free c-span radio app. ♪ convention will come to order. >> republicans held their convention this week where they met in charlotte to nominate president trump and vice president pence. eastern on0:00 a.m. pompeo,watch mike kellyanne conway, first lady melania trump, second lady karen pence, and acceptance speeches from vice president pence. >> i humbly accept your nomination to serve as vice president of the united states. [applause] >> and president donald trump. >> i accept your nomination for president of the united states. [applause]

ourif you missed any of coverage, watch anytime on /rnc.d at c-span.org joining us this morning is elie mystal. thoughtsgin with your on the president's speech last night. the thing that struck me most over the hour and 11 minutes, the longest acceptance speech ever where the lies -- were the lies. fact checkers and experts counted somewhere upwards of 22, 23 lies. i heard one as high as 125. there was a barrage of lying -- as high as 25. there was a barrage of lying.

when you stood back and looked at it and got out of the weeds of the things that he said that were demonstrably not true, or merely misleading, and you stepped back, what you saw was an hour's long violation of federal law. i know there -- that a lot of people do not care about the hatch act, the corruption by this president and his family, but you ivanka trump -- ivanka trump, presidential advisor, has no right to make a speech on federal property. it is just wrong. every official that was in the crowd, at that campaign event at the white house last night, was committing a federal violation. i know they will not enforce it against these people, but, -- come on. the use of taxpayer dollars to

fund a trump campaign event was offensive and it is going to get lost because there were 24 lies. but it was effective. host: what you think of the speech this past week on law and order? they believe that that message resonates and that it will work in november. guest: i was shocked that they did not at just their talking points at all to account for the fact that america was traumatized once again, seen video of an unarmed walkman shot seven times in the back, and the republicans acted like that did not happen. instead, the republicans went back into their pattern about help law and order was the real problem -- was where the real problem is, we have to help cops in the street.

what we need is cops that will not shoot people for no reason. the gulf and the divide in this country between people who do not have to fear their lives being taken away from the cops, and things like law and order and all these catchphrases are useful -- versus the people who are committed to coming up with some kind of real solution to problems of police violence and police brutality. it was notable to me that throughout four days and countless hours of speechmaking, the republicans did not offer one policy prescription that was meant to decrease police violence against black people. not one. there were things that they did offer, right? therewere proposals out for a national registry of bad apples to make sure that they are shuffled from department -- that they are not shuffled from department to department.

there were things that you could support and still call yourself a law and order conservative. none of the republicans over the past four days supported any of those policies. they just acted like what we needed was more cops shooting more people in more streets. i want to play for our viewers and have you respond. [video clip] >> i'm going to ask you, the american people, to look back at what they have done. this election is about your future and it is critical to paint a full picture of the records of donald trump and joe biden. joe biden said that if a black man did not vote for him, he was not truly black. joe biden said that black people are a monolithic community. it was joe biden that said that poor kids can be just as smart as white kids.

and while his words are one thing, his actions take it to a whole new level. a crimed the charge on bill that put african-americans behind bars. president trump's law fixed many of the disparities that biden created and made our system more just for all americans. joe biden also failed our nation's historically black colleges and diversities. once again, to clean up joe biden's mess, president trump signed into law historically 's as wellng for hbc as a bill to give them permanent funding for the first time ever. host: elie mystal, your response. guest: first of all, he did not

really count trump's record, he slammed joe biden's record. the one law that he is pointing to where he performed criminal criminal- reformed justice, that was cory booker's bill. the second thing that scott talked about, the funding for historically black colleges. that has nothing to do with it. it has nothing to do with addressing police brutality and violence in our streets. scott did not actually have a record to tout when he was talking about trump. does have things that are problematic -- people have complained about these issues that biden has had. he has listened to these

complaints and has said that he is going forward and addressing a different way to approach police violence and produce -- police brutality. kamala harris as a client to to addressa plan police violence and police brutality. the trump administration has no plan to address the violence committed against black bodies in the street. they have nothing for me. they have nothing to run on. they have nothing to promote. host: what is the biden-harris plan? guest: they are talking smartly about having accountability in terms of knowing the police record. knowing when there is a disciplinary complaint. if they have a pretty good plan. i would want some more here, but they have good ideas about

imposing federal -- use of force requirements. and thechokeholds aggressive procedures that we see in our streets. the federal government used to work with officials to work with ways to improve local policing. this was something that we had in our country for a long time. forward, that going and kamala harris has a fairly good plan in terms of police accountability in terms of setting up commissions to look into any aspect, anytime there is an officer involved shooting. i do not think people understand that when a cop shoots somebody, the person that investigates them is usually a friend of the cop. they work together. shouldvery least, we

have an independent authority looking into all instances when a cop guns somebody down. biden-harris is for that plan. host: let's go to calls. caffe supports the president. go ahead. about: i want to be fair all of this. i have been sick for 30 years. i died and came back. i had the democratic health care, the republican health care, and quite honestly, without president trump fixing everything, this is the first time ever i have been able to walk into a hospital or a dr.'s office and afforded and be able to afford to walk into the pharmacy and walk out. without him, i would not be able to live. host: what did he do that made that happen? caller: the health care changed.

when obama came in, i was excited. i said, ok, he will make it for pre-existing conditions. actually, it nearly killed me because there was a penalty that if you did not go with the health care, you had to pay a penalty. nothing was covered. office, allot into of a sudden i could afford the cost of medicine, the help came to afford the medicine. host: let me jump in. elie mystal, i know you do not cover health issues. you are a justice correspondent. but did you want to respond? guest: the thing that saved her was obamacare. the thing that helped her was obamacare. the thing that covered pre-existing conditions was obamacare. i can prove that to her if she can read a supreme court case.

are --across the country if she could simply unhook herself from fox news for just a little bit and read the actual, legal opinions being promulgated by the trump administration, she will see that obamacare is what protects her, despite having pre-existing conditions and the republicans are the ones who are trying to take that away. supporting joe, biden. caller: good morning. what i saw during this convention wasn't ordination -- was an ordination of king trump. what he said in his acceptance speech last night, we are not going to have the situation that we have going on right now. he has been president for almost four years. when he said that, he is proving

to us that he takes absolutely no responsibility for what's going on. if he hasn't done it in four years, why would we believe that he's going to do it in another four years? that is my question to everybody. host: elie mystal, go ahead. guest: what is interesting as i have never seen an incumbent resident run like he wasn't the president at the time. his campaign, his speech was basically, look at this carnage. i will fix it. you are the one in charge. this is the country you have brought us to. it is like mike pence in his speech. you will not be safe and joe biden's america. from a people have died virus in six months.

floored by-- i was how this administration -- it is not that they did not take response ability, they acted like they were not the ones in charge. he acted like right now, -- they acted like right now aoc is president. 's americap that we have been living in for the past four years. howard is supporting the president. good morning. the president of the united states, he is the one -- law and order brought back. people should be -- if there was

unemployment -- [indiscernible] i'm getting -- [indiscernible] thank you, ma'am. he is not. and again, what does he mean when he says putting law and order back? what he means on the ground is that he wants federal troops against american citizens to harass them, shoot them, and punish them for executing their right to protest. what he is trying to say is that he saw a picture on the news of like a cvs burning. blackure on the news of a guy being shot to death. protectaid, we have to

that cvs. that is what he is saying. that is what he means by law & order. policyad any plans, any that was meant to address the issue of police violence and brutality against black people, i would at least listen. he does not have a policy for that. he has a policy to protect autozone. host: we will go to st. louis, missouri. matthew, supporting the president. caller: yeah, i was wondering how you feel about the george floyd innocent -- incident and the latest one the other night. both of these guys were criminals. the one the other night, day were arresting him -- they were arresting him because they had warrants for his arrest for sexual issues with a minor. guest: can answer your question?

caller: the floyd incident. if you look at the toxicology report, he had enough alcohol to kill three men, his lung whenity was swelled up using i can't breathe when no one was touching him. that was why because of the drugs he was doing, his lung capacity was three times the weight of a normal man. ok, we're that point. -- we heard that point. guest: the things that you have been saying about george floyd is wrong. do you think that the person who you up the ame church, do think he committed a crime? caller: yes. anyone who does anything like that to a church -- that policew was it

were able to take that person to burger king after he shot up a church full of black people, but they could not apprehend jacob blake peacefully and all he was trying to do was walk away from the officers? how come jacob blake had to take seven bullets to the back while dylan ruth got a whopper? host: will go to i'm here. host: go ahead. caller: i would like to say how this mylan started was from president trump when he called out his native people on the george floyd protection protest. that is what started that. down, to destroy, to

make it look like the protesters did it, which anyone with any intelligence would know it was not the protesters who did it. it was the president. this is one of the largest problems that people in america do not see that mr. trump is trying to take over this country forever. if you can't see that, you really do have an intelligence problem. host: elie mystal, your thoughts. guest: i love the passion. i dislike trump as much as a reasonable person can, but i'm not willing to put the entire blame of police brutality and violence on black bodies on his doorstep. this started long before trump and will unfortunately be with us long after whatever trump child runs the dynasty.

bell in newas sean york who was shot multiple times the day before his wedding. some people's first protest was rodney king. cops, havee, white been beating and killing us for a long time. trump is the latest figurehead on top of an organization that refuses to do anything about it. i certainly think trump has given aid, comfort, voice, and solidarity with the very worst elements of our society, which has in itself inspired additional killings. can osha is a good example. the mass shooter in el paso was a good example. sometimes he contributed to the violence, but i won't say it's all his fault. this is america's fault and we need an american solution. one reason i am so passionate

and so angry with what i saw the republican national convention is i can't get an american solution to the problem if an entire political party pretends the problem does not exist. i can't move forward to protect myself and my children if the entire republican party acts like i'm crazy, it's not happening, and the things that i experience haven't actually happened. host: elie mystal, how do you obamapresident impacted the discussion and the issue when he served? fashionablenk it is on the hard left to blame obama. lots of people were shot and killed under obama. i think that does not give his administration enough credit. i think obama was aware of this problem. i think he and his administration tried to work the problem through the normal processes available at the time. one of the things you can say

about obama rightly or wrongly is that he was a for real institutionalist. he believed in institutions and the power people to change institutions, but that the institutions were good and should be protected. he went through institutional responses to police violence. he was about consent decree. he supported cory booker's first step act. he supported some of these aforms, but he was citizen-based guy who looked for citizen-based reforms. what is different from eight years ago is because of the camera phone, because so many more people can see that black people have not been lying to you all this time, because of the movement, ferguson and those theests, and how it was majority black people in those protests. you look at the george floyd

protest and you see a rainbow coalition that includes white allies and people of every ethnicity. the movement has grown bigger, stronger, people are more fed up and more willing to tear down institutions having seen the institutional response fail. tearing down about institutions. he believed in them. i disagree that obama did nothing, didn't try, or didn't care. he cared deeply and tried a lot. he tried everything one would have asked him to do in a situation where you still believed that an institutional response was possible. host: what are you watching for today for the march on washington that will be happening later this morning on the national mall? again, i am happy when the protests are a rainbow

coalition. i think that makes some movement stronger. to be honest, it is 69 days before the election and that's what i'm focused on. we need people to vote and understand it's a binary choice. that most of what trump said last night were lies. most of what trump said last night were mostly untruths, that he has no plans to address serious issues we have in our country, for people to vote like their life ends on it. that's where my head is at. host: tammy is undecided on who to vote for. why is that? caller: i was leaning towards trump before the virus, but i don't like is virus response. my question is for mr. mystal. what is your thought on the justice act proposed by tim scott? it had things that you thought you believed in and wanted and could be negotiated on an democrats could not negotiate on them. why?

guest: that's not true that the democrats would not negotiate. i thought tim scott's bill was underwhelming, but it was a starting point. that it's much more that i want, but it would be a legitimate starting point for the legislation. who controls the senate where tim scott works? republicans control that senate. mitch mcconnell controls that senate. they could pass a bill tomorrow if they wanted. mitch mcconnell could bring tim scott's to the floor tomorrow, and according to tim scott -- if you thought the democrats were the only ones standing in the way, tim scott does not need the democrats to pass his bill. nancy pelosi could pass a bill in the house, tim scott could bill in the senate, then they can negotiate the terms. that is how a bill becomes a law, how our civics is supposed to proceed. it does not proceed that way

because republicans will not allow government to operate and then lie about why it is not operating. if you think that tim scott's bill was a good idea, and you thought it was a good starting point for the discussion about police violence and brutality, please call mitch mcconnell and tell him to bring the bill to the floor. if you brought it to the floor tomorrow it would pass tomorrow. arkansas,y in supporting the president. caller: yes, i sure am. i'm going to stick hind trump all the way. i have not been into politics ever. timeed and stuff, but this i am standing up for trump. he is very forthright. i don't see him as a liar. i think he tells it like it is. he says what he thinks, he is very open-minded, and he listens

to the people. he is wanting to help people. he is trying to help the elderly and the low income, and he is congress oro buck nobody. we need more like him, that's what we are needing. somebody to stand up and not be afraid of nobody and to speak up like trump does. host: the house is about to come in. i want you to react to what you heard. him asmatty cannot view a liar, but he is a liar. for instance, mexico did not pay for the wall, he didn't build the wall, the wall is not effective because the wall has not been dealt. he said he built 300 miles and by best estimates he built five miles. that is one big lie that i happen to remember off the top of my head while matty was talking. host: elie mystal you write for

the nation that you are focusing on the campaign. quickly, how are you getting the message out? guest: i think the most important thing is to make sure people understand how to vote. a deadly pandemic, people are still scared, and voting rules are complicated. as a person with legal training they are complicated, and in different ways in each particular state. i'm trying to use my voice and platform to get people to be focused on voting, how they can make a plan for how they are going to vote now as opposed to waiting until the last minute. this election season, last-minute voting may not be counted. then we get into the weird areas. if you're making sure you are voting in, the middle of october java better chance of your vote being counted. host: you can find his w

announcer: you are watching your unfiltered view of government, created by america's cable television company as a public service and brought to you today by your television provider. sed, in the house of representatives, the george floyd policing and justice act. now, we need to pass that act in the senate. we need mitch mcconnell and the u.s. senate to meet under george floyd's policing and justice act, or we are going to meet you, senator, at the poll on november 3. we want our bill passed. [cheering and applause]