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if you oppose them, you can call and tell us why at (202) 748-8001. perhaps you want to text us, do so at (202) 748-8003. you can post on our twitter feed, @cspanwj. facebook is available to you too, facebook.com/c-span. in a recent story the associated go back and forth over these restrictions. in georgia, the republican governor is suing the mayor of atlanta over the face mask mandate. he filed a lawsuit on thursday. louisiana,rofiled where the republican attorney general issued a legal opinion on quarantine on wednesday, stating that john bel edwards' order requiring face covers and limiting indoor gatherings is likely unconstitutional and on and or civil.

he's been in court team since -- quarantine since testing positive for the virus. those are some examples of restrictions going on when it comes to travel. the publication "philadelphia tribune" has a list of restrictions some states are imposing. alabama, arizona, delaware, florida, it goes on from there, saying that people from new york, new jersey, connecticut, must self-quarantine at their own expense when they enter florida and violators may be fined up to $500 or imprisoned for up to 60 days. the story adding that with the number of cases spiking across florida, the mayor of miami-dade ordered all short-term vacation rentals closed. some examples coming from the sunday shows, mike dewine talking about rises in coronavirus cases in his state,

and what he might possibly do to counteract that. >> we have seen that go up as the counties turn red, we are going the wrong way and at a crucial time, so this week you may see a lot more counties under the mask requirement. we would certainly not will out going statewide, looking at that. but you know, there's a lot of things going on. one of the things we have tried to do, we are running tv ads, we are going to start a new ad this coming week that we will preview on tuesday where the message really is that you wear a mask for other people, to protect your grandmother. so it's not just the order. the orders are obviously important, but getting people to buy in and understand, getting a 20-year-old to understand that he or she may feel invulnerable, like nothing is going to happen

to them, but they may get it, not know they have it, go home, see their grandmother, she may get it, she may end up dying. that's the message we are trying to get out across the state. host: there are other examples, but if you want to give us examples from your state and if you support or oppose those restrictions, the numbers are available to you if you support those restrictions, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose them, (202) 748-8001. you can always text us, tweet us, and post on our facebook page. joe, supporter of restrictions, florida. you're up first. tell us why. caller: i support. it protects your life. i mean, how many people have died? this is no joke. this is serious. protectinge you yourself, you are protecting others, your loved ones.

sense.mmon listen to the experts. don't listen to trump. that's why we have this problem. when you see the numbers, he's doing badly and he might lose because of this. this might be his downfall. when it comes to restrictions in pennsylvania, how oppressive are they? i'm originally from texas. i live in the valley. you won't believe it, i have , they have ado and in some places places it's $2500. speeding, going 50

miles per hour, i'm going to get fined, right? stopped by speeding? we have to make it strict. it protects life. it's common sense, listen to the experts. host: ok, doug, oppose, tell us why. caller: because there has been no consensus from the beginning on this. we were told not to wear a mask. that was at first. because you don't work in a hospital. they need to figure out what's going on and they can't because they don't really understand the virus yet and until they have a full profile on this virus, how it is working, how it is mutating, these restrictions going back and forth, opening things, shutting things, it's

having in adverse effect on the economy. businesses are closing for good, people are losing their jobs. devastating. the authorities who are in charge of this need to sit down and to figure out exactly what's going on to the best of their ability and then everybody needs to be consistent. host: to what extent are restrictions happening? caller: it's the governor who is laying this down and his decisions i think are politically based. he owns a winery and his winery was open when he told everyone else to shut theirs down. that's a political consideration. this county by county, and i get that, but again there needs to be consistency.

you are confusing people. you are not helping them by going back and forth. they need to get a consistent understanding and then they need to tell people -- look, this is what we are faced with. we got through the spanish flu in 1918 and yes, it was disastrous, but we got through it. doug, in san jose. mayor garcetti was on cnn, yesterday, talking about the possibility of another stay-at-home order there. [video clip] >> how much worse does it have to get in los angeles before you feel compelled to issue another stay-at-home order? >> i think we are on the brink of that, but as i told people over the last week, mayors often have no control over what opens and what doesn't and that's at a state or county level and i agree that those things happen too quickly, but we are smart

about this. it's not just about what's open and close, it's about what we do individually. the people getting together outside their households with people they might know. extended family, friends. they might think that because they got a test two weeks ago, it they are ok, but it's not. the virus preys on us when we are exhausted and have no unified national front or as individuals think this ain't going to be a big deal. we have to be as vigilant right now as we were on the first day, like we did in the first or second month. seeing hopeful signs and we have to be patient close things down. wait a few weeks for things to take effect and be patient when you reopen things so that you don't have this domino effect. last week restaurants, next week the bars, the week after that everything is open. that's a failed way to go forward. listen to the science, track the and be smart.

eddie, seattle, supporter of restrictions. high. thanks for taking my call. let's start off with something simple. just wearing the masks. things of that nature. one of the biggest problems our people are saying they want their cities and everything to open up again and they want their economy to open up so that everybody's going back to work. the most simple, basic things we have to do, we have a problem with that. just saying where the masks. that's all. people complaining about their first right amendment and i don't see nothing in the first right amendment that says it infringes on your freedom to protect number one, others from

you, and then yourself in social gatherings. if we know that this is all causing problems, why would we continue to disobey and then get upset when they won't was city shut down or estate shutdown because the pandemic is spreading? i support what we need to do to curb out this pandemic so that we can continue to move forward. jane, mount sterling, ohio. on the oppose line. caller: appreciate you having me on and doing the show. host: you're on, go ahead. caller: yes, i don't support any of the decisions being made in ohio or across the country, based on the data. ohiow that for a fact in that there have been test results that have come back as positive that are inaccurate.

i have friends that have actually had this happen. there was a friend of mine that was in line for the drive-through testing, the line was so long that she decided to not complete the drive-through testing. two days later she received in the mail a positive test result. a positive receive test result when she didn't take the test? you heardn't know if governor dewine talk about putting up more restrictions, but that's something you are opposed to as well? caller: absolutely. i live in a rural county that was one of the first counties that was put under a level three red alert. to wear is required masks. the county commissioners and health department were not even notified that he was going to put us under a level three. there was no input at all by the

county. the county does not have an increase in cases. it just so happens that the national guard was here the week before doing the drive-through testing. that just coincidental? i don't believe that our cases in ohio are increasing by the thousands every day. host: ok. jane, ohio thank you. another supporter of restrictions from palm springs. yes.r: i live through when we started having seatbelts and people thought that was, they were opposed to that. anything that saves lives, especially older people, at any age, if it saves lives, let's do it. what do we have to lose? host: you don't think it goes

too far or restricts daily living? some people have complained about that. caller: no, i'm not complaining. i'm in one of those compromised positions where whatever people are doing, thank you for wearing your mask and protecting me. thanks a lot for taking my call. ithub,he website, while ub, takes a look at restrictions, from whether daycare's have reopened to whether face masks are required in public. on the state ranking, the additional insight is from a panel of experts with methodology there on the website when it comes to the states that have the least fewest amounts of covid-19 restrictions. top of that list, south dakota. followed by wisconsin, utah, wyoming, oklahoma, arkansas,

iowa, nebraska, south carolina rounding out the top 10, states with fewest restrictions. restrictions in your state or locality, that's what you are talking about. if you support them, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose them, (202) 748-8001. you can also post on our social media, to. brian on facebook this morning saying that in maryland he supports what the governor there, larry hogan, is doing.

host: if you want to text us your thoughts, you can do so at (202) 748-8003. we will go to jan, daytona beach, florida, who opposes restrictions. good morning, go ahead. caller: how are you doing? host: i'm good, go ahead. aller: surgical masks have two macron to 10 macron filtration capacity. coronavirus is 1.12. that theo possible way masks do anything other than restrict a person's breathing. i believe the mask situation is a ruse so that when the second wave comes through, these people will not be able to handle what happens to them. you need fresh air and it won't

protect you from coronavirus. host: support line, california, hello. good -- damna dm current science denying head in a bubble americans that we are stuck with today were not needed to fight world war ii. they arepeople think such champions of american liberty and all the rest of that , if they were needed to fight the japanese empire and the nazis, today we would be speaking japanese west of the mississippi and german east of the mississippi. host: so, why do you support the restrictions? going forward, it's despairing to me. how are we ever going to make the sacrifices that we are going to need to make to beat back the carbon pollution in the atmosphere and the instruction of climate stability. of thesethe supporting

restrictions, as you called on, why do you support them specifically? caller: specifically because it is my job to protect the people around me, i wear my mask when i go out. i live in los angeles, sadly a hotspot for the year responsible people not doing that and i see that every day. i believe in doing my part and i stay in because frankly i don't need to get terribly sick and spend a big chunk of 2020 on a ventilator. party is aublican disgrace. they are going to get a lot of people killed. if the mayor puts another stay-at-home order in place, you will support that? caller: host: host: i'm sorry question mark you will support -- caller: i'm sorry? god, yes. don'tlder and retired, i have to go out and i feel sorry

for the people that do. i still use public transportation to do essential errands, but i support the stay-at-home order and i enjoy living in a world that has become a bit quieter. i've got birds on my balcony. i feed them, i can hear them sing. the only things making noise now are the damp pickup trucks and muscle cars updated with exhaust modifications. host: got you, caller. you are next up. aller: c-span, you are national treasure. i get to with listen to this stuff every morning and i love that you do both sides. that guy was talking about masks being ineffective against coronavirus. for our world war ii supporter out there, it's a scientific fact, the mask does not protect you. ok? go read a book.

my point is, the thing i would like to say is this, and i have been saying this for months, if you wash your hands and cough into your sleeve and don't sneeze in people's faces, it's just like any other virus. you're not going to infect anybody. and if you don't touch her face in your eyes in your mouth with -- when you're out, like a normal, sanitary human being, you're probably not going to catch the virus that way either. stuff, america, the hardest thing you will ever overcome in your life is fear. this is about fear. that is why you have people out there talking about how confusing it is when we get all this different information. that is being done on purpose to cause fear. host: to what end? if it's to cause fear, to what end? about: because it is

political power. that's why the guy in california was talking about how he thinks all these decisions are made for political reasons. i'm not one of those guys out there that says coronavirus is so they can stop trump from having rallies. that's not true. theif they can use coronavirus as an excuse to stop political rallies, or to disparage the president, or to disparage any republican, like the last caller, ok, they can use that for political power. they can use fear for political power. listen, look at the other instances of this. it wasn't just coronavirus. it was also russia collusion. it's all about fear. ok.: ok, west linn, michigan on the support line. high. caller: how you doing?

host: fine, thank you. go ahead. caller: i think everyone should wear a mask, political reasons or whatever. if people want this thing to go away, pull up your big boy and big boy pants -- big girl in big boy pants in do what you're told and hopefully it will work. if people don't want to follow the suggestions and recommendations of the people that know what they are talking about, this stuff ain't going to go away. why do you personally support restrictions, though? of your lastone collars, first of all, i've got to wear a mask when i go to work. i work for one of the big three. i'm used to wearing a mask. also, when you are around old asymptomatic, are

you don't want to be -- i wouldn't want to find out through contact tracing that i was the cause of somebody dying, now,now? my mother right she's got a childhood friend in the hospital right now dying in arizona. she just called and talked to her the other day and told her goodbye. someone i work with, personally, first it was either his mother and father -- does matter, his mom and dad died first, he died shortly after. you know, all these people that seem to think that this is all about conspiracy theories and all this stuff, quit the garbage talk. most of the people, you don't even know what you're are talking about. read a book. that depends on who writes the book. so, that right there.

callsjust some of the this morning, you can add those to the mix about the pandemic restrictions in your state, locality, what have you. if you support them, (202) 748-8000. if you oppose them, (202) 748-8001. you can also text or post on social media, too. trish, hawthorne, new york, you are next. caller: i want to say that this is one of the biggest satanic mankind byetrated on the elite and the political establishment and this has to do christ, ok? we have turned our backs on the lord. host: let's turn back to politics. who are the elite in this case? caller: look at u.s. patent

10.130.701 it's a patent of the coronavirus that is owned by the curb right institute, owned by crown queen elizabeth. host: you get that information from where? caller: the patent number. host: as far as where to look for it. bill and melinda gates, darpa, the united nations, who, these vaccinations that they want to stab you with. do not take them. these mandatory vaccinations? air poison, ok? host: host ok. lillian, your next. , my name is morning not lillian, it's lurline. host: sorry about that. caller: thank you for taking my call, i like your program, it's very informative. it, about the masks, i am in

i'm 80 years old, diabetic, and i found that since i'm using the masks, i feel more comfortable out there. i don't go out often, but when i do, i wear my mask. i am not interested in all these things that people talk about, turning your back on jesus, this and all of that. i'm not interested. the best governor in the world as governor cuomo because he guided new york out of this. host: do you think the restrictions go too far? caller: no. host: why not? caller: they talk about fear. you want to live. you are afraid of death, you want to live. so, if you want to live, you do all the governor tell you to do to prolong your life. it's important. live and enjoy this life.

ok, thanks for giving us a call. charleston, here, saying -- host: you saw that they are, please put your city and state when you post, you can text us at (202) 748-8003. and you can always post on our

facebook page and our twitter feed, [video clip] , @cspanwj.feed margaret, florida. caller: i'm a former new yorker and yeah, of course i support the masks. seems a small price to pay to try and keep people from getting this virus. it should be a nationwide effort, like other countries have done. and to do that, we need the person on thehe top, our president. host: when you say it is a small price to pay, we have heard other people say that it goes too far and it restricts their daily living. how do you feel about that? caller: i don't understand how

it restricts daily living. that's just not a good argument as far as i'm concerned. and it's something new, might be slightly uncomfortable, but what a price to pay for, you know, if you get this virus, the consequences are -- there's no argument. marie, next, support line, florida, high. go ahead. caller: i support wearing the masks, i support the restrictions, i support all of that. i think the country open to this -- i think the president open to country too soon. i don't thickets a hoax at all. when i see people not social distancing, not wearing masks, it's appalling. i don't see how it restrict my life or anything like that when

we were on lock down, things were calm her. the world just seemed calmer. we got back into it too fast and unfortunately i think the president did it for his own gain. host: we still see restrictions and places, but there are still rises in numbers. how do you square those? caller: restrictions and places, some of those restrictions, people are not following them. they are not being enforced. they say masks must be worn at the grocery store, ok? i see someone without a mask and i go to the manager and i say why don't they have a mask. they say, well, we don't really want to enforce it. you have to enforce some things. it may not be comfortable for us , but everything in life is not going to be comfortable. ok? we really need, there are two unknown things. i don't think it's a hoax at

all. dr. fauci? dr. fauci is a scientist. dr. fauci has been a scientist for a long, long time. ok? john, new jersey, on the oppose line. feelings have mixed about this. i think it should be up to us whether we wear a mask and i say it's the flu and the original flu before this, we can't stop. my thing is i think it should be up to us to wear a mask. if you have problems in our second everything, you should wear the mask, not everybody. you know what i'm trying to say? host: you think it should be a personal decision. caller: all the elections coming up, the governor in new jersey is ridiculous and out of his mind. why do you think he's gone

too far? caller: all these small businesses are cloning cup -- closing, going out of business and it's ridiculous. if you want to get sick, don't wear the mask. you follow what i'm saying? should be up to your judgment, not some governor who's worried about elections, you know? that's what i say. host: ok. here's frank from facebook.

host: at a recent press conference, the governor of pennsylvania defended his decision to withhold it cares act funding from some localities that didn't follow pandemic rules. [video clip] >> the letter to you on your decision to withhold the money to them, saying that close to $13 million are desperate they needed to help the business community recover and survive the ongoing restrictions. your thoughts on that decision? >> maybe you asked, or somebody asked me that decision months ago, when they said that we won't abide by the restrictions, we will make our own rules and regulations and i said, ok, then don't come and say that you want something from the state when you haven't followed the rules. there are consequences.

these are the consequences. i think i'm being consistent here. >> only one county hasn't gotten the funding. according to them. lebanon county. >> other counties made the threat but they didn't go through with it. the fact?ribution for >> it's not retribution. they made the decision. i didn't make it. i said here's the consequence if you want to do this. most of the places said they are backing down and they didn't. ok. >> two out of three commissioners have made that decision and the funding affects the entire county. >> that's right. commissioners in lebanon county, they represent them and i would think twice about reelecting them. lynn, in's hear from new york, you are next up. caller: good morning, i was happy to call in to say that i completely and thoroughly support the ban on walking

around without masks. is thatht here personally i'm a 68-year-old person with emphysema. i'm a nurse who spent my whole life trying to help care for people and educate nurses to do the same. this is a real dilemma. we have a real panic, a pandemic it going on here. in all reality, i don't want to be collateral damage to people who want the stock market to boom and to have bars and beaches open. i want to be able to live a life, to have this event be only temporary. if we don't get this under control, all of the people over 50 or people with secondary problems, will be quarantined for life.

that is collateral damage to the young, who think that this is nothing, and it just shows that they, they lack the knowledge of what a pandemic really is. lynn, in newt was york. ontario, oregon, on the oppose line. donald, hello. caller: this is don core. it's early out here, but these people talking about things like governor cuomo, saying he was a good governor, yet he caused the deaths of several thousands of people in nursing homes. host: when it comes to restrictions in opposition to that, what's your thinking? why do you oppose them? caller: [indiscernible] host: i apologize for that, you're getting very muddled. are you by a window or something?

can you go to where there's a battles -- better signal? to dr. i was talking atlas out of the hoover institute at stanford and he was saying that these masks, although they work well for some people, they don't work good for the average person. that's the main basis of your opposition or are there other factors in there? i have myso, when glasses on and get out, it fogs my glasses. i'm used to using hazardous protection. i worked in a food processing factory. there were hazardous materials. but it fogs your glasses and makes it difficult to see. and like the doctor said, it didn't really help you out. it was more for like giving people a comfort blanket. donald giving us the thoughts for some of us who wear

glasses out there. some of the issues, there. dave is next, new hampshire, bedford, hello. good morning, yes. i definitely oppose it, i think it's just a political stunt. the reason i say that is that when this all started and they released it up -- hello? host: you are still on. caller: you go into all the stores and you have somebody sitting there. you walk in the store, they are seeing if you have a mask or not and they are checking it off. what is the reason for that? far as i'm concerned, they shouldn't be checking off do you need a mask or do you not. host: you are talking about what the stores are doing? themr: yeah, i keep asking , you are doing this for masks? they say yeah. i say who are you working for and i get no answer.

so, as far as i'm concerned. host: aren't they working for the store? caller: i don't know, they wouldn't tell me. i think it is just to keep the fear factor in. that's the way the democrats work. host: another person brought this up, to keep the fear up, to what end? why do they want to keep this going? ahh, they want to keep the fear in to stop the elections into the mail-in ballots, which i think is totally wrong. all of this relates back to the mask in the restrictions issue? caller: yes. host: how do you draw a straight line between those things? to, i'mwell, i have just kind of nervous that's all. host: that's ok, wanting to know

where you are coming out as far as your perspective. dave, new hampshire. new mexico or new hampshire? caller: new hampshire. restrictions are pretty eased here. host: was then ask you that. eased. pretty and all of a sudden we have a little bit of less deaths and everything and now they are trying to put all the masks and everything on? it's ridiculous. they want the kids to go to school with masks and the kids ain't supposed to get it? i'm not for that, i'm definitely not for that. host: ok, dave, new hampshire, giving us his thoughts. we the next 20 minutes or so will continue taking your calls on this issue. by the way, congress is set to come in at 9:00 today, a two-hour show for us. when it comes those activities, u.s. capitol, flags at half

staff for the passing of representative john lewis. "the washington times" has a story taking a look at next steps when it comes to the positions held by john lewis. 100tor morton saying " potential successors have been drawn in interest. he had already won the democratic primary and the state will allow the party to replace a deceased nominee. according to a social media post, spokesperson maggie chambers had 100 and 31 candidates that had answered the call and submitted applications to be considered and she gave no names, but they outlined the process and said the names would be released today, consisting of prominent party members from the atlanta area and they will sift through the applications made through the open call on the party website.

there will be an announcement by .oon today " josh, supporting the restrictions, good morning. for taking myyou call. first of all, i'm young, i'm part of the young group. i know that everybody feels like young people don't listen, but we do listen and some of us are wearing our masks. me and my girlfriend, we have been wearing them since january since we started hearing about the virus coming from china. everyone who thinks it is a hoax, let me tell you, my cousin is a pilot and he got the coronavirus from china, he's a commercial pilot, when china wouldn't allow anybody to travel inside the country, they wouldn't allow him to go anywhere else. as a family we know it's not a

hoax. i have two uncles that live in florida and they have some people in their circles who believed it was a hoax and they were going to those covid parties. not my uncles, one of their colleagues. this guy, he worked out like six days a week, very fit, it shocked everybody, he was in his low 40's and he's dead. he went to one of those parties and he died. so, this is not a hoax. everyone needs to wear their masks, they need to sanitize their hands and then wash their hands. the hand sanitizer will build up theree virus can stay on under the film and you need to wash her hands so it goes down the drain. host: the restrictions that you talked about, what about the restrictions on gatherings and about where you can go to eat, per se? would you go that far or would you say it's all equal? myler: i'm a christian,

family are christian people. our real estate agent is christian. they are having services with teleconference. you know, everybody wants to quote the bible on here. the bible talks about looking after your fellow man. you know? taking responsibility, you know? goingi guess where i was was that local businesses would say that the closings in the restrictions, they are ultimately, there bottom line is impacted. i think it impacts the bottom line if we have less citizens that will purchase their goods. we need to take responsibility as americans, this isn't a political issue, it's a health issue. this isn't about grandma coming to thanksgiving -- this is about whether grandma can come to thanksgiving because she might pass away. host: all right. lori, on the support line, connecticut, hello. caller: high, good morning.

i want to thank josh. he is a young man who is bright and he gets it. the people who say that the don't help, it's not about the size of the virus, it's about stopping the spittle with virus attached to it. these are the same people who say to sneeze in your arm but the mask isn't going to help? i mean, come on. the bottom line is, i'm a nurse. i haven't been on the front lines, because i'm older and i don't work in a hospital. but here's the thing, the economy has a lot to do with this. if people would wear masks, we could open up more. ok? if you look at the opening of the bars, where people aren't

further apart than six feet, these states are the ones having the problems, ok eschenbach we can open restaurants here in connecticut. we can have outside service. we just started inside service, but we have to social distance. so, wearing masks allows the economy to flourish because we can start to open up. it's the people that won't follow these rules that don't get it. that just don't understand. and that are, personally, i think they are selfish. they need to understand that they are protecting themselves, others, and family, and they are protecting the economy. host: ok. dan, indiana, evansville. your next up. hello. caller: yeah. i think that the science aspect of this, i haven't heard science

being bandied about that much lately and i think it is because it's pretty clear that if you look at the science of this virus, with the things that we really know about it, the first thing we knew about the virus is that a single person started the whole thing. this all got started by one person. and in the united states, we can stay shut down and pretend we are shut down, but as long as there is one person in the united states that still has it, as soon as we start up, wherever and whenever that is, we are going to start this all over again. so, all we are doing is putting her head in the sand and pretending that if we do these things, it's going to make a difference. the area under the curve will not change. it will just be, we are dragging the curve out. so, you are advocating for no restrictions question mark lighter restrictions? how do you classify that?

caller: first of all, there's basically like three greet -- three groups of people and science is telling us this, like 90, i don't know the exact number, but 95% of the people that get this have either no symptoms or mild symptoms and they get over it without even having to go to the hospital and maybe there's another 5% or something, 4%, maybe, that have to go to the hospital. they would die if they didn't get to the hospital. and the hospital can cure them. then there are a few that are in the elderly category, which is ,here i met, and if you get it you got a real good chance of dying, doesn't matter if you go to the hospital or not. host: ok. dan, indiana, giving his thoughts. thoughts coming from the mayor of atlanta yesterday on "face the nation." they have a write up of the interview that she conducted

their, saying that the mayor dismissed efforts by the to get rid georgia of mandating masks. "a bizarre thing, the republican governor has mounted a unusual game of finger-pointing." here's a little bit from the mayor on why the infections are spiking. [video clip] >> you have been facing battles with the governor, as our viewers know. the governor said that this week it was the racial injustice protests that led to the rise of infections happening in the state right now. what role did they play? why do you think infections are spiking? >> i have not seen data or science pointing to that, but i have seen data pointing to when the governor reopened the state, people from across the country came to our state.

we have seen that tract with cell phone data because we were open for business but we were not -- as if we were not in the middle of a pandemic. the governor has done and said many things of late that quite simply our bizarre. and 24 page00 lawsuit against me this week, calling for an emergency injunction to stop me from speaking about his orders. if the governor of this state had his way, i would not allowed to speak with you today. -- it'se blame game most unusual. there were other cities in our states ended -- instituting mask mandates and he didn't push back against them. i don't know if it's perhaps because they were led by men or if it's perhaps because of the demographic in the city of atlanta. i don't know what the answers are. sciences know that the

on our side. here's marie in mississippi, greenville, support line. caller: good morning, good morning, i support the wearing masks and the restrictions in place, especially the places that you may have to go like a grocery store, with large numbers of people, but i also want to ask this question, those that are so bent on opposing wearing the masks, there are even some people out there protesting not to wear the masks, are these the same people that then stand in front of abortion clinics protesting for pro-life? that they feel like the baby should live but i guess everybody else around you now that's living doesn't matter? host: supporting of the restrictions specifically, why do you support them? caller: one gentleman brought up the thing about going into the store where the people were not just checking off if you had a mask, they are telling you you

have to have a mask to come into certain places. i agree with that. especially if that place is going to have a lot of different number of people coming inside the place, like a walmart. we all go to the grocery store. you have to have a mask if you come inside. those same people would be the same ones making viral videos from their hospital rooms saying they wished they had taken it more serious and how they didn't think it was serious and they wish they had and they now encourage everybody to take it serious, but they were the ones opposing. thank you. host: host: host: this from we have thisost: from facebook -- oops, i clicked the wrong thing. but this --

host: pennsylvania. william, on the oppose line. caller: yes. i like to oppose it. all the people out protesting don't seem to mind. so, i don't think we should be wearing it. plus, if they are going to start -- it's against the constitution to wear a mask. host: when you say it's against the constitution? how so question mark caller: you guys making -- how so? because we have the

rights to free everything in the constitution. host: ok. jan, new jersey. masks arethink that awesome. i see about 15 patients a day. i am maybe 12 inches from their mouth and i have not gotten a virus. i'm antibody negative and in i'm superman, these masks have been unbelievable. host: ok. john, wisconsin, on the oppose line, their, arcadia, hello. high, yeah, i just want to say that i lived in japan for a long time. and in china, they have been wearing masks for 15 years there. they get a lot of pollen and they had the sars virus.

there, butears masks they still got the virus. i don't thick it helps as much as people think. reasons that the only you oppose them or are there other factors? caller: i just don't think it, i think people have been wearing them and it doesn't help. why would you wear it question mark it doesn't make any sense. it's something else. staying away from people is better. ok, john and wisconsin giving us his thoughts this morning. chris wallace, fox news sunday yesterday, covering a lot of subjects. one of them was dr. fauci, which you heard of you are bring up not long ago, and his role in the administration when it comes ongiving out information coronavirus. here's some of that exchange specifically dealing with dr. fauci. [video clip] >> of one man from my administration doesn't like him because he made a few mistakes, but dr. fauci said don't wear.

dr. fauci said band china. big mistake. he then said that you save tens of thousands of lives more than that. he said you save tens of thousands of lives. dr. fauci has made mistakes. but i spoke to him yesterday at length. i have a good relationship with dr. fauci. >> but sir, this weekend your white house put out a series of statements of mistakes that dr. fauci had made. one of your closest aides, one of your right-hand man put out this, have you seen this? a leaker, dr. fossett, calling him a leaker and an alarmist. >> that's ok. he's a little bit of an alarmist. let me just say, dr. fauci at the beginning, and again i have a great relationship with him, i spoke to him at length yesterday, in the beginning he said this will pass, don't worry about it.

he said don't band china, don't bend china. i did and he admitted i was right. highlights from the interview in "usa today," saying "i will be right eventually, it's going to disappear." if you want to read more about that story, we have the details, some of them here. karen is next in winter haven, florida. support, hello. to plead with everybody. i'm in winter haven, florida. we were the first hospital to have to request a mobile health unit to come in. we have exceeded our icu capacity. it's so important to wear the masks and everything. people are doing it in this area. finally the city passed an ordinance but it doesn't take

place until tuesday and even saturday my post man walked to my door with no mask. it's just bad. everybody's got to hunker, get the masks on, and stop overrunning our hospitals. say that youan't are just going to go for herd immunity when you're hospitals are going to be overrun. the doctors and nurses are at their wits end. come on, people. get those masks on. host: governor desantis has been on the news a lot about what's happening in florida. what would you like him to do? geter: i would like him to serious about this and follow the science. winterhaven is only about 30,000 people. exceed the icu units at the hospitals, it's the most incredible thing i have ever faced. those of us who are high risk,

where are we going to go if we get this thing? host: go if we get this thing? we will hear from new york on a opposed line? caller: i will not say this is a hoax, this is a fraud. surgeoni and the general both gave great argument for why we did not need a mask. if you need a mask, you should wear one. it is amazing how many nobel prize winners, how many senior distinguished scientists are banned from the mainstream news media to give their opinion about this. we have suicide rates spiking, drug overdoses spiking, the worst unemployment in the history of the united states, we are in an economic depression. 50% of the people who die from this are in nursing homes. this is a disease for the elderly and for people who are already sick, and the united states has the sickest population in the

developed world. no wonder we are having such a crisis. --s thing is fraud based on icu units get flooded all the time. er units get flooded off the -- all the time. with the flu, this happens all the time. host: jay from reno, nevada on line.pport caller: thanks for taking my call. this is totally ridiculous. the reason we are having this discussion is because donald trump is not being supportive of using this. he is saying, don't do it. if everyone of these non-supporters on a mask or to go to a doctor, they see the or dr. wendy have an operation wear a mask. of aese non-supporters mask or to stand in line or go to a restaurant and somebody is touching their food with her hand not covered in plastic,

they would complain about, how are you contaminating my food? were to bring soup with something in it, they would say, you are contaminating my food. you have the press secretary saying, we're not going to let science stop us from opening schools. host: why do you support it, mask-wearing? caller: because it helps. you have videos of doctors putting on six or seven different masks over each other and their oxygen level does not go down. for people to say, "i can't breathe," you are causing this issue and this virus to spread more because you are ignorant. want to kill and i people because i don't want to wear a mask for 15, 20 minutes when i go to a store. host: ok. judy in maryland on the support line, hi. caller: hi.

i just want to report some scientific information. there has been a study published this was done in an emergency room at the -- the langone patients coming into the emergency room who were asymptomatic were shedding more virus than people who were in fact symptomatic. that suggests that the people who think, "i am fine and i am not going to contaminate anybody walkingre the sources of the virus. that is something that should be reported more. host: ok. apologize, judy, only because of the shortened timeframe of the show today, we have to stop there. thank you to all who

participated this morning. congress is coming back. one of the things of further discussion is another package.us relief to discuss that is lisa mascaro of the associated press. later we will hear from american enterprise institute's daniel cox on his latest report looking at parenting during the coronavirus pandemic. those conversations coming up on "washington journal." ♪ watch our live daily unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house can -- >> our countries are linked by trade and travel. >> on issues that matter to you. >> our ongoing efforts to focus on the mission to save lives and meet the needs of our states come our health care workers -- >> along with briefings on the coronavirus pandemic, supreme court arguments and decisions, and the latest from campaign 2020. >> your calls and comments are welcome. >> be a part of the conversation

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service, and brought to you today by your television provider. ♪ journal continues. host: joining us is lisa mascaro with the associated press, chief congressional correspondent, here to talk to us about the activities that will take place in the congressional work-week. thank you for joining us again. me.t: thanks for having host: on top of that list, discussions about another relief package. put that into context. fascinating,really the congress passed this sweeping $2 trillion covid relief package in march, and for a lot of lawmakers, articulate the republicans in the senate, they were sort of hoping this unprecedented federal outlay would be enough. and as we have seen in the months since, not only did the and thetbreak ease

economy kind of get back to things.g, but have worsened so, congress returning to work this week to landscape, difficult almost dyer, where you see these covid infections across the state rising, and the states scrambling to respond. congress is left with no other choice but to consider yet another massive relief. to put it into perspective, when they passed the $2 trillion wasage in march, that bigger than the bank bailout and the recovery act of the last great recession combined. so we are talking about this unprecedented federal approach. and yet we still cannot quite get a handle on the virus outbreak. it is daunting. so this morning, the republican

leadership, senate leader mitch house minorityhe leader, kevin mccarthy, are headed to the white house to speak with president trump and treasury secretary steven mnuchin, who has been sort of the chief negotiator on these packages. they are going to sort of see where they are at. senate leader mcconnell has been preparing to roll out in a matter of days, perhaps tonight or in the morning, his response, which would be about a $1 trillion package. schools toey for reopen, is a continuation of some jobless benefits for unemployed americans. fors some money potentially hospitals and states to shore up their economies, and also some paid for businesses who are

struggling to keep their doors open or reopen, and then these new protocols, things that they have to do to have social distancing and keep customers and workers safe. a trillion dollar package is another enormous outlay, however, it falls far short of the $3 trillion package that house speaker nancy pelosi already passed in the house. may.emocrats' proposal in so republicans are now trying to respond to what essentially is this package from speaker pelosi that has been sitting out there for two months. and negotiations are set to begin. congress is here only for a scheduled two-week period, and they will try to get all of this done, but it is probably going to take longer. there is already talk that congress could be here into the early march blowing past their

own deadline. that is the landscape congress return.g as they host: if you want to talk about the new round of spending being considered, and the factors at play with our guest, call and let us know on 202-748-8000 for democrats, 202-748-8001 for 202-748-8002and four independent -- for independents. some of the things republicans are looking for, one of those deals with the issue of liability. can you expand on that? guest: it is a centerpiece of you to mcconnell's proposal. --talked about the potential of lawsuits that could come in the wake of the

crisis. when you look at schools reopening or hospitals treating patients, doctors offices trying patients or regular non-covid patients, businesses reopening, republicans worry lawsuits be a trial los bonanza of injury claims. leader mcconnell has talked about this for a number of weeks now, that it is his number one priority. last thursday, they started floating the contours of what this liability shield will look like. it is a five-year liability shield dating back to december of 2019, which, by many accounts, is when the outbreak first started becoming apparent. it would extend for five years, into 2014 and it would be a sweeping shield to prevent lawsuits if they are covid

related. the wording on that is a little tricky and a little hard to drill down on what exactly that would look like. a lot of it will be up to the lawyers to decide. the aim of this shield is to stem or at least discourage potential lawsuits. is keyublicans say this to reopening. people are not going to want to reopen if they feel like it will be hit with lawsuits. on the flipside, you will need democrats. congress,split democrats control the house and republicans control the senate, and, president trump is a republican. you still need democrats to pass anything, and democrats have really taken it in the other direction. they want to expand on worker protections and ensure that workers and customers are safe

as they go back to work, as schools reopen, as people working in doctor's offices and the personale protective equipment, the deer, the protocols a need. osha,rats complain that bus they complain that they have been sort of absent from this discussion. so democrats are proposing beefing up the guidelines on reopening. this is a pressure point in the new aid package. for him, it isl, a line in the sand. so i imagine there will be some sort of liability in any final product that comes out of congress. towill see how close it is this sweeping five-year proposal that leader mcconnell has put on the table. host: when it comes to the overall opinions of this next packaging, speaker

pelosi was talking about where democrats and republicans were at her press conference. i will play a little bit for you and then we will get you to expand on that. [video clip] rep. pelosi: everything in this package, say, 95% is what we have had in previous bills. so, nobody is being asked to vote for something they have not voted for before. one thing that is different is they have resisted in the past standards.osha that is absolutely essential for us to have, to protect our even stronger at the time of the coronavirus. they know what they have to do. there is another piece that they have resisted that is very inent now, they resisted it the c.a.r.e.s. act but it is very urgent now, and that is assistance for renters.

the moratorium is going to end, or has ended in some places, and we really need to get that assistance. host: lisa mascaro, the chances of that rental assistance being in the final package are what, as you would see it? guest: i would just say the renters'cliff that is coming is dramatic. there are a number of provisions that are expiring here at the end of the month, july 31, that were approved as part of the earlier bill in march but would provide some temporary relief. they put deadlines on it and that aid is ending at the end of july, and my other ap colleagues have drilled down on this, and there are thousands and thousands of apartment units, millions across the united states. it is much anyone in any sort of federally-backed programs,

section eight vouchers, or anyone who's apartment building is on a federally-backed mortgage. a lot of people have their feds.ges backed by the it is a sweeping number of rental units that has been under a federal moratorium for evictions. now, states and counties, different jurisdictions have layered in their own eviction moratorium, so in some cities, residents will be protected still. however, in many places, they will not. how they advocate -- housing advocates warn of a phenomenal wave of evictions, as people have lost their jobs. you know, we have seen unemployment skyrocketed. 14% at thehit nearly peak of the crisis, now it is back down to 11% as of last week's jobless numbers. that is an improvement, for

sure, as businesses begin to reopen. however, we are seeing businesses shut down again. some states imposing shutdown cities, also, businesses starting to close doors or not reopening their offices on their own because of their own concerns or their own inability to re-outfit their business buildings. that trickles down to people being out of work. that 11% out of work is still higher than what it was during the great recession just a decade ago, so we are really in difficult territory here, and we know that this is hitting communities, not just black and brown communities, who are certainly being hit by the covid crisis and the health crisis and but alsomic crisis, across other communities dealing with the economic fallout. notquestion of whether or

this will be in the package does seem to be a huge priority for democrats. again, it will all be part of the negotiation between democrats, republicans, and the white house. host: let's hear from some viewers. in sebastian, florida, on the independent line. we will start with bill. caller: good morning. good morning, ms. mascaro. it seems to me that the unemployed and the people that got laid off should merit a lot of consideration, considering the banks that are such a big bigion of the -- got such a person of the money last time as well.8 they were taken care of. the people who still have not gotten unemployment checks in florida should merit an awful lot of consideration from these representatives, especially republicans, who did not cut the

unemployment time in half a few years back with the law they passed, limiting the time you can get unemployment insurance. thank you very much. guest: yes. there are two interesting issues , it the caller, bill raises. one, unemployment insurance bonus that congress approved, all the states have unemployment insurance levels. congress, back in march approved weekly bonus to ensure that people who were getting laid off or not having to scrape by on what may be in some states just really lower unemployment checks. most likely be reduced in this next go-around. republicans are opposed to it. disincentives a for workers to get back to work.

there is a bit of data out there the shows that people with $600 bonus are making more than they made in their low-wage jobs. the $600 bonus has been a lifeline. we know that people in states that are still working on the federal minimum wage at seven dollars and $.50 an hour are really -- $7.50 an hour are scraping by on an unemployment check that would be less than that. that will be a huge point of contention. unemployment aid is also running out on july 31. that boost. and republicans have began making some signals that they are willing to extend it, maybe a few hundred dollars a month extra. boost, but nowhere near the

$600 weekly boost. i would say also the republicans are talking about another round democrats.id, as our back in spring, republicans received a 12 -- most people received a $1200 rebate check from the government. there is a talk of another one-time stipend like that to help april get through the crisis. one more point the caller raised , the mood in the country seems very different than it was during the recession. during the recession 10 years ago, people who remember that, he is right, the banks got a lot of money, they got that $800 billion dollar tarp bailout. congress got a lot of backlash for that. it was seen as helping wall street.ver main

people would argue that wall street needed to be propped up or else it would cause more devastation on main street, so that is a continued debate. the mood of the country seems it changed, that people are really concerned about a lot of these more populist issues that the caller bail raised. i will conclude by saying, we see that across the presidential election, where the campaigns are really leaning into a lot of these more populist to help americans that are really struggling in an economy that is transforming before our eyes. host: from arkansas, jb, hello. lisa, you talked about nancy pelosi wanted to put $3 trillion into the economy. that is totally insane. that is going to help one person, that is donald trump. if they want to get biden elected, i would put the smallest amount right now and

then wait until after the election if they need to again, to put more in that. but $3 trillion pumped into this economy will make him look like a genius. it will inflate everything. on the subject of sending out checks like they did before, if they want to really , theyat money spent should put out that the cards and have a time limit, like six months, where you have to spend it in six months. when i got mine, i stuck it in the bank. i imagine a lot of people did too. guest: that is definitely a point on the rebates. over and again that when you put money in the hands of people who need money, they it. spend it is a huge stimulus effect.

we saw this during the recession a decade ago. in some situations, we see it now. but the caller raises a good point. a lot of people are under banked. they don't have access to great banking services. a lot of people rely on check-cashing places, all these sort of limits how much they get in their pockets and money goes to fees. so there is a lot to be said about the but cards. there had been discussion of that. the first time around, i think they ended up with checks being sent. but that is something that has been under consideration in the past. the time limit on it, i have not heard, but that also is an view,sting point of because the caller is right, people just banked the money if they don't need it. if you really truly want something to get in the hands of people who use it, and be a stimulus to help the economy so businesses can keep reopening and keep people hired, maybe a

time limit on it is an idea. that is interesting. as to his other point, on just letting things go and how that would help donald trump if they just -- if congress does intout 3 trillion dollars the economy, there are political sure somens that i am people think, should we not help the president on the democrat side, or on the republican side, should we do this or that -- it seems congress realizes the country is hurting. the outlook for fall, if you listen to the nations leading the virus crisis needs to be contained. it made to be brought under control or it is only going to continue to get worse. and with the fall flu season and the winter coming, you know, there is the potential for an

even more dire situation. deaths at this00 point, more than anywhere else in the world, and those numbers are not going to improve unless the viruses contained. host: for best unless the virus is contained. virginia, you are on the republican line, good morning. caller: good morning. one of 35 million that have not received their first round of stimulus. i keep going to the website and they keep saying they are still gathering information. and me and my husband, we are over 65. we fall into those guidelines. his job was cut back to one day a week. we are on social security. we have direct deposit. that this main people

is supposed to be helping. i am just wondering, is anything being done about it? if i was the only one, it would be one thing, led as of yesterday, there is only 5 million of us but haven't gotten our checks. host: thanks. guest: that is stunning. i don't know that number, but if that number is right, that is a stunning number and probably something we should definitely look into. i know there is a concern on capitol hill that different aspects of the previously have been approved aid have not -- previously approved eight have not been out. differente, -- aspects of the previously approved aid have not gone off. that only half of the money has gone out the door.

democrats in the senate have been raising concern about that and trying to investigate why that money is not out the door. i don't know the answer to the question of the caller raises the stimulus checks, but that is certainly an interesting issue and something we should look into a muscle thanks for pointing that out. host: this is from a month ago from a local affiliate. the headline is "still no stimulus check, you are not alone." the sidebar says 35 million, figure. since we are running a little short on time, i wanted to ask a quick question about john lewis. [. barking] >> though you have been a chance anyhat -- do you have thoughts on the memorialization week?

guest: john lewis was seen for many years as the conscience of the congress, the congressional black caucus has been the conscience of the congress and he is the conscience of the conscience of the congress. he is one that congressional leaders of both parties i know will want to memorialize. i imagine there will be some sort of service, memorial service at the capitol. every member senator john mccain laid in state at the capitol. it is appropriate for members of that.ss to be able to do the capitol remains partly shut down and it is closed to tourists and most visitors. the house and senate have been coming in back and forth for sessions, but i can't imagine they would fully open up the

capitol to visitors, but i imagine there has to be some sort of service for him. p is so well respected and beloved. really on both sides of the aisle. mascaro froms lisa the associated press, she is the chief congressional correspondent, talking about the second stimulus package and other matters. thank you for your time with us. guest: thank you. host: coming up, we will hear from daniel cox with the american enterprise institute they just. put out a report talking about parenting during the coronavirus pandemic and some of the issues that go along with that. you can ask about that when "washington journal continue." ♪ >> watch our live daily unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house -- >> our countries are linked by

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fellow with the american enterprise institute. he joins us now to discuss his latest report regarding parenting during the coronavirus pandemic. welcome to "washington journal." me.t: thanks for having host: what were you looking for, and what were you hoping to find when it comes to the topic of parenting? guest: it is pretty basic. we have seen a lot of polling about what parents think of government policies and they are checking in to see what parents are feeling, what they are feeling about their daily life. the responses were pretty grim. host: a lot of this is, as i understand it, is because school and daycares were closing and parents were picking up extra responsibilities. how does that factor into the overall results you found? guest: a colleague of mine actually did a report about when

a lot of the public schools had closed. the majority closed about mid-march. if you do the math, for parents who get rely on a daycare, schools or summer camps right now, they were entering month five of people working, full-time jobs and taking care of their kids full-time. host: when you take a look at whatssues them a define parents are in this report how do you define that. reinterviewed -- this report was based on parents who had a child in the house under the age of 18. host: so single parents, two-couple families, how does that work? guest: across the board, different types of families and family arrangements. we saw some pretty significant differences in how folks are experiencing parenting during the pandemic. surprisingly, to parent

households in terms of the depression, feeling lonely and isolated and not having enough time for yourself. majority of single-parent households expressed feeling like that at least once a week. host: if you want to ask questions about the topic, if you are parents of children under the age of 18, you can call and ask a question at 202-748-8000. all others, 202-748-8001. you can text us on this, too. one of the things you start off level ofbout is the comfort about returning to school. we can show you the graph. talk about what is behind the numbers and what thei the parents are telling you about their comfort level on sending things back. guest: this was conducted in june before we saw a second and with schools are

turning more distant. now it is 5-6 weeks away, much more of an imminent things, so things may have shifted a little bit. so most of the views just parents are really uncomfortable with sending their kids back to school. board,this across the expressed in some people more than others. mothers were a little more concerned than others about sending kids back-to-school. parents of color were more concerned than white parents. there were some racial disparities as well. it is not just across school, if you look across a variety of measures, whether that is going to movies or the restaurant or having people over to your house, parents are less comfortable engaging in all different types of social activities than nonparents. host: 66% of the mothers expressing when it comes to sending their kids to school or 42%care very uncomfortable

of fathers saying they were very uncomfortable. this idea about discomfort extent to going to a shopping mall or a park. how far does it go? guest: we asked around 10 or 12 different items, including playgrounds -- going t with your child to the playground. a lot of parents in my neighborhood and i think around the country are taking a look at the playground, but again, we're seeing a lot of discomfort. the uncomfortable does not necessarily mean you will not do it, but maybe how you approach it will be different. when it comes to schools, that is a whole different ballgame because it is inside, because the latest research suggests that kids as young as 10 years old can actually transmit as well as adults.

so there is a lot of uncertainty around the information, and a lot of trepidation and anxiety among parents. how does this factor into their ability to send a child to daycare more than they normally are, so to speak? guest: we are hearing reports of affluent parents trying to start their own micro schools or pandemic pods where they work with a couple of different families, hire a teacher and create their own school environment where kids are getting professional instruction. that is very expensive and not available to majority of students, certainly not low-income students. how people , managing this parents- wealthier

have more resources like being able to hire nannies and offload some of those responsibilities others. in terms of how they spend their time, parents are spending a lot of time adjusting. -- the majority of parents say they are spending at least a couple of hours a day every day on just keeping the house clean and running. host: we will show people the chart of what the parents respond. why focus on housework per se? if you have your kids, around 24/7, there is a lot more to clean up a lot more dirt being tracked in, and just keeping the household chores is more difficult when you have everyone in the house. host: 26% of those parents are responding saying they are spending more than four hours each day doing housecleaning and other activities. that goes to 60% of -- 16

percent of parents saying it is about four hours. 40% say they are doing 3-4 hours of housecleaning a day. if you want to ask questions to our guest, 202-748-8000 for those with children under the age of 18. than all others, 202-748-8001. you can factor this in, there is a story in the "wall street journal" about what the congressional role should be in offering assistance. they highlight that it was back march, approving the families first coronavirus response act which provides 12 weeks of paid leave for parents of home-bound children through the end of 2020. specificalk about the or the larger aspects are providing that resource. is that a good thing or a bad mix? or ia

guest: as a parent, it is kind of a no-brainer. we know that child care centers and schools will need additional funds. they have to bring on and and all thee. different things we will be required to do. two-year-oldve a and a four-year-old in daycare now. the daycare just reopened, and they are having to do a whole mess of additional -- which is expensive. carenk a lot of day centers and schools will need additional financial support. there is a recent report out by another think tank in washington, d.c. what they found was that at least half of all day care slots in the u.s. could be gone as a result of the pandemic. host: this is daniel cox of the american enterprise institute. he serves as a research fellow for the organization. we will start this morning with mark, a parent of kids in new york. you are on with our guest. hello. , how are bothx

of you gentlemen? i am trying to figure something out and no one has yet been able to answer this simple question for me. what is more valuable, or what aid toost more, federal keep parents who cannot work home so they can take care of their kids, or the life of the child? which one -- i know we see human capital coming out of the white house as a term. what is the human capital value of a child in america today, according to the american enterprise institute and/or yourself? is more mean, this unethical question for a lot of folks.

the caller raises a really good point. when you think about the folks that are hurt because of the pandemic, there has been a lot of anecdotal evidence and research that suggests that mothers are bearing the disproportionately negative impacts to their careers. a recent study found that among parents who could not work because they are taking care of their kids, 80% were women. think about the financial toll, the economic cost, it is certainly affecting a lot of people are all walks of life. we can't ignore the fact that women are bearing the brunt in terms of the pandemic affecting their careers. host: susan from florida on the line for others, you are next. caller: i am a grandmother of 77 years old. i understand all the things that you are pointing out, but i would like to point out a

different type of education that is being transmitted. these children, our children are frightened. areadults in the room scaring the daylights out of them. ,etween the politics, the covid they are frightened. and they do not understand. dofact, a lot of the adults not understand. it is really a sad thing, because children learn what you live. you can talk from -- to doomsday, they will take their cue from what they see people doing and their behavior. the second point i would like to make is, i like hollywood and the entertainment industry and everything, but can they possibly produce anymore garbage ? everything on television is violence, statism, and sects. can't you be funny -- violence,

statism, and sex. they are really overwhelming, and children are victims of this. host: susan, thank you very much. mr. cox, if i could jump on the last part of susan, the role of technology when it comes to the current situation. you can bring in matters of content, as the caller was .alking about guest: i think it's terms of video technology, it has been a boon and a small relief to a lot of parents. of theto a quarter parents say they use videoconferencing to connect to family and friends, many of whom they don't feel comfortable getting in touch with in person. that is something that has been great. there has been a lot of discussion about how virtual education has a lot of implementation, but in terms of at least providing some available outlet and student, it isor

something that we would not have had an opportunity to do a decade or two ago. because of who called, is there a generational role in this? she identified herself as a grandmother, i suppose that could be of assistance to the parents as well. are there any studies that talked about the role of grandparents and having other relatives involved in the process.g guest: they have played a critical role for a lot of parents who are struggling, particularly parents who are working. there is a recent study by the kaiser family foundation. we talk about schools reopening and the potential threat -- 3.3 million kids are being raised or live in households with either older caregivers or grandparents. when we talk about people who are vulnerable, we need to think not just of children and

teachers,, who are important, but also caregivers, some of whom would be at high risk. host: on the flipside of that, you talk about parents working from home, what is a flexibility level of employers these days? if a parent has to take care of their child because they are not in school, how are employers factoring in? guest: i think that we did not in our server, but the anecdotal evidence and what we have seen is that employers are being as flexible as they can, so they can do extended work from home, work off-hours, trying to make it work for their employees. but this can only go on for so , if your parenting and taking care of your kids all day, trying to teach them and do learning activities and then trying to do your work after they go to bed, between the hours of 8:00 and 2:00 in the morning there is only so many days you can continue to do that and

still function as a human being. for a lot of folks, we need to see that light at the end of the town oh, and unfortunately, we don't. anxiety, a lot of it is engendered by uncertainty among kids and parents about what is going on, what should be done. that comes from the top down. there has not been a consistent response to this. host: to the level of anxiety and the issues because of that, one of the charts are you show has mother's showing mostly about feeling isolated and lonely. can you expand on that? guest: one of them has to do that mothers are disproportionately likely to be single, in single-parent households, are really important factor in terms of being lonely. we know from other studies that mothers take on additional both emotional and physical labor around the house unless so they

are engaged in more of the everyday activities. really a things are large part of the disparity between mothers and fathers in terms of both being lonely and feeling depressed. host: you mentioned the idea of not having time for themselves you highlight that. two specific categories found depressed and others physically crying because of these emotional issues. guest: right. so we found a significant number of mothers -- we asked the question, how much in the week? that is a relatively short time, and a significant number of mothers said they cried because of feeling overwhelmed or frustrated. things -- one of the we didn't have a question about feeling angry or other kinds of emotions that are more associated -- that men might

feel conveying or sharing in the survey, so you may see that women are more comfortable in sharing emotions, and that men in afathers are a great deal of emotional distress as well, they express it differently. host: george in ohio, good morning. caller: good morning. yes, i was just calling -- i am a grandparent. and we have a grandchild that we have in our home that we raise with the mother. i was talking basically about parenting in schools. what i am trying to get at is people are worried about sending their children back to school because of the social environment they come in contact with at school that they don't come in contact with at home. if they are in school under

conditions, they are not going to have the social compatible with their friends like they would under normal conditions. as far as social distancing and wearing a mask and all that, those are all good things, but if you send your child back to school under those conditions, they are not going to be able to socialize like they normally would. people have to look at it, when they send their children back to school under these circumstances, they will not get the social occurrence with their friends like they normally would, so those are things you just have to delete out the window at this moment. so when people are trying to home,their children at their social system at home with their family, it is just as good as with their friends. they are still able to communicate with their friends over the phone, over the internet the meso they are still being able to socialize with or theriends, --

internet. they are still able to socialize with their friends or the internet. sending their children back to school for the simple reason of getting the social accommodations with their friends is not going to be what they think it is, because they are not going to get that. it is just a matter of, you have to be able to protect your child at all costs, and when you have something like this -- people say, well, it doesn't affect children -- it does. in certain circumstances. be one oflike to those one who sends their child to school and they get the virus and it does affect them, how are you going to feel? you are going to feel worse because you are not protecting your child. who think they want to

send their child to school for the simple reason of they are not getting the social accommodation from their peers -- look, this will pass. kids will be able to go back to school. i am optimistic. optimistic that this is face.ing we will have to our country has faced these things before and we will face it now and we are going to come out of this. host: i don't mean to interrupt, only that we are running out of time. the child you are raising at home, is that because of covid-related issues? caller: yes. host: how old is the child? 12.er: host: in these techniques of socialization, is that what you are applying to your own grandchild? caller: yes. working? is that caller: it is working good. my grandchild socializes with all of her friends over the phone, over the internet. and she is in contact with them. that, when you send

your child to school, it is with the purpose of not learning, but the system of being with their friends, that is what they are missing. host: that is george. mr. cox, i kept him on a little longer. go ahead if you would like to add to that. guest: what struck me as the caller was talking is how difficult the logistics are of creating an entire new school environment that can minimize the transmission. in our own daycare, they sent us a five-page list of new processes and protocols that they are engaged in an all these schools will have to figure out what to do. different activities and needs, medication, so it is really a herculean task for a lot of these teachers and

administrators, particularly if they are not receiving additional funding to do so. it is a real challenge. i think every single-parent will try to do what is in the best interest of their own child. so if they are not comfortable sending their child to school, if they have a way not to do that, they will not do that if they're not comfortable. host: from michigan on the line for others, ron, good morning. caller: good morning. i am a retired teacher after teaching for 32 years. all theot address levels, because we are dealing with a very complicated situation, but one of the things we did when i was teaching school was, when we wanted to structure,academic we contacted different schools in a number of different states and used the information they gave us for subject matter, reviewed the subject matter and adopted what we thought was applicable to our situation.

my question is to why our country doesn't or maybe they have, only i am not aware of it -- contacted countries throughout the world to find out how they are adapting their educational system to the covid crisis. i think possibly that could be a beginning for us to pick from communities. our i think of that was being emphasized a little more, i think possibly we could even do it within our own country, then we wouldn't have to spend so much time scratching our heads as to what we should and should not do. i will wait to hear from your comment, thank you. host: thank you. guest: that is absolutely right, there is a lot to learn from countries that have done this right and countries that have wrong.ings even within the u.s., there are states that have done things better than others, so there is

a lot of learning that could be done and help guide us for the future. one of the real challenges of new disease,s is a and there is a lot of uncertainty about transmission, what are the best ways to prevent it. now there is a consensus in terms of mask-wearing. we know that mask-wearing is important. unfortunately, we have been slow to adapt to it than other countries and i think we are seeing the results. this was daniel cox with the american enterprise institute, the report is online, by the way, on their website. of all the things we have talked about, is there something else interesting that you found in the report? guest: i think that when you think about how parents are been sogain, there has

much focus on the policy environment and what people think about schools, but in terms of their emotional well-being, a lot of parents are really struggling. children, too. a lot more research should look at that. we also did not look at it particularly in our report, but we will moving forward, what is marriages?f this pandemic has put a lot of thess, financial stress, stress of raising children, dealing with extended family and .ther caregivers, all creates stress and the environment we are really interested in seeing how american marriages are faring. i am worried that the news may not be good. host: to find the report online, go to the website, that is see theird you can research. mr. cox, thanks for your time.

guest: thank you. host: the house will consider several things this week, if possible other stimulus package. there is also matters of defense on the slate, the environment come out what to do with confederate statues and images, as the house continues its work. now we go to the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's rooms, washington, d.c. july 20, 2020. i hereby appoint the honorable henry cuellar to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, nancy pelosi, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january , 2020, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with time equally allocated