mr. meadows: your words are manipulating it, i don't think he said they were manipulating. i have been personally involved in this so i will be glad to tell you. here is what we look at. it is not just the fda, it is others, as we look at the protocols and dr. holland was right to say -- dr. hahn was right to say we are not cutting corners. we have a china virus that came here, we have to deliver answers and the president is saying, why don't we have an answer today? >> so he does believe those in the fda are trying to delay approval for political purposes? mr. meadows: i believe there are people that do not see the same sense of urgency as he sees it as we start to look at it, they know that some kind of result today is good for the american

people hint he wants to make sure that they feel the same urgency. >> joe biden is prepared to shut down the country, to shut down the economy again. what joe biden said is he will listen to public health experts, he will listen to dr. fauci, he will listen to leaders from the nih and cds the, that is -- and the cdc, that is something donald trump has failed to do. donald trump is like a man lost on a highway and refuses to ask for directions. worse he has held quackery, he , has advocated for solutions like hydroxychloroquine, which the fda has said not only don't work but are harmful. if public health officials say that is the only way forward, he is willing to do it, he is willing to lead. donald trump failed to confront this pandemic. countries similar to ours at similar stages of development have gotten a handle on this

virus. the number of deaths, the impact on the economy is far less. joe biden is showing leadership and a willingness to trust science. >> postmaster general louis dejoy testified that no -- about changes in their impact on the upcoming elections. that's live monday. watch live coverage of the hearings monday on c-span2, on demand at c-span.org, or listen live with the free c-span radio app. next, catherine gale, founder of the institute for political organization argues that our current system lisa voter disenchantment and an unhealthy level of partisanship. after that, speeches by president lyndon johnson and

republican nominee barry goldwater at their party conventions. then president trump's announcement on fda emergency authorization to expand access to convalescent plaza treatment for coronavirus patients. ♪ susan: katherine gehl, in your new book, you write the american political system has become the cause of our decline in the barrier to address the problems it exists to solve. when you look at america today, what are you seeing?