trump will be speaking at a voter outreach event in atlanta. live on c-span, starting at 3:00 eastern. >> what c-span's live next week as the house intelligent -- intelligence committee holds impeachment hearings. the committee will hear from state department officials starting wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern. and deputylor assistant secretary of state george can't will testify. 11:00 a.m. eastern on c-span2, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch will appear before the committee. follow the impeachment inquiry live on the c-span networks, at www.c-span.org or listen live with our free radio app. >> we are joined by casey burgat , a senior fellow at the

institute in washington. the to look forward to house intelligence committee and impeachment hearings. when you heard the news that the phase would switch to a public face, what were your thoughts about your expectations for those hearings? guest: i was surprised how quickly, the timeline is so compressed. it is going fast. it is surprising a lot of us who follow this on a daily basis, how fast this is proceeding and how quick democrats want to make their case public. host: because of the people i will interview have testified behind closed doors, what do you hope the committee hopes to draw out in public that they didn't in closed-door hearings? guest: democrats want to hear what they heard behind closed doors. they are so willing to move on this quickly because they are confident in the case they have, confident in the testimony they have received in those

depositions behind closed doors. republicans are hopeful they can to this public opportunity show misremembering's or confusion or chinks in the armor ,etween a corroborating witness what they remember and when to try to get some confusion and jinx in the case that democrats are trying to lay out. host: based on the resolution that passed last week in the house, what is your understanding of the process of how the hearings will take price -- took place? the intelligence committee will take a lead which is different than impeachment inquiries which are typically under the jurisdiction of the house judiciary committee. speaker pelosi cap adam schiff -- tapped adam schiff to leave this. -- two to lead this. transition into a public setting where there will be more of a back and forth and

cameras will be on it. it will look more like a courtroom than the behind-the-scenes depositions, or a typical committee hearing would look like but it will be public and for all eyes to see. oft: there have been reports republicans wanting jim jordan from oversight to sit in temporarily on intelligence, and mark meadows. what is behind their thinking? guest: they want public defenders of the president and meadows and jordan are that, they are forceful and loyal backers and they are smart as a shy to gett combative with witnesses. republicans may think they may need that when cameras turn on. host: casey burgat is our guest. we welcome our comments -- your comments. democrats, use the democrat line.

we wanted to show you the opinion piece from betsy, the former u.s. -- new york state attorney general. the headline says, pelosi's impeachment rules guarantee a partisan circus. i want to point out, she says democrats are boasting about the impeachment inquiry protections offered to trump, claiming they are the same rules devised for president nixon and clinton but that is a lie. section f, devised by jerrold nadler, stipulates that unless the president surrenders his executive privilege, a power the supreme court has ruled michael to his office, he and his lawyers will be denied the ability to call or, question witnesses, i should say. what is section f? i think this was guaranteed to be a partisan circus no matter what happens. when the cameras turn on with something as big as impeachment,

you will get a lot of partisan warfare undercutting the process and democrats saying one thing, republicans another. section f is a provision important to talk about. it wasn't even passed, it was passed by the judiciary committee independent of the house resolution last week that set the procedures of the impeachment inquiry. it gives the power to the judiciary committee to basically his the president forfeit impeachment right and if he doesn't comply with the in thegations impeachment resolution, it is basically a sign that the democrats are ready to play hardball and if the democrats don't provide -- if the president doesn't provide witnesses and documents, they will take away his rights as a way to force compliance. host: this was language that just the judiciary discussed and approved, not voted on by the full house. here is what the language says.

f, should the president unlawfully refused to make witnesses available for testimony or to produce documents requested by the , in furtherance of the investigations described in the first section, the chair shall have the discretion to a -- impose remedies including denying requests by the president or his counsel under these procedures or to call or question witnesses. it seems like they are setting it up because the president and administration have withheld witnesses and testimony, at least so far. guest: exactly. it is a preemptive measure to warn the administration that as we transition to a more public phase, as we are requesting information and documents, if you continue to stonewall, you are setting yourself up for denial of rights that you are going to want to be in -- you

are going to want. go to the collars. a republican line is first. he'll is in hazelwood. -- bill is in hazelwood. theer: i am calling from democratically gerrymandered first congressional district. public, i'mof the wondering, what are the procedures and would access -- what access what i have to attending the hearing is a member of the public? guest: just like most other committee hearings, these will be public hearings in person and on television. recommend you show up early. these will be well attended by the public and everyone within the bubble. this is not a common thing. if you are flying in, get your ticket now. host: our earlier guest from the hill reported, they will have these in the ways and means, a bigger room to accommodate a

larger audience. we hope you get in. michael in florida, democrat line. go ahead. michael, from florida. i am a democrat. need to american people evaluate the situation of the impeachment proceedings to check the right or left and find medium ground in the middle. my main concern is, why, if on,e proceedings continue will trump have the advantage of refusal or actually obstructing the process and the representatives, congressional representatives, jordan and , andns from georgia several others, i watched very seriously and the various

committee meetings they had, when representative elijah cummings was moderator and head of the meeting. the point i am making, those particular congressman have done nothing but break up the meetings as much as they can in reference to supporting president trump. i think the democrats were able to, in a lot of these meetings, proceed with the meeting and make a conclusion and a proper evaluation of what we are dealing with. was in a lot of the closed meetings. he came out and was talking about the particular meeting. need this trash talking back and forth which is ongoing. the democrats have had the opportunity to do a lot of things. they passed a lot of legislation

in the house that has been folded to the senate. are some 400 pieces of legislation that hasn't been acted upon. , therd these comments from do-nothing democrats from the republicans, the democrats are doing anything. there is a lot there. i think it is important to recognize as we transition to this public side, we should be conscious of what we are about to see and that will be democrats making their case forcefully. they will say the president did wrong and anyone defending him is breaking their oath to the constitution. on the republican side they will attack, just the opposite. to think we are going to come into a kumbaya moment is naive. we should look to this as a contentious process. this is not supposed to be an easy thing to pass and it won't

be, so we should go into that with eyes wide open and try to make the best judgment possible. host: a lot has been said by the president and supporters about the lack of due process so far. do you think these public hearings will help clarify what is due process in an impeachment he -- hearing? guest: this is one of the biggest pieces of confusion. that is relating what we know about the courtroom, it is a familiar process. we know a jury and trial and what rights we are supposed to have as a defendant but we haven't reached the court stage. the investigation so far is in the fact gathering stage, behind closed doors which is different than the past. wasrevious proceedings it done by special counsel behind closed doors. the president will begin to receive his rights because we are transitioning into the relative court phase where he will call root -- call witnesses

, cross-examine witnesses once they do take the stage. it is important to know that we haven't reached the court stage. at next week's hearing, it is the start of that where you will to bee defendant be able represented and resent evidence. -- present evidence. host: so little is said about impeachment in the constitution. the house of representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers and shall have the sole power of impeachment. we go to punta gorda florida. joanne on the republican line. caller: hello. this is joanne calling from punta gorda. my feelings are that there isn't any such thing as a whistleblower. i think the whole thing is made up. the first thing that convinced me was when adam schiff was lying about what trump had set him a call. i heard it with my own ears.

he talked about the phone call that he had with the ukraine president, prime minister, and it was totally false. andas totally false different than the actual call. people need to read the transcript of the call. i believe everything has been set up just like the russian collusion and the mueller report and i have heard no facts yet. all i keep hearing is interpretation. everybody's interpretation. i think i believe. i want to welcome president trump to florida. have a wonderful morning. thank you. us whatsey burgat, tell the democrats are focusing on, what they hope to establish. sost: the constitution says precious little about impeachment and how it is supposed to be carried out. ofdoes give some threshold

what high crimes and misdemeanors, treason and bribery qualified to meet the threshold, but that is broad. there have been 60 impeachments -- impeachment efforts in the house. 16 have been voted for impeachment and 11 have no criminal acts within the articles of impeachment which means a were -- they were impeached without creating a criminal act. we think something has to be done the broke a law but it doesn't have to be true. impeachment is what the house of actors in the limited -- the house of representatives say is impeachable. democrats are trying to say it will revolve around abuse of power, 80 commitment of the oath of office by -- 80 commitment of the oath of office and probably obstruction of congress, obstruction of the proceedings. i'm interested to see what the articles say. they are trying to make this case fast and publicly.

host: for historical perspective, c-span.org/impeachment has current video from the current impeachment inquiry and we linked to coverage from the bill clinton impeachment inquiry, the impeachment of a number of judges over the course of the 40 years plus of the c-span history. you will find that all on c-span.org/impeachment. scranton, pennsylvania, rosemary on the independent line. caller: good morning. when adam schiff interviewed the people, i think it was their opinion. they disagree with the president's policy. there are three branches of government and the president is entitled to determine his foreign-policy. what is happening with the ig report? we haven't heard anything about that. that should tell us the

beginning of what happened before 2016. thank you. host: we read a story yesterday that that ig report will likely come out in the next week or so. you can find that. from the hill, the headline, senators push for deal on impeachment trial rules to avoid a political brawl. mitch mcconnell was asked long a senate trial would take and whether president trump would be convicted and removed from office. here is what mitch mcconnell had to say. reppo mcconnell -- >> i will say i am pretty sure how it is likely to end if it were today. i don't think there is any question it would not lead to a removal. i don't think -- the question is, how long does the senate want to take? how long do the presidential candidates want to be on the

floor of the senate instead of iowa and new hampshire? and all these related issues that may be going on at the same time. it is difficult to ascertain how long this takes. i would be surprised if it didn't end the way the two previous ones did with the president not being removed for office -- from office. , how casey burgat difficult is it for republican leader -- leadership not to say things that make bread -- prejudice in a trial of president trump? guest: democratic senators will also be potential jurors. i'm sympathetic to the argument that we should all wait for the evidence to become public. even members of the senate aren't privy to the information. many colors say, using speculation, using leaks and public testimony starting to

drip out. we don't have the full picture and i don't think the committees investigating this have the pull -- the full picture. the consequence of moving so fast. if you look back at nixon, the watergate break-ins were done in july of 1972. it wasn't until july of 1974, 2 years later, that the public hearings started to happen. clinton, it was january of 1994 that the special prosecutor started his operations, and it wasn't until december 1998 when clinton was impeached. these are two years, four years, right now we are three months away so this is a compressed timeline. >> at c-span.org, we are making it easier for you to watch our coverage of the impeachment inquiry and the administration's response. if you miss our live coverage, go to our impeachment inquiry page at c-span.org/impeachment.

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