with testimony by former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch, final procedures for the hearing, and the questions the committee hopes to get answered at our website and watch live coverage on c-span2, c-span.org on your computer or mobile device or listen live wherever you are with the free c-span radio app. live thursday on c-span, the house returns for work on legislation reauthorizing the u.s. export-import bank for 10 years. at 8:00 p.m., we join president trump at a campaign rally in bossier city, louisiana. on c-span2, the senate continues work on a traditional nomination to the second circuit court of appeals. 10:30, the senate energy and natural resources committee considered the nomination of dan brouillette to become the next energy secretary. the house oversight and reform committee looks at reproductive

health care. reaction to wednesday's first public impeachment inquiry hearing. "washington journal" is next. is next. [video clip] >> is this what americans should now expect from their president? if this is not impeachable conduct, what is? would not be surprised to see all the typical signs that this is a carefully orchestrated media smear campaign. ♪ host: and with that, day 1 of the house impeachment in korea began. house democrats led by adam schiff laying out the criteria to remove president trump. nunesicans and devin calling the entire process a sham.

the next round of hearings continuing tomorrow morning and for the next three hours, how the story is playing out in the news, editorial pages, and social media. we will have highlights and your calls and comments and reaction. for democrats, 202-748-8000. for republicans, 202-748-8001. if you are an independent, 202-748-8002. send us a text message, be sure to tell us your first name and where you are texting from at 202-748-8003. join us on facebook at facebook.com/cspan and on twitter at @cspanwj. good thursday morning. a lot to talk about day 1 of the inquiry including these headlines from the washington times calling it a game of telephone. also from the front page of the washington post, the testimony putting trump closer to the scandal and from the financial

times, reality tv, the trump probe goes public. john mcardle keeping track of all the other headlines and he will share that with you as well as the other schedule. how it isre is playing out online. from the huffington post, it begins with a bombshell is the headline they went with from new york magazine, the headline in the impeachment hearings get off to a subdued start. from the new york times, consequential, but dull. trump impeachment hearings begin without a bang and in terms of who won and lost the day, that up for interpretation as well. the political headline we showed you, politico writing trump exposed a brutal day for the president. 'sll taylor and george kent vivid testimony in the first open impeachment hearing blew up drum defense in the ukraine

scandal and from the conservative websites, from breitbart, bill tabor -- bill taylor's bombshell repeats what was already known. congressman jim jordan roasts star witness ambassador taylor. the headline writers likely going to be busy over the next several days. here is the schedule ahead as steve noted, the hearings continue tomorrow, marie yovanovitch recalled from her post in may, she is set to testify before the house intelligence committee tomorrow and a continues next week on tuesday, the morning of november 19 with jennifer williams, an aide to vice president mike pence will testify alongside .lex inman -- vindman that same afternoon, kurt volker, former u.s. special envoy to ukraine will testify

along with tim morrison and november 20, u.s. ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, will testify. a lot of discussion about gordon sondland at yesterday's hearing and that same afternoon on wednesday, moore cooper, deputy assistant secretary of defense will testify alongside david hale, the under secretary of state for political affairs and on thursday, the hearings end with fiona hill, former white house russian expert will be on capitol hill to testify. when it comes to the headlines, we may see a few memorable headlines tomorrow. president trump holding a campaign rally tonight in louisiana. we are airing that live on span at c-span.org. you can listen to it on the radio app. hearings public

servicing a new claim from ambassador bill taylor. he is a west point graduate, class of 1969 appointed by mike pompeo, asked personally to take over after maria bonaventure was relieved of her duties. she will testify on friday. a lot of questions on what she saw and heard. one of the headlines from yesterday's hearing is what ambassador bill taylor told the committee about what he heard. [video clip] last friday a member of my staff told me of events that occurred on july 26. while ambassador vulgar and i visited the front, a member of my staff accompanied ambassador sondland. following that meeting in the presence of my staff at a restaurant, ambassador sondland called president trump and told him of his meetings. a member of my staff could heard

president trump asking ambassador sondland about the investigations. he told president trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward. following the call, the member of my staff asked ambassador sondland what president trump thought about ukraine. ambassador sondland responded president trump cares more about the investigations of biden which giuliani was pressing for. at the time, i gave my deposition on october 22, i was not aware of this information. i am including it here for completeness. i reported this information through counsel to the state department's legal advisor and counsel for the majority and minority of this committee. it is my understanding the committee is following up on this matter. host: that new development yesterday and one other headline from fox news, day 1 of the public impeachment hearings putting pressure on modern

democrats. here are some of the details. all eyes on moderate house democrats in swing districts wednesday night. weaknesses in the democrats's key witnesses who rely on secondhand information and never once interacted with the president. the house is comprised of 431 members meaning democrats need 217 yeas to impeach the president. there are two junta 33 democrats, democrats can only lose 16 of their own and impeach the president. 31 house democrats represent more moderate districts. let's get to your phone calls. democrats line, your reaction today 1 and what you are looking forward to tomorrow and into next week. caller: what i see in all of this is we are avoiding the elephant in the room.

president trump is central to all of this. he has obstructed testimony. i think it is time for him to be subpoenaed to testify to this. the people need to see his testimony in front of the cameras. quit because he did not and presidenty clinton testified. he set precedents. he was a sitting president at the time, trump is not a cane, he needs to testify before the taxpaying citizens of america. host: thanks for the call. on our twitter page, this from bill kane. he says the impeachment inquiry is over. it is proven the president did indeed attempt to bribe the ukraine president over military aid.

what do senate republicans do? guilty or acquit. jim saying one take away depends on which side of the aisle they frequent. ted from cleveland, ohio. good morning, ted. caller: good morning. what a waste of taxpayer money, but what a joke. i haven't seen anything like this since one of the mel brooks movies. adam schiff reminds me of mr. campbell from the greenacres show where he would talk and talk and talk and not say anything. he said, we said, she said, they said, and there is no point. it is a sham and i don't blame the president for not watching it. this has become a joke. host: send us a text message at 202-748-8003. don't do it while you are driving, but tell us your first name and where you are texting from. eric in seattle says "trump

needs to testify under oath like bill clinton. he can defend himself and clear everything up. " lucille from georgia, democrats line. caller: how are you? host: we are fine, how are you doing? caller: i am blessed. host: did you watch the hearings? 5.5 hours yesterday and more tomorrow. caller: i watched it yesterday. i am like the first lady that know hen and said -- i is guilty, his family knows he is guilty, republicans no he is guilty and the callerer callers know he is guilty. trump is guilty. he wants to put it on biden and his son, he is guilty and he is

the worst president besides nixon we have ever had. usurpthe gop attempts to the hearing. we are futile to the point of --ng jim jordan fell flat on his face while every conspiracy theory was debunked. trump protectors do not have a leg to stand on. on the republican line from massachusetts, david, good morning to you. caller: good morning, sir. thank you for taking my call. i did not watch the hearings yesterday, but i did watch the testimony of mr. kent and mr. taylor. foreign-born american, i did identify with them and some of their presentation a little bit. i walk away from the impression they present themselves by way

of their pedigree and their current positions as being the lords and barons of u.s. foreign policy and really demonstrated their ties with the deep state and their views, whatever they may be of what america should be doing and its interference in foreign nations. i think this business of trying to paint russia into some form of a corner is dangerous business for everybody. gentlemen, i don't think they are doing the deep state any favor by the nature of their presentation. host: when you refer to the deep state, what specifically are you referring to? bureaucrats? the state department? caller: i do find it as members by those in elected office and

various administrations to include the foreign service to carry out their view of what they think the world order should be and what the structure ought to be as opposed to what americans, by their generous nature, would prefer it to be. i think trump is trying to move us into a direction that is much more reflective of what everyday american values and sense of justice calls for. host: did you watch the testimony of ambassador bill taylor yesterday? caller: again, i mentioned earlier in this conversation that i did not watch it yesterday, i watched it this morning. host: did you find ambassador taylor credible? at the end of his testimony, i would say his credibility is tied to his relationship with interest that

are probably not those of most americans. they are trying to exercise some form of influence in ukraine that igard to russia don't think is really reflective of what americans would like. why is germany and poland not fully engaged in helping ukraine? host: thanks for the call from massachusetts. john mcardle, what do you have? host 2: i want to come back to the clip you played for viewers a few minutes ago, william taylor describing what he said a staffer told him about an incident in which that staffer overheard a phone call between ambassador sondland and the president of the united states, that is one of the key moments that came out of yesterday's hearing and nbc news reporting a source familiar with the matter told nbc news that staffer is

david holmes, a state department official and now it seems the house intelligence committee will be hearing from david made hearing yesterday, two officials added to the closed-door deposition list, david holmes one of those -- the other official, mark sandy and will be testifying behind closed doors -- the counselor for political affairs, holmes worked directly with taylor. one more tweet on that front, this from kyle griffin, and nbc news reporter. david holmes the official who heard the trump sondland call received an award in 2014 for speaking up internally against the obama administration's afghan policy, potentially complicating republican plans to paint him as a liberal partisan.

we are likely going to hear more about david holmes in the days to come. throughout this morning, we will let you know if and when the tweetent tweets -- he did before our program started. this from the president at 6:54 a.m. eastern referring to congressman radcliffe asking the two star witnesses where is the impeachable event in that call? both stared straight ahead with a blank look on their face, remained silent and were unable to answer the question. that would be the end of the case by -- for normal people, but not schuiff. host: carol writes the democrats actedtnesses asked did -- professionally. they were playing two an audience of one, their lord and

master in the white house. all must be loyal to him and him alone. congressman adam schiff insisting he does not know the identity of the whistleblower. that was an intense exchange yesterday. [video clip] >> we will not permit the outing of the whistleblower. if necessary, i will intervene. --erwise, i want recognized.n is not >> i am responding to the gentlewoman's point of order. >> otherwise, members will have opportunity to ask any questions they like. subpoenaed the whistleblower so the questions should be appropriately asked by our side and your side.

i would prefer rather than it be your single decision, that the committee speak to that issue rather than the chairman. my single not be decision, we will entertain a motion to subpoena any witness, but after the witnesses have an opportunity to testify. that motion will be suspended until after the -- do you enter despite -- anticipate when we might vote on the ability to have the was a blower in front of us --whistleblower in front of us? your staff is the only staff of any member of congress who has had a chance to talk to that individual. when might that happen -- >> i do not know the identity of the whistleblower and i will

make sure that identity is protected. you will have an opportunity after the witnesses testify to take a motion -- make a motion to testify any witness and compel a vote. host: that exchange with jim jordan, adam schiffa. rt joining -- art joining us from california, the republican line. any takeaways? caller: my take away was the one representative mentioned to the the two keyesses people talking, the ambassador hadthe other aid that he more information from a church bible chain then he had from the 5. he heard that he heard that he said that she said -- it is ridiculous. i don't know that the da would prosecute me for doing something like that in riverside county.

i would think they would want to legislate and fix the infra-structure of america and .ake america -- make america great again. host: we are getting your calls, your reaction and showing you the hearing. you can listen to the hearings live on c-span radio and the c-span networks and the free c-span radio app. maryland,ining us in democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. these people don't understand anything trump's tells them, they believe it.

trump got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and he is guilty. the gentleman that just called -- host: thanks to the -- thanks for the call. to the headline from politico.com, trump exposed. a brutal day for the president. an impeachment inquiry is a constitutional exercise, a vindication of checks and balances, a living expression of rule of law. there was breaking news from the hearings, but it was mostly a matter of detail. there was no -- there was a new anecdote from william taylor about trump haranguing a subordinate to keep up the pressure on ukraine to investigate the biden family. this was a validation of an existing narrative. it was -- the day was a vivid

portrait in a grave setting of trump being trump, obsessive, hectoring, contemporaries -- can temporous.con impeachment is not merely an increase into presidential misconduct, it is a violent presidentialo the psychology. the essay by john harris available at politico.com. joe from massachusetts, independent line. good morning, joe. caller: hi, steve. i am trying to correct the record. i was listening last week and somebody called and asked about the whistleblower act and when was it enacted and i believe you said in the late 1700s. i worked for the federal government and that act was

passed in april of 1998. the act was past for civil service -- passed for civil service people so if they wanted to complain about somebody, they would be protected as far as losing their job and getting demoted. host: what i was referring to was in the federalist state version. those in the government should be able to speak freely without any indignation. you are more -- write about the more recent legislation. the roots of it back to federalist papers. caller: never so, but i never heard of that. id.e is no protection of if i say you did something wrong, for example, if you are a coworker, the coworker has a right to know who said it and they have a right to question me. where did i get the information? you just cannot believe somebody because they are saying something. host: you think they whistleblower should testify?

caller: of course they should. store,y i saw you rob a i have to come into court and be a witness. host: to use that analogy is he is saying i heard that happened. if you are a witness to a crime, they want you to testify. if you hear there is a crime and you tell police, does that mean you should testify? otherwise you could have a reason -- i could accuse you of anything. we have to prove it. we are going to end up with people saying whatever they want and not having to prove it and not even have to be exposed that they said it. host: rick has this tweet, is it not a security breach to talk on an unsecure phone call from a restaurant in ukraine? john mcardle has been looking into that question. host 2: one story on that front

in today's washington post, a u.s. ambassador cell phone call from president trump to a restaurant in ukraine was a stunning breach of security, exposing the conversation to surveillance. impromptunoting the conversation we have been talking about this morning on the washington journal already, that was one of the key moments from yesterday's hearing took leisa day after the official july 20 fifth call between trump and president zelensky in which trump pressed for investigations . zelinski was eager to secure a white house village -- visit. it was noteworthy the ambassador -- u.s. ambassador's typically do not just pick up the phone and call presidents, they never do that to discuss ukraine policy, according to michael mcfall. he said doing so on a cell phone

from kiev means the whole world was listening. russia has shown its ability to monitor diplomat calls and the kremlin has no hesitation leaking it out when it suits their interest. in 2014, and intercepted phone conversation between victoria nuland and ambassador to ukraine jeffrey piatt appeared on youtube. he was referred -- he was heard referring dismissively -- story, the that washington post today. want to follow up on your conversation with joe a few minutes ago on the history of the whistleblower protection act. joe noted it was a late 1980's it was passed, april of 1989 when the federal whistleblower protection act was passed. according to the national whistleblower center and as we

talked about on july 30 on national whistleblower appreciation day, the roots go back to the revolutionary war times. it was in 1778 on july 30 the continental congress passed what could be the world's first whistleblower law. the national whistleblower center noting our forefathers, when they learned two whistleblowers exposed misconduct and that they were being prosecuted in rhode island agreed to act. they voted to spend money from the new government's treasury to ensure the whistleblowers had lawyers to defend them. they voted to release all the naval records documenting the whistleblower's concerns. if you want more, a good place to go, the national whistleblower center. us fromarles is joining michigan, republican line. good morning, charles. caller: i would just like to say

this impeachment stuff is all a circus. host: we will go to catherine in new york. good morning, catherine. caller: good morning. this is what i would like to know, when are we going to speak to mitch mcconnell? mitch mcconnell stated on camera he was looking for what happened to that money and then he stated he was unable to find out what happened to it. fore holds the purse america and then he states he doesn't know what happened to the money, that is extremely scary to me because we have a division of the powers and the president does not have the right to the power of the purse. he usurped that power.

that is my comment. host: we will have an up date on what the senate will do once the impeachment inquiry is wrapped up in the house. jerry in ohio, you are next. number one, i am 70 years old. i did watch the entire hearing yesterday and the whole time i am thinking this song is going through my head, back in my iildhood, reo speed wagon, heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another you have been messing around. i want some firsthand testimony. i want somebody that actually knows something, not somebody that thinks they know something. host: so nothing yesterday changed your mind? caller: these guys were embarrassing. i was waiting for the clown car to pick them up afterwards.

valley, arizona, good morning. caller: good morning. i agree with that gentleman. i think it was like watching a kindergarten class trying to separate them. everybody knows this is a twisted ploy to take over our government and this only shows the american people that they will destroy anyone who goes against them and the next person could be you. john is joining us next, new jersey, democrats line. did you watch the hearings yesterday or during the re-air last night or c-span? caller: yes, i did, i am quite taken aback by little jimmy jordan's comments because he cannot get the whistleblower

it is a law that it won't give up the name. was appropriations for projects that they have in congress are allocated for what the project is. the president or the republican cardi -- party, which did not allocate that that has no right to spend that wherever they want to. they have tried to divert hurricane relief and diverted this money for ukraine. ukraine is a bumper zone between us and the russians. the soviet union is alive and well. mr. donald trump has got the wrong friends.

host: thanks for the call from new jersey. an earlier caller with reference to what happens among senate republicans, that story inside the washington post. the lengthy trial could hinder senators running for president. here is some of the details from the washington post. some republican senators and their advisors are privately discussing whether to pressure gop leaders to stage a lengthy impeachment trial beginning in january to scramble the democratic presidential race, potentially keeping 6 contenders in washington until the eve of the iowa caucuses or longer. those conversations remain fluid and closely held. that according to more than a dozen participants. deliberations, as senate republican leader mitch mcconnell faces pressure from conservative activists to swat back at democrats as public impeachment hearings begin in the house, the discussion raising a potential hazard for for6 senators running

president who planned for a final sprint out of washington .efore the iowa caucuses there is an emerging divide among republicans over the timing of some republicans who favor a lengthy trial as a means of defending the president and creating problems for democrats. others are calling for a swift dismissal or final vote. lasted five weeks and had a bipartisan consensus as to the start on how to proceed aidesing to mcconnell's and allies. our live coverage of that, if it takes place, will be on c-span 2. robert in clinton, maryland, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. the arrogance of the gentleman yesterday to believe they are the people that decide foreign policy for the united states of

america, that is the deep state we are talking about. they believe they run the country, but the president is the guy that decides foreign in this country. just because they don't like that they went around -- he went around them, they had hearsay upon hearsay upon hearsay. that is all we have. the nonsense going on in this country where the media and democrats want to absolutely steal the votes of 63 million americans are going to do nothing but enrage those 63 million and turn them into 80 million. keep doing what you are doing. if you guys are so confident in your case, why would you want to hide your number one witness, a cia operative working as a spy in the white house? we want to talk about laws in this country?

the cia is illegal to operate in the united states of america. i say again, the cia is not lawfully allowed to operate against the united states citizen. it is illegal for them to operate in the united states. eric is a cia agent whistleblower. he is the -- he is the and has plenty of connections to obama, biden, all of these people. host: this is from the commentary page of the washington times, is ignorance of the constitution trump's defense? republicans will contend the president cannot be punished for what he did not know. another stage yesterday from george kent and jim himes of connecticut, let's watch. [video clip] >> the defenders of the president's behavior have made a big deal out of the fact vice president biden encouraged ukrainians to remove a corrupt former ukrainian prosecutor, mr.

shogun. senator rand paul said they are impeaching the president, president trump for exactly the same thing that joe biden did. is that correct? did in his president phone call and what joe biden did -- are those exactly the same things and if not, how are they different? >> i do not think they are the same things. what former vice president biden requested of the former president of ukraine was the removal of a corrupt prosecutor general who had undermined a program of assistance we had spent u.s. taxpayer money to try to build an independent investigator unit to go after corrupt prosecutors and they what ash there was a case called the diamond prosecutor case in which shogun destroyed the ecosystem we are trying to

create, the investigators, the judges who issued the warrants, the law enforcement who had warrants to do the wiretapping, everybody to protect his former driver who he made a prosecutor, that is what joe biden was asking three >> joe biden was participating in an open effort to establish -- address corruption in ukraine. >> that is correct. mess,you look at this rudy giuliani, president trump, was this a copperheads of and hold of government effort to end corruption in ukraine? >> referring to the request in july? >> exactly. >> i would not say so. >> i don't think president trump was trying to end corruption in ukraine. i think he was trying to aim corruption at joe biden and the 2020 election. host: congressman himes and george kent along with ambassador taylor appointed by the president, their testimony

yesterday. how is it playing out in the editorial pages? this from the wall street journal, the banality of impeachment is the headline. the editorial page of the wall street journal writes the impeachment case after the failure of noncollusion with russia and the non-obstruction of robert mueller boils down to president trump's dealings over a few weeks this summer with president zelensky. timers who want to save should read adam schiff's opening testimony. policy cooperation that survey president's personal, political interest. president obama was caught in the hot mic with dmitry ask vladimir putin .o give him space president trump's actions cannot be separated from democratic

attempts in 2016 to use russian disinformation to unleash an fbi counterintelligence operation against the trump campaign. that from the editorial page of the wall street journal and john mcardle keeping track of what to expect tomorrow. another round of hearings with the former ambassador to ukraine. host 2: it begins tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. on c-span 2 if you want to follow along for the second day of the open impeachment hearings. we want to give you background on marie yovanovitch. c-span viewers will know sarah wyer well for appearances on this network, writing marie yovanovitch was recalled to the u.s. in may after what had been described as a smear campaign backed by president trump and giuliani will testify on friday and a transcript of her deposition, she

warned lawmakers about the dangers of foreign actors being able to manipulate u.s. policy and spoke at length about the effort to remove her as an impediment to truly on a --giuliani's efforts. by february, one of the senior ukrainian officials was concerned and told me i need to watch my back. democrats likely expect her testimony to make the case that efforts to pressure ukraine to act on the 2016 election or the single phoneond a call. expect republicans to stress she was not on the call and trump lost confidence in her. they will likely also highlight other aspects of her testimony as well. that testimony from october the 11th. host: a viewer saying it seems like democrats cannot easily

explain these complicated scams to the average american, but how many of them do they need to include in their inquiry? from elizabeth, the president is a 100% coward. i have been hearing he had no way to answer to this. he brags about a perfect call and yet he will not allow one person on his staff to speak. a text message from charles in san francisco. i find it curious none of the americans demand to hear from whose evidence witnesses appearance the president refuses to allow. charles in north carolina, democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. the republican sit there and donald donald trump in front ofright him and they deny he is not

doing anything wrong and then they are saying russia did not have anything to do with this and then they want to put the blame on another country and that is ok. then they want the whistleblower to come out and expose himself. editorial from the wall street journal, the headline the banality of impeachment. in a healthier political culture, democrats would use the ukraine episode as an argument against mr. trump's reelection. how can you trust his foreign policy judgment in a second term when he will not have the check of another reelection? instead, democrats have pulled out the constitutional bazooka of impeachment, doing so in a partisan faction and in a political rush to beat the 2020 political calendar. they are turning impeachment into a routine political weapon and future presidents of both

parties will regret it. angelo from miami, good morning. caller: good morning. are we not listening to the american people? i ameren tired senior paralegal for the largest litigators -- i and a retired senior paralegal for the largest litigators in miami. a senior partner told me we have to get this case together. i have this witness that told me such and such said. do not waste my time, that is hearsay. of the constitution of the united states is based on fact. for years, i was doing research for attorneys to litigate and represent our laws. i have never, in my 30 years of practice, ever heard you put a case based on hearsay.

we need to read the constitution of the united states. are we not listening to the american people? it is ridiculous, the hearing last night. it was a circus. i used to be a democrat, i changed parties. i got so sick of democratic-socialist's not accepting it is what it is. he is our president, we need to respect him. it is our law, the beauty of this country. everybody wants to live here for a reason. the economy has gotten better, unemployment has come down, just imagine if we would let him be president. if all the turmoil he has, if it is not this today, it is tomorrow. i can guarantee he will be our president again. i can be in the legal field for many years and this is not helping the democrat. this is a reality check to those

listening and the american people that this is not how we run our laws and countries. tweet at can send us a @cspanwj. with the media having lost all credibility, it is difficult to know the truth about the impeachment hearings. continue to send us your calls and comments. the u.s. house and senate in session, day 2 of the impeachment increase getting underway tomorrow morning. 9:00 a.m. eastern, 6:00 for those of you on the west coast and you can listen on c-span radio. , was taken offch the job by the president and mike pompeo -- her testimony before the house intelligence committee tomorrow morning. times,om the new york the best republican defense, a bad offense. the times writing the following, what did americans learn from the first day of open hearings

in the impeachment increase? they learned information about another witness who reportedly overheard a telephone conversation in which the president pressing to find out if ukrainians had committed to investigating his top political rival. they are still served by people of integrity committed to advancing the national interest. the two witnesses both deeply experienced diplomats providing precise, nonpartisan, and damming testimony about the efforts at the center of the inquiry, the secret shakedown of ukraine by mr. trump and his associates for political gain. those americans who tuned in also learned republicans on the house intelligence committee set themselves a degrading task. rather than engage in the facts, they are twisting them and leaving them by inventing new ones they would prefer. they spent most of wednesday stuffing straw men and knocking them down.

one of those exchanges with jim jordan, republican of ohio, let's watch. come back to that in a moment. leonard in arizona. good morning, leonard. caller: i have two statements. i did watch the testimony, by the way. the first one is with so much at stake, wouldn't any country, especially one with a tainted corruption history be encouraged to manufacture evidence that otherwise does not exist against the bidens? sure what trump has done thus far is impeachable as opposed to a censure. one defense could certainly be that -- which he has used in the past, with giuliani being an associate attorney general famous for prosecuting trumption cases, wouldn't

know whether or not he would have the experience to determine what is appropriate and what is not? hasp in the past demonstrated he can definitely throw his own lawyers under the bus. i think those are two comments i have not really heard much commentary on. host: if you had to write one of the headlines for a newspaper in arizona, what would it include from yesterday's hearing? caller: [laughter] that is a great -- that is a fantastic question. -- i thinkobably be it would be definitely there is a quid pro quo, however, trump's intentions are sincere. intentionp -- trump's as it relates to trying to get

the united states away from other countries spending millions and billions of dollars building infrastructure elsewhere that is otherwise destroyed by military and not to build infrastructure in the united states is obscene. art to hisre is an defense although he cannot come to admitting himself being wrong. if he admitted himself wrong, which is difficult for him to do, he could spin this and he could spin this in a positive way. host: i don't want to put words in your mouth, but you don't think yesterday changed anything? you don't think it moved the needle? caller: he definitely should be censured. i am not sure it is impeachable. coveraget is also safe for the republicans as well. i think the motivation is important. the intention is important and i

think that is what trump could easily spin. host: thanks for the call. the headline from the new york times editorial, the best defense, a bad offense, taking aim at jim jordan and others. here is one of those exchanges with ambassador bill taylor. [video clip] >> we have 6 people having 4 conversations in one sentence and you tell me this is where you got your clear understanding . even though you had three opportunities with president zelinski for him to tell you we will do these investigations to get the aid, did not tell you three different times, never makes an announcement or does the cnn interview. you did not listen in on the call? >> i did not. >> you never met with chief of staff mick mulvaney? >> >> i did not. >>you had never met the president? >> that is correct. >> president zelinski never made

an announcement? this is what i cannot believe and you are their star witness. you are their first witness. you are the guy based on this. i have seen church prayer chains easier to understand than this. i hereby swear and affirm from gordon sondland. ambassador taylor -- on september 1, this all happens, by the way -- this all happens in warsaw where vice president pence meets with president zelinski and they did not talk about any linkage either. >> ambassador taylor, would you like to respond? >> i have two responses, thank you. don't consider i myself a star witness for anything. >> they do. >> i am responding to your question. i amnk i was clear about

not here to take one side or the other or advocate any particular outcomes. the second thing is my understanding is only coming from people i talked to. this clarification from ambassador sondland was because he said he did not remember this in his first deposition. he wanted to clarify. the way i read this, he remembers at the same way i do. >> it is real clear, right? >> it is very clear to me. host: that is from congressman jim jordan, one of the president's staunchest defenders. this is from don, a tweet saying forget the house and the senate, the american people won't stand for it. be gloriousit will

indeed, i am betting nancy will be quietly begging mitch mcconnell to let it go. she knows they are screwed. raising the stakes, new information about a conversation overheard by ambassador bill aylor and all of this with potential impact on 2020 politics and john mcardle looking into news stories on that. host 2: campaign 2020 not pausing for the impeachment inquiry, another shakeup today. we have been hearing rumblings, a former 2 term governor joining field,ocratic primary this is the front page of the boston globe, telling the globe he is launching his bid in new hampshire. also launching it on twitter via a video. 22nd about a 2 minute and video. here is part of it in which he talks about the already crowded

democratic primary and where he sees himself fitting in. [video clip] >> i admire and respect the candidates in the democratic field. if the character of the candidates is an issue in every election, this time is about the character of the country. this time is about whether the day after the election, america will keep their promises. this time is about more than removing an unpopular and divisive leader, as important as that is, but about delivering instead free you. in the spirit of profound gratitude for all the country has given to me and with the determination to build a better, more sustainable, more inclusive american dream for the next generation, i am announcing my candidacy for president of the united states. come be a part of this, we will build as we climb, to welcome

other teachers and learners, other seekers of a better way and builders of a better future. i am placing my faith in the people who feel left out and won a fair shot at a better future not built by somebody better than you, but built with you. let's get started. from deval patrick as candidates get out of the race and others get in to the race. you can follow all of it as part of our coverage. from inside the wall street journal, a look outside the hearing room. a carnival atmosphere as political junkies and others came in high spirits and relished the historic moment. you can get details at wsj.com. natalie in georgia, good morning. caller: good morning. host: let me point out you are calling on the democrats line. caller: i am a democrat. good morning.

i want to start off by saying i do not understand why anyone who loves this country would want to turn it over to another country like trump has been doing with russia. i have been watching a little bit of the hearings. i had to work on some of it. for generations, russia has not been our friend and especially in the 1920's and other times, they have been trying to come into america and spin it all around so they can get a stronghold in their place -- and their place in the world. he is actually winning right now with what trump is doing. i am going to try to go quickly because i know you have other callers. manperson in maryland, that was talking about the president running foreign policy only, i don't agree with that because we have several heads, we have a congress and the people.

againstot want to go ukraine, that was not our decision. what he did was not right. isng extortion and bribery against the constitution and having ignorance is not an excuse. outn average person can go there and say my intention was sos -- this is an inquiry, it is not like he is ready to go to jail, but if he is so innocent, why is he stopping people close to him from telling the truth? why are they holding records and gentlemen were talking about during the hearings? why aren't republicans putting up facts instead of arguing silly statements when all he has

to do as that one senator said, answer the questions in front of the people. then all of this will be going away. i don't understand how republicans or anyone, i am not going to say public and's, anyone can follow that trump is so innocent and being tortured and mistreated when he is the author of the problem and he won't stand up and say what he did. he did on television several times, but nobody wants to see that. host: going back to this headline from the washington times, is ignorance of the constitution trump's defense? andrew writing republicans will contend the president cannot be published for what he did not know. i am sharing this because he tweeted a moment ago. kevin mccarthy with this, democrats are so afraid of facing the president in the next election they are abusing their power to impeach him. this is all they have been doing since day 1.

deborah in indiana, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you this morning? host: fine, how are you? i am doing fine. at the last time i talk to you i think it was october 12 and i was you me and my family having a discussion where we could not talk about legislation and impeachment. you had the hearing yesterday and i watched it and guess what happened? to theppened was we came a peacefulthat him transition of power. if you had gave him a peaceful , three years power

, if he had done anything wrong, we would be able to see it now. but you all have been attacking him, and what has happened with me watching the hearing yesterday, this morning i woke up to get my grandkids off to school, at 6:30 every morning. untild i did not wake up --6 because my grandfather my granddaughter last night, went to bed at 9:00. to said when are they going impeach him? and the other girl said, what did he do? these are fourth-graders. the: deborah, thanks for call from south bend, indiana. hearing from you, showing you headlines, and getting your reaction today one of the impeachment inquiry that will

continue again tomorrow. this is the headline, front page below the fold of "the washington post" -- dueling president'sn the actions. the coverage you saw on this network or any other network came from the c-span cameras are that will continue again tomorrow morning. bonaventur marie jovanovich she testifies. the hearings will continue into next week. the president, with the president of turkey, on any other day would be the lead story. still a lot of news from the white house, including this one from the joint news conference, in which the president was asked about the hearings. m >. do you feel that democrats made their case, and how do you feel about the republican performance? pres. trump: are you talking about the witchhunt? is that what you mean?

-- i have been with the president, which is more important. this is a sham and should not be allowed. it was a situation that was caused by people that should not have allowed it to happen. i want to find out who is the whistleblower. because the whistleblower gave a lot of very incorrect information, including my call with the president of ukraine, which was a perfect call and highly appropriate, and he wrote something that was much different than the fact. ig,nt to find out why the why he would have presented that when in fact all we have to do is check the call itself and he would have seen it. i am going to release on thursday, a second call, which actually was the first of the two p you will make a determined as to what you think there. saide heard a report, they it is all thirdhand information, nothing direct at all, cannot be

direct because i never said it. and all they have to do is look very simply at the transcript. if you read the transcript, this was analyzed by great lawyers. this was analyzed by greg in, it was mark live analyzed by everybody and they in, and by mark livev they said that the call was a perfect one with the president of ukraine. that this country gets put through that, that we have to byte this gentleman's time even thinking about it, talking about it, i would rather focus on peace in the middle east. i hear that it is a hoax and it is being played as a hoax. that is what i hear. but you will have to tell me. go ahead. host: that from the white house, in a news conference yesterday afternoon from the east room. the front page of "the washington times" game of telephone. the democrats revealing another

instance of hearsay. john keeping track of all the day's stories. good morning. john: you were talking a few days ago about the circus-like atmosphere amid the impeachment hearings yesterday. inside that hearing room, 100 seats for members of the public, some 100 50 seats for members of the media, but that circus scene come as you saw, the c-span cameras continued in the hallways and the office building there at the longworth house office building. what -- one other story on the atmosphere of the day had to do with canine visitors to capitol hill on the same day the impeachment hearing was held. this story from "the new york post." visits stress atgressional staffers impeachment hearings, coming from pet partners and the joint advisory council to spread

positive vibes among two-lakers -- two-leggers on capitol hill. as rollcall notes, even at the longworth building hallways outside the ways and means committee room, swarmed with reporters, one could walk over to the rayburn building next door for a pet therapy reprieve from the chaos. that story from rollcall today. one other story on the atmosphere, and some of the items you might have picked up on watching on tv -- george kent's bowtie got a lot of attention yesterday, this from "the new york times." all the grandstanding and , there -- and punditing was a lot of attention given to the bowtie of george kent. hands down, people voted yes on

it. can'tbowtie. an immediate fashion icon. the new york times yesterday, the envoys revealed the scope of the trump ukraine push. our calls,ack to from the independent line, tom in south carolina. good morning. caller: good morning. i did watch the latest version, or the latest episode of the scripted reality tv show known as congress yesterday, where both sides played their roles, read their parts, and it looks like congress now has shifted from looking out for the interests of the american people to looking out for their own interests. we go through this impeachment seeing -- ande nothing else gets done in congress. there is not a budget that has been passed.

what used to be the premier infrastructure in the world is deteriorating at a rate that we might not be ever able to return to. nothing is being done. people cannot buy prescription drugs because of the pricing. nothing is happening in immigration. and this is not just happening now. it has gone back decades. so maybe we need to take a look at ourselves, and we are sending people to congress who are more interested in the star chamber of washington than they are of us, and maybe also we don't have to worry about foreign influence to destroy our country. we are doing the best we can to do it ourselves, because we are focused on this political theater, whether it be trump -- who probably should not be in office -- or it was obama before

him and bush before him, and clinton before him. god holy help the next person who is president because the day after the election, the in the -- the investigations will begin. host: to that point, the first impeachment of a president was in the late 1860's, andrew johnson. it was more than 100 years later when it took place against richard nixon. now this is the third impeachment inquiry over the last 45 years, with richard nixon, bill clinton, and now donald trump. host: the political system has weaponized impeachment. impeachment has become a political tool, and that has become a problem, a huge problem. what are we going to do next as a people? are we going to destroy ourselves? because khrushchev once said, we will bury you. not mean he directly. he meant we would destroy

ourselves, and we are destroying ourselves. host: take a look at "the wall street journal" editorial, because they conclude that. telling the caller to get a life. politico.com, the white house trying to protect calm -- trying to project calm even as the gop launches a counteroffensive. that is the headline. within the white house on wednesday, quickly settling on biggest sin of democrats as they -- they were boring. president trump said he was not even watching, too busy with other important work. onice is keeping an eye muted tv's, but they dismissed the landmark events as a tedious affair. was belied -- the attempt to project calm within the west

wing was belied throughout the money by a cascade of combat of email blasts, tweets, and statements that flowed from trump's war room. everett is joining us from fort lauderdale. good morning, everett. caller: is that melvin? host: melvin, i'm sorry you're next. caller: i hope you give me time like you gave these other people. host: certainly. caller: tell mitch mcconnell to do something. also the bills that were just passed by the democratic congress, and mitch mcconnell holds them up. he will not pass any of them. then the lady was talking about her granddaughter and getting up and what did he do? the problem is not what did he do, it is what he did. told 13,000 lies and

everything else. he has sent more people to jail with respect to dealing with him. he even tried to pimp about his dad doing something. that is just a point before i get to the other part. do, they had ao 60 minute interview on sunday with the president of the philippines. i want you to show that and see if there is any difference between what this guy is doing and what donald trump has done. as a matter of fact, this guy talked about killing drug dealers in the street to get rid trump comes donald trump back in, he could walk up fifth avenue and kill a person. it is amazing listening to these people in this country who in law enforcement everybody comes and tells you, first that everybody is going on. no, you work through other

people to get to the individual that actually has the information. that becomes your star witness at the end. host: melvin, thank you for your call from fort lauderdale. inside the washington post, house democrats cannot just get over it. he writes the following. if the house doesn't deed -- does indeed bring impeachment articles to the floor, it will likely pass with little to no republican support. it appears virtually certain to end with trump's acquittal. thes morning from " washington post co. from somerville, pennsylvania. republican line, good morning. caller: good morning, gentlemen, and thank you for taking my call. first to the caller from south carolina, don't give up face. this is the best government we have, so don't give up faith. i have three quick comments. we watched the hearings

yesterday. i was so impressed by mr. kent. i think he was unbiased and everyone would be served well listening to how he answered the questions. this is how we all should approach these hearings. i think he established the efficiently that security and onruption with ukraine is the top of the list in our foreign policy. remember, that is what the president says he was concerned with. the idea of corruption and then giving money. by the way, it occurred to me that if he asked for investigations on hunter biden, hunter biden is not a candidate for president. so i don't understand where we can draw this line about getting dirt on his opponents. secondly, the whole idea of the litany, the six people talking in a sentence and the absurdity

of it, look at the ambassador's reaction. he was actually laughing about that, at the absurdity of it. and the most shocking part of that hearing for us was when wasled lupa -- chalupa identified as one of the whistleblowers come and his direct line to the dossier, clinton, digging up dirt on trump. --hereaction of mr. schiff was pk's, he started to sweat. then later he actually confirmed the identity of the whistleblower. and the media has not even spoken about this this morning. -- i am just shocked at all of this, and i think that the president will be acquitted, and also, my last comment is my husband and i would love c-span

to invite judge judy on to your show. i would love to hear her comments about how this ridiculous smear campaign is being carried out. because we jokingly laugh, "what would judge judy say?" things like i don't care what your opinion is, it doesn't matter what you think, or don't tell me what they said, that is hearsay. yet at the highest level of our society, we are listening to this nonsense. thank you so much, to my two favorite morning -- host: brian, thanks. my guess is that judge judy is under contract, but not a bad suggestion. times," "the financial times," the trump probe goes public. john carter was looking into more news involving the president, but not necessarily the inquiry that took place yesterday. john? guest: i would be happy to

interview judge judy if you are not available that day. in our attempt to keep viewers updated on all the stories making news, this exclusive from cnn and hour or two ago, getting a lot of attention. the story noting that in its effort to sell off the lease of the trump international hotel in downtown washington, the trump organization has put together a new investor brochure, complete with pictures showcasing the hotel's grand architecture. the himalayan salt chamber, the biggest selling point, according to a copy of that brochure, the one thing that the trump family insists it did not take advantage of. profiteering off foreign governments. tremendous upside potential exists for the new owner to fully capitalize on government related business upon rebranding 46-pagessets, reads the investor pitch. that investor pitch is an explicit acknowledgment, they

write, about how important foreign business is to the 253-room luxury hotel in the old post office building just blocks from the white house. that exclusive story. just a couple other notes, "the hill" reporting that eric trump has said in a statement a month ago that the company may be willing to set off -- to sell off a lease of that property. "the wall street journal" says the company hopes to get some $500 million in leasing rights from that transaction. the exclusive story today on the brochure from cnn. ont: starting a trend twitter with regard to judge judy. the caller -- you were surprised you did not see this coming? it is a yes on judge judy from me. she would have none of the spirit she is also endorsing michael bloomberg to run for president. independent line from washington, good morning. caller: good morning, how are

you? host: we are fine, thank you. how are you? caller: good. first of all, giuliani has a big mouth, and my opinion, he is going to being -- to bring trump down and should stay out of it because he doesn't know what he's doing. let's see. thejordan -- if he wants whistleblower to testify, then mr. trump should be sitting there and have to testify, too, with his more than 1200 lies. i am sure the people would like to hear what he has to say. and see how many more lies he could tell. host: as a way of historical in a there is a precedent sitting president testifying before a committee, because president gerald ford, former member of the house, did testify after his pardon of richard nixon. that is available on the c-span video library. caller: interesting.

and another thing, i think donald trump should go on "the ,iew," just like his son did and see how he can do on "the view." host: thank you. we will go to anthony next. ocean gaetz, new jersey. anthony, did you watch day one of the inquiry yesterday? caller: yes, i did. host: what was your take away? caller: basic take away is that is just another performance from staters in front of the camera. if you listen to what they had to say, it is all about this is what we had planned, in our vision of the ukraine. had to follow the policy of the president and what his policy sets. the last comment i have to say is i have been watching your channel for a long time. and i really enjoyed watching your channel.

but i notice more and more how biased your channel has been getting. mereally is upsetting to because i have watched the channel every day. and your channel is just getting more and more biased. host: how so? caller: how so? all you really do is talk about what these democrats, crazy democrats, are spewing out there. that is what you have been doing. you have been spewing remarks from these people. host: we have also been showing the republican side. caller: you are not saying things when they are saying lies. these are not stopping them. on the other hand, when it comes to republicans and they say something, right away you stop them. and you interrupt and you subject what democrats are saying. that is bias. host: who specifically have we interrupted today? caller: you are a very biased

station just like the rest of the news stations out there. host: who have we interrupted today? he hung up. we will go to steve in falls church, virginia, on the democrats line. good morning, steve. back, youfew calls asked somebody about a title for what is going on. host: the question is, if you were going to run a headline, what would it be? caller: that was it. i would like to be on the conference call when it happened. because that would end the whole investigation if they just interviewed somebody that was actually on the conference call. host: steve, thanks for the call. mike is joining us next. good morning from illinois, independent line. good morning. caller: a little history -- remember obama. he was the senator of illinois. when he became president, the jevich,r, blago

if you recall, he was caught on tape, his little phone call, saying what i got here is golden . ok? i want something for it. i'm going to pick the next senator. somebody's got to do something for me. that's all he said. that guy is in jail now for 15 years, he is in therefore? and they are asking trump to pardon him. well, if trump thinks what he is up to is perfectly fine, how come he has not pardoned blagojevich yet? host: thank you for the call, mike. this is from bill. the impeachment inquiry is over. it has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that president trump did indeed attempt to the president of ukraine for military aid. next from minnesota. caller: good morning. he watched that and came away

with that? absolute proof? unreal. statement about prejudice or bias, you did say that the ambassador heard a phone call per he did not. one of his staffers did. he said i remember somebody saying that, which i am sure was fed him by somebody else. my point is, this is a ridiculous -- what do you think is going to happen to the nation if you remove a president that was duly elected based on secondhand -- by the way, the examples -- these guys have been on a tour of the nation on our dime for 30 years. what they are really upset about is that they are no longer the only voice, that they do not get to set policy per that they are just a couple of unelected rich

kids living in another country who sit at cocktail parties and share rumors. and then they proceed to go on , ournal television national impeachment, and pretend like it matters what they say. like the guy said, all i have got is what to tell you, what i overheard. are you kidding me? and that is the witness. that is -- that is what you want to remove a president for. what do you think is going to happen if this goes on? host: play along with us. if you were to write a headline in yesterday's hearing, what with the headline include? "revolution is coming." host: gary, thanks for the call. on our independent line, joe is from south carolina. good morning, joe. caller: how are you doing today? host: good to hear from you again. caller: my wife tells me i am better than nothing, so i will go with that.

folks, before i make a comment, i don't even know how many years i have been watching c-span. it is the only no-spin zone on tv. if you try to call fox, you cannot call those other shows and you would be shut down if you had an opinion. , steve, youreciate position of neutrality. you always maintain that, and i think it is always fair. you are always fair to your callers. so now that i got that over -- i did watch. "kent ande would be, taylor, all for nothing we did not already know." something about the whistleblower, about hearsay -- i have a comment about military spending. host: certainly. caller: i was the and dod. host: explained that for those who do not know. worked for a dod agency for 41 years, and another agency.

spending is under the discretionary side of the budget. every dime has to be accounted for. unlike homeland security, which includes the coast guard. some people think the coast guard's military. it is not. any time you spend money or give money or give something away, it has to go through so many levels of approval. it does not happen immediately. i am saying that for people who want to defend trump. i am not necessarily saying i am doing that. i am saying it is a complicated process that takes time. it is just not easy. hearsay and the whistleblower comment. here is the problem. this is an inquiry, a hearing. mind-reading is allowed, opinions are allowed. inferences are allowed without objection. that is the way it is. when it gets to the senate, takes on the atmosphere of a trial.

i am pretty sure, steve, you can correct me if i am wrong -- those kinds of things will not be allowed per die think that is what lindsey graham was alluding -- will not be allowed. i think that is what lindsey graham will be alluding to. i think his name was goldman, the council for the democrats? he started off questioning to taylor, and every time he mentioned the investigation into biden, he referenced it to trump's campaign. i don't ever remember that being said, but that was allowed, no problem. you heard people give opinions. that is ok. i don't care because that will get to the senate. i think that will change. as far as the whistleblower, here is the problem -- when it senate, that is just the way it is going to be. with regard to the military -- and you can look this up, and

you would get the impression that trump did support ukraine. , that is when the trouble started, taylor said that. the obama administration gave $91 million to ukraine. 2016 come here what happened. i have the timeline, $318 billion in 2019, $415 million in 2019. trump has given more than $4 billion under his administration. people got the administered -- people got the impression yesterday that he does not support them and that is not true. you can say things under oath. i got the important -- i got the opinion that kent and taylor did not support president trump. a question was asked by one democrat, do you consider yourself never trumpers?

they both said no. the problem with that question is you can say that and still not be a trump supporter. what i mean by that is that is not a movement. no, i do not support trump, but i am not part of a never trumper movement. i remember the trayvon martin thing, there was a lot of casual use of the n word. i said have you ever used the n word? daddyd my mommy and taught me never to talk like that. another guy said, wait a minute, you never answered the question. people can answer questions under oath that are deceptive but not a lie. see what i'm saying? host: thank you for the call. then goldman is a graduate of stanford university, the counsel to the -- the former deputy chief of staff to the organized crime unit in the office of u.s.

attorney for the southern district of new york. stick casper is the republican lawyer. you so i'm yesterday, earning his degree from dortch washington university -- you saw him yesterday, earning his degree from george washington university. counsel for the oversight committee. when asked change with george kent from the state department -- that's watch. -- let's watch. he has sort of given a speech , you know a little folksy about how he went into ukraine and he told ukrainians that if they do not fire the prosecutor they are going to lose their $1 billion in loan guarantees you have seen that, correct? >> i have. i think was a speech on the council of foreign relations in 2018. >> he also said he had been to ukraine 13 times. do you know if that is accurate? knowledge,est of my when he was vice president, he

made six visits. maked the state department -- express any concern about the vice president's role going to issues?being any >> no, it was to help us pursue our policy agenda. role on hunter biden's the board of directors, you testified that you expressed some concerns to the vice president sub office, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> what did they do about that concern? >> i have no idea. i reported my concern to the office of the vice president. >> that was the end of it? >> sir, you would have to ask people who worked in the office of the vice president after 2015. >> it after you expressed concern about a perceived conflict of interest at least, the vice president's engagement in ukraine did not decrease, did it? >> correct because the vice president was emoting u.s. policy objectives that's was -- was promoting was policy

objectives in ukraine. there was was that the possibility of a perception of a conflict of interest. host: republican counsel steve casper to george kent. since that continues to come up, the event that we covered for the c-span network, here's former vice president joe biden discussing ukraine and what he did. >> i am desperately concerned about the backsliding on the -- in terms of corruption. i will give you one concrete example. i was -- not i, that was the assignment i got. i got all the good ones. so i got ukraine. i remember going over and convincing our team that we should be revising for loan guarantees. 12th, over i guess the

13th time, and i was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee. i had gotten the commitment from takehenko that they would action against the state prosecutor and they did not. so they walked out and i said i am not going to give you the billion dollars. they said, you have no authority, you are not the president. i said call him. i said you are not getting the billion dollars. i said you're not getting the billion, i will be leaving here. i said i am leaving in six hours. if the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. well, son of a bitch, he got fired. and the someone in place who was solid at the time. genuine,ade some substantial changes institutionally and with people. but one of the three institutions, there is now some

backsliding. former,at is from getting a lot of attention. that is in the video library at c-span.org. thehill.com. "the senate trial must expose the whistleblower. graham telling fox news that a senate trial needs to expose the whistleblower so the president can confront his accuser, and i will not accept a trial in the senate until i know who the whistleblower is." i want to share with you some key points from the republican memo on the hearings that are taking place in the house in the upcoming senate trial if it happens. it is expected early next year. first of all, the july 25 call y shows no pressure that the president and the president of ukraine, both have said there was no pressure on the call, that the president of ukraine was no cash was not in and where

-- that the president of your not underas pressure. phone calls, john and district heights, maryland. good morning, democrats line. caller: good morning and thank you p give me a minute, please. i was really impressed with the ambassador and mr. kent. but the ambassador being fifth in his class at west point, that was really amazing. to see him sit there yesterday and go through that whatever you want to call it, i mean when jim jordan -- somebody else said this was a terrible day for america. this is a good day for america because the rest of the world can see our democratic system is trying to work. it is not perfect, but it is the best thing on this planet right now. for other nations -- i am looking at the news every afternoon. the south american nations are going through all kinds of turmoil with presidencies, and

the dictators and how they are trying to rule the countries. here, i do not watch football, basketball. i don't watch any sports at all. was since president trump elected, i have been keeping my eye on the sky. i am from queens, new york. i heard about president trump a long time ago with the five black men who were put in jail for raping a white woman, and he was wrong. man came into office, he was a liar and a thief from the beginning. all people have to do is go back and look at the lies he has told. his university robbed people. this man made $20 million since he came into office. trump has a very good strategy on the republican senators. he goes to the southern states, holds those rallies where the republicans who would have to stand against him will not do that because of fear of their

own positions in the senate. so therefore when he goes to those rallies, he is stacking them for his own benefit host: thanks for the call. tonight,dent campaigning for the republican nominee for governor, the runoff in louisiana gets underway saturday morning. a live coverage for that rally, also on c-span radio. froma is joining us mechanicsville, maryland. republican line. good morning. -- marcus is joining us from mechanicsville, maryland. the public in line. good morning. caller: good morning. i have been a political science major from the university of maryland, also a 23-year retired navy chief. common sense dictates -- and the american people are watching very closely. we have been watching since the inauguration. we have been watching since prior to the inauguration, and there seems to be this pattern

with the russia collusion, with brett kavanaugh, and now with ukrainianw with this deal. something comes to mind -- you know, if this thing actually makes it into the senate, the senators are going to be able to -660,the same rules as hb and they will be the ones controlling how the rest of this circus rolls out. host: to that point, daily caller has this headline -- "we asked every gop senator about impeachment. seven ruled it out." senatorsublican refused to rule out removing president trump from office. the caller contacting all 53 senate offices on monday and tuesday to ask if the senators would rule out voting to remove the president from office,

received a variety of responses. seven senators explicitly rejected impeachment. , heror cindy hyde-smith office said the senator does not support impeachment. her office was reached out to on tuesday to ask if her opinion was changed after the testimony of the office responded, no change. then senator thom tillis from north carolina, his office also rejected impeachment, saying he has reviewed the transcript and the complaint and strongly believes there is zero basis to even entertain the impeachment of a president. there are currently 228 democrats who support impeachment or an impeachment inquiry in the house of representatives." more details at dailycaller.com peerage john mcardle with more details on this tuesday. john: or non-impeachment inquiry news but a topic we have been --

more non-impeachment inquiry news but a topic we have been chatting about at "the washington journal," and that his leadership at the department of homeland security. that agency under new leadership . chad wolfe's warning yesterday as the acting secretary of homeland security. there is "the washington times" story on your screen. john will takes over from kevin mcaleenan, whose resignation as acting sarah terry -- secretary is finalized. "the washington times" noting that senators voted yesterday 54-41 make him undersecretary at homeland security, but with with kevinng -- but mcaleenan's departure, the vote was seen as a proxy for his ascension to lead the agency, confirming he was sworn in as the acting sarah terry -- acting secretary. by yesterday evening, ken

cuccinelli, the director at the u.s. citizenship and immigration services, had also been named deputy secretary at dhs, rounding out the leadership board there at the agency. "the washington times" story noting that the democrats were enraged by both stories. yesterday democratic senator bob menendez of new jersey saying the confirmation of chad wolf is the latest example of how the trump administration, with the help of senate republicans, is bypassing our constitutional duty to advise and consent in key nominations like the heading of the department of homeland security. this from steny hoyer -- the majority leader in the house -- a troubling record at dhs, including working to implement trump's family separation policy. i am distant -- i am deeply disappointed by his confirmation to lead the agency and will work with my colleagues to hold him and the administration

accountable for pursuing an anti-immigrant agenda. don beyer from virginia, opposite sides of the aisle. don beyer writing, "cuccinelli was too extreme for virginia, which rejected him, and he has done a terrible job at uscis, so it is natural that trump would promote him. his awful policies have been so discriminatory that even native republic -- even senate republicans oppose confirming him. ken cuccinelli saying he is thankful to the president for placing his trust in him to serve the american people. i am honored to continue serving as acting secretary. your phone calls. vanessa in washington, d.c., democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. i watched the hearings yesterday and i was impressed by how prepared these democrats were. what i find interesting is how the goalpost keeps moving for

the republicans put a that includes the republican congressmen as well as their supporters. one minute they call it perfect, then they say it was not perfect. then they find out there was quid pro quo, but it did not go through, so it is all ok. i am just amazed at how uneducated the electorate really is. when are we going to finally realize that the man is a con man. you for thea, thank call in washington. thanks for listening on c-span radio. an opinion piece available online at nytimes.com. "the evidence of wrongdoing by trump is overwhelming." he writes the following, " impeachment is a constitutional procedure that should be observed for only a strawberry times with the most extreme examples of abuse of power by -- only extraordinary times with extreme dream --

examples of abuse of power by the president. the evidence is overwhelming. the impeachment inquiry has been conducted so far in a sober, responsible way. as yesterday's hearings made clear, the witnesses are credible and clear and the story they tell is alarming. all members of congress are not compelled to listen to the witnesses and independently determine whether the president's conduct warrants impeachment." on the republican line, lisa is next. from florida, good morning. caller: i am a lifetime republican. hi. i am calling because the republicans absolutely need to take this serious. , as is what has gone on great civics lesson for the americans. that hean wanted to out is one of the best witnesses? no, there are a lot more witnesses but trump keeps blocking them.

let them all testify. that is my side point. the republicans need to take this dead serious. this is a very serious issue. it has been going on three years back to russia. mother gave them the report that congress could have taken obstruction -- mueller gave them the report that commerce could have taken obstruction to impeachment, but it was too complex. this is easy. let everybody testify. host: lisa, thanks for the call from key west, florida. was asked toitch leave her position as ambassador to ukraine before scheduled time. her testimony is tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern time, replaced by bill taylor, who testified yesterday. one of the exchanges is a conversation between the e.u. ambassador, the supporter of president trump, gordon sondland, and ambassador taylor. and this question by daniel goldman, the democratic council with the house intelligence committee. >> did you come to understand

that ambassador songland had a direct line of communication with president trump? >> i did. >> and you testified in that text message that ambassador sondland wrote him to testify. what did he say to you? >> he said i was wrong about president trump's intent, that there was no quid pro quo. did he say anything after that? did he describe to you -- i believe you said, i will refresh your memory -- you mentioned in your opening statement that he said that everything, and you had that in quotes, was actually contingent on the initiation of these investigations. what did he mean by "everything"? >> mr. goldman, what he meant by

everything was his security assistance and the white house meeting. testified that he said he made a mistake in relaying a message to the ukrainians. what was that mistake? >> the mistake he told me was earlier he had told, presumably that whatzelinski, was necessary for the white pursuit ofng was the these investigations. he said he recognized that that was a mistake. it was not just a white house meeting that was dependent on the investigation. he said it was now everything, including the security assistance. just a white house meeting, it was also the security assistants. >> yes, sir.

>> even though trump said there repeatedly,pro quo, the white house meeting and the security assistants were conditioned on these investigations. is that your understanding? >> that is my understanding. host: daniel goldman with liam taylor yesterday. another opinion piece, this from "the wall street journal." "the banality of impeachment." "in a healthier political culture, democrats would be using the ukraine episode as an argument against mr. trump's election. instead, democrats have pulled out the constitutional bazooka of impeachment. they are doing so in a partisan fashion, contrary to the earlier pledges, and in a political rush to beat the 2020 political calendar. the evidence and the process to date, they are turning impeachment into a routine political weapon.

presidents of both parties will regret it michael in brooklyn, new york. good morning. -- will regret it." michael in brooklyn, new york. good morning. caller: the testimony was really revealing. the republican congressman pointed out that -- what makes us look bad is that president trump has not asked for an investigation into joe biden -- joe biden entered the race, that is when he decides to withhold aid, congressional aide that was given to republicans -- by republican senate and the democratic congress of the house, and he withheld this money for an investigation. now, this is bribery and extortion, which is technically a crime and a misdemeanor, and it is impeachable by the

constitution. ambassador taylor, he tried to protect us in the u.s. and -- in the usa by having -- the administration did not release the eight until there was a complaint filed with the ig. who came up with this plan, whether it was bannon or giuliani to sabotage trump, but it is just terrible what has happened to our country and our president. i know the economy is a bubble economy and we are doing well, but this conduct cannot stand. something needs to be done. host: a moment ago, the president tweeting on the economy. we will show that to you in a moment. a photograph from inside the washington post, a look inside the hearing room on the house side of the capitol. the hearing will continue tomorrow from minnesota -- the

hearing will continue tomorrow. from minnesota, carol on the democrats line. caller: good, steve, and good morning, america. what troubles me the most is you would think everybody in this country could just come together and want to know the truth. get to the truth, we need to use the facts. here are some of the facts. we have a personal phone call, foreign aid that was withheld. we have a meeting between the president that was -- between the presidents that was withheld . we have trump refusing to let his thugs testify. we have trump refusing to get up kent's letter, which was his concern. and we have trump refusing to give up taylor's meticulous notes. so until we get to the facts, we cannot get to the truth. my headline would be, "lock him up." with theot of people

headlines, so keep them coming. this tweet from the president a moment ago -- "a new stock market again yesterday, the 20th time this year with great potential for the future. usa is where the action is companies and jobs are coming back like never before." that is the president at 8:40 four eastern time. we are live with john mcardle. good morning. john: a reminder to viewers that we are one week away from a potential government shutdown if congress does not do something about that. the current continuing resolution set to run out next thursday. some news on that front, this from tuesday, the capitol hill producer, craig caplan, a great follow on twitter if you want to keep up with congress. he notes this morning that the house and senate plan next week to take up another short-term continuing resolution extending funding past november 21 through december 20 two avoid the government shutdown.

novemberr 21 through -- november 21 through december 22 to avoid the government shutdown. an nbc news tweet noting that senator schumer and leadership have agreed to that continuing resolution, but it will be up to the president to sign it. and some members of congress noting that they are not necessarily pleased with the idea of another continuing resolution. rick scott on twitter noting that after today's hearing, democrats need to take a hit and instead of playing politics and chasing their him peach meant -- there impeachment obsession, they need to do their jobs and avoid another shutdown. america's families need america to do its job. the ranking member of the house armed services committee, mac thornberry, viewers know him well. his op-ed, under every day under

-- he knows that a continuous resolution damages the military and undermines a recent gradual progress of rebuilding it. if congress on the white house do not change, in deeply concerned the pentagon will find itself under a continuing resolution for a full year. mac thornberry going on to say that the brave women who risk their lives and serve their country deserve better than that. if you want to read mac thornberry's column today. host: you can follow us on twitter, on c-span peerage john mcardle, where can they follow you? on twitter? john: @mcardle. thank you. host: washington, you're next. good morning. caller: how are you this morning? host: you have to explain your name first of all. at any rate, i told my

wife, somebody was trying to sabotage mr. trump, and i told her i thought it was giuliani, and i still do. and now it is starting to really look like it. but my main question is, if all -- democrats are looking trying to get this to pass against trump, how many republicans does it take to get him impeached? host: thank you for the call. we will go to market, fort lauderdale, independent line. good morning. caller: yes, good morning. thanks as always for c-span. fantastic.rum is i think a really interesting show for you guys to consider -- and we will get to my headline about this -- maybe have a roundtable among the hosts, and how you feel about having to deal with and listen to and sit through some of the stuff that you have to do.

along those lines, you had a call earlier that really was distressing to me, and it looked like it might have been distressing to you, where some guy was ranting and raving about how c-span is no longer fair and goes after republicans and does not treat them right. then of course, a few moments later a guy from alabama called and on the republican line and went on and on and on making no sense, but you let him go and never interrupted him. his main point for why you cannot impeach trump over this was the fact that there has been more foreign aid to ukraine presidentp became than prior. that just shows, i hope, to the public and the people listening to this, even though i do not like a lot of the stuff that gets said, and i understand that you guys are doing your best to be fair. host: this is an example because

i have been following the social media feed as well. people think we have an agenda because we read the new -- new new york times, and then the wall street journal, and now what we are simply trying to do is to share with the audience what is being written about the stories of the day, in this case. the impeachment is the big story in washington. we are trying to get reaction from all different fronts. we thank you for adding your voice. caller: ok, if i could please, having said that, i agree with you and i envy you and pity here, but you must have a lot of interesting things going on. and a lot of people between you and some of the other hosts talking about your experiences. the main thing i want to say about the hearing, and about the impeachment, is one of the main statements, topics, repetitively stated by republicans, the democrats have been trying to

get trump from the moment he was elected. but there is a reason for that. that's right, that's true. the reason being is that trump was corrupt before herein for president. it comes out all the time in the news -- was corrupt before he ran for president. his time in the oval office has been corrupt from the first day, so of course you have to fight. what do you want to do, have people sit there while the president runs wild? host: we are approaching the 9:00 hour, and the start of the third hour of "the washington journal." we have been hearing from you, getting reaction from your tweets, your phone calls, and your text messages. also how the story is playing out in the leading newspapers and editorial pages we will continue in the next hour. the house is gaveling in at 10:00 eastern time. the hearing will continue tomorrow with marie yovanovitch, beginning at 10:00 eastern time.

, c-spanerage on c-span2 radio, and the c-span radio app. magazine," let me show you what tom meacham is writing. "the only way to make sense of this internal struggle is to understand that it is just that, an internal struggle. we are grappling with a new chapter in the struggle, one that includes the salience of the constitution, the sovereignty of our elections, and the possible impeachment of a president. at the constitutional convention, george mason asked, "shall any man be above justice? that man behall able to commit the most -- the most extensive injustice?" the answer was no. we will determine that, we the people. james bryce included a chapter

titled, why great men are not chosen president. he was writing in an unremarkable era of the presidency, the age of hayes, garfield, harrison. the ensuing century gave us roosevelt, truman, eisenhower and reagan. we the people rose to the occasion and make good and important decisions. now we face the test anew." that's the cover story of time magazine. it's available this morning at time.com. cecelia is joining us on the democrats line from illinois. good morning. caller: good morning, steve. i love the john meacham excerpt you just did. thank you for that. something thing to like out of the godfather to me. just starting from reading the that call -- i need

you to do me a favor -- that's the thing that starts the extortion. then withholding the military used tohe gun basically cause duress to the ukraine. then he piles it on by saying there will not be a presidential meeting and this other stuff. it is no different from some mafioso saying, well, i want to offer you protection so pay me this kind of money. then you are building or your house will not get burned down. when they don't they start a little fire. then they are meeting the mafia's request. host: a lot of attention on gordon sondland.

a full week of hearings to be live on the c-span networks. the president spending yesterday with turkish president erdogan. the meeting yielding little progress. this question from john roberts of the fox news channel. [video] >> you spent a lot of time with the tv today, but bill taylor recounted a conversation that a native his overhead the day after the phone call with zelensky on july 26 where he said he heard you say how are things going with the proceedings, with the investigations. back thatepeated ukraine was repaired to do everything you wanted him to do. is that correct? president trump: that is the first time i have heard it. he did speak to me for a brief moment and i said no quid pro

quo under any circumstances. the other, i have never heard this. this is more secondhand information but i have never heard it. i don't recall. not even a little bit. the only thing -- i guess sondland said in his testimony there was no quid pro quo. peer and simple. -- pure and simple. host: the president during it news conference with the turkish president. he is departing today for louisiana for a rally we are covering live. foxnews.com. putting pressure on moderate democrats. a team of reporters writing the following. "all eyes were on moderate house democrats in swing districts after the first day of public hearings in the impeachment inquiry against the president wrapping up with no major revelations, and also highlighting weaknesses and key

witnesses who rely primarily on second information and never once interacted with the president. the house is now comprised of 431 numbers. 217 democrats. there are currently 233 democrats so they can only lose 16 of the own and still impeach the president. 31 represent more moderate districts the president carried in 2016." greer from fallon, illinois. republican line. caller: good morning. the backyard of scott's air force base. a lot of young men and women that defend our freedoms. ironically, what you just played was the president discussing sondland saying sondland was speaking to his testimony. it is sad. i have never been sadder regarding my party.

that was a lie. everyone knows sondland corrected the record. a lot of people call and thank you for c-span. i'm thankful for c-span, but this needs more than a microphone holder. we need someone deciding who called balls and strikes from both parties and real-time. that would correct some of the nonsense you hear people calling in with. it is utterly ridiculous. the guy besmirching my party's reputation, it can't resolve him or the situation for him. allowing pompeo and mulvaney to go testify. it is utterly ridiculous. shame what is going on.

obama, who i did not give a chance to, but in 1600 pennsylvania avenue makes obama look like george washington. host: "ambassador taylor's opening statement was a recitation of facts. only the insane with see it any other way." [video] mylast friday, a member of staff told me about events that occurred on july 26. while the ambassador volker and i visited the front, my staff accompanied ambassador sondland. ambassador sondland met with mr. -- in the presence of my staff in a restaurant, ambassador sondland called president and told him of his meetings in kiev. a member of my staff to hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador song lent about the --ambassador sondland

about the investigations. he told president trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward. following the call with president trump, a member of my staff asked invested or sondland -- ambassador sondland what president trump thought about ukraine. he thought he cared more about the investigation into the bidens. on october 22, i was not aware of this information. i'm including it here. i reported this information through counsel to the state department legal advisor, as well as the counsel for both the majority and minority of this committee. it is my understanding the committee is following up on this matter. host: that was some of the news that came from yesterday's hearing. here is how it is playing out in the washington newspapers. the washington times, a game of telephone with another instance of hearsay. the washington post, the testimony putting the president

closer to the scandal. tell us what you think. (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. independents at (202) 748-8002. we are taking your text messages. please tell us your first name and where you are texting from. (202) 748-8003. tim is joining us from arkansas, independent line. caller: good morning, steve. i appreciate c-span. you guys have all the video records. you should have investigative reporters going back and getting step-by-step. remember the call, remember the transcript. he asked him to investigate crowd strike. remember crowd strike? that said the dnc server was hacked. wait a minute. we don't really know that because he never turned over the dnc server to the feds. that is the investigation that

now the democrats are trying to hide, trying to keep you from seeing. a little sleight-of-hand. now we have shifty eyed schiff and his clown show with secondhand, thirdhand, fourth and information from people who were not elected. these bureaucrats, if they did not like what was going on could have left. could have quit. president trump, the office of the president, he was elected. 63 million people elected him to do this job. if there is corruption, you don't give them the money. they needed to investigate corruption, whether it is crowd strike corruption, interfering with the 2016 election corruption, or if biden and his son were corrupted and they need to investigate that. you can't give biden a pass because he is running for president. that is why he is running for president, so he can have that and have them say no, don't investigate me. it just doesn't work.

he does not get a pass. is the real russian interference is this russian-style inquiry. expects the one shifty inquisition but that is what we get. they are working on nothing. nothing is getting passed. no daca, no immigration, no usmca. we can't even fund the government because we have to look at this. it is more important. their power is more important, their search for power. even if they don't get him impeached they have this stain. the stain of this inquiry. that is all they really want. the dog and pony show to keep you from looking at what is really going on, looking at the rest. i called in two years ago and told you the mueller report was there to hide the crimes of hillary. guess what. they did a good job. host: if it going to write a

headline from yesterday's hearing, what with the headline be? caller: the circus is in town. host: there are a lot of questions about hunter biden and joe biden. if they are forced to testify, should mike pompeo or even the president testify because they were on that call? caller: to testify to what? job?unter biden got eight -- a job? host: do you think mike pompeo or the president should also testify about the details of their phone call? caller: the transcript is there. what other details do you need? you have the transcript. host: thank you for that call. on the democrats line from tennessee. caller: how are you doing? host: how are you, sir? caller: not too bad. i want to say that trump is a complete joke in my eyes.

i am having trouble seeing the what joee between biden and the democrats did back in 2015 to cover up the investigation on crowd strike, and what trump did is any different. it seems like everybody is taking crazing pills and they are jumping on sides. i don't get this. host: thank you for that call. john mcardle keeping track. the house is back in session in about 45 minutes. >> i want to follow-up on what you pointed out when you talked about the number needed for impeachment. it is 217 votes. that is because there are 431 current members of the house. that is because there are four current vacancies in the house. the clerk of the house, the new website launched showing the

vacancies in the house. they include the late elijah cummings, maryland seventh district. sean duffy and chris collins, republicans he resigned earlier this year. at the top of the list is katie hill, democrat from california, the 25th district. she recently resigned her seat in the house. some news on that seat and the eventual race to fill the seat. this is from the hill newspaper this morning. founder filed yesterday to run for the house seat vacated by katie hill. an fec filing announces the uyger listed ase the treasurer. he aligns himself with the progressive wing of the democratic party and in 2016 endorsed bernie sanders for democratic presidential primary. he endorsed sanders again for the 2020 primary.

uyger with a couple of tweets. this from yesterday. "to all reporters, no comment." this was his tweet from earlier today, his reaction to the headlines stemming from yesterday's impeachment inquiry hearing. ofs is the trumpification the media. amning witness gives d testimony but the media complains it was not entertaining enough. what it be better if he threatened to pile drive someone? host: back to your phone calls. darren from port st. lucie, florida. caller: good morning. i want to give a shout out to to my friend in fallon, illinois. i played soccer there. -- i was watching adam schiff.

i was like, really? you have nothing. really? come on, man. we need to unite this country. it is a big country. we are all united. i just think we need to get together. i am out shaking hands on veterans day with so many veterans. we are all shaking hands and kissing babies and operate. we are working for our country. we need to pass the military bill, get the usmca passed and move forward. you were coming up with nothing. if you really want to do something, go through hillary clinton's 30,000 emails. where i live in south florida it .s amazing to see the unity you can't believe how great it is just to be where i live.

i grew up in southern illinois. my family was big farmers. a shout out to the lady in minnesota. a shout out to the person in fallon, illinois. host: thanks to that call. this is inside the washington post, a telegraph of the key leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell. a lengthy trial could hinder senators running for president. here are some of the details on the washington post. some republican senators and advisors are privately discussing whether to pressure gop leaders to stay a lengthy impeachment trial beginning in january, potentially keeping six contenders in washington until the eve of the iowa caucuses were longer. the conversations remain fluid. that's according to more than a dozen participants in the discussion. the deliberations come as the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell faces pressure from conservative activists to swap

back as democrats -- impeachment hearings began in the house. foraised a potential hazard the six democratic senators running for president who had previously planned on the final sprint to washington before the iowa caucuses on february 3 and the new hampshire primary on february 11. there is an emergent divide among republicans over the timing. some republicans favor a lengthy trial as a means of defending president trump in creating problems for democrats. others are calling for a swift dismissal. templatecconnell's remains the trial of bill clinton in early 1999, which lasted five weeks and had bipartisan consensus at the start about how it would proceed. the story is available at washingtonpost.com. florida, christopher, good morning. caller: i thought a headline

would be good. ok. thomas jefferson, right? what did he do? he had the louisiana purchase. isn't that illegal? shouldn't he have been impeached for that? to bring it to a more current president, barack obama. something he did i agree with. he assassinated a u.s. citizen. that is illegal as far as i know. ist i'm trying to say here there was a gentle and that called that said he stopped watching sports. please go back to watching sports, dude. this is not a team sport. we are all together here. i considerng on now, it lunacy to be quite honest with you.

they are not using their heads. we have a president. we have a way to relieve him of his position if need be. i think that it's really the direction we should go with it. host: thank you for that call. from the washington post, witnesses to corruption. calling the u.s. diplomats convincingly nonpartisan. from baltimore, democrats line, brenda. caller: how are you? i watched yesterday and i want witnesses for telling the truth. truthes a lot to tell the sometimes in this pressurized world. toant to say that republicans who called who had an open mind and said we just have to listen. channel forr your

staying neutral and bringing facts on both sides. did not have the media, what would happen in hitler's time. no one would have found out what he was doing, killing people. -- i want tonk talk about the -- put yourself in the place of the whistleblower. if your wife or loved one was afraid to go forward against their boss about something he was egregiously doing, but the husband said i will do it, that is secondhand. that does not make it any less correct. please stop using those things, secondhand information can be true. jim jordan used that to hurt us. lastly, steve, there is a saying.

gain if you gain the whole world and lose your soul? you have to sleep with yourself at night. i am appealing to the republicans and the independents, people that support donald trump. look at both sides of the ledger. minute,cale says wait a he's doing more wrong than right, you know, let's look on the right side of the ledger. he's gotten the judges. -- he is trying to go after immigration. look at the things he has done. unscrupulous people do stuff, but on the other side of the theer, he has vilified hispanics. he said they were rapists and murderers. he came back and tried to change it. he wanted the muslim ban but he had to change it. he told the athletes sons of

bitches. he has done so many wrong things. i watched fox one day to see what they say. oh, a cause to cortez hates -cortez hatesasio america. host: congressman adam schiff insisting he does not know the identity. that was part of a tense exchange yesterday. we carried it live. here is what happened. [video] >> we will not permit the outing of the whistleblower and questions along those lines we will inform the clients not to respond. otherwise i want members to feel to ask any questions they like. >> i would like to make a motion, mr. chairman. [talking over each other] >> the gentleman is not recognized.

i am responding to the gentlewoman's point of order. otherwise they can ask any question they like. you seek recognition for what purpose? >> to make a motion we subpoena the whistleblower for a closed-door deposition so the questions may be asked. i would prefer rather than to be your single decision that the committee speak to that issue rather than just the chairman. it will not be my single decision. we will entertain a motion to subpoena any witness, but after the witnesses have had an opportunity to testify. the motion will be in order. that will be suspended until after the witnesses testified. >> d went to zip we would vote? -- do you anticipate when we might vote on the ability to have the whistleblower in front of us? the only member

who knows the individual is. your staff is the only staff of any member of congress who had a chance to talk with the individual. when might that happen in this proceeding today? >> that is the gentleman knows, that is a false statement. i am determined to make sure the identity is protected. as i said to mr. conaway, you have an opportunity after the witness has testified to make a motion to subpoena any witness and call a vote. host: that is from the house intelligence committee. the exchange with jim jordan and adam schiff. another related headline, senator lindsey graham appearing on fox news with sean hannity saying "i will not accept a trial in the senate until i know who the whistleblower is." ehill.com.ls at th john: you have been talking about headlines all morning. more headlines to come. more witnesses to come in the

open impeachment inquiry. tomorrow the members of the intelligence committee are back before the cameras with marie yovanovitch, the former ambassador to ukraine. that begins at 9:00 a.m. you can watch it on c-span2, c-span.org, or listen on the free c-span radio app. we will run to the schedule next week. it is a packed one. tuesday morning, jennifer williams, an aide to vice president pence testify alongside national security council aide alexander vindman. he testified he was on that july 25 call between president trump and president zelensky. willesday, kurt volker testify alongside tim morrison, a national security council aid. on wednesday, the u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland will testify in the morning.

in the afternoon, were cooper and david hale. assistant secretary of defense. david hale, undersecretary of state for political affairs. it wraps up next week in the open hearings with fiona hill, former white house russia expert. three of those individuals we just named were on the republican witness list request. five other witness requests made by republicans were not granted by adam schiff and the democrats on the intelligence committee. david hill, tim morrison and david volker for on the original witness request list. those who were not granted, debbie archer, hunter biden's business partner. republicans wanted hunter biden as well to testify. a.exander chalup r, aell as nellie oh

researcher at fusion gps. republicans also wanted to hear from the anonymous whistleblower, and the whistleblower's sources. in his letter back to republicans on the committee in response to this request, adam schiff said the committee accepted all the minority requests within the scope of the impeachment inquiry. host: with regard to the schedule, those who may not be able to watch it, you can listen to it on the free c-span radio app or on your mobile device. it's available online at c-span.org. -- the unsolicited c-span app is where it is at. it does give you a lot of information. we hope you check it out. washington post, joe davidson. the state department facing its biggest crisis since the mccarthy era. from the style section of the

washington post, trigger warning. our political future. juniortrump promoting his new book. this on jim jordan. bs port sport and put on a jacket. -- be a sport and put on a jacket. during committee hearings he is the only one without a suit or blazer. back to your phone calls. eleanor is next on the republican line. caller: good morning. how are you this morning? host: we are fine. caller: a couple of things i want to rehash this morning. i was watching c-span yesterday. because i started my country for years before i retired. -- to see the kind of representation by republicans, it breaks my heart.

peoplet saying these need to try to unify this country instead of dividing us. everything's been done for the ,ake of president donald trump sooner or later he will be out of office. cane that protected him also be voted in and out of office. it is all about the people. these are the allies we are supposed to be working with. we fought side-by-side and died with them. now donald trump, who never served in the army, has no respect for anybody. he is turning his back on them. thank you for the call. martin in wilmington, delaware on the independent line. caller: good morning.

host: you are on the air. good morning. caller: from watching the testimony yesterday, the biggest bombshell was the day after a phone call when the transcript was public he released with the president asking about investigations, he asked about a follow-up on the investigations from the applicable ambassador who met with the ukrainian government. same day we had independent media reporting on locations of camps the chinese using the harvest organs from religious minorities in the country, which is the closest you will get to the modern-day nazis that killed 6 million of my people. the fact that government is trapped in this kind of palace intrigue over political insiders is in a very spent and disgraced. host: thank you for that call. the testimony putting the president closer to the scandal. another half-hour of your calls, comments and reaction. the house of representatives is in at 10:00.

live coverage tomorrow on c-span2 of day 2 of the house inquiry with former ukrainian abbasid or marie yovanovitch. -- ambassador marie yovanovitch. we welcome our listeners on c-span radio. todd from college park, maryland. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to say in rotc we talked about we would not lie, cheat or steal and not tolerate those amongst who do. president trump lies every day. -- we areting people putting people in prisons for cheating what he's trying to cheat on a presidential election. he has stolen from his former employees, his business associates and taxpayers in the state of new york. the federal government. this is a tragedy. the example he is setting for the whole world to see. host: we will go to mark in

omaha, nebraska on the republican line. caller: good morning at thank you for taking my call. there is an important point i think taylor and kent made yesterday i was not aware of. i have not heard any honest talk about it. beingats talk about aid delayed and people are dying because of it. it was delayed for five weeks. they came out yesterday when asked about trump giving aid in 2016, 2018, the military aid takes a year to get there. what they are spending now on bullets and guns. the stuff that was approved, they will not get it until next year. it takes about a year for it to go through everything. hat voids all the democrats' things that people were dying fighting for us to stop russia from ukraine.

it totally blew that argument away. i thought jim jordan rocked. there. glad he was on he is a common man. he's a great advocate and i do what to say i am not sure about joe biden on his corruption. his son hunter is corrupt. trump talks about investigating the 2016 election and other corruptions, there is nothing more corrupt than what is going on with hunter biden. host: scott in upstate, new york. independent line. caller: good morning. i'm a true human party. god bless all us humans. said trump was going to beat hillary in 2016. i kept hearing them talk about not lying donald

trump, the congress approved the aid. the last four years of the obama administration, who ran the house and senate? that is why they were getting military aid. last year i think it was the house was taken over by the democrats. somewhere along that line is when congress, the senate, the house, and the president is not almighty. we have three separate units of this government. trump thatpresident gave this a. it was congress. it was a democratic house that pushed it through. guy talking about wearing a jacket and all these other things, i thought the

democrats, when they were pulling their shenanigans at the they kind of looked bad. these republicans are looking like childish kids. god bless america, god bless humans. our day is coming. talk to you soon. have a wonderful day. i hope some of the picked up on this. it was congress and not trump that gave the aid. host: victor with this tweet. i believe the impeachment hearings are a great civic lesson, not only for americans for many across the planet. you need to hold people to account, even if it is a president or a prime minister. with more the president, john? john: his latest tweet from a few minutes ago, the president focusing on the economy as he has this morning in a previous tweet. walmart announces great numbers. no impact from the tariffs which

are contributing billions of dollars to our treasury. inflation low. do you hear that, jerome powell? that was the president from a few minutes ago. the president scheduled today, 2:00 p.m., to anticipate -- participate with the secretary-general of nato. later this afternoon he is heading to poser city, louisiana for a campaign -- bows city, city,ana --bossier louisiana. listen to it on the free c-span radio app. race taking runoff place this weekend. the story on that from politico. republicans worrying about that race. louisiana'sinto governor's amid signs of trouble. the party spending $1 million on turnout in the final days ahead of saturday's collections.

the phone call was the story, focusing on what it could mean for president trump. the story noting president trump with his rally tonight and republican rnc efforts in toisiana, it's an attempt take personal ownership of the contact, making his fourth trip to the state to boost republican candidate in that race. if they lose it, it comes with risk for president trump who is already seen control the house going in the opposite party in the 2018 midterms. roll call rights trump carried louisiana by 20 points. republicans could begin distancing themselves on the president as he battles and impeachment effort while seeking his own reelection. host: this tweet from phil glover. republicans are desperate. they are trying to trash longtime experts on foreign policy, calling commerce and jordan unhinged. congress been newness -- nunes

is out of his depths and trump should be impeached. the gop's ditch rudy strategy on impeachment. that whenlling impeachment survival strategy will be to try to distance the president from any ukraine quid pro quo, with rudy giuliani potentially going under the bus. they republican never telling axios this is not the impeachment of rudy giuliani or ambassador sondland. it's an impeachment of the president of the united states. more details at axios.com. out west from san diego, elizabeth. caller: good morning. i would like to say i was really proud of seeing the career diplomats yesterday. they were so dignified and they had such impeccable credentials. they were so credible compared who areepublicans

spouting alphabet soup of conspiracies. it sounded like gibberish. maybe they shouldn't watch fox news all day long. process,uck by how the the reason for these impeachment hearings because the president clearly went outside the scope of his powers. pelosiocrats, nancy house has tohe exert their powers to curtail him. if we did not have these impeachment trials, who knows what trump would come up with? he is up to his eyeballs in conflicts of interest and shenanigans. i want to also say frequently i hear a lot of republicans saying

the mueller investigation went nowhere. i want to remind people 12 russian troll farms were indicted and 13 russian former military officers were indicted. the influence of the russians in our past direction is a fact. i hope republicans can remind themselves of that. the other thing i wanted to mention was if the president is so innocent of these charges, let the people on the call testify? these career diplomats provided notes. host: appreciate the call. from wild and wonderful. he thinks the ambassadors take their marching orders straight from the president's mouth as opposed through the hierarchy. can people be this stupid?

the text message phone number is [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, --(202) 748-8003. follow us on twitter. billis from ambassador taylor and questions from the democratic counsel. [video] >> did you come to understand that ambassador sondland had a direct lender communication with president trump? >> i did. [video] >> you testified in the text message ambassador sondland says to call him after he wrote that. did you call him? >> i did. >> what did he say to you? -- i was wrong about president trump's intent. that there was no quid pro quo. >> but did he say anything after that? did he describe to you -- i will refresh your memory. that everything,

and you had that in quotes, was actually contingent on the initiation of these investigations. what did he mean by everything? >> what he meant by everything andyhe security assistance white house meet -- and the white house meeting. >> you also testified he made a mistake in relaying a message to the ukrainians. what was that mistake? >> the mistake he told me was presumablyhad told zelensky to linsky -- that what was necessary for the thee house meeting was pursuit of these investigations. he said he recognized that was a mistake. it was not just the white house meeting depended on the

investigations. he said it was now everything. and included the is security assistance. >> it was also the security assistance. >> yes, sir. >> even though president trump said repeatedly there is no quid pro quo, ambassador sondland relayed to you the facts of the matter where that the white house meeting and the security assistance were conditioned on the announcement of these investigations. is that your understanding? >> that is my understanding. host: daniel goldman and abbasid are taylor before the house republican committee -- the house intelligence committee. the times saying the best republican defense is a bad offense. the blustery journey says the banality of impeachment, the hearings are a pro forma march for a foregone conclusion. on the twitter page, hillary clinton uses a private server and the mill account to conduct her official government business.

the president uses a private cell phone to conduct his official business. this tweet from mary saying, that's a pretty picture of the outside of the white house. he would never note there was so otch brought inside -- r inside. caller: i have a quick comment. when the democrats were talking with taylor you can see the answers were clear and concise. when the republicans talked to him, he was always stuttering and looked dumbfounded. get a ticket to the circus on c-span for free. host: al from pomona, new york. caller: good morning. i wanted to say that donald impeached in the house of representatives. senate -- the senators that

are trying to protect him are only protecting their jobs. they are not worrying about the country. host: this is from audrey in tulsa, oklahoma. "i find it laughable that the republicans say they were to hear from the whistleblower which they claim is second with 30 and information and they discount the testimony from the gentleman in yesterday's hearing as secondhand information." another posted at cnn.com and at axios, president erdogan opens the white house meeting to play in anti-curd film on his ipad -- anti-kurd film on his ipad. it took a dark turn when he pulled at his ipad and meet the group watch a propaganda film depicting the kurds as terrorists. that's according to three sources familiar with the meeting. the beating hosted by the

president included five republican senators who have been the most vocal critics of turkey's invasion of syria and the attacks on the u.s. kurdish allies in the fight against isis. line.rnia city, democrats caller: i wanted to thank c-span for being there. host: you forgot about us? caller: you were not there when nixon was impeached. i watched it on television. i watch c-span once in a while but i don't watch it all the time. it is safer to watch you on this process than to talk to callers in person. i am glad you are there. yournk you for presentation of it. my headline would be the usa is engaging in group therapy. i think it's a really healing

process for our whole system. it allows us to see our government in action and to see the brilliance of a lot of people in the government. whatever happens in this process i personally am willing to accept whatever the outcome is. thank you for taking my call. host: i will turn back to john fundraising the numbers. john: there are some signs it is good for fundraising. christinetweet from of the l.a. times and roll call showing the trump-pants campaign posthearing campaign push. the trump campaign just hours after the impeachment hearings ended yesterday looking to raise some $3 million in the next 24 hours. that is what their goal was in their campaign announcement. more on the campaigns looking to capitalize on the first

impeachment hearing from the rollcall story. the national republican congressional committee is sending a fundraising email with the message, if you want to support president trump, now is the time to act. it noted the american action network, an advocacy group aligned with the house republican leadership announced a $2 million campaign on wednesday relating to impeachment. when it comes to the democratic side of the aisle, the former vice president biden syndicate pitch email yesterday with the subject line "impeachment hearing." biden has been pulled into the probe, asking his supporters to donate so they can help me defeat trump's lies and defeat him at the ballot box. more on that story at rollcall.com. host: michael in new york city. "it is amazing the same half of the country up in arms over a

private emo server now happily meddlingpen election to benefit himself into the detriment of our national security." what has become of us? with regard to the c-span coverage, the coverage you are seeing on all the networks is from the c-span cameras. the washington post, c-span goes big on the impeachment hearings. a look at our staff led by terry murphy and john kelly and kevin washburn, and our outstanding team of technicians, photographers, camera operators, sound people to make sure the coverage you are seeing is direct, straightforward. watching it live on the c-span networks, including at and listening to it on the free c-span radio app over c-span radio. you can watch it on nbc, cbs, abc, fox. you are watching coverage from c-span cameras. an incredible effort by our team here, putting in long hours to

make sure this moment in history is captured, straightforward and accordingly. bernie from alabama, republican line. caller: good morning. i would like to see a few words. is ahis thing is about shadow over trump so he will not be elected. that is all this whole thing is about. they know they can't impeach him. this is all about putting darkness over his campaign. thank you. host: this is a text message from oscar. it is up to the president to set foreign policy. while taylor was speaking about normal this an abnormal that, it meant nothing to me or to millions like me. steve is the republican counsel for the house intelligence committee with this line of questioning to george kent. [video] >> you have seen vice president biden. speech, a little

folksy about how he went into ukraine and told the ukrainians if, they don't fire the prosecutor they will lose $1 billion in loan guarantees. >> i think it was a speech of the council of foreign relations in january of 2018. [video] he said he has been to ukraine 13 times. is that accurate? >> to the best of my knowledge, when he was vice president he made six trips. >> did the state department expressed concerns about his role and time engaging on ukraine? president'svice role was critically important. it was to help us pursue our policy agenda. >> given hunter biden's role on the board of directors, you testified you expressed concerns to the vice president's office. >> that is correct. >> what did they do about that?

>> i have no idea. i reported my concern to the office of the vice president. >> was at the end of it? >> you have to ask the people who work at the office of the vice president in 2015. >> after you expressed concern about perceived conflict of interest, the vice president's in ukraine did not decrease? >> correct. he was promoted u.s. policy objectives in ukraine. >> hunter biden's role on the board of barisma did not cease? >> to the best of my knowledge it didn't. there was the possibility of a perception of a conflict of interest. host: george kent is the assistant deputy secretary of state. questions from the republican counsel steve castor. hannah from massachusetts on the democrats line. if you were to write a headline from the hearing, what would include? caller: wake up, america.

impeach, impeach, impeach. host: go ahead with your comment. caller: turn off fox news, take off your blinders, put on your listening ears. if you're not worried about the constitution and our government under trump, you are just not listening to the right people. what do you like so much about trump? d like his bankruptcies? do you like his three wives? his prostitutes? do you like his child is bullying and tweets? what about new york foundation banning him because of his corruption? host: elaine on the republican line. same question to you. go ahead with your comment. caller: get back to work. my comment would be, thank you c-span for allowing me to voice my opinion.

i would like to take this time to thank my president. a job well done. as far as his withholding the money to verify we were giving get to a corrupt government, that is a wise decision. thank you. host: cheryl from florida. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. my headline would be there are still some patriots working in the administration. i wanted to make a comment about the whistleblower and the republicans and the president's attempts to try to expose their identity. penceday, vice president stood at arlington and said to the people in the audience that anmp signed accountability act to protect anyone who reports abuse or

neglect within the v.a. and also they wanted to make sure their identity was protected in that case. i think that illustrates how he believestrump himself the rule of law does not apply to him in every instance. host: that speech is available on the c-span video library. we carried it live on veterans day. it's at c-span.org. john is keeping track of other news generated for some cable chatter this morning. john: we have talked about how the impeachment inquiry played in the meteri -- the media. msnbc turning heads when just minutes before the impeachment hearings began they interviewed a surprise guest, george conway iii, the husband of president trump's counselor kellyanne conway.

kellyanne conway responding today in an appearance on cnn, confronting wolf blitzer. here is a bit of that confrontation. [video] >> there was nothing new yesterday. you are calling it evidence. in a real court of law if we would not refer to something as evidence that is, oh, summit on my staff overheard a conversation between someone else on the president where they think they're the president use the word "investigation." this is not what due process and the rule of law allows. we can't have a lower standard for the president. >> let me play the clip. is it appropriate for the president task a foreign leader to investigate an american little nemesis and potential rival in a campaign? >> that is not with the president is asking. he was asking to investigate with the bidens were doing in

2016 or even before that. he never mentioned 2020. i have the transcript. i walk around with it. i will show it to you. host: the headline, kellyanne conway playing george conway's remarks, "i'm embarrassed for you." we sat with her in her office last week. the podcast will be available. don from st. thomas in the was virgin islands. caller: good morning. i would like to say i agree with much of the callers that say if trump is innocent, all he has to do is release all the records and let all the witnesses come and verify he is telling the truth. thatfore, he is not doing so you know something shady is going on. host: thank you for the call. caller: impeach, impeach,

impeach. host: "the impeachment is needed to show that no one is above the law. even if the senate will not remove him, the record will show the pursuit of justice is one of our great nation's duties." iris and alabama, good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to thank everyone at c-span. you do a great job. several -- i hate to sink this low. trump dennis the menace because everyone in every think he touches his havoc. he should be impeached. unlike the other lady that called, if there is nothing to hide, why are they trying so hard to hide something? call the witnesses. let go of the transcript. testify yourself. if he has nothing to hide, bring it out.

let's see it. if you knew about biden and his son years ago, why are we investigating it now? that is what i would like to know. why not years ago? that witness testified he brought it to vice president pence in 2015. why not then? if it was so corrupt and so bad, why are we waiting until the 2020 election to bring it out? host: we have about 30 seconds left. robert, we will give you the last call on the republican line but please keep it brief. are you with us from fort walton beach, florida? caller: yes, i am. why aren't we investigating the the $150 billion that went to iraq? host: your calls and comments.

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