as i said, we are here to serve. if people want to contact us, of course we will be available. know, i amd, as you not a federal employee. but i understand the rules are such that confidential information needs to be capped with the with -- kept federal employees. i will make sure i look at that. otherwise, of course, i will be happy to be contacted, and asked lane what we are doing, as i am doing now to all of the public. >> are we about to tip in to the most intense part we have experienced of this pandemic to date? >> yes. on the one hand, that is true. when you say exponential, you mean the curve is very, very steep. if you look at the curve of what we had in spring, when it was dominated by the infections in

the northeast and part of the country particularly the new york metropolitan area, the curve was like this. when you look at what we saw in the southern states when we tried to reopen, the curve was also like this. right now, the curve is like that. it is going up at a very rapid rate. and you looked in a most every single day, in fact gives you another record. having said that you do not want people to get terrified. but you want them to understand that we can do something about that. by mitigation methods. and also, help is on the way. so we should not look upon this as a hopeless situation. and one of the things, when you get covid fatigue, which is understandable, that people just throw up their heads and say heck, we are not going to be able to do anything about it so let's do what we want to do, that is the wrong decision. because vaccines are coming. and they are going to be available relatively soon. if we can hang in there with the mitigation methods. and implementing them.

we can get out of this. there is this very sober message on the one hand. but there is a hopeful message >> monday, a live conversation with former president barack obama. he's interviewed by washington post opinions columnist michelle noris and mellon foundation president elizabeth alexander. former president barack obama, live monday at 11:30 a.m. eastern on book tv on c-span2. >> next 1979 mountain and the massacre of pol pot's killing fields along the taiwan, cambodian border. after that, prime minister's

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