back to the senate is consider nominations, including brian miller to be inspector general for pandemic recovery. :00 a.m. on c-span3, the senate judiciary committee holds to keepg on efforts inmates safe during the coronavirus. a subcommittee examines the 1990 millennium copyright act. journal, maryland carton.ben a look at the public health response of covid-19 with dr. dara kass.

discusses his book. and the federal response to the coronavirus with democratic congressman jamie raskin. video from yesterday of president trump announcing further federal and military intervention in the aftermath of the killing of george floyd. after those comments, the president strode through ofayette park cleared protesters to briefly visit a historic church, st. john's church, which had been partially burned the night before. welcome to "washington journal." getting your thoughts on what you heard it from the president

to end the continued unrest in cities. for those of you in the eastern and central time zones, (202) 748-8000. (202)in and pacific, 748-8001. you can send us a text at (202) 748-8003. we welcome your comments on twitter as well. that is http://twitter.com/cspanwj. about 12dent speaking hours ago in the rose garden before he made the trip to st. john's church. here is the reporting of the washington times. forces onilizes anarchists." after he that soon spoke national guard troops were moved onto white house grounds, tribes ferry to soldiers --

trucks ferried soldiers. forces clashed with protesters within earshot of the white house with flashbangs in teargas clearing the way for mr. trump to make a dramatic visit across lafayette park. john's episcopal church. said, greatest country in the world in we are going to keep it safe. that is the front page this morning from the washington times. the post with some of that protesting. hear some of what the president had to say in those comments just before his visit. sen. crapo: --

cooperation, not contempt. security, not anarchy. justice, not chaos. this is our mission and we will succeed 100%. .e will succeed our country always wins. that is why i am taking immediate action to stop the violence and restores security and safety in america. all availableg federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the writing and gluten --the rioting and gluten -- and looting, and to protect your second and emirates. -- second amendment rights. the following measures are going into effect immediately. we are ending the riots and

lawlessness spreading throughout our country. stronglyave recommended to every governor to deploy the national guard in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets. governors must establish an overwhelming law enforcement presence until the violence has been quelled. refuses tor state take connections --take the actions necessary, that i will deploy the united states military and solve the problem for them. the federal authority of the president when he comes --when it comes to using troops. this is from the 1807 insurrection act. armede of militia and forces to enforce federal authority when the president considers unlawful obstructions

itrebellions to make impractical to enforce the law of the united states and a dish in any state by the regular course of judicial proceedings. a tweet from last night from a member ruben gallego. thetweets this question -- military exists to protect americans, not to harm them. i have one question for chairman millie. do you intend to obey the legal orders from the president? let's go to your calls. we will hear from paulette in texas. i want to show the whole picture of how the president pushed, beat to get his photo

op. shameful end very he needs to be out of the office. host: pennsylvania, we go to larry. that rightcomment is now we have been the white house the worst, most dangerous and ept president since james buchanan. they need to go and impeach him again. our country is in great peril with him in the white house. host: ok. donna. would like to say it is nothing to do with george floyd. getting involved

in these demonstrations and they are out to destroy this country. people need to look at what they are doing. they are destroying their own neighborhoods, jobs. step back and just look. look what you are doing. it is not about him. that is just their agenda to get something started. there have been other policemen that have done bad things to blacks. it is just now they have got something to pull up and flashed before the nation. and say, look, look with the blacks are doing to the weights. look what the cops are doing to the blacks. it is just in agenda -- an agenda. they are desecrating that man. you think it is not just a handful of people causing problems, but broadly, most of the people involved are seeking

trouble? caller: most of the people in think they are doing george floyd's memory. these radicals are stirring people up. have you seen western movies where the guy would go in the saloon? that is exactly what this is. it is a radical being paid to get in there to stir the people up. host: some of these photos taken yesterday. the city of washington one of several experiencing curfew, the second night of curfew in the nation's capital. on george floyd, that this is this is thes -- report on the autopsies.

they differ on what caused his death, but they agree on this much --the african-american was the victim of homicide. of cardiopulmonary arrest, or report says. it says floyd also suffered from heart disease. contrast withts an independent autopsy commissioned by floyd's family released earlier monday. that conducted by the university of michigan. they found that he died of his pressurefrom sustained --died of asphyxiation from sustained pressure.

condolences to the floyd family. i am sorry that they are suffering even further with what is going on. i think that the point has been made. can we just get back and take a look and let the system try and work it out. i know it has let people down have,, but it is all we and as americans --i love black people. i love all people. hue of ais a different multinational rainbow. we love each other. we do not have to be separate, but we are comfortable within our own group or pride or

whatever you want to call it. i just him at odds. i just am at odds. i watched that tape yesterday. i am considered a white woman. i am 64 years of age. but i have multi-heritage that runs through my veins. while i am not black, i do not feel way. so where do i fit into the all of this? read you an opinion by filmmaker cassie lemmons. writes, it is no secret that you like our music, style, swagger. is. meyer our author lettuce --you admire our athleticism, beauty.

she writes that if ucs only when diversion orce of victims who satisfy your taste for violence or death, then you do not cs as fully human --see us as fully human. beaten, raped, separated from our children, and the prison industrial complex, then you will never understand the true measure of what we have accomplished. i think there is a big issue with all of the dialogue. this is not a black-and-white issue. many of the people protesting floyd arejustice for

caucasian, latino, as well as black. a protest oft, common people all over the world. this is the key. they are common people. the other big factor they have missed is it is not a question of white supremacy. it is a question of blue supremacy. the police have more rights than the rest of us. impunity andwith they should immediately be charged when there is probable cause like you and me. authorities who have failed to charge them. arrest them. only --there will be peaceful mass protests.

i was at a demonstration yesterday and i am going again. we need a change in the social order. the police are designed to protect the interests of the billionaire class. we saw that represented at the white house. host: what was your experience? you went to the protest at the white house. i showed up when confrontation began to develop. from everyre coming direction and i did not want to get trapped or arrested. earlieri went down much , marched and rallied near the white house. completely peaceful. there were no provocateurs in operation. this situation had become worrisome as the day progressed.

host: we appreciate your experience. the video we are seeing is from yesterday outside the white house. it is associated press footage of protesters being moved out of the area of lafayette park. going on,le this was speaking to the nation from the rose garden and addressing those protests across the country. americans were sickened and revolted by the brutal death of george floyd. my administration is fully committed that for george and his family justice will be served. he will not have died in vain, but we cannot allow the righteous cries of peaceful protesters to be drowned out by an angry mob, the biggest being --f the writing of the rioting being the

peaceloving citizens of our poorer communities. i will fight to keep them safe. i will fight to protect you. law andr president of order and in ally of all peaceful protesters. but in recent days, our nation has been gripped by professional anarchists, violent mobs, arsonists, looters, criminals, rioters, antifa and others. state and local governments have taken --failed to take action to protect their residents. people have been savagely beaten, like the young man in texas or the woman in upstate new york. theirbusinesses have seen businesses utterly destroyed. nurses, who have battled the

virus, are afraid to leave their homes. a police precinct has been overrun. and, the lincoln memorial the world war ii memorial have been vandalized. one of our most historic churches was set ablaze. a federal officer in california, an african-american hero, was shot and killed. these are not acts of peaceful protest. these are acts of domestic terror. speechll of that available on our website c-span.org. from yahoo! news -- biden blasts trump photo op. biden, presumptive democratic nominee in the election, slamming the president for " using the american military against the american people."

he tear guest peaceful protesters and fired rubber bullets for a photo biden tweeted monday. for the children, for the soul of our country, we must defeat him. biden announced he would speak today on the civil arrest -- unrest. in front of st. john's church, a tweet from the hill. trumpys she found out by seeing ithurch thev, the bishop of episcopal church of washington dc. she says she was not given a courtesy call that they would be clearing the area with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop. we need moral leadership and she

has done everything to divide us. that is from the episcopal leader of the diocese in washington. margaret. margaret, turn down your audio. caller: thank you. host: mute that. go ahead. margaret. caller: good morning. trump did not walk through that little park with the protection of the national guard and the army, what if those protesters --one of those protesters would have killed him. and yet i hear people on the news blaming mr. trump for everything. said ago --months ago, he he would take care of all of

this. all of the governors complained. they said we are going to take care of our own states. and look at what is happening. those governors are blaming mr. trump for everything. you have ruined our country. you have ruined our beautiful country. i don't know whether it will ever come back. it is not the people that are doing what they are doing. the troops and the national guard should have been called up the first night. the statesrs in all told mr. trump, no. we want to take care of our own. what is the matter with you people in our country? my father died from this country --for this country, my brother, my husband. they are turning over in their graves if they saw what was going on now. to sam ins go

louisville, kentucky. good morning my man. first-hand experience. my name is sam. i am in louisville kentucky. may,ars ago last month in i was involved in a disturbance that became a national trial. six ifcalled the black you ever want to look at. we were in the same situation where police brutality happened. they were decided going to aggravate two people. folks are not going to be to policeeir sheet brutality because there is a mentality in this nation to police. we can go back and see something happening in the last 15 years.

these policemen come out of afghanistan, out of iraq, and the problem is that they were involved in an enemy overseas. they see black people on the street as an enemy. they have this thing called mass targeting. when they shoot black people, they try to shoot them in the not only toreas, bring them down but to actually kill them. i will not linger on this. the black youth, when we were demonstrating with martin luther , werend bobby seal demonstrating for peace. we were demonstrating for justice. what is going on out there on that street right now is not happening that way. you have wolves in the sheep. steal.hing is they

they use innocent people to get out and steal and dilute. i will just say this and leave it alone. if you are religious, if you christ, youesus need to look at matthew 25. you read those and tell me if you are a christian or not. host: sam? let me ask you about your experience with martin luther king and bobby seal. martin luther king a practitioner of nonviolent protest. refrainicult was it to from responding with violence or looting in some cases when you are faced up against a line of police or national guard?

caller: at the time, we had open housing. we tried to get people to move. some houses were destroyed by bombs was how i got involved. what happened was we were and it wasth mlk peaceful. --rocks, bottles thrown at us, but we overcame that because we knew what the outcome would be. it was going to be justice. the police action was happening kentucky.uisville, the police come in with this attitude that they are going to become the owner of the community and they are going to take over the community and they tape eight -- and they tell people get off the street, do this, do that. trying to disrespect me, i will not let you.

and you are saying that i am wrong because i'm not going to go with your rules. i appreciate that. you: sam, appreciate calling in. calling from global. -- calling from louisville. here is the governor of kentucky. peaceful, and aggressively make your point. there is a difference between aggressively make your point and violence. what we have seen is professional vandals. these are not the protesters. you see them in the full black cat --tactical gear walking down the street not trying to make a point, but trying to create or incite violence. i truly believe that there are people out there, and we have

some of that intelligence, that they want to create violence where everybody is heard. -- hurt. that is why i called in the national guard. i was concerned things were boiling to a point where peaceful folks, demonstrating but pushed into a direction by those who want to cause violence, could be harmed. not want anybody hurt and all of this. that is why we have to look carefully at what happened last night. obviously there was a shooting and we have to know all the facts about it. people deserve to see it for themselves. host: don in henderson, nevada. caller: good morning. i think the governors and the

mayors that are socialists in these states and cities should be charged with malfeasance. look at what is happening. a war memorial is desecrated. a church is burned. enterprise, another pillar of our democracy and our is robbed,c system, pilfered it, and diluted. -- and looted. dunshave these governors --what have these governors done? nothing. the law will take its course with the police officer that killed the poor guy laying on the ground. giveer, that does not

antifa and all these criminals that looted. i found out that this morning the district attorney of new york released one hundred 25 people arrested. host: don in nevada. more calls. we are joined by maryland senator ben cardin. of alld to ask you first what you thought about the president's announcements --hisday, is increasing increasing use of the military. think he added to the frustration. peacefuldent cleared a protest to do a photo often in front of a church. using the federal military against our states is an abuse of power by the president.

inre is pent-up frustration this country in regard to our criminal justice system. an overwhelming number of protests are protesting that injustice. there are those that commit violent acts. they need to be held accountable. there are those that will try to provoke. they need to be held accountable. but do not blame it the unrest --but do not blame the unrest. sun: the baltimore --thousands take to baltimore streets to protest the death of george floyd and police brutality. a seemingly peaceful protest they are in baltimore. overall, how do you think the city of baltimore, the state has fared under its leadership? very little incidents as far as vandalism is concerned.

are protesting is that we have a discriminatory justice system. law would be enacted by the congress of the united states that would prohibit discriminatory law enforcement. that is what they are crying out for. they want nondiscriminatory policing in this country, law enforcement, criminal justice in this country. int is why think people baltimore took to the streets in a peaceful way. an effort of your schatz.e brian therstanding you are in

democratic minority in the senate, what do you think will come out of these protests that the senate could take up? caller: it is counterproductive. it does not keep communities safe. it is not a partisan issue. i hope that democrats and republicans would say it is time for this to end. enforcement-- law agencies have done the right thing by saying we will not allow discriminatory activity. that is a build trust between communities and law enforcement. you need to have that as the standard in this country at all levels of law enforcement. host: back to george floyd. the autopsies were released. the one done at the family's request and the other by hennepin county. hope the justice

department will do, understanding that attorney general barr watch an investigation? what else should be done? officer has been hi charged. we have an investigation of -- we need an investigation of state and local law enforcement. it took a while to see whether this pattern or practice within the police department with itself that led to this particular incident and whether there has to be systematic changes within that police department to make sure this never happens again. issue thatther key has been subsumed a bit in terms of its importance in the operate of covid-19 and its effect in dc>hington,

. you have been working on next steps on covid-19 and the small business committee. what should be done for the residents of your state? ppp has been successful but it needs to be adjusted. the house has passed legislation giving small business owners greater discretion on how to spend the money. we hope that legislation will be on the president's desk by the end of the week and assigned, but we need to do more. ppp, we thought our economy would be back to normal. that is not the case. we need to look at targeting aid to those small businesses that truly needed help. we wanted to get money out quickly to as many as possible, now we need to target those

small businesses that are in underserved communities and have had a dramatic reduction in revenue. day theres primary -- they are in maryland among eight states doing primaries today. we had a primary a couple months ago and did voting by mail. we expect today that most marylanders will vote by mail ,nd have it postmarked by today rather than going to a polling place. there are polling places in every county or someone can go, but we expect a majority to vote by mail. we also expect to have a higher percentage of participation. senator bin cardin,

appreciate you joining us this morning. back to your calls and comments about what trump had to say yesterday at the white house. the federal response to the unrest across the country. forlines are (202) 748-8000 those in the eastern and central time zones, (202) 748-8001 mountain and pacific. francesca is in wisconsin. they were showing images of the protesters on tv. there was militia, armed. sudden, a big line of horses show up in front of the militia. kneeling downe

saying, please do not sho with their arms up --please do not shoot with their arms up. they reminded me of kent state. army in friend in the break my and it would heart to think his first deployment would be against american people. host: david next in arlington, virginia. going to comment about the protests and what the value of going out and protesting nowadays, but i would like to make some comments on the maryland senator. i thought some of his comments were tone deaf. the fact that he said baltimore is doing well. d.c. area and it is notoriously corrupt. the primary is really high.

it is one of the few big cities in the united states that is actually getting smaller, so i do not know what his comments were regarding. specifically about the response to the unrest, the protests in baltimore. but go ahead. caller: i was curious. what is the value of protesting nowadays? i am in my 30's. i work in the federal government. how change gets done on a national level. out inious, when you go the streets and hold a sign-up -- and yell,d el that cop has nothing to do with governmental change. you are just standing there yelling at somebody and that does not accomplish change.

i do not seeows, the value in that. honestly, it delegitimized as the people out there protesting, whether or not that has value. standk people need to back into find a better method --back and find a better method. if these protesters were to organize a little better, come up with a list of things they would like to accomplish, and then reach out and say, hey, we would like to see these things changed, i guarantee you he would take that call. and spray painting and boarding churches -- burning churches, i do not see the value. host: headlight and the wall street journal.

deployed, and additional 12,000 in 23 states. the largestn, number ever activated in the u.s. scott in gulfport, mississippi. caller: good morning. host: your volume. caller: good morning. there is a lot to unpack. you will not give me enough time so i will be brief. the protesters. they began, at the initial theyning of the protest, began supporting law enforcement reform. of thes the objective reasonable protesters. we went to get law enforcement reformed in this country because obviously the whole world now

has seen the underbelly of this culture. basically a seen is snuff show. we watched eight minutes of a man die on camera and it was horrifying. it was the most horrifying video i have ever watched. the whole world is reacting. that was the initial response from the protesters, but let me say this. the degrading of the protesters and demonstrators has turned into nihilism. nihilism is now rampant across this country. it has lost perspective. the defacing of public monuments is unforgivable. it is unacceptable. i support trump one hundred percent. to stop this nihilistic the people who have overtaken the protest movement

to basically destroy the government. anything that represents the government in this country, let it be destroyed according to them. they are to facing public monuments. this is unbelievable. host: that is scott. we will play more of what the president had to say yesterday. mr. trump: i am taking decisive action to protect our capital, washington, the sea -- d.c. what happened was a total disgrace. i am dispatching thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers, military personnel, and law enforcement officers to stop the rioting, looting, vandalism, souls, and wanton destruction of property. we are putting everyone on morning.

our seven :00 curfew will be strictly enforced. those people who threaten innocent life and property will be arrested, detained, and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i went the organizers of this terror to be on notice that you will face severe criminal penalties and lengthy sentences in jail. and otherses antifa who are leading instigators of this violence. one law & order. and that is what it is. we have one beautiful law. host: your comments on twitter at http://twitter.com/cspanwj. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. as tweets, our highest duty patriots is to defend the usa first. let's swear an oath to uphold the laws.

chris in birmingham who says who confirmed -- leroy from baltimore. none of this would be happening if the nation had taken colin rnick taking-- kappe a knee attention. state and local officials have give attention. linda in st. louis. when covid came here, he was not quickly doing anything about that for the states or anyone else. these white people calling in and asking about everything is walk in blackn,

skin one day. i am afraid to have grandkids because of what this usa is doing. we need to get that not out of the white house. -- that nut out of the white house. black people are dying by the hands of the people that are supposed to protect them. it is sad and it is tone daft when these white folks -- tone deaf when these white folks in.n -- call thank you for taking my call. host: john in virginia. caller: i am an african-american man. i did vote for trump and i am ashamed of myself for doing that. i see where this man's heart is at. for him to come and hold the bible upside down and say it is a bible.

what is he saying? dragon.he is like a as a kid, a dragon would open his mouth and a fire comes out. when he opens his mouth, fire comes out and spreads division between people. just like the young man called from northern virginia or wherever. he worked for the federal government. he says the police has nothing to do with what the protests are about, but he needs to stand one day in a black neighborhood and see what goes on. thank you for taking my call. caller: you bet. host: james in madison, wisconsin. good morning. caller: i would like to start off by giving my sympathy to george floyd's family. everyone is bashing each other back and forth.

i would like to state my sympathy for that family. the next thing is that the president was so fast to mobilize soldiers and troops. this big tough guy approach. how much did he love the country in the 60's when he was called to serve his country five times and dodged it because of bone spurs? he was really talking about we are going to do this in that. it ain't involving him at all because the soldiers he is sending out did not dodge their duties because of bone spurs. the police officer had on george floyd's neck. in the state of wisconsin, that is a bar to hold -- that is a barred hold. you cannot put your knee on

somebody's neck. that is illegal in those officers were guilty. that is all i have to say, sir. host: jim in cairo, missouri. use of the word domination is where this all started. the police seeking to dominate with overwhelming force. the man does not have a clue. i will leave it there. goodbye. host: big sandy, tennessee. we hear from philip. caller: yeah. yeah. all i got to say about this is i am sick and tired of our politicians sugarcoating stuff. with what is trump's -- with what trump is doing, he is

acting like putin. he wants to be a dictator instead of a diplomat. this goes out to all of the people who voted for trump. go to the polls in november and get rid of him, if he lasts that long. thank you. host: some comments from members of congress. --bara lee of california fires and looting's do not help. this is about ending institutional racism, not doing harm to our communities. militarizing police forces does not make communities safer. this week, the anniversary of the tiananmen square massacre. what happened to george floyd was a horrific act

of police brutality. people are rightly horrified, but looting and violence is not the answer. the answer is for the justice system to hold officers accountable. another, these are anarchists taking over the cities and streets throughout america. bring in more national guard and shut down these riots. from florida, many small businesses have been shut down by the government for months now. they are watching moms destroy and loot their stores. this is unacceptable and devastating for american small business orders --owners. and from photographer richard grant, this photo. saying this is probably the most impactful picture i have ever taken. arkansasom cotton of also spoke about federal troops and the violence going on, urging additional crackdowns.

here is what he said. [video clip] thehere are a lot of tools president and the doj has in the toolkit to use to stop this anarchy. let's be clear. the video of george floyd's death is disturbing. i welcome the action by local authorities, the department of justice, to investigate and do justice for george floyd in accordance with law. we always respect the rights of peaceful protesters, but anarchy, writing, and looting we have zero tolerance for and it needs to end tonight. host: patrick in chicago. good morning. a lot of republicans it stating there is no playbook on how to do this. administration left

two things. handbook,the pandemic which the trump administration totally ignored. the justice department was trying to reform the police departments. when jeff sessions and donald trump came into office, they totally ignored that. now this is the situation. there was always a playbook as to how they should confront these two important situations going on, and he ignored it. the thing about republicans is they want nothing. it is never a good time and never a good time to talk about racism. when mr. capper nick was doing the presidenty, called him and esso b. sob.led him an

when you try to do nonviolence and you do not get the respect or attention, then you may have to step it up a notch. i do not agree with all of the looting and so forth because it is affecting our communities, but if it is the only way for a segment of our population to listen to us then that is what it may have to take. i do not like the route it has taken. a lot of them sit there and complain --it is never a good sign for them to deal with racism because they do not want to deal with that. it leads to dis--- it leads to this. host: the obama president you mentioned. president published a piece yesterday called how to make this moment a point for real change. hero, i recognize these months have been hard and dispiriting.

of aear and uncertainty pandemic have been confounded by a reminder that prejudice and inequality shaped much of american life. watching heightened activism of people of every race and station makes me hopeful if going --that we can channel into action. in maryland, jamie. i want to say that all of the ugly we are seeing right now, i mean nobody wants to see looting, but we can sweep it in a big pile and charge it to the inaction of the justice department, law enforcement. before they days

brought officer on charges. america does it take that long. that was murder we witnessed on camera. we still have yet for the other three officers that stood and watched to be brought up in charges. --on charges. as bad as this is, this is minor compared to what it is going to the jury does not render a guilty verdict. we will see this problem multiplied by 10. you will have people very, very angry. right hope that they do and charge this officer directly and give him life in prison. feel for law enforcement, for those people that have to put on that uniform

, that you know for that reminds all of us of this very moment right here, you know. say to the people that still act as if issues do not exist and are silent about everything, i want to let them know they are just as much a part of the problem. in williamsburg, virginia. good morning. caller: i am concerned about our first amendment rights. nation born with the ability to talk and express to our leaders. me?you hear host: absolutely. go ahead. can you hear me? just make sure, patricia, you

your volume. caller: ok. i'm sorry. i had it on. host: are you good to go? in meriden,o gary connecticut. i would like to recommend a book that explains and his base came about in this country. it is by heather cox richardson. it is entitled how the south won the civil war. the subtitle is more illustrative of what this talks about. oligarchy, democracy, and the continuing fight for the soul of america. this book looks at racism and slavery before the civil war and the travesties of reconstruction through the civil rights movement of the 60's and onward. it also discusses the

lawlessness against other minorities in this country, chinese-americans, women, and so on. anyone who wants to understand the history of this country, and i was a professional historian into jr, should read this book. richardson's. host: thank you for the suggestion. we have covered comments and it talks by heather cox richardson and that book. you can find that on put tb.org or c-span.org -- on book tv. city --ael elizabeth rsayisrael -- this is elizabeth city.

is the president trying to militarize the government?" twitter says, real brave. tear gassing and shooting protesters. richard says our president is an opportunistic carnival barker. he thinks the voters are dumb. and from park, yesterday was a low point in the history of the presidency. soon america will be like one of trump's businesses or casinos, broken and ruined. to carol in new york. caller: i have severe ptsd. i am a white, educated, registered nurse. i have nothing to do with black at all.

i was living in lexington, kentucky. i had police officers come rampaging through my house. i had a concussion. i was strip-searched, thrown into a prison cell because i had a concussion. i hired attorneys to sue the police department. my first attorney became -- host: carol, we seem to have lost you. james in fort worth. being madeistake here is we are concentrating on 5% of the protesters where 90 .ive percent are decent trump's racism is rampant. there is no doubt about that. and trying tog paint the entire dissident movement with the actions of a few people. this is saddening in america

where you have got someone who's obvious ases are as the color of his painted here. more of your calls, comments and facebook posts as well. up next, columbia university's dr. dara kass will talk to us about the coronavirus pandemic and her personal experience with covid-19. later, faith and freedom coalition ralph reed discusses his new book about even to local support for president trump -- about even joe local support -- evangelical support for president trump. , thenday night on q&a wallace talksorge about her father's controversial career and what inspired her to write her recent book. >> back in 1996, took our

youngest son -- we took our youngest son to the martin luther king museum and historical site in atlanta and we went to his church and we went over to the museum and it was newly constructed at that time. we were going through the exhibits and we came to the exhibit, the alabama exhibit and it shows the bombing at the baptist church, the fire hoses and dogs in birmingham. wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. said, it up at me and was so sad. why did he do those things to other people? it broke my heart.

i said he never told me what he did those things to other people enormous -- other people, but it was wrong. it is up to people like you and me to make things right. >> watch sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. having lived through a loss of confidence -- what we are told by anyone who calls themselves an expert. it becomes very difficult for us to rise to a challenge like this. our first reaction is to say they are lying to us, only in it for themselves, and a lot of our national institutions have to take on the challenge of persuading people again that they exist for us, that they are here for the country. eastern, at noon live conversation with an american enterprise color.

his most recent book is a time to build. other titles include the great debate and a fractured republic. join the conversation with your phone calls, tweets and text messages. "> "washington journal continues. host: joining us from new york is dr. dara kass. she is an emergency medical physician at columbia university's medical center. she is also a contributor. thanks for being with us this morning on washington journal -- this morning on "washington journal." guest: thank you for having me. have spoken about your experience with covid-19. tell us about that. guest: i was one of the first people whom i knew to get infected with the virus. it was about the middle of march. answer to taking care of

patients right after we started , we started seeing patients who had more of a cough and fever. that weekend, i saw a lot of patients that had been abetted to the hospital. a couple days later -- had been admitted to the hospital. a couple days later i suited experiencing -- i started experiencing a cough and shortness of breath. luckily i had a milder course of the disease. long did you have to stay-at-home in order to come back to work -- stay at home in order to come back to work? guest: i was not going into the emergency department. i started to see patients in person but moved out of my health -- out of my house.

-- as they reengage after having the virus, how long are they contagious and our guidance on that has moved since we started. i started taking care of patients again, and here we are. host: take us back to earlier this year, what was the earliest you heard about the novel coronavirus and what sort of early guidance were you getting and signs to look for in terms of detecting covid-19? guest: at the very beginning , december and january was when we were looking at it. a lot of the information was coming from the government and not coming from the people on the ground, so we weren't sure what to believe. this is me as a regular doctor looking at the world and what is happening. by the time it was in italy, we were shocked because we knew a lot of these doctors and we were hearing them directly. that was kind of overwhelming.

we realized we were going to have to have a very robust response. the guidance we've got in the beginning was very step -- we got in the beginning was very scattered. we did not think about symptoms and we did not have available testing. in the very beginning, everything had to go to the cdc, so it was very haphazard in our response on the ground in any city in america, until we got to the beginning of march when we were looking at patients, every single patient as potentially infectious and realized the swell of patients was going to be overwhelming. host: our guest is dr. dara kass with the columbia university medical center. a covid-19 victim, she is good to go and we welcome your calls and comments. , eastern time

zones -- (202)-748-8000 eastern time zones. (202)-748-8001, mountain and pacific time zones. -- in terms of going forward with the coronavirus still out there. you talked about travel history. what about testing? if people can get tested for the virus or get antibody testing, are those tests good to get? guest: everything is in context. we are supposed to have a reason to do it and we have asked ourselves questions as testing has been scarce. testing, there were only two-- there are kinds of people who should be getting that test. they are doing it as a surveillance. do you want to know if you had

it? -- are not going to change we are not really sure how reliable these tests are. the second person would be somebody that knows -- that was known to have the virus and wants to find out if they have antibodies, to donate plasma or track their family. neither is doing it to change the immunity path. those are not on the table right now. we talk about these tests coming out, you want to do those if you have any symptoms. we are not recommending people aindymac serve -- asymptomatic surveillance.

recommend it't yet. if you have any symptoms. headache, shortness of breath, cough or if either -- cough or fever, please go and get tested. it will help us track your contacts and help us tell you if you don't have the coronavirus. i have people who i have testednded recently get and once those symptoms got better they were able to reengage earlier than 14 days. helpful if your symptoms resolve. in terms of antibody testing, do you think they are reliable now? guest: it depends on the test. we flooded the market with a huge number of test. some are reliable, some are

unreliable. we are doing basically real-time postproduction analysis of which ones are good. but are the gold standard it is good information if you can leave it there. host: your own covid-19 case was mild. how did you treat it? guest: i stayed at home. had a device that goes on your detects how much oxygen is in your body. i used motrin and tylenol. i had some antinausea medicine and i slept a lot and watched a lot of television. host: let me get your reaction

to some of the comments from dr. covid-19,uci on reopening, vaccines. he says he certainly has sensitivity on the needs of the public to get to some form of normalization given what we have been through, but it is a big country and the dynamics of the outbreak are different from one part of the country to another. if people want to get out, they have to gauge it with a level of outbreak in their particular area. guest: that is exactly correct. there are a few websites you can go to to see what your local prevalence and testing availability is. if you look at the governors opening in different regions in their state, they are using the same metric which is helpful our hospitals, how available are tests, how effective is tracing?

these are the surveillances recommended by the white house at the very beginning of phased opening. it is up to us to know your community and the most important go that is not your primary residence, learn more about the community you're going to. what is there testing? is their local hospital? it is better information to have and the best part of how we are going to live in this new normal is being very deliberate on how we move and travel. it is going to require more information. i think dr. fauci is perfectly correct. i will take his guidance very seriously. emergencydara kass, medical physician at columbia university. (202)-748-8000 for those of you in the east and central time zones. mountain and pacific time zones, (202)-748-8001.

let's go to stephen in fort worth, texas. caller: i have a question about vaccine production. h1n1 virus when it first came out, how long did it take to get a vaccine to market and did they have to consider as many variants of the virus as they do with covid? guest: that is a very specific question that i don't have much information on. i don't even know if we have an h1n1 vaccine. i know vaccine production is complicated. one of the promising technologies is a new technology and i think we are moving very fast toward a vaccine. one of the things i tell everybody is to not look toward

a vaccine to get you out of the house. we need to get moving forward faster than a vaccine because we can't rely on that one thing or anyone thing to really get us engaging.ard we need to be much more deliberate about how we go forward without waiting for one huge scientific breakthrough to come through. host: we mentioned our guest is a yahoo! news medical contributor. a piece of vogue did on you about your day today work in the er, a quote from you in their headline, all of our er's are now icu's. iis was early on in april, think about the time you were going through your own covid-19. still in that icu phase? guest: no and one of the things

i want everyone to understand is no matter where you live is in new york city it was a tidal wave of patients and i work at a very large er and there are many very large emergency departments in new york city. we increased our capacity to double. it was a huge number. we had never seen that many critical patients at one time. many communities do not have that capacity. metrics public health in new york city, we are seeing less than 100 patients a day. down and weions are are able to reengage and it is a real lesson for many americans, that you can do this just with the hard work of public health metrics we have.

host: those temporary hospitals, some of the temporary hospitals we saw including the one in central park, they are no longer needed? guest: they shut down pretty quickly after we were able to get capacity back in our hospital systems. we have a huge number of hospitals in new york. we were probably a day or two away from losing capacity for critical care patients. we hit it very close but we were able to take care of every patient. host: when a patient is diagnosed with covid-19, particularly in fairly severe shape, what is the principal treatment? guest: it is evolving now. i think critical care doctor's are learning every about this new virus. very simple tenants in mesic -- in medicine.

virus reallyis sets your body on fire in many different ways and that goes back to a lot of these complications we are seeing in children which are much fewer about reminiscent of the inflammatory response set off by the virus. ,t is keeping inflammation down keeping oxygen levels up and getting the patient through. these patients are in the icu and the hospital for extraordinarily long periods of time. it is a huge hit on our system. even if you don't see all -- we had athe er norma's number of patients in the hospital that had to finish their course of treatment to be discharged. to youe are talking after another night of curfew in new york city because of the

unrest. i wanted to play the comments of governor cuomo about the unrest and some of the concerns he has over that affecting the spread of covid-19. [video clip] >> we are talking about reopening in one week in new york city. now we are seeing these mass gatherings over the past several nights, that could in fact exacerbate the covid-19 spread. we spent all this time closed down, locked down, socially distanced, and then you turn on the tv and you see these mass gatherings that could potentially be infecting hundreds and hundreds of people. host: some frustration expressed by governor cuomo. how concerned are you about the beginning of reopening in new york state? guest: i have been concerned about a lot of different gatherings across the country,

like the ozarks or some people opening up sporting events. the protesting is important for a different reason and one thing i have been noticing is a lot of people are wearing masks. protests with water, hansen at sizer and masks to continue to convey the public health message. we will see protests for a period of time and one thing that is important to remember is not to forget -- cases inct a surge of any place with protests or mass gatherings. the biggest problem is going to be that we are not going to be able to trace any of the contacts because we don't know who has been gathering together. i think there will be consequences from a public health perspective but i think in context, people move quick

amongst each other and they are wearing masks and we will just have to get through this together. host: our line for medical professionals, (202)-748-8002. on that line in maryland, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. on patients who , theyaling with covid-19 -- using [indiscernible] that is my question. guest: that is a good question. in march and early april the french health minister who decided to tell people to not take motrin, he was worried

about the anti-inflammatory effects of the body being able to fight the virus, that theory was unfounded. there is no reason not to take motrin. it seems like there is no downside. i ended up alternating tylenol and motrin. keep tylenol and motrin in your treatments. oklahoma. is next in caller: good morning. i had a question. virus, are youe susceptible to get it again, and i was wondering, did the doctor condone or does she remember that in washington state, 37 nursing home residents died, in

february and did she condone or --stion was she a part of the committee on that? the first question you asked was about reinfection. -- reinfection question is scientifically, we think it is coming out soon that you cannot get reinfected in a short period of time if you mount an antibody response. managedg how we everywhere in the country, there were a lot of decisions made early on in many different localities that had to do with the availability of beds and

hospitals and capacity and understanding what to do. saw anington state we onslaught of patients in nursing homes get sick. i was not part of the commission . i know the governor has apologized for that. new will makec, decisions that in retrospect do not look like the right ones. host: does it feel like life is getting back to normal at all in new york city? guest: it does. new york city is a walking city better.re getting

restaurants never really closed. some stores are shooting to think about how they can deliver as well. new york is definitely coming back to life, notwithstanding the last few days of protests. realize wetant to will move forward and step back in every city and if the virus rears its head again, we need to respect it. host: pam in california. go ahead. you are on the air. caller: yes. we have a very low count of positives here and i wonder if the medical people are talking also i wantr, but

to know why some of the doctors will tell us we don't have to wear a mask and others require us to wear a mask. the mask wearing, what do you mean not required or required? do you mean at work? but iwe lost her there, am not sure what the regulations are in california. wearing, it is always a good idea to wear a mask in public right now. it is an easy solution that will decrease the spread from one person to another. i was one of the first people to advocate for a mask in public. when you wear a mask, you are very deliberate in how you engage. you are very purposeful. that is where we need to be right now.

it is important that when you are moving from one place to another that you do wear a mask, a cloth mask you can make at home. it is important that we change our culture around mask wearing for now. host: let's hear from bonnie in virginia. caller: i suspect i might have had covid back in february. a very low fever and headache for a couple days before i knew what was going on, and i haven't been tested yet but i am up for elective surgery in july. i am going to ask if they will test me. it,t true that i have had what i be less dangerous to people around me because i'm going to need somebody with me

and i am hesitant to ask my daughter to be with me if i am not safe. is a: first of all, it very interesting dynamic when you have the virus and feel like you are a danger to other people. i felt that way with my husband. i want you to leave that aside for a second. you're a great candidate to get antibody testing. based on most of the people i know that think they have the virus -- had the virus in february with mild symptoms, they are disappointed to learn they don't have antibodies but you might. swabbedo and you get for the pcr, which is the active infection. if you have no active infection, it is unlikely you will get it again or risk infecting other people. when you go to get your surgery, they will swap you again. -- swab you again.

it is important you wear a mask and you understand any .ngagement has some risk it is important to remember that you will have to start engaging with people. she is going to be with you and you have it, she might get it. as long as the hospitals are not overwhelmed, we can take care of her. wewant to keep it down so can take care of everybody to the best capacity that we can. host: one more call from south carolina. caller: how are you doing? do you have a cure for this virus? guest: personally, no.

host: a quick answer. back to the woman getting elective surgery. you see that ongoing, that places that do elective surgery or dental places, can you see them becoming standard practice that they require some kind of covid-19 testing? guest: there are different tests that show different diseases and if you look at any gatherings whether it is mass gatherings or individual gatherings like surgeries or the dentist office, there will be some sort of testing in high-risk environments. i say surgery is a high-risk environment because transmission would require pcr. lowerther test that has a -- it is a quicker test, a

stress test. we will see a lot of those being done, i think for casual encounters like some surveillance. offices are getting ready to open with the availability of ppe. week 8 -- we take care of patients all the time in the er. that we are able to take care of patients. i have gone to regular screening visits. i want people to go back to their doctors. they should be coming to the er if they have a problem that needs to be seen by the emergency department. -- that will stay with those through and after this crisis which will help us improve our system long term.

we want people to get back to their screening test because a short window of three months hiatus does not change the surveillance of any preventative care. want to get back to patients being seen and being taken care of by their doctors. host: dr. dara kass, thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. host: up next, ralph reed has a new book out. he is the founder of the faith and freedom coalition. he will join us to talk about his new book, evangelical support for president trump. later on, congressman jamie raskin of maryland will talk about protests amid the murder of george floyd. ♪ >> sunday night on q&a, peggy

wallace kennedy, daughter of former alabama governor george wallace, talks about her father 's controversial career and what inspired her to write her recent book, the broken road. >> back in 1996, we took our young son who was nine at the time to the martin luther king museum historical site in atlanta. gravet to his church, his and we went over to the museum and it was newly constructed at that time. we were going through the exhibits and we came to the exhibit, the alabama exhibit. the bombedhe bridge, out church, the firehouses and dogs in birmingham and george wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. said, looked up at me and

he was so sad, why did he do those things to other people? it broke my heart. he never told me why he did those things to other people, but i know he was wrong, maybe it will just have to be up to you and me to help make things right. at 8:00 sunday night p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. >> c-span has unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public-policy events, from the president of primaries through the impeachment process and now the federal response to the coronavirus. you can watch all of c-span's public affairs programming on television, online or on our

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politico's reporting on the decision to do that. his scrambled team responding to the protest and politico rights in this article that a barricade of police troops had already formed outside the white house by the time president trump returned saturday evening, still giddy from his trip to florida to watch the first manned commercial spacecraft launch into orbit. even before he was hurried into the exec in a complex by secret service personnel, the latest milestone in american space exploration had faded into the background, another casualty of a news cycle focused squarely on protests against police violence that devolved into chaos right outside the president's front door as the demonstrations continued sunday, followed by violence and looting in the late-night hours. trump remained in retreat. order wereor law and dismissed as empty threats.

broadestnd brought the race focused protest to sweep america in half a century and laid bare treva administration's struggle to deliver a fitting response, caught between placating his supporters who grew agitated by the lack of a swift crackdown on looters, and the desire for soothing words from a nation in need of healing. he tried on multiple messages over the weekend over a to mulcher his 48 hour period, each time his words carrying the risk of exacerbating tensions further. we are joined next by ralph reed, founder of the faith and freedom coalition and author of a brand-new book, for god and country, the christian case for trump. ralph reed, thank you for being with us on washington journal this morning. guest: thanks so much. host: let's start at that moment yesterday in front of st. john's

church in the nation's capital with the president, walking over to the church and holding a bible in his hand. what do you think the president's message at that moment was? guest: i think the point the president was making, this is one of the most historic sacred sites in our country. this is a place where presidents have worshiped. it is known as the church of presidents. i was very privileged and honored to be with the president and his family and friends at st. john's, the morning of his inaugural, to pray for him, for his family, to pray for the vice president and his family, and to have a service dedicating his administration to the common good of the people and to the glory of god and the building of his kingdom. i know it is a special place of the president and all americans,

to see rioters attempting to burn that historic structure, with all of its symbolism, to the ground, i don't want to speak for the president but as an american, i was glad that he went there. it was symbolic, that is important. the things he does with the bully pulpit of his office conveys a message and the message was i believe, we are not going to allow our country by -- our country to be run over by rioters and looters and terrorists, and i'm glad he did it. host: in the aftermath of the president speech, the bishop of the episcopal diocese, had comments about the president's message which in part she said i am outraged, i am the bishop of the episcopal diocese in washington and was not given even a courtesy call that they would be clearing the area with teargas so they could use one of our churches as a prop. everything he has said and done

is to inflame violence. we need moral leadership and he has done everything to divide us. is the bishop justified her outrage? guest: no. president has a responsibility and takes in oath of office with his hand on the and defend the constitution of the united states and the primary function of that office is to ensure domestic tranquility and to defend the homeland against foreign foes. if the president fails to do that, than they have failed in their primary responsibility, and i think he was -- i think it was very important for him in the call he had with the governors yesterday, in the eloquent statement he made at the rose garden in which he made it clear that he was prepared to use the u.s. military to ensure

our cities are no longer burning and to ensure that law-abiding citizens are no longer beaten nearly to death and stoned by rioters and domestic terrorists. this is wrong, it is on american and i think my going to st. john's -- i think by going to st. john's and making it clear, that is the answer. the ultimate answer to what ails this country, including in the original sin of racism, his faith in god and redemption through jesus christ. that is the ultimate answer. it doesn't mean we don't do things as public policy to weress grievances and ensure address justice and that we ensure a fair shot for every american regardless of their ethnic background or the color

of their skin, to be able to chase and pursue the american dream as far as their talents and abilities will carry them. all of those policies and measures alone will not ensure repentance by those who have committed injustice and forgiveness by those who have been the victims. i think it was good for him to go to a house of worship, particularly when liquor stores and massage parlors and abortion clinics have been allowed to be open during the covid-19 pandemic, but churches have been ordered closed and christians have been arrested and given citations for trying to worship. i am glad he did it. frankly he does not need the permission of the bishop to do so. host: power lines for those of you who are republican, (202)-748-8001. for democrats, (202)-748-8000. independents, (202)-748-8002. ralph reed is our guest.

the new book is for god and country, the christian case for trump. and what iswrite it the christian case for trump? guest: the reason why i wrote it was not so much a defense of donald trump, although i do plenty of that in the book and proudly so. i am a strong supporter and good friend of his. i have a 30 page appendix in the book that details all of the accomplishments and achievements of president trump and his administration just in the first three years of his first term, but i really wrote the book and what motivated me and my objective was to defend the christians and the evangelicals who have been pilloried, smeared, demeaned, insulted, called every name in the book. they have been accused of being hypocrites and spiritual frauds and sellouts who bankrupted the

gospel and politicized their faith for 30 pieces of silver and access to power, and i think that is not only alive, i think it is a smear. the christian case for trump is quite simple. 2016, go back and look at two thirds of self identified evangelicals and conservative christians voted for somebody other than donald trump in the republican party primary. most of them, ted cruz but also mike huckabee, marco rubio, many great candidates. he was not their first choice. choice reached a binary between haney -- between him and hillary clinton and he pledged life, tot unborn appoint originalist judges to defend the state of israel and to be the best friend that israel has ever had, moving the

u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem and recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel, and defend our first amendment rights different -- religious freedom and our ability to express our faith free from persecution, he said for all of those things and does today and hillary clinton and joe biden stand on the opposite of every one of those issues, and i think that he is advancing -- does he occasionally say or tweet something i wish he wouldn't? sure he does, but he is advancing those moral issues and the common good, hand i think the other side is advancing grave moral evils by standing for the opposite. it wasn't just a politically right thing to do, to support him then and now, it was the morally right thing to do. they were early -- they were morally compelled to stand on those issues. writefrom your book, you

certainty on the sanctity of innocent human life, religious supportand unyielding for israel, president trump has been the champion for biblical values of people of faith. the only remaining question is this, will the faith community step up to the plate to defend its principles as enthusiastically as the left and democrats plan to do in 2020? plenty of calls waiting. we will hear from trent in louisiana. caller: hey ralph. the scripture i have been living in in my christian -- is here our god for we are despised, our captors sneer and scorned us and say sing us a song, sing us a song, but how can we sing in an alien land? -- wems like we are in

have intense powers and principalities over blacks, and withispanics, etc. this perfect storm emerging with the virus and the economy and china and civil unrest, i am wondering with 40 million unemployed, is there something tocan do as evangelicals stand behind, and help the country? and auestion is serious little bit of a hackle on c-span have such great book reviews and a guy they had on right before the virus hit was fh buckley from george mason university, and he was talking about -- his book was entitled american secession, the looming threat of a national breakup. that might be a good thing in this crisis. i am interested in the your --

in your point of view. guest: i am not familiar with mr. buckley's book. i am familiar with him and his work. this is not a criticism of the book because i have not read it, of abrahambig fan lincoln and i take the lincoln position when it comes to secession and miss unity. we need to stay together as a country. in a moment like this it is easy to lose perspective into think we have never been this divided before and we never had these kinds of divisions. 1968 was a much bloodier year than this. the assassination of martin luther king, virtually every major city rioting and burning to the ground. the assassination of robert f kennedy. american soldiers dying every day in vietnam.

a massive protest against that war. you go back to the great depression and look at the bonus army of world war i veterans that literally occupied the city of washington and had to be dispersed by military troops, with many people being entered -- injured and killed. go back to the civil war period. there have been many times in our history where we have been more divided than this. what we need to do, i think is two things. number one we need to pray. we need to intercede for the president and all of our leaders. these people are being stretched to the very limit right now. they have just come through a pandemic when many of them were working 20 hour days and now they are still in the pandemic in dealing with this, and incredible law enforcement challenge and riots in the streets and destruction of

property, people being injured, police being shot at. them and foray for leadership at this time. i think the other thing we need policys support sound and actions that will restore domestic tranquility and get us back on the right track. we don't have time in this format to go through all the things that i would propose, but first of all i agree with what the president said yesterday. we need to take our streets back. i live in the city of atlanta. i am joining you from atlanta. this is the cradle of the civil rights movement. it is the city that gave the nation and the world martin luther king. hereeached here, he led and he preached nonviolence and love for one's enemy. these people who have hijacked these protests are doing everything the opposite of what dr. king preached, taught, and

lived. we need to restore order first and after that we need to look towards an agenda that will ensure police brutality is dealt with. we need to ensure there is economic opportunity for all, educational opportunity for all. i personally am a strong supporter of school choice, and allowing young african-american children who are trapped in schools where they cannot learn and are not safe, and where they do not have a future, schools that look like they could have been designed by the ku klux klan. we need to allow them to go to a home school or private school or christian school where they can learn and get off on the right foot on that run of their lives. there are things i think we can do, but first we have to secure the streets. host: we go to madison,

wisconsin on the republican line. consider that donald trump paid off prostitutes and point stars, working on his third wife. cheated on his wife while she was pregnant and all of the moral ineptitude see has committed. recommending bleach and other things to use on the human body. utter chaos in office. how in good conscious could you support a person like this? you are a political opportunist of the first order and just like money lenders were shoved out of the temple by jesus christ, you should too. thank you. guest: i will leave aside the personal attack on me. i would just say i don't know if you are a christian or not or a professing believer, but i think the arguments you just made

about donald trump are not only consistent with the gospel that jesus preached when he was here on earth and taught, it is the very opposite. he didn't condemn people who were sinners and lead imperfect lives. stone andseeking to smear sinners who had lead imperfect lives and made terrible mistakes. i am not going to preach this morning but one of my favorite scenes in the gospel is when he is with the woman at the well and she is a samaritan. judeo,context of ancient she was of a mixed race, so there was a racial division between the jews and her. she was living with a man who was not her husband. she had been married five times before. generally not considered

appropriate and beneath the dignity of a jude to associate with a samaritan, and for a man to be engaged in conversation with a woman of her reputation. jesus didn't mistreat her at all. he engaged her in a conversation. he not only turned her life around but she went back to her village, convinced him to stay and many more came to christ. the application of the caller is that because somebody has made mistakes in their past, that i am supposed to as a christian exclude them from ever being of service again. that is not what the gospel teaches. it teaches the exact opposite, and thank goodness. i am a sinner, saved by grace. i am not here this morning saying i am perfect or i haven't made mistakes. i say i serve a perfect lord, and it's about him. it's not about a religion, it's

about a relationship with the savior hoover gave me and can forgive you and yes he can forgive donald trump. i would just say quickly, i address all of this in my book. i am not unfamiliar with this smear and discharge. you guys are hypocrites because you supported a man who has been and these other personal allegations they throw out. in the 90's, when i was in the christian coalition, i said the people who said that about bill clinton were not acting in a way that was consistent with the gospel. i said if bill clinton is a sinner, he is no worse or better than me or you. i have been consistent on this and i address it all in the book and i explained why the caller is wrong, and why as long as somebody protects the integrity of their office and keeps their campaign promises, and leads as

they say they will lead, why they shouldn't be disqualified for past moral failings. i spent a lot of time in washington and if you don't want people in office who have made mistakes in their personal lives, the capital would be empty. they would not be anybody there. host: let's go to bob in pennsylvania. caller: good morning and thanks for c-span. we are all sinners. it is not going to be fixed until god comes back. the only thing we have to go by is what people are saying. butourse we are all sinners we put a man in office, president of all the people. my thing with donald trump, hillary clinton was just as bad. i am independent and that is why we are at where we are at.

we put the same people back in office. my thing with donald trump, i stopped listening to him when he stopped -- when he handicap -- when he mocked that handicap news man. like to bed women felt up by celebrities. he thinks him building buildings is the same thing as a family losing a member in war. then what those football players trying to kneel, to show what was going on, what did he say? fire the sons of bitches. he is calling -- he claims he can commit murder on the street and get away with it. host: how do you think the president, behavior has evolved -- the president's behavior has evolved? how has his demeanor changed? of all he raised

the access hollywood tape and some of the crude comments the president made on that tape. i issued a statement at that time that as the father of two daughters i didn't appreciate those comments. the first is either or the second book of timothy in you aree where it says to treat older women as sisters and younger women as if they were your daughters in all purity. that is not what i stand for and neither.defend it and did he he apologized. he admitted it was inappropriate. as he said in the debate, i guess it was the second debate after the tape came out, he said those were words that were inappropriate and wrong. they are not who he was. but they are words.

he said what bill clinton did were deeds and what hillary clinton, not only defended his deeds but she attacked the attackers and engaged in a strategy of denouncing them as slots and nuts and help to put a campaign apparatus together to smear women who had been abused by her husband. i guess the argument that i would make to the caller, the argument i make for god and country is not that donald trump is a saint, not that he isn't in need of think of occasion. not that he doesn't occasionally make a mistake or rationally say a word i wish he wouldn't but given the binary choice between an agenda that puts america first, defends our country, keeps us from being ripped off by china, turns the economy around once, i think he will do it again after this pandemic is over, stands for innocent human

toe, appoints originalists the court, defends israel, dismantles isis and supports our first amendment right to freedom of speech and religion, which i think is not only -- not only important, but foundational to our freedoms. do you think some of the things the caller did not like outweigh all that good, all those moral goods? or do you want somebody who is a sunday school teacher who can't defend the country, who wrecks the economy, and who supports abortion on demand, paid for with your tax dollars, up until the moment the baby is being born? i believe that his people and i don't care if you are a perfectly moral person, a sunday school teacher, or a saint. if you are for that, i cannot and will not support you. host: let's see if we can get a

call or two more. loretta in cleveland, ohio -- go ahead. caller: good morning. that was a smear. you want, but you don't want to deal. i can't believe some of the things that come out of your mouth this morning. host: yeah. evangelical are christian card, not standing by while black people are dying in the street. trump got kids locked up in cages. poverty across america. 40 million out of work. no health care during a pandemic. and what did he do? for today he said he was peaceful protest, and then he

had them bombed and gassed, so he could get a path over to the church. host: let you go there, the retta. last caller, ralph reed. your final thoughts. would say ising i prior to the pandemic the african-american unemployment was the lowest ever recorded, 3.5%, 3.5% for the whole country. my recollection is between 5:00 for% and 6% african-americans. the hispanic unemployment rate was the lowest ever recorded. the rise in personal income was significant, particularly for those at the lower end of the socioeconomic scale. and i was privileged to work with the president in the white house to pass the first step act, the most sweeping criminal justice reform in a generation.

it gave young blacks who had been locked up in prison and the key thrown away, often for nonviolent crimes, a second chance at life. barack obama was president for .ight years ofn joe biden was chairman the judiciary committee, he is the one who passed the crime bill that led to all this mass incarceration. i think better educational opportunities for minorities and blacks, better economic opportunity, aching the criminal justice system fair, and giving people a better chance of life if they make a mistake on all those things donald trump has been a friend of african-americans and of those who care about those issues. i just don't agree with the ofler's characterization either me or the president's policy. host: the new book is "the

forgotten country: the christian case for trump." our guest, ralph reed, faith and freedom coalition founder and chairman. thank you for being our guest this morning. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will be joined by congressman jimmy ruskin of maryland talking about the protests after the murder of george floyd, and about the federal response to the coronavirus pandemic and has worked of the special subcommittee. more of your phone calls is washington journal moves ahead. ♪ ♪ "q&a," peggyht on , daughter of george wallace, talks about her book, --controversial

controversial life and her book. the martin luther king historical site in atlanta. to his to his church and grave, and then we went over to the museum. it was newly constructed at that time. and we came to the exhibit, the alabama exhibit. it showed the edmund pettus bridge, the 15th street baptist church, fire hoses and dogs in birmingham, and george wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. and george looked up at me and said -- he was so sad. why did pa go do those things to other people? and it broke my heart, and i never told me what he

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clashes escalate. clashes between police and the public intensified monday night as largely peaceful daytime protests descended into violence and chaos after dark, despite widespread curfews and national guard deployments. as the mayhem spread, and police escalated their use of force, authorities said they were under assault. one officer was shot on the las vegas strip and the police chief in st. louis said "some coward fired shots at officers, and now we have four in the hospital." video captured a car in new york mowing down an officer who suffered serious injuries. in buffalo, two officers were struck a car during a confrontation at a police station. authorities in seattle said writers pelted officers with rocks and fireworks and tried to break through a fence near a police station. president trump announced yesterday further federal response to the unrest. here is part of what he said in

the rose garden. pres. trump: america needs creation, not destruction, cooperation, not contempt, security, not anarchy, healing, not hatred, justice, not chaos. this is our mission, and we will .ucceed 100% we will succeed. our country always wins. that is why i am taking immediate presidential action to stop the violence and restore security and safety in america. they are mobilizing all available federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson, and to protect the rights of law-abiding americans, including your second amendment rights. therefore, the following measures are going into effect immediately.

first, we are ending the riots and lawlessness that has spread throughout our country. we will lend it now. today, i have strongly recommended to every governor to deploy the national guard in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets. mayors and governors must establish an overwhelming law enforcement presence until the violence has been quelled. if a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residence, then i will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem for them. host: president trump from yesterday. here on "washington journal," we are joined by congressman jamie raskin, who represents the maryland suburbs. thanks for being with us this morning. guest: thank you for having me. host: let's start first with your thoughts on what the

president said in his statement from the rose garden last night. momentwell, we are in a of profound national danger and trauma, because of the president's aggressive actions and bellicose statements, filled with violent imagery. he is obviously itching to send the military out to take down totally lawful protests and first amendment activity by the absolutend that is an danger. it is also a moment of opportunity, because hundreds of thousands of mostly young people have taken to the streets to brutal killing of officerloyd by a police with others watching. it's galvanized the country, and we are in a very serious national conversation and

dialogue right now about what needs to be done in order to ofp this continuing pattern racist assaults and murders on african-americans in different parts of the country. it, is the positive part of that this could be a moment of great national redemption for us. we have a president who of course has brought us to the brink of absolute catastrophe on different fronts. we nearly have 2 million people who have been sickened in the covid-19 pandemic, with more than 105,000 dead. we have 40 million people who have been thrown out of work. i remember when republicans were calling for president obama's resignation during the ebola crisis when we lost two people. now, we have lost more than 100,000 americans, and the president is doing everything in his power to distract and divert attention from that, and wants

to re-create himself as a law and order president -- the same president who has been taking millions of dollars from the government, unconstitutionally, at is hotels and golf courses. the same president who has been taking millions of dollars from states. we need to establish real law and order, which means the constitution and the rights of the people, and we need to reform the criminal justice system to get us out of this nightmare. host: our guest is a constitutional law professor as well. --the covid-19 subcommittee first, how do you see congress responding to the racial tensions in terms of any legislation that might be developed? guest: i think there is great momentum building in the house of representatives to pass a comprehensive package of criminal justice reforms to move the country forward, so that we

never see a broad daylight murder of a citizen again by a police officer. and it doubled as a racial lynching. i think it brought back the most horrifying memories for tens of millions of americans. there in the process, in house judiciary committee, in the oversight committee, the congressional black caucus, everyone is galvanized to focus on what is the set of reforms that we need. we need strict rules against the force,lethal and violent so that violent force can only most extreme and life,ituations to protect to save someone else from a lethal attack. what we saw with the officer was rather a police officer which subdued a suspect, and for eight or nine minutes pressed lethally on his neck with his knee, and

the whole world so that killing. that second-degree murder, by the way, should not be charged as manslaughter. it was a deliberate killing in broad daylight, and everyone saw it. that should be charged as a second-degree murder. we need a ban on choke holds and stranglehold's. these are the kind of categorical, bright line rules we need to institute across the country, to prevent a recurrence of this. we need aggressive discipline and removal of cops who have a record of civilian complaints against the. officer shaaban -- the officer had a bunch of complaints against him and had been implicated in the deaths of other civilians. there is no reason he should have been on the force, much again.le to kill we need a nationwide list of cops who have been dismissed or

disciplined, so an officer does not get removed in one jurisdiction and suddenly resurface as a police officer in another, only to continue that pattern of behavior. i was on a commission in maryland five years ago, after the killing of freddie gray, and the bad news is, there is not one single thing you can do to end this. the good news is that lots of things together work to change the culture of policing and to immediately isolate and expel bad cops whose conduct and behavior can become contagious. we saw the way officer chauvin was protected by three officers who just stood there, almost like gang members, watching another officer kill a man. we need to move very quickly again. but a lot of things can be done. in maryland, we abolished mandatory minimum drug sentences. we reformed the marijuana laws.

too often, marijuana arrests and prosecutions are a gateway to criminalizing the minority population. african -- it is not that african-american and hispanic youth use more than white youth, but enforcement is targeted at them. host: i want to quickly turn to the other topic we want to talk to you about. you sit on the select subcommittee on coronavirus. briefly, what has that subcommittee been focusing on? anti-swampre the committee, you know? we have trillions of dollars going out the door. it stands to reason, based on past experience, that when the government is spending a lot of money, there are people who are going to want to use that for the purposes of self-dealing and sweetheart contracts, and waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars. example, the deputy white house chief of staff left his job in 11 days later resurfaced for the first time as a government

contractor, and got a contract to $3 million to bring ppe navajo nation's. what do you know? more than a quarter of the ppe's were completely unusable and ppe's were completely unusable and flawed, and yet he made off with millions of dollars. in a pandemic, to exploit the taxpayers -- we do not want the money going to the greediest people and corporations. we want it going to the neediest small businesses, and the unemployed, and the people who have need to get through this. at the same time, we are going to work hard to make sure the country actually comes up with a national testing and contact tracing and quarantine strategy, which the executive branch of government has failed to come up with. at every point, we have seen a series of excuses. we have seen the president

praising the chinese government in january, february, march. basically, we don't have a strategy and we don't have a plan. we want to work on making sure the taxpayer dollars are zealously protected at the same time we bear down and make sure we get a real testing, contact tracing, public health strategy to get out of this nightmare. host: our phone lines for your comments and questions for representative raskin --(202) 748-2001 four republicans. for democrats. welcome on the republican line. good morning. caller: good morning, representative. long-winded.be as far as spending for the covid virus, everybody knows that when the federal government starts spending money on that kind of

stuff, 80% or 90% of it is totally wasted. i wish you guys would stop wasting money like that by just throwing money hand over fist to nobody. if i remember right, the sayingnt was prompt in that -- he called on the federal law people to investigate that stuff in minnesota, because he was sickened by it also. this is what i really called to say. was listening to a radio show yesterday and a guy says -- when you are talking about all of these rioters -- they said only a small percentage of them were causing problems. why are they all getting trouble? go and letl let you congressman raskin respond. guest: thank you for all those interesting points. first of all, those were public health expenditures on disease,

which are extremely effective and efficient. you only have to look as long ago as the ebola crisis. the dollar spent their allowed us to stop a pandemic from taking over our country. toy two americans were lost that. i can see your point that the trumpet ministration has done a terribly inefficient job and has really demonstrated legal incompetence in administering it. i do not think that is inherent to a democratic government. you can look to other cases including the aids crisis, where federal public expenditures can end up being very effective in terms of stopping a disease. secondly, we have under the first amendment the right of speech, to peacefully assemble, to petition government. nothing is more american than that. yesterday, when the president of the united states ordered national guardsmen to use teargas and physical force to

clear the streets so he could cross the street to go to the st. john's church and wave a bible, that was a brutal violation of the first amendment. he violated the first amendment to cross the street and violate the first commandment by elevating his political agenda above the lord of the bible. there is violence taking place out there. of course, the best majority of people are not involved in violence, just the way the majority of cops are not involved in police killings and brutality. we are talking about very small numbers of people who are engaged in violence out there. we know a lot of white supremacists have been encouraging people to go undercover and try to act as provocateurs and break windows and so on. i saw footage yesterday of nonviolent protesters apprehending a masked, disguised person who was breaking up the sidewalk to try to create bricks

to throw, and they turned that person over to police. it will probably be a long time for they figure out exactly where this violence is coming from. i know the great social movements of american history, like civil rights movements in the 1960's, the movements that transformed america, have been devoted to nonviolence. if this president, who is promoting violent imagery and talk, and seems to enjoy describing white supremacists as very good people -- either way, he described as good people the armed militiamen who shut down andminnesota legislature urge the governor to make a deal with them. obviously took a very different attitude toward those armed protesters who showed up to shutdown down the michigan legislature. host: we will go next to eric, in lakeland, minnesota. good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. good morning, america. a quick two questions for "washington journal," which i

have been a devoted observer of four 25 years. called in 25 times. what is going on in the background? what is the three-year construction project? are funded by the cable television companies, but you are constantly quoting "the washington post" and "the new york times." investigativeand reporting, anonymous sources are things you have been repeating now for three and a half years. maybe your producer should do the research before you pass that information on. host: quick response on the first question, the project behind us is the senate park and the reconstruction of the parking garage and the entire park at the senate. variety ofuse a sources here on "washington journal," but we appreciate and welcome your comments and criticism. you have a question for congressman raskin?

caller: i have a comment. swamp -- he is one of the biggest swamp monsters in the swamp. you were an impeachment manager. i would give one example just to prove my point today on something you just said that was inaccurate. yourprojections, manipulation, and your propaganda is hurting our country. we were dividing us by what we do. -- but what you do. i hope your family is proud of you. i just saw the mayor of washington, d.c. on "morning joe," and she said the national guard was not used yesterday, and you just said they were. that's called propaganda manipulation, and you are a very good one at that. but you should have been a hollywood actor and not a politician. host: we will let the congressman respond. there was video of troops, national guard or otherwise, coming into the white house yesterday. congressman raskin, go ahead. guest: it was reported, and i think the white house confirmed,

it was national park service police and national guardsmen, because the district of columbia is not a state. it does not require the mayor to call them up. the first inaccuracy is when you said that i was an impeachment manager. i was not an impeachment manager. i'm a member of the house judiciary committee. i brought the impeachment legislation, the resolution, to the rules committee. but i was not an impeachment manager. as for the rest of it, i'm afraid you and i are going to have to disagree. thank you for suggesting that i be a hollywood actor. i think that is the first time i have heard that. host: president trump tweeting and saying that d.c. had no problems last night. any arrests. great job done by all. overwhelming force, domination. great.e, minneapolis was "thank you, president trump," he tweets. is representative raskin surprised at the level of chaos that has engulfed so many cities? you talked about this a bit.

who are the instigators? unfortunately, this has been a chaos president from the beginning, and this is a chaos presidency. i think that the response to the pandemic has been utterly chaotic. the president who is eager to activate a two century old insurrection act is reluctant to activate the defense logistics act so we can mobilize the manufacturing sector to produce the ppe's and ventilators and testing kits that we need. with complete chaos on the public-health front, the president lurches from crisis to crisis. it does not surprise me that he has brought us to this point where he is threatening to send the military into the states without the application of the legislature. as you know, article four, section four of the constitution , the republican guarantee

clause, says that the united states must guarantee to the people of the states a republican form of government, and may send in force upon application of the legislatures or the executives if the legislatures can't meet. i don't know of any state legislatures that have met to as the president to send troops in. this president again is trying to distract everyone from the terrible failures of his administration to meet the public-health needs and economic health needs of the people, as 3 million unemployed americans are trying to figure out what to do, as we have 2,000,002nd americans , and families are mourning the death of more than 105,000 people in this crisis. fromresident is lurching crisis to crisis. we will hear from janice on our democrats line. caller: in 1989, donald trump

stated, "an educated black in 1999, i used to work in westchester, and a coworker would drop me off at fdr. one date they dropped me off and --lock ahead they were doing checking for drunk drivers. i got out of the car with two bags for macy's. stopped meofficer and he asked me where i was coming from and i said my friend got me off. he said can i see some id? i got a knot in my stomach. he said can you show me some id or you will be arrested. i was in the middle of the block and traffic was going by. it was the most embarrassing thing good i had to go in my bag and i had to show the officer id

so i could continue to walk. happened, we get nuts in our stomach. say we hear mitch mcconnell that our first back president is term andg to do one wouldn't do anything to help. we didn't have and the structure for eight years. say thenancy pelosi coronavirus pandemic is spreading into minority neighborhoods because there is no testing. it is spreading because we have no infrastructure and no transit system. everybody is piled up on buses and trains because there are people in washington who won't past the bill. host: we will let you go there. congressman raskin. rep. raskin: thank you for the excellent point. the daily indignities

experienced by african-american and other minorities is actually correct. you would not have hundreds of thousands or millions of people in the streets over this one was,ng, as gruesome as it if millions of people did not feel as if there is systemic institutionalized racism and a lot of police forces. your point is also correct that u.s. citizens have the right to walk really on the street. this is a point that i fought that president trump was making just a few weeks ago when he was attacking public health orders. people have the right to walk freely on the street and to speak and peaceably assemble. now because the president doesn't like what they are saying, he has decreed himself a law and order president, despite of the correction in his

administration and the staph infection that pervades everybody in the white house. ordernks he is a lot in president and thinks he can tear up the constitution and five point first amendment rights. we need to put people back to work and we need an infrastructure health plan and roads and highways and transit systems. that is what we should be working on. we need a real strategy and a plan and we are not getting it out of this white house. host: we will have from lisa on the independent line from texas. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: i have numerous comments. there has been so much discussed. that if the v.a. would have done their job and charged those men for helping kill that gentleman, this wouldn't have happened.

was just it is not if it was going to happen but when. with all due respect, mr. trump wanted this and now he's got this. my burning comment was for the was,ous guest and that when it comes to mr. trump, , and theree thing hatesx things that god and that is sowing discord among his brother and. he has done that day one. he wanted this and know he has got this. we need to stop a sides and start praying. host: congressman, let me ask theabout the charging of police officers in the george floyd case in minneapolis. what was your reaction to how the local law enforcement handle that case and what do you think

the federal response or justice department response should be? guest: the prosecutor's office engaged in fatal dillydallying and hesitation and equivocation. we see it too often in cases like this where local and state authorities do not want to go after and investigate a case where police officers are implicated in the death of civilians. it was those several days of equivocation and hesitation are people were afraid a cover-up was underway that galvanized public in people focused on it. the internet has also helped to ofng light -- to light some seen practices by bad cops and eight they have embarrassed good cops. i am encouraged by all of the police officers who are taking a need to demonstrate solidarity with protesters around the

country and saying this is not what law enforcement is all about. , if youer is right don't have equal justice, that is a basic good that the people are guaranteed. you will get anger in outrage in the streets you will get mass protest. the government cannot deliver the most basic goods to the people, protection against disease, against random gun violence, and equal administration of the laws because of the constant massaging and stimulation of racist feeling in the public. ever since charlottesville, he saw good people in the neo-nazis that assembled to march. host: a question from steve says -- how long should this be allowed to continue without government intervention, one

year, two years? you said they were exercising their first amendment rights but they are breaking curfew laws. you agree with that? guest: i am not talking about the rioters or the white supremacists who have come out to provoke violence or anyone instigating violence. the vast majority of protesters are nonviolent. that is the spirit which they are acting and should be acting read anyone who shop lives should be picked up for shoplifting just like any police officers who kills a civilian should be charged with murder. anybody who burns down a is isng, whether it anyone, should be brought up on charges of arson. vast georgia people are just protesting. that is what the first amendment guarantees us, the right to peaceably assemble and petition your own government for grievances this is a democratic

society. a lot of the police officers in minneapolis appear to be targeting reporters now, people who are exercising not the right to exercise in speech but the right to free pass -- press to report. how long should we allow protests? forever. we should always have protests in america. that is what makes america great . dr. king said what makes america great is the right to protest for what is right. the thirde raskin of district come think you for being with us on "washington journal." guest: thank you for having me. host: we will continue more on your calls and the president's comments. for eastern and central time zones. (202) 748-8001 or mountain and pacific. we will be right back.

>> sunday night on q&a, peggy wallace kennedy, daughter of former four term alabama governor and presidential candidate george wallace, talks about her father's controversial career and what inspired her to write her recent book, the broken road. in 1996, we took our young son who was nine at the time to the martin luther king museum historical site in atlanta. to the grave and over to the museum. it was newly constructed at that time. the exhibit. to bobhowed the ridge and the -- bombed out church, fire

hoses. standing.lace was said, looked up at me and he was so sad. that is powerful. it broke my heart. said, he never told me why you did those things to other people, but i know he was wrong. maybe it will just have to be up to you and me to help make things right. >> watch sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. a loss of confidence in the institutions, a wave of cynicism that has left us unable to trust what we are told by anyone who calls themselves an expert. it becomes very difficult for us

to rise to a challenge this. the first reaction is to say, they are lying to us and our only in it for ourselves. a lot of our institutions have to take on the challenge of persuading people that they exist for us interview for the country. >> sunday at noon eastern on conversation.ve his most recent book is "a time to build." debateinclude "the great kunkel and the fractured debate -- debate kunkel and the -- watch on c-span two. host: back to your calls, congressman jamie raskin mentioned this in the previous conversation. this headline from "usa today in iowa, police and protesters neil

led and ended in peaceful kneeled.y as police at the top of the hour, we hope to take you live to the capital to hear from speaker pelosi and what they call an enrollment ceremony for legislation to pass last week. byalso will cover comments joe biden who released a statement on the killing of george floyd and to the additional action by the white house announced yesterday. the former vice president saying this in his statement, "i can't breathe, i can't breathe." 's last words didn't die with him they are being heard and echoing across the nation. -- his last words didn't die with him. they are being heard and echoing across the nation. it speaks to a nation are over

100,000 people who have lost their lives to a virus and 400,000 people have filed for unemployment. the disproportionate amount is concentrated in the black and minority communities and speak to a nation where every day millions of people in the course of living their life are saying to themselves, i can't breathe. the force -- former vice president saying it is a with a call for our nation for all of us. former vice president biden speaking today and we will cover the speech and have it later in the program. to your calls, rochester, minnesota. good morning. caller: good morning. i have two comments i wanted to make. a lot of americans listen to the radio and watch tv and if they would watch the tv stations that show president and his actions, like his speech last night that was very

un-american, they would be more aware and more knowledgeable than they are. the other thing that dawned on me is that ever since there have been court cases where the white man has been freed and the black .an is guilty it has been that way, with zimmerman with an actual murder. murdered a black man and went free. if there is the opposite where a white man is killed, the black man is always considered guilty. that has got to stop. the american people, when they sit on a jury, it is a very troubling thing, because it is a heavy weight on your shoulders. they are not doing this in the way it was intended.

american people, do the right thing. if the man is guilty, finding -- find him that way. if they are innocent find them innocent if they are black or white. and trump in his speech is scaring people away he does with his rhetoric. he keeps people from doing the right thing. trent inwill go to cottage grove, wisconsin. caller: i am calling in regards to covid. has madeesident trump some clear errors in his stay in office. the way i will look at it, his speech yesterday on trying to be dominant and taking care of this problem, i am a skilled tradesman. off,e been let go or laid

probably not going back to my job. who will have the money to rebuild the places that are being wrapped and how am i supposed to get a job with everything wrecked? see the vandalism and all of the other stuff. hasve been one person who been accused of a crime running a pressure washing company in the middle of the winter in minneapolis. i was pushed down into inches of snow because the steam was coming out of the building. there were two officers on the back of my neck. i could still breathe with the slush in my nose. i was not guilty of robbing a store or starting it on fire, but when they say black lives matter, i was abused by the same police officers you are talking

about in minneapolis. heath inere is alabama. here is heath in alabama. caller: president trump in the last couple of weeks talked --ut how he thought host: you are on the air, go ahead. caller: i have heard president trump speak about the world cup cop in minnesota murdering that man and resident trump does know about rogue cops. here andeople call in bash president trump.

i want the people in this biden, a- google joe big 10 football star in high school, trakstar, he got a draft star, he got a draft card. he claimed he couldn't go into the service because of childhood asthma. you just keep on with it and read your washington post in your new york times. you are corrupt and liars. host: to doug in muskegon, oklahoma. egee, oklahoma. caller: i have never heard the .ord taser host: what word? caller: the word taser, the

officers have. i assume it is still legal. i assume if somebody could tell me. host: to nevada. thank you for your time. i wanted to say a couple of common. i wanted to send a prayer out for everyone is suffering. 50 million americans out of work . i would like to say that coming out of washington has been bickering and bickering and politicizing this tragedy. they haven't addressed the issues or focusing their energy and it is hard for me. mym very upset paired i love country and i'm proud to be an american.

it is very shameful the cowardly -- our government is nothing done. deemed aned, i am essential worker. there is not testing for us. there is not anything, and the poorest and the people who have no housing, there is no testing. it sounds like communism, but we need to talk about rental prices and housing prices in the attack on the poor and the lowest classes in america. it is sad. i listened to all of the people from all over the country, we need our politicians to not be cowards. they may have to sacrifice their own careers, but we have cowards leading us and it is sad. i am sorry for that. host: thank you for that.

jimmy in somerville, massachusetts. go ahead. thank you for having me on. am with an organization that focuses on poverty. i would like to observe that it seems the kind of administration that spent more in military force in property damage in the last week than foreign aid throughout the entire covid crisis. thank you very much. host: thank you for the call. it is election day in eight states and the district of columbia, primary day across the country. we are joined by a reporter in analyst. key races going on, even though it is primaries. let's focus on the two races in

iowa, republican congressman steve king and the senator from iowa, joni ernst. king isongressman steve a nine term incumbent from the fourth district, with this in your -- which is the northwestern corner of iowa. he has long been a controversial member of congress. he has a history of making statements that border or into openly racist territory and he has a history of supporting white nationalists candidates in europe and canada. he has long been a thorn in the side of the republican party. he has never had a tough election until recently. in 2018, he was dropped by the .epublican repaint -- campaign points.y just three

after he won, he turned around and gave an interview to the new york times where he defended white nationalism and white supremacy. following that interview, the house republican caucus stripped him of all of his committee assignments. now he is a man without any committee assignments. he used to be on the agriculture committee which is important to iowa. he is no longer on the agriculture committee. republicans have decided they are done with him. around a coalesced challenger who is a state senator. he is now giving king the most competitive election he has ever had in his two decade political career. host: on the senate side, joni ernst, no serious competitor in that primary. she is more concerned about the democrat challenge in iowa. tell us about that. guest: joni ernst, it is her

first term in the senate. she will be the republican nominee. it is more crowded field on the democratic side. there are four major candidates running for the democratic nod. the national campaign committee has already endorsed a candidate, businesswoman teresa greenfield, and spent a lot of money between the campaign committee and then one of the major democratic super pac's in bolstering her candidacy in the primary. she still has to face three other candidates. there is michael franken, a retired navy admiral, eddie morrow, a local businessman, and kimberly grab, an attorney. the trick here with this particular primary is that the winner has to get over 35% if they want to win outright. doesn't, if greenfield,

who is accepted as the front-runner, doesn't hit that threshold, the top two candidates go to a nominating convention, where it will be much more difficult to secure the nomination, because it will be party activists deciding and not the entire voting electorate. host: are there any races, particularly on the house level, that you are looking at that could be surprises? i am thinking of the joe crowley race when he lost in the primary, the eric cantor race when he lost. any potential for those in-house races across the country? guest: i think the one that kind of fits on that level is the house majority leader in maryland's fifth district. he is facing primary challenge from a woman named michaela wilkes. a does fit into the vein of

young progressive woman of color challenging a pretty entrenched establishment figure. i don't think anyone would call steny hoyer a moderate, but he is the most establishment, old-school of the democratic politicians like joe crowley. there.s upset potential what you have to remember is after aoc caught the world by surprise with her win over joe crowley, since that moment, all of these numbers have been on high alert for these kinds of challenges. general feeling is that crowley dropped the ball and none of these members nowadays are really going to make the kind of mistakes that he potentially made in 2018. host: last question about mail-in voting. some states have gone to all mail-in voting. biggest testke the

so far for mail-in voting across the country. guest: i think it will be an interesting experiment. .here is no other way to put it this is an unprecedented level of mail-in voting. it will be a stress test for the election system and these various states, whether they can process and officially count all of these ballots. this means the result we see tonight may not be the final results. just to keep a little bit of caution when you are seeing the numbers come in, even if it says 100% precincts reporting, that might include maryland ballots and the numbers may come in over the next couple of days. host: our guest reporter and analyst jacob rubashkin , we appreciate you joining us. hope to hear from you again. guest: thank you. host: we are going to take you live to the capital in a bit. the speaker of the house, nancy

pelosi, will conduct an enrollment ceremony for a measure passed last week, the first on the new proxy voting rules on sanctions against chinese officials and condemning the violence and treatment of the population in china. that is coming shortly. donaldet to a call from and bellefontaine, ohio. caller: my question is -- why haven't we seen anybody cam -- cam of the altercation between the two for the incident happened, and also, i understood the two were acquaintances and knew one another. host: i am not sure about the bodycam. some of that footage has been available from other officers on the scene.

both the washington post and the new york times have done a reconstruction of that, which they put into video pieces which you can find online. carrollton, texas is next. caller: i wanted to make a comment. youink in every presidency see some sort of catastrophe leadershipalong that needs to be shown. you are seeing what kind of leader donald trump is, stating he will bring in the military to stop protests is militarizing law enforcement and invading our lives. even if he wants to be a wartime president. pieces, twole of different conservative opinions about president trump. let's start with the washington post. headline on his opinion piece is "four more years of this."

ae president is seeking reelection. this year, most year, perhaps they predicted wary from the winning might flinch. the taste of ashes, metaphorical, and not literal spiral andnation's downward sporadic anarchy has had many consequences much larger than the small man who is the great exacerbate her of them, most of them predating his presidency and will survive its january terminus. that's part of the editorial from the washington post. from townhall.com commentator mark davis with his piece posted this morning, how to flip a narrative in one productive day. and at the end of his piece he writes that after president

containing ah commitment to mobilizing federal troops in order to maintain order, trump strode through the park to stand for about 30 seconds in front of the church, a bible in his hand. "we have the greatest country in the world," he told reporters and "we are going to keep it safe," then he walked away, leaving his opponents barely a moment. pissded that "many folks on the bible and if he used it hisome crop, -- prop, message was as simple as it was president; this is god's house, we will not allow violence to poison the american discourse. at that moment, there were two communities americans could join.

one agreement with the statement or the one opting for coddling of riots in the embrace of measures insufficient to stop them. on the third of november, memories should still be fresh of who was in which group." to paul in south carolina, go ahead. caller: yes, good morning. i've been listening the last and i'veo over c-span heard a lot of politicians use the term "economic equality." i'm not sure what that means, can you help me out? host: what do you think it means? knew or ill, if i thought i knew, i think that everybody, if you're talking about the quality meaning people of equal qualifications should earn equal amounts of money, well, i think that's a good starting point, but it's not the

only one. host: tennessee, go ahead. caller: good morning. i need to say that in regards to what our president did, it was not respectful to the people that believe in christianity as he talked about opening up the churches. what church has he attended? the second thing, the people that are out writing and protesting, that is just -- rioting and protesting, that is just fine, but who has a table set for a person to register to vote for any other primaries in november? and lastly, i think that if rome is burned down and he is sitting on the throne watching a burn -- throne is sitting on the

watching it burn. host: john in ohio, you're on the air. one more time, you there? we will john go. one quick comment here, the caller mentioned this about churches opening, this is from usa today. justices won't speed church reopening. courtly divided supreme refused to allow churches in california and illinois to reopen amid the coronavirus pandemic, with more more super than the state plans to permit. justice john roberts cast the deciding vote in the consequential california case and announced just before midnight that choosing when to lift restrictions during a pandemic is the business of elected officials, not unelected judges. he was joined in the vote by four liberal justices. oregon, good morning. caller: yes.

i have a question. and i will try to stay it clearly, but i would really like there have been hundreds of blacks murdering each other in chicago. i think the last total i heard year,00 and so far this it's 300 blacks shooting each other over drugs and so forth and nobody is even aware of it or mentions it or does anything about it. host: just to let you know, we are back tomorrow morning with more of your calls and comments as we are every day.

7:00 a.m. eastern, really appreciate you joining us this morning on washington journal. we will see you tomorrow. we are going to take you next to the capital, to the speaker's office, the enrollment ceremony about to get underway for legislation condemning the treatment of the population in china, a measure passed by the house last week. >> check, 1, 2, 3.

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ceremony with nancy pelosi to get started. the bill passed the house last week by proxy voting. it would require some u.s. government organizations to report on the treatment of internment camps in china. the speaker may also talk about recent protests following the death of george floyd. you're watching live coverage on c-span. check, check.

>> my check -- mike check -- mic check. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for being here as we enrolled our bill. this is legislation regarding the human rights policy act. withere with my colleagues whom i've worked for decades on human rights in china and the world. this legislation sends a clear message to the government of china