and senate minority leader chuck schumer will rolled hold a meeting on the program known as daca which was argued today at the supreme court. we'll have that live at 2:po eastern. this week the house intelligence committee holds the first public impeachment hearings. the committee led by chairman adam schiff will hear from state department officials. starting wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three top diplomat in ukraine william taylor and deputy assistant discriminate george kent will testify. friday at 9:00 on c-span2, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, maria yvonneo vitch will appear. and ahead of the hearing seeking witness testimony from the depositions. you find those transcripts at c-span.org slash impeachment. >> washington journal continues. ist: adam guillette president of accuracy in media.

byst: it was founded in 1969 rita irvine. we used a great combination of citizen activism to create a healthy skepticism toward the media. host: which type of media? guest: all media. these days we are expanding in other areas as well. host: who funds your organization? people who fund a lot of politically oriented charities. a great combination of individual donors of all dollar level. do you findny times inaccuracies in conservative media? guest: we don't as much go after conservative media because there's a lot of people already doing that as they should. inaccuracies anywhere should be exposed. we go after the ankle that isn't caught by other folks. your process for investigating inaccuracies? guest: we look at the areas in which we think there is greatest

opportunity to educate people. if it is someone speaking in an echo chamber that is less exciting than going after inaccurate media to an audience that could be persuaded. rather than going after cnn or msnbc which people would probably expect to be centerleft , rather than going after fox largely byis watched conservatives, i think it's important to go after now this and buzz feet. people subscribe on facebook because of upbeat videos. then they started putting out incredibly slanted content to an audience that wasn't even suspecting it and many of their viewers are younger. they signed up for puppy videos. didn't even have strong political leanings. now they get fat content that's host: whataccurate have you allegedly exposed in

recent weeks? guest: our organization is launching tomorrow night with our 50th anniversary gala. we are going to bring back the history of investigative journalism that our organization has. we will go after online media targets as well as some of the traditional mainstream media target. host: do you believe reasonably there is fake news? guest: of course there is fake news. that's the greatest threat to real journalism. people try to make the case that donald trump or anybody else attacking journalism as a threat to our democracy. fake news is the greatest threat to our democracy because it's a threat to real journalism. when it's not called out people don't know to trust. i think it's immature to call everything fake news when you don't like what they're saying.

host: david lenhart wrote this about media bias. yes it's real. most mainstream journalists do lean left. the local reporters and washington reporters are usually professional have to keep these views from affecting their coverage. instead they are more likely to suffer from both side is him. even when both sides story isn't the most accurate one. the coverage of hillary clinton's emails certainly did suffer from this bias. guest: it certainly did. the if that is something that had happened with the republican we never would have heard the end of it. cnn made a big deal of donald trump pouring too much fish food in a koi pond. again and again the media treats stories dramatically different from one side than they do the other. i appreciate when they acknowledge there is some bias. defines hard for them to what centerleft bias when so many of them live in a neck of chamber.

it's hard for them to identify it. host: we want to hear your thoughts on this as well. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. conservative male bias is real, too. fox news and talk radio are huge influential parts of the media. readers with misleading or outright false information like her for some conspiracy theories. much of the media tries hard to and stories accurately correct itself when it airs. host: i think we are an environment where since the media augments -- audience is

already so fragmented. since print and cliques are down these folks are forced on all ends to go after the audience they are seeking to appease and create content that's going to be interesting to that audience whether or not they know it's journalistically true. i think it's a bigger issue to the left on the right because most of the media is dominated i the left rather than the right. they've been chasing endlessly for years the trump bump where there's a fervent audience of folks who want to read anti-trump stories about trump is going to be impeached and this is going to happen. they write these stories even though they know they are not accurate because that's what's going to sell. host: how do you fix that? guest: you expose it relentlessly again and again and again. not in facts and studies which are powerful but also with investigative journalism to show these people privately with private conversations of why they are creating stories that they are creating. once they have used investigative journalism to get

people's attention that's when studies showing the facts and statistics related to media bias can be brought in. host: you served as head of development for project veritas. will you have concealed cameras for accuracy in media? guest: we are going to be using investigative journalism to expose media bias in bringing the truth to the american people. host: terry in woodbridge. republican. host: terry in woodbridge. republican. guest: good morning. my concern is the way our country is going and i do believe in the free press. officesident has been an this is when i have really been paying attention because this is when i retired. wouldn't it be more accurate because you set a lot of people go on the internet and get their news and everything.

but you would have to agree with me that more senior citizen vote in any other population. on social us are security checks and stuff and we can't afford the internet and some of us like me don't even believe in it. i won't even touch it because it's too harmful to our country i believe. if we't it be effective showed the public exactly how they are and create a law about false media? i know we have to have free press but if they can prove that what they are saying is false and they won't retract the right to shouldn't there be a lot protect the citizens from getting misinformation when they are standing on the floor of capitol hill. guest: i don't want to see a law specifically saying your news is false and now we are going to

have legal ramifications from it. that's a terrible slippery slope. we already have laws in place for libel and slander and defamation of character. to be not only going exposing content from online news sources. i'm simply making the case that that's a particularly dangerous area where no one is currently active. lou, independent. i've been trying to call c-span so much that i don't even know where to start you i'm 87 years old and my first vote was for dwight eisenhower and i have almost a photographic memory so i know what's been going on for the last 60 years. and my question -- will first of all i want to ask greta and

c-span what happened when brian lamb used to have christopher -- somebody sitting on each side. i guess it's because the newspapers are gone now. host: when we would have people of different opinions sitting across from each other? we try to do that. people are not always game for that anymore. we like that format as well. caller: it's just a different world. being 87 world constantly changes and changes. i don't know what to say. i'm a donald trump supported. poor man canis stand it. he's trying so hard to be presidential and run the country. guest: you brought up a great point when you brought up dwight eisenhower. in his farewell address, everyone remembers his warning

about the military-industrial complex. a lot of people overlook the warning he gave about the rise of a dangerous powerful technological elite who could hijack our republic and control our elections without us even realizing it. that's what we are facing with google and facebook and the tremendous influence they have over our lives. facebook knows your political leanings so they can tell people to go vote only if they have the political leanings they want to advance. eisenhower was ahead of his time to recognize it and warned us about it. host: do you think it's ok for the president of the united states to tweet false news? guest: i don't think it's ok for anybody to tweet false news. host: david, republican. caller: i was a truck driver for 30 years and there's a lot of bias against truck drivers same with the airliners.

back in 1988 they had a really bad accident where a drunk truck driver went across the median and hit a bus head-on and they kept saying that. i got home that night and saw the newspaper says drunk truck driver hits bus head-on. looked at the picture and it was a guy in a pickup truck. but a lot of people got mad at truck drivers over that. people driving 18 wheelers. guest: the media has an incredibly powerful influence and it's for that reason they have a response delete to get stories right. we would never expect news getly -- a news outlet to 100% of stories right. what we are seeing as there are news outlets who are knowingly publishing false information merely because it will sell to their audience. that's wrong.

lisa on twitter once to ask about the abc epstein coverage story. guest: we never know what's going on behind closed doors in a newsroom. weconfirms the suspicions have that powerful people have a greater influence over the media behind closed doors than the rest of us do. how can journalism be speaking truth to power when they are being influenced by those powerful people. that's terrifying and that's a problem. host: david in grand rapids. independent. we have a news organization like fox news that refuses to report whole news. they refused to tell the truth in the sense that they always on what is true.

fox news is really good at that. issue lately with the other news organizations is why does everything seem to be breaking news. 24 hours a day. breaking news it's what's happening right now. withss i would like to end we know when it's fake news when what's happening in the world doesn't match what's happening with the news that we are getting. that's the measuring stick is real life. we know what's really happening. i also have to say don't get your news from the internet. enqueue. guest: in a 24-hour news cycle think desperately have to -- they created for themselves when

they decided to publish news 24/7. host: in pennsylvania. democratic caller. areer: my family and i astonished by the number and the range of the lies told by this president. we cannot understand why the media doesn't call him out, why we don't have fact checking daily especially after his rallies. we would like to see npr or c-span, pbs, someone have a regular fact checking program to point out the lies that are being told by the president. to fact you ever go check.org or political at? caller: i would like to see it broadcast out. there should be a program mandatory the day after each of his rallies with fact checking. guest: mandatory for whom? color coat by the free press pete mandatory is the wrong word ok. -- caller: by the free press. mandatory is the wrong word ok.

that: wouldn't you agree nbc, cnn, the new york times call out trump on a daily basis? caller: the new york times, the washington post, yes i hope so. msnbc is seen as biased. i may agree with what they put out treat that's a good point. they do put on both sides. guest: all right. host: john in orlando, florida. republican. guest: all right. caller: i listen to these people talking about the president's lies. it's despicable to think that they are so biased against this president and the lies that are being told as far as i've been following this since he was elected. the liberal media is the most despicable lying propaganda organizations i've ever seen. it's disrespectful to this country. president, talking about

spin. nobody spends more than the liberal media. it's dangerous and when the president calls them out and he defends himself from all the attacks you've got the liberal him as that's not presidential. let me tell you something. i'm a regular joe. if some but he called me and my family out the way the liberal left and the cnn and the rest of the news networks are doing, i would defend myself any which way i could. he's doing the best he can to defend himself from all these false accusations. it's sickening to me. glad toreat point and hear from a florida caller. i would say of course anybody in a position where they are being called out and treated that way that trump has been treated by the media on a daily basis, of course they are going to get morally outraged. and regardless of what a candidate you should always be against seeing in accurate

treatment, biased media towards any candidate because if it can happen to somebody that you are opposed to it could just as easily happen to a candidate that you like from other media outlets. we shouldn't allow ourselves to be caught in this tribal warfare where they are going after our guy. we should all be for accurate honest mainstream journalism. will you useiteria to determine that something is fake or accurate? most of the time it's pretty darn simple. one of the most famous examples of now this being inaccurate is when they reported that trump was alive after they pointed out -- trump pointed out that clinton signed nafta. many of us live through. clinton signed nafta. anybody with access to a history book called out now this to this but they still refused to correct the record.

that goes to the point that media is going to make mistakes. that's fine. when you have a blatant falsehood and you are called out even by left-wing media, you've got to collect -- correct the record. host: were they talking about a hillary clinton? guest: bill clinton. it's terrifying. host: in ohio. go ahead. caller: i am very concerned that we have a certain ethnic interest in this country who wants to shape the media only in their direction and i have a very problem with that as a christian person that we have a dominance in this country of certain people in new york city shading the media constantly in their directions. we as white christians do not get our voice heard in this media. it's always about what the new york jewish establishment wants. host: we are going to skip that.

.ancy democratic caller. caller: thank you for shaping my call. when i'm calling about, that guy from michigan was right on fact. let's start with kellyanne conway. used the term alternative facts which just about knocked him off his chair. alternative facts. and that what is mainstream media? let me finish, ma'am. news on the cable i have then your so-called left-wing stations. guest: i would define mainstream media as those outlets that get the most views. the new york times, the washington post.

i think those are the most definitions of mainstream media simply because they have the largest audience. theoint as well is that online news outlets like now this and buzz feet are incredibly dangerous because they are primarily viewed by young people and it's much easier to change the minds of an impressionable and 18-year-old than to change the mind of a 48-year-old so that makes them a much greater threat in my eyes. there's no denying that we should call out fake news when it happens but i'm most concerned when it's going after easily impressionable young people. caller?at about daily think daily caller is more opinion pieces so i don't think it's as likely to persuade in ae who are open-minded variety of topics and influence

them in the manner that now this is. people going to daily caller are genuinely -- generally going to be center-right looking for opinion pieces. people following buzz feed on facebook are doing so why there's a list of 14 reasons why d.c. is the greatest city in america, you want leave number seven. number seven.ve host: what about alternative facts? guest: >> take you live now to the u.s. capitol. house speaker nancy pelosi and other lawmakers holding a briefing on the deferred action for childhood arrivals program, known as daca. >> over the future and fate of daca. and whether the supreme court will allow daca to stand. all of us today stand in solidarity and in support of our dreamers and our daca recipients. they are as american as any single one of us. and despite the president's attempts to slander them, to speak ill about who