we'll take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter on president elect joe biden and vice president elect kamala harris. "washington journal" is next. ♪ ♪ host: good morning, this is "washington journal," november 8, 2020. in your first hour we will take your calls on joe biden getting becomeectoral votes to president-elect of the united states. yesterday they called for healing and the president-elect once again promised to be a president for all americans. for his part, president trump promised to engage in litigation

for what they called irregularities and fraud in the voting process. if you support president-elect biden and vice president harris, (202) 748-8001. if you support president trump, (202) 748-8000. if you support another candidate or perhaps did not vote, 202-628-02 05. twitter is available to you at c-span wj and you can post on our facebook page. was last night where president-elect joe biden appeared in delaware alongside his running mate, vice president-elect kamala harris, to give a speech on the way forward and what to expect in the days ahead. you can see the complete speech on c-span if you which,

c-span.org. here's a portion from the speech last night. [video clip] wanted thistset, i campaign to look like america. administration to look and act like that. for those of you who voted for president trump, i understand the disappointment tonight. i have lost a couple of times myself. but now, let's give each other a chance. [cheers] time to put away the rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again, and to make progress we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies. they are not our enemies. they are americans. they are americans. [cheers and applause] that toe tells us everything there is a season.

this is the time to heal in america. applause]d over,at this campaign is what is the will of the people. what is the mandate. i believe it is this. americans have called upon us to march to the forces of decency, the forces of fairness. the forces of science and of the forces of hope in the great battles of our time. the battle of control of the virus. the battle to build prosperity. the battle to secure your family's health care. the battle to achieve racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country. the battle to save our planet by getting climate under control.

battle to restore decency, defend democracy, and give everybody in this country a fair shot. that's all they are asking for, a fair shot. host: that was last night in delaware. the president-elect is expected to report tomorrow to key members of his task force. it says the task force will be led by three cochairs, the former sued -- former surgeon general, former food and drug administrator, and a doctor from yale diversity, amongst others, when it comes to the coronavirus task force. when it comes to what a future biden administration might look like, the associated press said a key member of his inner circle who was thought to be a front runner of chief of staff was wrong claim, who served as the ebola responses are in 2014, who

was recently appointed senator after biden became vice president in 2008. he is working closely with jeff sykes, who held various obama administration roles, johan abraham, advisor to the national economic council, and former white house communications director jen saki. highlighted as the president-elect makes a transition team. go to buildbackbetter.com, the website being promoted by the biden harris transition, where they said they could offer the information. the vice president elect, kamala harris, taking to the stage, talking about issues particularly around winning the election, the role of women, and the future. [video clip] a testament it is to joe's character that he has the

audacity to break one of the most substantial barriers that exist in our country and select a woman as his vice president. [cheers and applause] while i may be the first woman in this office, i will not be the last. [cheers and applause] every little girl that thisonight sees is a country of possibility. ,o the children of our country regardless of your gender, our country has sent you a clear message. dream with ambition. lead with conviction. see ourselves in a way that others may not, simply because

they have never seen it before. know that we will applaud you every step of the way. host: those events were from last night and you can still see them at c-span.org. for his part, president trump still not planning on offering a concession speech. the trump campaign putting out a statement yesterday in light of the news that you heard about, saying that "the simple fact is this election is far from over, joe biden has not been certified as the winner of any state, let alone highly contested states, where are campaign has validated legitimate legal challenges host: again, if you want to call

us this morning about vice president elect biden and his receiving of enough electoral college votes as of yesterday, .ou can do so at (202) 748-8001 if you supported others or did .ot vote, (202) 628-0205 our first call is from larry, savannah, georgia, supporter of joe biden. good morning. caller: i would just like for the trump administration to step bidenand allow the administration to get the transition team in. we have had this virus situation for too long. just be a grown-up about it. thanks. host: a supporter of president trump, columbia, south carolina, steve is next. furious, i have been

waiting for the riots from the republicans. democrats said that if they lost, they were going to burn america down. i guess we can just put that into the media disinformation pool. the last guy said something about transition. yeah, look what they did to trump during his transition. that was sweet. thanks, pedro. host: another supporter of president trump, linda, iowa, hello. good morning to linda in parkersburg, iowa. hello. eric.go to georgia, supporter of the president-elect. caller: yes, thank you, pedro. what this has shown about the united states is how racist it is, bigotry. these people that put up with trump. this country has been suffering under slavery and what did we

ever do? ,eople like you at other people able to be successful because of what black people went through under civil rights and different types of margins and things. people who came here from cuba, thought they were born in canada with socialized medicine. the: how do you expect caller: president-elect caller: to handle these issues? he said we are going to -- the president-elect to handle these issues? caller: he said he's going to deal with them. host: a little bit more about the transition. post,"om "the washington the president-elect's team has

been given government computers and office space in the herbert hoover building in washington, although most of the work is being done virtually because of the pandemic oft: again, there's more that in "the washington post" this morning. in michigan, randy, you are next. good morning, pedro. i would like to thank you and all the men and women it takes to bring us this great program.

you are doing a great service for the nation. i'm glad to see that on.sident-elect biden w with his speech he sounded like an american who had the american spirit who is willing to fight for the american dream for all of us and i hope he keeps that spirit for the whole four years, he's got a tough road to hoe -- row to hoe. host: what are the challenges he faces? caller: a divided government. i believe mr. biden can do that, he's always done it, that's just something he's known for. host: what do you mean he's always done it? caller: he's always been known for building coalitions. he's a guy that can go into a room full of people that don't like him and convince a couple that he's willing to work for them. that's what i believe anyhow, that's the feeling i get from the man.

misses harris, kamala harris, and if i mispronounced her rick name i apologize, i'm really proud of that. i have a daughter and she's just walking on cloud nine right now. thank you, let's get together and go to work, america. we can do it. host: jen, virginia, supporter of president trump, good morning. vote in that i did respect, though i consider myself an independent. i did vote for the policies under trump. however, i was very, very impressed by the speeches last night. as the previous caller noted, they were very american sounding. i think we have a lot of work to do, but in respect to having a multiracial family, kamala harris represented that very well.

voted for you say you the president's policies, what did you mean by that? caller: global policies depending the united states, standing up for the united states. in their campaign they made it seem that we would be gaining respect back. in some ways trump did some things a little bit harsh, but we did gain respect in the world . whether people like him or not. failure, buthe's a standing up for the american people he did that and i do believe that biden will do the same thing, stand up for all americans. it comes to the president himself, do you think he should offer a concession speech at this point? caller: i don't he's able to. i really don't. it will take some time. there's a call for him to speak, we all know that. it will take some time and i

think eventually he will. what i wanted biden to do last night was ask the people, if we are reaching for peace and unity in this country, he could have addressed those in front of the white house to lower their temperature. we do need to start with respect if we are going to move forward. host: we will hear from another supporter of the president in tyler, texas. good morning. know, the media seems to have totally let us down. we knew who was ahead when the voting was stopped, when we wait to find out who the president is for four years and then we stop the count and there is a massive lead by one party, and resume the count in the middle of the night, it looks

suspicious. are we going to believe a media that has been lying to us for four years on the impeachment, the russia collusion, and was on tapen biden if theyfr talking about don't fire the prosecutor, they don't get the billion dollar loan guarantee, and then getting the money from the mayor's wife in moscow, $3.5 million. not just, the media does elect the president. the state legislatures of every state are the last determinant of where the electoral votes go. host: do you expect anything different to come from the states? well, i called my

legislature and i talked to a bunch of lawyers on thursday at a party for an elected judge that i know and he is confident of all the fraud that has taken place. it's abominable. they tried to do this in 2016 and push the wrong buttons with hillary. that's why they were so upset they didn't win, they knew they were going to win. it's called that, the hammer scorecard program written by dennis thompson? .e was part of darpa that program, when they paused of the vote, when trump was wildly ahead and then everything flipped. that's what the litigation is about. we can't trust the media that has been lying to us for four years. host: ok, you made that point already. we will let you go there. when it comes to who will possibly take the seat of senator harris, now vice

president-elect harris, who represents california, politico has a story taking a look at the names possibly in contention, saying that it has become one of governor gavin newsom's guess decisions. many insiders insist that the governor wants to make a historic choice, making the secretary of state a leader contender. picked, he would become the first latino senator in the states history. the governor also has to contend with women's groups who have been -- pressuring him to fill the seat with another woman of color, putting karen bass in, high on that list. she was joe biden's, she was on the shortlist for vice president and said recently she is keeping her options open. also, representative barbara lee has been viewed as a likely leadings well, recently

in the university of southern california poll. you can find more of that story on the website of politico. gus in martins ferry, ohio. a supporter of the president-elect. go ahead. caller: i'm listening to all these trump supporters about illegal votes and fraud and everything. i'm thinking, well what is, you , is there a lot of trump supporters that filed for absentee ballots? are they going to throw those out, too? or just the biden absentee ballots that people voted for him and those are the ones that are illegal? the ones that voted for trump are legal? before, before it even started, trump got up there and called fraud. before it even started. we knew what he was doing,

right? he put up a postmaster general to slow everything down because he wanted those votes to sit there after the election day and then bring him in and call them illegal, call them fraud. this guy is a con man. anna, news go to castle, delaware, a supporter of president trump. that all can't believe the people that voted for joe , all the people that lost money into thousand eight when joe biden and barack obama was in there. i lost $880,000. my husband just died and left me some money to take care of the kids and myself and they took, underet the bank go because they loaned money to the

people that wouldn't pay the money back and i said i can't believe all the people that just forgot about it. you know? are they deliberate? they can't think from one day to the next what's going on? injob -- if joe biden gets there, we are ruined and that's permanent. the woman who is vice president, she is not worth adamma because she slept her way to the top with governor brown. part of the celebrations happening here in washington, d.c., particularly in what is known as the black lives matter concourse, you can see a lot of those celebrations going on in d.c. and several cities across the united states and internationally as well, the associated press picking up a story based out of india waking up to the news of the election of kamala harris as vice

president, overjoyed people in her indian grandfathers hometown, they set off firecrackers on sunday in a tiny village of 300 and 50 people, they were reading newspapers chatting about the victory before reading to a temple. a woman wrote in cap -- in colored powder outside her home come -- congratulations kamala harris, greetings america. that's just some of the news going on internationally. congratulations from many world leaders yesterday following what happened in pennsylvania with nevada following shown -- early after that. pittsburgh, pennsylvania, james is next. did not vote. how are you viewing these events? caller: god bless you. i'm a full full -- i'm a first time caller. my black friends matter to me. my black family matters to me. the black people i grew up with matter to me.

it's my opinion that 19 was a fake, duke, it's a political opinion. host: james, why didn't you vote? areer: put it this way, we going to go to civil war over this. there's no covid-19. political scamo like they did with the cold war and they were going to go to war with russia in green briar. ok.: supporter of president-elect biden, deborah, tennessee, go ahead. caller: good morning, pedro. host: go ahead. caller: i just want to ask the trump supporters, what happened to all the ballots that were actually run through the sorters but not delivered to the people like they was supposed to be?

are those the ballots that have been dropped off after election day? you know? he started railing about ballots before they even were started to be delivered. office jacked all that up. host: what did you think of the president-elect's victory yesterday? caller: i'm ecstatic. but he's got a lot of work to do. undoing things to make it hard for the new administration to come in and deliver on his promises. host: such as what? has puthe has, trump unnecessary burdens on the civil

servants that would be assisting developmenthe virus . the tax increases that he railed commercials latest are tax increases that were a 2017 tax code change. there are four tax increases that are scheduled to take place in the next five years. host: ok. deborah, clarksville, supporter of joe biden, talking about what lies ahead for the president-elect. margaret, missouri, supporter of president, good morning. .aller: good morning i hardly ever call in. i'm going to call into -- i'm

going to call in this morning. i'm speaking to those certain people that are black that, you know, i voted for trump. joe biden is talking about healing. let's not forget who caused the wound. obama and biden in their thenistration by spying on trump campaign. this man is a spy and he spied on the trump campaign. and he wants the presidency? they elected the wrong person. this person is the cause of all these wounds. what we went through, the russia investigation, who started that? biden. jennifer forget about [indiscernible] everybody, biden was on tv doing that to face and calling trump a racist. we are not going to forget this. thank you. host: margaret in missouri,

supporting her thoughts there. people who responded to the news yesterday of joe biden receiving enough electoral college votes to make himself eligible to become president of the united states, the story from the republicans specifically, mitch mcconnell declined on saturday to acknowledge the victory, instead pointing out to reporters a generic count all .he votes statement

wishes to thel president-elect from republicans by twitter. senator mitt romney, sending "ann and isaying sent our congratulations. we know them as people of goodwill and admirable character and pray that god blesses them in the days and years ahead." also a tweet coming from former horta governor and contender from the white house -- for the white house, jeb bush. "i have prayed for the president most of my adult life, now is the time to heal deep wounds, many are counting on you to lead the way." roger is next in california, supporter of joe biden. high. caller: -- hi.

caller: i've been waiting for a year to call in. first of all, we are all immigrants. i don't understand why people are saying that this is our country. we are all immigrants. we need to remember that. we need to have more love to keep the doors open. even the indians were immigrants. that meanwhat does for the president-elect? caller: that's a good question. , i like tont-elect the way he ran up to the stage last night. humanness, of down-to-earth. he jokes around a lot. i like kamala harris because she, when you're talking to her, she's got this girlish way about

her, she's really human. as opposed to donald trump, when he comes out, he walks like hitler's, kim jong-un, holding his arm up and he looks around at his people. you know? voted for them. i didn't send him money, i sent money to the down ballot people but i didn't spend money to joe biden. host: we will go to florida, next. one of the states closely watched in the whole process, eventually going to president trump his reelection efforts. ryan supported another candidate altogether. good morning. caller: good morning, sir. i was a republican until 2012 and i was part of that ron paul revolution. when i saw what they did with ron paul there, i swore off the party and started voting for my youngest son with nonverbal

autism, i fit -- i figured he would have less lysed to spew out. -- less lies to spew out. ask, who did may you vote for this year? caller: i filled in my son's name on the ticket. host: ok. caller: i would like to iterate a couple of little things here that i would like to make a comment on. trumphole state is country. the cuban community, the mexicans, the african americans, they were all behind trump. i don't even know how there were places that weren't. i don't thinkd, biden has the faculties to be president. i don't know how he will be able to deal with the military-industrial context, going into more work. for seven years, trump was the

only president that didn't invade a country. barack obama kept invading muslim nathan -- nations. because his dad had a guerrilla radio station. i know the democrats hold tight and never break from their party, but the fact of the matter is that with the fragrant -- flagrant fondling of children and kissing that biden does, how do you keep a straight face watching that stuff? host: ok. supporter of the president-elect, good morning. caller: thanks for taking my call. boy, i'm finally able to sleep again, thank you god for answering my prayers. i first want to thank the very wise and thoughtful black who very early recognize that we thisd a biden to lead country again. secondly, i would like to thank all the wonderful nonracist 1 --

nonracist white people who supported biden. we will forever be in your favor. we will forever be grateful to you. in regards to that missouri woman all in black? wow. i remember malcolm x saying one that a dangerous negro league one who loves white people. o is one who loves white people. i get it. ok.: ,"om "the sunday news journal it says "mr. president," and then turns to the home state of kamala harris. thee are just some of

headlines. many more across the united states. we have gone for about a half-hour taking your calls on the president-elect and vice president-elect. we will continue to do so. you can call us on the lines, (202) 748-8001 if you support president-elect biden. (202) 628-0205 if you supported another party or didn't vote, (202) 748-8002 if you support president trump. supporter of president trump, stephen is next, hello. caller: good to talk to you. it's been many months, finally got through. yeah, i voted for trump. some people just don't understand, you know, president trump, you know? these democrat leaders in the media mislead them all these years. we got the greatest economy i ever saw since i got out of high

school in 19 evan is evan. i can only wish these kids getting out of here could get these high-paying jobs. we have a gigantic google data server farm and it's paying big time paychex with thousands of people working there on 20 something acres, 3 billion dollar expansion going on for the last four years. it's unbelievable. and we don't have that much covid cases. couple hundred. hardly anybody knows anybody that has it. maybe six or seven people we heard maybe had died. nobody knows who they are. it's just the greatest economy. racists? racist what? over 60, maybe you saw some. i have black friends. they voted for obama the first time but then they voted for trump because they thought it was the better than hillary choice. supporter ofnext,

another candidate, alabama, hello. caller: i want to make something very clear, president-elect biden made a really big public deal out of his supposed membership in the roman catholic church. we all saw him attending very histrionic lee, very much those catholic masses and holy eucharist. something needs to be made clear about the roman catholics. or inden is caller rhino, the catholic circles we call him catholic in name only. many archbishops and priests have declared that he cannot receive the holy eucharist in their archdiocese because he is supporting abortion. that is the killing of prenatal human life. now, he's the second, if you want to call him a catholic, only the second catholic elected in the history of america as

president. john f. kennedy for the record, for the record, was ardently unambiguously shamelessly proud to be pro-life and that needs to be made very, very clear. this is an outrage and this will not be taken. this is a scandal to all christians and catholics around the world. if he attempts to attend catholic mass in washington, which i presume he's going to continue to do -- host: ok. the line set aside to support others is also the line you called. you didn't vote in this last election. that's edward's case in new jersey. caller: good morning. host: you are on, go ahead. caller: pedro, actually i did vote, i just didn't cast a vote for the republicans or democrats. host: you participated in the voting process? caller: yes.

host: i'm going to stop you there, we set aside this line for purposes of letting people choose the best line that represents them. that line, supporting leather -- , if you wanthers to call in, calling on the correct line. how you do205 is that. we will go to max in maryland. supporter of joe biden. high. caller: thank you for -- hi. caller: thank you for having me on. i supported joe biden and kamala harris. that speech last night, i think they did great. that's how the president is supposed to sound. and let me tell you this, the media got it all wrong. i think the media did a great job over the last four years. but they got it wrong.

up toepublicans showed of the trump because actions that democrats took to push for ballots. think about it. all the democrats were building ballots. if they were standing in line to voting in this election was as usual, do you know how many people would have been disenfranchised by the republicans themselves? if more republicans were to vote , millions of democrats wouldn't stand in the line. on that part they got it wrong. we should be telling the democrats thank you for pushing mail-in ballots.

what the election reveals is that the fair-minded americans in this country, black, white, whatever race you are, fair-minded americans in this country are the majority in this country. some republicans voted with democrats. that is mac, in maryland. the caller, a couple back, brought up coronavirus cases. oflet you know, cases as friday, more than 100 and 32,000 new cases across -- more than 132,000 new cases. for thembers increasing fourth straight day. to let you know the status of what's going on with the virus, which the president-elect talked about last night, in naming certain members to a coronavirus task force, more of that

reportedly to be revealed tomorrow. the current president, donald trump, from illinois, this is jim. caller: can you hear me? host: you are on, go ahead. trump: i supported donald in both elections. the reason is i'm a 23 year military veteran. under the obama and biden, the va hospital was a terrible mess. i had too many friends that died because of that. trump revamped the v.a. and made it better and now my brothers and sisters can feel safe going to the va hospital. trump being a racist? let's look at joe biden. his friend was annexed kkk -- an member and he voted

against segregating schools because he didn't want the kids to be in a segregated cesspool and he called black people, super black men, super predators . host: why do you think the president didn't win yesterday, as of yesterday? caller: well, he called it. malin fraud. he did something no other president has done. be americansoud to again. host: do you think his efforts will change the end result? caller: i hope so. all the joe biden cares about is shipping jobs to china and raising taxes.

host: you saw that part of the statement saying that as of tomorrow they will continue legal efforts when it comes to the election. want to keep people talking about that, yesterday it was rudy giuliani saying just that, talking about the lawsuits. here's a bit from that yesterday. [video clip] >> the first part is a situation that is extremely troubling. first of all, for the state of the commonwealth of pennsylvania and then for a number of other states. be broughtits will starting on monday. the first time it was discovered was here in pennsylvania just a couple of days ago. the people you see behind me are just a few of about i would say 50 to 60 poll watchers who will all testify that they were

released. that they were uniformly torived of their right inspect any single part of the mail-in ballots. as you know from the beginning, the mail-in ballots were a source of some degree of skepticism, if not a lot of skepticism, innately prone to fraud. host: part of the story of the last day or so, one thing to watch out for this week, the supreme court is set to hear a case considering the future of the affordable care act. amy goldstein writing about it this morning, saying that if the supreme court decided merely that the insurance requirement is no longer valid, the practical effect would be slim because no one is being fined anymore. the justices, if they struck down the whole law, it would far transcend any steps the trump

administration took to weaken the law through executive moves. if the court struck down the full law, congress would face intense pressure to restore at least parts of it, especially .ow that's just one of the things to watch out for going on this week , in light of the president-elect's victory from yesterday. let's hear from dorothy and virginia. a supporter of the president-elect. good morning. dorothy and virginia, good morning. -- in virginia, good morning. caller: good morning. hello, vice president joe and vice president kamala. i remember, you were always an nevertanding man and you

made a difference between the white or black. you were just the same at all times. i told you when i wrote to you that you were born to win and i knew you was going to win because i was praying hard for you. i knew you was going to make a change, you and kamala. i hope you all will continue to make the change, we need it. last day of old, this summer. i will depend on you to take care of me for the rest of my life. i know what trump was going to do, my little check was going to turn out to be nothing. i thank you every day of my life that you set me up for good insurance and it will be taken from me. host: another supporter of joe biden, new york, hello. caller: yes. i'm from new york state.

host: you're on, go ahead. caller: english is my third language, i will try to simplify it. harris andof kamala joe biden was amazing, sir. joe biden says, what he says, i'm experiencing in my life right now in america, being an immigrant for 15 years. he says america means possibly this. yes, that's true. says, the power of example. experience in the life of an immigrant. father, they kept the

faith. but his mother says spread the faith. he also says i will not be, kamala harris says i will not be the last, a great thing. and joe says they are not our enemies. they are americans. that was support for joe biden from syracuse, new york. seattle, washington, jamie, hello. caller: well, good morning. first of all, coming from seattle, washington and on the west coast, you know in the years back we were last to be counted for votes. we got in the habit of not caring so much because the east coast determined the presidency.

right now being a trump education i find the on civics is waking up america. waking up people to the fact that why is one party more votes?ted in legal on theshould be united that keeps us faithful and trusting of our government, and that's the election. so, how i look at this, if we lose our faith in the fbi and we lose our faith in the elections, we certainly have lost faith in , it is the media pot responsibility to educate americans for things they do not know. one thing is, the mail out

ballots, you need, you, personally, need to have a show specifically on what is an absentee ballot. host: we have had those shows repeatedly up until the point of the election and you can go back to our website to look through that. go ahead, finish a thought. caller: it's very important to understand. they talk about the five states years.ail-in ballots for host: ok. that's jamie and seattle, washington there. for all of you who want to learn about, even in this postelection, want to go back to our website, c-span.org, that's the repository of everything we have taken in on the election process. not only the candidates involved. we have talked plenty about mail-in voting and those issues. you can find all of that on our website. the caller was from the west

coast. another west coaster going back theongress, "the voters of 50th congressional district stamp to the darrell issa's return ticket to capitol hill democrat.efeated the the associated press and others made the projection on saturday evening, with him getting 53.7% of the vote. he previously declared victory in a statement friday night saying "whether you supported me in this election or not i will work tirelessly for all that call the 50th district their home, the state of california that i love so much and for our great country." seriouse opponent for a -- spirited campaign cone -- can see more of that campaign."

you can see more of that on the "washington examiner" website. david says he didn't vote. go ahead. caller: yeah, i don't vote because my vote won't matter. it's a sad day for the people of america. you can tell there was something on the up and up here with this election, with these mail-in ballots. i think it definitely needs to be looked into. i hope they expose the fraud that was committed. because there was. i have talked to people, i had somebody who had mail-in ballots mailed to them, to people who were dead in their family. people that voted for trump, , saying on their votes it was received and accepted and

then they go back and check it later and it says that it was rejected. didn't voteid you because your vote doesn't matter, why do you hold that belief? caller: because the system is corrupt, the system is corrupt. beenadical left-wing has doing this for a long time now. it's just, it's just getting worse. ballots, theyin should not be part of the election like this. i understand we are in an epidemic, but they can go all out and rally in the streets and everything like this to make you go out and vote. host: ok. ryan, who says he supported another candidate, go ahead. caller: pedro, think you so much for taking my call. yes, i did vote for somebody else.

i have been voting for that some of the else for decades now, his name is ralph nader. probably the only man i have ever known to be honest who ran for president of the united states. if you could just hold on one second -- host: did you write it in? caller: yes, i wrote it in as i always do. host: why didn't you support how? caller: [laughter] this goes out to all of those holier than thou people who talk about the sanctity of life, but yet they can be counted on to support war in an instant. to me they sound like people who believe the sanctity of life ends as soon as a child is born, then you can start bombing them. host: let me ask you again, why didn't you over howie hawkins? caller: i only voted for ralph nader because i know that man to be honest and that's all i would want from a leader, honesty. next.ok, kirk is

he didn't vote, so he says. go ahead. caller: good morning, can you hear me? host: you're on, go ahead. caller: i did not vote for the peopleason that most shouldn't. it's an exercise in futility. the system is corrupt. everyone knew that mail-in voting was going to be the way they were going to defraud this president. born and-year-old raised in new york city black man but more accurately, israelite. it is prophesied, this country has fallen apart for the world in the exposure of the corruption that stinks to high heaven. it's naked and it's obvious. host: so you didn't vote in this election or don't vote generally? caller: i voted twice in my life. once for david dinkins and once for barack obama. i was disappointed each time.

years i voted for two black men and each one of them disappointed me. i have never liked donald trump until he ran for president. when he ran for president i knew he would be a good president. i had watched them for years declare that this country is being sold out by politicians and the world is taking advantage of us and one day he's going to run and fix it. when he met milani on phil donahue, he said he was going to make her the first lady. the press corps at the nerd festival clowned trump as if it was ridiculous that an international businessman couldn't shepherd the country, that's basically a corporation anyway. host: ok. mary grace. green grove springs, supporter of president biden. caller: thank you for taking my

call. i voted for joe biden, like he said. we need to save the soul of america. unfortunately, trump has destroyed america. he's a criminal with the coronavirus. almost 200 and 50,000 people have died, 9 million cases of covid. i can't even get a test if i want to get tested again. i got tested once by the health department. i called up again and i can't get tested. i voted for biden because he has a soul. we need to heal. trump supporters, i want to reach out the olive branch. we need to come together. trump has not done that. he has divided us. host: you said you voted for the vice president elect because you wanted to save the soul of

america. what does that mean when it comes to policy? beler: policy on covid-19 to implemented the way it should be so that people won't die. secondly, we need a stimulus package, the heroes act. people are dying. you don't hear how all these health care professionals and front-line workers are dying. it's hush-hush. when i looked it up we are up to like 1700 health-care workers that have died nationwide. and i'm sure that's underreported also. so, we need the heroes act. a, on the bill have membersnon we of the house of representatives supported by q non--- qanon. judy, onethis is from more call, missouri, supporter of president trump. caller: yes, i'm a supporter of

president trump and i thought he was a wasn't a full -- was a wonderful president. he kept us out of a lot of wars, he got us out of wars. he got the jobs out of china and back into america. you are going to see a turnaround like you have never seen before. you know? . started out as a democrat i turned republican when trump come into office. i felt like he was a very honest man and he did what he said he was going to do. you are going to go right back to the same old stuff that it .as with obama there wasn't any employment. host: why do you think the president didn't win, this time around? caller: you know, i think it was very corrupt.

i don't like the system and the way its run. i don't people should be allowed to mail in ballots or drop boxes or anything else unless they are ill. who can notarize that should be taken into their room and let them vote if they are truly disabled. if you are not military or some kind of disability or illness, i think you should be made to go to the polls. last call forthe this hour. if you did not have a chance to join the conversation this time around we have two more times over the course of our program to give you an opportunity to comment on the electoral college votes awarded to the president elect joe biden into the vice president elect kamala harris.

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director andrew mccabe testifies on the crossfire hurricane investigation that looks at 2016an interference in the election. a stream live or on-demand on c-span.org or listen on the c-span radio app. >> washington journal continues. host: our first guest of the morning is paul waldman, senior writer for the american prospect. guest: good morning. host: what do you think of the -- newlyted device minted president joe biden? is an extraordinary time in our nations history. it was amazing seeing a spontaneous celebrations all across the country.

it is not a -- not because people are excited about joe biden. liberal america was waiting for a repudiation of donald trump and that is what is making them celebrate. it is hard to imagine now a period where we won't have to get up every morning and ask ourselves what crazy thing the president tweeted. i like to think it will be a of calm and ordinariness in our politics. trueis probably not either. we are headed towards a period of great unrest and dissension. my fear is many who supported trump will take this election and say it proves that politics no longer works for them. he has been telling them for a couple years that any outcome that does not result in him winning is proof that the system

is corrupt, it was rigged, it alone -- aand that lot of them will say after this election "we lost and we will try to win the time." politics doesy " not work, we need to do something else." on the fringes, some may decide violence is the answer. a very dangerous situation. it is good to hear joe biden come out into say " i will be a president for all americans. we need to unify." barack obama said he would try to unify the country, george bush said it before him, bill clinton said it before him. that is the kind of thing we want to hear from our leaders even if it is not possible for

the president to bring the country together. it is that kind of thing the thinkent -- the kind of the president should say. at the very least he should not be actively making it worse. if nothing else, it is good to hear the person soon to be president say that is what he will try to do. host: what is the tallest turtle for joe biden? the tallest hurdle for joe biden? guest: the senate. naived to have this belief that if you have a president from one party and a congress from another party that the result will be moderation and compromise but we are in an incredibly polarized time and that does not produce compromise, it produces gridlock. it is in the interest of the republican party the biden

presidency fail. well.mcconnell knows this it is the strategy he used during the obama presidency and it was effective. mitch mcconnell is brilliant in opposition. this is assuming the democrats do not take both of those senate seat in georgia, which there will be runoffs in january, which they could, but if they do not, mcconnell and other republicans will look at the situation and to say " we can make the biden presidency a failure by not allowing any legislation of significance." all of those things biden ran on -- if you went to his website he had policy papers from here to sunday -- all those things he said he would do, bringing a public option to health care, raising the minimum wage, if

republicans take the senate, you can lock them away in a file cabinet because they will not matter. where doesestion is mcconnell into the republicans take it from there. they could ramp up opposition in a more significant way. at the end of the obama administration, mcconnell shut down all confirmation of judges. he could say he is just going to decide that not only will they not fill any supreme court seats that come open during joe biden's tenure, but they will not fill any judgeships at all. crazy, hethat is would never go that far," but the republicans have taught us they are willing to go pretty far. in 2016 before the election,

there were republicans in the senate suggesting they will not allow hillary clinton to fill four years.eats for i could very definitely see some republicans in the senate saying youat if we just tell him can only appoint republican judges?" you could even extend that to the cabinet. we have already seen some signs from lindsey graham for instance that he would be willing to vote on biden's cabinet officials if they were not crazy liberal. you could get into long drawn conversation over his cabinet officials. at the president has to fill about 4000 positions in the executive branch. need senatef those

confirmation. they could shut down that process. the president could use the vacancies act to fill a lot of those appointments. there are some rules you have to follow, but he could move aggressively on that front if he gets that kind of stonewall, but , let democrats take both of those seats in the georgia senate races, we could be in for of gridlock. host: if you want to ask him 1uestions, it is (202) 748-8000 if you support joe biden. you can text us at (202) 748-8004.

i was someone who supported bernie sanders, what am i looking for from the president-elect today? tot: biden took great pains bring those people into the party. he formed these taskforces with bernie sanders supporters. they put out a large document that try to bring those more progressive ideas into the party. at this point, there is that old expression that personnel is is policy. personnel democrats are watching to see who biden appoints to positions. in the treasury department, fill it with people from wall street, but just of the democrats on wall street. or is he going to look for people who have a view on

economic matters that does not come from wall street? who is going to be secretary of health and human services? that will be an important position because even if the supreme court does not strike down the affordable care act, there will not be the public option joe biden wanted it, but the department of hhs will have to do a lot of things to try to enhance the number of people who have health coverage. is that going to be someone who wants to move aggressively on that front? positionsa lot of biden will have to fill. the executive orders that come out in the early days, we are already getting indications that the biden administration wants to move quickly to undo a lot of the executive orders president trump signed. thosen flip back a lot of things pretty easily but if he does not have a senate in

democratic hands, how aggressively is biden going to move forward on some of those progressive goals using the tools at his disposal within the executive branch? the progressives during the campaign found a lot of reason to be as happy as possible with joe biden. if you look around at the progressive vented democratic parties, they worked their tails off to get joe biden elected. i'm not sure, had the nominee been bernie sanders that the centrists would have worked as hard, but they did it. there have been years in the past where people on the left said "i am going to vote third party because this is the lesser evils."you heard no one on the left saying that now. keepingd a good job of

them in the fold, but now they will be trying to make sure that he is being as progressive as possible. one thing also about this -- when out of the things many of them realized is biden is pretty malleable and susceptible to pressure, but in a good way. he is not somebody like sanders who has believed the same 10 things for his entire career. he positions himself at the center of the democratic party. he is a guy who wants to make deals. he does not say "if i do not get these specific things i will take my ball and go home." to pressure,pen willing to make a compromise and if you are a progressive, that can be good or be bad. able tons you might be exercise influence to try to

pull him left. that theyd feel successfully did that in the primaries. moreoe biden of 2020 is progressive than hillary clinton barackr years ago or obama was. office,when obama took that was something obama himself said. version of joe biden, that was the centerpiece of his health care plan. host: let's hear from some colors. this is joy. she is a supporter of the president elect. [indiscernible] host: joy, i am going to have to stop you there. your connection -- if you could try to move around and see if you can get a better connection.

up until that point, let's get georgia,in brunswick, a supporter of joe biden. good morning. caller: how important is georgia going to be for the upcoming georgia 2021 election? host: thank you. guest: the entire political world is going to go down there. you will have 10 to 15 people a day knocking on your door trying to get you to vote one way or another. up fornate seats are races. if the democrats win them both, the senate will be 50-50. if republicans win one or both of them, then they have control of the senate. to sayot an exaggeration that the fate of joe biden's presidency rests on what happens in georgia in january.

every ad on tv will be about these senate races. there will be a huge mobilization effort on the ground. that itself will be something extraordinary like we have never seen before. get ready because you are going to be under siege. if you love politics, it will be good and if you do not, it may be something of a nightmare. host: from mechanicsville, new york, a supporter of president trump. paul, i read your articles and i like them. i have a statement to make. i voted for trump. i really think of biden's presidency for the next four years is going to be under a cloud. i think there are permanent divisions in the country. no other president in modern

history had to face the obstacles that donald trump had to face. was corrosive. i have never seen anything like it in my life. twitter, the new york times, even the washington post, constant bashing of trump. .e was not being treated fairly you also have big tech as i mentioned. --t recently the polls come came out. voter suppression is something we need to be concerned about. 17 point lead in wisconsin and he won by a small margin there, biden. one of the things that is most concerning, at least among people i spoke to, was the president-elect's relationship relationship to

the chinese. he will need to take a strong posture regarding our relationship with china. host: john from new york. ahead.dman, go guest: we have a situation that is going to continue where we have some nonoverlapping media universes where people live. if you are somebody in the conservative media universe ended lives there every day, you would have heard that -- and lives there every day, you would have heard that biden is the one that is corrupt. thatacts just do not bear out. we never got the full picture of donald trump's conflict of conflicts of interest. showed somerns

rather extraordinary things. there was an effort on the part of trump himself signed they republicans to say that joe biden was corrupt and his son did all kinds of terrible things. there is a reason it never worked. there just was not enough there there. you can try to sort of jenna bus scandal out of whole cloth and up a scandal out of whole cloth, but then you have to give up the goods. if you do not have any facts that will actually show something people need to be concerned about, in the end it will not go somewhere. republicans tried so hard to come up with a scandal that would be on the order of iran contra or watergate or some of the big scandals of the past. they would find something that went wrong in then agency

somewhere that was not within 100 miles of the white house and then hold hearings after hearings. there were eight congressional investigations of the benghazi, which was a terrible thing and four people died, but it was not a scandal of malfeasance on the part of barack obama or the administration. americanse 245,000 who have died of coronavirus into there have been no congressional investigations of been noand there have congressional investigations of that. i hope there will be. one thing we will see over the next four years is within that conservative media universe there will be all kinds of stories that come up where somebody in the department of agriculture did not collate the report correctly and if republicans retain control of the senate there will be senate

investigations. they will try to turn it into a scandal that it will be about as effective as the efforts the republican senate made in creating a scandal out of whatever was going on with hunter biden in ukraine. next call, eleanor in new jersey, a supporter of the president elect. biden and hisort administration. after following presidents in my 88 years from franklin delano supportt and eleanor, i all the presidents in the democratic party except for a few republicans that i truly loved and honor. if you watch the body language of every president we have ever had, look into their eyes when isy speak, you can tell who truthful and who is deceitful. we all bleed red in this country

, black white or blue. i am totally in favor of every first responder as a democratic person. we need to look after each other in this country. we need to make concessions and we have to love their neighbors as ourselves. thank you for listening and i hope america is listening. host: that is eleanor. guest: those are wonderful sentiments. we can pre-much predict how joe biden is going to act as president. he will try to get republicans to join with him, but there is a fundamental substantive problem with that. we have this myth that if everyone would just put aside their petty partisanship bend get in the room and rolled up

their sleeves they would be able partisanship and roll uphe same room and their sleeves they would be able to solve all the problems, but they have fundamentally different ways of solving our problems. these are not really bridge bull gaps. it is not about can we just e gaps.-- bridgeabl it is not about to we just decide. one of the big questions about how divisive things are -- you can have a situation where everyone is not vilifying their theirs and trying to get particular policy vision enacted by in a way that is civil and polite, but one of the big

questions will be what happens within the republican? trump may be gone but there -- trumpism will still persist. watch the people who would like to run for president four years from now. if you look at people like ted cruz, tom cotton, josh hawley, what haley, keep an eye on kind of tone they take on. there will be many in the republican party who want to distance themselves from trump. he was particularly unpopular. they will see their path to per -- their path to success perhaps in a revision to a normal republican. there will be people who look at the party as it is now and to say trumpism is still very inerful and i need to mimic a stylistic away what he did,

which means i need to bombastic and insult people and vilify democrats and that is what will get me support from that great bass that loved donald trump and is still there. -- that great base that loved donald trump and is still there. there will be push and pull within the democrat -- within the republican party to determine which direction they will go. waldman, our next hugo gurdon. trump lost ground

among his deplorable's, but agree with republican support in every other ethnic group." what do you think of that assessment? guest: it is quite remarkable. it will take us a while to unpack what happened. we have all seen some of the weaknesses in polling, and it will be difficult to tease out in future poles that we take, exactly what happened -- future , exactly whattake happened. this is one of the strangest stories of this election. one of the interesting things you saw is that it seems at some point trump campaign may have realized this was happening. if you notice during the course of this campaign, especially in the last couple of months, trump did not talk about immigration at all. was very different than he was

four years ago. he was not out there talking about immigrant criminals that would rape your daughters and kill your family. that rhetoric disappeared. it was as if they realized that in places like miami-dade county in florida they were picking up support from latino subgroups and they did not want to endanger it. he had a racist appeal to other -- on other grounds. he spent a lot of time talking about how he had to protect the suburbs from low income people. it was rhetoric right out of the 1960's, but that seemed to fail. he seems to have a misunderstanding of what the suburbs are in america, that it thet like how it was in 1950's. the people there, their biggest concern is not keeping people out of their communities.

on immigration, that rhetoric disappeared. one of the things it reveals is that the latino population is diverse and contains different subcommunities that look at this different. places joe biden overwhelmingly one latinos. there was a big backlash -- overwhelmingly won latinos. there was a big backlash against trump's policy. it may have helped him win georgia, but then you had a situation in florida where trump did well with cuban-american communities. it was a much more complicated picture and it will take us a while to figure out exactly what happened, but that was certainly without question one of the most fascinating things that happened this year. host: let's hear from robert. you are on with paul waldman.

go ahead. caller: yes her. i just wanted to -- yes sir. i just want to tell the president ii like to dedicate h. dire straits. so far away from me. thank you. host: ok. mr. waldman, any response to that? , i don't know what song people might want to dedicate to the president. host: let me ask you this. you talked about results of this election. we sell republican seats gain in the house. how much of that is a concern to you? what does that mean as far as readership elections in nancy pelosi's tenure as house speaker? >> she said before she wanted to serve one more term.

she could have one more shot to do the thing she does best which is passing legislation. i don't know if anyone is going to bother to challenge her. if they do, they will lose. her hold on the democratic caucus and the house of representatives is absolutely secure. i don't think there's any concern about that. in terms of the losses the democrats suffered, we have seen some sniping between the progressives and the centrist and the party. some of the centrist members are saying it's because they were saddled with these things the progressive members said so that the fact that the representative from seattle, she calls herself a socialist and therefore that would be a problem for a democratic member of congress running an election 3000 miles away. the trouble with that is that if you look at who lost among the democrats in the house this year , almost all of them are people you absolutely would have

expected to lose. you take a member like kendra horn in oklahoma, it looks like she's going to lose. by 14strict, trump won points in 2016 and probably will win by a similar amount this year. you see over again people who were swept in and the democratic wave in 2018 managed to win in republican districts. 2020, it's a presidential year. turnout among republicans and democrats. if you are representing a heavily republican district, you can moderate your positions, you can try to convince your constituents that you are a centrist, but it's going to be really hard for you to win that election. happens at the presidential level and the house level are almost exactly the same.

there's a really tight correlation. be plenty of democrats who represented republican districts and republicans who represented democratic districts. every single race is nationalized now. it's not surprising at all. democrats came in hoping there would be this gigantic repudiation of donald trump and it would sweep down the ballot and they would pick up seats and hold onto the seats they gained in 2018 in those republican districts. it just wasn't going to happen. we can see it was absolutely predictable that a lot of those democrats who won the surprising victories, there was not going to be anyway they were going to hold on and a high turnout presidential year election. host: before we let you go, what do you think you are going to write?

people in my business have been asking ourselves, if donald trump goes, how are we going to have enough to say every day? he was nothing if not a fountain of news. i think the subject i'm going to turn my attention to is this transition in the new biden administration. what are they going to be able to do, where are they going to move ideologically. what are the issues that are going to be most important to them because those are the things that will ultimately affect our lives. i think that's the most important subject for the next year or two. host: you can see paul waldman's work at the american prospect. for thisman joining us conversation. we thank you for your time. we will continue talking about the president-elect joe biden and kamala harris and getting your thoughts on the days ahead particularly in the days of

yesterday. if you want to give us a call , (202) 748-8001 if you support the president-elect. you can always text us. you can see joe biden, the president-elect speech from last night in full at our website at c-span.org. here's a portion from last night. >> the people of this nation have spoken. that delivered us a clear victory. a convincing victory. a victory for we the people. we won with the most votes ever cast on the presidential ticket in the history of the nation. 74 million.

i must admit it surprised me. tonight we are seeing all over this nation all cities in all parts of the country. in need across the world. an outpouring of joy, hope, renewed faith and tomorrow ring a better day. the trust andd by confidence you placed in me. president who a seeks not to divide but unify. or doesn't see red states blue states, only sees the united states. with all my heart with the confidence of the whole people to win the confidence of all of you. that is what america i believe is about. people and that's what our administration will be all about.

restore this office to the soul of america. to rebuild the backbone of this nation. the middle class. and to make america respected around the world again. and to unite us here at home. lifetimehonor of my that so many millions of americans have voted for that vision. work of making that vision is real. it's the task of our time. can see that full speech not only featuring the president-elect but also the vice president-elect at c-span.org. the washington post and new york times in their profile of the president-elect of what he faces in the future when it comes to that idea of seeking common ground, they write this.

-- in 2008 mr. biden struggled to stand out in a crowded field that included barack obama and hillary clinton. afterpped out after iowa referring to mr. obama as articulate and bright and clean. time we had trouble in the sent toration, who got handle it. threeped secure republican votes. including a major gun-control effort after school shooting in newton, connecticut. .- newtown, connecticut . we will take your calls before our next guest. robert from covington, kentucky. supporter of president trump. you're up first.

go ahead. hello c-span. anyone would straighten out the false narrative that 100 30 million people would lose their health care if the aca is struck down when in reality the only way people would lose their health care is if congress defunded the program and there is no way that they would do it and of course trump would veto that. the other thing is that in michigan, they found out that a software program that was installed by dominion systems change six thousand votes from trump to biden. 65 of the 83 counties, then they found out that it was used in literally every swing state including arizona, pennsylvania and georgia.

and many of the swing states. host: ok. let's go to maggie. overland out, florida. also a supporter of the president. caller: good morning. i think mr. biden is a very shrewd old man, but old plays in there. strokes that he had two is why he keeps making these mistakes. and that worries me deeply. our current president seems to be in excellent health and seems to be the most patriotic man i have ever experienced in that white house. and i'm grateful for his leadership and i'm grateful that he's been our president for four years. and i'm very worried about mr. biden's health in the upcoming years.

host: tyrone in harlem, new york. caller: the reporter said something about mitch mcconnell stopping everything that joe biden is trying to accomplish and i hope that all americans realize that's more detrimental to us that it is to mitch mcconnell or biden. both of them are going to be all right. agenda don't get the passed. the american people are the ones who are going to suffer. we need to come together and realize that like the caller said old men and men that have mental problems and all that, when the agendas they try to get past don't get past, it affects more of us than it affects them. host: a supporter of joe biden from compton, california. go ahead.

to talk abouted the shift of black men voting for donald trump. i believe they made that shift because a lot of black men do not believe that women should be leaders and they have a problem based on their so-called church relationships that women should not lead, be leaders here in america. that's why they did not show up for hillary clinton then they shifted over to donald trump. so i'm just calling to brothers on this. support our sisters today. they want to blame it on misinterpretation of the bible. bible inat the christianity, it calls for equality. that how did you come to conclusion? caller: i talked to them. i live with them could i come from the streets. a lot of them have problems with women leading. and another one, not just trump

supporters. asked --my brothers except these conspiracies. them, do theyk believe man walked on the moon. i have had my discussion in my own family. they believe in martians and aliens. they believe that the world is still flat and then they call themselves believers in the bible. host: in madison, alabama. supporter of president trump. we'll go to jeffrey. caller: i'm also african-american and i'm a christian. we christians support president trump. president trump is a man of god. on him. of god is and jesus christ is the one who is fighting his battle. president trump's supporters, we

would not be out in the streets. our battle is against the democrats who killed all of the babies in the womb. that's why we support president trump. because the constitution says everyone has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. those kids in the mother's womb have the right to life. hand do you not think the of god extends to the president-elect? caller: no. the hand of the devil is on the vice president biden. president trump has not lost this election right now. december 14 will be the final answer. host: the president-elect transition team sending out their very first tweet as far as

the biden harris presidential transition. strongere will rise than we worked before and it also has a video. finally as together one america stronger than we were before. daye will act on the first of my presidency to get covid under control. act to reward work, not wealth in this country. restore our faith in democracy and our faith in one another. we will once more become one nation, under god, indivisible. a nation united. a nation healed. host: again, that is the biden

harris transition team sending out their very first tweet. you can see that on the military.com website, a future of what the military holds under the president-elect. the withdrawal of u.s. troops from germany, they transgender ban, the diversion of construction funds to build a wall on the mexican border. biden will have the authority to reverse a string of controversial military and national security policies put in place by president trump's executive orders. associated press and major outlets projected that the president or president-elect, although the results must be certified and is expected to face legal challenges from the trump campaign. our line for those who support others.

caller: thank you for taking my call. shout out to c-span for the dozens of years i watched you guys, a bastian of objectivity. i thank you for that. i just want to say that i voted for jo jorgensen, the libertarian candidate for president. ofs goes to the question african-american support for biden.nd lack of it for there were african-american gentleman in back of me and i could hear the conversation. they were saying to the, so you ain't voting for biden. -- he's aone said racist mofo. i am black, but i ain't

voting for biden. which is a reference to biden saying in that interview, if you don't support me, you ain't lack. this young man was saying i am black and i still ain't voting for biden. he also said i ain't voting for trump neither. he was talking about the local congressman. host: why did you vote for jo jorgensen? the -- partly because of i couldn't bring myself to vote for trump. for a variety of reasons. the democrats have kind of left me in terms of their woke culture, all the cancel culture going on. the woke politics. the holier than thou. the being able to say as biden said which i think is a racist thing, you ain't black. if a white man said, if you

don't like hip-hop music, you ain't black. host: ok. that's joe. we were waiting to see if the president would respond off of his twitter feed to the events of the last day or so. here is a series of tweets from the president's account starting with, we should look at the votes. we should look at these allegations. we are seeing a number of affidavits that there has been voter fraud. we have a history in this country of election problems. have an order by the supreme court justice to compel them to separate ballots -- required the intervention of justice alito. of ballots.ge group if there is a problem about what concerns -- me is we had over 100 million mail-in ballots like cities in -- itelphia and detroit

and then it has jonathan turley. i don't know if he's directly quoting. sharon from ohio, supporter of joe biden. good morning. caller: i'm a republican, but i voted for joe biden. worked the polls for several years. i have not been able to the last two years. every ballot has something that -- there's the office that has a number that matches that ballot. on thellot is recorded

either laptop over the book that you write it in. or wherever it is. that ballot number is written so there's three checks. double checks, triple checks. being a people worker, i'm not allowed to look at their ballots. they take it through the machine. they didn't fill in a spot or something, there's two people, a republican and democratic go up to that machine to help that person out of why that machine didn't accept it. if they want to fill out the whole ballot, that's their right. they can push the button and say i want the machine to accept it.

that's sharon giving her experience of poll watching. johnny in north carolina. supporter of president trump. hello? caller: hello? this is chris in texas. host: go ahead. caller: i supported trump and the reason i supported him is he gave me a good tax break. he helped the va hospital. that's why people voted for trump, not because they want to racism and all this stuff going on in this country. i wish you would have asked paul waldman who he supported in the election. i also wish you would have asked him, would biden have won without mail out votes. host: ok. this is austin, texas. carlos.

a of the president-elect. caller: good morning. as talking about votes and this and that, obviously we expected republican turnout on election day. or forople for better worse are either paranoid or afraid of the covid-19 virus. as a veteran, i take that to heart. i'm a democrat but also a combat veteran. there's 253 thousand mail out votes from veterans. 165 of those were from people overseas. we do need mail out votes. received byose were october 22. it wasn't a big gap that was left out. i'm a hispanic man by the way. as far as african-american women, don't look now. bassld love to see karen

get appointed to that seed. i would like to see stacey redemption.urt as a progressive, i would like to see nina turner. i don't want her to just go away. ast: let's hear from supporter of president trump in illinois. joe biden says he wants to be president for the whole united states. he wants to gain the trust of all americans, but not one time while they was counting them votes did he come out and say let these people see the envelopes. with got nothing to hide here. that tells everybody that they are hiding something by not coming out and saying it. peoplene of the supporters heard from last night

kamala harris addressing the nation about the campaign. >> for making this victory possible, to the poll workers who have worked tirelessly to make sure every vote is counted. our nation owes you a debt of gratitude. you have protected the integrity of our democracy. people who make up our beautiful country, thank you for turning out in record numbers to make your voices heard. and i know times have been challenging. especially the last several months. grief, sorrow and pain. the worries and the struggles. what we have also witnessed your

courage. your resilience. and the generosity of your spirit. years, you marched and organized for equality and justice, for our lives and our planet. and then you voted. and you delivered a clear message. unity,se hope and decency, science. and yes, truth. you chose joe biden as the next president of the united states of america. host: the new york times this morning and there write up about

the president's part in all of this, michael share writing that it was unclear whether mr. trump would follow tradition and invite mr. bite into the white house for a symbolic meeting like the one he had in his own transition four years ago. it was also transition for the departing president to attend the inauguration of his successor. esther trump has ignored many of the norms of the office. -- mr. trump has ignored many of the norms of the office. would be a gesture strikingly presidentracter for inflamed passion. a voter in tennessee who did not vote. good morning. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to make a few comments. i'm very data centric.

it did not follow the typical pattern. along with that some of the transparency issues we have had centers, i guess just an overview for the american people, the media does not have the authority to anoint or coordinate a president-elect. and that elect status cannot be aren until those votes ratified by the state. host: you said you didn't vote. why is that? timer: i didn't make the necessary to do it. it didn't work out for me. had i voted as a libertarian, i would have voted for trump. host: keith is from madison, wisconsin.

caller: good morning. i have been listening to some of your right wing callers over the past several weeks now. a lot of them say they weren't going to vote for biden because he was a communist. i'm really looking forward to the flag raising ceremony over the white house. i expect the flag to be read with a hammer and sickle now if you believe what they were saying. these people are just completely nuts. host: why did you support the president-elect? trump, because he's not that's why. i don't believe he's going to do anything that is going to really deliver -- he's going to deliver us right into the hands of another fascist like trump. host: why do you say that?

caller: because he is trying to create some kind of class solidarity. we need independent working-class political movement who putsountry workers first to make sure everybody has health care and everybody has a place to live and everybody doesn't go hungry. that is what we need. is keith in wisconsin talking about his assessment of the current -- the aftermath of the presidential election. we thank you, keith, and all of participated. we continue our conversation about what is going on these days with hugo gordon, editor in chief of the ""washington examiner." he will join us next. ♪ >> american history tv on c-span3, exploring the people and events that tell the american story every weekend area coming up at 4 p.m. eastern

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live or on-demand at c-span.org, or listen on the free c-span radio app. >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us, hugo gordon of the "washington examiner." he serves as editor in chief. what do you think about yesterday's news? guest: the president-elect is probably biden. have the shall not only does he have 4 million votes more than, the incumbent he also seems to have those ises in key states which necessary for president trump to win if he was to hold on to that. look, he is the apparent winner and there will be a legal process played out. president trump is obviously planning to challenge in various ways, in various courts, starting tomorrow. it has already started. that will have to play out. that is his right, but i don't

they give a make any difference. i think we will see joe biden inaugurated in january. host: if that is the case, what do you think that means for mr. biden, not so much for his supporters but for those who supported president trump in this process? guest: it means they will have took get used to to having a democrat in the white house. i hope joe biden will try and unite the country. it suddenly seems to be what he says he will do. he campaigned as a uniter, at least to some extent, and very much emphasized that yesterday in what was rather a good speech. we'll have to see whether he out, when its that comes to policy and also the structure of his administration, but he actually lives by that. one of the things we would be at the "washington examiner" saying, i will be writing the morning, ismorrow

that if he wants to take the historical opportunity to heal what has been an extremely divided country and divisive presidency under president trump , he needs to make sure he realizes what this election really showed. was this election showed was that voters wanted to reject president trump, they were fed up for tired of him, but there was no blue wave. it looked pretty clear that the republicans will hold the senate, and they have increased their seats in the house. that means -- it almost certainly means the voters said they don't want president trump to continue in office, but it also means they don't want all the left-wing policies and the constitutional vandalism that the left of the democratic party were promising. if joe biden really wants to unite the country, he will make sure he constructs his government, his administration along the lines of that move the

country back towards the center. it is bound to be center-left, but if it, is extreme left he will not be a uniter. host: as we are watching the president-elect, your thoughts on the vice president-elect and what we should be watching for imminent few years. guest: joe biden is on the seasonality guy, considerably older than any president has been even after they have terms, so there has always been a question about whether joe biden has the mental capacity to be president. he certainly looked on good form last night, but he has looked on less good form in other occasions. aboutestions have arisen whether or not his vice president would be a more important -- in a more important than most last president's have been. in the past vice presidents have been a most marginal. kamala harris is not only in the

position of being vice president to a president who will be much older than any president has been before, she is also much more left wing that he is, one of the most left-wing senators in the senate, and people will be watching to see a she has a strong influence on joe biden, or whether or not she continues to be in the background they were that most of us for this does the way most vice president's have been. host: our previous guest talked about like tug-of-war that might happen between moderates and progressives, who clearly supported him this time around. what do you think about back-and-forth? guest: that is bound to be the case. some of your callers and also some of the more permanent people in the last few days on the left have said there needs to be some radical change. chuck schumer talked about having 100 days like the first 100 days under fdr, of radical

change. the message oft the selection. there will be a tussle, it'd better be one that joe biden is prepared to be aggressive in and to make sure that he does not get pulled to the left. he ran in the primary as a centrist. bernies why he beat sanders and why he beat me others who were to the left of him in the primary. than once he got the nomination, he moved sharply to the left, he brought bernie sanders, a socialist, into discussions about policy. he accepted a great many of these things that the left wants. he was open to the idea of ending the filibuster in the senate. he embraced something close to the green new deal, which would be absolutely ruinous, then in the final weeks of the election,

particularly after he came out of his home in delaware and started to campaign, he campaigned more as a uniter and again more as a centrist. there will be a tussle. the left will try to pull him towards all sorts of policy that they threaten. the end of the electoral college, packing the senate, raising taxes, which is almost certainly something that the president-elect will do. so there is going to be a fight over how left-wing this presidency, this new administration is, and how much it is prepared to reach out and try and bring trump supporters, who clearly there are 70 million or more, into the fold and unite the country again. 202-748-8000 if you support president-elect

2-748-8003 if you would like to text this morning. why do you think the president lost? guest: i think the president lost largely through his own fortune because of his demeanor. i think a lot of people found him profoundly unpresidential. even though the "washington examiner" endorsed him for reelection, we have never failed to acknowledge the fact that he can be -- he has been almost he oftenmetimes and does not behave in a way that we would like a president to behave. on the other hand, he has adopted policies which i think were widely popular. i think he has been successful for example in relations with

middle east. i think a lot of people approved of the way that he dropped president obama's kind of anding deal with iran actually supported or real ally in the middle east, which is israel, and all the arab nations back ted that. the people supported the tax cut and deregulation. one of the things that showed in this election was people realized that the policies of the current president were in many ways successful, they just did not want four more years of the division. why did he lose? he could have won if he had been more presidential. one of the things that was remarkable about the late stages of the selection or the contrast between the first debate and the second. in the first debate, president trump was repellent. he was constantly interrupting. he was rude. he looked his worst.

he of his figure advice to drop that and behaved a great deal better in the second debate. i think if he had debated in the first debate the way he did in the second, where he looked assured and confident and strong, he might well now be celebrating victory rather than trying to prevent defeat. host: we have calls lined up for you. our first call is from mary in chattanooga, tennessee, supporter of the president-elect. you are on with hugo gordon of the "washington examiner." he is their editor-in-chief. go ahead. caller: each person has their own opinion, and the fact that he can come on tv and state that president trump would have won again if it was not for his attitude, is not true. a lot of people did not like his policies. during his debate, they asked deregulation, and they asked him about all the poor people that live in these

communities that have these for water systems that need factories, and i don't think he they were making money he did not care about them dying sick.ting deregulation and a good for the poor or the working-class people. so there were a lot of things wrong with president trump. we will live with their and let our guest respond to that. guest: the caller is right, everyone is entitled to their opinion. one of the things i would point out, the caller suggested somehow president trump was bad for poor people. for the first time in many years, the wages of people at the bottom of the scale were rising faster than the incomes of the people at the top of the scale. minority unemployment fell to record lows. there were be that

parts of president trump's policies that were unattractive to people at the bottom of the economic pile, but it is certainly in the case that they were attracted in some ways, and i think it was largely his economic policies, with rising black employment, rising an latino employment, record levels of those which helps to increase his proportion and latino votes above what previous republicans have managed. the last several weeks of the campaign were extremely telling in that it was perfectly clear that president trump was fighting for, black votes fighting for hispanic votes, and the biden campaign tried very hard to try and limit that success, because, obviously,

democratic candidates are not elected unless they have an anonymous advantage in minority votes, and that was why there was such a fight. the president's performance overall nationally, i think it was 18% of black men voting for of, and doubled proportion from 4% up to 8% of black women, and higher proportions among thatos, i think suggests contrary to what the caller suggested, the president's policies were recognizes actually benefiting people who were in the lower income groups, and that would include a lot of minorities. host: a supporter of president trump from kentucky. hi. caller: first of all, i just want to tell you that i am 73 years old, and i have voted in every presidential election since i was 21, which you had to be 21 when i got to vote. and i am brokenhearted.

i feel like that we have a corrupt congress, we have a corrupt fbi, we have a corrupt .a . , the most important day of anybody in this country, our election day, has been corrupted, and i want to know how you think joe biden can bring unity to this country when the democrats have done nothing for the last four years except "deplorable"ike me "racist" and any other file name that can come out of nancy pelosi or chuck schumer's mouth. guest: the point the caller makes is an extremely good one. when one talks about divisiveness, one has to recognize that divisions are required to sides. you don't divide just on one side -- divisions or require two

sides. you don't divide just on one side. the president has been divisive. but he has been called and his supporters have been called vile things by people on the left. "deplorables" was used by hillary clinton in the campaign in 2016. and, indeed snobbery which is directed by people at the left against president trump's supporters, and that will make it considerably harder for joe biden, assuming he is sworn in as president, to unite the country. there is a lot of resentment about the way things have gone in the last four years. it is also, in my opinion, true that even though there were plenty of valid criticisms of president trump, there were ones. of invalid

the caller talked about the corrupt fbi and the corrupt ci subjectedesident was to a concocted conspiracy theory or narrative about collusion , that was an investigation that found that to be untrue. i think this hobbled his administration. the failures of the administration such as they were were partly president trump's, and a very much partly the opposition. so it is going to be hard to unite the country which is why i say it is extremely important if president biden actually means it that he wants to unite the country, that he resists pressure from his left and governs from the center, because that is clearly the message of the election that we have just been through. host: mr. gordon, much is being made about the upcoming runoff elections in georgia.

what does history tell us about runoff elections, and does that apply this time around? guest: you are right that the generate five runoffs in georgia where there are two seats up for grabs -- january 5 runoff's in georgia where there are two seats up for grabs, running against strong challenges, i suspect and is certainly hope that two republican senators are reelected there. looks as though the senators in alaska and north carolina, republicans will be returned, so at the very worst, if the georgia races are lost by the republicans, it will be a 50/50 split and vice president kamala harris, assuming she is vice president, will be the deciding vote the re.

but i suspect that at least one of the republicans, david perdue, will be returned. 50%, but washan several points ahead of his challenger. i think we are going to end up with a republican senate led by majority leader mitch mcconnell, and that is just something which joe biden is going to have to work with, which is a very good thing. it's a very good thing that he is going to have to work with republicans, who are stronger on capitol hill, probably after all this process goes through tht han they were before the election. host: supporter of pres. biden, stephen, good morning. caller: yes, my name is david. host: go ahead, you are on. caller: i have a different take on the use of the word left and right and radical. i think there is a false

screening of progressive and populist issues as being radical. if you look back at our history, when fdr wanted to have social the peopleedicare, on the right saying, it is communist, it is socialist. -- social security and medicare are the most successful government programs we have. the administration was very successful. it is big money interests that are a of progressive change because it means more of them paying their fair share of taxes. the same thing is happening now, the issues they are calling radical, from the radical left are like climate change is real. a majority of americans believe climate change is real. a majority of americans want all.h care for a majority of americans believe billionaires should pay their fair share of taxes. in majority of americans want

clean air and water. a majority of americans want big money out of politics. this so-called radical agenda of the left is actually mainstream according to the polls. delivered framing is designed behind-the-scenes by big-money interests to scare the american voter. thank you. thank you. guest:

which has been heading towards us or we have been heading towards it for decades now. the fact that we have not yet head-on doeslem not mean to say that it isn't debtmply financing the that is accumulated and paying for these programs that are regarded as nondiscretionary. there needs to be reform of those programs. otherwise, there will be no money for the things the voters actually want. it will be spent funding those programs. us.: hugo gurdon joining i just cannot believe

that biden said unity. love. for the previous caller about social security, there is no social security. people have to wake up. the money is gone. the government is taking money out of your paycheck. if i were retired after 10 years, i would never find one penny back. we have to be realistic, thank .ou guest: the caller has a good point particularly about social security. people talk about the lockbox, but if you look in the lockbox to finance social security, it iou's.t filled with

if the system isn't reformed, it will run out of money. there have been proposals to , for example, to make the retirement age somewhat later in people's lives. when social security was introduced, i believe the average american left to the age of 63 or 64, and social security began at 65. it was not for the vast numbers of people who now lives beyond 65. i think the average age of americans, they live up to the age of 83, 84 men and 86 for women. men, and 86 for women. to financeer meant

every american for 20 years after they finished work. and it is unaffordable in the situation that it is now. i think there was a lot of unpleasant rhetoric in the election. calleden repeatedly president trump a racist, which is one of the most unpleasant epithets one can throw, one of the most unpleasant accusations that you can throw at somebody. some people would say that is deserved, some would say it is not, but i don't think it will make it easier, and it is going to make it harder for joe biden is he is president to unify the country. the sorts of accusations and insults make it a lot more difficult. host: charles is next, in oklahoma city a line for those who supported other candidates. good morning. caller: good morning, pedro. i just wanted to call in and say that i am really sad that biden was elected, because it is just

so obvious how weak he is and how he will not be able to stand up to other people because, you can just see it in him. he would not have been elected if it hadn't been -- he didn't pick the best person for the job. he said, i am going to pick a woman of color, which shows how weak he is. it would have never won the election without that. host: let me ask, who did you support in this election? caller: i choose not to say, i believe that is a private thing. host: did you support a third-party candidate or one of the two major candidates? caller: i chose one of the major candidates on the ticket. host: ok. mr. garden, you can respond. what has he brought to the table? guest: joe biden certainly did say he was going to choose a woman, and he was going to choose a black woman, a woman of

kamala harris is one of the least successful of the candidates in the primary. i actually thought when the whole thing started that she had one of the best chances of any of the candidates partly because of these identity categories that she fed. i thought she would be -- categories that she fit. ti thought she would be very successful. but she campaigned actively poorly even though she got a big launch. -- she wased picked not for her political acumen but because she checked all the boxes. she is a left winger, and i think that she and other left-wingers may well pull joe biden to the left. that will be probably his principal challenge once he is inaugurated. even before he is inaugurated.

he has to set up his cabinet. he has to appoint people to very senior positions, and i think if he wants to take the historic opportunity which will make him somebody who is remembered with , inction by the country that he has unify the country to some extent by the end of his presidency, he will push back against all of those extremists on the left. he will resist the far-left policies. he will install people who are centrist in his cabinet. and he will govern in the way the voters of the united states made plain that they want in this past election. host: from hamburg, pennsylvania, supporter of the president-elect. caller: good morning. --joejust calling to biden has a lot of time spent with other lawmakers.

he knows how to make deals. he knows what he is talking about when he is talking about whole trumpke the thing has been a public relations thing. the real danger right now is people once the american the credibility of our entire democratic system. that is built on this information. the potential for anybody tampering with an election, 120 million people went out and voted, it would make any difference in this election is preposterous. the united states election system is very safe. there are several steps and processes to go through. i looked at the newspaper, my

local county republican, they were asked how they responded. never have i seen an article that attacked an incoming president like that. there andill leave it let our guest respond. guest: respond first to the suggestion, which i agree with, that joe biden knows how to make deals. he has had in a normatively long -- in -- 40 years or more washington. he knows the senate. he knows about dealmaking. that is a very good thing congress, is time for and i think voters have indicated this, it is time for

people in congress not to treat legislative disagreement for an opportunity for chest thumping and making political points for the next election, but to try to legislate, compromise, and give ground on each side. perhaps there is an opportunity there. as for election fraud, which i think the caller was also referring to and dismissing, what i would say about it is this -- there is election fraud, there are plenty of documented cases of it, but it is not sufficient to tip the entire country. hass a small thing and it had an effect historically, in particular races that were very close. it is not something that is moved hundreds of thousands of votes. extremethat people make

and mutually exclusive claims about it. it is not true that election fraud is nothing and has been debunked. it has made a difference in particular races. but also it is not something that is so sweeping that it will put a president in office when he has not won the election. i think president trump is entitled to make legal challenges, those legal challenges will be hurt, they will be adjudicated. i think in january, joe biden is likely to be inaugurated as president. host: this is hugo gurdon of the "washington examiner." he serves as their editor-in-chief. thank you for your time. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will finish the last half-hour of this program taking your calls about joe biden and kamala harris.

(202) 748-8000 if you support the president elect. support8-8002 if you president trump. 5 if you did not vote or voted for another candidate. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. here is a portion of the speech from the president elect last night. [video clip] pres.-elect biden: i said at the outset, i want this campaign to look like america. we have done that. i want administration to look like that. for all of those of you who voted for president trump, i understand the disappointment tonight. i have lost a couple times myself. now, let's give each other a chance. [applause] away the harshut rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again, and to make

progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies. they are not our enemies, they are americans. they are americans. [applause] us toble tells everything, there is a season, a time to build, and a time to heal. this is a time to heal in america. [applause] now that this campaign is over, what is the role of people? what is our mandate? i believe it is this -- america has called upon us to marshal the forces of decency, the forces of fairness, to marshal the forces of science and hope in the great battles of our time. the battle to control the virus, the battle to build prosperity,

the battle to secure your family's health care, secure racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country. [applause] in the battle to save our planet by getting climate under control. [applause] decency,e to restore give everyone in this country a fair shot. that is all they are asking for -- a fair shot. host: again, you can see the full speech not only from the president elect but the vice president elect, as well. you can go to c-span.org for that. we will take calls up until 10:00. phoenix, arizona. victoria, she said she did not vote. caller: good morning. thank you for having me. i am currently living in phoenix, arizona. i am a california resident. aam 47 years old and i have

15-year-old daughter and i am a former city council candidate in the city of lancaster. the democrats have been working on this for over 25 years. it would really be sad if mr. .iden does pass away it is really pathetic that all this time, she is the highest in decriminalization and arrests, back-and-forth, left and right, it does not make sense. host: tell me why you did not vote. caller: i did not vote because i was disenfranchised in 2010. i was a former city council candidate. the democrats endorsed me. believe, i was never a

citizen of lancaster city. anas a citizen of unincorporated area. there are a lot of people out there in this country that get disenfranchised every day. we do not talk about the democratic party, the republican party, the independent. host: ok, that is victoria and arizona. we will go to missouri for a supporter of the president elect. why i votedreason for joe biden, joe biden will get stuff done in the white house. the reason why the virus is not going away is because the virus -- the virus -- the reason why it won't go away is because kamala harris said back in

august that barack obama and joe obamaback then -- barack was in the white house back then. council inl security china, had an emergency plan in place and that emergency plan in peoplesotects american lives. host: the president again between the out from his twitter account, this time quoting the former speaker of the house, newt gingrich. here is what he is reach waiting -- we believe these people are thieves. the big-city machines are corrupt. in britainllster wrote this was clearly a stolen election. mattered, they stole

what they had to steal. that was a quote from newt gingrich on the president's twitter account. for those who did not vote, phoenix, arizona, the torah, hello. i think we already took that call. let's go to chad in pennsylvania, is supporter of president trump. caller: good morning morning, everyone. the reason why i supported president trump is because his policies and everything he has done for the country. we can go on and on about how it was a race thing and everything else, but if you look at the overall facts as far as the peace, unemployment low before the pandemic. all of this stuff plays out. joe biden, kamala harris, they have a history of locking up black americans. if you look everything up, you can see it, the facts are out

there. host: what was the key accomplishment of president trump? caller: i think there were a couple of them. as far as peace with israel and making us a exporter, not an importer. unemployment was at a low for black americans, hispanic americans. think we were going in the right direction. now, i think we are backtracking harris.ing biden and i think the polls show the election, everything, i am hoping the supreme court comes up with a fair judgment and hopefully turns this around so we can go back the right direction. host: chad in pennsylvania.

pennsylvania was one of those states closely watched. yesterday, there are electoral votes plus nevada bringing joe biden from the vice president of the united states formally to the president elect of the united states. we are taking calls up to the end to show what you are thinking and what the candidates were saying -- or at least now the elected ones. this is kamala harris from last night, a portion of her speech. [video clip] v.p.-elect harris: what a testament it is to joe's character that he has the -- thatto break a barrier exists in our country to select a woman as his vice president. [applause] honking]s be the first woman in this office, i will not be

the last. [applause] every little girl watching tonight sees that this is a country of possibilities. and to the children of our country, regardless of your gender, our country has sent you a clear message -- dream with conviction,ad with and see your selves in a way that others may not, simply because they have never seen it before. youknow we will applaud every step of the way. host: we showed you this a little bit yesterday from after the results. black lives matter plaza in washington, d.c., people already starting to gather for another day of responses to the election

of joe biden from yesterday. we will show you a little bit of that throughout the morning. charles,e, new jersey, is supporter of president trump. hi. caller: thank you for giving me a chance to talk. first thing i want to say is congratulations to ms. harris and mr. biden on being elected, if that is the case. president trump, as far as i am concerned, what happened back in 2000 with al gore, i think this is important that the president does fight for -- if he really believes that some of those states did go to him, he should him,lly -- i expected being the president and everything in the cello i voted

for-- and a fellow i voted -- to do something and see if the states did go to him. host: the hill website is reporting the republicans drop a lawsuit in arizona over sharpie marked ballots. county's board of supervisors and other county officials alleging that sharpies were given to voters and damaged the ballots. the arizona democratic committee got involved in the case, according to "the washington post," my office has been putting out information for months and all we do to secure security and fairness. if you have not been paying attention, that is on you. do not show up if you do not like the results and scream "fraud" with no evidence.

good morning, you are next. caller: good morning. that iwanted to say voted for biden because i voted for change. from what i have seen, this country is divided. biden, to me, he struggled, he knows what it is like to struggle. he is not filthy rich. he was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth, unlike donald trump. donald trump has no idea what it to decide whether or not to pay your electric bill, your water bill, your car insurance or even your car note. he has no idea what it is like to walk in a middle-class shoes.

he does not know what the cost of a gallon of milk is. how much i have to spend on groceries compared to what i have to spend on my medication. host: what changes are you looking for from the vice president elect? economy.ne, i need the i have heard a lot of people say the economy was good up until the pandemic. well, not in my neighborhood. i never saw it, and i am still looking for it. rural area, i see a lot of people struggling, trying to figure out what to do. losing homes, losing cars. nebraska, omaha,

supporter of joe biden, as well. hello. caller: hello, how are you? host: i am fine. go ahead. caller: i changed my party affiliation to independent. the democrats are coming out so to the left with socialism, everything else, and my concern on the right -- i debated because nebraska is usually a republican state -- is, i just felt that trump, he did great things -- there were some really good things trump did. they can talk about the bad, he did some good things. mouth,all, it was his twitter, it was dividing this nation. somebody has to -- we have to quit being so far left and right. we have to come together. we have one nation and it is

precious. if we do not come together, we are going to lose this. host: ok. caller: i think in the future, people need to work together. that is my solution. let's talk to each other. host: that is mary nebraska. let's hear from leslie in texas, a supporter of president trump. caller: thank you, c-span, for being the only station i can watch on any of this. you head-on, it is ironic, that is my message, as well. i supported trump, not ashamed of it. he did amazing things under pressure of media. i work in journalism, i do not think national media has been fair for a long time. when trump got elected, it was not just a message to democrats, it was a message to the establishment -- when you change, someone who will come in and cut through the junk.

his mouth got him in trouble, it some divisive this, i think the divisiveness is already there. until we want to protect the constitution and the wait was established, we will have division. marxism's one of great ways to succeed is to divide and conquer. is that going to happen in the united states? not to that degree, but it worries me greatly the path you're heading down toward a state that has to interfere in our lives. host: just a few more minutes left. we will show you some tape from yesterday. rudy giuliani appearing with others in pennsylvania, talking about some of the legal efforts. it was during this press conference, that you can see in

total on c-span.org, that he found out the news about joe biden. rudy: they don't decide the election. who wasn't called by? oh my goodness. the networks! wow! all the networks?!?! we have to forget about the law! judges don't count! all the networks! all the networks thought biden was going to win by 10%. what happened? don't be ridiculous. networks do not get to decide elections. courts do. set aside courts elections when they are illegal. in this particular case, i do not know if there is enough evidence to set aside the entire election. maybe in pennsylvania.

however, there is certainly enough evidence to disqualify a certain number of ballots, the ballots that were not properly inspected should be thrown out. that number of ballots should be taken out of the account -- that could affect the election. host: one of the voices weighing in, lindsey graham, who just won reelection, saying he would investigate all credible allegations of voting regularities and misconduct after receiving a sworn affidavit from a pennsylvania postal worker that officials devised a plan. the remarks from the senator came less than two hours after it was officially projected joe biden and kamala harris would be the winners in the race for the white house. from charlotte, north carolina, a supporter of joe biden. caller: good morning, pedro. good morning, c-span. i have a quick three points and please let me finish.

what i have been hearing the last few days, the narrative is being changed. it is going to the point where -- reason why the democrats it was so far to the left. it is nonsense. the reason why the republicans did have the numbers they had is the people who they have inside of their party. the american people need to vote, if- whatever you you vote republican, that does not mean that because you are republican the people who supported this president -- those people were not part of the particle process. they were not voting for trump to be a president, they were voting for trump to be a dictator, a bully. they wanted trump to be there mouthpiece for a bunch of nonsense.

real -- thefrom the republican party needs to see who they have inside their party. host: i apologize because we only have a few minutes left. seattle, washington, is supporter of president trump. caller: i just want to say i do not understand why people cannot see there is a possibility there was voter fraud. for four years, we have learned we cannot trust the other side after putting our president through all of the things he has been through -- ukraine, the impeachment. at least let us look. why could a computer glitch not have happened that caused all of the votes to go to biden. i think it is possible. if russia could interfere with our election, why could our computer systems not do it? host: do you think it could make a measurable difference? caller: i think it could.

what if there was a glitch and all of the states that run the same software came up with more biden supporters than trump? i think there needs to be an audit. host: let's go to william in connecticut, is supporter of joe biden. caller: i have a couple of comments i want to make. one is that this whole thing about joe biden -- joe biden has been a very fair man and he has said to anyone who will listen that he is interested in uniting the country. talking with the republicans, working with them to work things out so this country can move forward. there are a couple other things i want to say. of -- ihat in terms have not experienced the tax release they are talking about.

i think they are referring to big corporations that receive huge tax relief. a lot of them became more rich. host: let's hear from jack in wisconsin, a supporter of president trump. hello. caller: good morning. for people who voted for joe record, hese of his was in office for 47 years print list 47 things he did, one a year. donald trump, however, in three moved the conflict tom jerusalem -- or jerusalem, all the president said they would do that, he did that. he reduced the military footprint in the middle east, he

started the middle eastern peace process. he reduced unemployment in america to record lows. he had the best economy the country had ever seen. it goes on and on and on. when you look at joe biden's record, it is nada. he was involved in a crime bill that is unfair to minorities, or people involved with drugs and things, they are in jail for minor drug offenses for years print donald trump released 10,000 of them. host: massachusetts, we will hear from is supporter of the president-elect. caller: hold on one moment. i support biden. biden is decent. these people calling about trump being decent, he let 30,000

people be killed in syria. he let 13,000 people be killed in the ukraine. babies -- he seven has allowed seven babies to die there. i do not understand, what is the matter with these people? these people are all wearing red? putin.e all worshiping i do not understand why they can't see that. host: fred is next in massachusetts, a supporter of president trump. hi. fred and lawrence, massachusetts? we will give fred one more chance. ok, let's hear from rebecca, georgia, a supporter of joe biden. caller: good morning. am consideredi not necessarily a republican or democrat, or a moderate. i do not agree with either

party's policies completely, but i voted for joe biden for several reasons. he has experience. he has been in politics for over 29 years as opposed to the inexperienced trump has, who allowed his own personal businesses to go bankrupt. we expect him to lead that country and go far. joe biden has interest for the people. as far as sam selecting come -- as far as him selecting kamala harris as his running mate, people say it is because she is a woman of color. why not? we should be looking at that anyways. she has experience in government. the other thing with president disregard fors all of the people that have died from covid-19. we have this experience in our family, it might surpass the way

covid has over 225 days. covid,r he was saying covid, covid, tired of them talking about covid, i believe people hurt.ssing host: i apologize. we will have to leave that there. thank you for sharing that, but our program is over. a lot happening in days ahead. we invite you to stay close to this network and our website, c-span.org commit to keep track of what is going on. another edition of washington journal comes our way tomorrow morning at 7:00. we will see you then. ♪

>> it was a once in a generation case where the beginning there were five republicans who sort of took the view of the bush team, which was all of the votes have been counted in florida and governor bush won. i said in this story, that is the position president trump is in. lost,s, once you have once the votes have been cast , it isnted and you lost hard to go to court and persuade a