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tonight, past impeachment proceedings for andrew johnson, richard nixon and bill clinton. friday, the american revolution. america history tv features all week, 8 p.m. eastern on c-span3. >> at www.c-span.org, we are making it easier for you to watch coverage of the impeachment inquiry and me administration -- and the administration's response, if you miss any coverage, go to added a tally from ve the a.p. showing where each on the mocrat shows impeachment inquery. page at ur would be c-span.org/impeachment. it is
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it is your best way to watch c-span's unfiltered coverage any time. > aware -- aware joined by casey burgett to look to next week's public hearings on impeachment inquiry. when you heard the phase would what to a public phase were your thoughts of your hearings?ons for those >> i was surprised how quickly it is coming. incredibly fast and surprising a lot of us who a day-to-day basis how quick democrats want to make their case publicly. what do you suppose, ecause of people because of people they will interview next week have testified line closed doors what do they hope to draw out in they didn't in closed door hearings? to hear mocrats want what they heard behind closed doors. they are willing to move because they are confident in the case
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and testimony they have received received. republicans are hopeful that they can use the public show unity to isremembering or confusion or show chinks in the armor between corroborating witnesses to get in that and chinks case. host: based on the resolution in the sed last week full house what is your understanding of the process of will take earings place? guest: the intelligence whichtee will take a lead is different from investigations or impeachment inquiries in the which are particularly under the house judiciary committee. pelosi tapped adam schiff to lead them. way he's conducted this and is able to bring this ntelligence perspective to the
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proceedings. it will transition into a public will be more there back and forth and look more than behind oom typical positions or committee hearing but it will be public for all eyes to see. there have been reports of the republicans wanting jim to sit rom oversight intelligence and mark meadows. defe they want public defenders of the president and they are forceful and loyal smart as a whip and not shy to get combative with an republicans may think they might need that. we appreciate and welcome your comments about the next as we continue. democra
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202-748-8000. epublicans 202-748-8001 and independents and others 202-748-8002. , an opinionow you a piece from a former new york attorney general in "new ork post" saying pelosi's many police departme impeachment rules they says boasting about the protections offered to trump for ing they are the same president nixon and president lie.on but that is a section f by stipulates that surrenders his executive privilege a power on the supreme court has ruled his office he and his lawyers will be denied any call or answer or question witnesses he should say. say.should what is section f? uest: i think this was guaranteed to be a partisan
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circus we the cameras turn on a lot of you will get partisan warfare undercutting the process and democrats saying one thing and republicans saying another. with section f it is a provision that is -- it was passed by the committee independent of the house resolution last week which set the broad of the impeachment inquiry and gives the power to t judiciary committee to have the president forfeit his if he doesn'tghts comply with the investigations of any committee referenced in impeachment resolution last week. it is a sign the democrats are play hard ball if he doesn't comply with the subpoenas and provide witnesses he hasn't done yet, they are going to take some throose ghts one proceedings to force compliance. just thes was language
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judiciary discussed and approved of. yes.t: host: section f should the president unlawfully refuse to available for testimony or produce documents equested by the investigative committee listed in the tpeufir section the one that passed and of the investigation described in this first section the chair shall have the the etion to discretion to impose appropriate remedies including denying specific requests by the president or his counsel or call or question witnesses. it seems look they are just setting it up because the resident and administration have withheld witnesses and testimony at least so far. guest: exactly. it is a preemptive measure to administration as we transition into a more as we request documents if you continue to setting l you are
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yourself up for denial of rights you are going to want to win these proceedings. host: lets get to calls. topic is impolice. . republican is -- impeachment and from missouri. caller: i'm calling from the first congressional district democraticallyry gerrymandered and i would like and a into washington member of the public what are the procedures and what access actually attend the hearing as a member of the public? understand itas i just like most or competent hearings these will be believe in person and th on television. so, i would recommend you show .p early hey will be well attended by the public and this not common so people will in line. in i would get a together now. host: the earlier guest reported they are moving -- they will
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have these in the ways and eans, bigger room to accommodate a larger audience. florida on the democrat line. that,: you are correct on michael brady and i'm from florida and i'm a democrat. need to study and evaluate the situation of the checkhment proceedings to either the right or the left and happy or medium ground in the middle. why, if these proceedings 10 o on, will trump have the advantage of refusal or and the ng the process reference, congressional jordan and ves ollins from georgia, and i think several others -- i
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atched very seriously and the various committee meetings they representative elijah cummings was moderator head of the committee -- the point i'm making those congressmen have tkodone - have done nothing but break up meetings in reference to supporting president trump. that democrats were able in a lot of these meetings proceed with the eeting and make a proper evaluation of it. what we are having to deal with s jordan was in one of the closed meetings and he came out and he was leaking information going on in the tu particular meeting. we don't need the trash talking that has been ongoing. had the rats have opportunity to do a lot of
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thin passed a lot legislation in the house that has been forwarded to the senate. i think there's probably some 400 pieces of legislation there haven't been acted upon and hear comments from callers coming in about the do nothing democrats from the republicans democrats aren't doing anything. host: i will let you go there. a lot there.s transitiontant as we to the support public side we should be conscious of what we say and that is kicasors making their fully and they are saying the resident did wrong and anyone defending him is breaking their. have a calm e will bayia moment is -- kumbaya oment and it will be a condition 10 shus process --
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contentious process. to pass so we y would go in with eyes wide open can.do the best we host: a lot has been said about the president appear supporter lack of due process in the inquiry so far. public hink these hearings will help clarify what process?ue guest: this is one of the iggest pieces of confusion and relating what we know about the courtroom. it is a familiar process and tv and we e see on know in general what rights we supposed to have. but we have not reached the court stage. the fact ion is in gathering stage and behind but in previous proceedings it was special counsel. warn not privy -- we were not rivy to that but the president will receive his receipts
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because we are transitioning two the relative court stage where can call witnesses and be epresented by counsel an cross examine witnesses. no matter what you have been rights about due process we haven't been there yet and next week's is the first start the at where you see defendant be able to be reserved nd cross examine and present evidence. host: it is level to go back to the constitution. o little is said about impeachment article 1, section 2, clause 5 the house of shall does their speaker and other officer and of the sole power impeachment. florida joanne on the republican line. i'm calling from punt gordon and my -- punta gorda and my feelings are there is no while blower. up.ink it is made the first is when adam schiff
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was laying about what trump said call.e i heard with my own ears. about the phone call with ukrainian prime minister was totally false. t was totally false and different than the actual call. people need to read the transcript of the call. everything has been set up like collusion and mueller report and all i hear is interpretation. everybody's intern station. interpretation. and i want to welcome president rump to florida and have a wonderful morning. host: tell us about what the democrats are focusing on, what establish as an article or articles of impeachme impeachment. constitution says precious little about what impeachment is and how it is to be carried out.
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some threshold of what high crimes and treatment and bribery. we think of this as a criminal be done hing has to that broke a statute or law. it doesn't necessarily have to be true. is what the political actors in the house of epresentatives say is impeachable so democrats are say it will likely l evolve around abuse of power, decommitment from the oath of america's utting interest first by putting his concerns first and obstruction of the proceedings not complying with witnesses. what articles see
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s say. but they are trying to make it publicly. host: for some historical erspective our impeachment website not only current video impeachment ent inquiry but we've linked to all f our coverage from the bill kit impeachment inquiry and impeachment of a number of 40 years that c-span history you will find hat all at c-span.org/impeachment. we go to scranton, pennsylvania, on the independent line. caller: good morning. skheuchiff interviewed people. they disagreed with the president's policy. there they disagreed with the president's policy.
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there are three branches of government and the president is has foreign mine policy and what is happening with the i.g. report. us the uld tell beginning of what happened .efore 2016 host: just to let you know we story yesterday that i.g. report will likely come out in the next week or so. you can find that from the hill their headlines senators push impeachment trial rules to avoid a political brawl. being connell was asked -- mcconnell asked how long it president and whether trump would be convicted and removed from office. here is what he said. how long it goes on really depends on how long the senate to spend on t. i'm pretty sure how it is likely to end. if it were today i don't think there'sity question that it removal. lead to a so, the question is how long want to take.e
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how long do the presidential be on the want to floor of the senate instead of and all new hampshire of these other related issues. to s very difficult ascertain how long this takes. surprised if it didn't end the way the two the ous ones did with president not being removed from office. ost: how difficult is it for republican already particularly in the senate not to give away say things that make prejudi eventual trial? trial?training guest: training applies it democratic senators who will be potential jurors. i'm sympathetic to the argument should wait of us for evidence to be public even embers of the senate are not privy it the information behind closed doors so we are all using a lot of speculation and leaks
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and the public testimonies that dripping out. we do not have the full picture nd i don't even think the committees investigating it have the full picture by witnesses of other people to come in and asking for documents. consequence of moving so fast. the watergate break-ins were 1972.in july of no1974 ot until july of the stage aware entering knew happened. with clinton it was january of 1994 the special prosecutor december of 1998 he was impeached so those are two and we are years three months away so a very compressed time line. host: we have ann from , on the le, minnesota democrat line. it really legal for
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withhold all of his documents and other things should be available in any investigation? that is a question that we are about to see a ton of and supreme court likely it be involved to itemize prerogatives of congress are relative to the executive branch particularly we to invoke bility executive privilege. right now there's a fails court -- there's famous court we somebody was subpoenaed by but directed by the president not to testify so he to congress or the president and surprisingly hat hasn't been decided so clearly so we are waiting for a back and forth of negotiations between the two this in gnals a lot of
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previous efforts was done sometimes by the courts and we stages by he final the court but a lot by norms of between the two branches but nothing is set in stone so a lot of us are looking clarity. host: you point out the pace could outpace results from the court. the impraoefplt inquiry -- impeachment inquiry could wrap,before a considerate could hear. guest: right. courts are moving fast elative it other court cases and democrats have decided at the may not necessarily need a t to be decided to make strong case so they are moving on. to have hey would like the hearings as soon as possible but they are moving on under they what. texas, owland next from independent line. caller: good morning. i'm calling just to say let the flow.
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let the facts show the american what is there that the the witnesses has given. i'm independent and i love in austin-san antonio corridor and i have friends from all and different lines of -- political lines -- they are not ready for the like manythey are not will rd trumpers that i not listen to the facts, this is a sham. you have to listen. his is trying to preserve our constitutional republic from unlawful acts, corrupt conduct, of power. -- abuse of power. have to realize and we have to be open listen to those facts. and republicans saying they anything, that
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is already a sign of the jeopardy.s in ing torser -- force are be paid by the trump campaign and on what g to bayou off you -- by wihat you might have o in the senate. the president can be impeachment ven if they are not consistent with the presidential duties. oath of violating the office with the emonthly and anybody who says the constitution is phony we have a problem. americans, and do what is right. save our country if not for for our children and grandchildren. guest: you are informed. you pay attention. heartedly with the sentiment that the facts supreme and they
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will be readily available to all americans that want to do it. i won't be naive enough to say willone from both extremes accept them but at least they will be presented and they are make their case an members of conditioning face deciding unate cut of whether it warrants impeachment facts imate removal but are about ready to be available. pittsburgh n in texted this why doesn't trump himself in open hearing? guest: i think his lawyers wouldn't love that. everything i understand says that he has that prerogative if if the ers allow it and house wants to hear from him. this is the right of someone this.g a charge like i cannot imagine the president taking the stand in the house or senate. host: would that come at a house eventual senate
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trial? guest: i think it can come at any point in the house and senate. they make own rules with regard to impeachment. head around him showing up and taking the oath personally to these questions. host: let's hear from joel in maryland, on n, the republican line. caller: good morning, how are you doing? thanks.ine, >> thank you for this forum. remind everybody that it is america and we voted but are rocess of elections definitely sometimes don't seem is.r but it is what it republicans have to remember is being right about what politically correct sometimes is not morally right. at the behavior of , weigh the s party evidence and look from a perspective of how do i want my grandchildren and their morals to be judged
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and think about that at night home.you go you can rave about all of what you like and don't like, but to truth we are going to have it get an answer and it is more than what we think citizens.re thank you and i hope the truth comes out. why are ther question hearings held in intelligence committee instead of skwru dish committee going to be circus for such a serious matter? don't know yet because they have not yet said why. one, the intelligence committee is more used to operating -- oween closed doctors behind closed doors so it is an transition to conduct the depositions. been very has complimentary of chairman schiff committee for how he
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duct hills with the -- conduct how he's been able it focus the intelligence committee on this. foreign es have intelligence information that involved security khrerpclearas been an easier transition that adam schiff is a prosecutor and huge supporter of speaker pelosi. the report out of intelligence committee doesn't judiciary use committee from holding their own that.gs after guest: right and the resolution other keys has involved so they all have elineations of what they are investigating so far as the intelligence committee granted these public.ake host: john is in new york, line.at
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i'm calling because i'm a little upset the way the handling this impeachment. number one, the president is not a standing in e our government, only the president should be there. not his family. $90 is son-in-law, who got -- for from iraq -- iran his family's hotel. this guy is just -- he is before the law the way the is handling this. host: let me ask you because caller brought up luements emonthly sraeulgs -- hearing. uest: this will be an interesting part how much do they include in articles of sure there and i'm
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are conversations some argue say as hould make it as wide possible and others that will found traction with ukraine matter, let's keep it we haveated to that and good witnesses and testimony. i don't know but it is up to them to decide. thomas is in cuyahoga falls, ohio. welcome. caller: hi, there. y question is a technical question and casey appreciate opinioness in your answers. 'm struggling it understand anonymity versus protection of a whistleblower. i believe that anonymity in this seems to be logical that somebody should be able to question the original source of these charges, but i do believe totally in protection of whistleblowers.
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can you clarify those distinctions? answer is going to be important one and it will be a question both sides will have to answer. i am not an expert on this and there are experts that we should all find. from my understanding the purpose of whistleblowers and the purpose of anonymity is to get protection and stay give someone the legal bearing to come forward with information that does not threaten their current position her job. keep thisrtant to process in place so that future whistleblowers or potential whistleblowers feel the same protection and will not be outed or face recourse for their action. i don't know what the line between anonymity and protection is. i think we will talk endlessly about it in coming months. i don't have it yet but you better believe i will chase it down. chase,ou can follow that he is on twitter. thank you for being with us. the c-span networks
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live next week as the house intelligence committee holds the first public impeachment hearings. the committee led by chairman adam schiff will hear from three state department official starting wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three. top u.s. diplomat to ukraine william taylor and deputy secretary of state george can't will testify. on c-span2 former u.s. ambassador to ukraine will appear before the committee. follow the impeachment inquiry live on the c-span networks, online on c-span.org, or listen live with the re-c-span radio app. at c-span.org we are making it easier view to watch c-span's coverage of the impeachment inquiry and the frustration's missed our if you live coverage go to our
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impeachment inquiry page at c-span.org/impeachment. we have added a tally from the whereated press showing each house democrats stands on the impeachment angry against president trump. follow the impeachment inquiry on our webpage at c-span.org/impeachment. your fast and easy way to watch unfiltered coverage anytime. vice president mike pence speak at an event today hosted by the new hampshire institute of politics and the new england council known as politics and eggs. we will have live coverage at the top of the hour here on c-span. the viceime ago president file paperwork in new hampshire on behalf of the trump presidential campaign for the 2020 new hampshire primary. [indiscernible]

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