east security area of the jamestown

foundation, his career also includes work in the middle east institute where he was vice president, the u.s. epa, the state department, the defense department and the defense intelligence agency dating back to 1979. here's a headline, isis statements portray intent to exact revenge for baghdadi. when islamic state finally broke at silence it did so in a 1200 word communique that included tributes and a specific warning, americans would pay for the death of the terrorist groups leader. what ability does isis have to strike back, following the killing of its leader? where would they be focusing? guest: clearly americans are at traveling overseas depending upon where they are. but they don't have the ability, complexthink, to get a

attack on the united states together such as we saw for 9/11 at this time. i think they would love to do so. they do have the ability to inspire people who may have other grievances and who are influenced by the ideologies i've mentioned, they can attack and do the kinds of attacks we have seen in europe and the united states. we see much less of that. and i hope there is none. host: i should ask about money. when it hadfinanced all of that land, that caliphate , how was it financed now? how is it changed? guest: it has to be like any organization that is a terrorist , when they are in power, they made money from tariffs and put tariffs on trucks that came over the border . fields.m the oil

organization,t which they have become again, basically makes money off of criminal activity. they kidnap people, steal, smuggle, they can do anything from selling antiquities that toy have come across basically blackmailing families to get someone back. they make money out of criminal activities. generally when you see a smuggling operation you will see terrorists tagging along, because that's how they live when they are not in power. host: lots more to ask, but let's get in some calls. eric, on the democrat line. caller: good morning. thank you. , youhas made a statement

have the watch but we have the time, we are not going anywhere. they are saying there's no way we are going to lose, this is our land, we do not need to be the policeman of the world, killing baghdadi, that could be a lie from president trump. president trump had opportunities to go fight in the military himself and claimed bone spurs, but he can play tennis. he has no responsibility for killing isis. he aggregated the controls of the military to the generals and others, they can do what they want. so he deserves no credit for this. he's a coward. thank you. host: thoughts about president trump? guest: i don't have any particular thoughts about president trump, i do have thoughts about general mckenzie who announced this in the military and who performed the operation.

i believe them and that they did an excellent job. we don't know a lot about it. we won't know a lot. things will come out and we will find out more. the president, that's not my expertise. host: what about the president's decision to leave syria? guest: it was disastrous. the successful strategy we had was working with local people. with few americans on the ground. people think of getting out of the middle east, i hope they don't mean in the military that they mean our special forces, because they do many things and little of it is actually fighting. they are in small numbers relatively speaking, they andide a liaison, training, they provide intelligence in the sense that they are there and they see things and hear things. without them, we will be blind.

i think it's a mistake and i think what you are seeing in syria is a breakdown of the gettingat was there, by a few but important men out at the wrong time. host: in syria, a pass open for assad's advance. that he got back control of much of his country with the help of russia and iran and is poised to take back the rest. what does that mean? guest: it means the kind of rule that we know happened in, repressive, brutal, will now spread and continue. it means the kurds have to worry about being under him. the reason you have so much isical activity in syria now due to a terrible tyrant. host: let's go to the republican

line. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. correct.is exactly i agree with everything he has said. we should not have been pulled of our special forces in syria. thei also want to applaud president and delta force who conducted this raid on the bank -- on baghdadi. that will go down as the most successful, classic air assault raid, and i cannot wait until somebody writes a book or presents a movie. raid andan awesome very effective. they went in very hard. they accomplished their mission. they got out. just a classic military raid.

myself, kudos to delta force. i have to think the caller for his service. i agree with what he said. the military operation that went in was truly amazing. the thing i have not heard people talking about is the fact that it seems clear that our special forces did not go in .here to kill baghdadi they wanted to capture him, which would have been a better outcome in my opinion. i obviously don't know. it was with great danger to themselves that they flew across syria the way they did, if what we are hearing is correct. that they were on the ground in is alsoangerous area tremendous. we cannot have enough praise for

them, it's a tremendous accomplishment. i wish they had not killed him not because i don't think he deserved it but because i would have liked to known what he had to tell us if we had him in custody. host: here is a piece of president trump's remarks making the announcement last sunday about the killing of the isis leader. actually, we will get to that, let's get in another call, lauren, on the independent line. caller: good morning. mr. ryan, may i ask you something? what is wrong with the president's policies of in general extracting the united states? are people, our money, our soldiers, from an area riddled with conflicts for hundreds of years? moreover the gulf arabs are

rich, israel is a manufacturing giant given its size. what's wrong with having those two countries essentially do the policing role in the middle east? thank you. guest: to answer your question directly, i think it's correct not to have large numbers of in the middle east that are not allies and do not want us there in the first place. i think it was a mistake to go into iraq. that created more problems. i think it's a mistake to have a large number of troops anywhere in the middle east. however i think it is important to have the kind of special forces present that i spoke about for the reasons that i mentioned. it's not a matter of people taking care of themselves, they showed and we should not be

there policeman. but we do need to go -- to know what's going on and asking our own interest. which means we need to know as much as possible about the region. host: we do have that clip from president trump last sunday. [video clip] demonstrate the americas were lightless pursuit of terrorist leaders and our commitment to the enduring and total defeat of isis, and other terrorist organizations. , as youh is very long know last month we announced the we recently killed violent sun of osama bin laden, who was saying very bad things about our country, people, the world. he was the heir apparent to al qaeda. who oppress and

murder innocent people should never sleep soundly, knowing that we will completely destroy them. these savage monsters will not escape their fate, and they will not escape the final judgment of god. baghdadi has been on the run for many years, long before i took office. but at my direction, as commander in chief of the united states, we obliterated his caliphate, 100% in march of this year. are anotherts reminder that we will continue isisrsue the remaining terrorists to their brutal end. that also goes for other terrorist organizations. they are likewise in our sites. pullout,k to the syria

you explain what your thoughts were on that, how does the u.s. and allies continue to pursue isis following the pullout? what the future approach? guest: i don't think the future approach should be much different. allies,to depend on our our friends, and our partners in the region. presence,need a large but we do need good intelligence and good relations with local militaries and security forces. we have programs to do that, all presidents have used them, theher it's training military like we do, or just also to know the cultures. julia, from south carolina on the democrat line. caller: good morning. havenk, since we

-- isisted a lot of the with kurds, what are we doing for the kurds now, since we left desert?dering in the have we done anything for them? guest: thank you for the question. suddenly saying from one day to another that the nots are on their own was repaying them for their help for taking down the caliphate. after all, they did a lot of the underground fighting and lost over 11,000 men and women and many others were injured. now,i hope we are doing

despite our early statement, is retrenching a bit. that we will not leave them totally alone. but the fact of the matter is the syrian army and forces are moving into the area. the kurds will have to deal with them and look to them, rather than to us to help them out, since they live there. the kurds are not going away. part of thatrge part of syria. they will survive, but it is a shame that we have treated them shabbily. host: brian is in kansas, good morning. caller: good morning. whatyan, i often wonder could have been the conversation between erdogan and president him pull our

troops out so rapidly that we are bombing our own munitions and equipment, almost like we did in vietnam in an emergency evacuation. certainly turkey could not have movetened us if we did not our troops from the border. i would think president trump would have stood up and said if you do there will be serious consequences. thender what you think conversation could have been to force us to evacuate like that? guest: i don't know what would have made us evacuate that quickly in that fashion. what presidentw erdogan said. but he probably had some version of what he said in public very clearly, which is that they wanted to have a safety zone

along their border, which travels along syria, because they do not want to have the kurds close to the border, because there are others inside turkey that he considers to be terrorists. he probably said he wanted to move his troops into a depth of 20 miles inside of syria and along the border. and basically populated with turkeys that settled in and that he would protect the border. if you are going to travel to syria there are only so many places you can get in, and the longest border that they could get in is with turkey.

if they could control that, they can control a lot of the activity that would have to come from iraq or jordan which is less likely. so i imagine it was one version of that which must've been persuasive. i oft: abdullah the new leader isis who is this man and what is like?ture look guest: i guess his future from tell, just reading this morning, is not very long may have been killed six months ago, a man by that name. there was an announcement, as man as the name hapb caliph. --

made up name. there may may be no one there. someone who has the prophet's tribe and it is generally -- we know. it is interesting. i watch lots of people with lots experience who they thought come upld be and people with naimes. we have a clue whether there is a person in that position now and who that is. but it is ame symbolic. >> with all of that, there is a with a ton post" story hoto inside the teeming isis, broken man, and it paints the of these men y hollow eyed and gaunt and broken

cell.n a jail type what does that scene mean to you about that?d guest: it is horrible and the se we don't know and kurds can't know, who are these people into are isis people. quite young. it is a scene of overcrowding. the kurds don't have the to hold them. if they don't have the capacity o hold them, that means they won't be able to in the long run. that means they will be out. that we know any more -- there are supposed to be 23. that hard to believe. 3 some facilities which may be nothing more than a building they took over. so it is a horrible situation unfortunate that the usual

pia european countries don't take back some were them and we hould do the same and i think normal bly areed and use procedures to try them. it makes for a local problem. the syrian forces move in there the situation will be were worse. the kurds are not treating them brutally. to don't have the means hold them. that is what you see. page, this is from arizona, independent line. good morning, lester. thanks for taking my call. and of age, i nt feel like i'm back in 1972 again. -- is just amazing to me

and be i think so people call me isolationist or maybe a nationalist. fix this?n we we need a solution to get out of middle east. when the cold war ended in 1990 so and the wall came down, been dissolved. we have no business being in an in nato.with turkey could we not withdraw from syria if we are an ally with turkey? going on as president trump said for a long, long time. can't continue to have close homeless people in this country and worry about there. going on offense i understand special ops found a

need. we -- i worked in the former know how on and i people think, too. over there, esence egardless of how well intentioned did is, the people our interference. ost: thanks for calling, lester. guest: i think lester made some points. i don't think i agree. to ink most persons seem agree as well from what i read that we don't need a large the middle east. certainly we don't need combat numbers to be inside those countries. i don't think the accountants under those terms. lester also said he understood forces, e of special and i think we need to have

attachment we also flood -- have that. we also need to be heart it the fact that it is a very dangerous and also a, an area we have friends we have been with for a long time, as long as existed.blic has so we have to have an interest in the region. -- leave region but we don't need combat troops. calling from kalamazoo. aller: i have a few questions among those who have been around a while. we had a e 1990's, little war there with kuwait or there was an agreement signed but saddam would allow inspections. in 1998, december 16 i think to exact, clinton got tired

there was a him and four day war. fter that, there were no inspections for the rest of his term. u.n. would have forced that inspection through, president we me would have none what was going on in iraq and there would be no troops even if bush wanted to he would never have gotten the vote in the house and to go over there. host: what do you make of that? undeniable if there had been inspections we would saddam hussain was bluffing -- i'm sure you are the prince of serious weapons that he claimed he didn't have. i always thought they would

of east find one old shell chemical weapons that were left war, butm the iran-iraq we didn't find that for months after we were in there. i have to say i was not in favor of going in then. think we should have gone in. talking about into kuwait but into iraqment i think we broke a that area simply the because of the force we had to put in there and it was very states.to the united i think it should be a lesson to us. ut it is true, if we will none what we didn't know we wouldn't have gone in. any e should have gone in way. ost: a call from warfield, virginia. constance. caller: good morning. our allies at this point?

everybody.ienated the arabs? china? right now,o are they ur allies that we are supposed to have to depend on to help us. we have made our allies -- ouren mys and -- and we have made enemies our allies. say that caller people who rely on us have to this.about our word after we will have to wait and see about that. we have long-term friendships with any number of

countries in the region and some are friendly, they are simply so aw we work on counterterrorism with countries that are not friends at all. efficientectively. so i think the united states ignored. it is true if we ask people for or rs in the near future middle future we will have difficulty persuading anyone to favors.y but people depend on us. he united states is still the most powerful country formed and -- our principles are need to mired and we live up to them. ost: karl, kansas city, missouri, democratic, karl. karl, are you there? is gone.e karl

whatle wh we need to know about isis in the future? remember is ing to focusing on isis is probably the rong thing but it is what general mckenzie said. ideology. it goes on. it probably has another life of young person to go. as long as that is there we will to be alert to it. ost: mike ryan is a senior fellow in the area of middle east security. hanks for your time and expertise. . thank you. >> we will have a short break hen we will get an update on the devastating wildfires in alifornia with former firefighter bob roper who is an advisor to the western fire so s chiefs chiefs association. >> 40 years ago iranian students

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acres by noon. nd you see the firefighters at work there with the trees and a small ning, just snapshot of what is going on. a the phone is robert roper former fire chief in ventura california. advisor advisoror the weste o- for the western fire chiefs association. map that is p a racking 13 of the major fires in california. what viewers can see is the what is going on. there are fires in the northern art of the state, central and southern in the l.a. area. can you give us a sense of the the state is facing right now? guest: the real crisis hitting of california right now is normally we don't have

burning of the state at the same time. normally toward the spring, summer the north is having -- s due it dry lightning due to dry lightning straebgs strikes and then in the fall santa ana ets the fires. in 2007 or 2008 we had a fire will a saopblg in both north and e in the south and now it is turning into stresses issue and it the demand on the resources needed to fight the battle the way to do is the that, chief roper? e know the governor made significant declarations, but when you have major fires on how do s of the state the resources come together tackle this? out wellll, what works delineation 's tpno

-- whether it is local, state or federal resources. everybody goes after the fire itself. is use the closest esource concept and we start tack bei attacking the fire. efore the fire, when anticipated weather happens, the state and other agencies will -- --plowing -- pre - predepl predeploying assets and we shift resources up and down the state. resources aretate deliverwn to they can't we reach out to neighboring tats through different compact the and agreements and our federal partners to start we ing in all the resources can as needed. host: what are the biggest

in certain llenges parts of the state right now? reader to keep track of it. where are the main focus points? -- the main focusn oints are the high life loss potential. that is the number one thing of ife safety first then property conservation. s you will see in northern california as the fire started threatening the large population reas toward santa rosa and winds windsor, that is where the key areurces went, versus there other fires in more forested areas across the state and those didn't receive the same priority of resources. wherever life

safety is key determines where priorities are. host: we are talking by phone former fire oper chief of the ventura county fire of rtment and staff advisor the western fire chiefs association. roper, we read that a study 2017, 84% were by uman and 16 by lightning and are caused by humans. speak about the aluminum factor, seeing and what advice you are having for people these days? back early in s the 1900's with the smoky bear only you can prevent fires.

carelessness types of issues. then we've the arson related issues. then you have accidents. then the big thing that the is dealing lation now with is utility caused fire starts. that has spun off into a wide topics. different host: tell us more about that utility.ce, the guest: ok. ver the last three years in california some of the largest fires are either under have been on or eemed related to downed power lines or fire starts associated with electrical lines. that is something that has been the large issue in lifornia about the insrrs verse -- inverse condemnation

utility companies and spun off into the utility companies now have seen the liability impacts to them and they have done two things. one is they have invested a money rable amount of into rebuilding their nfrastructure using encapsulated lines and so not to make it more fire safe. also have ve implemented the public safety power shutoff program where we turn off the electrical grid in an area that is subject technical review of where predicted fires may occur and had its good points and bad responsibilities associated with it. strategyyou think that is a good one? ith are those good and bad points of a strategy like that? has had several

cases where they shut off the power, the wind came through and knocked down power poles and power lines to where a fire start and the utility companies can document that and show re models they can how they fires may have been if they did start. but, like in physics, for every ction there's an equal and opposite reaction, as they do the support safety shut afters recently the ost anchers in the area in ventura they were complaining that they to their electrical supply their water tanks so they firefighting.ny and we have the issues of vulnerable populations and how alert people and keep them informed if they don't have power through social media and forth. most people are not prepared to

gas station is closed, how do they get gasoline. because the cash credit card machines did work. big thing e is the about the economic losses associated with that. brought he public have in generators for businesses but they have also been hit with their generators are not al e.p.a. approved to be used in the state. o, the utility companies are kind of in a no-win situation, no-win ieve is in a tpho situation. -- it will ill take take time for the improvements hey are doing to take hold so the power safety shutoffs will happen less often. headlines thishe morning, robert roper, "wall street journal," fires are market for e insurance in california.

dollars there headline that touched onhether you fire dangers worsening over the years. wilds citing building near lands, dense forest and dried by warming and with raging fires high winds and california is living a disaster movie. new normal? is it going to be the new normal, mr. roper? guest: i wouldn't say it is going to be the new normal. what people are seeing now is that california and always he west we have had wild land fires but they have been localized. but over the past three years as dark ve gotten largeer larger and stressed resources hey are not going out as quickly as sometimes they used to. so what you end up having is a impact on would

population. it is not just where the fire is. we are talking about the regi region. the in the area where campfire was by paradise or -- chico it greatly the san francisco bay area. before that didn't happen. time period they had some of the worse air quality in the state. impacting a start larger population area, they this understanding that wild land fire problem is not it is calized thing, now a regional thing and has its ffect on air quality, insurance, so not. host: you were on this program earlier during devastating wildfires in california, with respect, u.s., calling for were ajor policy action by elected lourd leaders. what have you seen in that year

to what is your emergency the folks -- your pledge to the your message is to the folks in sacramento and elsewhere? good news is over the last couple years with major fires that we have had happen governor has taken and set orth a variety of programs for state and local government the responsemprove capability dealing with with wailildfires and tdo prescribed fires, vegetation management. array of been a wide investment that the governor speed get credit for to up some of the new policy items. get done s don't overnight and the results had them are not seen overnight. california has taken a drastic step forward to

wild land fire problem over the last couple of years. up, robert wrap oper, what is the most concerning in the next coming days, what will make the biggest difference in what is now a statewide problem? well, mother nature is going to help us right now because the weather system has on.d that is only a temporary -- reprieve cause because as the jetstream moves u.s. we will have -- western u.s. we will have a utah and ure over the four corners area. e will have more santa ana winds hitting the state. so, the best thing that we can public to join responders,emergency learn how to live with fire and

-- 10 e 10 nets of the tenets of the ready, set, go so they are part of solution. host: thank you for your time. robert roper with respect fire chiefs association staff advisor. of luck with things out there. guest: ok. shortwe will take another time-out and we have about 30 minutes left in there saturday in this on post" -- saturday "washington post." politics back to the and your favorite 2020 candidate president and why. 202-748-8001, 202-748-8000, 202-748-8002. recentas coverage of the boston book festival beginning

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you." he did this rally last night and he has some more coming, but here is a bit of flavor from the president with the crowd last night in mississippi talking about impeachment and 2020. [video clip] democratsp: yesterday voted to potentially nullify the americans, million disgracing themselves and bringing shame upon the house of representatives. [crowd booing] they have been plotting to overthrow the election since the moment that i won, but the people here that are highly sophisticated know long before i won. [cheering] 19 minutes after i took the oath horrible, the newspaper, fake "washington

tot" declared the campaign impeach president trump has just begun. at least they gave us 19 minutes. [laughter] yesterday's vote by the radical democrats is an attack on democracy itself. but i will tell you, the republicans are really strong. the strongest i have ever seen them, the most unified i have ever seen them. the most unified i have ever seen them. up american people are fed with lies, hoaxes, and extremism. their outrageous conduct has created an angry majority that will vote many do-nothing democrats out of office in 2020. [end video clip] host: president trump in mississippi, you can watch that speech on c-span.org, just type in president trump and it will

be there. from politico.com, president was speaking "to shore up support for the lieutenant governor running for mississippi governor , i cannot believe this is a competitive race trump told the audience with impeachment proceedings, trump is sweeping through southern governors races in a bid to boost his own election campaign." he will be in lexington, kentucky on monday evening at 7:00 and we will have that live on this network on c-span where he supports the republican candidate for governor there. we are told that he is going to louisiana later that week -- next week. lots of coverage coming up. jack from ohio, on the democrat line. who is your favorite candidate and why? caller: joe biden. host: why? caller: for one, he paid his dues, he has his experience.

people are judging him for his age and that is totally ridiculous. it was one time where we respected older folks because of the experience that they have. host: he has been dropping in the polls, what do you think of that? caller: i do not think much about the polls. the last few minutes we will see. i am hoping that people will wake up and say this man has paid his dues. he has experienced things that most people will never understand. butany different things, most of this with over younger people's heads. i understand when he would be the best one to pick because he has been there and done it. he did the best he could with what he had to work with. but if you put him as president

then he can do what he knows is right and he will do what is right. host: thank you for calling this morning. joe biden and his wife will be in ohio -- iowa today opening up a new campaign office in that city. live today at 11:45 a.m. eastern time on c-span. since that last color was a supporter, here is joe biden from an event last night. [video clip] hate only know folks, hides, it never leaves. who has employed it in a way that has given it oxygen. it comes out from under the rocks and pollutes everything. this is a man who started his campaign based on hate and division, dividing people in ways that we have not been divided before. this is a man who has embraced

tyrants and dictators. this is a man who has looked at people like kim jong-un as well as vladimir putin and embraced them. this is a man who poked his finger in the eyes of our allies. there are a couple things i have learned over the last couple of weeks. number one is that vladimir putin does not want me to be president. [crowd cheering] two, donald trump does not want me to be the nominee. [crowd cheering] i spent -- he spent a lot of money to make sure that i am not. i am flattered. to beatook, we have got this man. that we justugh beat him. we have to beat him soundly so

everyone knows that we are not going back to a time when another president like him can hold that office. we must beat him, and i will beat him like a drum if i am your nominee. and he knows it. he knows it. [end video clip] host: back to your calls, who is your favorite candidate and why? we have nancy from michigan, republican. good morning. caller: good morning and thank you. my candidate is trump, and i love him because he puts the country first. that is what i think all candidate should do. i just want to also thank nancy pelosi for the impeachment inquiry. i have worked -- i was at a trump,n for women for and we had three quarters of the room filled 10 days before. we could not move, that room was

so crowded with women for trump in their 30's and up. we could not even move, you could not pull your chair out. it was so crowded. so i want to thank nancy for that and also mentioned, thank you for saying watch these swing states. what you are doing with the impeachment inquiry. thank you very much. city,charlie from palm florida. good morning. caller: thank you. can morning. putsh if you all could people on who have analyzed and read the mueller report. i have read it and it is the scariest thing i have ever read. host: why? caller: manafort ran his campaign and was hired by putin to run the campaign in ukraine to overthrow the democratic government. then you had flynn who was doing trips to moscow.

you had four or five people indicted, it was a connection with russia. if russia wants donald trump in why i would vote for biden. i voted for trump the first time, and he fired james comey a loyalty oath. and then he fired the white house counsel for not firing mueller. indict is not enough to a president along with bribing this ukrainian president with funding to protect him from the russians, i do not know what is. it scares me what else they will find out. host: who do you think would have the best chance to beat president trump? caller: biden. i do not understand the democrats with this medicare for all. there are 80 million or 90 million people who love their

insurance plan. if they just did the affordable care act in the right way instead of calling it obamacare, then it would work. the other thing is the green land that they have out that so many other candidate support. how do you end oil and coal production? when i flip my lights on it pl.es from n they have power over the power grid and i do not have a choice. if you do not come up with solutions like in kentucky, 9% of the power is generated from coal. how do you end a war on coal when you go to the light switch and i cannot make a selection for solar or wind power? that is the difference. they just canceled two nuclear power contracts in florida when duke took over. i think you have to come up with reasonable plans.

you have to talk to the american people about raising the minimum wage and having health insurance. you have to talk about getting kids into college and being able to afford it. infrastructure, we have road problems everywhere. fine, military that is but $740 billion for the military when clinton was spending 240 billion on it, i do not understand why we are not talking about the issues that are affecting the american taxpayer. host: thank you for calling. you laid a lot out there. elizabeth warren speaking -- featured in "the new york journal" and talked about her medicare for all plan which would impose $9 trillion in u.s. employers over a decade. that would be in line with health premiums they would no longer need to pay. she is proposing her proposed wealth tax.

she had not previously pitched a tax, but it is expected to raise $2.7 trillion and for a 2% tax on household wealth over $50 million. the middle class would not pay tax increases according to her plan that they are attacking -- taxing the wealthy are people including the wealth tax that would recur every year. "the new york times" writes that a new whole speaking of iowa saying that warren holds the lead. more specifically, elizabeth warren is drawing support from 22% of likely caucus growers. bernie sanders at 19, pete judy at 18%. pete buttigieg speaking about vice president biden, here is president trump speaking about him and president obama. [video clip] pres. trump: with no political dynasty,e, the clinton

the bush dynasty, the president barack hussein obama dynasty. [crowd booing] and president obama work harder at defeating me than crooked hillary clinton did, right? he was all over the place. the only time i have actually seen him work hard, when he came to try impeach trump. [cheering] said he will not be president, that did not work out so well. coulden they figured they take us out a different way, a very dishonest way with the lying, spying, and leaking. we are kicking their ass. [cheering]

in the delusional democrat fantasy, i am now supposed to be --aid of someone called 1% joe. he has gotten slower, and slower. i am afraid if he gets the nomination he will be so slow we will have the lowest rate of debates in history. as opposed to the highest rated debates in history against crooked hillary. thinkt, i do not even that sleepy joe will get it, that many people are running, so it is so early that i do not want to talk about their

campaign. [end video clip] host: back to your calls. democrat, florida, named john. go ahead. caller: that was trump and we will have biden in a debate with trump, and biden can barely complete a sentence. is justhave warren who look at opensecrets.org. her backers are basically lawyers and wall street and she is part of the elite. she will do anything to be elected. she has appropriated minority status, we know that. the unique candidate that actually has real grassroots yard side is -- yard signs is told see gabbard, she is the real deal, that is why the establishment sneers her and that is why the clinton machine is back to take her out. we have a unique opportunity, a once-in-a-lifetime candidate that is really like in

eisenhower called to service, not a political opportunist. she does not want to do this, this is something that she is born into, and you have a chance to actually makes a -- make a difference, and maybe we lose to trump, but at least we go with dignity. biden, are you kidding me? what a debate that would be. that would be a disgrace. warren is the same deal, she will say and do anything, it is a circus. the only serious candidate is tulsi gabbard and that is the deal. host: matt from new york. republican. we are asking folks who their favorite favorite -- favorite 2020 candidate is. who is yours? caller: president trump. he earned it. he has worked for it. he has fulfilled his promises to a greater extent than any president i have seen in my life and i will be 50 years old this year.

the guy has boundless energy, and he is not a perfect guy. he is the right man, and the right person for the job at this time. if you look at the opponents that he is facing right now, the democrats completely failed to grasp the reasons why they lost in 2016, and they have learned nothing since then. all they have done is blame and invent a host -- they careen from one theory and crazy thing to the next on a weekly basis. proceedingsent started before the inauguration, and they have lost all of their credibility with these investigations. schiff and nadler is a joke. trump goes out there and does what he says he will do. he is not pretty, but i think in his imperfection there is a sincerity that all of the others lack.

all they have done is more radical. i used to have respect for the democrats as respected opponents. what i see as a bunts of radicals -- bunch of radicals who want to give away free stuff. they all raised hands if they asked if they would provide health assert -- health insurance for illegal aliens. what country are you running for president for? mexico? host: we have darrell, from michigan. an independent caller. caller: thank you. have a statement about which prayer -- about who to vote for. i have not made up my mind. and aave two observations possibility to mention. this observation is impeachment exercise is worthless because it is going to be voted down. depending on when it gets voted down, it will make 1% plus or

minus on the timing for trump. by the time trump gets in there, because the fed dropped interest rates, the economy will be more or less where it is at, though unemployment, higher -- high hiring, low inflation and low interest rates which benefits trump. i have an observation on who i think the perfect democratic ticket is. i think that the democratic party is working toward it. i see the ticket as elizabeth warren and bernie sanders vice president. couple of ensure a things. it will ensure that the progressives from both parties that lean toward progression will vote for that ticket. i believe that it will also help the independents who are unhappy clinton core of hillary

back in 2016. and because of that ticket, the andcrats will take michigan, ohio, pennsylvania, and yet 300 electoral votes. that is how it will end up. host: thank you for calling. we have eight or nine more minutes asking who is your favorite 2020 presidential candidate and why. more political programming coming up. we mentioned the bidens today. andrew yang will be live tomorrow at a town hall meeting in marshalltown, iowa at 2:30 p.m. tomorrow and president trump will hold the campaign rally in lexington, kentucky. i've coverage is monday at 7:00 p.m. -- live coverage is monday at 7:00 p.m. also on this network. a text message from

gabriel. "he is the only that both parties will vote for. he is not a career politician. leaning -- he is leaning towards amy klobuchar, more moderate and will appeal to independents and she is not polarizing. it also doesn't hurt to being a female from minnesota. here is the mayor of south bend deanna, pete to judge last night at this liberty and justice celebration on why he is different from the president and he should be the nominee. [video clip] >> i do not get helicopter into a golf course while pretending to care about the working class. i do not even golf. i get around in a chevy that was built in ohio by the very same workers that this president has let's down. and i do not go to work in an

office in washington, d.c.. my office is about six hours that way down i-80. and out themidwest, window of that office i see the plants, of our ethanol just why it understand the measure of this president's betrayal of american farmers and i know how to talk about it. [cheering] do not have to throw myself a military parade to see what a convoy looks like. [cheering] because i was driving one around afghanistan right about the time this president was taping season seven of "the celebrity apprentice." so that tough talk is not going to work against me.

to i did not just come here end the area of donald trump. i am here to launch the era that much -- must come next. [cheering] because, in order to win and lead, it is going to take a lot more than the political warfare we have come to accept from washington, d.c.. [cheering] we already have a divider in chief, i am offering a white house that you can look at on the news and feel your blood pressure go down a little bit instead of through the roof. [end video clip] host: that was pete buttigieg from the liberty and justice celebration yesterday. we had lots of candidates on life last night, and the president at a separate event, a rally last night in mississippi.

you can type in trump or president trump at c-span.org and go to the topic or. you can just type the word iowa into the search bar and come up with the speeches for all of the democrats. we have john from johnstown pa. a democratic party -- caller. how are you? caller: good. donald trump is the reason why we should get rid of the electoral college. he and george w. bush were disasters and are disasters. my choice would be -- i like buttigieg, but my choice would have been john kerry, was on q and a some time ago on c-span, and it sounded like he was going to run, and i guess he decided -- to, i think a man with you can speak three languages fluently and had the knowledge and the military background of john kerry would've been a great candidate.

i think thatieg, is who i would vote for. i thinkung, smart, and he can debate donald trump any day of the week. that is my comment. host: thank you for calling. we have time for a couple of more. our cities tour this weekend, we explore the american story as we feature the history of laramie, wyoming. today at noon on book tv on c-span2, all of our laramie literary offerings including inside the life and career of jcpenney. [video clip] wyoming,ost people in he was a transplant, born in way -- raised in missouri. i think jcpenney was a country boy at heart, and there was an expression you can always take the boy out of the country, but not the country out of the boy. we see that in terms of the life that he lived. even though he was in wyoming

for roughly 10 years and spent the balance of his life in new york city, he never lost the essence of who he was as this country boy who like small towns. you look at where he started in wyoming, a lot of these communities were young, even as he branched into neighboring states. most of these towns were not incorporated until the late 1800s and some of them were not incorporated until the 20th century. penney cases ,j.c. became the first real department store operating. [video clip] host: make sure to tune in as we travel to laramie, wyoming and watch a video of laramie and all the cities we have visited c-span.org though to c-span.org -- go to c-span.org/cities tour. this is an independent from washington. caller: donald trump. hasreason i like him is he

-- we have a track record now, he is delivering on jobs and businesses, and a favorable financial climate. i appreciate everything he has done. i agree he is rough and tough, but that is what needed -- what is needed considering we have an elite group who seems to think that they are entitled. i appreciate everything he is doing. host: thank you for calling. jay from connecticut, a republican. hello. are you with us? one more chance for jay, otherwise we need to move on. let us try leslie, in pennsylvania. are you there? leslie? caller: i am here. host: there you are. go ahead, please. caller: i am for pete buttigieg. he is brilliant, he is capable of operating from both right and

left sides of his brain makes them not only creative also fiscally sound. although he is 37, he is literally an old soul who was raised growing up as a young boy. he approached life asking two questions, how and why? he has developed and everything that he has done in his life progressive action within himself. he is extremely humbled, and this is a man who, if you really read his story and begin to learn about him, he is a listener and me -- and he is now ready to take action, and that is what he is campaigning on, making a turn. he is humble, he has literally been in experiences where the next day he pulls out of an afghan site and the buddy he has with had just gotten killed by they wereer

delivering supplies to boy scouts or something. and he is just extremely smart. i think he has a very good plan, he is broad-minded. as a result, i think he will take it on and win. host: thank. thank you everybody for calling in. we will be back with another edition and our guests include the rising -- i guess to talk about the rising u.s. budget and take a look at the 40th anniversary of the iran hostage crisis. we will do an hour and a half segment plus your calls. our guests will include john from 81.ack from 1979 also stuart of the carter administration who was former white house chief domestic policy advisor. to have tomorrow on the

anniversary of the iran hostage crisis. we hope we enjoy -- you enjoy the rest of your saturday. we will see you tomorrow. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ >> book tv has coverage of the recent boston book festival beginning today at 2:00 p.m. eastern with author discussions on violence. >> it is common. we know what works to reduce gun violence, that is not true in relation to urban gun violence. urban gun violence is the most studied and rigorously studied

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