senate will hold hearings on the federal response to the coronavirus and law-enforcement accountability. tuesday at 2:30 p.m., eugene scalia testifies on the cares act on the role of unemployment insurance during the coronavirus pandemic. wednesday, 10:00 a.m. eastern live on c-span, the house judiciary committee hearing on policing practices and law enforcement accountability. also a 10:00 a.m. eastern, secretary of the treasury, steve mnuchin, testifies before the senate small business committee on the occasion of title i -- on the implementation of the title i of the cares act. you can watch online at c-span.org or listen live on the free c-span radio app. to give you a sampling of what is going on across the country when it comes to the defunding movement, you can go to minneapolis, where, as a backdrop, the city council is

pledging to begin that process of disbanding the police department. at a minneapolis, the mayor asks questions about this idea of defunding the police department. he talked to protesters gathered outside his house. you can see that this morning. you saw this effort start in los theles a few days ago with l.a. city council introducing a motion to reduce police funding as calls to defund the lapd echoed at protests. you can even see it played out in portland, oregon. a decision by leaders in that city, the superintendent of schools saying he will discontinue the presence of armed police officers at schools. if you want a working definition , one is being offered by georgetown law. she has this is a working andnition, saying defunding abolition mean something different than what you are thinking. for most proponents, defunding the police does not mean zeroing

all budgets for public safety and police abolition does not mean police will disappear overnight or perhaps ever. the police means shrinking the scope of police response abilities and shifting what government does to keep us saved entities better equipped to meet the need. it means investing more in mental health care and housing and expanding the use of community mediation and violence interruption programs. you can read that. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. democrats, (202) 748-8000 independents, (202) 748-8002. if you're a member of law enforcement, it is (202) 748-8003. as we line up those calls, we will talk about that effort on capitol hill today when it comes to police reform efforts. joining us for that conversation, mike liles of the

hill, their senior reporter. guest: thanks for having me. host: talk about what we are expected to see later this morning. guest: democratic leaders have been working on this package for weeks. it is an enormous reform package focused on criminal justice. the congressional black caucus has been taking the lead, making phone calls within the democratic ranks and outside with civil rights leaders and police unions. immediate sense, it is a direct response to the specific acts of violence against african-americans that have turned headlines in recent weeks. that is george floyd in minnesota and breonna taylor in kentucky and ahmaud arbery georgia. things like aee ban on true colds, which is relevant to the floyd case, and a ban on no knock warrants in drug cases, pertinent to the taylor case, and to make

lynching a national crime, which is relevant to the arbery case in georgia. we are going to see specific, tailored legislation to address these specific cases. they often working on these bills for years. a lot of this is going to look familiar. the ban on show colts has been around since the death of eric garner -- choke holds has been around since the death of eric garner. house democrats of already passed the antilynching piece of this, sent it to the senate. by including it in this package, they are just putting more pressure on senate republicans to act. is the publiced reaction to the death of george floyd, the vastness of the outcry in the united states and beyond. veteran of the civil rights movement and member

of the congressional black caucus and third ranking democrat in the house, said we have not seen anything like this since emmett till in 1955. of civils, the voice rights in the house, took that a step further than i have seen ever in my lifetime. they sent a historic moment here, so democrats are hoping to tap the unique outcry, the unique moment. pelosi often says public sentiment is everything. they do want to force the republicans to take up some of these reforms were at least to make the gop look insensitive and out of touch for not doing so. host: we will see democrats present this. how much response has it gotten from republicans in the house and senate? guest: kevin mccarthy has said he wants to work with the democrats on something, but this is not a bipartisan bill.

it is going to be bigger than the republicans want to do. senate, where the republicans have leverage, control of the chamber, mitch mcconnell has said we need to take a look. that is sometimes a euphemism for not doing much at all. we will have to see how much pressure is on them to do anything. the wildcard is going to be donald trump, who has taken a hard line approach to law enforcement even as the marchers have gone around the country. you saw attorney general william barr said yesterday that racism is not systemic in the criminal .ustice system because so many of these reforms are designed to root out systemic racism, i do not know how much support the ministration is one to give for these ideas -- the administration is going to give for these ideas.

it is going to be an issue of public pressure and how much mitch mcconnell response. you can expect this house package to pass this month. losey wants to do it before the end of the month -- pelosi wants to do it before the end of the month. how many republican votes is yet to be seen. they might get a handful, but not an overwhelming number. then how long these protest endure emma how long this story remains in the headlines -- indoor, how long this are made to the headlines. host: one of the issues on the line is this concept of qualified immunity especially as it applies to police officers. does this bill address that? it does focus on criminal justice reform. they are revising federal statutes around excessive force, including racial profiling, police brutality. they want a federal database of

abusive law enforcers so they are not being fired in one city and hired in another. limits on be new qualified immunity, which is this liability thing that has been controversial for years that says a police officer in most cases cannot be sued for actions he or she takes while in the line of duty. they want to change that language so victims can sue in cases of an abusive arrest or violent arrest or the family consume in the case of a death, like we saw in minnesota. that will be there, among other things. host: that bill is set to be unveiled later this morning. mike liles following it for the hill. thanks for your time -- mike lillis following it for the hill. thanks for your time. the concept of defunding the

police, whether you support or oppose it, is what we are asking. , (202) 748-8002. if you are member of law enforcement, (202) 748-8003. in connecticut, republican line, cindy. caller: good morning. i believe the overreach. overreach is going to not help. up -- igoing to end believe we need reform. -- theo away with unions unions because that is what really to me why they do not get a conviction. hardthing with why it is to fire a bad teacher. host: but when it comes to the

budget, do not touch it? is that what you're saying? caller: i don't know if it is do not touch it at all, but we are not stopping there. it is called to dismantle the police department. it is not just defunding the police. i do not know if anybody is addressing that, totally abolishing police. there are a lot of calls to that. host: we have a couple headlines to that idea. caller: that is a thing that concerns me, dismantling the police. who is going to do their work? do you think social workers are prepared to do a lot of policing? they do not do a great job now. host: we will go to michigan under troy. dan, good morning. response had a scripted and then i googled your name. if you google your name, there is a story in 2017 about a guy named pedro echevarria who was killed by police in los angeles.

it is an interesting story of a guy who was walking home. they got into an altercation in the police ended up killing him. ishink the easiest solution if there were no police, there would not have been a problem. once the police approach this man and he had a gun, there was an issue. i think we can move to a society where it is everyone for themselves. if you have an issue with somebody, that is something you have to defend yourself. host: you are saying to fund totally, then -- d fund, then. caller: yes. i'm calling for the abolishment of -- in this case, the police caused a death and there are cases where the police prevent deaths, but i think it is a net zero. you have to have a society where everybody has a gun or nobody has a gun. cecil, democrats line.

black once said a soul left in darkness will commit sin. he will come a sin is not a guilty one but who -- he who creates the darkness. darkness intes housing, etc.. regarding funding the police, i think that money should go to other services. when someone has a mental illness, police funds can go into helping -- health care professionals to help or otherte the drama services to uplift children in communities that are victimized. believe 1000e, i black people were slayed at the hands of the police. have a wonderful day. host: independent line from

rafael in maryland. you are on. go ahead. i am part of law enforcement. i would not support totally defunding the police. i am in the army, so i'm not directly police person, but i would not support totally defunding the police. what i would support is de-escalation of the police. encounter a policeman on the street, they have all sorts of gear on them. have,things that they do it would be difficult for them to approach the citizen the way they do. if a policeman approaches anybody and they feel like they have a gun, i have all these tools i can use to subdue you or with the use of force than they

can do that. if a policeman has a baton and a twice.they will think my comment on this issue. host: in florida, republican line, lloyd. caller: good morning, america. host: what do you think about this idea of defund the police? caller: what i have seen on cnn and msnbc, they already want to quit using the word defund. this is another of their tricks. watch out, america. host: what do thing about the idea? caller: it is truly insane. we live in a system out here. of riverside and jacksonville it has a problem with burglaries and we need