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carol jenkins discusses efforts to ratify the equal rights amendment. and at 845 a.m., brandon judd from the immigration and border control to discuss the administration's approach to border ♪ host: in a network news interview last night, william barr was sharply critical of president trump's comments, tweets regarding the roger stone case, the prosecutors involved, and the judge as well. 2020.friday, february 14, we will show you some of that interview in a moment and ask in theut your confidence attorney general and do you agree or disagree of his criticism with president trump. here is how to call in. republicans use 202-748-8001. democrat, 202-748-8000. for independents, that line,
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202-748-8002. send us a text if you would like. sure you003 and make include your name and where you are texting from. on twitter, we are @cspanwj and our facebook page is facebook.com/cspan. just a quick recap on the roger stone case, he was convicted of a number of federal crimes including lying to congress scheduled to be sentenced next thursday. the prosecutors involved in that earlier this week made sentencing recommendations to the judge in the case and shortly they act -- thereafter, the justice department revised downward those recommendations. president trump was critical of prosecutors earlier in the week about sentencing guidelines and then the reduction in sentencing recommendations came out and the prosecutors resigned late
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tuesday and president trump continued to criticize the case including the judge involved via twitter. the interview was done yesterday by pierre thomas, the chief justice correspondent for abc news and this is the front of their wet pipe -- their website. abcnews.go.it on com. william barr said the president is making his job harder. [video clip] >> i made a decision i thought was fair and reasonable in this case and when the tweet occurred, the question is now what do i do? do you go forward with what you think is the right decision or pullback because of the tweet and that illustrates how disruptive they can be. >> you are saying you have a problem with the tweets. ofi have a problem with some
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the tweets. to have public statements and tweets made about the department , about people in the department, our men and women about cases pending in the department, and judges about whom we have cases make it impossible for me to do my job to assure the courts and the prosecutors and the department that we are doing our work with integrity. host: we are going to show you several more pieces from that interview from abc last night in a bit. the white house commented -- stephanie grisham, "the president was not bothered by the comments at all and has the right like any american citizen to publicly offer his opinions. he has full faith and confidence in the attorney general to do his job and uphold the law." what is your confidence in attorney general william barr.
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202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. and independents and others, that is, 202-748-8002. we welcome your comments on .witter as well @cspanwj jeremy says i have no confidence in barr at all. the attorney general is not supposed to be the president's errand boy. i like bill barr, he stands up to his critics. i am waiting for indictments of democrats, it will be beautiful. independent. and i have confidence in him. rebecca says donald j. trump is making it impossible to do his job. our democrats line in new york, good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. i have no confidence in barr. i think he is nothing but a puppet to trump.
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.bsolutely zero confidence host: republican line, good morning. caller: i disagree with your characterization of the dispute between barr and trump because i am telling you it is just a disagreement between the ag and the president and the president. and i have a lot of confidence in ag barr because i think he will do something about the situation that brought on the impeachment of the president. host: do you think in terms of his efforts to do that in the department of justice he comes out with critical statements to
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-- declare more independent so he can get those things done? stopr: he says the tweets him from doing his job, but i think he is doing that to ask the president to lay back a little bit, let me do my job and you will see i am independent of anybody. the guy that worked for president obama that was caught deal, i cannot remember his name, but he was the president's wing man. that is as close as you can get to the president and nobody saw that as a bad situation. i think this is a good ag. he will do the right thing and criticizing to quit the president for having an opinion of the ag asking the president to back off a little
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bit. host: one of the things the ag was criticized by is there was an influence in the decision to revise sentencing guidelines that the prosecutors, the ones who later resigned recommended. attorney general -- general william barr defendant himself last night with that interview with pierre thomas. [video clip] >> did you talk to the president at all regarding your recommendations? >> never. >> did anybody from the white house try to call to influence you? >> no. i have not discussed the roger stone case at the white house. host: this is the lead editorial at the wall street journal, reflecting what our republican caller said. trump's worst enemy, he needs to stop tweeting about such cases.
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if the president dislikes the sentence, he has pardon power. -- meanwhile, knock it off. he perhaps does not care all of this hurts mr. barr, who he can ill afford to use. he will give mr. trump his candid advice on the law, which is more than most of his advisors do. mr. barr spoke up in frustration about this thursday telling abc outbursts weres making it "impossible to do my job." the president should listen because he needs mr. barr more than mr. barr needs to be ag. the danger is mr. barr will resign because he is tired of having his credibility undermined by a president who cannot control his political id. in the nation's capital, democrats line, good morning. caller: i think it is important to be realistic about this, the
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wants to ask the question weather trump has spoken directly to william barr or not. he wants to protect his friends and punish his opponents. all barr is saying is keep it quiet and i will do what you want. independents, -- independence, he is telling everyone including the president that it would be easier if trump lets him go ahead and do what he already knows trump wants him to do. host: wisconsin, next up, republican line. this is randy. caller: good morning, c-span. those callers, democrat and republican but -- took the words out of my mouth. barr is not in president trump's
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pocket. i am a one hundred percent backer of the president we have got. he loves a tweet. i think the president should hold off on anything on the law side. the president has been treated terrible by the news media and the news media tricks him into some of these questions he answers and the president, i hope he can see through that a not answerand maybe those questions or get himself involved. . barr is not in his back pocket. attorney general doing what he is supposed to do. i think -- i do like president trump's tweets. i read them all the time. this is one of them i wish he would have held off on.
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in terms of the tweets criticizing the case? caller: he was asked about it at the briefing yesterday and he the, that isaid his job and he takes care of it as he sees. host: let's hear from james next, manhattan, kansas. good morning. caller: hello. how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: i was going to say it is so obvious barr is trump's lapdog. he does everything trump wants even though trump is a criminal and a narcissist. have a nice day. host: alan on the republican line in connecticut. good morning. --ler:
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host: mute your volume. go ahead with your comment. caller: trump is doing a good stocksause he fixed the and the stocks were going down. he should get another four years because everybody saying trump is corrupt, he is not. he is a businessman. he does not take any handouts. he does not take bribery, panhandle, none of that stuff. he was already rich when he got in office. he knows about stocks, that is the reason why that is what makes america great again because he knows how to run it. host: here is the roll call reporting, mcconnell thinks from should listen to barr and not tweet about pending doj
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business. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said thursday he thinks the president should follow the suggestion of william -- the president remained a great choice when he picked bill barr to be the attorney general and i think the president should listen to his advice. i think if the attorney general is not getting in the way of doing his job, the president should listen to the attorney general. the republican leader in the house weighed in on the that have guidelines come down from the department of justice from the attorney general and his comments came before the abc news interview. [video clip] >> if you listen to the department of justice, they made the decision before the tweet went out. attorney general barr is coming before the committee as well,
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but there is no issue. it is like everything else the democrats went to play. all they have is a mission to impeach and this is all they continue to drive. when the rest of america would like to move on and let's work on issues america cares the most about. host: when asked about the comments, is criticism -- the attorney general and his criticism of president trump, to decatur, georgia. caller: my point is if it wasn't so serious, this would make a inat sitcom what is going on our white house. i have more respect for the houston astros. have impeachedld him. at least they are getting rid of the bad actors.
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the houston astros have more integrity than the white house. thank you. hi, thereblican line, . kid.r: barr is not a young he has been doing that stuff for years and years. himself atimes does disservice. guy. could pardon the host: roger stone. caller: right. he could pardon him and not have to explain it to anybody. no matter what he does, democrats are going to jump up and down. if i had been there to talk to the president, i would have said .o and pardon the guy he should have been telling those other people who worked to
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get him in and the department of justice -- they have a lot of them locked up. the other thing trump -- i don't think he understood like going back to that impeachment thing -- trump could have moved all those people out when he became president. that is what president do. now ifow would it look the president pardons roger stone whether it is next week, next year, how does it look? caller: it doesn't matter. look at how they reacted when he just said a citizen is on the high end of the guidelines. it doesn't really matter -- it doesn't really matter. and some pardon stone of those other people.
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the democrats went after everybody who worked for trump during the election. when they found out they were working for trump, the department of justice under comey and the rest of them went after all of those people like the guy on the screen now. it doesn't matter. people are not going to hold that against him because he pardons stone. everybody knows what the deal is and stone running his mouth all thosens want people locked up. we will talk to rick next on the democrats line. caller: thanks for taking my call, good morning. i think people continue to president.te -- this this president knew the democrats were on to him and that is why he has the second
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call in "i did not use quid pro quo" because he knows they were on to him and he is covering his tracks. anybody who has spoken out against the president has not lasted long. all the president did was give bill barr the green light to go ahead and publicly put some words of disagreement on the president policy so it will take the light off of him so when he is going back and doing the , everybody bidding is not saying bill barr is not impartial. it is a smokescreen. nobody lifts a finger without the president's knowledge. he gave him the green light to sohe is against tweeting people can get off the trail so
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he can continue to do his bidding. host: in that interview with pierre thomas, the attorney general was asked about being able to do his job beyond this case and potential future influence from the white house. here is a look. we will show that to you in a sec. we will go to natalie in pennsylvania. you are on the air. thank you for accepting my call. hello? host: you are on the air, go ahead. caller: sorry. i think what the president is doing now really just helps to make it clear other actions of attention.et as much
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he released his budget for this --cal year and a proposed the international affairs budget, which affects all lives in america such as national security and health care and our economy yet it does not get as as wheneveron something like this thing with bill barr comes out because it gets overshadowed and i think it is a shame everything the trump administration does gets overshadowed by things like this. segment -- at least one segment on the budget release, more to come. in that interview, we are talking about with pierre
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thomas, the attorney general said he would continue to make the decisions he thinks are right. [indiscernible] --[video clip] >> the president does not like to be told what to do. he may not like what you are saying. are you prepared for the ramifications? >> of course, but i am most responsible for the decisions brought to me and i will make those decisions based on what i think is the right thing to do and i will not be bullied or influenced by anybody and i cannot do my job at the department with a constant background commentary that undercuts me. you: we have showed segments of that interview. -- your. go.gov thoughts on whether you agree or disagree with his president -- his view.
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doug on facebook says this, his confidence is high, his he hasion is solid and set things contrary to trump, so i feel he is independent-minded. into some of the unsavory things i have heard going on in recent years. vicki says i have great confidence in attorney general barr. president trump has a hard time holding back when he sees such an injustice. no confidence whatsoever, he is beholden to trump and does not work on behalf of the american people. al,arren, ohio, this is republican line. caller: another failed subject we don't need to be talking about.
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bernie is going to destroy the .emocratic party host: we will hear from greg next. caller: i have a lot of confidence in esther barr, i think he is doing a great job. barr is sayingr. about donald trump, everybody's favorite target for a lot of your callers with what eric holder did for barack obama when he called him his wing man. i think you should ask callers criticizing barr about that. did they feel the same way about eric holder. i have called the comment line a lot about the cross-examination that seems to be done by some of the host and not all of them. you either cross-examine everybody or nobody. a lot of stupid things are being
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said and i don't hear any pushback from you today in particular. ask these people who have no confidence what is going to happen when the doj files, if aftero, criminal charges the callers that. please. host: appreciate your input. our job is not necessarily to cross-examine people who call, it is a forum for you to call and express your opinions. if we ask a question, it is based on something you may say. we try to give as much time as possible for you to have your say unless time for us to speak, frankly. chris on the independent line. caller: good morning, c-span. what bill barr said was
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technically true, but broadly speaking, it was a lie. president trump is very smart and he is not going to invite bill barr to the white house to discuss the roger stone case and he will not send a tweet and expect something to happen. he is going to use surrogates. it is the same playbook as putin, plausible deniability. who i really fault is not trump or barr, but the interviewer and the media and not -- for not pressing this and asking these questions more reasonably. it was a terrible interview. i could have done a better job. host: chris in scottsdale, thanks for that. william next in kentucky, republican line. caller: i believe the president t to stay out of mr. barr's
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isn't is. i am upset with him doing this. two weeks he is back in trouble again and needs to stay out of it. i have lost all report -- all respect for the president. barr says attacks from impossible.ork his attacks on the justice department made it impossible for me to do my job and i am not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody. mr. barr has been among the loyal allies.st he publicly challenged mr. trump in a way that no sitting cabinet member has. mr. barr's remarks were aimed at rogerning the fallout stone convicted of 7 felonies in a bid to obstruct a congressional investigation that threatened the president.
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after they recommended a sentence of seven to nine years, mr. trump spent days attacking them. the fallout from the stone episode threatened to spin out of control after the prosecutors on the case withdrew from it and mr. trump widened attacks on law .nforcement career prosecutors began to express worry their work could be used to settle political scores and doubts they could protect them from political interference. inhear next from randy maryland, democrats line. host: hello. i am getting tired of these republicans taking up for president.is if anybody believes he is not crooked, there is something the matter with them. it is only common sense to see what is going on. he is so crooked, it is not
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funny and i had to put my two cents into it. some of these republicans are so stupid the way they sound, it is unbelievable. host: glad you got through. to detroit, this is linda. caller: good morning. i hope you have a nice weekend. host: thank you. caller: i think barr needs to stop -- start working on rudy. fox news used to have rudy on all the time. i am quite sure they are running taken --cause rudy has this president is pitiful. i wish you would quit speaking of obama. obama is no longer the president. this is what you are stuck with now and it is not looking well
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for any of them. thank you and have a nice weekend. host: you as well headed into the president's day weekend. the president and the first lady headed to mar-a-lago and he will be in daytona for the start of the race. they feelericans say better off after the first three years of trump, encouraging news and his battle for reelections. no other incumbent president has enjoyed such a high percentage of people saying they feel better about their situation. in 2012, 45% of americans told gallup they were better off than they were three years ago. and 1994, the number was 50%. to arlington, texas, on the independent line. caller: i don't have any confidence in attorney general barr. he along with donald trump and
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the republican party are showing themselves to be neofascist. he has collided our institutions into controlling themselves. he has the instincts of an autocrat he doesn't believe in poor people are people he deems to be a threat to his corruption. this statement barr put out was not a statement. it was more of a public relations massage for people to think he is independent of donald trump. a sitting president who has the ability to pardon a person would step in before sentencing and for state apartment of justice to offer a lighter sentence when there are several instances of injustice in this country and all the people in the republican party never said one thing.
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eric was murdered on the side of the road in new york city. no one talks about process or fairly. everyone says he should not have swung his arm and resisted. the republican will ignore the facts because they don't believe in reality. they believe in propaganda. this gallup poll, i will respond a saying i have not received penny more in my paycheck. i made $121,000 last year and made -- paid almost $30,000 in federal taxes. host: are your taxes higher than they were before the tax law changed? caller: yes, they are. i pay more in medicare. i pay more in social security. i don't pay state taxes. i have had to increase my dependents and contributions to my 401(k).
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i have a company paid pension. one of the only companies in the country that offers a company paid pension, but i am not better off. we are all paying more under this tax cut we were supposed to receive. carolina,o to north beverly, democrats line. caller: good morning and happy valentine's day. host: thank you. caller: what can i say? every night you go to bed and every morning when you wake up, there is a joke waiting on you from mr. trump. barr should cut it out. he is lying through his teeth. he met with trump and decided to do this. this is getting to be too heavy for him to deal with the can wetor episodes and remember the mueller report? it?he read
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how he covered it up? how he let mr. trump roll around the country lying through his teeth and he backing the president and when he did release it, it was blacked out? do we remember these things? host: pelosi says barr deeply butged the rule of law dismisses impeaching him. the speaker of the house had a news conference yesterday happening before the interview with the attorney general and here is what she said. we saw --[video clip] >> we saw the president assaultate he has no for the rule of law. roger stone demonstrated obstruction and witness tampering. that is what stone was indicted for. this was an abuse of power the
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president is trying to manipulate federal law enforcement. the president thinks he is above the law and has no respect. where are the republicans to speak out on this blatant violation? ag barr has damaged the rule of law by withdrawing the doj sentencing accusation and trump retribution against the attorney in the stone case. the prosecutors -- imagine if they separated themselves. days after firing lieutenant colonel vindman for speaking truth to power, this must be investigated. the american people must have confidence of impartial justice -- act of courage on their part and must be commended by
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the actions of the justice department. the justice department should something so above the political fray that people have confidence in the rule of law in our country. the attorney general has stooped to such levels. he has lied to congress for which he will be in contempt. sad's appointment to our country. att: on twitter we are @cspanwj. they were corrupt, the democrats admit -- or try to impeach them? no. the only thing i am confident of is barr is -- barr better watch out, telling donald to stay in his lane, he might be escorted out.
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from this one, barr interviewed sounded like a mobster telling his boss to calm down. he rigged it right for the boss. mike in ohio. you are on the air. i am soi want to say tired of nancy pelosi and these people who are so jealous of donald trump. him dohe man alone, let his job. it is ridiculous already. economy.he as theets are not as bad swamp. host: jerry, independent line. caller: yes, sir. barr isattorney general
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doing a good job and i also --nk the lady that called in neither would leave barr alone. host: north carolina on our independent line. i made the decision before president trump tweeted that out and barr is an honest man and president trump is the best president we have ever had in our lives. the democrat people need to
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think back at the beginning of 2016 andion in 2017, the news media never tells you who to vote for and they were listening to the news media and all of a sudden turned totally democrat. host: losing you, sorry about that. congress wraps up their work yesterday and now on break for the presidents' day week, the headline, senate passes resolution that would limit trump's war powers on iran. publicans joined democrats. the chairman of the foreign relations committee is jim risch and he spoke out against the measure on the senate floor. [video clip] >> there was no doubt this man was planning an imminent attack to kill americans. he did not get the chance. thank you, mr. president.
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thank you for what you did. we have heard the argument it was not imminent. this person was a substantially .ore imminent danger when the president of the united outes, barack obama took osama bin laden, we cheered him. we passed a resolution 100 to zero commending the president of the united states for what he did. today, you heard us past such a resolution thanking you. thank you, mr. president and farewell, general solemani. iran, do not is calculate and read what is happening here as capitulation or weakness or appeasement. it is not. it is a disagreement between this branch of government, the legislative branch and the executive branch as to how we
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should defend ourselves. make no mistake about it, we will defend ourselves. in america, we operate under the rule of law. this bill bang in front of us that we are debating today will not become law. it will not be part of the body of law we live by. it will be vetoed. , take note. if you continue on the path you are on with your malign activities, it will take you to a very bad place. i urge a no vote. i understand how this will come out. i will be standing here to sustain the president's veto and it will be sustained. host: that measure passed in the u.s. senate yesterday. one of those speaking in favor of the resolution after the vote was iraq war veteran and senator
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tammy duckworth. [video clip] >> the constitution does not give the president the power to declare war. only congress has that ability and it is regardless of who is in the white house. when i was recovering at walter reed, there were protesters outside the hospital gaetz, especially friday when the fresh wounded were flown in from afghanistan and iraq and they were outside the gates and the buses would have to go through protesters and i was proud they were there because they were exercising their right to free speech and i fought for the right to free speech. when families are praying for safety, theyones' need to know they have the backing of the full congress of the united states so they can do their job and not have to worry about whether or not what they are doing is in keeping with
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what our government wants. this is why it is so important to have this debate on the aumf. weeks sincefive president trump circumvented congress and launched a strike that killed general solemani. while i am glad the man is dead, i am glad he has gone to meet his maker, that decision put americans at greater risk because he did not have a good plan with how to react to the aftermath. we have more troops deployed to the middle east and we have 15,000 more troops in the middle east today than there were when president trump took office. for a man who said he would lower the number of troops in the middle east, we now have 15,000 more. i think we need to have a discussion to avoid expansion of the mission creep that happens.
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when i pointed out secretary mark esper told me under oath the a umf that exists now would not authorize war with iran, the administration pivoted to other excuses as to why they were conducting the threat against soleimani. host: that measure passed by the senate goes to the president who is likely to veto it. a little more than 15 minutes of your calls and comments on the attorney general of william barr with abc news. itmp's tweets make impossible to do job. 202-748-8001 is our republican line. 202-748-8000 for democrats. and for independents and others, that is, 202-748-8002. yorktown, virginia, independent line. this is jan. caller: good morning. happy valentine's day. host: thank you. caller: i have no confidence in
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barr and no-confidence in cadet bone spurs in this entire administration. this is another quid pro quo by trump and it will be investigated by nancy pelosi. take heart america, we are very close to election time. we will be bringing in mike and amy. take heart, progressives, we will turn it around. host: florida, tom is on the republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning. i have to admit this roger stone the top ofot been at my attention, but what i heard yesterday frightened me. what i heard was the foreman of this jury perjured herself as activismr personal
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leanings against the republican judgeand that this actually facilitated eric holder on his out the clock perjuring of the famous and he got away with perjuring before congress. i don't think i am going to convince a lot of people about to me, whatht now this signified is the press has abandoned the american people. the press is no longer a a fact-finding organ of our society. all we get is opinion press, not fact press. i ask everyone hearing my voice
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and thatdo one thing is the thing i am doing right now. with regard to these allegations, ask yourself one question, is that true? when we hear something in the press, is that true? is that a fact? that is what we need to do if we want to keep this nation arether because the facts indisputable, but opinion can go all over the place. if the facts are true about this foreman and this judge, it would be the equivalent of a black man being judged guilty by an thathite jury with a judge is a descendent of general
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forrest, who started the ku klux klan. i am frightened by what i hear. host: we go to david next, democrats line. areer: these republicans outrageous. the party of cowards, that is what republicans are. they are all cowards and i hope they are very happy they have turned america into a communist nation. host: specifically on the question about the attorney general, was it the right thing to do the interview yesterday? do you think he made himself clear to president trump where he stands? caller: i would not trust the swamp barr at all. he is for the president. he does the president's bidding. he is supposed to be america's attorney. he gets paid by the taxpayer and
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he does the swamp trump's bidding. host: we are just over a week away in the next stop in the 2020 campaign. axios reporting on a pole -- from the morning consult, sanders submits front runner status. his second success a strong showing in the first nominating contest. bernie sanders opened a double-digit lead over joe biden and entrenched himself as the best position candidate headed into next week. our coverage of the caucuses gets underway tomorrow night. it is the kickoff took caucus. a number of the candidates speaking and it gets underway at 11:00 eastern from clark county, nevada. we will have that from las vegas ase on c-span and c-span.org well.
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jeff in florida, democrats line. caller: thank you for having my call. i want to tell you i will never vote democrat again. right.low floridian was her husband was also a prosecutor on the stone case, too. person and a judge and jury all against roger stone. look what the democrats have done to the country and their own party. it is sad and it is not a political thing, it is a spiritual, religious thing. host: michael is next in california, republican line. caller: this is michael. how are you doing? host: fine, thanks. caller: in 2012, klapper lied
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when he was asked if he represented americans and he said no. you can pull that clip up and he and says and confessed he said no, but nobody charged him with anything. nothing.oj did an associate of trump gets punched in the face, but if you are a democrat and you commit a hand. they shake your i am getting fed up with everybody in washington. republicans are not standing up for themselves and the american people. they are going to make for -- it is making the american people mad and me mad. host: james and logan, west virginia. caller: attorney barr has a problem. his attorneys under him are
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abandoning the ship, they are leaving. he has a major credibility issue he is facing. he has to backtrack. he backtracked after these four prosecutors left. he has to build confidence with these prosecutors across the united states. host: this is a story that came out early yesterday morning. in a number of news reports, bankruptcy plan is to put lender in publisher seat. it was a thriving family business that got us started as a four-page newspaper for residents of sacramento in the wake of the gold rush. the publisher of the sacramento bee, miami herald, and 28 other dailies has filed for bankruptcy and expected to be run by a new york hedge fund. in a chapter 11 filing on thursday, mcclatchy said it planned to restructure the
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pension obligation and address $700than 700 million -- million in debt. had struggled with debt for more than a decade after it acquired a rival billionr chain for $4.5 in 2006 and then came the recession and a sharp decline in revenue and the rise of digital media. and -- linda is next in new jersey. go ahead. you are on the air. caller: hi. i don't see anything wrong with what barr did. he investigated before trump tweeted. as far as the new york times, i don't respect them whatsoever. show me anything good that the new york times wrote about president trump. people have to do the
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background. i knew this was going to happen after the impeachment. they even warned us they were going to find something. i think it is ridiculous we have to -- he is constantly harassed and everything is twisted to where he cannot do his job. tople at -- are listening the media without doing investigation and looking at the background of these people that are doing the investigation that worked for the obama administration like the lawyer and that will all come out. we have to constantly tell us the truth because when i watch the media, they all say different things. i don't see anything good they say about our president even though the economy is good. a democrat, it would not be blown out of proportion like this. it is dangerous for our country.
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towe want like a communist come in? do we want to be like venezuela? minutes left,re your confidence in the attorney general. on facebook, facebook.com/cspan, charity says he has lost all credibility when he deliberately misled the public on the findings of the mueller report. eric says he is a confident and smart man. he has virtually an unblemished and impeccable record. rocky says his confidence is extremely high. believe he and his team will uncover the truth. there will be many people who think -- thought they were home free. i don't think so. barr's loyalties lie with trump and trump alone. he is in trump's pocket all the way. bill king says barr -- unless attorney general barr has the ovalge to walk into the
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office and tell trump stay out business, his offhand comments mean nothing. does he have that courage? i doubt it. on the independent line, this is jennifer. caller: hello? host: you are on the air. caller: it seems like a couple callers before me have absolutely summed up what i believe of bill barr. he has an embellished -- unblemished career. i trust him 100%. just because the president tweets -- everybody has the right to tweet. watchight undermine -- i c-span all day. the democrat party has been after anybody trump has selected to work in his administration. they want to impeach everyone.
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they want to bring him down and make him look bad for this upcoming election. i don't believe anything from the media because there are pockets of liberals. the democrat party lie. i am so sick of the bias and hypocrisy from democrats. the obama administration, you had eric holder with fast and hillary benghazi, and clinton destroying evidence and she had a slap on the wrist and then roger stone who lied to the jury. it is not proportionate, it is ridiculous. the people calling in who have attorneynse to say general barr is independent and very competent, i go with them 100%. thank you. host: chicago next, this is melvin on the democrats line.
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caller: good morning. how are you doing? happy valentine's day to you. host: all i want to cite --thank you. caller: all i want to say is everybody is talking about attorney general barr. they are talking about roger stone, he was convicted by a jury of 12. he was convicted by a jury of 12. he was convicted on all seven accounts. if you take a picture of a judge -- het a bull's-eye on it deserves whatever he gets. maybe the seven years, it might be more. ofgot convicted by a jury 12. this is the way our democratic society works. i don't understand republicans. they want to go with the juror, the judge, everybody except the law. the law convicted him.
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they convicted him. thank you. host: sam is next on the independent line in new york. sam in new york, go ahead. caller: i think barr is doing a good job. i think democrats need to leave the president alone and let him do his job. he is right on putting the wall -- because i worked a lot doplaces and the mexicans take our jobs, american jobs that are here illegally. host: here is an opinion piece at foxnews.com. -- bank should not criticize barr should not criticize the roger stone tweet, he should clean up the mess.
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there., hi, caller: when i was watching that interview, it brought back a conversation i had with a farmer about 30 years ago and he told me don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. there is a glitch in there. that means they skipped and jumped to the next segment. there is something they did not want you to hear. it is not because they did not have time or it is not important, it is because they did not want you to hear it. are fakep says they news, they are fake news. host: they posted the whole go.com,nline at abcnews. but appreciate you calling in. we are going to speak to carol .eakins -- carol jenkins later on, national border patrol president brandon judd joins us
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a brief history of its passage and why it is current, now. for havingks so much me, again. i love being on your program to talk with you and your viewers. about this extremely essential amendment that we need to place on the constitution. the constitution needs to be fixed one more time. it has been amended, 20 seven times. the e.r.a. would be the 28th amendment. it will effectively say that you in factibit -- it would put into the constitution prohibiting discrimination by sex. that is a major advancement in our constitution. prohibit this termination. that is why we need it. it would be to put women into the constitution. , it did notitten include women. women were deliberately left
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out. yesterday, we had a huge day in the house of representatives. delegates and representatives passed a bill by jackie speier, from california, that would dissolve the time limit that was imposed on the e.r.a. bill, when it was passed by congress in 1972. so, where we are now with the equal rights amendment, originally proposed by ellis paul in 1923. we have been working on this for almost 100 years. 50 years since congress passed it by two thirds of the representatives there. now, ratified by 38 states across the country. what has happened is that after a long period of what people considered stalling or no visible action, we have tremendous action. we have met the requirements outlined in the constitution on
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article five for amending the constitution. we have the two thirds vote. we have the 38 states. it next step is to certify by the archivists and make it happen. that will give millions of girls rightsen in this country and privileges that they do not have now. host: you pointed out the passage in the u.s. house, extending the timeline. this is a headline in usa today. the house breeds life into the equal rights a minute. it faces a challenge in the u.s. senate. it has to pass the senate, correct? guest: it does, indeed. i want to say it is not a matter of extending the deadline. it is a matter of dissolving, removing completely, the time limit that was imposed. we don't use the word deadline. it was not in the amendment itself that the states voted on. it was in the joint resolution or the introduction, what some call the preamble.
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it was nothing that the states voted on. votedething the states on. we believe it can and should be removed. it has to go to the center and we have a bill there. senators ben cardin and lisa murkowski have a bipartisan bill that already has 44 cosponsors and we hope it will be moving forward in the u.s. senate. host: tell us about the state level. the state of virginia has passed the e.r.a.. statesber -- guest: our legal task force does not believe that will work, that they have the right to. you cannot have excessive legislative bodies undoing what
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earlier bodies have done. it would just breathe chaos into everything that we try to do in the country, legally. so, there is obviously a lot to be determined as we move forward in trying to get the amendment totally accepted and placed as the 28th amendment to the constitution. host: carol jenkins is our guest, joining us in new york, talking about the equal rights a minute. the effort to pass it is certainly successful. the measure was passed in the house, yesterday. and the challenge ahead in the u.s. senate, as she mentioned him to go. we welcome your calls and comments. four republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. for independents, (202) 748-8002 . i wanted to play the comments of justice ruth bader ginsburg.
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she dealt a fatal blow to the equal rights a mimic. her comments were used in the floor debate in the house, yesterday. here is what the justice said. >> there is a distinction between equal protection clause and having an actual amendment that lays it out. years ago, i was involved in some litigation involving extension of the deadline on the equal rights a minute. we recently had virginia passing equal rights amendment. leaving aside whether any deadline will be extended, what is your prognosis on when we will get an equal rights amendment on the federal level? >> i would like to see a new over.ing, to start there is too much controversy about latecomers in virginia, long after the deadline passed. plus, a number of states have withdrawn their ratification.
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count a latecomer on the plus side, how can you disregard states that have changed outlines? host: what did you think when ginsburg justice repai say she would like to see a new beginning? guest: the timing could have been better. it does not come as a complete surprise to us because she has said that before. what we know is she is a fervent supporter of the equal rights amendment. what we believe is that we can start over. session, every represented of carolyn maloney's bill, we do exactly that. -- representative, carolyn maloney's bill, we do exactly that. while we have this other activity that we have been working on, this amendment that we have been working on for almost 100 years, we do not want to dishonor the work of 100
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years at 50 years, or, for some ,eople who are still with us 1923. we are prepared to complete this movement to its finish. we believe we can get this amendment ratified and placed on the constitution. if we do not succeed, we are willing to start all over again. easily. scare that we understand, we get it. yesterday, for instance, at the house of representatives, i took my 10-year-old granddaughter with me. she has been working on the e.r.a. since she was seven years old. i wanted her to see the good results of the work that she did in accompanying me to a representatives office and offices, trying to get them to support and be cosponsors for the amendment. i have a photograph of her
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--ting next to at least the conversation they were having was that if we succeed 50 in this effort, ellie's years would surpass avery's three years. if we don't and we have to start all over again, it is possible that avery's legacy will be 50 or 60 years in the future of trying to do that. remember, it is getting a two thirds agreement in congress and getting 38 states. that is a tough order. we can do it if we have to start all over again. i would rather honor ellie's 50 years of work that she has put toit, rather than task avery get these kinds of rights for girls in our country. do we really have to wait another two or three or four
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generations before girls have the same rights as men or boys in this country? host: we have a number of calls to gretchenwill go in montauk, new york, first. good morning. caller: good morning. i was so happy i watched it on to gretchen inc-span, yesterday. i met ellie in the 70's. i have been working as long as her. aboutthat movie on hbo ruth bader ginsburg and she made a brilliant comment that the word woman is not used one time in the constitution. are doing it and thank you so much. you make my day! guest: thank you for calling in. we will do it. hopefully now, we are determined to get this done. thank you for your work. host: in california, democrats
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line, go ahead. caller: hello. guest: hi, good morning. we didn't catch your comment. caller: have you read the brilliant matilda, josh and engage? lyn gage? guest: i have heard of her work. is that a favorite source of yours? i no of her work but i am not read her work. i know people who are working on her legacy which is extremely important. host: what is your comment? caller: she was a brilliant writer. like ruth bader ginsburg, she -- sometimes you have to change the words of what you are trying to get to. if you can't say what you mean, you can't mean what you say and you can't get what you want. i think women don't want a quality they want equivalent rights as wind. they see men or other women
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working in a different category, doing the same work they do, and they are getting paid significantly less because they are not in the same category. the people right next to them, the men next to them are getting equal pay as they do. they are not getting the equal pay as the people in a different category. work, youquivalent should get equivalent pay. host: we will get a response. guest: we agree. i think that so much of the research demonstrates that women , we say are the chief of labor in our country. magnificentulted in profit lines for so many corporations and even small companies. they are consistently underpaid for the same equivalent as he would say, for the same work. even some of the good guys who think and say great things about equal pay and of how supportive they are of women, when they
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look at their books, they discover that they are paying the women than -- less than they pay the men. these are the good guys. we had press conferences and releases saying yes what? we can say -- guess what? we can now say that we pay the women but we pay our men. we have had to make adjustments to do that. it may have costed millions of dollars to do that. is one of the things that will change america. america, we think of it as this great democracy. it is one of the great ones. it does not treat its women well. are in not until women the constitution. we have tried everything else. we have tried the pipeline. we have spent trillions of dollars, trying to equal things up and it has not worked. people are still the floor of our country. the underpaid, the underemployed.
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the only thing that is going to change that is e.r.a.. host: let's go to michael in alabama. first times is my calling c-span in several months. please forgive me if i sound nervous. this jenkins, before i ask my aestion, let me, as born-again saved christian, let me apologize thoroughly for all of those white males out there, some black ministers who say they love women so much but, in opposing not only the e.r.a. but some of the radical ones, such things as female governors, they constantly quote saying they love women, they quote first corinthians chapter 11 and first timothy chapter two and first peter, chapter three. all of which -- they interpret these literally for the 21st
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century and i want to apologize about that. my concern, however, is even though i am a political liberal when it comes to washington's fiscal policy, gunowners responsibilities and foreign policy based on human rights, i am a little concerned about and wonder about whether or not conservatives -- religious conservatives are correct about possible side effects if the e.r.a. were passed. filing who as people want unisex bathrooms, same-sex or,rooms, filing lawsuits one incident i think in the state of oregon, flaming male cross-dressers leading children in storytime at a public library, would you address those concerns for undecided american voters, thank you so much. thank you so much for
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your call today. you have raised some important issues. we want to say that we totally .espect personal beliefs those of us working for the equal rights amendment, none of us want that to interfere with anyone's private, personal beliefs. the equal rights amendment is about giving girls and women equality. that is what we are working for. i know about all of the side that are brought up. this is not the form to the side or debate those personal beliefs . this is a question about constitutional equality. do you believe that women should have equal rights in this country? that is a straightforward question that can be answered yes or no. peopledo, then that
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rights amendment is a way forward for you. if you don't, object. we disagree with people on all kinds of things. and we respect the disagreement. the ability to. if you believe in equality for do,n and, most americans our research demonstrates that 94% of all americans want constitutional equality for women. 99% of the millennials, the young people want equality for women. whoe are people out there say no we don't. in 2020, we consider that to be mystifying to us. but, you are right to believe that is absolutely yours. -- but you're right to believe that is absolutely yours. extending the deadline ratification, removing that,
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going onto the senate, say it passes congress, a number of legal experts have cast doubt on whether the removal of that deadline can be applied retroactively. what could be ahead for the e.r.a. and the courts? could this wind up being a supreme court decision? guest: it could. many say it most likely will. for all of the legal activity that we have had surrounding the sure helately, i'm dreamed it would never be his faith that he would be sued by alabama and two other states and three ratifying states. my people in massachusetts. they are demanding that he not certify virginia, and therefore orplete the requirements
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make the e.r.a. the 20 of women or that he do it, we have definitely entered the legal phase of this. the courtroom phase of it. fortunately for us, the executive branch has no authority in amending the u.s. constitution so it is an opinion. not anything that is valid, in terms of determining the outcome. he said he will not do anything. the archivist says he will not do anything until there is a final court order. we assume that he means the supreme court. int: we will hear from anne
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louisville, kentucky. caller: i would like to talk about what i was reading about this morning that is happening in connecticut, about two young andwho identify as women are competing against women in a track and field event. if we are wanting equal rights on yourn, the lady panel nose in your heart -- her heart and anybody would know in their heart that women would not be able to compete against a biological male in a sport. my daughter is us women. all you would have to do is look at the competition times of the men against the women and you can see that there is no way that women can compete. sportsare looking at across the board, how in the world could anyone say that women are being treated equally when they are allowing dialogical males to compete against them in the exact same sport? host: we will get a response from carol jenkins.
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guest: we think that is a matter that is best decided in the courts. having much to do with so equal rights amendment, that we have to separate the things that people may object to . i think those things are handled best in the courts. i believe the supreme court is taking up cases that will resolve so much of the gender problems, controversy for us. how many states have made an equal whites -- equal rights amendment part of their state constitution? guest: we think there are about 25 states. which is, you know, a hefty number. the equal rights amendment movement continues, there will be more. states,with on ratified
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working on the federal level. we have a call, every other week, we talk about strategy. things that have worked and have not. virginia is our star because they did such a magnificent job on the federal level. an york state is considering equal rights a minute that we have been working on as well. and is an expanded inclusive e.r.a. -- amendment that we have been working on as well. that is an expanded and inclusive e.r.a. it deals with race and gender. i think that, moving along, new york state would be the first to do that kind of inclusive e.r.a.. the governor is now supporting that. 62-0 inte passed it, the last session. the assembly is about to take it
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up, now. as we move forward in this country, we will be looking at all kinds of constitutional createdn that has persistent problems for us. even though we have some laws that have worked very well for us, we can look around at our country and no that there is know discrimination -- there is still discrimination and huge gaps in terms of wealth gaps in our country. one of the ways of fixing that is by amendments. host: we will hear from bill on our democrats line. caller: good morning, c-span and thank you very much, miss jenkins. happy valentine's day. guest: thank you. watching yesterday and what is it with the conservative white republicans? why do they hate women? why are they afraid of women? i happen to be gay.
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ago, past.5 months transgender remembrance day. palm springs, one of the gayest places on earth is where i live, and it is like why can't we just get along? the other night downtown, there was a lady on the street, in a wheelchair. she must have been 70 years old and homeless. of theto work with one food banks in palm springs. the senior center here, 300 people a week go through there, for food. over 140od bank, people are hurting. it is a mess. it is not benefiting anybody but the rich. host: that was a little off the topic but thanks for calling in. let me ask you about some pushback from the conservative eagle form and a statement about the e.r.a. -- forum and a statement about the e.r.a. that
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says it will not give women any more current rights in the what they have -- than what they have. the supreme court, they say, has already applied the 14th amendment to women's issues. that is from the eagle forum. and there has been a great deal of progress. clearly, if you look at america and you look at its women, it has not been able to fix the , --s of deep-seated eded systemic problems in our country. i have great appreciation for those who are trying to use the 14th a moment to get records for women. so many things are not covered by the 14th amendment. i think that, you know, we just have to take a look.
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the previous caller was talking about food insecurity and food banks and hunger in our country. i respect is bringing that up, because most of the hungry in this country are women. most of the homeless in this trying toe women, house and feed their children and have not been able to do that. domestic violence and aggression in the workplace have not been able to get sufficient recourse. we believe that the equal rights amendment will give constitution -- constitutional, federal recourse to women in these issues. all praises to the 14th amend. host: the language of the proposed equal rights a minute. equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the u.s. on -- in any stay on the count of sex. i don't have my constitution in
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front of me but that must be the shortest of language in any of the amendments to the constitution or in this case, the proposed amendment. guest: that's right. a little mystifying to all of us working so hard on it why there would be so much objection to it. mostly, it is because we are trying to -- fix so many issues in this one a mimic. we have to ask ourselves, this said, she grandmother said i want you to see the faces of people who are courageous enough, brave enough to do the right thing. they are doing this for you. nancy pelosi said to my granddaughter, this is all about you. this is all about the future generations of girls that do not need to live in a substandard environment for the rest of their lives.
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we can get this done now. get: let's see if we can another call. lawrence from frostburg maryland, republican line. caller: thank you so much for c-span. i want to express to you the e.r.a. is not and should not be a republican or democrat issue. it should wholeheartedly be an american issue. piece that was put just a moment ago on the 14th amendment, somehow negates the , i don'tthe e.r.a. think that that can be sustained. it was in 1920, 60 years after we had the passage of the 14th amendment with the protections lost that we had to have the passage of the 19th of mimic which guaranteed the right to vote. i guess my concern is, with this
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between the house and the senate, is it time for republicans and democrats to stand up, particularly people like moscow mitch, who have been appointing so many judges that will stand in the way, in terms of the judicial process, of fortifying some of the gains for women. this is not a republican or democratic issue. this is for our mothers, daughters, children, grandmothers, two standup united. host: we will get a response from carol jenkins. guest: thank you so much. it is a human rights issue. i agree, we agree. when you go across the country, asking people, they all say yes. we just have to get it done. thank you so much for your impassioned support.
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host: here is paula, next up, in the nation's capital, democrats line. caller: yes, good morning c-span. thank you so much. i just had two thoughts. the first thought is i have been a federal government worker for a long time. things that the federal government, there is a false equivalency as far as women advancing in the federal government, where there are women now in positions, i work in human resources as a director, where we are in leadership positions. over time, these positions have ofn reduced in the level work, how they are classified and how they speak. there were men in these
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positions, 20 years ago, that were executives. now, overall, in the lower level rankings, but still running the same kind of programs. you look at it as women advancing. it really isn't an advance if and we arere reduced earning less money. that is the first thing. the second thing i would ask of feel that theyou equal rights amendment can -- can it affect the right to choose? i'm not well versed in it. has may be a question that already been answered. but where is that connection? host: ok. guest: good news for you. the equal rights amendment will
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affect the u.s. government and discrimination there. and discrimination in state government. two things. once it is ratified, there is a two-year waiting period. and then it applies to federal and state governments, initially. itturally, the impact of will change our country, dramatically. as for the choice issue, i think that, as i have said before, there is a format for roe v. wade. that is the law of the land, decided by the supreme court. we believe the courts are the place to debate those kinds of issues. and not to put that on the back of equality for women. we should be able to get this done in a very speedy and fair way. pay andr comment about she works for the federal government, let me ask you about title vii and title nine.
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title vii applies to the civil rights act and prohibits discrimination against women in the workplace. with 15es to workplaces or more employees. title ix prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in schools. in title vii, why hasn't that been enough to equalize both pay and treatment in the workplace for women? think, in so many cases, it is a person by person, case-by-case kind of approach. you have to go to court and have a lawyer and pay thousands of dollars in so many instances to get your due course. moni --where all the money has been donated and given the time's up for lawyers and given to women who feel that they have been discriminated against. moneya time-consuming, consuming approach to equality. e.r.a. woulde the
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assist those. we are not talking about replacing any of that. we are not talking about diminishing the effect and value of that. yes, keep that and add the e.r.a.. enhances equality for women and gives it a fundamental right in federal cases. so many cases go all the way to the supreme court. justice will decide there is no grounds for it here. it is rejected, out of hand. this would permanently instruct -- enshrine the rights of girls and women into the constitution. i say just look around. look at pregnancy, women who are pregnant are being fired every day in this country, because they are considered a handicap to whatever workplace they may be in. adjustments are being made in many cases for the men.
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giving a replacement, a desk job and things like that. all we need for evidence is the status of women in america and we know that it is substandard and we believe the only way of fixing it, we have tried everything else during a century of working for the e.r.a. and it has not worked. we have yet to make progress. we are nowhere near the equal girls that women and deserve in this country. they require something radical, big and fundamental. that is what the e.r.a. is. host: 10 more minutes without guest, carol jenkins, the copresident and ceo of the e.r.a. coalition. we welcome your calls. .epublicans, (202) 748-8001
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democrats, (202) 748-8000. , (202) 748-8002 . i will play you the comments of here what you and have to say. >> it is problematic on several fronts. the resolution is unconstitutional. the time limit expired decades ago. congress cannot go back and remove a deadline from a previous constitutional amendment initiative. the supreme court has recognized e.r.a. expired. the department of justice issued a ruling saying congress may not revive or propose an amendment after the deadline for ratification has expired. limit --move the time saying we can remove the time limit is futile. if the time limit could be extended, the e.r.a. would not bring women anymore rights than
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they currently have, right now. the it would entrance legality of abortion. -- entrench the legality of abortion. in 1998, the new mexico supreme court ruled that the equal rights and women in their state constitution requires state funding of abortions. federal courts are likely to do the same. host: a number of points in yesterday's debate. feel free to respond to any one of them. guest: i will say that the department of justice memo, opinion, has no affect, other the archivist from doing his job, momentarily. there are lawsuits. nevada, illinois, and virginia,
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ey aree insisting that th doing their job. it has moved to the courts. that is where it ultimately will be decided. i think that we have covered so and of the outside issues placed it on the back of this one a memento gift women equality in this country. i say, it gives the impression that they hate women. i don't believe that is the case. we are just so fixed on the fact up withen can just put not being in the constitution, not having equal rights forever. they have done it, so far. i feel like there is a feeling out there of why should it change? it should change because it has to. the will of the people says that it must. even when we only had 35 states
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ratified, i think about that and say how remarkable was that? that was 70% of the country. now that we have 38% -- 38 states ratified and we are working on a 50 state goal for the e.r.a. coalition, we work every day to see the other 12 states that have not ratified ratified. we are moving forward. we intend to finish this. we intend to make sure women have equality in this country. host: let's hear from joe in maine, next. caller: thank you c-span, for taking my call. the disproportionate amount of women who are not paid the if they will up the minimum wage, how will they ever take care of women or men? they are leaving them in poverty, a sickly 40 hours --
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basically 40 hours for minimum wage, you can do the math. how can you live on that? my second point is the senators and congressmen, it is my understanding that senators and wereessmen, some of them involved in sexual assaults that were covered up and they used senate money, taxpayer money to pay off these women and cover up, not always women. i will make that point. and cover up for themselves. they refused to investigate it earlier in this year. they refuse to investigate it now. sexual assaults where they use taxpayers money. there are people serving in congress and the senate, right now. it is outrageous. people expecting these to change a law that is going to get them in trouble? the facts on these assaults -- host: we will let you go, there.
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guest: we have a lot of work to do, don't we? that the equal rights amendment is -- would be able to assist women who have been the victims of aggression, sexual aggression. the me too movement -- #metoo movement has been a revelation to this country. people are on notice that this will not be tolerated. i appreciate your understanding and perception of what is going on. it is a little bit outside of my expertise to comment on the senators activities. we hope that they will support women. that senator cardin is convinced that should this bill remove the deadline and to the senate floor, it will pass.
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it is a question of unlocking it. we talked about equal pay. the question from marietta saying why the disparity between black women and white women and other women of color in pay, doing the same job? will the e.r.a. fix that? thet: it will, because of cultural impact. we see it happening now that people are realizing that something is amiss. it has been amiss for ever. that,at they recognize they are beginning to make changes. still, you realize the figures in this country, the pay gap, a latina woman has to work an a whiteear beyond what man has worked to earn the same amount of money. what a white man earned in 2019, will havelatina woman
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to work most of 2020 to earn that same amount of pay. we have huge discrepancies that need to be fixed. we believe that the e.r.a. will help fix that. culturally, it will have a huge impact. we are beginning to see the impact, already. patricia,s hear from calling from franklin, indiana, democrats line. about thewas calling ratification. i think it can be done. i think miss jenkins can get a hold of it. i sure hope so. know, sometimes, all women are not married. they are the head of the household. you know, they have to feed their children or, you know, they have to work to make ends meet, where the it is -- whether it is rents, food, whatever. yes, we need this ratified, very much so. indiana.ricia in
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where does indiana stand on this, carol jenkins? guest: give me a moment for that. [laughter] caller: i did not -- host: i did not mean to put you on the spot. any final thoughts for the caller, otherwise? guest: thank you so much for that. as we have pointed out, the women of america are the ones who are the hungriest. theones who are suffering most. what they need is legal representation in the equal rights amendment. so, i would send you to our website for more information. e.r.a. coalition.org. can go onstreated you our advocacy map. you can see whether or not you are a senator because that will be the next important thing, to see whether or not you are a
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senator -- your senator is a timensor to remove the limit deadline bill. that is coming up in the senate, soon. please do that and thank you so much for your calls, today. , e.r.a.rol jenkins coalition co. president and ceo. we appreciate you being with us, this morning. guest: thank you so much. thank you. judd next up, brandon joins us. he will be talking about the trump administration approach to border security and their meeting today with president trump. ♪ >> this weekend, we are live from the savannah book festival, beginning saturday at 9:00 a.m. eastern . robert wilson on the life of pt barnum. amy title on women in space. his1:30, robert bilotta on
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pulling the strings behind the scenes. that's not true. jack kennedy won the pulitzer prize. he brought up the pulitzer prize. he said i would rather win a pulitzer prize than to be president. because he had this strong desire for literary fame, even though he did not want to do literary work, he got himself the prize. in new york city, in washington, d.c., people have been gossiping, did people really write that book? i wonder how much money they are getting out of the royalty text -- checks. the pulitzer changed the equation. it made it a moral and ethical question. leaders are like this too. when i was at the presidential library, i looked at the letters kennedy was receiving in 19 i seven. librarians -- 1997. librarians and schoolteachers were sending him letters, did you write the book? you wouldn't except if you did not write the book, that is not the right to do. washington journal continues.
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joining us is brandon judd, a border patrol agent. national border patrol council is. guest: we are the organization that represents the interests of border patrol agencies nationwide. we represent them legally and politically in whatever they want us to do. host: how long have you been a border patrol agent? guest: 22 years. host: president trump is meeting with your group. can you tell us what that is expected to be about? guest: he will be talking about what the policies of the administration has implemented to make our job safer and, two and more importantly, what he has been doing the border more secure for the american public. host: you have been a border patrol agent for 22 years. under a lot of administrations, give us a sense of how things
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are under the trump administration, for your organization. guest: if you look at the past administration, we felt demoralized. policiesot -- due to by the agency, we were not allowed to do our job. when that happens, we just don't feel good. everybody wants to feel like they have accomplished something when they go home at the end of the day. we were not feeling that way. under president trump, we feel like we are actually able to secure the border. the policies he has been implement in cabin working. such as the aca. these are policies that he has been negotiating with other countries because congress has not helped. host: looking at the numbers, the apprehensions, the illegal alien apprehensions at the southwest border, 2016, 408,000. it absent when he 17. inrises again -- it dips 2017. it rises in 2018. almost one million
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apprehensions. what's going on. certainhey closed loopholes that were inviting people to cross the border, illegally. they exacerbated the problem. that allowed per minot cartel to recruit people to come to the united states and put themselves in their hand. it allowed criminal cartels to create a huge profit in revenue. when that did not work, president trump went out on his own and he negotiated agreements with mexico, guatemala, honduras and el salvador. these programs have caused an explanation -- exponential drop in illegal immigration. congress refused to work with him. host: what do you think is the thatst misunderstanding americans don't know about the work you have faced on the border? guest: what most people don't understand is -- they believe
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the only people we deal with are either from mexico or central america. that is absolutely not true. we deal with people from all over the country. i, personally, have a resting group of illegal border crossers that were from poland. host: coming from the southwest border. guest: in arizona is where that was. we have been hit with the coronavirus outbreak. we arrested a few chinese in the del rio. two of the three individuals were sick with high fevers and we had to immediately transport them to the hospital. this was a couple of days ago. most people think that all we deal with is people from mexico or central america. we deal with people from all over the world. russia, brazil, china, everywhere. host: has that changed? guest: no. this is what we have seen throughout my entire career. host: tell us about where you
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are stationed. have you been there most of the time? guest: i have moved around a lot. due to what i do, i want a full idea of what is going on at the southwest border, coastal border and northern border. i spent 15 years of my career in northern california and arizona. i spent three years in maine and now i am in montana. i have spent the last five years in montana. in a couple of months, i am moving back to arizona. host: vastly different extremes is on the montana border and the main border and the southwest border. guest: very different. we are just seeing news from yesterday, he is moving money around the headline, at the washington times, the president will take more funds from the pentagon. it will take another $3.8 bordas he wants to get as much construction as
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possible completed before the end of the year. tell us what you see happening in terms of the wall being built. how quickly is that happening? guest: it is being built right now. we have added 100 miles of replacement wall. there is a new wall system that helps secure the border, better. i like to go back to my time in arizona. i worked in a 58 mile stretch of border. we did not have any infrastructure or border barriers, there. we were arresting over 100,000 people in this one, small area, a year. we started building walls and the arrests have dropped down to 10,000 per year. physical barriers in strategic locations absolutely work. you just have to look at anywhere we have built the physical barriers such as san diego, el paso and in arizona. when we have done that, illegal immigration and drugs, that is an important part. drugs have gone down through
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those areas, exponentially. it allows us to dictate where illegal crossings will take place, rather than the criminal cartels dictating to us where they are going to cross. host: the cartels are keeping up the pressure. there was a major tunnel discovered in california and arizona. to go we want them underground. what happens is this costs them a lot of money to do. it is cost prohibitive. if they cannot get their products across very easily, they have to start expending money, which puts a dent into their profits and allows us to go after them with our intelligence department. that is where we always want to be. judd, he isn welcome to your calls and comments. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. .ndependents, (202) 748-8002
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have you ever been in a life-threatening situation? guest: i have. it can be a dangerous job. one thing that i would like to point out is criminal organizations, they are the ones that are going to be dangerous. they try not to harm border patrol agents as much as possible. they know that if they do, there will be a lot of public outcry because of what they have done. there is a lot of pressure. there are sometimes, they absolutely have to go out of their way to give us -- get us out of the picture so they can get their drugs across the border. more are you feeling clinical pressure from washington? are you feeling pressure from republicans and democrats? no.t: when you look at moderate republicans and moderate democrats, they generally tend to agree that we have to secure the border. there is a lot of agreement in that respect. it is when you get to the outliers.
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when you talk about the radical left and the radical right, that is when you start getting into don't make sense, policy wise. the radical right wants us to shut everything down to where nobody comes in legally or illegally. wantadical left just don't border patrol anywhere. neither one of those policies work. it is the middleware republicans and democrats can get along and they agreed that we have to secure the borders. host: have you been down there when members of congress or the president have visited. when they leave, when those members leave those fours, what is your -- tours, what is your general take away? guest: i have sat with president trump when he has gone down to the border. he supports our mission. because of that, the morale goes up, exponentially. when you have members of congress, and i will say her o-cortez,xandria ocasi
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when she says we are concentration camps and we are running a gestapo, morel will go into the tank. she specifically goes after the men and women and that is a huge contrast between president trump, who supports men and women of the border patrol. --t: how the number of border patrol agencies, it has gone up in the last few years. we are constantly in the spotlight. right now, there is almost 20,000 border patrol agents, nationwide. host: there was some military involvement in terms of support for you guys. is that still happening? guest: we still have the national guard at the border. they act behind the scenes. they run our cameras. they help with certain detention facilities, which allows us to free up our agents to secure the
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border. they are a great help. host: do you use the national government because we need to increase the size of border patrol? guest: we don't have enough border patrol agents to put our agents in the field. when they have to be in the processing centers and process individuals or have to run our cameras or monitor sensors, it takes agents out of the field where we need them in the field to control the border. host:host: we will hear from -- host: we will hear from jim, first on the independent line. caller: great job, buddy. when they have that law passed in new york, where they had the lines out of the building, they could have snagged some of these guys. i live where they chopped up some people down the block from me. i can tell you, i am 66 now. 66 years old. i have to call the cops every
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october from april to because the spanish people from south of the border love to blast the music sohost: leesbur. jim on the independent line. caller: i applied your service. i am a veteran. illegal immigration and immigration are number two in my book. you have to take care of this immigration problem. downcomment on shutting the border totally, i wish you could take a pause. the assimilation is not happening. tv.ave 1000 channels on they can sit there and watch spanish tv or korean tv all day long. i am a construction. i could be making a dollar or two an hour. i go on these construction sites. large commercial construction
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sites building homes for these developers. i can speak to maybe one guy in the whole crew. it is ridiculous. unemployment should be zero. every able-bodied man it should be out there working. -- man and woman should be out there working. e-verify should be fully enforced. i can't remember if it is m.i.t. or yale study where they run the numbers. probably over 30 million illegal immigrants in this country. ca? word on the da youru came here illegally, parents have to go home. i will give you a pass on the kids, but the parents have to go home. host: do you want to address this? guest: we have to separate illegal immigration with legal immigration. i don't think there is anybody in the united states that
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disagrees with legal immigration. the vast majority of the united states does not want to see people come here illegally and game the system and get all the benefits. the parents are subject to deportation. daca was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. the parents are subject to deportation. the problem is finding those people that are here in the united states illegally. when we do find those individuals, ice does a great job of doing their portion of work intoting their the immigration debate. host: the change the administration made, the migrant texan protocols. people can -- protection protocols. people come to the borders and they are told to wait in a border town until the case is heard? guest: but used happen, and this was the major problem, there are certain magnets that draw people
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to cross the border illegally. the main magnet was the catch and release program. somebody would cross illegally, claim asylum, get released into the u.s. and never show up for the court appearances. they would do it president obama termed disappearing into the shadows of society. president trump says we have to get rid of that magnet. intonnot release people the united states and not have them show up to the appearances. if somebody comes up and claims asylum, we send them back to mexico pending their asylum proceeding. if they show up to the court proceeding, they have the right to prove they should be allowed to remain in the united states. if they don't have that right, we send them back to their country. host: some pushback related to the violence in the mexican towns. this is to increase access to court hearings. what it is doing is forcing 62,000 plus asylum-seekers to wait in a dangerous conditions
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with no hope they will ever have the opportunity to get a lawyer and virtually impossible chances of winning asylum regardless of the strength of their claims. guest: what frustrates me is just three years ago, if we ever issued -- if the state department issued a travel warning about going to mexico, everybody would be pushing back on that saying mexico is not dangerous. -- mexico ise have extremely dangerous. the mexicans have certified safe towns are perfectly for these migrants to be in their country. frankly you hear a lot of anecdotal evidence or anecdotal stories that there is violence in these mexico towns but there is no actual evidence or physical evidence that the violence is taking place. host: is there evidence one called for the folks are coming back? guest: absolutely.
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we paroled them back into the united states for the hearing. as long as they give us an address or a way we can get a hold of them, we bring all of these individuals that are waiting for asylum back in to have their court appearance before an immigration judge. proof -- this is not a criminal proceeding. the burden of proof is on those individuals to prove they should be allowed to remain. if they can't prove that, they get sent back to their country. host: lancaster, pennsylvania. vince on the republican line. caller: good morning. i wanted to say thank you for job you all do down at the border. if it wasn't for c-span i know a lot of folks, democrat, republican, independent, or plain old americans would probably never get the right story. it would not be spun like the media does.
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whether it is fox or one of the other ones. there are a lot of folks they don't like what is going on. because this new bill trying to be passed with 44 as far ason board folks that have been kicked out, going through the expense of taxpayers and bringing them back and having them tried, basically opening up all the borders. pardon me for not remembering exactly what the law is called. effort and youur can't be discouraged anymore, someone is throwing another pylon you. pile on you.other i want to thank you before you comment. we pray for you. guest: let me address the issue of c-span. i absolutely agree that c-span
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is right down the middle. they look at both sides of the issue. i can personally appreciate that. they don't take up one side or the other. the american public needs that. we need to have an honest conversation. when we have that honest conversation, at least you know the truth is and you can make up your own mind. as far as the bill he is talking about is hr 8353. decriminalizee -- the process of crossing the border illegally. when we talk about the radical left in the radical right, bills get introduced. it will not pass. it has no support. it does not even have the support of the majority of democrats. it is not going to pass. incentivize people to cross the border illegally, if you do that, people are going to
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violate our laws. you cannot incentivize. you cannot reward people for violating our laws. if you do that, they will continue to do that and that is what the bill will do. host: i want to play the comments of the subcommittee chair and the house foreign affairs -- on the house foreign affairs. here is what he said. [video] >> i have long advocated for robust u.s. assistance to help mexico strengthen his democratic institution, combat corruption, defend human rights, and improve security. i believe mexico and united states have a shared responsibility to reduce violent crimes and improve quality of life to those living on both sides of our border. the united states must enact stricter gun laws, dedicate more resources to combating money
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anddering by the cartels, increase investment in programs to reduce domestic demand for illegal drugs. a sincerepect commitment on the mexican side to reduce this violence. host: brandon judd? guest: i have never seen an initiation work more with the mexican government than the trump administration has been doing. the trump administration has been trying to put as much pressure and give us much aid to mexico as possible to try to help with this crisis on the border. as far as guns, mexico has some of the toughest gun laws in the entire world. yet they have one of the highest murder rates due to guns. to say the united states has to place stricter gun laws, i just know somebody from another country should be talking about it. host: where do the cartels get their guns? guest: there are a lot of places. they can get there from china,
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from many different countries. some come from the united states. host: let's hear from jerry from rhode island, independent line. -- democrats line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am a liberal. liberals don't like laws. the democrats have had some great bills obstructed by the republicans that said we need cameras,osts, more more technology, more drones. we should be able to know they are coming and be able to greet them with the proper people. if it is women and children, they get dropped off by the kaylee's. we can bring them -- dropped off by the coyotes. border, locals put in 500 cameras and they stopped the drugs and put them in the ravines in these places. that is what we need to do. a wall is a wall of hate. if you're dropped off by the
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coyotes and you go 100 miles to a wall, you have to decide which way to go. the chance is you are going to die. if you do it with the technology and the other way, it is compassionate and a much better way to go. host: are those human traffickers still as active as they have been in the past? guest: yes. they are more active due to the process -- profits they can generate. what frustrates me is when our policies allow a criminal organization like the cartels to generate billions of dollars of revenue. we should be for legal immigration. we should be for people coming to our ports of entry and presenting themselves and asking for illegal entry. what we should absolutely be against his people crossing our borders illegally. when they do that, they are putting themselves in the hands of very dangerous criminal cartels. they are paying these organizations thousands of dollars each to bring them to
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our borders and smuggle them into the united states. host: you mentioned your experience as a border patrol agent in maine and montana and a lonelier outposts. where there illegal crossings? crossings?re illegal guest: we have it on our northern borders, our coastal borders. we have more on the southwest border because it cost less to come up in mexico than what it does to fly into canada and then cross the northern border. as we do a better job on the southwest border, we can see more illegal immigration of the northern border, which is what we have in seeing. host: ashland, ohio. gary, good morning. caller: i have three questions i would like to ask. ideal one, what is the population of the united states? cost ofwo, what is the illegal immigration to the
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american citizen? number three, what is the cost of legal immigrats to the american citizen? guest: i would love to be able to answer that question but i'm a law enforcement agent. we don't deal with the cost aspect. what i am an expert on his border security and how we can secure our border. those are absolutely good questions and questions that need to be addressed. i'm just not the one to address them. host: when did you get elected? guest: i was just elected again for another term yesterday. i have been the president for the last seven years. host: you balance that? you are a working agent as well? after meeting with president trump it is back to work next week? guest: i spent a great deal of time represent our agents and in uniform patrolling the border. host: mel in salt lake city, utah. democrats line.
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caller: thank you for c-span. trumpoff the bat i know cut legal immigration. there has to be more illegal immigration. you guys have a totally wrong. the one guy that called before me about sensors and cameras, let's go that route. walls are totally not needed nowadays. you guys have got it all wrong. 800,000 people came across with a coyote, i don't think so. effortsll us about what you see daily in terms of technology. what new technologies are being introduced? guest: we have gone the technology route. the last part of the bush administration and the first part of the obama administration enamored with technology.
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technology helps us to tax people. that is what it does. -- helps us detect people. it does not help us apprehend people. it is a mixture. yes, we get enamored with technology. drones flying in the air tells us there people crossing the border. if i don't have the personnel to actually respond to those individuals, there is nothing i can do. you have to have the proper mixture of technology, personnel and infrastructure. togetherose three mesh -- it is pieces of a puzzle. you can't complete a puzzle unless you have all the pieces. technology is one piece of the puzzle and we are working on that. host: on the walls themselves, we have seen pictures of some that have blown down in the breeze. as we are building those walls -- that is not a finished wall.
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yes, some things like that will happen. you put the wall back up. you finish the construction. we have never had a finished wall low down because of wind. host: susan in glenwood, illinois. good morning. caller: good morning. i want to commend you for your service and congratulate you on your another term as president. in illinois and for over arizona, can you tell the american public what would happen if all the wall, all the restrictions on the border were removed? what would happen to our nation as a consequence of the action of the radical left? is if weat i can say
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did not have the border patrol, yes, people would be coming across. we have the laws and the border patrol. as you pointed out we apprehended in 2019 almost one million people that crossed illegally. if you have those laws and a million people are crossing illegally, i would hate to imagine what would happen if we did not have any loss. -- laws. we enforce the laws congress passes. we do not go out and decide what we want to do. all we are there for, law enforcement officers, border or municipal law enforcement enforce the laws passed by whatever authority passes those laws. host: how frustrating is it to see congress failed to pass comprehensive immigration reform over the course of now two decades? guest: it's extremely frustrating. i go back to the immigration
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reform and control act of 1986. the problem was there was a legalization piece and enforcement piece. they gave a legalization piece but did not follow through on the enforcement piece. because i did not follow through, it gave rise to the illegal immigration we saw. because of that we've had to double the border patrol on three separate occasions because of the number of people that were crossing our borders illegally. anytime you intensify -- i will go back to that. if you intensify crime, it is going to take place. we have laws in this country to protect the american public. thatly, it is the laws made this country the greatest nation on earth. if we ignore those laws, we come like any other country. --t: border have pretensions apprehensions drop. the number has dropped for the eighth straight month following crackdowns by the trump
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administration including forcing asylum-seekers back over the border to wait out their claims. 3 if you want to send us a text. jimbo in bakersfield, california. independent. wouldn't it be best to focus on upgrading these locations on the border with a smart wall? your work more effective under trump in previous administer agent? we have to look at the idea that more drugs are crossing at ports of entry than they do between the ports of entry. -- if athe same idea tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, doesn't make a sound? just because you don't detect the drugs that are crossing the border between the ports of entry does not mean they are not crossing. what we can do is we can see how many drugs are in suburban america.
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you know how much is there based upon how many deaths are happening or the arrests. we know not all those drugs are crossing through the ports of entry. they are crossing between the ports of entry. we have a problem in both areas. we absolutely have to increase the enforcement at our ports of entry. te more to divo resources -- devote more resources. -- i will tell you under the trumpet administration morale from a national ports o -- order counsel stand -- national border counsel standpoint it is higher. this president supports the work we do. host: a quick follow-up on drugs coming into the u.s. is that 70 with a backpack on or a tractor-trailer? guest: it depends on what drugs they are bringing across. if it is marijuana, it will be backpacks.
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if they are bringing across it will be inds, smaller containers. they will bring those through with cars to the ports of entry. at a port of entry i can inspect every single person in every single vehicle that comes into the u.s. it does not make sense to bring drug support -- through the ports of entry. if you go i don't have people, i can't inspect. it makes sense the cartels are going to bring the drugs between the ports of entry rather than through the secured locations. ist: the next caller karen in new jersey. caller: good morning. i have a question on the border crossings. see the focus is on people who are brown and black. whonted to know how many
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are not brown or black are crossing the border? what is there apprehension right? guest: it does not matter what color a person is. whether you are from china, whether you're from poland -- i citigroup from poland. it does not -- i arrested a group from poland. we see a camera picture people crossing illegally. when somebody crosses the border illegally, we deploy our agents to the area and we will take those individuals into custody. personally you i have never arrested somebody from africa. there have been arrests. i have personally not. i have arrested people from russia that were white. people from poland that were white. yes, we do deal with the majority -- that what you already -- the majority are from sukkot or central america.
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that is undeniable. it doesn't matter for you are from. if you crossed illegally, we will deploy resources and try to take you into custody. host: what was the story with the group from poland? where did they land? why were they coming to the u.s.? guest: during the processing we have to try to determine that. they will give us a story. the best we could determine if they flew into mexico city and worked for mexico city up to the border. i think it was 2001. host: today higher eight coyote -- did they hire a coyote? guest: nobody crosses without paying criminal cartels. you have to pay to work your way up to the border. host: rodney from maryland, independently. -- independently. line. caller: i wonder why no one
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talks about the real issue in south america. i'm a self-employed mechanic. i repair all kinds of equipment on the construction sites. forklift and bobcat, that kinda stuff. i have been doing this for 22 years. over the years i've had quite a who are mostly from el salvador or guatemala. guys onry rare you find the construction sites from mexico. with, they are building all the houses out there that people are living in. man they tell me the reason they came to the u.s. was because they can't make any money where they come from. yearst know 50, 60 plus we have been allowing american corporations to go south of the
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whatever build their they want to build, factories and stuff. they pay literally five dollars per day. no one can live on five dollars a day. if we have a universal wage and we required american corporations to go south of the border to make their products to pay the same wage they pay in this country, if you can make $20 in el salvador and in american factory, he would have people coming from the u.s. to go there to work. host: brandon judd? guest: i will first address why people are coming here. the vast majority of individuals coming here are coming here to work. they know that there is a lot more opportunity in the united states. so they will come to the united states.
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there are specific driving factors that force people to leave the country. there are specific factors that cause people to cross the border illegally. the main factor is we have the best country in the world, in my opinion. we have more opportunity then you will see throughout the world. people are going to want to come here. we want to see people come here legally, not illegally. host: please ask your guest about the e-verify program and why it does not work. guest: the program does not work similar because it is not being enforced. it is like any law. if you don't enforce a law, it will become a suggestion. if it's a suggestion, people will violated. if i'm driving down the interstate ending of the cops are going to allow me to go 10 miles over the speed limit, i will go 10 miles over the speed limit. i will stay just below with the cops are going to enforce. it is the same thing with any law. if are not enforcing it, people
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will look at it as a suggestion and blow it off. host: donald in kalamazoo, michigan on the republican line. caller: good morning. i have a couple of questions. i would like to say these people who call and talk about how little money they make in mexico and how much we make here, that is true. but five dollars is a lot more money in mexico that it is in united states. a lot more. as far as separating the children, i would like to -- hopefully this meant can tell me about the orphan trains. when we had children running loose like stray dogs in the street that were picked up like stray dogs, shipped out west, southwest, and given away like stray dogs. that is separation. thank you. west: what we saw in 2014 is had this huge problem of unaccompanied minors coming up to the border without parents,
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without any sort of guardian. there was nothing that broke our hearts more than seeing that. you want to talk about misery. when we took people into custody that worked their way up through mexico and they were 3, 4, 5 years old, that will break your heart. that was true misery. that is the idea that we have that if you don't come to united totes, you are not going have the same opportunities. we don't see that anymore because what happens is you deal with issues. he put certain policies in place. we dealt with the issue and we don't see it anymore. host: anthony from staten island, new york on the republican line. caller: there is a reason why foods are not of allowed from different countries ended the united states -- into the data states.
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-- into the united states. certain bugs can cause major damage to crops. there is a coronavirus and other viruses that are now spreading everywhere. how do you control immigration or you don't know who is coming over the border and what kind of viruses or what kind of sicknesses they might be bringing potentially? there is also terrorism. there is also drugs coming in from the border. if you find yourself in the middle of the desert, how do you know you have actually crossed the border? i'm talking about u.s. citizens and mexican citizens, if there is no physical barrier? host: we have not talked about the coronavirus. what has the border patrol been told about keeping an eye on this? guest: we are the first line of defense from allowing viruses to come in or different jesus to
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come into the united states. we have to be vigilant taking individuals in the custody anti-medical screening on these individuals to find out if in fact they are contagious with a certain disease. if we find they are contagious, we immediately transport them to the hospitals to take proper steps. we are the first line of defense, which is one of the reasons is important we do detect at every hand every single person that crosses the border illegally. host: have you or your fellow agents gotten help from viruses, illnesses, diseases -- gotten ill from viruses, illnesses and diseases from immigrants you have arrested? guest: there have been many agents. as we see different illnesses spreading, we deal with that. we dealt with sars and ebola. now you're dealing with -- i think it was a week in africa we arrested two chinese -- we
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agost -- a week and half we arrested two chinese. they were sick. we had to determine whether or not they didn't fact have the coronavirus. we are the front line of defense and have to deal with that. host: scott in new york on the independent line. caller: hello. scott the human. back if you years ago i was living in louisiana. there were five or six illegal aliens i worked with. number one, on the west coast, canada to mexico, marijuana is legal. in mexico it is illegal. have done more damage to the cartels than the dea could think about doing because legal andshould be
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monopolize on it for our country. host: some final thoughts from brandon judd. guest: as far as drugs, we enforce the law. we don't determine what the laws are. if congress determines it is legal, we will not seize marijuana. when he points out certain states have legalized marijuana, all the cartels do is they just transition to another drug that creates more profit. even if you legalize marijuana, it does mean drugs. . they will start smuggling the opioids, the fentanyl. it has increased exponentially. host: brandon judd meeting today with the president at the white house. thank you for being with us. guest: thank you for having me. host: up next, your phone calls. comments on william barr. your calls. (202) 748-8001 for republicans.
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we will be able to begin the real serious discussion which is all the afghans sitting at the table, finding a true reconciliation path forward." iowa. in go ahead. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. andally appreciate c-span mostly unbiased presentation and having caller input. it is nice to hear their perspectives from across the country. e.r.a.lling about the amendment. i was disappointed with ms. je caller comments to the that called in during that segment about the transgenders. biological males competing
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against girls and women in sports. i have that concern as well. i don't think it is fair to women and girls. her response to the caller was a little disheartening. it did not really seem like she had a stand to take about that one way or another. as a matter of fact towards the for herhe call explanation, her comment to the caller, she said it really wasn't an e.r.a. issue. it would be taken up with probably the supreme court. i felt like if this is not an e.r.a. issue, what is? ofhink it goes to the heart people's rights -- equal rights. i found that interesting.
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i really am questioning now what their real motives are. ant: talking about i earlier segment out of the house. the front page of the washington post. the house removes e.r.a. ratification deadline. one obstacle to enactment. in washington, alexander on the democrats line. caller: good morning. i wanted to talk about illegal immigration. my question is what are we going to do about the millions of illegal aliens in the country? proposing anduse what is a government doing about the millions of illegal aliens? i mean individuals who have already received deportation orders from a federal immigration judge. not individuals who have a pending legal status. host: thanks, alexander.
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this weekend on the c-span networks, power cities tour explores -- our cities tour explores amarillo, texas. here is amarillo's mayor talking about the city's impact in the texas panhandle. >> amarillo is in the center of the texas panhandle. we affectionately call ourselves the capital city of the texas panhandle. we are approaching 200,000 people. in the next census we will cross a the 200,000 mark. as i travel around and talk to other mayors, i think our superpower here in the city of amarillo is we think regionally. while we do have geographic boundaries that define how many people live inside our city, we truly don't think that way. we think regionally. we think of the small rural communities.
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they belong to us and we are there city. host: two in this weekend for book tv and american history tv as we travel to amarillo. watch our video and all the cities we have visited. the c-span cities tour is online at c-span.org/citiestour. reed in union, washington. host: -- caller: this is sort of directed at c-span as to why they are not covering it. there has been an issue going on in virginia since the democrats took over that state. virginia is a state that started a revolution way back when the government came for the armories and the guns. that is what lexington and concord and the revolution started. in virginia we have a democratic governor. he is nicknamed "blackface."
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he has been on film dressed in blackface and ku klux klan outfits. the democrats changed the recall rules. used be 10% of the electorate and they gave them eight months to collect signatures. the democrats immediately clamped down and made it 25% of the electorate and one month to collect signatures, which is basically disallowing any recall for the governor. the second amendment rules they are violating, i will not enumerate how many things, but it leaves the public with the only legal ability to donate shooter. shooter.pea it has to be a single shot pistol. on the 14th of last month, there were 22,000 people showed up to demonstrate against it. everyone armed outside the capitol grounds. ar's.lly ar'-- carrying
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not one arrest. it shows democrats they are not violent people. they want to make sure we defend ourselves. there is video on youtube of sheriffs showing up in people's houses, harassing them because they were simply on the capitol grounds, doing nothing wrong. not even armed. the last point is if you look at the counties separating in their state legislators are declaring them section where counties -- sanctuary counties. i hope this does not continue with the democrats trying to go for our guns like the king did back in the founding of the revolution. you will see states separating into new states so we will not be under these tyrannical laws. host: richard in missouri. i was watching your
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program. walls in myly two lifetime i have seen it really worked. one was the berlin wall where the shot people trying to get over. the other one was in north korea. they have a secure border. what the administration we've got, i wonder how long it will be before we have a border like that. we had two soldiers killed overseas. both had hispanic names. somebody's doing something right. they build their houses and pick your fruit. host: jack. valatia, new york. caller: i am from upstate new york. have a lot of sanctuary cities appear. i am wondering when they will actually start to do law enforcement with the federal
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laws and start to imprison people who actually obstruct the enforcement of federal laws in regards to illegal immigrants? host: it is your top public policy issue. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 democrats, and for all others (202) 748-8002. if you're a fan or not of the show, you may be interested in a vox.com piece on our program. it goes back 40 years. c-span'sine is, why quirky call-in show has endured for 40 years. a look at america's on-air town hall. you can find that at vox.com. t. tweeted that ou jen kirby's piece on the call-in
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program. next month marks 41 years of coverage the u.s. house. in october, the 40th anniversary of the first call-in program on this network. we hear from jennifer in florida, independent line. caller: hi. this issue crosses both party lines. i never thought this would be my number one issue but it evolved into that. solar radiation management. i would like to see an open debate in the house, senate, through the networks on whether we want solar radiation management. the spokesman is david keith at harvard. they are putting materials in spraymosphere to ashinum, barium, colefly
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with arsenic in it to block the sun. host: what is the purpose of locking the sun? -- blocking the sun? caller: it is part of the environmental issues of global "warming." they are globally engineering the upper atmosphere because they want to block the sun. they think it's a global warming issue. we are seeing things happening in florida where the rain cycle and everything is totally off. there is a 30% decline in birds. if you google these issues, the new york times has spoken about it. it used to be considered a conspiracy theory. people thought they were contrails. they are these chemical trails that become clouds but they are literally trying to block the sun. it is affecting the insects, the pollination, bees. the information is out there and
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we are paying for this but nobody is talking about it. rhode island has banned it. on boardr states are with it because they think it is going to stop global warming. i am seeing completely negative effects beside the health effects. host: campbellsville, kentucky, brenda on the republican line. caller: my big concern is the drugs in the country. i don't know. i'm sure just about every family in this country is affected. specifically in campbellsville, what is the biggest problem? anyone that is against legalizing marijuana, i feel like they are probably in the drug business. i could not get over what that -- i wanted to talk to the
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president of the border patrol. he said if you legalize the marijuana, they will bring in opioids in the other drugs. that is what is here now. that is the big problem. marijuana, you can't overdose on marijuana. i can't understand why people would not think that would be the best alternative to get these drugs out of here. cousina sweet little that was on drugs. i don't know what she had. they put her in jail. she got out and overdosed. abortionsomen have because that is the right for aeir bodies, but someone has right to, put sending in their bodies like that you get jail time for that. i'm not saying that's ok. i wish she could have gotten
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help. that is a big problem. we have millions of homeless people out there because of these drugs. when i was a teenager, a young woman, i would never have couldn't itody health care. host: we started the program talking about the reaction from attorney general william barr with interview with abc news. he said several things about the president's tweets, etc. they make it impossible for me to do my job. the attorney general, in an unusual break, said the president's habit of injecting himself in a criminal cases has made it impossible for me to do my job. president trump tweeting a response this morning. has never asked
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me to do anything in a criminal case. president trump saying this is not mean i do not have as president illegal right to do so. i do. but i have so far chosen not to." yndle on the independent line. caller: i would like to say to the guy talking about the mexico we have kids from and gangs killing people. they are killing people. don't cut me off. they are killing people. that is because obama let them come in. -- you people that what i want to see people coming over the border, go to mexico. buteeded for the borders, we need somebody to stop this. they are bringing drugs over. they are killing our kids.
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but about the american people that was killed by the cartels? you people need to wake up. republicans and democrats in the house, we need to get rid of all of them. host: bernie from ohio on the independent line. caller: beautiful morning to you. i keep forgetting your first name. host: go ahead with your comment or question. caller: i will try to be brief. i have diarrhea of the mouth. the caller that is called, it blows my mind he does not realize there is less crime amongst the immigrant population then there is in our own population. my number one issue is climate change. i would like to address the issues the fellow the border patrol was talking about. they are always coming through. i would like to ask if it is true of the caravans.
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i think the caravans came so they did not have anything to do with the coyotes. number two, a fellow named john perkins wrote a book. i wish everybody would read that dok and realize if we would a marshall plan for the central american part of this world, we could create a situation where people wouldn't necessarily want to come to this country. when dennis kucinich was running for president, he suggested a department of peace. if we took the money they spend on the wall and protecting our southern border and all the money we spend on 70 things that have to do with the military-industrial complex and directed a fraction of it, a marshall plan for central america -- i have a good friend who is an illegal alien who came her 20 something years ago. he is hard-working.
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he makes plenty of money. he can rent real estate out for people, etc. one of his friends came from mexico and talked. would you rather be here or in your own country? they both said i would rather be in my own country with my own culture. i said, what would keep you there? if we could create an economic situation where we could be there. we need a country of laws instead of a country of men. an economic situation where we can stay in our own country. host: thank you for that. how coverage of the nevada caucuses are starting this weekend. a story related to that, the largest union in nevada, the culinary union declines to endorse a 2020 candidate. nevada's powerful union for not endorse the presidential primary while criticizing bernie
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sanders's signature medicare for all proposal. their calling for choices in health care. they created an opening for pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar, moderate democrats with little demonstrate his support in the state. a number of candidates will speak in las vegas. that is coming up at 11:00 eastern live tomorrow night. , also this weekend it will be joe biden, pete buttigieg, amy klobuchar and tom steyer speaking about infrastructure at a foreman las vegas. -- forum in las vegas. altoona, pennsylvania. nancy isn't up on the democrats line. -- is next up on the democrats line. caller: my issue is long the health care line. to bring thisying
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country together and global peace. it is not to buy hatred. i believe we have more to do on some of the mental health issues to bring about a lot of that because it is not only the illegal alien or illegal people coming in. those people that are causing crimes. the shootings, the hatred that is going on and the cop killing, i believe we have lacked in that wanting to keep the peace as much as we can to know what is important. we have lacked that because what has happened with our leader is not about yourself. it is about the others and caring.
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this has gone by the wayside. mental health issues have not been addressed like a lot of people don't turn to the mental health facilities or they don't have as much access. they turned to the drugs and things like that. we need to get to the bottom of a solution. hatred and what brings about hatred. some of these hateful tweets on facebook and things like that are only arousing it. the truth needs to come out of becausehappening global i have a fear of what might happen in the future if it , talks behind the scenes and we don't know what is going on. host: david is next from south carolina on the republican line. caller: good morning.
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the fact about how foreign influence affects our elections and laws. up.s factual and not made the number of representatives in congress and delegates in the electoral college is based on a population of states and districts. -- ieason democrats presume it is them fostering the idea of sanctuary cities and thank you a states is that regardless of your nationality or how you got here, being present bolsters representatives that affect laws in congress and delegates that affect the general election. that is not talked about very much. another thing i would like to
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share during black history month, if people would look at the civil rights act of 1957 under president eisenhower's attorney general and then -- later president johnson when he was senate majority leader,'s take on it and how he fought it. we don't hear about the acts of 1957 in 1960, only the one that johnson their hero past. c-span is very unbiased, although there is a subtle bias based on the number of guests you have in the number of replays throughout the day. i have counted every show a month. ,t was a strong left bias although with the guests you do a great job. there is a slant based on your programming. host: gop senators throw doubt on fed pick.
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republican senator's delta said back to president trump's nominee when they raise concerns over public savings at a confirmation hearing thursday. lawmakers from both parties said they were uncomfortable with the policy preferences. the former advisor to the presidential campaign advocated for the fed to reduce interest rates in response to rate cuts for other central banks to prevent the u.s. dollar from strengthening the tip to other currencies. "that is a very dangerous path to go down. this is mutual currency devaluation. it is not in our interest." the other senators critical of the nominee, republicans richard shelby of alabama and john kennedy of louisiana. >> c-span is awesome.
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i just want to make some quick points because i know we are short for time. mental health is an issue in this country that we do not have enough funds or and people need to understand that. i think it goes back to the civil war, when the south lost. people do not know how to take that paid you can look at the president, people do things, and he wants to seek retribution. that is petty. we need to grow from that. also i would like to say that voter suppression is an issue that is not discussed enough to. [standby] >> happy valentine's day.
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