forma session that starts at 11:00 a.m. eastern. the article could be taken up for debate later in the week. this tuesday the senate armed services committee holds a hearing on civilian control of the armed forces. this hearing will focus on granting a waiver to retired army general lloyd austin. general austin left the military in 2016. a week from tuesday general austin will be in front of the committee for his defense secretary confirmation hearing. more hearings are expected in both the house and senate on the security situation at the capitol with the to be determined. the senate is scheduled to return to legislative business january 19. ♪ host: this was supposed to have

been a week long break in congress but house speaker nancy pelosi lesson i told colleagues to prepare to return to washington -- nancy pelosi told colleagues deeper te prepare to return t prepare to return to washington. meantime, the president is organizing a legal team as he braces for a possible second impeachment trial. your thoughts on the latest chapter of the story in the .ation's capitol the house is considering a second impeachment trial of donald trump. here are the numbers to call. ,emocrats (202)-748-8000 republicans (202)-748-8001, everyone else (202)-748-8002. you can also send us a text at (202)-748-8003. send a tweet @c-spanwj

and facebook/c-span is also another place. ted lieu, democratic member of the house from california, sent this update to the update on the story. we hit 180 cosponsors of the article of impeachment, he .rites we will introduce the articles of impeachment this monday during the house's pro forma session, a single article of impeachment. withoution usually held any legislative business. it is just a procedural matter they do, but items can be introduced on the floor and we expect this could happen tomorrow. 11:00 a.m. eastern and you can watch that pro forma session on c-span. nancy pelosi last night following a meeting on friday

wrote this letter. of officeake our oath we promised to the american people to protect our democracy. it is important that those be held accountable. this desecration was instigated by the president." she goes on to write, "what i am from members it is clear once again the times have found us to save our democracy." she used that phrase the first time around. "we will proceed with meetings with constitutional experts and others. i welcome your comments. i urge you to prepare to return to washington this week. thank you again for your patriotism, the intellectual resources that you are in the determination you have to see justice prevail. thank you for your friendship and leadership." that came from the speaker of the house last night in a letter to colleagues.

new york times headlines, on edge." dottie is on the democratic line. what is your reaction to the news? caller: in my opinion i think they should impeach the president and i have a reason why. host: ok. caller: everybody knows he did something wrong. child and the child keeps doing stuff that is wrong. it starts off as something little and you do not say anything about it and it gets bigger and bigger. before you know it they are in jail and you're are crying and moaning about, my baby, my baby, i did not raise him like that. if you do not stop people from doing things wrong, they're going to keep on doing it. host: what did you make of the speed of all of this? incident, this deadly assault on the capitol

happened wednesday. typically impeachment proceedings take quite a while to move through. caller: that is because usually they have to gather evidence. they already have evidence. they've got him on tape. host: ok. that was dottie from georgia. callingfrom darrell from caldwell, idaho. good morning. caller: good morningcaller:. i'm an independent so i do not owe my allegiance to the democrats or republicans, but i do know this. you have millions and millions and millions of people voted for donald trump and this time last year he was being impeached. these people get their anger out of control. look at all these things we have had happened just this year where other people were doing there rioting. the democratic was lacks on what they were doing -- lax on what they were doing.

if you go ahead and impeach the president, the lawyers are making lots of money and they will make lots of money the next four years because our country is not going to be coming together. everybody is going to be -- , out are 100 or 200 people of millions of people, who will lose their thinking and emotional control. how many people cannot control human nature? i do not agree with what took place, but at the same time i think the president is going to be out of office and why they want to grind the man into the independent,as an do not have respect for any party to be truthful. host: darrell, thank you. we will take more calls in a minute, but here's a short piece of the speaker, nancy pelosi, as

part of the 60 minute interview that she will be doing tonight. [video clip] >> who is running the executive? >> sadly, the person running the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president of the united states. it is only a number of days until we can be protected. but he has done something so serious that there should be prosecution against him. >> well, i gather the 25th amendment is off the table. as we pointed out, impeachment is very much on the to bow -- on the table. articles of impeachment are expected to be filed tomorrow on the house floor, 11 a.m. a pro forma session. if the speaker and her caucus decide to go through with it, possibly an impeachment vote on the floor of the house this coming week. we will see what happens.

josh one grove is a white house reporter for bloomberg news and he joins us by phone right now. how has the news of a second impeachment proceeding hit the white house so far? >> good question. we don't really know, directly, from the president. our reporting is that he was hold up yesterday at the white house, no public events. talking with a dwindling group of close advisors. they believe, though, according to our sources that this could be a political gift for him. that that is at least perhaps the silver lining they are looking at. that the democrats might be overreaching, particularly if it looks like there might not be much of a process or trial to this. they think it will galvanize support among the presidents followers for him if democrats push ahead with a rush to impeachment. you know, time will tell.

on the 25th, it really does not look like that's on the table at all. contrary to what pelosi is saying, vice president pence has shown absolutely no interest. the only signals we are getting are to the opposite of that from the cabinet. i don't think anyone should be expecting that to be entertained seriously at this point. host: we did read that the president might start the -- might be starting to put together a legal team ahead of impeachment proceedings. who is he turning to? that's also unclear, but we know he isn't turning to his white house lawyers. that,ming is a part of you are not a white house lawyer for the president as of january 20 and if this goes forward it could stretch past that time. mitch mcconnell has warned them about this. are reported out

there include perhaps alan dershowitz, perhaps rudy giuliani. rudy has been complaining that he is being censored along with other conservatives and like other conservatives he has taken to parler, another social media app that is considering retreated to after twitter made the ban. parler now has its own restrictions. it's sort of this whack a mole game of trying to figure out who is working for the president and talking to the president and how does it work publicly and if they are being d platform to. what were these last 10 days supposed to be like? we did learn that the president might travel to texas this week, might want to do some legacy type policy events. what is he going to be doing this week? guest: he's going to the border. they want to highlight the wall,

a rallying cry for his administration and his candidacy in the first lace. looks like they are also going to try to lean in on the fight over big tech. before the events of the last week the president was of the mind that tech companies were censoring conservatives. of course, liberals were complaining that it was long overdue for the tech companies to take down what they viewed as hate speech or inciting violence. he's going to lean into that this week. he is going to the border and we do expect other events. one thing to look for is who takes part in it. are the cabinet secretaries or vice president staying back from the fray? that will be a signal that they are trying to distance themselves from the president, but as i say i think that's kind of the spear -- the sphere they would be in as opposed to going further talking about the 25th.

host: we have also been reading, josh, about the potential for a large, final set of presidential pardons. do you have a sense of what might be on the table and will an impeachment proceeding impact that? guest: yeah, my colleague, jennifer, is doing great work on this. i don't think impeachment will affect it but we are expecting at least one more round of pardons. it's sort of arraigned as less certain when you go down the list. certainly it looks like some celebrities the president wants to harden, like lil wayne. then it gets into murkier territory about discussing , ivanka trumpdren and other senior aides. and then even himself. course an explosive issue and there's big disagreement about whether the president can pardon himself and whether trump will consider doing that.

oaken --the biggest open question of the last 10 days. we expect him to chew on that. either way.een much break pumping from some sources that he will go as wide as some people have speculated that he might. i suppose time will tell. the president, you know, he has the power to pardon anyone he wants. the question is, can he do it for himself? that -- other than a legal team, who is he drawing the most support from inside and outside the white house? guest: inside the white house, mark meadows remains as loyal as ever, however disappearing from public view. .ared kushner and dan skip reno really it's like a core group that has really dwindled down. several staff have already left, very public splits from the

white house, including people like's communications director, going on tv the last couple of ofs, condemning the events wednesday. the president has always only trusted those who are unfailingly loyal to him and at this point it's kind of a shrinking list. so, if you believe people like mick mulvaney, his former chief of staff, he might be in a bit of a feedback loop. the people that would push back on his mark out there suggestions are gone and instead he's got sort of hardliners whipping him up, people like rudy giuliani and sidney powell. host: josh, thank you a lot for the updates this morning. appreciate it. guest: thank you. host: back tomorrow your calls, the house considering a second impeachment of president trump and there's a headline here, senator roy blunt, republican of missouri, on a trump impeachment, "it's not going to

happen," alluding to the difficulty in the senate if it gets that far. let's hear from james in cleveland. thank you for hanging on, james. you are on the republican line, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. you know, the democrat party has to be the biggest a group in the united states. i remember when antifa rioters were trying to break into the white house, the democratic party in the media were cheering this on. they were rooting for this and laughing at trump, calling him a coward when the security had to evacuate him out of there. you know? the liberal left-wing media kept pushing this. all this talk about assault on our democracy this, democracy that. we don't have democracy, anymore. we have single party democrat communist rule. they control the courts, they control the media.

they control big tech, they control the house and the senate now. we are going to see communism for the working class people. things are going to go downhill. wages are going to go downhill. health care and taxes are going to go up and people are going to see what they voted for. it's unfortunate. thank you for taking my call. host: milton is on the line for democrats. what do you make of this news about the house considering a second impeachment of the president. to that last caller, i want to make two quick points. boo hoo hoo to the last caller. there's a young woman by the beverly beatty bragging about how she attacked the capital on youtube. my second point is this, donald trump went to the rally before

anything kicked off and he told them i want you to go down and cause mayhem and destruction. then at the end of the day he says he called out the national guard because these people were criminals. impeachededs to be for being two-faced. .ost: that was milton haleyville, new york, roberta, republican caller. caller: i am so upset. this president is for the people . i honor him. i adore him and his family. i think it's a disgrace. ,hey are all envious washington. the swamp. because of what he's done for this country. they don't recognize that? what is wrong with them? the: did you watch president's speech that so many are talking about? caller: yes, yes, he didn't incite this violence. i think that antifa and, you

know, was put in there. ,e didn't incite, you know this, this destruction. the people love him. we want him. as far as joe biden, my lord, i think he's just a figurehead. he'shat he's done, compromised by china and nobody says anything. i don't even by the papers anymore. i don't watch cnn. news.m turned against fox i watch newsmax. what is wrong with this country. host: all right, that's a call from roberta in new york. "the new york times" again, "barely 11 months after president trump was acquitted in a momentous senate trial, the nation confronts the possibility of yet another impeachment battle in the twilight of his presidency, a final showdown that will test the boundaries of

politics, accountability, and the constitution -- host: we have jay calling from madison, wisconsin. caller: this is j. i watched, sir.

houseyour thoughts on the potential action hear this caller: there's a lot to respond to so far. 16, 17, 18, 19 minutes, you could look at it as 25, 20 six minutes, something close to those lines. i appreciate and i think a lot of people on earth, including the united states of america, should appreciate how u.s. this segment off, these 20 minutes off. we need to take this back. we need to learn how to think here. , you wentetter through two quick. that sentence that you read, sir . what is she trying to say? all due respect to the speaker

of the house, not trying to be disrespectful. she'swhat do you think trying to say? caller: just give me a second. host: just go ahead and finish her thoughts and we can get others on. caller: thinking is important and you used the word thinking and you can finish my thought for me. thank you for c-span. host: going to move on, going to let someone else give their thoughts. christie, democratic line, good morning, michigan. caller: good morning, how are you. host: doing fine, how are you? caller: i am fired up, very fired up. here's the reason why. host: ok. caller: when trump was giving his speech, does anybody think for two seconds that it might not have happened if mike pence had done what trump wanted him to do? i don't know exactly how trump

expected mike pence to declare him the president, but that's what trump expected mike pence to do. now, let's say he had done that. it wasn't going to work because we had an election in trump lost. but if mike pence had done it, maybe they wouldn't have stolen the capital -- stormed the capital. but they did storm the capital and mike pence did follow the constitution and not only did they stormed the capital, they went hunting for mike pence, saying hang mike pence. this might be a little hyperbole here, but it was almost as if trump was putting a hit out on mike pence. but you know, all of that aside, if you really truly expected mike pence to declare him president somehow, that is a

person that is not of sound mind. i don't care if he's only got two days left in the white house . if he's not of sound mind, he should not be there. host: thank you for your participation in the program this morning. more of your calls this morning from -- more of your calls after this headline from the hill.com. gop lawmakers are wrestling with whether to stick with president trump between now and january 20 as members consider resigning or invoking the 25th. they remind us that lisa murkowski became the first republican senator to call in trump to resign saying that he has caused enough damage, "i want him to resign, i want him out: they talk about senator pat at the end ofng 2022. he talked about it on fox.

[video clip] >> i do think it disqualifies him from serving. he's got 10 days left, 11 days left, he's not going to serve after that time. i don't know if logistically it's possible or practical and i'm not sure it's desirable to attempt to force him out a day, 2, 3 prior to the day on which he's going to be finished anyway. i'm not clear it's the best path forward, paul. pushes forouse impeachment this week, that puts the ball into the senate's hands and i guess if the democrats force a vote, because they will be in control i assume, then, then you would have to vote, correct? >> yes, but what i don't know is what kind of procedural opportunities are rerun hired to give the president to mount a

defense, for instance. as you recall, he had a whole team of lawyers during the last impeachment and they had a whole case to make. are we required to do that? is that just something that we did last time that isn't required? obviously there isn't much precedent for this. the procedural things that i don't know the answer to because we have never been here. >> and you don't want to declare how you might vote. know what theyt are going to send over. one of the things i'm concerned about, frankly is whether the house would completely politicize something. i do think that the president committed impeachable offenses, but i don't know what's going to land on the senate floor, if anything. from pat toomey there, fox. more of your calls and a second. meanwhile, a small group of republicans who voted to certify the biden victory calling on biden to head off impeachment in the spirit of healing and fidelity to the constitution,

"i'm asking -- host: mitch mcconnell, current majority leader, soon to be minority leader, notified folks over the weekend that the earliest they could receive articles of impeachment is january 19, one day before the president leaves office. joseph is calling from bedford, virginia. good morning.

caller: i don't think they should impeach him. we had four years of peaceful protests and like they say in the south, what comes around, goes around. now we will have four more years of peaceful protests against the socialist and their nazi regime because everywhere it -- everything is there way or the highway. you, joseph. maryland is calling from crest hill. caller: good morning, c-span. first of all, i want to thank you for allowing people to voice their sentiment. most news stations they don't give you the opportunity. i have three things i would like to say. number one, the woman who said that it's going to be a communist regime, first of all, communism is russia, china, north korea. we are nothing like that.

and we never will be. , in the first two years of the trump it was allion republican. the house and the senate. what did they get done? nothing. tabled anything that came that was democratic. all they did was lower taxes for the 1%. and if you look at that tax bill that was passed? againstit'll be raised the lower class. in 2023 there will be another tax raise against the lower class. nobody looked at that. they only looked at what it was

for the rich. ok, number 2, 3, that woman who only watches newsmax now or whatever that station was. there's a saying, ignorance is just stupidity. by choice. she's choosing not to investigate. question and look and what has happened in the last since january 6. host: all right, maryland. lisa, calling now. hey, lisa. caller: hello, good morning. host: what do you make of all this? caller: i'm just going to say this, i was viewing high crimes and misdemeanors on wednesday. as an educator in the state of maryland, i didn't know what to tell my students last week.

them, coming from minority communities, have so many questions. you can't honestly answer them. i'm a black woman. i can't honestly answer them .ithout fear of losing my job we looked at a president on that stage hollering and yelling and screaming at crazy people to go to the capital. to take down your vice president who has done nothing but stand by your side. i don't agree with donald trump or mike pence in anything, but for donald trump to send those people there, and they are looking for mike pence? he should be ashamed of himself. he should be taken out of office and impeached so that he's not able to run for office again,

because he's talking about 2024. he needs to be disgraced for what he did on that world stage. the whole world is looking at us and we look awful. an hour left in this first part of "the washington journal" on this sunday. the house considering a second impeachment of president trump. articles of impeachment have been drawn up. we may well see this introduced on the floor tomorrow in the pro forma session at 11:00. we will see what happens after that. some of the opinions out there today, hugh hewitt writing in "the washington post writing that proponents of rushed impeachment are not interested in the fact that there would be no time for the president to evidence of contrary intent. "he isn't owed due process, it's sentenceal process,

first, verdict afterwards is on their minds host: hugh hewitt writing there. we will do this for just under 30 more minutes, getting your a second impeachment

proceeding against president trump.

sition of power. this moment calls for healing and reconciliation. that briefan watch tape on our website, c-span.org. more calls coming in. what do you make of the house considering a second impeachment goode president? caller: morning, thanks for taking my call. first of all, inciting a riot is a crime. attempting to overthrow the government from within is a crime. ill.resident is mentally many psychiatrists have said so. he needs to get mental help. that's what i've got to say and it's obvious that he's mentally ill and he needs help. thank you very much. from gary andar tennessee on the republican line. hello, gary. got a couple of points. this summer we saw a thug punk

cop basically execute a man in handcuffs. evennever heard one person tried to defend this cop. he's in jail. the democrats fanned the flames, looting. all the walmarts cleaned out and all these liberal states, burning buildings. they tried to burn down everything. this was the democrats. now we come to a few crazies that stormed the capitol building and you're going to blaine trump for that? most of those people did not storm that building. that heefferson said cannot imagine us keeping a republic without an armed revolution every few years and that is what you are going to get. you have got millions of millions of firearms and

weapons, ammunition. you've lost the police officers in this country. you threw them under the bus this summer. wait until they are impeached. wait until the democrats get impeached when angry people storm the house armed. it's going to get ugly. they had better leave it alone and they had better move on. host: that was gary from tennessee. springfield, illinois, we have a text. "dictators around the world are using the trump attempt at insurrection to show that american democracy does not work . impeachment and conviction will show that it does." jay, walmart, mississippi, good morning to you, j. caller: good morning, c-span. i would like to make a comment now. congress can go ahead and start , butchment on donald trump

it don't make any difference. it won't kill the make america again if they do sons because he has got that were ruined and these people that tried, these republicans that are so-called never trump's, they trying to stab him in the back. they just don't know it, yet, but they will pay a price for this. host: what's your overall take on what happened on wednesday? caller: basically, you had a few agitators that basically just took that on their own and done that. you know? if you have a large crowd like people,u got some democrat republican or what you are, there's going to be some

people that's going to try to start some stuff. now, the democrats have preached. they want to defund the police. how you going to do something like that. you've seen how easy something like this can happen. that's crazy, trying to defund the police. that's just my opinion. host: moving on to philip. pflugerville? you are on the democratic line. go ahead, what's your take on what the house might be doing this week. caller: they should impeach him. why do you allow your channel to use your medium to live without trying to correct them. [indiscernible] you should have corrected them. that's what i have, thank you. host: thank you for calling,

philip. is notites "if trump impeached and convicted he could run again in 2024. that must not happen." as we know on the article of a vote will get introduced tomorrow that would possibly get a vote in the house this coming week. set, we will watch that on c-span. this is what i'm getting to here, article one, incitement of insurrection, the constitution provides that the house of representatives has the sole power of impeachment and the president shall be removed from office on impeachment for or bribe --

severaley go on with other points here saying that it is consistent with other actions the president has taken. mike is calling from ohio. republican line, welcome. ok, good. my opinion is that the ones that are doing this are people that just hate donald trump. was what happened the other day a good thing? absolutely not. it was horrible. ,ut let's be honest about it donald trump never once told every ash anybody to do such a thing. all the democrats know that in

their heart, that he had no intention of this going that way, but it's just the way it went because you have people that just don't think when they are doing stuff. antifasome anti-fuzz -- in there and it was a bad situation that was horrible but let's be honest about it, the people trying to do this to donald trump, they hate him, they have always hated him and they will continue to try to do this to him and it's not right. i want to say one thing to donald trump, we are with you, man and i'm sorry you had to go through this for four years. it's sad. hang in there, buddy. [crying] it's sad. host: lakefield, illinois. todd, what do you make of all of this, beginning with what happened on wednesday? caller: i think it's also shenanigans -- i think it's all shenanigans and nancy pelosi

should be impeached for bringing this up, trying to overthrew our government until the end. host: anything else? caller: nope. host: all right, pamela is an upper marlboro, maryland. not far from d.c., on the line for democrats. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm absolutely for impeachment. this is the second time that we have beaten back white racist rebels. the first time was the civil war . instituting a riot is a crime. instigating a riot is a crime. attempting a coup is a crime. defiling federal property is a crime. they say that there were 12 molotov cocktails found in a truck of one of those mobs. had the coup been successful the second and third most powerful people in the world would have been murdered. not to mention all of the other

representatives that were in there doing their jobs, certifying the election, the electoral votes. to attempt that is a coup and a crime and he should be impeached yesterday. tomorrow is too late. get them out. jersey, george, what are your thoughts? caller: he should be impeached and if you look at what happened last month on twitter, telling everybody to come here on the ,ixth, it's going to be wild then january 20 him and his son, giuliani, they should be charged with that cop's murder. if you listen to his son, we are coming to get you, justice by combat with trump saying what he said. i feel bad for everybody that died but that cop was just doing his job and as far as i'm concerned, trump is 100% hot -- responsible for his death. host: you are calling on the

republican line? theyr: every time i call, asked me that. host: did you support impeachment the first time? caller: yes, we didn't even get the whole phone call. it was a summary. if you listen to the phone call that he made to georgia, just imagine the when he made to ukraine. host: can i ask if you voted for president trump? caller: no, i'm from new jersey. i've been following him for 40 years. anyone who has followed -- followed him, he's for himself and nobody else. he never has been. host: thanks for calling this morning. a simple majority would be needed in the house to pass impeachment, a two thirds vote in the senate would be required to convict. that's the whole question this morning, whether the senate votes to upwards of 17 convict. it never got that far. a question came up as well, can

the president be impeached after he leaves office. mitch mcconnell said they might not even get the articles until the 19th and couldn't even start a trial until the 20th but could something happen after? nbc news.com asked that question, can trump be tried in the senate on impeachment charges after he leaves office. some experts say yes and when you scroll down in the piece a bit it's a difference of opinion . things aren't crystal clear the law how it works. one group says the president can be impeached only while in office. "i tended to believe it is only ."r current officeholders according to a second group of scholars, "if the houseboats to impeach while the senate is in office, they can proceed to a trial even if the senate has left office and once the impeachment begins it may continue and i don't see any constitutional problems with the senate acting fast or slow."

,nd a third view, they write "the entire process can begin even after the president is out ." office, this from a widely cited law review article on the subject. they point out that no president has ever been impeached after leaving office, but that there is a precedent in other areas for other position where folks have left office in the past historically and have been been -- and have then been impeached. mary, fort washington washington, maryland, good morning. caller: good morning. -- four years, we people hello? host: we are listening. caller: ok. we have suffered for four years under donald trump.

to do thatot have anymore and yes, he did cause a riot on wednesday. a big riot. that was a racist riot. if i were old enough to see, it brought back what i learned about tulsa, what i learned about rosewood. trump has done nothing but spew damn years. four gone, i20 i want him want mark meadows impeached, his entire family impeached, i want mitch mcconnell impeached. these people have done nothing but damage, damage, damage to our souls, our minds, or physical being and financials. joe mansion, a democrat, doesn't want us to have $2000? i don't know the bubble that these people live in but it ends on january 20. we have the house, we have the senate, we have the white house and we are going to roll in do

something about racism for the first time in my lifetime. we are going to make everybody that calls themselves the new name of the ku klux klan, they are going under a terrorist watch and they are going to be dismantled and we are going to put them in gitmo, that's where they need to go. we want to end racism and that's a good start by making this country finally great. it's never been great. what did he say, make america great again? we need to make american normal for once. i would love this country for everybody to live peaceably. we will open the borders up, take care of daca. we are going to reverse everything that the orange man destroyed. have a good day. host: all right, mary. on to sue in michigan. what are your thoughts and reactions to what the house is considering? do you agree? caller: i don't agree with it. they are trying to distract from

the dni report that came out because that has some not very good news about it against the election. i think a lot of them committed treason and that's why they want to impeach him. .ost: ok thanks for calling, sue. "yes, congress should impeach opinions --her opinion piece from two well-known appear -- attorneys. "it would give them the ability to see move swiftly and disqualify him from future office holding --

host: another viewpoint there on all of this. frankie is in selma, alabama. host: hello, frankie. host:hello. -- caller: hello? host: you're on the republican line. what do you think? caller: i don't believe that there was no incitement, there was no reason for what happened on wednesday. he gave the people there exactly what he was giving them an every day he gave them the whole time. we don't need all of this hoo

haw about what's been going on. we need to work together to come together as one. there wasn't a coup. there doesn't need to be -- he doesn't need to be taken out of office at this late now. he's not losing his mind. there's nothing wrong with donald trump. there is plenty wrong with what's going on in our country and i have to say that. they should not have been in our capital. they should not have been beating down the doors. but there was other people there leading them on and everybody knows what's going on. it's all in the, if anybody would go to the internet and just look through it, they would find out like i did. but our president does not need to be taken out of office. he just needs to be left alone and everybody needs to back off,

take a whole breath of air and they need to quit all of this mess and just go on about our business and get our country back together. frankie, from alabama. lloyd, good morning to you. caller: good morning. thanks for having me. i don't even know where to start . ok, from the beginning of this presidency, you know, we have aren'tings that just normal. i'm not going to go there. i'm going to go to the capital. hillaryk obama or clinton, bill clinton, any of the thingse had said that trump said in sent the people down the street? i'm a black man in my 50's. they are going to take all four

or five of these kids to say that you were with them in withher and charge them the same murder or assault in whatever it was. i'm not understanding the law here. donald trump literally sent those people down there. i'm sorry, man. people can't see that? that's their fault. i don't agree with everything democrats say. i don't agree with everything republican say. but at the same time i have my own mind and i can think for myself. other people need to start thinking for themselves and stop this racist rhetoric. these people who are getting killed, let's do something to get together and just stop it, you know? wow,ord in my mind is that's all i can think of. that's all i have to say. you for calling. here's president-elect biden on wednesday after the attack on the capital.

[video clip] >> for nearly two and a half centuries we have kept our eyes on the common good is a people. america is so much better than we have seen today. watching the scenes from the capital, i was reminded as i have prepared other speeches in the past, reminded of the words of abraham lincoln in his annual message to congress, whose work has today been interrupted by chaos. that we shall nobly save or merely lose the last best hope on earth and went on to say that the way is plain, peaceful, generous, just. the world it followed will forever applaud and god must forever bless.

the way is playing here, to. that's who we are. it's the way of democracy. of respect. decency. honor. and commitment as patriots to this nation. notwithstanding what i saw today and are seen today, i remain optimistic about the incredible opportunities. there has never been anything we together.hen we do it today isawful display bringing home to every republican, democrat, and independent in the nation that we must step up. this is the united states of america. there's never, ever, ever been a

thing that we have tried to do that we have done together and not been able to do it. host: down to our last couple of minutes, last few calls here as we look at this headline, "democrats grapple with impeachment realities in the race to punish trump, several top democrats raise concerns that the early joe biden presidential agenda could be delayed for weeks if there is a trial. republican caller, missouri, thank you for waiting. solution have a good for changing the rnc. i think the rnc needs to be r&d, standing for democrats the same way as that and then this way the rnc will have the same democracy just like the democrats because this way people won't be discriminated against.

another thing, china, the amc movie theater, china has a stock in that. our movie theater in lawrenceburg, missouri, cannot open up because of that, a virus . covid-19 is a deadly virus in they kept putting people in the hospital and that's no fun. cases are going up every day. like for january 20, for joe biden to be sworn in and when joe biden is sworn in, that's my number one president for getting the job done. kamala harris, she could get the job done. that would make things much more getting us out, seeing the light, putting the violence back behind us.

joshua, texas,, independent caller on the other line. go ahead, please. good morning to everyone. i would simply like to say that i am in support of the impeachment process that the democrats would like to go forward with. capitalpened at the hasn't happened since 1812 and to put it simply, it was an american tragedy and should be seen as such. as it pertains to donald trump, i believe that this is not a political issue. this is simply a humanitarian issue. what happened was a tragedy and should be treated as such. it would be the most as not juste for us citizens, but for us as human beings to go forward with this

to prevent an individual such as himself, and i mean this with negative connotations, who is just simply, he's too much of a catalyst. you don't want an enigma or unpredictability residing in the oval office. you want consistency and you want trust and comfort ability. i just believe that this is just something that must take place and that it is a humanitarian duty that we do this and then return to normalcy. with, you know, with the politicians we have always been familiar with. that's my simple opinion. have a great day. host: all right, joshua, thank you for calling from texas. last call, thomas, democratic line, you get the final word for the hour. yes, hy, this is thomas. the bible says that if the blind follow the blind, they both fall

in a ditch. hello? do the math. they are both in the ditch. the police get them out of that ditch in they go to jail. boom. was thomas. thank you for everyone who called in the first hour of the program. this is the sunday edition of "the washington journal," january 10. when we come back we are going to turn our attention to the covid-19 pandemic and vaccination efforts. later, we will talk to jack goldsmith of harvard law school, talking about his new book on reforming presidential power. we will be right back. ♪ >> the votes for president of the united states are as follows.

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