caucus. james clyburn. onren davidson of ohio >> the chair asks all members of the chamber and members and staff throughout the capital to rise for a moment of silence and remembrance of the more than 250,000 americans who have passed away from the covid-19 virus. ♪ good morning, everyone. a moment of silence to mark a quarter of a million americans who lost their lives to covid-19. 100 87,000 cases

were reported in another 1962 lives lost yesterday alone. on moree, no deal yet economic aid from capitol hill. we want you to tell washington how the covid-19 pandemic impact that has impacted your life. in the central part of the country, (202) 748-8000. mountain and pacific, (202) 748-8001. medical professionals, (202) 748-8002. text at (202)s a 748-8003. us or post your comments on facebook.com/hcspan. let's begin with vice president mike pence yesterday at the white house. he and others held a briefing.

here is what he had to say. [video] >> as we begin this briefing increase insive testing in the last 10 months, with ppe and medical supplies and equipment available to the american people, the medicines and therapeutics and soon the vaccines available, america has never been more prepared to combat this virus than we are today. our pledge to each and every american looking on today is we will work around the clock to keep it that way and make sure hospitals that are seeing patients coming in on an increasing basis know we will work around the clock to meet that need. you have our continuing pledge and the practice of experience we have had along the way. host: the vice president yesterday. in delaware, vice president elect joe biden held his own

news conference yesterday and talked about a lot of different things. also the coronavirus pandemic. here is what he had to say. [video] >> given the death toll now, 200 50,000 americans who lost their lives, you said you would support a nationwide shutdown if science is recommended. pres.-elect biden: everybody asks that question every time i stand here. it was a hypothetical question. the answer was i would follow the science. i am not going to shut down the economy, period. we will shut down the virus. again, no national shutdown. shutdown because every region, every area, every community can be different. there is no circumstances i can see that require total national shutdown. i think that would be

counterproductive. but there are constraints in which the degree to which businesses can't be open. for example, it is one thing to say you can have -- in the state for the infection rate is not as high, you can have a gymnasium open. four hours a day with x number of people. my church, 40% of the people can go into the church. those are rational decisions. it is calibrating based on the trend. host: president-elect biden yesterday. we want you to tell washington how this has impacted your life. marvin in philadelphia, what has it been like? caller: horrible. i have been depressed. i really don't know what's getting t -- what's going on.

there's a medicine out there. the state of pennsylvania is about to shut down. congress and the senate not working together. i don't see no financial help coming about. twothe backside of that, the parties in the president don't want to sit down with the other president to catch him up. [indiscernible] if the election was illegal or whatever. you are getting two sides of news. changed youre you daily life because of the pandemic? caller: dealey thing i do is try to protect myself more -- the only thing i do is try to protect myself more. this is the second time.

hello? host: yes, the second time. caller: this is the second round. it seems like it is worse. before the government was working together then. now they really ain't working together. i am trying to save money. hold back a little bit because it don't look like any time of relief is going to come. unemployment.the or file foro back unemployment, i am not going to be able to get it. i have to live on my savings until at least next year. host: you were let go because of the pandemic? what did you do? caller: i am a construction worker. i am still working, god willing. i'm thinking if things get drastic like it did before they shut down everything for six

weeks or seven weeks, i have to have money aside to pay my rent. host: marvin in philadelphia. i will share with you the wall street journal this morning. the cdc calls on the nation to avoid holiday travel. surge is prompting people to limit the people in households. sending this tweet out this morning. pfizer is seeking u.s. emergency use of covid-19 shot, starting the process that could bring some doses as early as next month. dr. fauci was at the white house yesterday during the briefing. he said help was on the way. listen to what he had to say. [video] dr. fauci: telling you help is on the way. which has two aspects to it. that means we need to actually double down on the public health

measures as we are waiting for that help to come, which will be soon. we will be getting doses to people at the end of december. we are not talking about shutting down the country. we are not talking about locking down. we are talking about intensifying the simple public health measures we all talk about. mask wearing. distance. avoiding congregate settings. doing things outdoors instead of endorse. if we do that, we can hold things off until the vaccine comes. i use the metaphor that the cavalry is on the way. if you are fighting a battle in the cavalry is on the way, you don't stop shooting. do you keep going into the cavalry gets here and then you might even want to continue fighting. finally, one other final thing about it. the very impressive efficacy,

94.5% and 95% of the vaccine should motivate individuals to realize this is something you want to participate in. we will talk to you about it likely here in the future about why it is important as these vaccine doses rollout. you have to do two things. continue the public health measure and get vaccinated with the vaccine when it becomes available. host: dr. fauci yesterday. nicholas in spokane, washington. how has this disease impacted your life? like probably everybody else i lost my job to it. father passed away a couple of years ago. he had lung cancer. different things that make people more susceptible to this disease has been on the forefront of my mind. whereas other people are not as

nervous. they want social gatherings. i keep my head on the swivel. i have been majorly concerned with what is going on on an international basis. rates of tuberculosis were on the decline. enemy ofd the biggest our health as of now is global poverty. when you consider certain nations do not have the accessibility to sanitation and things like that, it is no wonder why people around the world are in a deficit because of that. dr. fauci said it best. the cavalry is on its way but you have to keep shooting. we have been shooting against poverty and things like tuberculosis and certain diseases in the pacific that are affecting minorities around the

world. on theefinitely been incline. takingdefinitely been social distancing seriously. i don't want to be inadvertently affected. host: you lost your job. what did you do? know, i kind you of looked at the positive. programd an internship with certain people. kind of like a little hamster at home, exercising and getting my cardio up so i'm not susceptible to some stuff. just the worries, the doubt. not knowing what is going to happen. maine.oe in caller: thanks for taking my call. i don't think i ever got on -- anyway.

it is my first time with you. i am retired and like everyone else there is the social problems with not seeing family with the holidays coming. york whenack to new the doctors in new york when the outbreak first came out -- i'm not going to blame anyone but the doubters were saying it was was justhoax and he the democrats doing it to get trump. crying,ctors were pleading with people to listen to them. it is nine months later and 250,000 deaths later and i think the people mostly responsible are the senators and the congressman who have ignored gaetz with his

mask on on capitol hill. do people remember that/ -- that? host: this is the world section of the washington post. in europe, every 17 seconds someone dies from covid-19 according to the world health organization. baltimore, how are you impacted? caller: i lost my job. i worked in a restaurant. the restaurant has not gotten back to normal yet. they are open a couple of days oa week. i have pre-existing conditions. i have a father who is 88. he has not been out of the house since march, the end of march. my brothers and sisters take food to him every wednesday. he does not want anybody in the house. then it is not bad enough we

have this going on, the unrest in washington makes it difficult for people. conditions.xisting it certainlyt but has impacted our lives. my wife is a teacher. she is not working. there is some stress on the family. host: do your unappointed benefits run out at the end of this month? caller: yes. host: how much were you getting and how far did that go? caller: $200 a week. know, we are, you -- we don't have a lot of money but we are making it. host: jim in grand forks, north dakota. you are next. caller: hi greta.

host: what has it been like for you? it made national news, grand forks. it is spiking here and people are worried. i guess it finally reached all the way out to hear. beginning ofhole the thing it wasn't really a big deal with me. i wear my mask all the time. i work in the mill. but today a lot of schools are closing. they opened but they only made it a few months and they are closing. a lot of the parents, including people i work with cannot afford daycare. they wonder what they are going to do with their kids. some people may lose their jobs again. the restaurants are open here. some bars are still open. met, for the first time, i bumped into people at a local mall who had older people and

some people that work there who had the disease. every one of them said the same thing. for threeachy and bad days, five days, one week, and they all came back. i have not met anybody that died but i le met a lot of people with symptoms of a bad cold. they were young people and old people who walk at the local mall. they came back and are perfectly fine. they are walking again. sometimes we lose perspective. we have to remember about 3 million americans will die at the end of this year. 2.9 million died last year. hundreds of thousands will die of cancer. 75,000 will die on the roads. the automobile has killed hundreds of thousands. we lose thousands to murder, thousands to accident. 220,000 is really in north

dakota, 80% are over the age of 82. o'reilly got in trouble for saying this on his podcast but they are people who would probably be dead by the end of this year anyway. it is horrible but it is true. mark is earliest said -- aurelius said death is around you and 10,000 forms. -- in 10,000 forms. host: a headline about the state from the press harold. air force nurses have been deployed to north dakota to address the hospital staffing crunch. rocky in englewood, ohio. caller: good morning. old.78 years i have been laid up at my house for the last 16 months. pneumonia andth

influenza some 16 to 18 months ago. andugh the course of time all this deal i have been sitting right here in my little easy chair not doing much of anything but trying to watch all this on tv and listen to what is going on outside when i get some information. two handicapped individuals in my household with me. one goes the day school and is handicapped. came home the other day and said they called and said somebody there had it. here for 14 days fending for ourselves, but we could do -- what we could do. strenuousa very, very

insulation. other than that we are getting along. i do believe the stimulus ought to be given to people. it is there money. the --lieve that it is it is their money. i believe i would be fortunate to get the shots because i believe i have more life to live. host: congress and the white 11se have until december when they are scheduled to leave around that time, mid-december, they are scheduled to leave washington to go back to their home districts and states. they have until then to come up with some sort of deal for economic aid if they will at all. on top of that, they face a spending bill -- spending

deadline to fund the federal government. that is december 11. a lot on their plates in washington. we will talk about that with two members of congress coming up on washington journal. how has covid-19 pandemic impacted your life? deborah and chester, arkansas. -- in chester, arkansas. has not really been impacted because i live alone in the woods, except for not being able to volunteer at the nursing home. it has impacted everybody around me though. you see the stores. you wonder if they will be able to hang on. children.ed about the they keep talking that it doesn't affect the children. s to affect children with weight problems and other health issues. that is all. host: let's listen to deborah

birx, dr. deborah birx encouraging folks to limit indoor gatherings over the upcoming holiday. [video] surgerx: we stopped the in the south through targeted mitigation that started with masks and physical distancing, but also include decreasing those friends and family gatherings where people come together and unknowingly spread the virus. i want to thank the mayors dove miami, miami city and miami county. they were the ones that first found how much asymptomatic spread was occurring in household gatherings. as you bring together individuals, remember with the vice president talked about. every american needs to be vigilant in this moment because we know when you are we can mitigate this virus and stop the spread together. host: are you being vigilant? we want to know how this is

changing your life. jennifer and plant city, florida. caller: good morning. how are you? host: how have you handled this? caller: i have my mask. i have a sign on my window in my apartment that you have to wear a mask. i was impacted due to coronavirus because my mother passed away in may of this year and i was not able to go to the carolinas due to the coronavirus. my sisters and brothers went but i chose to stay home because of my diabetes. when they say it is safe to travel, i will go see my mother's resting place. i hope everybody stays safe. listen to what the people in washington say and the doctors because it is critical at their.

two weeks ago i lost a cousin. i thought we would grow old together but i was not able to go to that funeral also. i just want everybody to stay safe and thank you for taking my call. host: i am sorry for your losses. for those of you thinking of traveling for whatever reason, you might want to check out this piece in the new york times. they have put together state-by-state what restrictions the authorities in those states are putting in place. com, putgo into nytimes. in the state and you will know what you need to do to cross borders. judy and union city, pennsylvania. isler: the television driving me crazy. they tell that geary, pennsylvania has had almost --

had, pennsylvania has county,n crawford noren and chautauqua one has ever gotten over it. i know it is a bad thing but they should tell the truth about people who have covid. when i tried to find out -- i called the governor, i senators, congressman, i even called the health department and no one can tell me why. we news channels keep saying have had no one get better in any of these areas. could somebody in this world give me an answer? host: ok, judy. i would say check with your local officials on that.

jerry in colorado, springs. what is it like out there? caller: it is pretty mellow actually. everything masks and seems to be going pretty well. although they had 600 more people yesterday that had it. days.aths in the last two but alleen kind of mild this not knowing what is going to happen next and people anding the masks sometimes being cavalier about not wearing it. you run into those people. for the most part colorado springs has been pretty lucky. we have not seen that. i keep a watch on my friends and they watch me and i stay home as

much as possible and where my .ask -- wear my mask older and i have a medical condition. i wear my mask and take care of myself. i drive a school bus. we are out right now until after thanksgiving break. we are supposed to be going back. i am worried about that because kids are good carriers of anything. the flu is coming around the corner as well. colorado springs is kind of low-key for this, knock on wood. host: as a bus driver i want to show you and others with dr. robert redfield said yesterday about what he believes is the importance of keeping schools open and having kids go into the buildings. should dr. redfield: we

be making data-driven decisions while we talk about what we are doing for institutions or commercial closures. for example, as was mentioned, the cdc did not recommend school closures last spring. nor did we recommend closures today. i will say back in the spring it was limited data. today there is extensive data that we have we have gathered over the last two to three months that confirm k-12 schools can operate with face to face learning and they can do it safely and they can do it responsibly. the infections we have identified in schools when they have been evaluated were not acquired in schools. they were actually acquired in the community and the household. today our big threat for transmission is not the public square.

it is small family gatherings. family gatherings were people become more comfortable. they remove their face masks when they get together. it is a silent epidemic that begins to transmit. it is not interschool transmission. the kids k-12, one of the safest places they can be from our perspective is to remain in school. host: michael and danville, illinois. -- in danville, illinois. how has this impacted your life? caller: very little. if you took the virus away and it never existed, i still took precautions. i did not go lay down in the middle of the interstate. i did not drive it 100 mile per hour. i took care of my health. i am a retired high school teacher, 65 years old. the more concerned about condition of our country,

especially of our government. and democrats who have this concept we have to have a texas deathmatch, winner take all. the fact there is no compromise scares me more than the virus because i do take the precautions you are to take. i respect my health but i also respect the health of others. and i guess that is about it. host: rusty from bel air, maryland, sends us this text. "we are trying to help our sons who opened the business. we send the money to help them. frustrating to see senator mcconnell posturing but not helping." here is another from alan in huntington. "i decided to forgo looking for a semi retirement job. i don't think it is worth the risk. i have a pension that provides adequate income.

i have become disillusioned with the significant percentage of my fellow americans. so many seem selfish, ignorant, shortsighted, and easily gaslight." lauren in baltimore, what do you do? caller: i am a nurse. host: are you helping covid patients? caller: sometimes. i work in labor and delivery. pregnant people get covid. we are taking care of covid patients. if they get really sick, they get to the icu and that is out of our hands. host: how has that been for you? it has been, incredibly difficult. cry evenke i want to just talking about it because hearing all these people call in saying i know these people

and it didn't really affect them, it is a knife in my heart. it has been the hardest year of a lot of medical people's lives. it is crazy that you feel like you are screaming into the void and nobody is listening. i feel very disillusioned. i feel like a lot of us are getting burned out and want to give up. for awhat is it like woman who is pregnant to get covid? what are the challenges and complications with that? caller: one big challenge that worked over time where i -- and we don't know the long-term impacts of an infection during pregnancy. we probably will not know for a long time. it seems like initially most babies do well. parent that have a

has an infection, even if they are doing fairly well, they have to make a difficult decision if they want to keep the baby, the newborn with them with possible risk of transmitting to the baby. four do they want to be separated from the baby for maybe 10 to 14 days, which could also have untold impact on the bonding and that important time p -- in that important time period. for all patients, even if they don't have covid, we allow them to have one support person with them. but that's a difficult decision for people. maybe they can have a spouse but not their mom. it is impacting everybody. i do want to say i have seen so many women be incredibly brave. ahave seen patients wear

mask giving birth and be so strong. seeing that and then seeing people in the grocery store that with the complaint they can't wear a mask for 10 minutes to go in and get some food while i see people have natural childbirth wearing a mask makes me disgusted. a testo they have to get before they come into the hospital if they are going into labor? do you administer that before they come in so you know what you are up against? in some cases you might not have time for that. caller: if there is time. we are fortunate. we have rapid testing. all the patients that come in get a rapid test. but then the support people they are with don't. roomworker you are in the for long periods of time, close distance. you don't really know if a

family never could have covid. you just feel like you are exposed. host: lauren, a nurse in baltimore. if you are a medical professional we would like you to call in as well. let me make sure i get this number right. (202) 748-8002. porter in birmingham, good morning. caller: how are you doing? host: we are listening. how has this impacted your life? you were talking about the kids not going to school and stuff. [indiscernible] 10 to 15 kids in a class.

that cap the teachers from getting to all the kids. donald trump told us a long time ago he wasn't a politician. host: let's stick to the topic. brian in washington state. what is it like for you? caller: the craziest years of all years i can remember. i will say something that round,d me is a person, hi community -- the people i'm round, community members, i listen to their opinions. because of this covid crisis instead of being passive, i have started coming out and questioning their sources and if theyhem, you know, believe in other people's stories or they want to count the numbers. yesterday i met a retired aircraft mechanic.

he started telling me his friend in the medical industry informed him that all the deaths in our community will be labeled covid because there is a cash payout, just like the guy in the white house at a couple of weeks ago. now you have people saying everybody is going to be labeled dying of covid. i had to call this retired air force mechanic out. -- if there isrs an opportunity for a lawyer to come and sue somebody for defamation or slander or fraud, they will not pass up a financial opportunity. if you relate people being called out for what they are it is as fraud or fact, time -- i use the example of our local newspaper and the

obituaries. i told this retired pensioner to go look at today's obituary and compare it to 12 month ago. these are numbers. these are not myths. these are facts. there is. i'm having to stick my nose out and call people out on their opinions when normally i would let it go. i feel it is my duty as a citizen to stand up for truth and now that the untruth be, you know, run amok. host: yesterday president-elect biden, after he met with the governors, was asked about possible legal actions against the gsa and the refusal to call the election, allowing his transition team to get pandemic data. [video] >> you said lives could be lost if you don't start getting

briefings for the trump administration. we are more than 250,000 lives could be lost. how do you justify not taking legal action to get the briefings you say are critical? pres.-elect biden: it would take a lot of time. it would take time. it is not going to speed it up considerably in my view. hopeful intime, i am will get cooperation from our republican colleagues in the senate and the house and the governors to build a consensus as to how we proceed when we do. toolter: why not use every in your toolbox to get the information to do your job and do it effectively on day one? pres.-elect biden: i am making a judgment based on many years of experience and how to get things done with the opposition. that we will get

further along by actually working with our republican because the time in which we would win would not materially change necessarily. but it's an open question. outrter: you have not ruled legal action against the gsa? pres.-elect biden: we have not ruled it out. host: the washington post front page. trump wages full assault to overturn election. state officials. the new york times reports the president targeting michigan in a ploy to subvert the vote. on thursday, the president accelerated his efforts, taking the extorting step of reaching out to republican state legislators from michigan and inviting them to the white house as theor a discussion

state prepares the certified president-elect biden the winter there. -- winner there. trump will last state legislators to alter electors. biden questions legality of this longshot attempt. textromney sent out this -- tweet yesterday. "having failed to make a plausible case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law the president has resorted to pressure on state and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election. it is difficult to imagine a worse or more undemocratic action by a sitting american president." ben sasse of nebraska, he too also is panning the tactics and contesting the election. pennsylvania --

georgia. in your state today they are expected to announce the results of the audit and recount. caller: yes. really affected me in more than one way. i was going to celebrate my 65th birthday this year. we canceled. two weeks later, they had a wedding reception there. not only did people die for one of the owners died. i can no longer help my family at memorial day labor day. i grilled out this past weekend. i grilled so much food i had to throw it away because it was used to grilling for other folks. to the people that voted for trump, i truly know how you feel. four years ago, we voted for

hillary. we felt the same way you are feeling now. this too shall pass. you have to get over it the way we got over it. we have to come together as a country and go back to being our brother's keeper. thank you for your call. host: kariba in riverside, california. caller: good morning. host: how is this impacting you? caller: this impacted my family a great deal. i was released, came home for the hospital with a fresh baby. in two to three months, my whole family ended up catching covid from the new born baby, to the seven-year-old, to myself. we were unable to go out. we were quarantined for 14 days. unable to get supplies we needed. it impacted the whole community in this area, california.

and also our household. some people are wearing masks, some aren't. there is a new mandate. we are supposed to but a lot of people are not adhering to the restrictions. i think at this point it is a boundarye there is no on where the infection goes. it knows no race, no color, no gender. i think it is a time where everyone needs to wear a mask. the stimulus needs to be passed for all the people. i am a medical biller. even with working during the pandemic it has been difficult to make ends meet when my husband just got let go from his job for the pandemic due to an infection. there needs to be some type of junction of what is going on and for us to get a better grip on this virus and come together. host: is everybody doing ok?

caller: we are all still taking. thank god we are still here, yes. host: what did your husband do? caller:caller: a truck driver. he got let go because of the pandemic. host: not enough business? caller: people were infected in the company. the company had a close down temporarily. host: can he collect unemployment? caller: he was collecting unemployment and that just stopped. about are looking to see reapplying now because he was sent back home. he has been sent home twice this year for the pandemic. story echoes the headline in the washington post. unemployment claims rise as restrictions increase nationwide. usa today has a story about jobs lost. back toely to come

could take quite a while to see recovery. they get their data from glassdoor. they take a look and said being a chef is one of those jobs americans are not chomping at the bit to return to dining out. 100,000 restaurants have closed during the health crisis. executive assistants. the ranks have already been shrinking as voicemail, supplementsoftware their duties. receptionist is another job that may take a while or not come back at all. account payable specialist, hr generalists, product demonstrators who demonstrate products and department stores and other locations have fallen in numbers as americans increasingly favor online shopping.

there is brand invested or, professor -- ambassador, professor, and event coordinator. we want to let you know what's happening on capitol hill. at 9:00 a.m. eastern, the house armed services committee is holding a hearing on the mission in afghanistan. we will have character that on listen, c-span.org, or with the free c-span radio app. that's up to the president announced he would like to draw down troop levels in afghanistan and iraq. charles reding will testify before the house ways and means subcommittee on oversight. what set at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3, on our website, and listen with the free radio app. this afternoon vice president pence will deliver remarks at a rally in canton, georgia with david perdue and kelly leffler who both have runoff elections

in january. blocks that on c-span2 at 12:30 eastern, as well as other website, c-span.org, and the free c-span radio app. c-span2, 12:30. --s comes as the secretary the georgia secretary of state put out a statement yesterday about the audit results, saying the risk-limiting audit reaffirmed the outcome of the presidential race as originally reported. joe biden leading president trump in the state. the process led to counties making mistakes -- counting mistakes made. those counties uploaded the memory card and recertified the results, leading to increased accuracy of the results. in george's recount the highest error rate was .73%. most counties found no change in their final tally. the majority of the remaining

counties had changes of fewer than 10 ballots. the president can request a recount after certification of the results. that recap will be conducted by rescanning all paper ballots. the atlanta journal-constitution is reporting on the vice president's visit and the likelihood we will hear from the georgia secretary of state today on certifying the election results. he is scheduled to certify the boat after a manual recount of roughly 5 million ballots validated the initial results of the election. the recount uncovered 6000 ballots overlooked in the first tally, resulting in trump closing his deficit by 1400 votes. the final count shows biden received 12,284 more votes than trump, making it one of the thinnest margins in the nation. only arizona, where roughly 11,000 votes divide the

candidate is closer. after he certifies the vote, the next step will be for governor kemp to certify the 16 democratic electors for the state by 5:00 p.m. on saturday. the group of powerbrokers and activists include stacey abrams, savannah mayor, the u.s. rep williams --chemo nakima williams. -- if they lost by less than half a percentage point. the cost of the recount will be paid by the taxpayers. john in breezewood, pennsylvania. back to our conversation about the pandemic is impacting you. caller: hi. it had a major impact on my life. unfortunately i am a care provider.

i have a multi-handicap son. he is 31 years old, autistic and partially blind. he has the cognitive ability somewhere of a toddler. he will not wear masks. hawaii, wholives in served in iraq suffers from ptsd. i want to give a shout out to all the people at the medical oahu.tal on i can't travel. toson cannot wear a mask visit my other disabled son who suffers from injuries from the war, from iraq and his service. availability his to go to the day programs because of his inability to wear our mask. -- a mask.

increased stress in the home. can you hear me? host: we heard you say it's increasing the stress in your home. program -- a lot of people have never heard of the consolidated waiver program. billy is subject to that. he gets a lot of his funding through the ada and consolidated waivers. the programs he used to go to during the day they give you respite relief does not occur now. i am providing 24/7 service for the last eight months. my wife is medically disabled. she was hurt when she was a nurse moving a patient. she blew out three discs in her back.

i care for her, my son, and i'm trying to do as best i can over the telephone with the one in hawaii. all you people calling and screaming masks, masks, masks, you are impacting old people, disabled people, people you are forcing to stay in their homes that need services, need medical help, and need the love and affection of other family members and the psychological and emotional support that provides. host: listen to dr. fauci yesterday. [video] dr. fauci: the only way you can get an effective program is when people take the vaccine. we will talk to you about that. i hear a lot now be made these announcements this past monday and two mondays ago about some reticence of people. was this too fast? is it really safe and really efficacious?

the process and the speed did not compromise the safety, nor did it compromise scientific integrity. it was a reflection of the extraordinary scientific advances in these types of vaccines that allowed us to do things in months that actually took years before. i really want to settle that concern people have about that. what about the decision of the data? who looked at the data? was that some force trying to put something over on you? no. it was an independent body of people who have no allegiance to anyone. not to the administration, not to me, not to the companies. they looked at the data and deemed it to be sound. now that data will be examined very carefully by the fda, who, together with an advisory committee, the vaccine and related biological products advisory committee, or look at

that before the fda makes the decision about putting this fourth or ultimately for a license. anyeed to put the risks of concept this was rushed, this is really solid. host: dr. fauci yesterday on the vaccine. cnbc is reporting pfizer and biontech are requesting emergency authorization for the vaccine. the fda process will take a few weeks. the advisory committee meeting to review the vaccine has been scheduled for early december. vaccine,a approves the it will likely be limited and role that in phases with health-care workers, the elderly, and people with underlying health conditions getting the first inoculations. gail in salem, oregon. how has this impacted you? caller: it has impacted me tremendously. i just lost my partner on the

ninth of november. he wasn't feeling well. well the feeling wednesday before. he thought he had the flu. said -- we are both very vigilant about wearing our masks. to the point where family don't want to talk to us. and wednesday he did not feel good. i kept pushing him and pushing him. he thought because he was being so careful in wearing his mask that everything was ok. i said you can't trust that. go get tested. he got tested on friday.

monday i called him. at 4:00 in the morning. i kept saying -- i kept calling. mike, pick up the phone, pick up the phone. he wasn't doing it. i was texting him. i couldn't get a hold of him. i did a wellness check. that wellness check, the police officer said he looked in the window and he saw his color was good and he was breathing. something it was not right. right.thing was not i said i have been in his bed for 12 years. he would wake up. something is not right. so the l.a. family'-- the only

member's phone number i had, his daughter lindsay, i did not get a phone call back until 7:00 in the morning. this is a couple of hours they texts andth multiple phone calls i was sending out to mike and to his daughter. i could not get over there. i am quarantined. i am not well myself. and his family member does not believe in this stuff. back, i saided me when you go in there, can you wear a mask? she said i will not tell him what to do. she goes in there -- not she.

her son. my god, i'm sorry. i'm a little distraught right now. there, mike'st in son, they busted the door down. which i could have said were the key was but whatever. he was dead. sense something was not going right. check.d for a wellness literally when i said to the police officer, he said what is the concern? he was diagnosed with covid. well, the way he responded was the same way his daughter did.

like i know, ok. he did not say that. i know heid, yeah, got diagnosed. i'm just concerned. the police officer, the same thing. oh, ok. i don't know. it feels like people are guarded. his whole family went into the house. when i talked to the chief said, whenminer, i is it safe to be in the house after somebody dies of covid? his name is rob anderson. chief medical examiner and marion county. -- in marion county. he said a minimum of 72 of 72 h. now, this is like a superspreader event.

peace, he has two coworkers. as soon as i found out he passed away i called his coworkers, because they made fun of him every day for wearing a mask. shieldsone of those [coughing] s -- sorry.ail, i am so i am so sorry for your loss. know, when the one gal that was talking that is a nurse, she said she feels like she is screaming out in the void? that is how i feel. children and they

don't -- they are not doing any protection at all. they made fun of him as well. , heatherings and stuff would be the only one there with a mask. he wouldn't hug people. he is very affectionate. i mean, extremely affectionate. gemini, we haven't hug forecast for months and months -- we haven't -- him and i come that we haven't hug or kiss for months and months. host: i appreciate you telling us your story. again, sorry for your loss. we are going to take a break, when we come back, we will talk about what is happening with the covid pandemic in lawmakers' districts. first we will talk with donald norcross from the journey. and then later, republican congressman warren davidson of ohio.

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traditionally families get together for thanksgiving. it certainly changes. host: what has been the all canonical? what job -- what has been the economic toll? what jobs have been lost, the industry's, what has it been like? guest: a live across from onntown philadelphia, and any day, the traffic is backed up. .t is down to almost nothing people are now seeing the long-term effects of the pandemic. as you know, unemployment ran out some time ago. eerily, allr not, over the district, food insecurity is a big deal.

there was food distribution several times a week. there.ough out host: who is in those full -- food lines that you did not think would be in food lines before this? guest: people used to be on the other side of the equation. the ones who would donate to the food banks and help out. now we have seen that those are the ones on unemployment. egg they did have, which for most people is very little, and ran out a long time ago. unemployment made such a difference, in the fact that we cannot -- is just unbelievable. this comment by any measure, is the worst economic times for anybody who has been a live on this earth. it is bad and we need to add. host: do you think the speaker -- it is bad, and we need to

act. host: do you think the speaker should compromise with republicans and go below the $2 trillion she has been advocating for, to get something done and some money sent out? guest: sure. something generally is good. but the fact of the matter is if you lower your standards just to begin, there are other items we talk about, state and local aid. talk about the funding of police, you don't fund state and local, police, firefighters, there's teachers, they are starting to get laid off because it is taking place at the statehouse. in local towns. we have to act. the idea of just throwing a little bit at them is the wrong way to start the conversation. host: what have you been told

from your leadership about prospects for getting this done before you adjourn mid-december? we were in conversations with leadership last night until about 8:00. those conversations are happening. obviously, they are not happening at the rate we would like. remember, we passed the h.e.r.o.e.s. act months ago. there was a real discussion taking place, and each time we would get closer and closer, trump threw the towel in and said it was not a priority before the election. what we heard is that after the election congress would do their job. well, we didn't do our job. the white house took a pass on this. obviously he's not feeling the way the american people are. host: we want you to join in on the conversation. if you are a democrat, dial in at 202-748-8000. republicans, your line will be

202-748-8001. 202-748-8002. jersey, mike in new democratic caller. you are a first. mike, i am ame is construction worker from new jersey. i know it is extremely rare for somebody with your background to become an elected official, so i was just curious, how did you go from a construction site to make it to congress? guest: thank you. it is rather rare. as i like to say, there are 214 lawyers in congress, but only one electrician. i went to the other for your school, to an apprenticeship -- i went to the other 4-year school. apprenticeship. i enjoyed working with my hands,

so i had an opportunity to go to a registered apprenticeship program. my parents were open-minded with any of their kids. so when that opportunity was raised, did i want to go to college or --? our country needs each of those. there is value in each of those. i was a single dad and it was tough, dropping off my son at 7:00 in the morning and rushing to the job site. but i loved every minute of it. i enjoyed it. i look back with great fondness. the most difficult thing i had to do was leave that part of my life behind. but the idea of having somebody represent you that has not experienced much of the things you're talking about really is an important issue. of the diversity of employment and educational values -- we

talk about unemployment, i remember what that was like. i was hurt and i was on disability. these were a part of my life. i loved being an electrician. i still am, in fact. my wife usually has a list for me when i go home. now my older son has become an electrician, and we are to me proud of what he does also. host: john is in new jersey as well, democratic caller. go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. good morning, congressman. in the biden administration, it is critical that we support workers. especially seeing covid-19 numbers surge and the pandemic going nowhere soon, what are some of the things you would like to work on to support workers? guest: thank you for the call. certainly for those who are coming off month of listening to

both candidates, there is a stark difference in what the reality is. -- he was always one of those who would take up the cause for working families. he has been there, he is somebody who has always been a part of that. about building back better, that speaks volumes in my area. when we talk about what people do, sometimes you hear that if you want to make it in america, you have to go to a four-year college. that might be true and certainly there is value in that, but for 70% of americans who don't have , being anr degree electrician or a carpenter, the idea of dignity. we have to remember that.

that part of our lives is so important that whether you go to work in a refinery and work with your hands, or you are a phd .rom harvard, we are all the same we want to put food on the table or make sure our kids are well taken care of so they can pursue what they want in life, and we all in this together. plan,ou look at the biden it is talking about a true infrastructure plan. we heard four years of this great infrastructure plan that was going to come out of the administration, nothing came out. you would hear about energy infrastructure. it has been quite a few years. if you think back to new york, during the great blackout, that infrastructure needs to be upgraded. but the most important thing is covid. and i just want to take a moment to say thank you to the essential workers, because for

those who put on the uniform, whether it is a badge on their r scrubs,you wea to the teachers, the transit workers and bus drivers who did not sign up to put their life to the li -- did not sign up to put their life on the line. each day they put their life on the line so our lives can continue. they are going to work. that is so important. imagine going to work at a supermarket, you are a bagger or a cashier, which was my first job. making minimum wage, in some cases a little bit that are if you have a union -- a little bit better if you have a union. we want to say thank you because we really appreciate it. whether it is the infrastructure, which is so important, covid, bringing back

, particularly in the armed services, making sure national security includes our thoserial base, so that important tools which were used to keep our country safe are made here in america. host: let's go to georgia, a democratic caller. caller: hello. nice to talk to you, sir. very pleased to talk to a man who has been through an apprenticeship and understands how much that means. years as an apprentice, as a machinist and then as a tool maker. it has worked well for me all my life. i wanted to ask a specific question. people are beating up on nancy pelosi because of the amount of dollars. the amount of dollars isn't what

she is after, what she is after is accountability. if the republicans are written --it is the republicans who number one, they don't want accountability and they don't want oversight on the bill. by other thing they don't want forhat they do want is corporations to get off as far as liability is concerned if they cause harm to an employee. i would like you to comment on that. i appreciate very much your being where you are. thank you so much. host: thanks, harry. guest: thank you. across georgia come that you are in the middle of a firestorm. a couple of elections coming up in the senate that could really help change the direction of the country. a machinist, those are skill

sets that in many cases we are using. our industrial base, because we had so many things that have been offshoring we are losing the next generation of worker. we have a lot of smart people, but we need people like electricians to put those things back together. so thank you for all you have done. let's talk about the standards. right now we are following guidelines in this country. the cdc has been at the forefront of that, about what you should do on the job site. we have had a set of standards over atss covid sitting the department of labor where they are going nowhere. the idea that each employee decides what they should do, we have some of the greatest science in the world. we have the standards. the idea of having a standard is

i believe the biden administration will do extremely well. it was part of the h.e.r.o.e.s. act and the first set of bills that we put through that are still sitting there. you have to have a set of standards, a, that are enforceable, and b so we're all playing to the same tune of music,. it is wrong with the department of labor has not been doing. let's talk about what they can do, put the set of standards in. the idea that some employers are giving out nothing for ppe? my god, it is a pandemic. i think it is incredibly important. we also took a lot of heat for enhanced unemployment. god, every dollar of unemployment going out is going right into your community. not into offshore accounts.

$1.3 trillion is what we gave away -- is what tax breaks they give away. this is a pandemic. we are at war. we need to take care of the people that need it most. i think what you brought up is incredibly important. get this done. they are hurting out there. the restaurants are hurting. business is hurting. -- it is so important for the economy, yes, to put food on the table, but it also helps supermarket, those who are trying to get to work and put gas in their car. that is one of the reasons why my colleague and myself put together the new labor

caucus. we saw the inequities going on out there and we said, what do we do? mark came out of a union. the principles of the labor --.nt that we wanted to host: roger is calling from hawaii, an independent on the line with the congressman. caller: good morning, congressman. i wanted to ask you about the campaigning. everybody is campaigning and paying lots of money to campaign . when president trump was on the campaign rallies, who was paying for his expenses such as air force one? that is public property, which is us. are we paying for his gas on that airplane? all his rallies? is the taxpayer paying that?

roger.k, congressman? guest: they are a couple of rules to go with this. for air force one, it is about $200,000 an hour, and that is a couple of years old. there are rules in place that that if he goes to rallies, he has to reimburse. there is a formula. but the matter who the president is, we want to make sure they are safe. but you can't use the assets of the american government, taxpayers, for political use. there is a line that has been drawn that you have to follow, there is no question about that. host: tallahassee, florida, joseph a republican. caller: thank you. first i would like to say, everybody, have a happy thanksgiving. -- i am 72s old

years old. there is aing if solution that could help our thetry, midi something like reenacting the selective service draft. just a simple plan in my own mind, all men and all young women, 19-21 serve two years with no deferments. everybody serves. number one, he would have to have a place where they can serve and be trained. the military bases could be reopened. construction crews could go back to work. after that, the people in the communities could actually go ahead and work on the base and the people at the bases could go ahead and put the money into the community. that's the way it was. there was a war going on in vietnam.

so what i am just saying is that, could this possibly be a solution to a big problem, if we build up a defense -- our defense, it would give young people a general idea of which way to go with their lives. if they don't have an idea, they may gain one. and each community would feel proud again. host: congressman, your thoughts. guest: thank you. if you had an opportunity to go to some of our national parks, my family in tennessee, right of the smoky mountains, you see all the work that the organization did back then. it was an incredible time. it was the depression and that was one of the programs. you bring up a point, public service, and how important that is. it gives us an opportunity to say thank you to all those who are serving in our military around the world and keeping us safe.

they made the decision -- i talked earlier about whether to go to college, build a college or defend a college. those who put their life on hold to defend our country, it is an incredible moment and we say thank you for what they do. many did the ultimate and they never come home. for those who have a loved one -- my son served, and certainly there were nights when you stay awake thinking, are they safe? but is there a way of having public service? there are some that are talking about that opportunity for , oric service retiring some of the debt for student loans. that has been talked about quite a bit. but the idea that we all pitch in together, i think the concept is one that has to be revisited. you look at other countries

around the world that have different ways of looking at this. israel, they all serve in the military, with few exceptions. it makes you look at things differently. when you think where so many of our soldiers and airmen have been. we are all in this together. the idea of giving back i think is incredibly important, and i hope we continue to have that conversation. -- thoseou just can't responsibilities to a few. we are all in this together. host: representative donald norcross, thank you for your time this morning? >> i really appreciate it. thank you. host: come back again. , we will talk with congressman james clyburn, a member of the leadership committee -- the leadership in the house for democrats.

congressman from south carolina. then later we will be joined by republican congressman warren davidson from ohio to talk about the response to the covid-19 pandemic. we will be right back. ♪ has toptv on c-span2 nonfiction books and authors every weekend. weekend, saturday at 1:00 p.m. eastern from the recent virtual brooklyn book festival, several authors on the suffrage movement. on the historyon of the civil rights in new york. at 7:25 p.m. eastern, adam higginbotham, on the untold story of the world's greatest nuclear disaster on. sunday at 1 p.m. eastern, more from the brooklyn book festival as authors discuss the past and future of technology. then they discuss the potential

effects the coronavirus will have a society. at 9:00 p.m. eastern on after words, a political scientist and author talks about her book "counting, how do we use numbers to decide what matters?" she is interviewed by a data scientist and author. watch book on c-span2 this weekend. "washington journal" continues. host: here to give us an update on covid-19 relief talks is the majority whip in the house, mr. clyburn. thank you for your time. let's begin with where negotiations stand right now. guest: as you know, the senate has left town. i understand mitch mcconnell with about problem 20-25 members of the senate who

seem to not want to do anything. and we can't get this done without cooperation from him, and he has a ready said he will not put anything on the floor unless it has got support from the white house. and i don't know if anybody can expect much from the white house these days, so i don't see much happening. we will come back after thanksgiving. i talked with the speaker yesterday. i am in sync with her as to what she would like to see done and hopefully we can get something going at that time. but there will not see anything done in the next couple of weeks. host: is the speaker open to lowering the number from $2.2 trillion to a lower number that republicans in the senate would like to see? guest: people keep talking about the number.

i keep talking about the need. the american people are hurting, they are in need. let's do what the public needs apply a price tag to it. i don't operate as looking at the price tag and then dealing out the programs. let's lay out what needs to be done and then we let the price tag the care of itself. host: you are the chair of the select committee on coronavirus. i am wondering what role you might play in oversight of the vaccine distribution. guest: i will play a critical role with that. there will be a problem as to how many we have an when then we have to worry goes.where it

i tell people all the time, i was around for the polio vaccine, and it looks like we will have two this time. we had two polio vaccines, but there is a marked difference between the two. the polio vaccine was a shot in the arm. guess which community got the shot in the arm? i still have the scar. and which community got the lump of sugar. we are looking for not just efficiency and effectiveness in the distribution of this vaccine, we are also looking for equity. so we are going to be looking to make sure that everybody is treated fairly. host: what have you been told about the role government will play in the distribution the f.d.a. and what is the best way to make it equitable? guest: it is to have the scientists make the decision. let the medical community set

drug companies and make that decision. keep the politicians out of it. in thebig believer shoulddence but science take in determining where the vaccine should go i and when. we know what the needs are. we have a lot of front-line people that need to be taken care of. people who we call essential workers, they ought to be first to be taken care of. those of us who are not essential should wait our turn. host: what do you say to people who are not trusting the government on the safety of this vaccine? guest: i would say keep the government out of it. let the scientists and the medical community make that

decision. i understand why people don't trust the government, all you have to do is look at the shenanigans that are going on right now around this election we just had, and you understand why people don't understand the government. so keep the government out of it. let the scientists make the decision. host: what about distrust of corporations, though the corporations who have created the vaccine? guest: i have not detected any distrust of the creation of the vaccine. if the experts say it is safe, we will treat this vaccine like we treat everything else. none of us are experts in this. if you have an ailment and you go to a professional and the professional says this is what it will take to take care of the , i am doing exactly what the doctor says. so i don't think that people will distrust the scientists, they distrust the lies that keep

coming out of government these days. host: congressman clyburn, there is also another deadline congress faces, december 11, to keep the government running. that could obviously impact the response to the pandemic. where do those negotiations stand? guest: that is a little bit above my pay grade. i have no idea where they stand. i do know that there is some concerns that have been expressed about that. once again, whatever we do come you have to have cooperation from the senate, and we have to have a buy-in from the white house. in the white house seems to be missing in action. --t: message to looking nancy pelosi hinted last week that this could possibly be her last term as speaker. you have interest?

was said, ird what was standing there when she said it. i have no idea what her timeframe is, but i don't really want to get into what my interest will be until i decide what the avenues i might travel on. host: could you share with our viewers your thought process in endorsing president-elect joe biden in the south carolina primary? so many people have given you credit for his election, and that pivotal moment. when and how did you decide? well, my wife passed away year.tember 19 of last she was very active politically and from topically -- and philanthropically.

she was a professional librarian. she loved joe biden. we talked about joe biden, and she thought he was the best for us. well, she had passed away by the time we got around to the primary. the debate inre charleston, i went to a funeral -- ms. jones, a woman i had never met for, called me , ir to her and she told me need to know who you are going to vote for, and if you don't to know, leaned down and whisper your answer into my ear. and i did what she asked me to do. but then when she snapped her head back, there was a look at m her face that i had never

been able to explain. she said to me, i needed to hear that, in this community needs to hear from you -- and this community needs to hear from you. that is what made me do what i did when i did it. those two women made me do what i did. host: congressman james clyburn, thank you for your time this morning. we appreciate the update. guest: thank you very much. host: joining us now is congressman warren davidson of ohio, republican representative of the eighth district, here to talk about how the covid-19 pandemic is impacting his area. congressman, what is it like? guest: ohio is dealing with a new mandate from the governor, a curfew from 10 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.. a lot of negative feedback on that. i spoke with hospitals in our district and they are being overwhelmed with cases, with their own workforce challenges, with people getting covid as

well. there is a spike in cases, and they think everybody wants to do something, the question is can we do things that are scientifically rational and explain that to the population so there is true support for the reaction. host: you have been critical of governor dewine and his mandates. let me show our viewers the most recent mandates he has put out -- businesses must post signs requiring masks at public entrances, stores must ensure that employees and customers are wearing masks. he created a retail compliance unit to inspect to ensure compliance. businesses payment to comply will get a written warning on the first offense. a store or business can be closed after 24 hours for a second offense. which one of these mandates or others do you disagree with and why? guest: i don't agree with the curfew at all, but when you look , as henew mask mandate rolled out his new retail compliance unit, it was really under threat of, we will see in

a week whether we shut things again. businesses that are already unable to survive are being threatened with their very existence if they basically don't serve as good agents of the state. the mask compliance is huge all over ohio, and that is what they are finding. when they go out, they see over 90% are wearing masks. people in businesses have signs posted. the community is aware of what is going on with covid. the vast majority of people are choosing to wear a mask. so i think the tone is really the big thing. frankly, asking nicely, the governor could do that. asking nicely with the threat of force is a whole different approach, and that is the part i have a problem with. -- which do you follow guidelines do you follow from the federal government, and do you agree with the officials from the white house task force yesterday saying we need to

limit gatherings during thanksgiving? guest: i think if you feel uncomfortable going to a gathering, you politely decline. it is an honor to be invited to someone's home or their business. i always appreciate being invited. when people invite me to their workplace, hospital or business, i follow the guidelines that they put in place, and there are a range of practices out there. but if you feel uncomfortable with those practices, then you just politely decline. i don't think we need the government to tell people how to do that. host: we are asking our viewers to join in with your questions or comments for the congressman. democrats, 202-748-8000. 8001.licans, 202-748-800 , dial in onts 202-748-8003. independents, 202-748-8002.

do you not think another round of economic aid is needed? guest: i think the biggest thing, and we have had a bill for this since may, is accountability for the money that has already been spent. it was obvious by may -- the great news is that this is not the battle that many people feared, that this was a virus that was going to kill 2 million people on the other side. , it is not the one real hope for that would go away. there is still a need. we spend money in the early days as if it was going to be the 2 million people might die virus. when i talked to legislators, local government officials, they say that the two big things they need are a longer deadline than december 31, and they were saying this in june. so september 30 of 2021.

another thing they needed was flexibility on use cases. the biggest problem are covid-adjacent expenses. the auditor wants to audit flexibilitygiving to school districts of the school year was a real big push for it. that is still needed. the governor sent a delegation a letter and his top request was flexibility. beyond that, there are things in the program the secretary mnuchin is in the process of working with congress and the federal reserve about how to make use of over 400 billion dollars that was already appropriated the just hasn't been implemented because the guidelines and the support from businesses and bank regulators hasn't been there to make these programs as effective as they could be. so i think the legislative clarity for some of those programs would go a long way.

lastly, one of the programs that work really well was the payroll protection plan. there is still $138 billion in that. while that money was sent to businesses, the fact was that it passed straight through to payroll. in our district, over 100,000 workers, a district of about 100,000people, over 103r workers were able to stay on the payroll, mostly benefits. over 7000 businesses, roughly less.r four $150,000 or these were not giant loans to giant companies. all the companies had 500 or fewer workers. it really has made a difference. but forgiveness of that is still lagging. it's been too slow. so we should clarify and accelerate that forgiveness. what that will do as businesses get that forgiveness, it frees up their balance sheet so they can take up collateral without this lingering death on the

books. host: before we get to the calls, your reaction to utah republican senator mitt romney sending out this to eat -- having failed to make a case for widespread fraud or conspiracy before a court of law, the president has resorted to putting pressure on state and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election. it is difficult to imagine a worse, more on action by a sitting american president. guest: i am glad mitt romney has not changed parties. i appreciate that he is voting for mitch mcconnell as majority leader. other than that, there's not much on which i agree with mitt romney. protection of our democracy does not mean you refuse to count vote.legal every candidate is within their right to follow the process in each jurisdiction where they are on the ballot, and the president is doing that. so i completely disagree with mitt romney. a democraticdiana,

collar. your of first. caller: good morning. good morning and everything is giving to both of you. getting right to the point, let's make one thing clear, we in some overzealous science-fiction novel, covid-19 is real, and when people make fun of other people for wearing masks, that is buffoonery. people not only don't want to emphasize the truth, they go out of the way to de-emphasize it. when i am getting ready to walk a minefield, i say to myself all i have to do is think that it is there, is that how i should think about it? day.a good host: congressman, do you wear a mask? guest: i have a hard time with the logic of wearing a mask outside and is you're going to

be in a large crowd or gathering. i have been in places where there are pretty tight restrictions and i follow whatever protocols people have felt that they want to have feel safe in their workplace or setting, but i think the logic of masks outside is one that i question the most. host: we will go to kentucky, joe is a republican. hi, joe. caller: i have a question for senators out there really support mr. trump? just by looking, we have a lot of rino's left in our party. would you comment on that? i don't want to get you in trouble. guest: [laughter] i am not in the senate so it would be speculation for me to know how many of them sincerely support the president. i am in the house of representatives. the overwhelming majority of the

republican conference supports donald trump. the degree of support is may be somewhat different. you saw that when you saw the russia collusion hoax and then you saw the impeachment over the phone call to ukraine. really the shocking thing was that it took the president to ask, hey, shouldn't somebody look into this? and frankly, democrats wanted to impeach him for that. you saw on the republican break ranks on that. it wasn't a party logic thing, frankly, you saw the opposite. you saw geoff andrew from new jersey look at his party and go, what are you guys doing? i can't go along with this. he changed his party and ran as is a republican. president trump was supportive of jeff andrew and now he is a republican. frankly, if you look at ohio, that is a big part of why ohio is not viewed as a swing state anymore. agepresident won it by

-- eight points. people ohio looked at it and said, i live in america, i support law enforcement. i don't think boys should play girl sports. i think donald trump has done a good job of building a bigger coalition we do have people in our party who are pushing for the party to go a different way and i think we will continue to healthy debate. just like mitt romney, i am discouraged when i see people not be supportive of our president. i share your concern when i see some people do those things. host: becky is watching in burlington, kansas. independent. caller: good morning, representative davidson. i am a nurse. what i want you to understand is that we educate all of our

patients. we continue to educate, educate, educate, and the most important thing that we understand is that usetition gives people the it is repetition that gets the most understand -- important thing that we understand is that repetition is what gets people to understand. when we love our neighbor, we wear a mask. because we are trying to protect them. place to get rid of secondhand smoke in restaurants and things like that, yet we can't put in place the very simple thing of wearing a mask, washing our hands, and taking care of our neighbor as we take care of all the patients that come to us.

it is the very basis of what makes us human beings. guest: thank you for being a nurse, and thank you for the things you are doing to help care for others. better thann't say to love your neighbor as you love yourself. the only thing better is to love your god. you do those two things in the country would be in great shape on a lot of fronts. your premise is able are not doing these things, but the reality is they are. overwhelmingly, people are wearing masks. people's hygiene practices have improved. i am not sure everybody's diet has improved during this stretch, personally, i am up quite a few pounds. people do have -- there are people that question it, and i think when you put things out that don't fit with well supported arguments, that is where you kind of stretch it. when people say that the explanation of how and why a

mask is effective by preventing the particles from leaving your mouth and decreasing that, people understand it. but when you say well, the virus. when a virus comes into contact with these masks, the masks themselves don't actually stop virus particles. so people are pointing to pieces that are both accurate and saying, to what extent does it do it? broadly, the public has bought into the idea that, yeah, i am happy to wear a mask in some settings. but then when you look at, even with all the ppe, and you are a nurse, some hospitals and doctors offices won't allow family members to see one another. i talked with her grandmother who is a constituent of mine and has a three-year-old granddaughter. she was undergoing a diagnosis and treatment of what they considered cancer but only one

parent was allowed in the room. they were willing to wear whatever level of ppe. if the gift of the pe works, then why aren't you allowing families to be together? whether that is in the emergency room, doctors procedures -- you have the women going into labor where the husband cannot stay for the delivery of his child. no matter what kind of ppe you are wearing. i think that is something the medical community could really do a good job -- so i sent letters to every hospital and health network in our district and put pressure on the v.a., please reconsider your policies. it is undermining the support for requirements like wearing ppe when even in whatever level people are willing to use it, they are not able to still interact with their family members. host: let me share a story from a tweet from defense news -- acting secretary of defense and service secretaries were exposed to covid-19 after a civilian

tested positive. you can read that story if you go to a defensenews.com. we are talking to congressman davidson, republican of ohio. he won a special election in june to fill the seat of speaker john boehner. he is now serving in his third term. elizabeth in manage, connecticut. democratic collar -- in connecticut. caller: i would like to say to mr. davidson and everybody else who isn't on the front lines, i had to lose at 35-year career working for one of our major airlines the cause of covid, because of the potential risk. i speak with my coworkers still and they are also essential workers, airline employees, who are on the front lines. by a large, most people comply with the necessary requirements for safety. handful, is always a

and i find mr. davidson and perhaps others to be off that ilk wherebe of that they feel their personal rights may be infringed upon. we are collectively is society, and when one domino falls, it knocks down all the dominoes. my son works for a department store. he has been out there since march. all around him his coworkers are coming down with covid. it has to be from the customers. so if you refuse to comply with the very important safety requirement just because you feel that you don't like it, it canterbury, it infringes on your personal rights, you are infringing on the rights of others. sometimes we lose sight, of a forest in the trees can the thing. ofs is a pandemic unlike any us have seen in a lifetime.

what's the harm in just complying for one month? host: elizabeth, congressman davidson, i believe you said you do comply when you go to places. guest: i do. as even the caller testified the vast majority of people do. for someone who uses the word ilk, i feel like this people are closer to putting people in reeducation camps. i have had conversations with constituents in our district that frankly are pushing for radical approaches for people who do not conform or comply with what they think is the best thing. frankly, the contempt people have for one another is one of the big concerns i see right now, not just personally, but for their views. may be a little sensitive to the word ilk. when i hear people start using

that, it runs with all these screams that we get from people and it usually doesn't go over well. host: jonathan in cleveland, independent. caller: i am 86 years old. i am lucky. i had to take a citizenship too, right away. at 62 years. what i want to say is this, the kids say fire in a crowded place. public policy and public health has to reconcile with other people's rights also. you want to enjoy the freedom that you will not enjoy the freedom if you are dead or six feet under. so it is not an inconvenience. i am sick and tired of talking. --i were a founding father [indiscernible] i am sick and tired of these talking points.

there is no restriction. i don't want to use the colloquial language. politicians are polluting the air. this is not the country that i came to, sometimes i feel, but i don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. host: from dayton, ohio, a republican. caller: in the summer, all i heard was -- report. it is ready to go and we will put it out after the election. where is the report? guest: you are dead on with that , the concern about the durham report. for probably three of the president's for your term so far, the number one question i get is when is somebody going to jail? when republicans ask it, they want to know when comey and mccabe and peter strzok, some of these folks who committed crimes

in some other cases, whether it is leaking classified information, altering documents, giving false statements, things like that, when are they going to be held accountable and, frankly, when democrats ask it, they have their list of republicans they believe should be going to jail. the real concern is the problem with the department of justice. they have fueled this sentiment that there really is no accountability for the political class. standarduldn't be one -- there should be one standard, there shouldn't be one standard for the political class and one standard for others. frankly, there shouldn't be one standard for the trump administration and an and terribly one for a democratic administration. we have seen that at the department of justice, and i am durhamncerned that 's investigation was politicized from the get-go.

i don't really understand why there wouldn't be some prosecutions already. barrnk attorney general has given great testimony. speaker.reat public i have heard some of his speeches that are truly inspiring. but then when i look at the actions of the department of justice, as i say often, deeds not words. i am ready to see the deeds. we do for the good of the country have to get the department of justice to the point where the whole country trusts that lady justice is blindfolded and there really is one standard, and that standard provides accountability for people who break the law, even if they are in high, trusted positions, especially if they are in high, trusted additions like director of the fbi's, or top level field agents of the fbi. mccabe did commit a crime. host: diane in ohio,

independent. i have to ask you to make it quick because the house is gaveling in in a couple of minutes. caller: not a problem. i suppose my individual rights are also being taken away since i can't drive drunk. we do that because it endangers other people. we are in this together. i didn't vote for governor dewine but i am so happy that he is leading us through this and i wish our ohio representatives could support rather than waste time. thank you. guest: thanks for the concern. obviously, it's a false comparison to drunk driving for host of reasons. at the very most basic reason, let me just emphasize this, there was a law that was passed and the legislature set the level for drunk driving. 0.08.oved it from 0.10 to you got a new threshold and the happened because we passed a law. the constitution says every state will provide a republican

form of government. that doesn't mean we have a chief executive, call him a governor or whatever, selected for a term and decides whatever desire,e may that the legislator needs to be involved. i am confident that the governor, if the legislature agreed with him, he would've had public support. if you want to have something that has the effect of law, then you need to pass the law. that is one of the big concerns people have as governor. for a period of a week or two you may have an emergency, but deu can walk or ri a horse into columbus. eight or nine months with all exhibit of action? the idea that this is still a negligent circumstance where -- that this is still an existent circumstance where all power should rest with the executive

with no power of accountability. the legislature passed a law on that. i hope there is a new level of collaboration with the full legislature. host: congressman warren davidson we appreciate your time this morning. guest: thank you. host: the house is about to gavel in. life coverage here on c-span. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]