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facebook. a breakdown of what occurred yesterday saying a bipartisan vote gave the buildings architect $2 million in four months to complete the job of removing the statues in question braden it past the house by a 305-113 vote. inmainly targets 12 statues century hall the memorialized confederate leaders. while the removal -- while the chief justices bust does not remove the historical wrong the protect the institution of slavery, it expresses congress's recognition for the most notorious wrongs taken place in the chief chuck -- and the chief justices bust, dred scott versus sanford according to the bill.

the bill appropriates $5 million for the job and if the remaining 3 million to the smithsonian's and a central voice in decisions -- legislation to ask the architect to remove james paul clark, john caldwell calhoun, whose last attribute words were the south, the poor south. be sent backill individual state governments that provided them and direct management of their storage to the capital architect. we will first hear from bennie thompson to talk about the legislation. >> it is fitting and proper that those individuals who fought to keep men -- many of our ancestors enslaved should not placeo be recognized in a where people who do good expect

to be recognized. this is not a way of erasing history, it's a way of correcting history so that those people who see it will see it in a manner in which it 6 -- it is. at the end of this debate, i hope we all will be on the same page. this notion that in america, it color, it is not sex,race, it is not your but we have to stand for something. our values should mean something is americans and so, this bill establishes what america stands for and we should not recognize in order just to say we are together. traitors have a place, but not in a place of honor. host: you can see more of that

at c-span.org. david in atlanta, georgia, in support of the effort. you are first. caller: i do support the effort, the reason being is most of the statues exactly as the representative said were secessionists. and their fight for what they called the lost cause, they want the statues to stay in our capital and in our public places to show that they had some kind cause that they fought for their side of the war. which is i guess from their point of view could be, but from a holistic point of view, they are totally wrong. i guess their leaders or the people who lead public, theyour shouldn't be in the same houses

where some of our leaders that supported the republic had died. on the confederate side there were a lot of people who died and it was the unions -- unionists on our side who not only helped out the south after the war, but held very their soldiers after the war because the south couldn't afford it. host: david in atlanta, georgia. eric is in rome, georgia. also in support. caller: thank you. the main thing the statues need to be realized is they are statues of traitors and those who tried to -- the country. they are traitors. hiller was not -- these people have never held office in the united states. they try to overthrow the government, they are cowards and traitors and the people who

believe black people were 3/5 of a human being. in germany you cannot fly a swastika, hitler's not allowed. he was part of their government in their history. but they are not allowed. these need to be brought down and those need to be thrown away. host: that's eric in rome, georgia. another thought from the house floor, this from tom mcclintock who also talks about the legislation been -- legislation. not what this bill does. rather it begins by removing the bust of roger tawney from the supreme court chamber. and that is true, he wrote the absolute worst decision ever rendered by the supreme court. but let's not forget he also

presided over and joined in one of its better decisions. if we remove memorials to every person in this building whoever made a bad decision, this would be a very barren place indeed. it's only the bad things in our history that we can use to measure all of the good things in our history. this bill also moves the statues of confederate sympathizers sent to the capital by the states. while that's not our decision. that is the decision that has always belonged to the individual states and several of them are already making these decisions. we should let them. other is chauncey breckinridge of kentucky who was honored not for his service to the confederacy, but rather for his service as vice president of the united states and granted come we have had some absolutely

terrible vice presidents through our history and i'm sure we will in the future. but if we are going to start down that road, we will be throwing out statues at the whim of a moment. some of them include jefferson davis of mississippi, james george provided by mississippi. lee hampton the third of south carolina. robert he leave virginia. it goes on from there. rollcall's estate represented by the statue movie required to pay for their return. if the state doesn't want to pay to bring the statue back, the architect would move the statue to the estonian institution and that would go towards executing that process. about $5 million of -- for this project. jim opposes this effort from mississippi. caller: hello. i'm against this.

people who don't like the statues and want to keep pulling the racist card. need to know their history. if you look at the reason the south seceded from the north, you take the top five reasons they did it, if the same at what at -- is what our revolution was. if it was good enough for a revolution to fight tyranny, taxation without representation and all of that, then why wasn't it for the south? people that are doing this are not educated and i think it's because the education system. or they are just really prejudice ideology. for those people who think this, whether to confederate flag or statue or this or that, if they andeve that this is wrong

it was about slavery, but that there feeling about it. , ifoes back to that saying you don't remember your history you are doomed to repeat it in the future. host: that's jim and let's hear from our support line. caller: i support this action. as an african american, i am highly offended at people that wanted to keep my ancestors enslaved get a place of honor decades for a man who wanted justice for us, the right to vote, we do fight tooth and nail for martin luther king to a place of prominence on the mall. the problem with our country is we glorified the people who wanted to own my ancestors.

in school it was something called a lost cause. and what that was was the ability for the south to own human beings which is unacceptable and our education system has created an environment where people don't and itat this is harmful is hurtful and part patch awaits a system in our country where my people can be shot in the street by police, they can do it ever they want to us and nothing happens to them. host: giving us her thoughts. this poll took place on the 21st of july provided by washington post and abc. americans% of opposing removing the statues at the time dedicated to confederate generals. the poll showed 80% of republicans and 56% of independents removed -- opposed poster moving such monuments.

nearly 60% of white people opposed the removal. three quarters of black supported removing statues of general robert e lee among other confederate generals. facebook when asked, you can post their on facebook.com/c-span. said she's opposed pretty where does it stop during a pandemic? what are they up to. jim in buffalo says leave the statues. the values of times didn't coincide with today's values. these are great men who did great work. on to talk about black lives matter and let them come and tear them down. carol supports removing the statues. also texting us this morning from panama city florida sing the honor traitors. we should never honor trash like that. put them in a museum. that's where they belong. los angeles, california, support line. i think the statue

should've been removed a long time ago. they support slavery, and institution that you and i as human beings, african american's like myself were sold like cattle. especially the statue of jefferson davis. his memorial should be turned into the civil rights museum to honor all those who fought and died in mississippi during the civil rights era. all those people who were murdered in mississippi fighting for civil rights. a memorial should be erected where his memorial stands. civil rights park should be established on his estate. host: that's don in los angeles, california.

texas, here is greg. caller: good morning. , don't change nothing of what you do on the show. in.le call as aact is in america young kid coming up -- host: go right ahead. kidsr: in america, black -- it becauseey did they didn't want us to be angry and mad at america. but you know what, when i grew up, i pledged allegiance to the flag. they said go back to africa and you're not american and it hurt so bad. they brought these neo-nazis over here and taught these

america -- these american kids to be racist. caller: as far as the -- host: as far as the house decision to remove the statues, what do you think? caller: i'm glad it's happening. and don't be -- so i'm talking about what i went , --ugh this in this country host: let's hear from cc in milford who opposes the movement. caller: good morning. i just have one question. if this is such a bad thing in the statues in your, why did you defend them when obama was in office for eight years? host: that's cc. a couple of thoughts on our facebook. michael says he opposes for no other reason then it's a huge

waste of time and resources. i did not vote for my senders and representatives to earn 176,000 dollars a year on an issue that has no bearing or impact on the future of my country. the commission's sculptures and cost more to be honors and the same number of people to walk to the new statues without a care for them like they did. douglas says he supports it and think statues and busts are meant to extol and exemplify positive virtues. these people aren't worth honoring any more than benedict arnold. poses sing where does it stop during a pandemic, what are they up to. linda from facebook says for someone decides to remove something called confederate, one should understand what it means. york on ourw support line, go ahead. caller: good morning. you're one of my favorite host on the show.

your reactions are just priceless. i would like to address the caller who called from the south who talked about comparing the confederate with the revolutionaries. there was no taxation without representation with confederates. was toain reason preserve that institution. there is a reason why we should have take the statues down and that is because you lost, we one. some just to let you know other things on capitol hill when it comes to the house and senate. one of those debates about the coronavirus police bill, the hill reports the tea party has weighed in with her thinking saying the debate over the size of that bill and the reopening of the same divisions within their publican party that spohn that tea party movement, mitch

mcconnell's upper reelection in kentucky, a state of tea party activism. senator rand paul, a tea party favorite taking an outspoken stand against another large federally package. the situation is eerily similar to 2008 when mcconnell's upper reelection for his fifth senate term. congress was under intense pressure to pass the expense of relief bill and a presidential election only weeks away. the story adds the lack of physical disk -- fiscal discipline in washington crystallizes the tea party that swept colleagues such as mike lee from utah and ted cruz into the senate in 2012. more back-and-forth of what's going on when it comes the republican side on the hill paid peggy in south carolina poses the actions by the house. caller: i do.

this is part of our history. we can't change history unfortunately. we need to be moving forward. i think the way people are destroying these monuments and tearing them down themselves is a disgrace. if they are going to remove them, they should be removed properly and put in a museum. i opposese it and i the way people are taking this into their own hands and talking about i'm sorry about what happened to the slaves, but that's history and part of our history, we can't change it, we need to be moving forward and educating our children and moving forward and being as one. we are one person, we are all god's children and there is so much going on now especially with this pandemic and we need to get our priorities and again i'm sorry what happened, but i

do think taking this into their hands is wrong and destroying the property. host: frank in tulsa, oklahoma. though ahead. caller: the only reason i called opposed is because you have a neutral. because i don't care if they take the statues down or not. i just wanted to mention that the supreme court justice was of one that voted in favor dred scott and he was a democrat. host: but as far as the statues themselves, why are you neutral? caller: because i really don't care. morenk christ is much important than any statue or any the one atis really the center of host: host: the whole issue. host: ok.

just to show you the headlines from the president's announcement yesterday telling morse of the federal assistance is going to be sent to cities to help with disruptions there, protest and the like, that the headline from the washington post. also when it comes to legislative actions. that was awash washington times. the washington post reports this federal legislation working on capitol hill in response to that. member ofnsored by a the house armed services committee and a marine corps veteran who served thinking that the -- saint apartment home at security and other agencies should not allow officers to wear camouflage, they need to stop the charade and but there ice uniforms back on. referring to immigration officers and customers -- customs and border protection. that some of the reaction on capitol hill.

rachel in fort lauderdale, florida, support line. go ahead. caller: yes good morning. i'm from florida, but i grew up in atlanta. i'm a white conservative woman and i would like to say that i am in support of removing the statues. i think this should be taken down and put in a museum. my main concern growing up in atlanta, have to bring up stone mountain. the mountain that has the carving on the side, i hope that that doesn't get blasted. put, weomehow we can can add to it, we can add martin luther king up there, we can add abraham lincoln, something to preserve that mountain. but as far as the statues yes. host: you said you support taking dow also

taken to a museum. i think taking them down and putting them possibly in washington dc in a museum of some sort would be a good idea to maintain our history and yet they are not on the court square. they are not offending people and i do understand that it would offend african-americans and i think it would definitely help our country to do that. host: if states in one take these back, they would be sent to the smithsonian. is that a good decision? >> i would say put them anywhere other than where they are. my main concern is still mountain. host: rachel in fort lauderdale, florida who support this action. we have about seven or so

minutes until our next guest, the house expected to come in at 9:00. you can make your comments about the decision by the house yesterday for the next couple of minutes at least. supported00 if you the action. if you opposed, 202-748-8001. theted topics it was president talking about issues when it comes to the confederate flag come he made those exchanges on an interview that took place this past week, here is his thinking on the confederate flag. >> this week you said black lives matter and the confederate flag are both issues of freedom of speech. but in the case of the confederate flag, there are a lot of people who say these were traders who split from this country, fought this country in large part to preserve slavery. it is the confederate flag offensive? >> it's depends on who you are talking about them when you were talking about. people are proud, they are

talking about racism, the love the flag, it represents the south. they like the south. i say it's freedom of many things, but it's >> freedom of speech. so you're not offended by it? >> i'm not offended either by black lives matter prayed that's freedom of speech. the holding of cancel culture we can't cancel her whole history. we can't forget that the north and south fought. we have to remember that otherwise we will end up fighting again. host: this is from scott in mississippi. caller: i'm calling in opposition to the removal of the statues for a couple of reasons. is people needn to understand the statues represent the union itself. the statues were put up to welcome back the confederate soldiers in the confederacy and

the state said wanted to separate themselves from the union. this was made to welcome them back into the america to say in many of theid statues were paid for and directed by the daughters of the confederacy. people need to understand this. , supporting the effort. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to say i support the removal of the statues as long as the people have confederate uniforms on them because some of the people are known for other things and those, if they are known for really important issue they helped in their lives, than i think they should be remembered. but if they have a confederate

uniform on, than that statue should be removed. >> gloria from new york, usa today on this action. it quotes a democrat from california. the share of the congressional black caucus and said removing the statues would be part of honoring john lewis his legacy in addition to the passage of the voting rights bill of what he fought for every day is the opposite of these symbols. she said personally as a black lawmaker, the presence of the statues represents and except -- white supremacy and racism. kathleen up next from florida on a repose line. -- on our opposed line. caller: i think you can destroy them, but you cannot change history. i think the to approach that is teach in the context in which it happened and to understand it

was a part of our growing history. now some years later we look back and this was right or wrong , but removing the statues doesn't do anything at all to change history. history from the perspective that that never understandd i don't -- people, they believe because of a piece of history that really has nothing at all to do with them. i don't understand that at all. kathleen in florida finishing off the phone portion of this. this is carol from portland, oregon who said i support the removal of confederate monuments because we should move forward as a species. let's not forget what rob really set himself. i think it's wise not to keep

and endeavor to obliterate the marks of this strife. we have two guests joining us before the house comes in a 9:00. first up we will talk with republican congressman bill johnson of ohio, a member of the budget and energy commerce committee. york,on adriana of new talking about the same topics. also a member of the small business committee. all coming up when "washington journal" continues. ♪ >> book tv on c-span two has top nonfiction books and offers every week -- authors every weekend. professor,niversity author of "begin again: james baldwin's america and its

lessons for our own." is joined in conversation at 9:00 p.m. eastern, a washington state congresswoman with the book, "use the power you have." she is interviewed by jim himes. watch tv on c-span2 this weekend. >> " washington journal" continues. --t: robertson representative bill johnson, thank you for joining us. as a budget committee member, i am sure you look at prospects of another coronavirus relief bill through that kind of lens. what are your concerns about what is being discussed in the house versus the senate, and what portions of the relief bill are you comfortable with supporting? i agree with senator

mcconnell that we have to make sure that any kind of future relief bill, it has got to be targeted. we have already spent almost $3 trillion, and a lot of the money that has already been appropriated by congress has not made it down to the american people that it was appropriate for in the first place. there is still money in the paycheck protection program. that needs to get out to small businesses. you have got money that was appropriated to the states for state and local government help. that money has not all made it down to the local communities that it was designed for, that it was appropriated for. so we have got to make sure that whatever we do going forward, that it is targeted, that it meets an actual need of either stymieing down the pandemic or economic recovery. i think things like liability protections, making sure that

businesses are not held accountable if someone gets covid and then files a frivolous lawsuit claiming that they got it at this business, that kind of thing. is there more help that needs to go out to small businesses? i think that yet remains to be seen, but i am certainly open for discussion. another big area is broadband access. you know, every decision-maker, from the local level to the president, now understands that in the 21st century, access to high-speed internet is as important as access to plumbing and electricity in terms of opportunity and quality of life in america. and whether it is telehealth, distance-learning, or remote working, there is a lot we can do to build out broadband into rural arts of america. so those are some of the kinds of things that i am looking at. host: the broadband aspect, and you mentioned it is tied to

schools, and image in more funding for schools and should they reopen this fall, where do they stand, and should they reopen? a publicok, i am school product myself. the teachers that i had -- i went to 13 schools in 12 years. a lot of reasons for that, and that is a different discussion. but i remember most of the teachers and the teachers i had that played such an influential role in my life and development. and that these young people, these children, need to get back in the classroom. they need their teachers. believe it or not, their teachers need them. that is why they chose the profession. i have a 16-year-old going into his junior year in high school. i believe he needs to be back in the classroom. so we need to figure this out. how to get kids backol and do it safely. if it were possible to do distance-learning for every student in america, that might be a different story. but in rural america were many

doldren -- even the teachers not have access to high-speed internet to do their schoolwork, basis, -- on a regular even when school is in session in the classrooms, students struggle with being able to do their school projects because they do not have access. so getting students back in the classroom is the right thing to do. we just need to do it safely, and i believe we can do that. this there is discussions week going on, especially as the unemployment benefit boost is set to expire -- where do you stand on that? and should the next round include a direct payment to families? the unemployment insurance -- i get that question a lot from business owners in my district. you know, they say, bill, congress is incentivizing people to stay home. they make more on unemployment than i can pay them. and this unemployment extension is temporary.

how do we get these people back to work? so i think that is another one where senator mcconnell and republicans in the senate and the house believe that whatever we do, that unemployment extension has got to be tailored back. it has got to incentivize people to go back to work, not incentivize people not to work. as far as another stimulus to individuals, i think the secretary of treasury has indicated that there might be another round. i think the white house has indicated that they may support that. how much? i don't know. but clearly, americans are still suffering from the results of this pandemic and being shut down. we have seen millions of jobs created, but the best thing we can do is get americans back to work. but anything we do in a future package has got to be targeted. we do not have a limitless, bottomless pot of money. another way it works. host: representative bill

johnson joining us until 8:00. you can ask questions about discussions on capitol hill on coronavirus or other matters by calling us. (202) 748-8000, democrats. (202) 748-8001, republicans. .ndependents, (202) 748-8002 you can text us at (202) 748-8003. .ost on twitter, @cspanwj in your state, you mandate when it comes to masks. what is your decision? guest: i am going to wear a mask. it is easy to sit on the sidelines and throw rocks at decisions being made by decision-makers. i think there is a universal acceptance now in the health care community with physicians and the medical community that masks actually do work. work in flattening the curve and

stamping down this virus. so our governor has mandated masks when you cannot social distancing my public, and i am certainly going to be wearing one. i think that is the responsible thing to do. maskswhen it comes to overall, should this be a mandate from the white house, some sort of national mask enforcement? guest: i think this is a states issue. i think rural america is different than metropolitan and urban areas. and i think the governors are more than qualified to make this kind of decision. i think this is a state issue, and i think governors should be responsible in their actions. i think ours, governor mike dewine, is being responsible. host: you have probably seen as much as anybody the direct questions to the president about him wearing a mask, pictures of him doing so in the last couple days. is this a process he should have done a long time ago? guest: i am not going to criticize the president the president works in a different environment than you and i work

in and most americans work in. he is able to social distance. that is essentially the rule that governor mike dewine in ohio has put out. you have to wear a mask in public when you cannot social distancing. is up to theat president, and i am glad to see -- and i think american is glad to see the president has acknowledged that masks are important, and he is showing leadership by following the example -- setting the example. host: our guest is with us until 8:00. first call is from massachusetts, independent line. william, you're on with representative bill johnson. caller: hi, i have got a question for you. on the heroes act, they passed local aid for big cities and small towns, but for some outon, there is a delgado of new york amendment were small towns or maybe getting $327 per resident for their fiscal budgets, but for some reason big

per resident,0 like boston and springfield, massachusetts. but get $1200 per resident, many small towns are getting $327 per resident. how come no one debated that when it was passed? guest: it was debated, and some of us expressed concern about that. ultimately, the rules that came out of the treasury department was that if you are a county of 500,000 or more people, then you get that money directly from the federal government. otherwise, it is up to the state. your governor in massachusetts has some flexibility in how that money is rolled out to local governments and local communities. that is not a federal decision. in the state of ohio, governor mike dewine has that decision. and that is what i was talking about earlier, some of that money, the state and local

government, local community money, has yet to make it onto those local communities because the states are struggling with figuring out the rules about how to make it fair. it is not a perfect system, but we in congress did what we thought was appropriate in passing legislation that would give the states that money. but we also gave the states the flexibility to figure out how to send it down. so i would encourage you to talk to your state rep, talk to your governor, and ask them those questions. host: the heroes act also highlights $10 billion for the economic injury disaster loan program. is that something that you would say wait until all the money is spent or is this something you would support? entry and economic disaster loans through the small, those are loans that small businesses benefitted from and are still benefiting from peer and so i think i understood your question. yes, i support that program. and many businesses in my

district benefited from that program. is, then detroit. michael on the democrat's line. caller: excuse me, i am a little nervous. i am listening to you talking, and you saying it gives people a signal not to work. but did you know that they stopping people from working -- why not raise the minimum wage? people, thisich congress,x cut, and yell don't go to work anyway. , and: i hear your question there is a lot of misconception and misperception on what the tax cuts and jobs act did. the tax cuts and jobs act gave a tax cut to nearly every category of american. everybody was in the same boat.

businesses and offended. employees benefited. individuals benefited from that tax cut and jobs act. i am all for raising the minimum rates -- wage. but i think that decision needs to be up to employers to raise the minimum wage. i think it should be market-driven, not government mandated. if you start raising the minimum wage across the board in a government mandate, many businesses -- how is that going to be handled in a small business? businesses are going to have to lay off employees in order to pay some of their employees a higher wage. employees are going to end up unemployed, having to go work multiple jobs. so i am with you. i was born and raised on a mule farm, so i understand what working for a living means, and i loved it when i got jobs that paid me a higher salary. but it was my employer that made that determination. it was not a government mandate. if we have a strong economy, we

can get people higher wages. and if you have looked over the last two years under the trump administration and a republican-led congress, wages increased for the american people across the board, more so than they have in decades. so we're making progress. we are not there yet, but we're making progress. host: from a matter of budget, representative, richard in florida asked this question off of texting, does congress have a plan to pay back this 26 million dollars as it cannot be mathematically paid back i our grandchildren with all the other problems congress has made? guest: my goodness, you struck a tone with me there. i absolutely agree with you, we have a tremendous, from his problem moving forward about how we are going to address the national debt and the deficit. if you look at what the federal government spends as a pie and you cut that into portions, only

about one-third of what the federal government spends every year is argued about during the budget and appropriating process. only about one-third of it. two-thirds of what the american government spends every year, that goes completely under the radar, that the american people are never told about in the national media is mandatory spending. large mandatory spending programs that have built up over years and years of frivolous, out-of-control spending by the federal government. and if we were to zero out the entire budget that we argue about every year, zero it out, if we did not spend a penny to openthe federal agencies and if we did not spend a penny on our national security, our spending trajectory is still going in the wrong direction. we are still spending more than we take in in revenue.

and so we absolutely must reform these mandatory spending programs going forward. i am trying to do that as a member of the budget committee. but when you got programs out there like medicare for all that our --dd $32 trillion to over 10 years, to our spending, when you have got the green new deal that would eliminate oil and gas and coal and other energy sources, that would cost upwards of $1 trillion over -- i am sorry, $90 trillion over 10 years. my goodness. those are the kind of programs that we should not be talking about. those were part of the joe biden -- those are part of the joe biden platform. that we should be talking about how we reform these mandatory spending programs and get our spending back under control. that is what the american people sent us here to do. host: our guest service the fifth district of ohio,

including places like marietta and salem. we will hear from dayton, republican line. susan, you are on with our guest. caller: good morning. this is a suit and -- susan in dayton. i wanted to confirm that just out of casual conversation, i have had several acquaintances tell me they are not going back they arentil after $600 in the expanded unemployment. this is a real thing here and i was in shock. how would you like to respond, representative? guest: yeah, that is what i was talking about earlier, susan, and i am glad you brought that up. that is what i meant and i said that this $600 a week of federal unemployment extension is incentivizing people not to

work. that expires on july 31. and these employees are going to have a tough decision to make. they need to go back to work. and any supplemental or any further help that comes from congress is going to have to adjust that unemployment benefit to incentivize americans to go back to work. we cannot pay americans more on unemployment than they can make from their employer. that is a disincentive to go to work, and we are going to have to work on that for anything we do going forward. host: a viewer asked, it makes a statement saying the jobs are not there, they're gone, that $600 trickle up instead of the usual republican trickle down has kept us from entering the great depression. guest: well, i do not think those jobs are gone. there is no question about it, some businesses have been hit harder than others, but i can tell you that i hear from

employers all the time in the eastern and southeastern ohio. i cannot get my workers to come ba to work because you, and they say congress, the federal government, is paying them more than i can afford to pay them. you guys need to stop. so i am not saying that you cannot find isolated cases where businesses have closed up and they are not going to reopen, but there are jobs out there for the american people. millions of jobs were created prior to the pandemic -- millions of jobs were created. prior to the pandemic, we had the lowest unemployment rate in five decades, 50 years. so i know those jobs are there, and the american people just need to take them. and they will if they are given the chance. host: pat is next from connecticut, independent line. caller: good morning. i am a frontline health care worker, and we -- i have not missed a day.

i worked my holidays and weekends. i am wondering if there will ever be the hazard pay and would it be retroactive? i see a lot of people on unemployment making a lot more than i am. and we heard a lot of lip service for the heroes and the little cutout hearts, but the feeling i get is that we can never thank you enough so we are not even going to try. guest: pat, i appreciate what you do. i have got family members that are frontline workers like you, and my heart goes out to you and all of our front-line workers, health-care workers, ems, paramedics, fire, and police that are doing everything they believable hours , to get us through this pandemic. but you guys are on the front lines, no questions about that. we have spent hundreds and

billions -- we have sent hundreds and billions of dollars to hospitals and health care facilities. some hospitals are doing it different than others in taking care of their health care workers. i would encourage all hospitals to look at your people, take care of your people first. so i agree with you, that we need to be looking at our frontline workers, our heroes, that are doing that work that no one else can do. you know, a lot of people do not think about our front line workers until they are laying in a hospital bed, and then they're grateful that they are there. clearly, there is more work done -- to be done in this area. host: the heroes act does call for the establishment of $200 billion for a heroes fund for essential workers. can you sign onto that? guest: the heroes act has a lot of other things in it, and i do not think you have time during the show to go through it all. there was some good things in

the heroes act, but it was packed full of things that we cannot support either. and that is why you have not seen it get any attention in the senate. it was crafted by speaker pelosi by herself, with no input from republicans in the house. and so it is going to die of its own weight. it was a very partisan-driven piece of legislation. it had some good, but i had a whole lot of bad. and so we are ready to talk about how to take care of the american people. we are ready to talk about how to help the american people get back on their feet from this pandemic. but it has got to be bipartisan. it has got to be an america first kind of philosophy, not a push toward radical left policies like speaker pelosi tried to put in place. host: andre is in virginia, democrats line. caller: good morning. senator -- apologize if i got

your title run. in terms of the $600, really quickly, working my hotel, and even i feel this way sometimes, a lot of folks are staying home and not going back to work and the $600. but a lot of my employees, they have been unemployed now are laid off now going on 3, 4 months, so that means health insurance has expired. if they want health insurance, they have to take cobra, and cobra cost us and our amanda leg. think about everyone out there forced to take cobra health insurance. with everything going on right now and if someone loses insurance and your are put on a ventilator for 7, 10 days, your coming on half $1 million in terms of your medical bills. i know we want to incentivize and make sure the airlines stay afloat and things of that nature. but i wonder about hospitals. is there any way congress can help the hospitals with bills

they will accrue because folks, quite frankly, cannot pay some of those bills that they will have to pay after having to stay in the hospital 2, 3 set a time get over covid? host: we will let our guest response. guest: i agree with you totally. i do not know if you heard my response a little earlier, congress has already appropriated hundreds of billions of dollars to hospitals, and i have talked to many of my hospitals in ohio and even in some big cities like alum is in cleveland about how important that money was -- like columbus and cleveland about how important that money was. does it cover every dime the hospitals incurred? no, it probably doesn't, but it is keeping them alive, keeping them afloat, and enabling them to provide the services that are so essential to our community. and thehe cobra issue health insurance, look, i have long been a supporter of making health insurance portable, that

it would go from state to state and job to job. in other words, if you get laid off from your job or you change jobs and you can make that health insurance premium, you should be able to keep the health insurance that you have. you should not be bumped off of it and forced into this cobra scenario where you are paying twice, three, four times as much for your health insurance. that has long been a policy i have advocated for, and i will continue to do so. host: it was yesterday that the white house said they possibly could send federal officers to cleveland to help fight crime there. what do you think about this proposal from the white house? es i think the federal government has a responsibility and authority and the right to protect federal property. that is what those federal agents are going there for. look, the violence that we see all over america, we know where

it is coming from. it is coming from liberal cities with liberal mayors that are telling their police to stand down. that is what is encouraging this violence, and these liberal mayors and governors, if they want help getting out of this mess, they have got to ask for it. that is the way our system works. under only extreme circumstances can the president of the united states send agents and law ororcement or national guard federal resources into estate without that state asking for it. is the one case that he can when federal properties are being threatened and vandalized. we have a responsibility to take care of those, and i believe that is what the president is doing, and i commend him for that. host: the vote yesterday in the

house about removal of some of those confederate statues, how did you vote? guest: i voted yes. i believe, you know, let's roll it back a little bit. and i am part of the south you might find this interesting. i was born on the cotton and tobacco fields of north carolina, so i was born and raised in the south. born in the 1950's, raised in the 1960's, lived through the civil rights movement in the south. so i lived this up close and personal. but i can tell you, the confederate states declared war on the united states. the united states won. the confederate states lost. we should not be honoring insurrectionists. we would not be honoring insurrectionists running through our streets perpetrating violence today. i do not leave we would do that. we should not do it in that case. it is not the confederate flag that should be honored in

america, it is the american flag that should be honored. the last caller on segment that said something that i had not thought of. you know, these statues should not be thrown away. they should be put in museums or sent back to the states and many of theseause statues were created and put in place as a means of reconciliation. there were many people that wanted abraham lincoln to punish the southern states for what they had perpetrated in the civil war, but he said, no, a nation divided cannot stand, a house divided cannot stand. we must move forward as one nation or we're not going to make it. the entire world is standing there watching to see whether or not this idea of self-governance is really going to work, and the proof, the evidence of that decision, the value of that generationss then a

later, the sons and daughters of those that bled and died in the civil war came together, arm in arm, and went off to fight tyranny in world war i in europe. and we have had farmer victories than defeat as americans ever since we reunited after the civil war. so i understand why some of these statues are offensive to some americans, and we should not be applauding insurrectionists for their actions. but we put these monuments up for two reasons. to learn from our mistakes and to honor our heritage and keep our history alive. so we should not destroy these statues. host: one more call, john in tennessee, republican line. jump right in. two,r: my comment, i have the first one is i keep hearing that employers are saying and

republicans in congress are saying people are not going back to work because they are being paid more to stay home. the fact is, if you are called back to work by your employer and you do not go back to work, you lose all your unemployment benefits and get nothing by refusing to go back to work. a loss of your unemployment benefits. i wish people would quit saying that because it is misleading and not true. host: i apologize because we are running short on time. representative? you are exactly right. that is the way it is supposed to work. the way it is supposed to work. but unemployment offices at state levels are being overwhelmed with unemployment claims. and so, quite honestly, some of these situations are falling through the cracks, and people that are called back by their employer, somehow they are skating through, falng it is nog picked up.

you are exactly right though, if you have a job or your called back to your job, you forfeit your unemployment benefits. i agree with that. host: a quick question there are reports that former ohio governor john kasich may speak for joe biden at the dnc. what do you think of these reports, and what happens if he does? guest: clearly john kasich has changed his party affiliation, and siding up with joe biden and his platform, which is contrary to the way most ohioans feel. think john kasich is going to get very much support from ohioans for his actions. host: representative bill johnson, fifth district, a member of the budget and energy and commerce committee or thank you for your time. we will spend the next half-hour until our next guest talking about a subject which the congressman brought up, the desion by the president to send law enforcement to certain cities.

if you want to make your comments known, how you feel about this decision, if you support the action, call (202) 748-8000. ]if you oppose it, (202) 748-81 . you can post on social media, too. we will take those calls when "washington journal" continues. >> american history tv on c-span3, exploring the people and events that tell the american story every weekend. coming up this weekend, saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, on lectures in the hisry, we look back to 2012 and hear about the roots and development of the modern conservative movement. then sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern on reel america, police training films from the 1960's. 6:00 p.m. eastern on american artifacts, a tour of the ellis island immigration museum. 7:00 p.m. eastern, two

historians talk about recent debates over removing historical monuments. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. "washington journal" continues. host: this story reflects a decision by the white house yesterday, this once thing federal officials say they plan to send hundreds of law enforcement officers to chicago and other cities to help fight rising gun violence as president trump since a law and order message that paints a leaders of democratic-run cities as too soft on crime. from the white house yesterday, here is the president on the proposal. [video clip] >> every american should be able to walk their city streets free from violence and free from fear. for this reason today, i am announcing that the department of justice will immediately search federal law enforcement to the city of chicago.

the fbi, atf, dea, u.s. marshals service, and homeland security will together be sending hundreds of skilled enforcement officers to chicago to help drive down violent crime. and murderers and violent criminals are breaking a wide range of federal laws, we have that as wide as it can be, and we will find them, arrest them, and prosecute them. they will be in jail for many years to come. and we will work with local police to identify violations of state and local laws to help ensure that offenders are caught and jailed for their crimes. but we must remember that the job of policing a neighborhood falls on the shoulders of local elected leadership. never forget that. advocate their duty, the results are catastrophic. americans must hold their city leaders accountable. they must insist that community

officials fully support, fully back, and fully fund local police simply no substitute for a police department that has the strong backing of city leaders. host: albuquerque, new mexico, one of those it is mentioned, and its mayor was talking -- did an interview on npr on this 1topic and was asked about thi, saying, i think its a real challenge. we always welcome actual crime-fighting partnership. speakerhe earlier mentioned this is supposed to be bread-and-butter, but we are worried about more of a bait and switch. we have seen this from this administration before. the front end. from the back end, it becomes a secret police situation, like portland, and we absolutely do not want that, and that is not real crime-fighting. it is politics standing in the way of absolute -- actual police work to make our cities less safe. is a mayor, i get no details or explanation of what these officers will do. so we are concerned in the

absence of that. that interview from yesterday on npr. you can find it online. callingughts on this, in the california, who supports it. your first up. go ahead. caller: yes, good morning. i am curious to know about what the law enforcement being sent where we have very limited law enforcement ability at this point, there is quite a bit of action taken and there is division. i would like to know that we can come together, having been a former police officer myself many years ago. i am stunned at the division it has created, and i would like to know how we can possibly come together as a state and as a country. host: when it comes to the president's actual decision to send law enforcement, what do you think of that? caller:we do. we need law enforcement.

this country what would be without law enforcement. we need law enforcement. because the situation we're in now is dividing us. we need someone to step in and say, no, you cannot go in and actually commit crime to force your opinion on other people, which is taking place in our southern california region. we need to come together as a country, as a state and as a country, but this particular situation has created so much division, we have to have law enforcement. host: another californian, lynn on our oppose line. caller: i agree with real law enforcement, but this dhs with no labels other than police and throwing tear gas at people that is peacefully protesting putin'se coaching --

russia or turkey or syria. something is wrong. this needs to stop. the people need identification. said thatal honore these people should not be camong our soldiers' outfits. camouflage outfits given to our troops. these are not our troops. these are police sent by donald j. trump. host: ok. that is lynn in california. wall street journal adding that the justice department will send over 200 more federal agents to chicago to help police fight gun crime a fugitives, through urging illegal gun sales, and prosecuting gun cases in court. attorney general william barr made the point of differentiating between the efforts on gun crime which had been launched on some scale in prior years with a separate push

against protesters, but we're going to continue to confront mob violence. the operations we're discussing today are very different, they are classic crime-fighting. sandy,is joining us from oregon, on our support line. caller: hello, good morning to you. god bless you guys for doing everything you are doing on this channel. i am a supporter of your channel. portland that in stood in front of the gas -- well, what happened, is he did a lot of -- [indiscernible] thing is, why was he there? protesters,ting the and i think it is very wrong that he's doing what he did just thist revoting for

democrat stuff. am supportive of the united states of america. i cannot go down in portland and enjoy myself to go out partying or whatever, and it is not fair the people around portland and oregon. these protesters doing this stuff. host: ok. brenda in los angeles, california, on our oppose line. only i oppose any agency coming in that our governor has not requested, and i wish somebody would give president trump cliff notes read because he is always crossing the line. so thank you very much. host: that is brenda in los angeles, california. from the decisions of the

president yesterday came reaction from members of congress, including senator ted cruz, also touting efforts he is making, saying that he is introducing a bill to hold local officials liable for allowing "battling a thomas zones." saying that paul the armed forces task is protecting our country from foreign adversaries. lindsey graham singh president trump is right to use federal troops in portland. and another one thing president trump, get jackbooted goons out of my city. , a formerrom florida law-enforcement official, sing the misuse of unidentified federal law enforcement officers and his administration in portland is disturbing and familiar to anyone who has seen an authoritarian state.

the rule of law in america relies on transparency, justice, and fairness. and chris coons, senator, saying president trump should be working to listen to the protesters and unify our country him instead he is trying to bully and intimidate. that is not leadership, and that will not work. some reactions from congress. opposes mississippi this action by the president, hello. this is the wholedi believe reason the second amendment was put in the constitution, to keep unlawful presidents and government from invading your state. militia was tod defend against this, the whole purpose of the second amendment. i would like to know what the nra and these gun right activists are. highlight on the planet the president announced

wednesday expense and existing program that sent hundreds of federal agents to kansas city, missouri, after a four-year-old boy's shooting death to help quell a record rise and violence. it is not uncommon. attorney general william barr announced a similar effor in other cities with a spike in violence. 100 department of homeland security investigations officers that generally conduct trafficking and child exploitation cases. it is under the justice umbrella. next from florida, a supporter of this action. caller: yes, i support this action, and i will tell you why. you know,verybody that keep reporting on how trump is breaking our constitution, well, our governors and our state officials, democrats or republicans, are there to protect the american people and property. and they are not doing it. on that?is our news and where is the common sense?

i mean, we are seeing all this violence, and the people that are protesting peacefully, they are putting their lives in danger. why aren't they out there supporting trump more and decrying all of this interference in their protests? host: let's hear from someone from portland, oregon. marianne is on our oppose line. caller: yes, i oppose them bringing unmarked federal officers to portland because there is a lot of right-wing militia groups out there who dress like that, in camouflage, who are out in their military, -toting camps who like violence. they want to start a civil war. when you have people jumping on say they're not

posing as soldiers and kidnapping people, and who knows what happens to these people? if federal officers want to arrest people in portland, they need to have uniforms and do it on federal property and have some reason. i called homeland security and spoke to someone there, called the police department and spoke to someone there, and both of those agencies claim we know nothing about what the other one is doing and have nothing to do with it. host: if i may ask, if you made those kind of calls, how do you think the coven are there, kate brown, the mayor, how do we think they were handling the situation in the days leading up to this as far as protests or demonstrations? caller: you have to understand, portland is a very liberal cities, and these things calm down and were calming down. the person from sandy called, and he does not live in portland. he does not come to portland a lot. people during the daytime walked around portland all the time.

i used to go to a lot of protests, and people are never harmed that these protests unless you get into a physical altercation with an opposing person. this violence is happening at nighttime. granted, i do not think people should be burning down buildings and they should be caught, but -- host: are you saying that the governor and mayor had a handle on this? caller: yes, they did, and it was calming down. portland, these things go on and then taper down, and black lives matter is a very important issue in our city. it would have tapered down. but when president trump sends these federal officers, it is like a slap in the face to people, and it is instigating more trouble and causing more anger. and now he wants to send them to chicago. if he would get his federal troops out of here and not do calmed down.d have host: ok.

chris is next, maryland. supporter of the president. caller: thank you for taking my call. i believe a lot of these people calling are misinformed, ok. they actually do have police markings on their uniforms, all right? and it does not matter if you are from portland, from d.c., from seattle. violence and looting is violence and looting. and it was not calming down. it is all a political stunt. people do not realize this is an election year, ok, so he is sending people down there because they are hurting our officers. there looting our businesses. and they are causing havoc. host: a caller from portland just said things were calming down. caller: that is what she said. she is watching the wrong channels, too much into cnn and msnbc. that is not true.

if you watch it every night, it was not calming down. don't people see the umbrella's, why they are carrying the umbrellas now? so they can block the teargas or throw what they want to throw and blot the cameras and nobody sees them? it is crazy. you know, i am 60 years and have seen protests. i have been in protests. when i was 30, 35 years old, i was a democrat. now that i am older, i have turned republican, but i'm am still living in a liberal area. i am one of those liberal republicans. i voted for trump, but i voted for obama, as well. host: ron in new hampshire opposing the effort. c-span hi, thank you, peer you guys are awesome. it is just unconstitutional. donald trump has a federal response to protesters, but 140 plus thousand people are dead from covert and he cannot come

up with a federal response to that? i think that is nuts. he is not a leader at all. he is a joke. he is a snake of a salesman. host: what is it about the action that you oppose? caller: well, they are sent there under false pretenses. the first thing i heard is that they are there to protect federal buildings. then they need to surround the federal buildings and not let the federal buildings get harmed. but that does not give them credibility to go out and just snatch people off the streets here that is nuts. i think the local police should be arresting these federal officers for breaking the constitution, breaking the law. host: do you think the local police are handling the situation with the absence of these forces? caller: the lady that lives in portland is not watching it on tv, she is living it she says they have it under control. host: but what do you think? caller: i think the police have it and current -- under control. there may be outliers, and there

maybe some bad elements, but i think, ultimately, police can handle it. they did not invite the federal officers. if they needed them, i am sure have. but they do not need them. i am sure they don't. and they need to have a response to get those federal officers out of there, whether it is people -- i do not know if portland is a right to carry states, but the guy about the malicious was absolutely right. if i am out there protesting, peacefully protesting, and some unmarked federal officers come to grab me off the street, if i have got a gun, i am going to shoot back. the: bob in new hampshire re. a couple events to watch for on c-span. the health education committee will look into how to open schools safely during the pandemic. members will hear from the dallas school superintendent, the national pta president, and dr. robert redfield of the cdc.

that is that 10:15 this morning on c-span3, online at c-span.org , and you can listen on the freak c-span radio app. also, a house ways and means subcommittee examining lessons are from the coronavirus pandemic when it comes to trade manufacturing and supply chains. c-span3 at 2:00 eastern time, and also and the radio app. tom in florida, a supporter of these efforts. hello. caller:host: go ahead. caller: yes, good morng. i am of the mind that these people that are protesting, they are not protesters. there may be some in the crowd, but the majority of them are rioters. when you start breaking windows, smashing glass, throwing rocks at the police, how can you call the peaceful protesting? for the last caller who had the brilliant idea of carrying a gun

and shooting a federal officer, good luck with that. host: a previous caller from portland said things were under control. do you believe her? caller: she needs to take half her pill the next time. if anybody watches what is going on on all the channels, they can smashing and breaking things and the supposedly peaceful protesters cheering them on in the background. lynchburg, virginia, oppose line. hello. caller: yes, how you doing? host: well, thank you. caller: president trump does not have the right to send law messcement in there to with those people while there protesting peaceful. that guy that called, he just wrong. host: when it comes to protecting federal property, that is some of the basis of the administration sending these personnels. caller: yeah, but he does not have the right though to do nothing like that. you need to take care of

business about this virus going around. host: ok. when it comes to issues of covid-19, $2 billion for a deal for a future vaccine. this is being reported by many this morning. billion agreement. t of health and human services and the defense department will receive 100 million doses of the vaccine should it be cleared by regulators. it can also acquire an additional 500 million doses. no vaccine in developing has proven to work safely yet, although dozens are the u.s. ans are spending billions to secure potential vaccines and treatments should they prove safe and effective. from north carolina, we will hear from shirley on our support line. caller: can you hear me? host: you are on. caller: ok, yes, i would like to

say that as far as president trump goes, i do not approve of everything he does, but he cannot do much more for the virus, and if people would do what they are supposed to do as far as wearing masks,'s being apart, stop gathering, that would help -- staying apart, stop gathering, that would help. as far as taking in troops, i think that is the right thing to because the local authorities in these cities are trying to disband the police. they are supporting them and letting all this go on. something needs to be done. also, if these billionaires that are sending in people to keep the rioting and the protesting going on, everybody riled up, then we could get some clarity. thank you for your time. host: if you have been watching the senate, you know the debate is going on between the white house and senate republicans about what they would like to see when it comes to a future

relief package. roll call reporting republicans at the trump administration aspect to reveal a covid-19 relief plan today. it will no longer be one bill but a series of bills addressing the ongoing economic crises. senator blunt of missouri, but i think the leader has decided he wants to do is have a handful of bills now instead of one, and the goal is to get all those bills out there. he did not know if they would eventually be passed for consideration. not sure whether the senate will be voting on it individually or if this becomes a negotiating position. also breaking off of cnbc from an interview that the secretary of treasury has done, steven thatin, saying the amount enhanced unemployment will be renewed act will be "based on 70% of wage replacement." more details coming out as the day was on. eric and the washington, d.c.,

on our oppose line. caller: hi, good morning. i am saying is when these guys were up at that -- [indiscernible] how they was roughing the police up trying to get in there and it was ok, but let's assume the black lives matter's protest and all of the set and all of the sudden we are criminals and doing this. there is a percentage of the people that pollute and rob and that is all they do, and they have nothing to do with the black lives matter. they're not the klan. but assume people of color decide they want to stand up and protest police brutality. we are not against police. we all have people in our family that is police. embarrassingt is for people to call here and say they should send them in.

you know, let it start happening to these white protesters and all of the set in the story is going to change it i need you to do is when it starts happening, see how many people call in saying they want the police to come. they always crying about the amendments. int: ok, let's go to keith florida, support line. caller: good morning. our nation needs prayers. this is one of the craziest stories i have ever heard in my life. after 50 days of peaceful millionng almost in burnt buildings that the congressman acknowledge the day before and shoved it off to peaceful protesting, $60 million worth, and then they tried to burn the federal courthouse down, the building. we already had a federal agent killed from one of these protests because of them attacking the federal building. a building with

people inside. president trump since federal agents that are all marked on the sides of their arms from what agency they are. badgeave serial and numbers on there so they can tell the individual. they do not put names on it because then the good people in front of their house. these people are marked. the people that were pulled off of the street, 17 of them are in jail. the two they let go that they had the video of, they were identified from the night before trying to burn down the building. because theylet go cannot prove that it was them. this is ridiculous. host: ok. we will go to jeff in virginia on our oppose line. morning.ey, good one clarification from the previous caller, that federal agent was killed by a right-winger.

i think it is pretty telling when you have federal agents gassing suburban moms during the portland protests over the last several days. number one,ern is, i think this is unconstitutional, and i also think, is this a dress or herself or november if the election is close and donald trump refutes the results? are we going to see federal agents in federal cities, occupying them and sing the results are invalid? these are s in foreign governm. you look at turkey, saudi arabia, china, what they did in hong kong. i mean, this is exactly taken out of the dictator playbook. host: npr has a story looking at efforts in the kansas city, how federal agents will be identified there. you can find the story online. it says the operation in the kansas city will be part of a new push agast violent crime,

and it will be identifiable they will not be roving the streets to make arrests, according to a u.s. attorney there who said these agents will be patrolling the streets, and when making arrestor executing warrants, they will be clearly edified by their agency's badges. pke presence of law-enforcement agents has become a new flashpoint in the national protests, which is most prevalent in portland, oregon. with kansas city, heaid the only people federal agents will be removing from the street are those they arrest during investigations of violent crimes. that is kansas city. you can see what else is going on from that interview if you wish. that is available on npr. the house comes in at 9:00 today to conduct speeches, and we will have a guest leading up to that. democratic congressman adriano espaillat of new york, member of a small business committee. we will talk about financial relief to small businesses and individuals, as well as the coronavirus pandemic.

all that coming up when we come back. hearings next week. on monday, jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg, google, and tim cood administrative law as they examine dominance of online platforms and market power. live coverage begins monday at noon eastern on c-span two and that tuesday -- on tuesday at 10:00 in eastern william barr appears before the general oversight of the justice department hearing. watch live hearing coverage monday on c-span2, and tuesday on c-span3. c-span.org, oron listen on the free c-span radio app. washington journal continues. ast: our guest is

representative of new york, democrat from that state, a member of the small business committee, and we welcome you back to the show, sir. guest: thank you for having me once again. host: on the small business front, what are the differences between house and the senate providing in the covid-19 relief package? certainly, we would like to see a bigger carveout for community banks and the credit unions that have a long-standing relationship with small businesses on main street, and we want to see main street help. in the past we have bailed out wall street, we bailed out the airline industry. i think main street deserves to get an injection of oxygen in their economy. reportershe biggest in the country and as such, they are having a rough time reopening. we need to help out.

we carveout a bigger percentage of the funding for these community-based banks and credit unions, we are guaranteeing that the money is going to go where it makes the most sense, main street, small businesses, to the mom-and-pop stores. the people that have a long-standing relationship with communities. host: are there any changes to actually who gets the money, and that they really deserve to get the money? guest: we saw how last time ,uring the first round of ppp's many businesses were shamed into giving back the money. some of the traditional banking institutions went right to the preferred customers and small businesses were left out. it was during the second round of funding that we caught out $60 billion, that we saw some traction, we saw some help getting to main street.

we see now how businesses in new york tried to reopen. race is a big issue, it was an issue for many small businesses. there's a big percentage of the operational cost. of course, they need to get back and open but they are having a rough time. they need additional help. the $600 unemployment increase is expected to run out this week. what is the proper way forward, and should? i previous guest talk about that from what he heard from business owners in ohio, that it was a disincentive to go back to work. thatere are certain states are actually being ravaged and this is by covid-19, not by any means over. i know that with new york and

jersey and the northeast coast -- hit hard,ard, we are also not over with it there. we may see u[pticks in the number in that region as well. but now you have texas and florida and you have arizona and other states that are being pandemic, and i think it's really sad to see how there is a rush to get people out and to reopen at any cost. to be veryneed careful about this, we need to be deliberate about this. we need to open the right way pr wave of coronavirus not during the flu season or any other time. countries,in other they've gone back to social distancing and shutting down businesses and having

quarantine and restricting the movement of people around. to say that we want everybody out of work, i think of a $600 is going to come in very handy to many people because people are still hurting. the information that i get from i can did humans if they are concerned about backed up rent. they are concerned about safety for their children. they are still skeptical about going out there where there are large numbers of people congregating, so this is a real .roblem to rush people back to reopen irresponsibly could cause deaths in those states. we should extend the $600 through the end of the year and i think that is a sound policy and i think if we do a delivery

and -- deliberately and in a responsible way. host: you've probably heard the information that goshen's are going on with the white house and the senate, secretary mnuchin saying that the assistance will be renewed, but it will be based at 70% wage replacement. >> we are still negotiating this. there ought to be another stimulus check. rentinly there ought to be release. as $100 billion in the heroes act. people are backed up three or s rent. sleeping, worried about where they are going to get the money to pay the rent. this is so critical. there are businesses like the restaurant business that have made specific acts. i think it is smart to do it that way. restaurants in many ways define our community, people come from all over the city of new york and across the tri-state area to dine in my district, that's how

they get to know the district. bronx,rlem and the people come to me. restaurantsegin with and they are having a hard time opening up again. pointuld be able at some for spifeconomy like the restaut , so that is a smart way to do it. host: if you want to call and ask our guestions, the house is inspected coming at 9:00. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. foryou can post your thoughts n twitter and our facebook page. this week, the trump administration signed an effort about the census, and having

those identified as illegal aliens not be counted. what do you x'ink of that move? guest: this is the first administration that i've seen trying to actually get an undercount. held when we get a precise count. getting a precise count in each district. we will know the demographics of thatwill be able to assist them in the right way. first it was the citizenship question. of course, that was thrown out in court. now there is this executive order asking forundocumenteds n. america, disservice to this is a political move to inject fear, and to actually appointments. he's inject fear into the populn

he can get people not to answer the census applications. it is a disservice to america, the constitution is very clear, this is unconstituonal. each city and state could lose as many as $3000 per resident when they don't fill up their census application. a5if you have children in the schools, understand that if you e count, you will not be getting the resources that you for your children, for every child. undocumented or not. if you're a senior citizen and you have to go to the hospital, understand that if you don't get a precisent, that hospital is going to be shortchanged. your medicaid may be hurt by that. so this is really a host: reprem action,had this stemout in lig/

saying that the undercount including illegal aliens which he says by definition are transient and not belonging to any state undermines the 14th amendment equal protection principles. that'a very right-wing interpretation of the constitution. these folks pay taxes. many of them, sales taxes. contribute to the coffers of government. dreamers are teachers, they are nurses, they are doctors, their small business owners. they are homeowners. from a a long stretch real, fine pointed and focus interpretation of the constitution coming from the gentleman from alabama. upt: we have a call lined for you, we will start in california, democrats line. caller: hello, how are you

doing? guest: good, how are you? call i'm a california toocrat, i would like you keep fighting for us in this stimulus because there's no more overtime, there nothing. i am sick and tired of these people using illegal aliens. we are all god's children. stop using that word, it is sickening. guest: i agree. i agree with you. i think that we need to give positional help and i agree that that the term illegal alien is somewhat offensive. nobody is an alien from another planet or another constellation. we are all human beings and migration is a planet wide dynamic where people come from all over the world to other we bring the best. america is a nation of immigrants. host: from texas, republican line. we will hear from mike.

>> thank you. we are a nation of laws and we have laws for a reason. we want law and order, we want people to obey the laws. we want people to live by the rules. we respect the laws. so we need laws that are followed and enforced. if there is a bad law, if there is a bad law, abraham lincoln said the people will want it changed. immigrants,legal and good people, they love the country as much as i love mine, it doesn't mean they said the rules for immigration. entering another country that has immigration laws as lax and unenforced as ours, that is my point. iso, i want to add that respect c-span, i love c-span. i'm disappointed that the screeners have opinions. the screeners don't necessarily get to thesaying something to tt

they don't like. i was hung up on today and got back through. host: that's absolutely not true. sorry about whatever your immigrants and uncu immigrants, they have all research done by some of the most prestigious academic institutions in the country that has shown that in tend to break the law less than citizens themselves. i don't know of any an document the peon that goes out of their home everyday looking to get arrested. and be deported. other hand, they contribute tremendously to the economy. they take care of our children, they take care of our very frail and elderly. they mow the lawns, they take our cross so that we can eat at the table. they do basic, essential jobs for america.

them when fine with they pick our crops and bring them to the table, but we don't want them in our neighborhoods. we are fine with them when they take care of our seniors and our elderly and sick. we are fine when they take care of our childrenwhen they fix our bathroom, our plumbing, or they do the lawn, but we don't want them in the neighborhoods. shame on you, america. this is not the america that i know. i'm disabled, i've got two questions, actually. disabled, io things on the side. host: keep going, you are on still. caller: kids, watchdogs. i'm about to lose my truck and it's terrible.

talking about freezes, trump is doing a lot of -- a good job. a lot of people he can, i understand that. that's all right. you thatgot remind ronald byrd was a democrat and he was a clan member. and you hold him in high praise. forgiveness, forgive that. we are losing statues which arery to the past. member, was a klan right? you understand that? a recruiter. nobody seems to mention that. when all this racist stuff is going on. host: that is brian. go ahead. guest: it is reprehensible that any member of congress past or present may have belonged to the ku klux klan. i think that is reprehensible.

and someone that is part of that be considered a terrorist organization i think. and with regards to the confederate statues, they represent a very painful part of our past. perhaps they could be at a museum, but certainly not in the capital, certainly not in communities where they are venerated by people. slavery, shackled hundreds and thousands and millions of people the effects of which are still beingelt, even over 400 years venerated,ld not be should not be out down to, they should be rejected, and these statues are representative of that very painful and shameful period of american history and they should not be a public view. host: something you are

advocating for covid-19 is the s compensation fund. what are you looking at that for? guest: first, many folks across america were not able to say goodbye to their loved ones the propermany of them are still veh traumatized by the fact that they loved their mothers or fathers or sisters or brothers or husband or spouse and we should have a monument honoring the heroes, first, because many of the nurses, doctors, and folks that work in high-risk jobs. the cashier at the supermarket was in contact with hundreds of people on a weekly basis. the delivery person that took your food into the house when you could knock it out during the pandemic was also a high-risk job. the bus

conductor, these were folks that were out and about every day in high-risk jobs, and they should be recognized. disconnect with family and thereat we lost should be a place where we can go and recognize them. for thoseld be a fund families, those folks that had, during the pandemic, and those families were left unattended, unprotected. similarould be a fund to the 9/11 victim compensation fund. injure legislation, we are getting a lot of and i think that goes across the country, to understand that this is important. not on fsouls. host: tallahassee, democrat line, good morning. caller: good morning.

thingk the overriding that we've been listening to today is that there is a segment of america that feels exceptional, that feel that anything that does not look like or sound like were moved like other and notow necessarily acceptable. concernedsically about the way african-american people, and i'm an african-american 75-year-old, who i have lived through the segregation and all that. of the removal confederate statues from federal property seems appropriate because those people who feel exceptional want to revere those people who felt that people like

rather,not people, but like cats and dogs and cow be k. andremoval of those those remembrances of superiority for me, those remnants shoul removed at least from federal property. host: claudia, thank you. caller, agree with the and we are looking to do that in the capital and again, this is a very shameful part of our history, it should be left in the past and certainly should not be there before our very own eyes to see it every day. i agree wholeheartedly. host:ss committee, one of the things the senate is advocating for in any package is liability protection. from a business standpoint, is a

good proposition? guest: it depends. there are certain businesses yes, it is hard to determine whether or not someone caught covid-19 at their work. but we have to have certain standards, we have to have certain standards of how we conduct our businesses. that includes both employees and customers as well. so we have to determine what that is. and we have to have the standards that meet the threshold that everybody can feel comfortable with, both employers and employees as well as customers. i think that is important. as we reopen, we do it the right we make sure that we have the protective equipment that we need to have and make sure that we have the plexiglass dividers

that we see very often in banks and other places where people need to feel comfortable and protected. so thiss meet and we really don't pull away from the liability altogether that we establish certaincan conduct business. host: let's go to samuel. samuel is on the line for independence. chip or falls, wisconsin -- chippewa falls, wisconsin. go ahead. wondering, how do you stand for the payroll tax cut provision, and another thing i would ask, the cause of his coronavirus, which i consider came from china, the communist chinese party, i think we should be making them fund a large porcelain -- large io china, ith regards to

think the community in taking p ,ive into what happened there try to prevent this from happening again. certainly, this should be looked , i agree that this should be looked at. the practices in what markets in china, whether it came from a lab, we need to take a look at that to prevent it from happening again. but we need to do this within the world communityblished right now to conduct this in a fair way, that we don't become necessarily what we deplore, a dictatorial government that does things the wrong way, whether folks like it or not. within certain parameters, we need to do it in a fair and equitable way to determine where it came fre the conditions, and to try to prevent that from happening

again, and if they need to move forward with some kind of action or sanction. we will take a look at it from the world community, not necessarily just us. this pandemic is affecting other countries. brazil is being hit very hard, mexico has been hit very hard. we see in europe how they are starting to get a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic. the entire planet has been impacted by this, and we really need to prevent this from happening again. let's hear from richard in albuquerque, new mexico, republican line. all, i would of like to say that you being a democrat is a symbol of slavery because you had better get her -- you had better get that right right there. you want to take down these statues while the democratic party is a symbol of the confederacy, and they are a symbol of slavery.

when youhere is that guys pass this bill, you want to put something else in there, that has nothing to do with the coronavirus like you did in the last act, when you guys gave money to the kennedy center, that had nothing to do with the stimulus at all. that's why this is the delay, because of y guys, trying to blame it on the republicans. 1962, president lincoln sent in the military to control the city because of its terror and destruction that they were doing down there. you guys are trying to pick and choose around here, and you guys need to pay attti people that are dying industry over here because my nephew died, got killed. how come you guys don't put a name after him? you guys what to do something when a black person gets hurt. host: we will it our guest respond to those things. guest: any part of the slavery

or civil war conflict that the weocrats had a part in, should be all ashamed of as well. it doesn't matter whether you are democratic or whether you the fact of the matter is that it is shameful, slavery was a shameful part of ourast, and we should reject it at all costs. with regards to militarizing our cities, i think that we have police department's we have law i thinkent to do that, the police departments in our cities should not be militarized , and to bring in the army of to inject fear in a very difficult time, where people are traumatized, where people either lost loved ones, or they are fighting for their jobs, or maybeir

shut down their business, there's a lot of stress out there, and sending federal agents to urban cities is in many cases violating the constitution of folks, but in additi to that, i think they are adding to the stressful situation. host: a viewer from jamestown, new york message death this morning asking if student loan debt is part of the stimulus discussion. guest: ishould be part of the stimulus discussion. colleges are having a difficult time wrestling with how they are going to reopen. i think students that are saddled with a very lengthy, debt in many cases should be given some level of relief, yes. host: rosa is from atlanta, georgia. democrat line. we are short on time but go ahead. caller: i just wa liability as e

postal workers. , to companiesople not have any liability for the covid that they contracted out there? i believe very strongly that the company was negligent in providing the conditions that they need to provide for workers to be be liable, yes. absolutely. this is uncharted waters for manyf us, but the private sector should not be given a blank check and allowed to spend it whichever way they want without insuring customers. democrat from new york, he is a member of the small business community during us to talk about issues related to covid-19. before we let you go, how would

you rate the state of new york as far as cases are concerned of the pandemic? guest: we are doing better, much better. we had a couple of days with no deaths, that is a good sign. the number of hospitalizations continues to go down, the number of folks on ventilators continues to go down. in fact, the one number that has gone up is theumber of books that have been discharged -- folks that have been discharged from the hospital. we still have so much more to go. in the summer months, people are out in the streets, many of them are not wearing their masks. are are congregating, they not adhering to social distancing, and everyone should adhere tosin many ways, we are t in the middle of this. host: thank you again for your time this morning. guest: thank you so much for having me. on the house side, appropriations bill being

debated, the package that you can watch out for as far as activity in the house, also action going on in the senate on the defense c-span.org where bof those activities are. the house is just about to come in. speeches will take place in this first hour, starting just about now, ending at a period that we don't know. when they come back, we will take your calls on issues and in a house will come back again for businesses. right now we take you to the ã