suceding. >> the way it was reported in he press, it was clear he lost the election. he never conceded the substance of the argument. he continued to believe that the deal, as roosevelt framed it during the campaign, and began o work towards it after the election, represented a fundamental threat toward the american way of life. devoted himself to preventing roosevelt from being able to enact it. > contentious presidential transitions -- sunday night at c-span's eastern on "q&a." ntinues. law: emily benfer teaches at weight force school of law. wakeforce.orce -- joining us to talk about americans facing evictions, emily benfer. good morning. about comedy people in the u.s. face eviction right now? guest: it is a severe crisis.

around 14 million households are at risk of eviction. 18.1% of renters have told the census they are behind on their rent. we entered the pandemic in a housing crisis and covid-19 has accelerated and magnified to extreme levels. --t: when the pandemic began when the aid package passed, in that was an effort to prevent evictions. what has the government done in that regard? guest: the cdc issued a moratorium on evictions that was in effect on september 4. it expires on december 31. for prevents evictions nonpayment of rent but to be triggered by tenets -- but it has to be triggered by tenets. many tenants are unaware of

their rights and they have been implement and get in and consistent ways. it depends on what goes with it if you'll -- if you will receive protection under this. host: do some states have their own moratoriums and place? guest: 43 states had a state level moratorium in place. over the summer, the majority of them expired. we only have 14 state-level moratoriums left across the country. most of those are set to expire at the end of the year. ais new year could rein in housing crisis and instability as well as evictions. host: what with the cdc -- who makes the decision on whether that moratorium gets continued? guest: the cdc issued the moratorium under the authority of an executive order to prevent

if actions which are causing spread of covid-19. the cdc could extend that. we could have a 20 day cap before the biden administration goes into effect and they issued their own oratorio. -- their own moratorium. the thing to remember is that we have almost a three week gap for protection for renters. cdc moratorium went into effect, we saw evictions despite as much as we hundred 95% above historic averages -- 397 -- 395% above historic averages. we could see a catastrophe across the country as families are struggling to stay housed. host: after an individual or family is evicted, what is next? where did they go? -- where do they go? guest: they will try to stay out

of the shelter system, but many, residing in homeless shelters is their only resort. others end up moving in with friends our families. others are sleeping in cars or public places. anywhere they can find shelter. is problem with homelessness that it makes it impossible for individuals and families to adhere to the cdc protocol. , ifou are cap surfing you're residing in homeless shelters, you can't frequently watch her hands -- wash your hands. you can't wear ppe, you can't quarantine or social distance effectively. it increases covid-19 transmission and increases infection and immortality -- and mortality. determined that eviction over the summer when

comparing states that lifted their moratorium with those that didn't result in 133,000 excess cases and excess deaths due to eviction alone. host: emily benfer chairs the force19 ask force -- task for evictions for the american bar association. our phone lines, 202-748-8000 for those in eastern and central time zones. 202-748-8001 for mountain and pacific. if you have been evicted or face eviction, the line is 202-748-8002. creation ofd the this task force and what are you tasked with? guest: the american bar association formed a covid-19 task force when the pandemic started. the goal was to understand how laws could be harnessed to protect people and respond to

the pandemic. public health laws, housing law and so on. through surveys we determined that eviction was going to be one of the most severe challenges for the legal system and for people facing eviction. evictioncommittee on -- i am chairing the committee on eviction and we have tried to support them in their efforts. the american bar association created a pro bono network to provide eviction dissents across the country as well as a resolution on relief to ensure tenets and property owners are protected during this time. as well as to prevent the screening of evictions. host: in terms of the first line of defense or the first line of help for someone facing eviction, aside for reaching out to the management agency, who

should the contact? guest: if they are facing eviction or have received a notice, the best thing to do is to contact legal services organization. there are multiple aides and corporations across the country and in every state. you can find that information on theelp.org and calling local information line, 211 or311 -- or 311. -- it is in the interest to try to leverage those as quickly as possible. having applied for rent relief is one of the conditions for ,ction under the cdc moratorium or making every effort to do so. host: that eviction band is in effect through the end of this month. the headline from the associated press "despite the federal ban,

renters are still being evicted amidst the virus. any legal victory could be short-lived. the order is to expire december 31, just when a spike in cases reference to undermine the economy. many tenants over months of rent. advisory firms estimate that by january renters will owe as much as $34 billion." guest: princeton university has been tracking eviction filings during the pandemic in 26 cities. in just 26 cities, they have seen 150,000 eviction filings and that is with the moratorium in effect. the shortfall is estimated to surpass any five billion dollars -- $25 billion by the new year. this is on the property owner to withstand that extra debt. ownersority of property

are small property owners who don't have access to credit to cover nonpayment of rent. it is critical that congress include rent relief, especially retroactive rent relief so that we can prevent the eviction cliff that is coming. host: we will go to brett in iowa. welcome. go ahead. caller: this is a good program and i hope you do well. pray we get the package through. they need to help all of their american people, not just democrats and or publicans. minnesota,ilip in you are on. i am a landlord and i have been one for over 30 years.

i have tenants. place --f the laws in the minnesota laws are stricter. they know they don't have to pay rent, they have money coming in, i can't get proof of that because of privacy laws. they intentionally choose to not pay rent. i've been in touch with the governor's office, the city allocatedhey were $100 million back in july with the intent of having an avenue to go directly to landlords to prove money is being stolen from us. is down to $10 million and they are still not distributing it. the studies have been done. up to 8% of tenants are taking advantage of this. they already have bad credit with regard to the evictions

coming up. you know as a lawyer that is a bunch of nonsense. the pipeline starts with this number of cases, it is going to be a year and 2.5 years long to get to the courts. no one is getting thrown out. the only thing is that landlords are getting thrown under the bus and nobody cares about the landlords. host: emily benfer, your response. caller: i -- guest: i appreciate his comments. i think landlords and tenants are bearing the brunt of the economic downfall. there are situations in the tenant side and landlord side where people are not following the rules. on the landlord side, 90% serve it said they are seeing illegal

evictions. out.were forcing tenants i think that might be happening on the other side as well. most founders from landlords are the state level moratorium. in those cases, the judges have found that the >> the u.s. house is about to gavel in. members have four bills scheduled, including one to of foreign rsight companies'that are sold on u.s. and letting the u.s. mint make more coins to deal with the shortage of coins aused by the coronavirus pandemic. live coverage of the u.s. house here on c-span. nesota see recognition? mr. peterson: i move to suspend 4054. es and pass s. e