proposal for edgy chase as -- for hhs. the house returns for work on several bills, including providing legal services to homeless veterans. on c-span 2, the senate is back to consider additional and executive nominations. in the afternoon, senators vote on whether to move forward with two bills that set new abortion policy standards. on c-span 3, there is another hearing on the president's 2021 actingrequests with homeland secretary chad wolf. coming up on "washington journal, mark hugo lopez from the pew research center talks about the role of latino voters in campaign 2020. also, tom hart with the one campaign joins us to talk about the group's fight against

diseases. docr, reporter jeff moore discusses -- william barr. ♪ ont: good morning, everyone this tuesday, february 25. we begin with the coronavirus after the dow jones chopped -- dropped 1000 points with a spike of cases rattling investor confidence. we have seen the disease spread from china to south korea to iran. what are your concerns with this outbreak? republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-748-8002. you can text us at 202-748-8003 with your first name, city, and state. also on twitter and c-span.org

-- and facebook.com/cspan. there have been more than 80,000 cases worldwide of the coronavirus. deaths, nearly 2700 and 50 -- 53 people in the united states who tested positive. the white house announced they would request 1.8 building in emergency funding from congress and they plan to spend a total of $2.5 billion on the response. the obama administration requested 6 billion for the ebola outbreak. the office of management and budget put out a statement saying the trump administration continues to take the threat of the disease seriously. the administration is transmitting the 2.5 billion

-- and procure much needed equipment and supplies and freeing up existing resources and allowing for flexibilities for response activity. president trump is in india giving a news. we will see if he has anything to say this morning when he takes questions about the coronavirus. let me give you the reaction from capitol hill. nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house immediately skeptical of leadership of the white house and the president say weeks after the trunk budget called for slashing the cdc budget during the coronavirus epidemic, this undersized funding request shows an ongoing failure to understand urgent public health needs. our state and local governments need funding to be ready to

respond effectively to any outbreak in the united states. the president should not be raiding money congress has appropriated for other priorities. the house will swiftly advance a strong, strategic funding package that addresses the scale and seriousness of this global health crisis. chuck schumer put out a statement saying too little, too late. president trump is trying to steal funds debit -- dedicated to fight ebola is indicative of his towering incompetence and further prove he and his administration are not taking the coronavirus crisis as seriously as they need to be. we see no san -- plan president trump has a plan to deal with the spread. we need leadership and we need it fast. diseasecerns about this . caller: i am concerned because

of the level of ignorance that prevails relative to anything scientific including plagues and the republican russian people in congress who believe in killing people by any means and america better wake up because we have a person who is not only incompetent and incapable, but a party going along with anything including setting up to kill themselves and children. we are in a heap of a lot of trouble. what the republicans have done of protectionit we have as human beings in this country. they don't want to believe it. once it starts to hit their children and their parents,

gode they will understand does not play. all bad. news is not they say china may be getting the outbreak under control, the world health organization said the daily tally of infections have been declining because of a lockdown around wuhan. dropped yesterday, european markets and asian markets this morning are rising .nd look like to be rebounding we will go to charles in north carolina, republican. your concerns with the coronavirus outbreak. and the trumpc are get a handle on this. that is good news out of china. we have to continue to monitor.

was talkings caller about republicans are going to kill people, it is the socialist party whose mantra is choice which kills 3300 babies a day. topic.et's stay with the do you have any concerns with this coronavirus upgrade -- outbreak whether they be your 401(k), retirement funds, how the markets are reacting to the virus and how the government tried to quarantine the 53 cases we have in the united states? do you have knowledge they released these people and allowed them to live around the general populace? host: do you have any concerns with them being here? there were members of congress concerned about having these americans on cruise ship's come to their districts and have them

quarantined there. say --n't try to someone is eight districts away, quarantine who is there and the people around them, that is the way it goes. to the point i was making is it hearnd of interesting to 100 people million -- 100 million people die -- all of a -- having the tune of moral outrage and almost sanctimonious statements. host: scott in kansas, democratic caller, concerns with the coronavirus. you., good morning to

kansas, one more try for scott, democratic caller. are you there, scott? go ahead, please. caller: thank you for your show. there was a great book, the great influenza written about 1919 andmic in 1918, it had so much medical information and research that had been developed from the pandemic they called the spanish flu. in actuality, the first doctor that identified the symptoms was the doctor that lived in kansas, which was very surprising. at the time, all those troops were bunched together and shipped overseas to world war i and more people were actually than theom the flu

battlefields of world war i. there is a lot of interesting writings about the great influenza. the point was it was just a hundred years ago and there has been many seminars about the possibility of another pandemic is being prepared for it just a government function. 2018 very disappointed in the current administration had we the amount of countries participated in from 47 down to 10 and that a lot of the educated science doctors left that department. and theith pompeo thiss that kind of ignored potential threat that doesn't care if you are r or d.

think this particular strain is as deadly as the great influenza of 1918, but it is a serious concern. host: take a look at this headline the world health organization says the world is not ready for an outbreak. caller: i agree and countries that are not democratic are at greater risk. you have to have a centralized attack force which would be medical providers and having enough protective equipment, to keep people, clean water, clean sanitation and education. that is the biggest thing. people need to know what they can do to protect themselves and

societies where we get fake news, it is scary because i have never understood people that don't really understand how vaccinations are good and smallpox andes and do not cause autism, you still have people who think that. host: what you say is interesting. the new york times in this story about the world health organization saying the world is not ready for any sort of outbreak, they note after two weeks on the ground in china, a draconianuded the measures china imposed a month ago saved hundreds of thousands of people from infection. such measures sealing off cities, shutting down businesses and schools, ordering people to remain indoors provoked anger in china and could be difficult to replicate in democratic countries with an emphasis on protecting civil liberties.

since january, the chinese government put 760 million people, more than half the population under residential lockdowns of varying strictness. this according to the new york times. that has been the reaction in china. as it spreads here is an interesting story in the new york times about the spread of the disease there. religious pilgrims, migrant workers, soldiers and clerics flow constantly across the front tears often crossing into countries with few border controls, week, ineffective governments and fragile health systems. afghanistan, beran, co. eight, lebanon, the united arab emirates, even one in canada. they have all been traced to iran, sending tremors of fear l to beirut.m kabu the middle east is the perfect aace to spohn a -- spawn

pandemic. the economy has been strangled by sanctions and leaders are isolated for much of the world abouting little clarity the extent of the epidemic. herbert in florida, democratic caller, what do you think? concerned about this? caller: good morning, first of all. thank you, c-span. host: good morning. caller: thank you for bringing us to the light. i don't trust this administration. the facterned because he got rid of the department -- more concerned about the stock market and reelection. i don't think they have enough people in place in this

administration that are professional enough to set up a this ifo take care of it is widespread in the united states. thank you and have a blessed day. host: what are your concerns this morning? caller: my concern was i was listening to the politico report and nancy pelosi's statement and i picked up on some numbers you mentioned, you might want to clarify this. you said president obama allocated $6 billion for the above the virus. host: he requested it. caller: apparently there is a surplus because nancy pelosi was accusing president trump of wanting to draw from that to fail his budget to deal with this crisis. i was wondering perhaps president obama asked for more than he needed. how much did he actually use and

perhaps the criticism of the current president would not be necessary that his $2 billion might be enough hopefully to deal with this. host: do you have confidence the united states will react swiftly if the diseases were to spread further? caller: they have been acting since the beginning by putting up travel bands. i don't know the inch -- intricacies of the cdc. he still has a surplus, so why is there always criticism of the current president? of course i am concerned about this, this is a terrible situation and we should be prepared. i see there have been steps taken. if you could look in your resources to see how much was spent on ebola, i was appalled

people were brought here to be treated in the united states. i thought that was an awful decision to make. i hope everybody is safe from this here and i did not agree with the people coming from the ships being brought here, but they are our citizens and they deserve to be taken care of. world new section of the wall street journal has the headline experimental, that is the key word, experimental vaccine to be tested. a drugmaker shipped the first batch of coronavirus vaccine to the u.s. government. they note if a trial starts as planned in april it would be about three months from vaccine designed to human testing after an outbreak of an older coronavirus. in china in 2000 two, it took 20 months for the testing period to begin. this is the first trial and it might not work, but that is in the wall street journal. reaction from capitol hill and

members of congress, this is what they have been tweeting about over the last few days of their concerns with the coronavirus. ted cruz saying as the spread escalates, the u.s. must take every necessary precaution to protect americans next week. a chairman -- i will hold a hearing on what steps congress can take to contain the disease and you have marco rubio, republican of florida. no reason to believe the coronavirus is contained in china. the numbers releasing our fake. it is there global image. we have no idea what the true numbers are, but they are without a doubt higher than what they admit to. you have senator jeff merkley saying real donald trump thinks he should be allocating more funds to disease control efforts, that is great, i agree completely.

brian of hawaii, a democrat, the trump administration fired the entire pandemic response chain of command. in numerous phone calls and emails, the only consistent response i encountered was distressed confusion. some response from capitol hill. john, we are getting your thoughts on the coronavirus. do you have any concerns? caller: how are you doing? independent, but no one is speaking on the democratic line. i am leaning to the right and -- pandemicsse have been happening for years. -- they ares

preparing. the thing i don't like is democrats and republicans choosing this. factes not change the everybody is using this as a chance for optics. everybody is using this for optics and it is irritating and confusing the american people. unbiased --e only one of the only unbiased sources. i think our government is confusing the american people by one side saying we are prepared and the other side saying all hell is going to break loose. host: gilbert in alabama, passengers come to the state of alabama. caller: good morning to c-span and the nation.

nots quite overwhelmed -- really overwhelmed, but agreed with the people in leadership and alabama elected officials for making an instant stand against it. there is a military term that says sometimes you have to sacrifice the few to save the many and doing what they did in alabama could have saved this nation from an epidemic. -- i have been keeping up with this issue in the wall street journal and bloomberg news and see spurn -- done isnd what this has exposed america's manufacturing base and everything about this country and how we have become so dependent on nations like china. i heard just yesterday that have been it --

we have been getting our penicillin from places like china. we are all about medicines. anare on the verge of economic collapse in this country and around the world because we have been overly dependent on china. measures the draconian that have taken place in china even though they look draconian to the world, they are necessary to stop this thing and in america, the measures we take in alabama a couple of days back, it might seem draconian to some, but i don't want it 60 miles from me. a lot of people like to beat down trump, but had the numeral for president before this, clinton, bush, and obama had not been asleep at the wheel, we would not be tied up and linked

up with china. host: here is what president trump had to say about the coronavirus. [video clip] >> you may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well .nder control in our country we have very few people with it and the people that have it -- i have not heard anything other. i have not been seeing very much news because it has been all-encompassing. better.le are getting we brought in some americans from a ship because it was right thing to do because they are in quarantine and we think they in quarantine. we actually discussed the

coronavirus and at this moment, -- india does not have much of a problem we feel. i think that whole situation will start working out. a lot of talent, brainpower being put behind it. $2.5 billion we are putting in. i see chuck schumer criticized it. these characters, it is not good for our host: country. ast:president trump holding news conference in india. -- forgivethe video the technical difficulties, but the president saying he has committed that money and calling democrats for their criticism of them.

passengersbout those on cruise ship's. the senator from alabama tweeted out recently a phone call he had with the president saying he got off the phone with the president and told him his administration will not be sending any victims from the diamond princess cruise ship to alabama. thank you for working with us to ensure the safety of all alabamians and mike rogers, congressman and republican saying earlier this evening i spoke with donald trump and he agreed the decision by the varmint of health and human services to household americans exposed to coronavirus is the wrong decision. back story on this from the washington post, trump grew over allowingious them to return to united states from japan after being assured infected patients would remain in the current teen --

quarantine over seas. he became irate after learning they plan to house them at an alabama facility despite protests, including mike rogers. it was really poorly handled, adding the president used colorful language to express displeasure during a call from air force 1. the president told us somebody is going to get fired over this, but i don't know who. secretary of health and human services will be on capitol hill today and he will be testifying before a senate appropriations subcommittee. we will have live coverage at 10:30 a.m. eastern time on c-span right here, c-span.org or you can download the radio app

and listen. also testifying on capitol hill is the acting homeland security secretary chad wolf. he will be before -- he will be 2021 budgett the request, but likely getting asked about coronavirus as well and what the homeland security department will do about it at 10:00 a.m. eastern. on c-span 3, you can watch on our website and you can download the radio app to listen along if you are out and about today. back to your concerns about the coronavirus. let's go to ray in elizabeth city. thank you for taking my call. this is an opportunity for everybody to get together and rally. partiespoint, political

do not matter because the virus affects everyone. we should use every resource in this nation to find a cure and we need to rally as americans to get this taken care of. host: floyd in virginia, republican. good morning, your concerns. taking ournk you for call. it seemed like when you were reading the new york times they want to trust -- want us to trust in the new york times to take care of them and they have nothing to do with it. people need to be trusting in god. he gave us his word to go by and there will be -- people talk about global warming. we had it first when the dinosaurs were here. one now and there

will be a third one. i wish people would learn god's word, they would know that. name. a wordey would learn god's and trust in him and pray to god for healing for this nation, things would change and we would be healed from diseases. god will take care of us. host: donald in michigan, democratic caller. caller: good morning, greta. good morning american people. i am surprised republicans have not blamed this coronavirus on democrats or nancy pelosi somehow. i hope president trump listens to some smarter people than gets theround him and

to theoney allocated .ight departments maybe this is something that can bring both parties together to solve this problem. host: what is your confidence level of that? caller: my confidence level in president trump is zero, but the other congressmen, the senators and professional doctors we have in this country, i think they will pull together and figure something out. with their professionalism, they will get together. god bless america and god bless this country. thank you for taking my call. good morning. i have a concern from a health care perspective. i am a teacher in broward

county. i know how people are. two thirds of the people down here are hard-working people. we can barely afford our insurance. from a health care perspective, someone comes into south florida with coronavirus, you will see a mass epidemic because people will not go to the doctor because we cannot afford our co-pay, premiums. myco-pay is separate from deductible. $5,000,be spending $6,000 before anybody could get a blood test. we are living in a time where people are more worried about saving every single penny with health care that no one is going to the doctor for the simple things. i am concerned about that from that perspective, especially working with kids. one kid who gets exposed, south florida is going to get wiped

out. host: heather winchester on facebook echoes your concerns. people with minimal health insurance, no funds for co-pays and the expectations you go to work either you are sick or not, high volumes of homeless in cities without proper sanitation. hey current administration is not equipped to deal with a pandemic. the wall street journal focuses marketseaction from the with an editorial headline that reads a market pandemic and they write china accounts for a third of global trade, about 10 times more than during the sars epidemic. shiftedufacturers have production in many years amid trade uncertainty and light -- rising labor cost. it remains a linchpin. ddpepidemic could cause the

to shrink up to 10% year-over-year in the first quarter. the good news is the u.s. economy has a sturdy foundation and low unemployment and robust consumer spending. the treasury secretary went on cbc yesterday to address concerns of investors. [video clip] >> i think it is too early to predict. based on what we see, this will be manageable, but the situation can change. in another three or four weeks, we will have much better data. i think president trump did all the right things in the u.s. in terms of reacting early and that was prudent. i don't think people should be at the point where they are panicked. it is concerning. this wille who get survive it.

since it will travel and the real impact is how many people does this impact in terms of death rate. int: the new york times their headline -- officials at the federal reserve and within the trump administration are watching the situation closely although the central bank's main tool for stroking growth might not help much if factories are not producing goods and supply chains are disrupted by quarantines. central bank officials have been clear they did not expect to cut interest rates again unless rising risk upends the outlook for stable growth. they have cautiously suggested there was no need to sound any alarm. that was before the spike in infections outside china over the weekend. as you all know, they have seen iran,in south korea and

death nearing 2700 at this point and 53 confirmed cases in the united states. we are getting your concerns this morning. linda in tennessee, democratic caller, go ahead. daughter whoe a works in the california health care system. before the coronavirus had even, on the stage, she had voiced her frustration, how her hospital was in such low supplies of certain things and she was not feeling confident about how even that hospital was dealing with procedures and equipment and how they maintain things. she just told me her hospital was cleared for accepting coronavirus patients. there is no way her hospital should have been cleared for that.

it doesn't meet any standards to her mind for a normal situation. she is quite upset and now they have confirmed -- she has confirmed there is one patient in the hospital. i have a daughter working in the inlth care system that is disarray at least in her area and has put all those health care workers at risk and this government. i just watched trump talking in india about how we have got it all in control. president.otic distressed in his administration and we are seeing the fallout. up.ink people, wake we have to cut our losses from this administration. get them out of there before

november, if we could. host: let me ask about your daughter and do you know how her hospital was cleared? what is the process to clear a hospital to take a coronavirus patient? host: -- caller: very minimal need to know information, so tore is no explanation as what standards they use or why. one of the commentary coming out is that donald trump has it in liberalfornia, being a state and he doesn't like california, so may it -- he is may be shipping them there. it is sort of something you almost can believe that this administration could or would do. host: how is your daughter preparing to go to work every day? no leave ofe is

absence provisions, she is not part of a union, so i don't know what kind of advice they would give her anyway, but it is really kind of hit or miss an thatof like pray to god she gets through this. in nashville, her daughter working at a hospital that has been cleared for coronavirus patients. your concerns with the coronavirus. caller: good morning, greta. good morning, america. this can really get out of control. i am thinking that pandemic health care plan trump -- obama had, trump killed it and he will need it. it had a group of disease

specialists from all over the world. trump killed everything obama did and he did not even look to see what he could use and what he could not. i am thinking he is jealous. hung up on his election and the economy and i have no pity for those corporations that moved everything to china. they can lose their last dime and i would not be sorry for them because they left us abandoned, they unemployed america. they took everything to china to make the most money they can. way of working all of this out. host: the washington post plunging markets heighten political risk for president trump, national security advisor

robert o'brien discussed possible options for global coalitions and outreach with other senior white house officials. according to white house officials and a veteran republican who has been briefed on deliberations, one option includes having the president call for a u.n. security council meeting to force china to share more information about the outbreak which began in december and quickly spread from the world's most populist nation. no decisions have been made about whether trump will ratchet up pressure on china or cloak -- global groups in the coming days . recently we covered an event a doctor at the centers for disease control, the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases and here is what he had to say about coronavirus compares to other outbreaks. [video clip] >> it is highly transmissible.

sars was less transmissible, but to 10%.rtality of 9% seasonal flu is very transitional and has a mortality of .1%. the pandemics we in our lifetime experience, 1957, 1968 and 2009 have a mortality of 1.3, one .4, 1.6. the pandemic of 1918 had a .ortality just shy of 2% therefore, where do we stand now? we have a highly transmissible virus that has a calculated of 2%, but there is no doubt it is lower than that and the reason it is lower is because the only things we are counting are people who come to the attention of health care

providers which means inevitably there will be multifold more people who have no or minimal symptoms and they don't get counted. with a furiously small denominator when the denominator increases, you are going to probably have a mortality of about 1% or less, which means if it continues to evolve into what we hope it does not, namely a pandemic flu, it will be like a very, very bad flu season or moderately bad pandemic season. host: how the coronavirus compares to other outbreaks. members of congress will be getting a briefing this morning at 8:00 a.m. eastern time by trump administration officials on their response and preparedness for coronavirus. we will watch that this morning

as we go along with the washington journal. your concerns about the coronavirus outbreak. members of congress have been tweeting their concerns. senator hawley saying -- after reports of drug shortages in the wake of the coronavirus, he was quoted saying it has become clear we need oversight hearings and additional legislation to protect our medical supply chain and disentangle it from china. you also have senator tom cotton , look at that, the chinese communist party's propaganda rag admits it did not start in the wuhan market. where did it start? you have val demings of florida, fast action is vital to stopping a pandemic, but the trump administration is mired in

dysfunction, hoping coronavirus will burn itself out. in the absence of leadership, bad things happen. jan, democrat of california saying today i let -- lead 45 of my colleagues to demand president trump ensures any coronavirus vaccine or treatment is accessible and affordable. that goal cannot be met if big pharma sets prices and determines distribution, putting profits over public health. your concerns. rick in new york, republican. historically, people talked about 1918 and world war i, george washington was the first american that ever inoculated his troops, which is why we inoculate our children today because the british were infecting our troops with -- not

influenza, i cannot -- it does not come to me meant -- come to me now. i don't know and i agree with the thought this does not come from a chinese food market. i think it has a lot to do with controlling the stock market. trump was putting good sanctions on china to help our country and now this virus comes out, the stock market plunged 1000 points or 100 points yesterday alone and people are in a panic due to that and as far as the spread of this disease, january 1 i told everybody i know close the borders state by state, county by county because we do not want it here and our government decides to allow five major airports in five of the largest cities in our country to allow these people to be thrown into laguardia, chicago, a major

hawaii, lax, and i cannot come up with the fifth one. all these are major cities where you have more employees to infect by contact that will not be subject to quarantine or checking. they will contact everything and go home at the end of their shift and spread that throughout their community. you spread that in new york city and two or three people get away and spread in the street, multiply those people by a factor of 4 overtime exponentially and you end up with close to 1000 people in short order. it is time to overreact with you canonavirus and never be too cautious. apologize later. close the doors now. that is my thought. host: close our doors to

americans, even? who are testing positive? beler: i think they need to quarantined in a better fashion than just -- if those americans left and went overseas and put themselves at risk after they were aware of this, i apologize, why should my family be at risk? i live in the states, i work in the states. people travel abroad, they make big money, that is risk and reward. why should my family or your family be at risk because they go to china and work at these big companies and come back? that is risk and reward. why should the rest of the american people be subject to this because you want to leave this beautiful country? that is my thought.

control it somehow. host: the dow dove yesterday 1000 points, that is the headline in usa today. this is from a couple hours ago, market watch.com -- marketwatch.com. european stocks edge lower after monday's pounding over the coronavirus spreads. the new york times closer to 7:00 a.m. this morning said the european markets were starting to rise. we will have to see how markets react in the united states and around the world this morning to this coronavirus. your in minnesota, concern. how many want to know people died this year from the united states -- in the united states from the flu who did not get shot. i am curious comparing, you can get a shot and people do not get it. if they do a vaccine, is

everybody going to get a shot? probably not. host: charlotte in houston, texas. caller: let's keep the politics out of this nonsense. his anybody checking the illegals coming across the border? no. they can bring it in because we check her. this woman whose daughter is working at the hospital, why are you blaming it on trump? who gave permission? the state, not president trump. quit playing this lame game. get to taking care of the virus and finding a cure and quit blaming one another. ian bremmer, a foreign policy reporter tweeting the iran deputy health minister tested positive for coronavirus a day after clearly unwell in

public press conference. iran nowhere close to be able to handle outbreak or their borders and for those joining us, shared an article with you earlier this morning about the outbreak in the middle east, with the situation there, they note in the new york times that that area is a recipe for massive viral outbreak. religious pilgrims, migrant workers, businessmen, soldiers, all flow constantly across iran's border. the middle east is the perfect place to spawn a pandemic with circulation of pilgrims and muslim workers. it's people have lost trust in their government and their leaders are isolated from much of the world providing little clarity about the extent of the epidemic. civil wars or years of unrest have shadowed the health systems of several neighboring countries

like syria, iraq, afghanistan, and yemen and most of the region is governed by authoritarians with poor track records of providing public transparency. bernard in california, independent. good morning. my statement is this, this is a lesson to be learned because what is happening in italy, i have seen the store shelves were empty, that can happen here, too. these people better realize we all need one another and i was listening, you said trump might go to the united nations to get information from china and i am he was sayinge the united nations were obsolete and you don't need them. i am thinking listening to what you said i said wow, you mean

the big bad wolf needs little red riding hood now? he is the one who said he will down theybody's house likes of which you have never need -- never seen before. that is what i mean by treating people decent and humanely, you never know who you might need in this life. host: that was reporting in the .ashington post by robert costa that is reporting by those two in the washington post, that that is one of the options. somet o'brien has told white house officials as well as republicans that is being discussed at the white house. tony in georgia. good morning. caller: i was watching president press conference this

morning from india and the he has i have is because been so untrustworthy in the past, people do not know whether he is telling the truth or not and i was watching the reports about the stock market and the stock market a lot of time response to perceived threats, not the effect of the real threat. if the lack of trustworthy leadership might backfire on trump because he has told so many questionable things in the past. host: i want to share with our viewers -- one of the callers mentioned how many deaths there have been from the flu. this information from the cdc with the headline influenza deaths second highest on record. it also notes there have been 29 280,000flu illnesses,

hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from influenza this season according to cdc estimates. republican.as, caller: good morning. i am so tired of listening to hing about president trump. can, doing everything he he is trying to keep a low -- even keel on this. the more you gripe and tear him exposed to this just as you are and i am. as the one woman said, let him handle it and let his people handle it. thank you. host: more reaction from our

viewers on social media. michelle on facebook, the panic, cruelty, and racial abuse that will be inflicted on anyone with the sniffle allergies due to ignorance. i am sure kinda -- china is lying about the seriousness. i am sure this administration is not prepared to deal with it. yes, i am concerned this administration is not taking the risk seriously. not prepared. are china -- trump said the world -- the warm weather would take care of it. wendy on facebook as well, media hype to create panic and fear, just compare flu deaths is what wendy has to say. onwill do one more, karen facebook, when one uninsured person has flu, they do not get treatment. america will see how unjust

health is. jacob in florida, what are your concerns? are themy comments coronavirus, i see it spreading a lot and there is not a lot of things -- they are still coming across and there should be more scrutinizing checks at the airport. if people are coming from the outbreak area, they should be setting up places they can quarantine like at heathrow, they have a hotel they closed down and they are putting all the people they suspect with the coronavirus at heathrow. i am reading the location where they are monitoring, they have the map up showing the location of the monitoring like they are monitoring folks in florida possibly exposed and there is monitoring going on like in georgia, 200 million people are being monitored.

it is not being talked about a whole lot, but there should be more procedures set up at the airport. homethey are at self-monitoring themselves, there is no checkups. if they get sick like that person sick with the coronavirus people,ublic exposing there are not really checks. once they are in, there is no follow-up to see if they are maintaining the quarantine at their home or where they are at. if they are over there in china exposed and they see more --cedures set up and come in more stricter were in teens -- quarantines. and talk about the spanish flu in 1918, airplanes were not invented and there were no

airplanes in 1918 and they talk about how bad the spanish flu is. new york is a global city and there has to be more checks and pandemicbecause of the it is causing. host: richard in hawaii. caller: i have a question. if this coronavirus is all that bad. why doesn't the health department come down on all the bathrooms -- fast food theaurants and malls, all waters might be -- i thought that was supposed to be super important. host: the cdc has talked about the importance of washing your hands with any sort of diseases with the flu season, etc.. caller: why don't they go to all

the restaurants, mcdonald's, and test the sinks. i have seen a lot of times there is shutap, the water off or there is no hot water. host: remi and marilyn, good morning. maryland, good morning. caller: i wanted to do a follow-up of something concerning to me. i don't care where you go to try to find information about the whonavirus and the people have contracted this, i have yet to hear of one case where they have actually had a person go through the virus and no longer have it. we are not getting that information that i can find anywhere. host: who have been treated and survived? caller: correct. host: i would assume there have been 80,000 cases of it and

there are 2600 -- nearly 2700 reported deaths. it does sound like there have been survivors. caller: that is what we are not hearing about. host: that is your concern? caller: that is my main concern. host: at 8:00 a.m. eastern time in a minute, the members of congress on capitol hill are supposed to be getting a briefing from trump administration officials about what they are doing about coronavirus. coming up, we will be joined by mark hugo lopez about the role the latino vote will play in campaign 2020 especially as the campaigns focus on super tuesday and tom hart joins us to talk about efforts to fight against global poverty and

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latino vote in campaign 2020. thank you for being here. how many latino voters will be eligible to vote in 2020? and compare that with the last cycle. guest: up from 27 and a half million in 2016. it has grown to over 4 million since 2016. that has been the pattern over the last election cycles. an additional 4 million became additional voters. those who a shout and those who have naturalized and became have aged- those who out and those who have naturalized and became citizens. they how does it work if

were not born here? guest: in the latino population, you have many who hold a green card. members of the u.s. population. many,s interesting is they have been here 20 years and not applied to become a citizen. it is expensive and it can come over $700 and the price is about to go up. we see about one million latinos between election cycles become able to vote through naturalization. host: what are some of the most important issues? guest: traditional it has been education and health care. there is strong support among latinos for raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. many latinos want some health

care system that is provided by the federal government. when it comes to issues like how big the government should be, latinos support a eager government providing more services. in the case of immigration and a path leading to citizenship and support for dreamers, those are goals that many want to see as part of policy. host: how mobilized and motivated our latino voters to get out and vote? guest: traditionally they have voted at rates much lower than what you see for whites and blacks in 2016, 37 .5% of eligible latino voters turned out. whites, twon, among thirds of white eligible voters turned out to vote. it is 15% to 20% gap depending on the election. this year remains to see what will happen.

many latinos on the democratic side are happy with the candidates running and also we when youd in december ask latino democrats, do you know when the primary or caucus will be, they said they didn't know. that was in december before things got going and things might be different if we did it today. that is true of the general public as well. latinos have lagged in terms of motivation. 2016 was unique. there was a surge among latinos but all americans. latino voting reach presidential levels. host: we want to hear from latino voters. is for latinos. others is how we will also start. we want to hear what latino

issues you are concerned about and how motivated you are to vote in here from all others. .our line is (202) 748-8001 doing of the percentage of latino democrats versus republicans? guest: it has linked to party affiliation for quite some time. -- 65% say they are either democrats are leaning -- or are leaning towards democrats. both have been stable in recent years. the hispanic vote tends to lean toward democrats. in 2016 and 2012, democratic presidential candidate obama and clinton won substantial shares from the latino vote, upwards of

75% to 80%. host: what issues do republicans talk about that appeal to latino voters versus democrats? guest: and the republicans, you talk about issues like abortion and in the latino adult population, about 25% will say they are evangelical christians or born-again christians and that is an important part of the electric generally -- electorate, generally speaking. democrats talk about education and a pathway to citizenship and also talking about jobs, economy, minimum wage. it depends on the candidate and location but generally speaking that is what we are seeing happen. host: in the data caucuses, you saw -- in the nevada caucuses, you saw bernie sanders win, what were the takeaways?

guest: it was interesting to see how strong support for bernie sanders was among latinos in nevada. that speaks to the presence of latinos in nevada and they are 19% of eligible voters in nevada. turnout,s suggest the while on par with the last presidential election, are somewhat higher in 20 but remains below 2008 levels, despite the fact the state has seen growth in the population. it is interesting to see the support for different candidates but not sure where turnout was. host: why does bernie sanders appeal to latino voters? guest: probably because of the youth. he has appealed to young voters and particularly in the latinos. that is a key part. we are seeing young latinos

attend college. so issues around college affordability is another issue. also on the issue of immigration. that is another issues the sanders campaign has talked about and also health care has been a big concern for latinos for a number of years. they are more likely to not have insurance than other americans. host: in the pew research seven out of 10 say the government is responsible for ensuring all americans have health care coverage. so universal health care, and care for all would appeal to them. guest: that is correct. again, so many don't have health insurance. 15% to 17% in the most recent statistics don't have coverage. host: we will go to fred in maryland. good morning. caller: you are missing the point on this. americansal hispanic

want rules and laws and they come to get away from the socialist countries that have dictatorships with no laws and no jobs. for the most part they will support president trump because at least he is trying to do something. i live in maryland and there are a lot of undocumented immigrants crossed over illegally. they have broken federal laws. in the state of maryland, they are forcing us residents to supply a birth certificate, social security and three pieces of information to show proof of where we live. dmv foreen in maryland 36 years and i still had to prove who i was and where i live. the democrats in maryland have passed a law where they have given illegals a waiver to get a drivers license. all you need to vote in maryland is a drivers license. that is what it comes down to with the open borders. it will come to a head in the election time.

how do those who crossed over illegally feel about those? guest: it is important to note about the latino vote and it is a diverse electorate. it is one that has people from many different parts of latin america. looking at the state of florida, there are many latinos who are either of cuban origin, colombian, nicaraguan, and issues around immigration are important questions, but in a different way than other parts of the u.s. conversation is illegal immigration and policy towards cuba and people coming from cuba. in regards to the latino vote, it is quite diverse in its viewpoint. when you take a look at who president trump w5% to 28% of the vote --

vote% to 28% of the according to the exit polls. that is an indication of how diverse it is and not all feel the same about policy issues across the country. imprecationse the about senator sanders' comments about castro? guest: it remains to be seen. through 2008 and 2012 and into 2016, it seemed the vote for latino in florida was leaning towards democrat candidates. in 2016, trump won more than half the latino vote in florida, which was a reversal of many years. viewers,t to remind here is what senator sanders said about fidel castro. [video clip] the 1980's, president sanders had something to say about sandinistas in nicaragua.

he is explaining why the cuban people didn't rise up and help the u.s. overthrown cuban leader fidel castro. >> he gave them health care and transform the society. you can't sibling say everything is bad. when fidel -- you can't simply say everything is bad. when fidel castro came in he had a massive literally program. is that bad? what do you think? guest: this is been a challenge for some politicians for some years, the way in which they talk about the relationship with cuba. the cuban vote has been much more republican than you have seen with other groups of hispanics. it is interesting some of the reaction in florida is not meant among cuban-americans but among nicaraguans. from,has been a reaction

others. host: what are the comments? senator sanders may have made comments that are insensitive especially for people who had to those countries for various reasons and florida. host: what percentage of latino population that can vote is made up of central american countries? guest: they make up a relatively small share. million,look at the 32 about 55% are of mexican origin. another 12% are puerto rican. then you get percentages for cubans that might be free .5% to 4% -- 3.5% or 4%. percentage may be about 2%. host: we are talking about the impact of the latino vote.

n, a latino voter, good morning to you. caller: thank you for bringing this up. i have been in the u.s. for 30 years and it cost me a lot to get my green card and citizenship. and republicans especially who listen to rush limbaugh or fox news think that people are just crossing and getting drivers vote.e's to it is nonsense it is not true. it takes a lot to become a u.s. citizen to vote. course,ately, of latinos are going to lean pastds democrats but it is -- in the past 10 years the democrats have promised so much to latinos, making people who

have been living in this country for over 20 years, making them a resident to have their legal papers, but nothing happened, unfortunately. on the other hand, the republicans are fighting against it. they don't want the dreamers who have been living most of their lives here and contribute in this country and working hard, they don't want them to be citizens. unfortunately, anytime the , what is thed problem, latinos. i don't know, as foreign people we come to the country and work. i have been working very hard and i abide by the rules. gettinge to start information through google and internet or find the real facts. -- theynk that latinos

think they are abusing the system. in any other society, there are a few rotten people. most of them are hard-working. they pay taxes matter what job they do. some of them are not even collecting them. this is a call for everybody. i am not against republicans or democrats or anybody, but open your eyes and really understand the situation that we latinos like this country and work for this country. morenk winter -- deserve -- i think we deserve a better life. view ofhe public's latinos has changed. we have seen a change in those who feel that immigrants strengthen the united states. today, 62% of u.s. adults say that. back in the 1990's, only 35% of u.s. adults would say that.

this is a complete reversal in opinions. we have seen the general public seeing the growing diversity of the country as something of strength which is a contrast in other countries around the world and europe and asia where views not quite the same as they are here in the u.s.. it is important to know that when you talk about immigrants in the u.s., latinos make up a significant share of the immigrant population and a significant part of the latino population are in the country legally. not everyone is unauthorized or undocumented. most are in the u.s. legally and a significant share our legal. host: we will go to mark. caller: i would like to make a few points. one has been discussing what bernie has been talking about as far as fidel castro.

i need to make a point about this. i am not a bernie supporter but this has stuck in my craw. p before castro was a man by the named of bat utista. he was a united states puppet and was placed in cuba to do the work for the united states government. rose up andople decided to oust him and install fidel castro. as far as unconcerned, that is their business. if that is what they wanted and that is what they got, then so be it. as far as the cuban exiles, maybe they left because they ausista.d b

i don't know how latinos can support a man who starts his election campaign by saying, mexicans are rapists and drug dealers, right from the get-go. i don't understand that, because i don't truly believe he was just speaking about mexicans. i believe it was a blanket statement for all latinos. anyone understand how would want to support a man who starts his campaign with that kind of statement. host: ok, got it. guest: the latino vote is diverse in its support for republicans and democrats, and a significant share, not a majority, have leaned toward the publican party. when you take a look at trump approval, one thing among latinos is while 70% disapprove

of the weight the president is handling his job -- of the way the president is handling his job, the majority of the tina were publican say his performance -- the majority of the republicans say his performance is doing well. it speaks to the diversity of the electorate and not all are mexican origin or immigrants, let alone the children of immigrant parents. it's weeks to the diversity of the demographics and politics of the group. host: in which states other concentrations of latino voters and where in which states are they on the rise? guest: the single most is california with 7 million hispanics eligible to vote, followed by texas and together they make up 45% of the entire eligible voter population. that is important because super tuesday is coming up and both have primaries.

some states, like nevada, about 20% of eligible voters are latino. in florida, it is one quarter. the share has been rising over the course of the last couple of decades. in new mexico, you find that latinos, while there are not as many in california or florida, 43% of eligible voters are hispanic, the highest share across the country. host: according to research, 309,000 eligible voters, the highest of any congressional district in the country. districts round out the top five each with 320 1000 latino eligible voters. guest: that is in texas along the border which has high concentrations of latino populations and south florida is a place that has long had a very

large hispanic population. host: we will go to franklin in kentucky. today? how are you i appreciate you taking my call. i respect senator sanders very much, but i think he is not giving the full, informed opinion of what is taking place as far as education in cuba. in the early 1970's, i sat alongside a student in electronics class that he had escaped from cuba. he was an engineer. his dad was a doctor and his mom was a doctor and his sister was an engineer. agestatement was this, at 14, if you were making good grades in school, he stayed in school. if you are not up to it they considered a good grade, you

were forced to go into the military. in this boy's family, entire family, had escaped from cuba and he was living in costa rica. school, bute a there were stipulations and it wasn't like what we think about a school here in the united states. theys forced on them and were taken from their families at age 14, either to go into higher education or into the military. so that is something that does need to be put out to where everybody can have a full understanding and i wish senator sanders would kindly take a look at this and give the complete story on it. mark hugo lopez? thet: a wave started in

1960's after the revolution that happened in cuba, but also subsequent waves in the early 1970's and then the 1980's. there continued to be through the 2000s a growing number of migrants coming from cuba to the united states, because of the wet foot-dry foot policy which opened the door to a pathway of citizenship for those who could make it. there pathway to citizenship is different than for other groups of immigrants. the obama administration shut down that policy, but it has subsequently reemerged around -- under the trump administration and there has been a flow in recent years, many of whom who have been coming to the u.s. for education but economic reasons. .c. in california, a latino voter. caller: good morning.

i enjoy the show and it is very informative. say, recently one caller said they don't understand why some mexican-latino people are supporting --, it doesn't make a lot of sense of separating families and children and all of that. but the truth is, a lot of the behindpeople who are out , people like andrea because you cortez and bernie sanders -- andrea because they'll cortez ocasio cortez and bernie sanders because a lot of us

worked hard. for those of us who play by the rules, we are winning. we are not getting anything in return for having him around and he is enforcing security for the border. even the richest people put up a fence or wall to protect themselves. a lot of people railing around and may be entrepreneurs getting tax breaks and such. host: mr. lopez? guest: we found that the latinos have been opposed to the expansion of the u.s.-mexico border wall that the president has proposed and the government has been expanding. we have found that half of latinos say border security should be one of those goals for

immigration policy. not like a pathway of citizenship for undocumented, but half of latinos say it should be a policy goal for u.s. immigration policy. host: when you go to vote, as any voter does, is it possible that latino voters or what have the studies shown that there are illegal latino voters actually getting to vote? that is interesting because there are policies around the country that allow undocumented immigrants to vote in local elections. there is not a lot of evidence that suggests undocumented immigrants are voting in large areas in elections. in in some places like maryland, parents of children in the local school system, u.s.-born children, parents are undocumented can vote in local

elections. san francisco recently allowed this as well around the school board elections. host: we were talking about the states where there was the largest population of voters and we talked about texas, where there are seven in 10 eligible voters. latinos represent half of eligible voters in 26 congressional districts, most in california, texas, florida, arizona, new york, also illinois. guest: illinois has long had a growing population particularly in the chicago area but this has been an area growing since the 1950's, as there connections between mexico and opportunities for jobs in the chicago area. host: going to tampa, florida. caller: when it comes to the mattervote, it doesn't whether it comes to voting for president, due to the fact that

if an individual vote doesn't count because the electrical college-- electoral picks the president. now it is the latino this and that, but before barack obama it was the black vote this and that in all of the sudden when the republicans wanted to make sure , theyould lock in a win would show tapes of black men doing this and that. now it is the latino, they are coming to get your job. x, theyinto publi installed self checkers. they are not latinos. that is what is taking the jobs, not the latinos. both parties are just corrupt to the core. guest: we take a look at how latinos see both of the parties,

we find the share that say the democratic party has more concern for the latino population and the republican party, they say it has been declining in 2/3 they used to say and now it is half of latinos who used to say that. the sheriff saying republicans care more is around 10% over the course of the last 15 plus years. the one category that is growing is that there are some who say there is no difference to 1/3 today saying there is no difference between the two party when it comes to concern for the hispanic party. host: to a passive texas, good morning. texas, goodo morning. caller: we cannot forget about the fast news cycles of what happened august 3, 20 19 in el paso, texas at the walmart.

and the fact that person was enabled by the current administration of the way people think about latinos in general and the fact that there was a manifesto saying that mexican americans needed to be eliminated along the southwest border because we were corrupting america. if that isn't enough to motivate a vote against them, this is about voting against him. spanish anding getting beaten up in public places and all that, that should be a motivator to show people that we are a growing population and we will still be a growing population and we will be in some sort of election and i hope it is this one. thank you. guest: a recent survey found the majority want to see stricter gun laws and that is something that is a pattern over the past 10 years among the tino's for

stricter gun laws nationally. it is also important to note that one in five adults are gun owners themselves or know somebody in their household who has a gun. that is an interesting element. when you talk about latinos and motivating the vote, 2018 was a year where there was a surge of participation in latinos in california and texas, because of the close congressional races going on and some concern and reaction to the trump administration. one of our surveys show that is interesting is that in 2018, when asked latinos whether they experienced being called a name or said -- or heard someone say therek to your country, were some who said it happened. encouragingy had

words about the situation in the u.s. and expressed support for latinos in the country. host: bob in tennessee. caller: i am a deplorable supporter. say is wes about to have no problem with legal immigrants coming to the country. yes, i think should all --.milate to have the same what i tell a lot of my friend, they will work. and i have always stuck up for mexican that do come here.

i live in a small town. the came here and we were seeing construction jobs go to them, but we all have to work. it is better than coming here and trying to get on welfare. my point is, why would any mexican want to lower their self and come here and just be low or get a job, which i agree they should work and we all should, in their is plenty we can share amongst one another. but how you could vote for a socialist guy, i don't know much about mexico with their socialist country. host: we heard your point. guest: there are 10.5 million who are undocumented. among them, they are more likely to be in the workforce the general population. that is partly because

immigrants come to the u.s. to pursue economic opportunity and that is often times true of unauthorized immigrants, particularly those from mexico. about half are from mexico alone and they make the largest part of the undocumented population in the united states. that population has been in decline and is down by 2 million since its peak in 2007. even though the u.s. economy has been recovering for a while, one of the interesting things is weak have not seen an increase in undocumented immigrants and has been declining -- declining. host: a research director for the pew center, thank you for the conversation. guest: thank. host: we will return to our question -- what are your concerns with the coronavirus outbreak.

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continues. host: more of your talk about the coronavirus. what are your concerns with the outbreak? the dow dropped 1000 points amid concerns by investors there are more cases in china, south korea, and iran. the president was in india and held a news conference in new delhi and address the coronavirus. here is video and the latest from the president. [video clip] pres. trump: you may ask about the coronavirus which is under control in our country. very few people are with it and come in allho have cases i have not heard anything other, because for two days i have not seen much of that news because it has been all-encompassing. lot.ve accomplished a

the people are getting better. we brought in some americans from a ship because it was the right thing to do and they are in our team -- are in quarantine. we feel they will be in good shape very soon. we discussed a lot of different elements. we discussed the coronavirus. at this moment, india does not have much of a problem. theys expressed that didn't and that is great. that situation will work out. a lot of talent and brainpower being put behind it. two and a half billion dollars we are putting in. chuck schumer criticized that it should be more, and if i gave more, he would say it should be less. it is not good for our country. host: let's go to capitol hill, durbin talkingck

about the briefing they received. >> some people at the table i would trust completely. the doctor is one of them. he is an expert. in terms of the people on the budget and, i made the point earlier, you can't come in and ask for a cut for the cdc starting october 1 in light of what we know with the coronavirus. >> is there a plan in place to deal with people who are being brought back to be quarantined? >> they did not get into the specifics and i don't feel competent to respond. >> are you happy with the supplemental request? >> i don't know, but talking about $2 billion at the outset is not an unreasonable amount in light of what we are facing. we want to upgrade the cdc employees responding to this

across the united states and we have to pay for transportation for some people who may be vulnerable or infected in a safeway. this takes money but it is money well spent if it protects the rest of america. schumer said this is not enough and too little, too late. does the administration defend that criticism? >> the explanation they gave us iggests 2 billion plus, but took it from there explanation that they don't know if for weeks from now we might ask for more. it is that uncertain. >> did congress approve this? host: talking to the reporters gathered outside of the door where members of congress received a briefing from tom administration officials. the doctor from the cdc and folks from the budget of this request by the

administration. will send ause request for $1.8 billion in emergency funding to congress in addition to or part of the $2.5 billion they plan to spend on the response to coronavirus. compare that to what the obama administration spent on the ebola breakout back in 2014 which was $6 billion. as some viewers noted, there was money left over from the ebola outbreak and the white house wants to take some of that left over and direct it toward the response and preparedness for the coronavirus. democrats are saying that is a responsible. hill,pening on capitol there is conversation about what is the proper response and the number should be prepared for and responding to the coronavirus. what are your concerns with it.

ashley in pennsylvania, democratic caller. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i am well. what are your concerns? caller: if obama put $6 billion towards the ebola outbreak and there was money left over, i feel i trump should at least match that and he shouldn't be trying to do it cut back on cdc, because that is taking hands that could be on deck to help fight this outbreak. to me it makes no sense. host: the health and newman secretary secretary will likely human-- health and resources secretary will likely be asked those questions about the response team put in place under the obama administration and this white house's decision

to not have that team in place. before senateng appropriations subcommittee this morning at 10:30 a.m. eastern on c-span. we will have coverage of that, along with our website. you can listen on the radio with c-span's pre-radio app. shelley in louisiana, republican, your concerns? caller: my concern is we do have a health crisis and that it would be a much more beneficial situation if the citizens of the united states would join together and join forces with our president and try to fight this, rather than pointing fingers and trying to further divide. the first caller i heard this morning was a lady who basically was going along the path that it was president bush's fact that

new orleans was underwater because of katrina. new orleans was underwater because money had been given repeatedly to those in portland to fix the levy and they never fixed it and the k levee broke. ,ost: as far as the coronavirus a statement was put out saying the trump administration continues to take the threat of the coronavirus very seriously. today the administration is submitting to congress a $2 billion plan for preparedness and to procure much needed equipment and supplies. we are freeing up existing resources and allowing for greater flexibility response activities. in response, democratic leader

chuck schumer put out a statement saying, too little-too late. the president is trying to steal funds from ebola which is still considered an epidemic. it further proves he and his administration aren't taking the crisis as seriously as they need to be. we have seen no sign president trump plan or urgency to deal with the spread of the coronavirus. we need real readership and we need it fast. those are from the democratic leader in new york. republican, your concerns? had tickets to a performance of a chinese dance company based in new york. host: ok? caller: i am wondering if i should attend? host: you have to turn down the

television and just talk through your phone. frank, seattle, democratic caller. because iam calling am a firm believer that are branches of government are department i state think should have a little more input publicly or maybe the cdc director should outline exactly what our diplomatic responsibilities are. secretary pompeo maybe how is the department of state acquiescing,y not but attacking the promise -- premice thatthe --

ise that we-- prem are not doing that. i do not think secretary pompeo and the director of the cdc, ms. grisham and her synopsis of communication to the public from notpresident that china is doing enough. comingrus is apparently a problem. -- my basic call is ask the department of state and diplomats -- ,ost: from the washington post

robert o'brien has discussed possible coalitions and outreach with other senior white house officials in recent days. theoption includes having president call for u.n. security council meeting to force china to share more information about the outbreak which began in wuhan and spread from the world's most populist nation. those number stations remain preliminary and no decisions made whether the president will ratchet up his pressure on china or global groups the coming days. reaction from capitol hill -- nancy pelosi tweeting out, our state and vocal government needs serious funding to respond effectively to any outbreak in the u.s. the president should not be money from other areas. the publicaddress health crisis. will look at that.

they finally admit what i've set for a month, coronavirus didn't start in wuhan market but where did it originate? time for answers of the government. says thet senator president thinks we should be a la getting more funds to disease control efforts. i agree completely. let's also introduce trump to the centers for disease control, the agency proposed cutting by 17%. marco rubio, no reason to believe the coronavirus is contained in china. the numbers they are releasing are fake. the primary goal isn't addressing the virus, it is there global image. we have no idea what the numbers are but they are no doubt higher than what they admit to. on that point, the world health organization says they believe that china may have the

situation under control, because of "draconian measures they took to shut down cities, restrict travel." it reads that the agency assesses that the world is not ready for an outbreak. related to that, there is a story in the paper this morning about iran in the outbreak there from the new york times. that is a recipe for a massive viral outbreak because of the awesome pilgrimages, work -- muslim pilgrimages, and workers their and the constant circulation of the workers and that iran has been crippled by sanctions and people lost trust in the government and leaders are isolated and providing little clarity about the extent of the epidemic.

you couple that with years of unrest that have shattered the health systems of neighboring countries, like syria, iraq, and yemen. poor track have record of providing transparency. , a foreign policy reporter, tweeted out that the iran deputy health minister tested positive for coronavirus day after clearly unwell at a public press conference. iran know where near close to handling the outbreak new their borders. sandy in ohio, an independent. we are getting your concerns about the coronavirus. caller: i think everybody is kind of over panicking. in china, they say they have all of these deaths. have you seen people being buried? have you seen people being cremated? do they feel that big hospital

or is it all just a scam? i know some people are dying, but the coronavirus is a cold virus and a variation of it. died, some people have likehis is not as bad as chuck schumer claiming the downdent -- trump shut travel from china right away, but the chinese people knew about this a month or so before or i think two months for they let anyone know. he is doing what he can do. did he criticize obama during the ebola crisis? obama would not shut down travel , because he said it would hurt the economy of africa? obama put american lives at risk and it was fine if we got ebola over here and the majority of

people die from that. host: you may be interested this doctor.e cdc he was just briefing senators about the response to coronavirus. this is what he had to say about how it compares with recent outbreaks. [video clip] >> is highly transmissible. sars was less transmittable but had a mortality of 9% or 10%. flu is very transmissible and has a mortality of.1%. ourpandemics that we in lifetime have experienced, 1957, 1968, in 2009, have a mortality of 1.3% to 1.6%. the catastrophic pandemic of 1918 had a mortality of just shy

of 2%. therefore, where do we stand now? we have a highly transmissible calculatedhas a mortality, which we call cfr, case fatality rate, of 2%, no doubt it is lower than that. the reason it is lower because the only things we are counting our people who come to the attention of health-care willders, which means they be more people who have no symptoms or minimal symptoms, and they don't get counted in the denominator. so if it is 2% now with a small denominator, where the denominator increases by five fold, you will probably have a mortality of 1% or less, which means if it continues to evolve into what we hope it doesn't, namely a pandemic flu, it will

be very much like a really, really bad flu season or moderately bad pandemic season. host: dr. anthony fauci. let's try to go back. >> the coronavirus is under control in the country and the people who have it are getting thatr and then he said this morning. is that consistent with what you heard? >> there is money in the supplemental for developing a vaccine. i hope we are close to it, but there is no evidence that we are on the verge of discovering an effective vaccine, that alone making it available for the people who need it. nownumbers of cases right days,hanged over recent

but history tells us that outbreaks can occur very quickly. what is most alarming here is the spread to other countries, iran, italy, and countries seeing it in much larger numbers. so the impression i have based on what i was told, it is only my impression, that we will see more outbreaks in this country. >> the president says it is under control in the u.s.. >> my purpose is not to dispute the president but to say we need to invest more resources. i cannot say what was said in the room. i should be able to do so. this briefing should never have been classified. i am at a loss to know why it is. >> lawmakers have been saying my't people in quarantine in state. are you hearing more about that from your colleagues? >> i am hearing a number of

comments and i don't want to repeat what was said in the room. >> did they indicate they may ask for more money down the road? >> there was no indication they have plans to seek more funding beyond the supplemental of $2.5 billion. billion or around that amount is going to help the vaccine. plans to no specific spend our ask for more money. >> host: that was richard blumenthal talking about that classified briefing that he just received. because it's classified he cannot give out the details of what the senators were told about the administration's preparedness and response efforts for the coronavirus. we are asking about your concerns about that this morning. the senator talked about

vaccinations, the wall street journal has a story, one company, modernity, has sent its first batch of a coronavirus vaccine to the u.s. government. testing could begin in april. if it is successful they are looking at a three month oneframe for testing this humans. compare that to the last coronavirus outbreak back in 2002, there was a 20 month testing period -- timeframe before they started testing it on humans. this is experimental, that's the key word of the headline of the wall street journal for this vaccine. reaction to this conversation from our viewers, a text message from richard in florida saying the debate over how many billions are spent on current medical emergencies and ores the fact that we are borrowing from our children. there's a complete disconnect between taxing and spending with most americans thinking there's a money tree behind the white house.

on facebooke bryant saying my concern is that the medical community is not taking it seriously because they tell us the coronavirus is no more deadly than the common flu. but at the same time they and other countries are quarantining people for the coronavirus and not for the flu. with aon facebook said 3% mortality, i am more concerned about the flu. if you want to join the conversation you can go to facebook.com/c-span, you can go to twitter or text us at (202) 748-8003. include your first name, city, and state. randy, in iowa, your thoughts? good morning c-span listeners. i was listening to my favorite progressive radio host, tom harton, he reported that under the obama administration there were two offices created for

this situation in case of a viral situation like what we are facing with corona. one of them was in the homeland security office, the other was in the national institute of health. he brought to my attention that over the last two years those offices were done away with by the trump administration. i'm sorry that i cannot be more ,pecific about names and titles but it seems to be that that has been how trump has dealt with ourgs, whether it be foreign relations personnel, the foreign service people, they just been slashing at government. so i will leave it up to you and the listeners, maybe they can fill it in. thank you for letting me get my point in. host: randy, that is something

members of congress have brought up in the tweets we have been sharing this morning. they are concerned with that office, the ebola -- the pandemic office being eliminated under this administration. it was put up during the obama administration, but you also mentioned homeland security, the acting homeland security director, chad wolf, will be testifying. he's on capitol hill at 10:00 eastern to talk about the president's budget request but he will likely be asked about coronavirus in this country. you can watch that starting at 10:00 on c-span3, as well as our website, or you can listen with the free c-span radio app by downloading it onto your mobile device. let's go to nicky, in west virginia, on the republican line. caller: how are you this morning? host: i'm doing well, your

concerns with the coronavirus? caller: i think it is serious, something we need to watch for, 17% cut inout the , all government agencies could be cut 17% and not hurt a bit. because washington is full of .eople that do nothing they get paid they do nothing. they get paid, they do nothing. if there's a vaccine coming in a couple of months, whatever whatever, i will be first in line to get it. virginia.i, in west we will leave the conversation there. we are going to switch topics, we will be joined by tom hart of the one campaign to talk about the group's efforts to fight against mobile property -- global poverty and for venable diseases and later on william barr will meet with senate

republicans. -- jeffdoch bank mordock will join us to talk about why. yesterday the penn state institution for compute asian land data sciences held an election security conference here's a tom ridge, former secretary discussing the threat posed by cyber threats to the united states democracy and what happened in september 2001. [video clip] isi say to myself and this my opinion, i share it with you, i hope you agree. it's one of the reasons behind the forum. it's potentially as harmful, tonful, harmful and painful deal with the attacks. and it's potentially harmful and as massive as physical terrorist cyber attacks would be, nothing, in my judgment, nothing has

greater potential to undermine thane are as a free people cyber threats to our democracy. the challenge to undermine free and fair elections, by crating uncertainty tod the legitimacy of our political process. chaos which we see today even divides our political leaders. who sought of those to attack this country was to destabilize our government and political institutions, i'm afraid we have to admit that they are succeeding. civility in the very foundation of our constitutional government are the primary

victims of the abuse and the misuse. -- the misuse of social media. enemies'es goal -- our goal is to destabilize and they are succeeding. >> washington journal continues. here, thehart is north american executive director for the one campaign, what is one? caller: it's not -- guest: it's a nonprofit dedicated to eliminating extreme poverty and disease, we don't dig wells or build schools, we work with governments to try to develop better policies and funding for programs that do that great work. we work in washington, london, paris, berlin, other places around industrialized countries and we are increasingly doing advocacy in africa and other poor countries to make sure that they are focused on these issues. host: where is the name come

from? guest: it's really about everyone taking an action, one by one, as we work together as one we can make a world of difference. we are a bipartisan organization working with republicans and democrats and everyone in between to try to build support. host: how are you funded? guest: we have a board of directors, we don't take any money from the government or the public at large. first by ourted, co-founder, bono, the lead singer of u2 and an array of philanthropists and supporters sitting on a board of directors. host: so you are advocating policy in these countries, specifically what type of policies? guest: we work to support the funding for incredible institution called the global fund to fight stb malaria. there was a huge conference that raised $14 million to stabilize against these three killer diseases. and year we have 160 people volunteers from around the u.s. going to capitol hill later

the globallk about alliance for vaccines and immunizations. global health, advocating for policies that support food security, getting girls to school, and good governance, accountability, and fighting corruption. host: why is food security important? guest: food is essential, for course. summoning people go to bed food insecure, -- so many people go to bed food insecure because of droughts, or farms have failed, or there's just not enough food in a particular country to feed the citizens. we work to improve farming techniques, technical assistance, drought resistance, they are incredible programs launched by the united states and other countries to import data to support federal farming and food production. host: what types of food? and why is it important for preventing these diseases you are trying to eradicate? guest: if you get sick and you

don't have enough food, just as an example, fighting hiv-aids -- hiv/aids, you cannot take on antroviral medications empty stomach, you won't be able to digest them and the medicine won't work without food. if you have a weakened immune system because you don't have enough calories, you are more likely to die from getting sick. ,hereas if you are not hungry and not malnourished, you would survive. host: what countries are you talking about? guest: the poorest in the world, largely in sub-saharan africa, not exclusively but our work is concentrated in our advocacy goes towards programs that are specifically focused on sub-saharan africa. the extreme poor, living on those -- those living on less than two dollars a day are increasingly concentrated in sub-saharan africa. host: you mentioned the gavi group, there was a forum held,

and seth talked about the challenges with immunization. i want to show our viewers and have you talk more about it. [video clip] at immunization in fragile countries, it's 10 to 20% less than non-fragile companies. -- countries. that effect is clear. the first thing we have to do is get the world to think that it is the norm to provide your basic immunization systems for your population. why do i say that? if you come in on a disease specific approach and say g, i am here -- gee, i'm here for the polio program and i'm going to keep immunizing until we eradicate polio and not do anything else, you eventually see pushback from the population that says is this for us? for you? we need a norm that is about doing this for everybody.

immunization is the most cost-effective intervention. for every dollar you spend to get a $54 return. even more for a poor country, this is where you should be putting your money. if you get to the point where we all agree that this is a global public good, that countries ought to be financing, then you have to ask the question how do you work in places that are fragile? how do you make sure that immunization is available to both sides? so when we are working in yemen, had we make sure that not only the government but the north is also engaged in immunizing their kids? or somalia? or drc? inhave been able to do that many places, i would postulate that what we need to do is build out those systems so that those systems are available for all of the other activities. host: tom? , the: he's exactly right world extremely poor people are

concentrated in what he calls fragile countries, countries with weak to nonexistent health systems, weak governance, very hard to get people from remote areas into the health system. so what the global vaccine is reallys doing important. getting vaccines to kids who needed and saving lives, but they are often the first point of entry into the health system for many moms and kids. that touch point, getting immunization creates the relationship that improves the health of those individuals and the brain moving forward. there are challenges with working in a fragile state, they do innovative work partnering with those countries and community leaders to get immunizations for that first touch point. host: you mentioned polio, what of the other and musicians? -- immunizations? guest: diseases we have long forgotten about, polio,

diarrheal disease, pneumonia, things are almost a nuisance in the west are deadly in the poorest countries. immunizationsine that take care of those diseases for,gavi provides vaccines i think it's 14 different diseases in their work. they have been part of cutting child mortality in half in the last 20 years. host: we want to get our viewers involved in this conversation about global poverty and disease prevention. if you live in the eastern or central part of the country, (202) 748-8000. canmountain or pacific you reach us at (202) 748-8001or text us at (202) 748-8003. given the vulnerability of these areas, how concerned are you about the coronavirus? concerned,re very and obviously with its unknown ,mpacts on how it will spread

it is so far centered in countries with strong health systems. we are concerned about it breaking out in countries with weaker ones and how quickly it might spread. the last segment on the show delved deeply into virility and how it's transmitted, and the mortality rates. and there are lots of questions, we are months if not year away from a vaccine. togavi is ready and prepared purchase these vaccines in bulk but they are not a developer. toare relying on scientists develop as rapidly in order to make sure that we can get this up-to-date. what groups, including g can mobilize? guest: the most important are the governments themselves, to figure out the best in immediate

places to work with. they work closely with unicef, the bill and melinda gates foundation, and the pharmaceutical companies themselves to develop these products. it's called the global vaccine alliance. that alliance is important to their success. host: what you think of president trump 2021 budget, cuts to the state department, cuts to funding, how much to the people that you work with rely on those agencies and funding? guest: we were disappointed in the overall budget request for development systems and poverty fighting assistance. it was more than a 20% cut. this has been a continual pattern over the last four budgets with the president's request. we are very disappointed with that. we have been very encouraged and supported by republicans and democrats and -- in congress who have restored those cuts and in fact increase certain programs over the last couple of years.

there is one notable exception fullavi, he requested the amount for gavi and made a pledge over the next several years to gavi, which we are very grateful for and with the terrific success within quite a lot of other bad news. host: what you think of this headline, president trump promises to defeat aides, but his track record leaves critics skeptical. guest: he announced an effort to eliminate hiv/aids in the united states, something that we hardly applauded. it's a worthwhile goal, and it's doable. we have the tools to eliminate hiv/aids at our fingertips if we choose to do so. what we find discouraging is that that announcement was coupled with aliens and billions of dollars of cuts in the fight against aids outside of the u.s. border. as we know from coronavirus or a bola or anything else, diseases don't know boundaries.

any effort to eliminate hiv needs to be coupled with a similar effort outside. the tools are clear, the epidemiology is clear, we know hundred feet hiv, but we need to muster the will. let's talk to mary, from richmond, washington. caller: i had a comment, i think it's great what you are doing, and thank you for being on the show. i think it's wonderful that they are helping all of the different people all over the world, but one thing i would wish they would do is take a look at our own backyard for all of the and those whoe are subject to catching anything. the other thing i wanted to you were talking about the coronavirus earlier, and all of the different things -- if people would get back in

to washing their hands before they eat, adults, children, teenagers, babies, -- host: mary we can take the first part of your comment. guest: i completely agree, we have people who are needy here in the united states, and the u.s. government is doing a lot and should do more. i want to be upfront about the fact that most people poll to tell us that people think the united states spends 25% of its budget on foreign aid. it's less than 1%. we are spending a very small fraction of the budget on foreign assistance and programs like gavi to get kids in you nice. and these pennies on the dollar make a world of difference around the world not only for the lives it saves and improves, but it's one of the best representations of american culture and innovation and andnology and our spirit when we are assisting others

abroad, there's also self-interest. with coronavirus and other communicable diseases. we are ensuring when we tackle them at their roots that they are not coming across our own borders. host: to repeat, the one campaign gets no government funding. guest: that's correct, we don't get any government funding and we don't take funding from the american public, we are entirely funded by our board. we are not asking people for their money, you're asking for their voice, to weigh in with congress and the president to support these programs. everything we do is bipartisan. we make sure we are in from both parties and we are trying to get these programs funded. host: david, in washington, d.c.. caller: i met a nursing home right now, getting treated for a disease. i worked as an employee for the u.s. government, and i studied this problem for 40 years implicitly because of the 40 year projection of the u.s.

economy. contribution from the private sector, the u.s. government sector, and the gentleman is underestimating the amount of foreign aid we get, a lot of the dot money is foreign aid. i know that because i worked at the national security agency. if the u.s. doesn't take this seriously we're going to have a recession which will reverberate. talking about a penny out of a dollar, the gentleman is very right. keep up the good work. guest: thank you. i appreciate it. and yes, i was not referring to the department of defense spending, which is about 16% of the total federal budget. i talking about development assistance, -- i was talking about development assistance, which is a particular part of the foreign aid budget within the state department which i was referring to.

another quick comment, you are right, the private sector plays an enormously important role in the fight against extreme poverty and diseases around the world. the major pharmaceutical companies sit on the board of gavi along with the major donors and other philanthropists like the bill and melinda gates foundation. they are at the table with their resources. it's important. host: matthew, in vancouver, washington. question, one of the problems i have seen is when foreign aid goes to other countries, often times there are some leaders or government people that will keep the money rather than let it go to the people. i'm wondering if your organization has found a way to bypass that? or put restrictions on how much medical costs in other countries. what is your corporation do for that? guest: that's a wonderful segue to the other ville -- the other

bill that our vultures are working on, it's called the illicit cash act, a bipartisan bill that would remove something called anonymous shell companies. it's a technical term but what happens is sometimes government officials and others steel money from poor countries and filter it into anonymous shell that can't be traced. we estimate that a trillion dollars is lost, and this is one of the tools they used to get money out of the poorest countries. every dollar removed is a dollar that could be used to fight poverty and disease or there's a bipartisan bill we are supporting today, to make these companies no longer anonymous, so that law enforcement and the financial industry can track them and find this money that has been stolen. 2563 the illicit cash act. the national federation of independent businesses says that not only does it attempt to

shift a reporting requirement from resource heavy big banks onto millions of the country's smallest businesses who are the least equipped to handle it, but the legislation threatens a small business owners with oppressive fines and jail time for failures to provide updated completed paperwork. guest: i believe that's an outdated statement. i think they have now indicated their support, or at least non-opposition to the legislation. several changes have been made to address their important concerns. one is that it's the u.s. federal government that will take on the burden of getting this report. and second, the recognition that most small businesses, all we are asking for is for people to be clear on who owns the business. you have to provide the same amount of information to get a library card in all 50 states. we can surely ask companies to put their names on the companies they want to own. and small business owners have their names on the door and they should not have problems putting it on the paperwork. host: when it comes to the money

receive and donate out, how do you track it so that it is spent properly? ,uest: it's a great question and a frequent misunderstanding. we don't deliver assistance to these countries. advocacy, theo do public policy working with republicans and democrats to shape smart policies that we know will make a difference. we believe philanthropy, foundations, private sharing, churches, are incredibly important but if you're talking about eliminating extreme policy -- poverty or ending hiv/aids, you need the scale of government. our role is to work with governments, whether it's western powers or governments in developing countries to have better policies. host: how much money do you need to do that? guest: it's a huge amount of money to end extreme poverty. i was at this point we don't have good estimates of what it would take.

but we are working everyday to make sure that the resources requesting, particularly for programs like gavi, are the most effectively use as possible. host: stephen tweets and what is the first thing to do to combat global poverty? guest: the first thing to do? i would say there are two things, in the west, in the united states, we are asking citizens to give their members of congress the permission to support these programs. often members of congress think i'm not sure of my constituent support this. we know that americans really do support childhood vaccinations and food security. and we hear from our colleagues in africa, they need support creating jobs, and giving economic growth that has lifted every poor country to wealthy income status. those are not simple answers to the question but they are the fundamentals. in baldwinsville,

massachusetts. caller: good morning. , my questiontion would be, i really do not trust anything the chinese say or do. i don't understand why we do business with those people. theyare stealing from us, do all sorts of nefarious things, and the doctor reported there were over 90,000 cases when they were saying it was over 20000 and he's dead now. there's probably over a million cases in china. you cannot trust anything these people say. doing anything different with them? i'm amazed no one has blamed this on donald trump yet. talking about the coronavirus, obviously, do you have concerns for the countries that you work with about what

information you are seeing coming out of china? guest: i think we are all concerned. we are dealing with something unfamiliar to the end -- the scientific community and these governments. i think assuring that we are getting the right information from china and other impacted countries is a real concern. and understanding a new virus, knowing how it spreads and what its mortality rate is, there are a lot of unanswered questions and we are in that delicate period of time where we are not even sure how to defeat this particular enemy. we are extremely concerned about it breaking out in places that have weak health care infrastructure. so far we have seen it in countries with stronger ones. host: what is china's footprint in the sub-saharan african countries question mark guest: -- countries? guest: they are investing massively. it's a concern and an opportunity, they are working

with governments to develop mines another resource extraction. it's a business-to-business investment. oftentimes, not overly concerned with the long-term development of these countries. they will go in and bring chinese workers, building a road from a mine to a port and leaving. we are advocating long-term development owned by, developed by, and could be sustained by these countries themselves. there's a lot left to be desired with the chinese model in africa at the moment. on the other hand we need to step into the void and provide an alternative way of financing. africa needs financing to build roads and ports and health systems and we should be at the table. host: barbara, in massachusetts. suggest am calling to project for one. back in the time of occupy wall street i saw some brief videos

at my synagogue, where we had meetings of indivisible etc. these were five or 10 minutes with white backgrounds and black line drawings explaining the basic information about what pertained to the crash. and now we have a global infrastructure of cell phones, whereby we could create these psa's, these public service announcements, to explain vaccination and immunization and all kinds of issues like that. a massive public education campaign. i would love to see you guys at c-span go back into the archives and find those little video clips and do a segment on that. sponsor filmmakers and animators from all over the world to do this. and i'm visualizing one wherein there is no language, or there is one thing that has language free and others that are

subtitled or the audio over it. everybody on the planet could see the exact same information at the same time. and an award category could be vented. so they could do it at the academy awards or whatever. theet's get the world using cell phones for massive education through the video psa's. and thank you. and one more thing, i have influenza a, i went to my doctor, i'm 72, i'm sick for a couple of weeks and i did not get the shot for reasons that don't matter. i got it yesterday after the doctor swabbed my nose and confirmed through a test that i have influenza. i'm a well-informed person and i did not even know that there was a test to confirm that i had the flu and which strain it was.

so we need more education here at home, ourselves, about the basics of where the sciences right now. use tamiflu or any of the other stuff because i'm too far into the infection, so i just wanted to say that we need education at home and abroad. guest: that's a great idea. i really like it, getting short psa's and animations out there is something we've done with our members and activists around the world. but getting it in front of millions of people is really difficult. i didn't want to comment that this is one of the things that gavi another partners on the ground do to tell communities that there's going to be a vaccine day. they will get the community leaders and do paid advertising and billboards and most everybody listens to the radio. so they will do radio advertisements.

women will walk for hours in their sunday best for vaccine day because they know the power of these vaccines to save lives. host: for those who want to learn more you can go to one.org and follow them on twitter. tom, thank you. when wetake a break, come back, attorney general william barr is heading to capitol hill to meet with senate publicans. we will speak with jeff mordock about why he is there. we will be right back. ♪ -- sunday --

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republican senators have been very supportive of attorney general barr through the roger stone chaos. but there's a deep divide between the republican senators and the attorney general it comes to renewing the intelligence surveillance act provisions, three will expire on march 15, two weeks from now. and christopher wray has said these provisions are extremely important when it comes to catching terrorists and other bad guys and we need these reviewed. republicans are extremely skeptical, since michael horowitz's reports have come out and found that the fbi has abused the program to launch an investigation into the trump campaign to spy on carter page and other members of the trump campaign, they've been pushing for pfizer reform, particularly -- fisa reform, and there's one that they've been particularly aggressive about not renewing. so will be interesting to see what the reaction will be. will what provisions

expire? and what changes do these senators want? guest: one is a lone wolf provision, which enables the fbi and justice department to go after a terrorist who is not affiliated with a known terrorist organization. just somebody out there plotting a terrorist act. another is a roving wiretap provision. a lot of bad guys will make a phone call and throw that phone away and get another phone. notthe burner phone is stated in a search warrant. so that allows the fbi to then transfer the search warrant from one phone to the new phone but the bad guy picked up. is one thatoversial datas the fbi to collect from text and phone calls from u.s. citizens that they suspect they are involved in wrongdoing. that's raised a lot of privacy concerns. utah, and patrick

lahey, a democrat from vermont are working on a bill now. we don't know what's in it, but it's reform that provision. you will not get mike lee and patrick lahey to agree on a lot but they are agreeing on this. host: is that how the metadata of congas men devin nunes was released? guest: that's correct. host: could you ask plane that story? -- could you explain that story? guest: when they were doing the warrants and coming up with stuff for carter page and people in the trump campaign and found the information that devin nunes was sending along, that was how up,stuff got swept off -- was also people texting innocent people who had nothing to do and they are getting swept up into that. host: what changes do the senators want? guest: they haven't been very specific. they talk about reform would have not outlined anything specific.

one thing i think that's interesting is the house judiciary committee tomorrow is holding a markup on a bill for changes.anges -- fisa as this morning we have not seen the bill they will mark up, let alone the provisions they will discuss. we might see it this afternoon but here we are almost when he four hours from the hearing and we haven't -- 24 hours from the hearing and we've not seen with the house judiciary wants to do. mike lee and patrick lahey are working and also richard burr andmark warner, the two ranking member of the senate intelligence committee, they are reform bill assa well. there's a lot of complaining but not a lot of suggestions for reform. host: so william barr on capitol hill, the topic sounds like they are dealing with foreign useeillance, and the fbi's of these provisions which are expiring. we want to talk to you about

that, and overall, how you believe the attorney general is managing the justice department. our phone lines this morning for democrats (202) 748-8000, for republicans (202) 748-8001, for independents (202) 748-8002. you can also text us at (202) 748-8003. what will william barr .2 when he talks to the senators to say these are successful? he will point to some of the successes the department and fbi have had, and some successes they've had in locking flexural property theft from china. inse are primarily -- blocking intellectual property theft from china. christopher wray has been a big proponent of renewing these provisions. they have both said they have used this to capture a lot of terrorists. but the problem is that the fisa court is secretive and we has

the public don't know. the senate intelligence probably theseports, but a lot of cases, even when they bring an indictment, you don't know whether or not they got it from a pfizer -- fisa report. they are going to pitch that we need this, but why is -- host: any indication that mitch mcconnell is planning to bring these provisions to the floor to renew them. -- them? guest: i think he will but he's been talking about reforming the and lindsey graham has talked about reforming the fisa court as well. i think we will see some changes, perhaps reflecting what burr and warner are going to do. falloutlk about the from the mueller investigation, the steele dossier, and what the justice department is currently

doing in response to all of that. guest: one of the things that i think is interesting is that the fallout has left republicans and democrats deeply distrustful of the justice department, which creates a tough task for the attorney general. you have republicans who think the justice department is another example of the deep state out to undermine trump. and you have democrats looking at the justice department as bill barr running into do political favors for the president. that creates a tremendous amount of animosity or distrust of the attorney general as he goes to pitch for things that he says the justice department needs. that's one of the big fallouts. is thathe other issues we have the republicans talking about the carter page fisa renewal, and the horowitz report was pretty damming on the fbi. and we have rep -- we have people distrustful of the fbi and the fisa process.

that's going to create problems going forward. host: what about the other investigations related to carter page? guest: right now we have john , he'shim -- john durham running his own investigation into the origins of the russia probe. we are hearing that he's looking into things -- that he may bring criminal charges. this has certainly been bubbling up around the investigation. host: where does the investigation stand question mark criminal charges against two? guest: we don't know, we've heard rumors but nothing to be confirmed about who he will bring criminal charges against if anybody. he's looking at the origins of the probe, and it's going to be interesting to see what he does. aboutime bill barr spoke the probe, he hinted we could see something this spring. i would expect next month or the month after we could see something. though i know for the horowitz report that was supposed to come

out last may and we did not get it until a couple of weeks before 2019 ended. host: when you say he's looking into the origins of the russia probe, what exactly is he looking at? guest: if you look at it, one of the things that came out in the horowitz report -- host: you're talking about the inspector general report, that's who michael horowitz is. guest: he's the justice department inspector general who did a two year investigation into the carter page fisa. he issued a scathing report about the fbi, finding a whole bunch of mistakes, omissions, doctored evidence, exculpatory evidence left out of the fisa application that would have cleared carter page and most likely the wiretap would not be approved had not -- had that information been submitted along with the other information in the request to get a wiretap.

so that report was externally critical -- extremely critical. as a result of that, you have john doerr him and bill barr wanting to know how we got to the stage and a wiretap on carter page when the justice department and fbi came out saying the wiretaps would not have withstood scrutiny. the wiretap applications were mismanaged and they should not have been submitted at all. the justice department said two of the four should not have been submitted and the renewals had not been looked at it i imagine we will get the same result. host: president trump for very 20th said the decision not to prosecute andy mccabe's inexplicable, what is he referring to? guest: eddie mccabe was the comey,director under jim also a frequent trump target.

he was found to have misled investigators that were investigating a leak, and media leak to the wall street journal from the fbi. and mccabe initially announced -- andy mccabe initially said that he did not know where the leak came from and was not responsible. and when investigators came back he not only admitted that he had done it, but he apologized. that's on the record that came release they interview transcripts of andy november or december. the justice department -- the u.s. attorney for washington, d.c. has looked into bringing charges against andy mccabe and they decided not to bring charges. charges,y had rejected it's hard to know what exactly they would have brought. we've heard that the grand jury heard the case two different

times and in both times the grand jury rejected charges. trump has railed against the justice department for that, but of the grand jury rejected charges, i don't know what the justice department could do. that tells me the president trump's issue was probably with the residents of d.c., the more liberal residents of d.c. who sat on the grand jury and charges,ot to pursue rather than the u.s. attorney's office for d.c.. once a grand jury rejects charges there's not much they can do. host: let's get to call, matt, in baltimore, an independent. caller: i am 92 years old, a world war ii veteran, i'm absolutely appalled with this fisa court. i would like you to confirm or havethat the fisa courts been improving over 90% of

applications were surveillance? i think that's appalling. i think the comey system is appalling. friend whory good retired from the fbi, in disgust, three years ago, who said that comey has changed it former investigators. and now it's a bunch of foolish bombs. -- bums. the fisa court reacting? guest: they issued a very rare opinion admonishing christopher submittinge fbi for --. christopher wray has submitted 40 reforms, and has gone on the hill and told people he has gone above and beyond what the fisa court has said. however republicans on the hill have been pretty skeptical of

the reforms and the fisa court itself has been skeptical there's two interesting things. that he'ss are saying not taking it seriously, he needs to clean house and get rid of a lot of people who are responsible for the fisa's for carter page. most people have left for other reasons but he has not claimed house. and jim jordan scolded him, saying he's not taking this seriously. the other interesting thing about that is that the fisa court just appointed a supervisor to oversee the fisa reforms. he's a former obama administration official who has defendinglk shows, fisa court, the carter page fisa application. what's interesting, and that has rankled a lot of republicans in the senate, and that is something bill barr will hear a lot from. mark meadows has raise the claim

that if this is who they are going to a point and we need to question as to whether we should have an fisa court to begin with. hear think bill barr will a lot of that from republican. gentlemen appointed, his defenders are pointing out that he slammed the fbi, saying they did not go far enough, that's evidence that he can be impartial. he is looking at this without a bias. virginia, ain democratic caller. caller: good morning. president,p became we did not have these problems with the fisa court, the fbi or the fbitigations, investigating terrorists and so forth. and the majority of the trump involvedaides were

with the russians were engaged with russians in some way or another. host: i want to take the first part of that, have we had problems with fisa courts during previous administrations? guest: no, this is the first time the fisa court has gotten public attention. most of the opinions are secret, most of the wiretaps they approve are done in secrecy. what we have with president trump is this unprecedented we've never had an investigation into a campaign like we've had with the trump campaign. also never had a president so willing to speak out against it the way trump has by taking to twitter and bashing the fbi and fisa court. he's critical of christopher wray, his own appointee, on twitter. host: the president also tweeted they say roger stone like to congress, but so did comey and he offered classified

information and all most everybody other than good hillary clinton goes to jail and so did andy mccabe, who else lied to the fbi. fairness he questions. host: -- guest: is a grand jury doesn't return an indictment there's not a lot justice department can do. , heor the roger stone case got three years and four months. he's a political -- a longtime friend of president trump and an advisor to the campaign. he was charged with lying to congress into ties between russia and the trump campaign, witness tampering, and obstruction of justice. as your viewers probably know, his sentencing fight touched off a firestorm in this town. the prosecutors wanted nine years. bill barr and the justice department stepped in and gave him -- they wanted roughly three to four.

and obama appointed judge gave roger stone three years and four months, she did not ask leslie say this but you could hear this, when she was giving her presentencing speech, had roger stone knock on out of his way between tag a nice her through the trial -- to antagonize her throughout the trial, she probably would have gone under two years. some of those months got tacked on because he was so competitive -- combative with her leading up to and during his trial. --t's a bit of an indication vindication that an obama era judge pointed at it and she wanted to be harsh because he was difficult, and she wound get -- wound up giving him three years. host: we have a democratic caller. barrr: i believe william is working for the president, and not the american people, and helping them cover-up all of the things that have been done, and

are still being done, and endangering our country. just because were running short on time, there is an echoing of some democratic statements, are there any investigations into the role that william barr is playing at the justice department? guest: the house judiciary forittee is working information on different things. they are looking into information -- the attorney general has set up an intake process for information coming from the ukraine, which has been the center of the impeachment push. they want to know more about that. i think when the attorney general comes before congress, they have wanted to question him for year. i think we are going to see a lot of questions thrown at the attorney general. i think democrats are really prepared to grill him on a lot

of issues from roger stone to situationo the mccabe with the former u.s. attorney, her nomination to the treasury was pulled suddenly due to about the stone case. and their stuff not in the headlines, like jamie raskin has been pushing for attorney general barr to address whether or not in the quest to crack -- crackdown on chinese intellectual property theft, that they are racially profiling chinese individuals. that's an issue that democrats are going to want to push. on theeff, in maine, republican line. caller: we don't know whether the fisa reports wherever a problem, because this is the first time they've ever looked at it. they are gonna go back and look at other situations that were going on. they are doing that now, as an investigation, to see if there were problems, or if the

democrats have ever done this before. and they even uncovered documents just yesterday about papadopoulos and how the fbi agent's falsified documents about him in the emails. so there's a lot more to come about all of this fisa craft -- crap. and we do not need fisa if the judges themselves are going to lollygag and sign their name off on anything, because it's ridiculous that something like dossier report or the got through judges without questions on stupidity. host: ok. guest: the justice department has already come out and sent two warrants lacked merit and should not have been approved and they are looking into the other two. and yes i think we will see a deep dive into other warrants submitted over the years from the fbi.

judge of thead fisa corp. has expressed -- court has expressed skepticism and she says she will be much more skeptical. attorney general william barr will be meeting with republicans on capitol hill, you can follow the reporting by jeff mordock and others by going to washington times.com. you can see the news as it develops and what we what -- what will you be watching for? guest: i will be watching for the senator say, if they are on board with the fisa provisions the attorney general wants to renew, or if they want to fight him on this. i think that will be interesting, especially from republicans that have been so supportive of the attorney general as he has taken hits from democrats and the media. host: jeff mordock, we thank you. 10:30 up on c-span, at you will hear from alec cesar -- be testifyingwill

before a senate appropriations subdivision on coronavirus and what his agency is doing to respond and prepare for that, likely getting a lot of tech -- questions on that. that does it for today's washington journal. thank you, enjoy the rest of your day. we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> c-span, your unfiltered view of government, created in 1979 and brought to you today by your television provider. heard live in half

an hour we will hear from the secretary of health and human services, alex azar, as he testifies on the president's budget request. he will likely also get russians about the trump administration request for $2.5 billion -- get questions about the trump administration quest for $2.5 billion to fight the coronavirus. and the director of the centers for disease control and prevention and other officials will testify on the coronavirus virus thursday before a house subcommittee. we will have that live on c-span3 at 2:00 eastern. you can also tune in with the radio app. president trump held a news conference and answered questions about the government response to the coronavirus. he says the virus is very well under control in the u.s. but first he was asked about how the u.s. is responding to

threats in the middle east. pres. trump: we have done a great job and taken our soldiers out of syria except for little hotspots that we will do as develop. and thetaken the oil soldiers we have there are guarding the oil. that is all we have there. and if you look, we are down to a small worse in iraq and a small force very shortly what we have a small force in afghanistan and we are moving out and moving around. the only soldiers we have in terms of syria, the predominant number regarding the oil. -- in thisut the region? [indiscernible] pres. trump: you also have other countries that can do this. the united states is 8000