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the restrictions on. that will be anything from indoor dining, to the workplace, to sports arenas, theaters, things like that. i don't know exactly which will come first, but the bottom line is, you will be seeing a clear, noticeable pulling back on some of the public house restrictions. -- public health restrictions. >> let me close with thanks. i encourage everyone to get vaccinated. also by reminding you once again that all you have to do is text years of code to 438829 and you will figure out how to get vaccinated, and we will be talking to you again on friday. thank you. announcer: this afternoon, president biden will give remarks on how his economic relief plan is combating the effects of covid-19. you can watch live coverage starting at 2 p.m. eastern here on c-span. announcer: today, to house subcommittees hold a joint
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hearing concreting rules that govern military, commercial, and scientific activities in space. live coverage begins at 3:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. online at c-span.org, or listen on the free c-span radio app. >> net review panel from facebook by facebook is like spec to to make the announcement sometime around 9:00 eastern this morning. if you don't get through in the first hour, you can call us then. we'll lell tell you a little bit about that board that facebook has assembled to make that decision. not just for president trump but in other cases as well. here's the reporting this morning of the "washington post." their headline, facebook and trump are at a turning point in their long, tortured relationship. on january 6, they write, as an angry mob stormed the u.s. capitol, president donald trump posted on facebook that his supporters should remember this day forever, quote, these are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide
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election victory is owe unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly and unfairly treated for so long he said in a post. in response, facebook did something it had resisted for years, banned trump's account indefinitely for inciting violence. twitter, youtube, and others, followed suit. the ban is the culmination of a long running and tortured relationship between the politician and the social media company. that relationship will hit a new inflection point on wednesday, today, when a facebook funded panel of experts will announce whether the social media giant must reinstate trump's account. the impending decision by the oversight board are less than one year old body that describes itself as an experiment in the regulation of online speech could be the most consequential decision ever regarding free speech on social media, according to experts. it could also at-er the way social media companies treat public figures going forward. that decision expected by 9:00, around 9:00 eastern this
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morning. 202-748-8002 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. and 202-748-8002, we'll play you some of the recent comments of mark zuckerberg, the founder and c.e.o. of facebook. let's hear first from president trump, former president trump recently on with sean hannity about the ban and what he calls cancel culture. >> you were canceled off twitter, can you imagine? canceled off twitter. canceled off social media platforms. now, you put out your presidential statements they go viral. people -- you know who misses you the most? the liberal media, the mob. they hardly ever see joe. there is nothing to cover there except covering when he falls down climbing the stairs. but, what about -- what is the answer? is the answer antitrust? is the answer ending section 230? is the answer donald trump starts his own twitter, facebook, instagram? is that something you are considering?
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guest: i think all of that. i am getting a big word -- >> every time i do a release it's all over the place. it's better than twitter. much more elegant than twitter. twitter is very boring. a lot of people are leaving twitter. twitter is becoming very boring. when i started with twitter years ago it was like a failed thing. concept. media, platform. it was failed. and it became exciting. i think that had a lot to do with it to be honest t became very exciting. and now it's boring and it's no good anymore. people -- host: the former president on fox news with sean hannity. and since then he has launched a blog post site. here's the headline from reuters, trump launches to post ahead of his facebook ruling on his ban. that ruling is set for -- to be announced at 9:00 this morning. let's hear from callers. joe first in indianola, iowa. hi, there, democrats line.
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caller: top of the morning, to you. host: top of the morning. caller: he should be banned. fool me once, shame on me. until me twice -- fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. him and the republicans, he's been guilty on everything they charged him with. he's had his accessors in the government, mitch mcconnell and the gang, let him loose. the man's a criminal. host: jerry, west virginia. republican line. caller: top of the morning. this is crazy. i was telling your screener a week ago i was a democrat. i have been a democrat all my life. and i have watched him. if anybody thinks that joe biden got 80 million votes, 12 million more than obama, they are just
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plain crazy. the democrat party has went crazy. host: you just decided to be a republican last week? caller: last week. i went over and registered republican -- i have been a democrat all my life. host: jerry, i am going to assume you voted for former president trump in the recent election. caller: yes, i did. gnatter of fact he's only the second republican i ever voted for in my life. i voted on the second term of ronald reagan. host: what about our specific question this morning about the returning the former president to facebook. what are your thoughts? caller: well, anybody can see why was he ever banned? there is no reason to -- it wasn't only trump. look at all the conservatives they banned. they are on a sweep. they are part of the democrat party, a right arm of the democrat party. that's all twitter and facebook is.
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host: jerry in west virginia, some political fallout from the january 6 attack likely for the conference chair for republicans liz cheney. steve scalise is backing elise stefanik's bid for house republican conference chair. she's campaigning in advance of liz cheney's ouster. this is a major development in the house republican leadership. from manu, stefanik's efforts to coalesce g.o.p. support behind the scenes has been bolstered. republican sources say, by mccarthy himself. the leader of the -- minority leader who has made it clear to members she would be a strong fit for the role. that likely change is set to happen possibly in a conference meeting next week. the house is not in session this week. out on their district work period. we hear from larry in california. democrats line. caller: good morning. no, he should not be reinstated until he says joe biden won fair
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and square. that january 6 attack, all that did was help russia make us look bad. the 2016 election, he stole it. he got away with it. he had two impeachments. the republicans seem like they do not like all people, just like trump. the big guy is crazy. it comes down to education. i.t. 21, information technology for the 21st century versus guns. it's sad, our country's sad. no, don't give him anything back. keep him out. host: what about for future leaders? if an independent, private organization, private company like facebook can make this decision about this former leader, what does it say about their ability to control the posts of future political and other leaders? caller: yes. if you attack our government, yeah, you should be banned from everything. if you say something about somebody, that's your opinion or
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say something about something, that's freedom of speech. but when you attack the government and -- we heard him on january 6 right there on the screen when he said i'm going to go down there with you. he never did. but these guys went to go hurt people. that was deadly force. he's lucky we weren't back in the days like kent state. they would have been shooting these people. host: california, independent line, andy. good morning. caller: good morning. i don't think that he should any way, shape, or form be able to be back on facebook. he's just -- he incited the most terrible situation we ever had. to see the republicans -- to hear the republicans first condemn what he said and then no more than a week later retract,
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it's an embarrassment to see -- i have never seen a trial where the actual jurors were involved or discussing the case with the prosecutors or the defense counsel. it was an embarrassment. to think that -- the trial was even -- was even legitimate, i mean really. i mean you could have had a baboon, a lama, and a gopher representing the president and he still would have won with how they just failed to give justice. host: the facebook oversight board will make their decision we understand this morning by
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around 9:00 eastern. we'll have that for you. back to the "washington post" reporting on the relationship between the former president and facebook. they write that for years critics asked facebook to ban trump, citing his frequent promotion of misinformation and extreme rhetoric. but the facebook chief executive mark zuckerberg long felt the public needed to hear what politician has to say as long as troubling comments fell short of violence. according to his public statements. he also said facebook shouldn't be in the role of making such consequential decisions and started to create plans for the board, oversight board in 2018. he was asked about the decision this time on january 6 to ban the former president from the cite and the recent house hearing at the end of march. here's mark zuckerberg. >> i can't speak for everyone else, tv channels, radio stations, other apps i can tell you what we did. before january 6, we worked with law enforcement to identify and address threats.
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during and after the attack we provided extensive support in identifying the insurrectionists and remove posts supporting violence. we didn't catch everything but we made our service inhospitable to those who might do harm. when we feared he might incite former violence we suspended the former president's account. many people are concerned that platforms can ban elected leaders, i am, too. i don't think private companies should make so many decisions like this alone. we need an accountable process which is why we created an independent oversight board that can overrule our decisions. we need democratically agreed rules for the internet. host: comments on social media and on texas. send us a tex 202-748-8003. a tweet from rick here says this about the liz cheney news. liz cheney tells the truth and g.o.p. wants her out. matt gaetz is on suspension of rape and he's on tour with the
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neanderthal looking women. g.o.p. has lost its way. liz in texas, do i believe in free speech. however you can't yell fire in a crowded room when there is no fire. the ex-president being a sore loser and still insisting the election was stolen from him is a lie against democracy. he's a sad little man who shouldn't be given a platform. i'm so tired of the lies. randy in michigan, facebook has a right to ban or allow whoever they like. as a private company. i would look at it as a company that is willing to put a fox in charge of the hen house then turn their back and say we had nothing to do with it. this one, yes, absolutely free speech. social media go hand in hand. if not they are guilty of censorship. they should fact check all democrats not just republicans. democrats make plenty of offensive and incendiary statements said william in middletown, connecticut. the oversight board, the board that will make that decision today is a recent creation of facebook. and from their oversight board
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site he they say the social media platforms allow people around the world to connect. while this create many opportunities to unite, it allows us to see things that divide. they say they come from different backgrounds and cultures and have different beliefs. this diversity lies at the core of of the indid he ever. we are committed to making principleled decisions binding on facebook about important pieces of content and issuing advisory opinions on facebook, content policy. go to oversightboard.com. read that. take a look at some of the members part of the board. we'll show you some as we go to jim next in highland park, new jersey. democrats line. caller: yes. thank you for taking my call. i, too, am in favor of the ban against number 45 himself. for obvious reasons.
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from the moment that he became president, and even before during the primaries, he proved to be a disgraceful candidate and subsequently a disgraceful president. of the united states. and because of his actions during the january 6 uprising, i call it uprising, insurrection and his inciting those who went to the capitol and stormed the capitol, he should be put on trial for treason against the united states of america.
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host: republican line, san diego. good morning to janice. caller: good morning. i have so much i'd like to say. i'm listening to all these democrat callers and all of their flat out bias. ridiculous about trump when they overlook maxine waters and all of the other democrats with all of their outright calling for violence and destruction and mayhem. and i don't hear anybody outraged about one thing that the democrats ever do. all the lies and the bait and switch mr. moderate joe biden and people truly believe that this man won this election? he couldn't get but 22 million viewers, 200 people to show up at his rally. he got 80 million votes?
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and people want to go there. you think that taking away someone's wife to -- right to freedom of speech is cool as long as it doesn't affect you. i have been put in, quote, jail over and over again because of my own personal thought and what i believe is true. and at the end of the day if it doesn't line up with the leftist ideas, they are putting no one else that i hear of in quote jail but conservatives. host: janice how long is the longest that facebook suspended your account? caller: 30 days. host: how did you get it back? what happens to get it back? how does that happen? caller: after 30 days they let you come back. basically you don't have to do anything. you just have to wait out your 30 days. you can go on your page and you can see what people are commenting. they tell you what -- i put up a comment the last time that they
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put me in quote, jail, i'm a african-american woman and i ask black america how do they feel about the bait and switch and how joe biden lied? and you have black leadership groups that are now coming out with how he used the black votes. but -- host: when they put you in this jail, do they say specifically because your post said something -- caller: exactly what they say. yep. they put up the post and then they tell you that this is not, quote, facebook -- it's against facebook rules. i read things on the liberal pages and think that come out of liberal news and so forth, for instance, lebron james going there with that police officer, that is an outright terrorist threat. you are threatening a police officer. host: let you go there. "washington journal" is right
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writhing about facebook jail. inside facebook jail, the secret rules that put users in the doghouse. facebook jail many users are serving time for infractions they don't understand. one was restricted after ranting about student dent. recent graduate posted anyone who is mad about loan cancellation was sad and selfish. sentenced three days without posting on facebook. alex, a freelance writer in brooklyn, got a similar ban after sharing a link to a story in smith sown january magazine about tribal new genie. a history teacher in oklahoma served 30 days after jokingly telling a friend, man, you are spewing crazy now. none of the three understand what they did wrong. if you use the term crazy, does that automatically get you banned, asked mr. barksdale. the "wall street journal" writes after the plight of users caught in facebook's system for adjudicating content has reinforced the company's reputation for policing of its
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platforms. the problem which has been mounting for years is increasingly acute as lawmakers an the public focus on the vast powers social media holders hold over the flow of information. read that story at wsj.com. carol in florida. carol, go ahead. caller: first time caller. thank you for taking my call. host: glad to have you with us. caller: thank you so much for taking my call. first of all a man by the name john paul sullivan from utah was a member antifa. he was the one who was paid by cnn, $35,000, to go to the capitol and start taking videos. he also was paid by msnbc. you can find it on the web. and nbc.
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i am banned on facebook also. and i think it's unfair because i thought we had freedom of speech in america. host: what was the reason they gave you, carol -- are you permanently banned? caller: they just said i said something that was not on facebook standard. something to that effect. i thought, gosh, i can't say anything. it wasn't even on my page. i liked somebody for what they said. and it was because of what they said that i got banned. host: do you think there should be no rules? they shouldn't have this oversight board? anybody should be able to say whatever they want no matter how true or false or incendiary? caller: any kind of incitement of riots, even on twitter, they
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have some pretty bad actions on there with b.l.m. and the antifa. they talk about where they are going to go next. and i was in oregon once in portland. and antifa was there with all black outfits and they had bats with nails and screws in them and they were hitting cars, windows, and breaking them. i thought, oh, my gosh, i never want to go back to oregon again because of that. host: good to have you as a first time caller, carol. this is from yahoo! finance, about twitter, witter c.f.o., no changes to our thinking on trump's account. they say that don't expect real donald trump account on twitter to be back in action any time soon. there has been no changes to anything we shared in the past around the former president's account. said the c.f.o. on yahoo! finance live on january 8 this year twitter famously handed out a permanent suspension of then
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president trump's widely followed account. the decision came in the wake of the uprising on little capitol hill which many believe was fueled by trump's comments on twitter. the c.e.o. and founder of twitter is jack dorsey, he, too, was part of that house hearing at the end of march and talked about how twitter handles the -- how they handle content on their site. >> we believe in free expression. we believe in free debate and conversation to find the truth. at the same time we must balance that with our desire for our service not to be used to sew confusion, division, or destruction. this makes the freedom to moderate content critical to us. our process to moderate content is designed to constantly evolve. we observe what's happening on our service, we work to understand the ramifications and use that understanding to strengthen our operations. we push ourselves to improve based on the best information we have. much of what we are likely to discuss today are entirely new
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situations the world has never experienced before, and in some unique cases involve elected officials. we believe the best way to face a big new challenge is to narrow the problem to have the greatest impact. disinformation is a broad concept. we needed to focus our approach where we saw the greatest risk if we hope to have any impact at all. we chose to focus on disinformation leading to offline harm. three categories to start. manipulated media. public health, and civic integrity. many of you will have strong opinions on how effective we are in this work. some of you will say we are doing too much in removing free speech rights. some of you say we are not doing enough and end up causing more harm. both points are reasonable and worth exploring. if we woke up tomorrow and decided to stop moderating content we would end up with a service very few people or advertisers would want to use. ultimately we are running a business. and the business wants to grow the number of customers it
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serves. enforcing policy is a business decision. different businesses and service also have different policies. some more liberal than others. we believe it's critical this variety continues to exist. forcing every business to behave the same reduces innovation and individual choice and diminishes free marketplace ideals. host: president trump's account on facebook was banned on january 6 for comments made on that day. the facebook board will announce today their decision to reinstate or continue the ban on the former president. that announcement expected around 9:00 eastern this morning. taking your calls and comments. should former president trump be reinstated to facebook 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. others, 202-748-8002. fallout continue from the january 6 attack. this is "the washington post,"
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wisconsin soldier the fourth service member charged in the riot. a soldier in the wisconsin national guard was charged monday in connection with the capitol riot january 6, becoming the fourth service member linked to the violent attempt to thwart the certification of joe biden's election as president. abram an associate were arrested monday in wisconsin and each charged with four counts related to the capitol breach. including violent entry or disorderly conduct and entering restricted spaces according to the justice department. markofski is a private first last listed in the army national guard. he is an infantryman assigned to the first battalion, 128th regiment. the four service members facing federal charges in connection with the capitol riot are all part-time troops. your thoughts on social media. you can send us a text, 202-748-8003. one from james in walker, louisiana who says this. freedom to criticize government
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is the reason the founders gave us the right to free speech. your callers would be more comfortable in soviet russia. this one says if facebook continues to ban republicans will cry cancel culture, that must not apply to what mcyarte is doing to cheney says tim in ohio. tim in kentucky says lies are not free speech. the former president is not a regular citizen. his words have consequences. people follow dangerous to let the lies -- people follow dangerous to let the lies continue. steve in fort pierce, florida, says if to incite to cause societal and governmental chaos, facebook should ban itself. it's a communications network for destructive protest, hypocrisy. sam in wildwood, georgia, former president trump should absolutely not be reinstated to social media. he abused his right to post and would only go back to more lies and hate speech. we all had enough of that. in lynchburg, virginia. next up is richard on our democrats line.
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caller: yes. host: go ahead. caller: how you doing. host: fine, thank you. caller: i don't think president trump should ever be allowed to do anything concerning the government since he breached, him and his followers breached the capitol. that's just a disgrace. he ought to be outlawed for doing that. we need to get on -- we need to get off of trump and on to america because we got a lot to do. america's in pretty bad shape. we need to all come together, democrats and republicans, and for god's sakes get off all this talking about trump here and trump there and forget him and we need to get on with america and straighten that out.
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there are so many things that are wrong in america that we need to go on and fix. we can do that. we are a democratic society. we can fix things. regardless what side of the aisle that we are on. we need to shake hands with each other and get on with the program of fixing america. and get off all this crap on tv and all about trump this, trump that. just forget him. we need to get on with the america. that's all i got to say. host: i appreciate that. thanks, richard. to michigan, debbie, independent line. caller: hi, i believe mr. trump should be banned. he's spreading lies and keeps fueling this fire. it's not going to go away because he keeps spreading lies. if he can speak truth, then,
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yes. but not lies. thank you. host: massachusetts, andrew's on the republican line. hi, there. caller: good morning. first thing is, yes, donald trump should be reinstated. no one should be banned off these platforms. they are public. and if i'm not mistaken i do remember joe biden saying ed he'd like to take donald trump out behind the wood shed. and i recall maxine waters talking about going out in the streets and actually promoting riots. not promoting a protest. she definitively said she wanted people out there angry. now, how in the world is this country at the point where we are saying donald trump should be silenced? we have tv and video games with shooting violence all over the place. if we want to help people and stop violence, let's stop ridiculous video games. i'm 42 years old and i grew up playing nintendo and atarry. are we real -- atari.
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are we really at the point where everyone is playing shooting games wearing a bunny outfit. that's where we stop violence. not donald trump. thank you. host: p.a., john on our democrat line. caller: i think it's ridiculous to ban the president of the united states like the other caller said. if you're not going to ban democrats like maxine waters and lebron james and all these other -- -- ayatollah khamenei sit there and say death to israel. you don't ban them. i want to know when the "wall street journal," c-span, and all you rest apologize for lying to the american people saying brian sicknick was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher. that's a big lifmente it's not a lie. i have seen it. there were widespread fraud in this election. they know that joe biden didn't win. there is no way they got 80
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million votes and beat bram and hillary clinton. -- barack obama and hillary clinton. that's why the people are mad. james o'keefe from project veritas exposed all this with cnn they banned him. it's nothing but communist russia. it's nothing but state television. they want people to conform to this president and his lie that he won this election. and you know that he didn't. everybody knows he didn't. i don't know why we keep playing this game that joe biden's our president. he's not our president. he did not win legitimate. he's an illegitimate president. host: question for you this morning, should president trump's facebook account be reinstated. the decision will be announced by the facebook board today around 9:00 eastern. here's reporting from vanity -- "vanity fair" and the broader look at flicks and big tech, ron desantis, josh hawley are trying to get a 2024 leg up by
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attacking big tech. they write in this piece that shortly after donald trump's major social media accounts were banned, punitive measures enacted in response to him encouraging supporters to storm the u.s. capitol, florida governor ron desantis made his stance knows. the big tech oligarchy is a clear and present danger to free speech. now his state is on the verge of passing a bill he proposed that would fine social media companies for willful -- quote willfully deplatforming political candidates. the bill which passed the house and senate in florida last week in which desantis, seen as a 2024 presidential contender, is special the to sign would dole out penalty of $250,000 a day for statewide candidates, and $25,000 a day for other candidates. here's governor desantis talking about that legislation. >> there wasn't a state in the union that ran a better election than florida last year, we still saw on the national scale how articles, candidates, and
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content had the thumb prints of this big tech executives all over them. look no further than the last several months of the election as coordinated, calculated efforts were undertaken to advance an increasing evident political agenda of the big tech companies. the problem is these companies are playing a significant role in the advancement of issues and candidates but do so without recording many of their efforts for what they are, political contributions. if i were to give something of value to a candidate or political committee, it would be a contribution. but big tech has been manipulating news content and designing algorithms yims to give the upper hand to their candidates of choice. they do so scot-free. again, euphemistically called content moderation. i think it's more political manipulation. that's why in florida we'll take action -- aim at those companies and pull back the vail and make sure these guys don't continue to find loopholes and gray areas to live upped the law. under our proposal a technology
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company deplatforms a candidate for elected office in florida during election, a company will face a daily fine of $1200,000 until the candidate's access to the platform is restored. again, any floridian can deplatform any candidate they choose. simply unsubscribe. it's a right i believe belongs with the citizen. host: some florida politic news, governor's race, "new york times" reporting democrat announces challenge to desantis in florida, representative charlie chris, democrat of florida interert the race, becoming the first challenger. republican who raised his profile by shunning lockdowns during the pandemic and a leading contender for his party's presidential nomination in 2024. charlie chris served as governor of the state -- ran as a republican in 2006. now running as a democrat. he's currently a democrat member of the house of representatives. our question for you this morning, should former president trump be reinstated to facebook.
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that announcement will be made later today by the facebook board. here's the poll @cspanwj if you want to post your thoughts. you can participate in the poll. here's where it stands. so far those saying yes, 26% or so. and 73.1% saying no. the former president should not be reinstated to facebook. richard's in west virginia. st. al bans, west virginia. republican line. go ahead. caller: can you hear me? host: i can, go ahead. caller: my answer is i really don't care. i think there is a bigger issue here which is the fact that especially from the democratic side, these companies are being pressured to decide what is true and what is not. and this is essentially they have become government agencies and the government is saying what the truth is. read 1983 and then you'll see
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where the government is telling the people what the truth is. and this is a very dangerous thing for this country. as far as these facebooks and twitters and all that stuff. i think they need to be treated as platforms. that's how you call t they need to be broken up the way at&t was back in my lifetime. they need to be broken up. quickly the january 6 thing, that's terrible. it was nothing compared to the riots that were insurrection that took place all over this country, cities burning, people's lives ruined, 20 to 40 people killed. $2 billion to $4 billion worth of damage and the democrats are going about the january 6. which was a few people. they covered it the same way they covered the other riots, they would have said the january 6 thing was --
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host: hannah in louisville, kentucky. nanna, louisville, kentucky. democrats line. caller: good morning. i want to speak with opposition to some of what you're doing. i hope you give me an opportunity. as i see we are talking about the former guy, he's not the president anymore. the president of the united states of america is joseph r. biden. he's the president of the whole of america not part of it. whether they like it or not. when the other guy was the president, i had to accept it. he was my president. i have an issue with c-span because c-span is a gatekeeper. every time you talk about the former guy, then you owe the same amount to barack obama. barack obama was the president, he's building a library in chicago. why don't we hear about that? i watched the show on frontline last night about the issues in
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east africa. why don't you cover things like that and how the last four years under the former guy they had nothing to say about all of the oppression going on in east africa. i am getting more and more disappointed with c-span because c-span is -- this is propaganda. with the other guy i guarantee you need to have a couple of scholars on there to talk about how the george orwell's book "1984" relates -- host: we hear your criticism. and welcome your criticism. i will say that the reason we -- we cover public policy of all sorts. we certainly cover a lot of free speech issues. this is a major free speech issue. thank you for your call this morning. to david, independent line in oakdale, new york, independent line. caller: good morning. i think that trump should never have been kicked off facebook. i don't think facebook or
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twitter should ever have the power to censor anybody. it's a public forum. and if people want to fact check what people are saying, they should do that. and i don't think trump was lying about anything. i think he tried to bring out a point. and i think if the democrats really want to buy votes and allow certain people to vote for them and nobody's common sensors them -- censoring them, i think trump should be allowed to get votes any way he can. it was good for the goose it was good fored gander. if that's how politics is being being played, what does it have to do with facebook or twitter? host: for what purpose does page this morning of "usa today." biden aims for 70% vaccinated by july 4. the president wanting 70% of u.s. adults to have at least one covid-19 shot by july 4. a goal he announced on tuesday. with steps to vaccinate harder to reach populations in
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preparations for vaccinating teenagers. "usa today" writes about 56% of adults have received at least one shot. they also write in here that the u.s. actually may be closer to a vaccine tipping point. they say it may not take true herd immunity, writes "usa today," to see dramatic drop in covid-19 cases. some researchers say an additional 30 million to 40 million first shots could be enough for the united states to reach a vaccine tipping point and containment of the disease caused by coronavirus. some comments on social media on our question this morning about the facebook future for former president donald trump. donny in louisville says this. president trump should have free speech rights. told league protestors to go to the capitol and peaceful let your voices be heard. not storm the capitol. should be re-established on facebook. this one tweets, what were the specific comments trump made on january 6 that got him
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permanently banned from facebook? seems like social media just can't tolerate free speech. and can't tell the difference between unpopular speech, which is protected by the first amendment, and inciting violence. james, independent in new mexico says, once he serves his time and if he is rehabilitated, then, sure. but his words should be carefully monitored if he gets the privilege. maggie in fresno, california, if everyone would stop using facebook, twitter, etc. for a while, they would change their minds. no freedom of speech except for liberals on motion social media hit their pocketbook. i have not been on for months and don't miss it. in louisiana, tony, republican line. go ahead. the chair: hi. good morning. host: good morning. caller: i'm not opposed to our current president, joe biden. he was fairly elected. and i go along with that. but i did not -- i was not a biden supporter. i supported donald trump.
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i still think they did dirty, jack dorsey need to remember that it was -- if it were not donald trump, he wouldn't have have the users he has. he made that service famous. he was the most famous twitter user in history. he took that service when it wasn't that popular and made it popular. and to take your number one twitter user and treat him the way they did is disgraceful. and dorsey ought to remember that. they should get on their knees and thank donald trump and ask his apology for how they mistreated him. it's bad enough that he was a good twitter user. he was the president of the united states. how you could do that to any former president or current
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president is just unspeakable. host: tony in louisiana. billy long, congressman from louisiana, on the oversight energy and commerce committee i should say, their hearing in late march, asked facebook's mark zuckerberg if he would stand by the decision of the oversight board on whether former president donald trump should be reinstated on facebook. >> as a way to help hold facebook accountable. they are currently looking at facebook's decision to remove president trump's facebook account. if the oversight board in terms of facebook should have left president trump's account up or leave it. >> congressman, we'll respect the decision of the oversight board. and if they tell us that former president trump's account should be reinstated, then we will honor that. host: back to your calls and comments. to columbus, georgia, on your
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democrats line. kenneth. you are on the phone. are you on the air with c-span. you're on "washington journal." caller: thank you. i appreciate you-all having me on the phone. listen, i believe that donald trump should be reinstated. i believe also that words have power. i believe that there's always three sides to any story. and that's your side, my side, and the truth. the problem of it is a lot of people get distorted with that. and i agree with the previous caller, couple of calls ago, who says we need to work together. and i also believe that he should be monitored. but at the same time everyone has rights for free speech.
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that's my comment. host: ok. appreciate that. mack in tallahassee, florida, good morning. caller: hey, good day there. host: you're on, go ahead. caller: ok. thank you for allowing me to speak this morning. i believe that speaking for donald trump, i think as a businessman, since twitter is a business and facebook is a business that he should really not even want to be part of that business. and i facebook, if they are going to kick him off in the first place, that donald trump would be the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. what's going to stop him from kicking him off again? pretty much it. host: ralph in las vegas.
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on the republican line. hi. good morning, ralph in las vegas. you with us? we'll hear from jean in detroit. democrats line. caller: good morning. i just -- i just want to say that i think that he should not be reinstated. and there are several reasons. first, he is an enemy of the state. and more importantly he's an enemy of the word of god. he has all the characteristics of the devil. he lies, he's full of pride, he demonizes people that he feels are not loyal to him. and he knows that he shouldn't be deceiving people. i feel that we really need to reinstate the sabbath day as a holy day. where no businesses are open. and people can learn what the word of god says.
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we need to pray for spiritual leaders who will truly teach us. thank you. host: ahead of the expected announcement today by the facebook oversight board, the former president announced a new blog on his cite. writing about that is "politico" this morning in her they hadline, why trump's new blog could lead to more social media taketowns. they say former president donald trump launch add new blog tuesday to get his message out to users. a task that's been complicated by his bans from facebook, 2013, and other social media platforms. the move could actually also lead to more takedowns of his remarks online. most major platforms prohibit users from circumventing their suspensions by turning to alternate accounts to put up posts. those rules prompted twitter and facebook to take action earlier this year against post these said sought to skirt around trump's january suspensions, including ones by his campaign contract and his daughter in-law laura trump. now trump has launch add webpage
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making it easier for users to post his remarks verbatim to both facebook and twitter. it could lead to more run-ins with the social media policies sharing content from trump's new site from the desk of beyond j. trump is permitted as long as the material does not earwise -- otherwise vie light twitter rules. chris on independent line. go ahead. caller: hello, how you doing this morning. host: fine, thank you. i -- caller: i personally think that donald trump is not a devil. he's not -- he's not like evil or nothing like that. i mean if he didn't give a crap about this country, he wouldn't have stepped down from his trillion dollar company to be able to, you know, run for this country and stuff like that if he didn't care. that's all i got to say pretty much.
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host: jeffrey, woodbridge, virginia. next up. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. to answer the question, my opinion is no. this isn't about free speech. it's about speech that is damaging and incliting -- inciting as we saw on january of. i think -- 6. i think more importantly people talk about the first amendment and free speech. the first amendment protects congress from making laws against free speech. those rights are not absolute, either. the supreme court put limits on those. you can't scream fire in a crowded theater. things like that. and also you shouldn't be able to incite violence. that's exactly what we saw on january 6. and now you have -- you just mentioned it, trump launching a new blog. obviously he has the ability to speak. he can go on fox news. can he go on oan or any of the other cites sites and say anything he wants.
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people who advocate free speech also don't talk about the second part of that, which is accountability. they don't want to be held accountable for whatever they want to speak. you talk about things like cancel culture, look at liz cheney. she's being canceled by the republican party because she doesn't endorse the big lie. the republican party is really in danger of -- if they are now choosing to believe things like the big lie, that this election was stolen. like you had a previous caller say ridiculous claims by project veritas, which is a have i particular cue luss outlet that no one should believe, this is the state of the country now. it's a litmus test for republican members of congress and the senate. and even state and local officials. if you're going to endorse the big lie that the election was stolen, i hate to break it tourks it wasn't. it was a free and fair election. even trump's cyber security force and d.o.j. both said it, then you can't run for office.
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this is scary territory that we are wading into where people are endorsing lies over election results because they don't like the results. host: that's jeffrey in virginia. mentioned liz cheney reporting this morning that the g.o.p. conference chair could be challenged next week by other republicans with reports that both steve scalise and minority leader kevin mcy are backing elise stefanik in that potential matchup next week in the republican conference this morning. this morning on cnn brianne why tweeting this, just like liz cheney, i believe in telling the truth. georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan says, any republican talking about the election fraud issues that have been debunked is not leadership. it only shows you are able to take commands from donald trump. rich in marion, ohio, on the independent line. go ahead. caller: yeah. great conversation. i think as we think about free speech and lies, it gets really
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interesting on being able to keep our doctor or health care costs are going to go down and whether they should be protected as free speech. if they lie about it. it seems like different presidents have our country first and some don't. it seems like we try to protect our country and incite riots. got to remember 9/11 was hit two times, first with trying to take the building down, and we caught them. second time they won. third time right now we have a president that's inciting riot by letting illegals come in our southern border. that's illegals was what we got trouble the time 9/11 happened. i'll hang up and listen to your answer. host: lawrenceburg, missouri, is next. we hear from howl. caller: yeah. this is wilhelm. i just want to let you know that donald john trump, people need
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to stay away from fox news and they need to stay off there and stay off there then we will have -- we will be on the right side to listen to listen what people have to say. biden, he doesn't lie. trump, i know this is freedom of speech, also i like that coffee cup. c-span. c-span is number one. host: thank you so much. i think you can go on our website -- i don't know about that one but you can buy a number of our coffee cups at c-span.org/shop. you can find it on the website. the conservative social media site partlyer was reinstated back in apple. by apple. apple reinstates parler the app after review.
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a parler said it worked to put in place systems that will better detect unlawful speech. a tweet from senator ted cruz last night. the senator having dinner with the former president. a great dinner tonight with president at march alaga, he's in great spirits. we talked about working together to reretake the house and senate in 2022. darell in new york, democrats line. caller: yes. i say no, that they should not reinstate him. i totally agree with jeffrey from virginia. he absolutely, i said no, did you get that? he lied thousands of times. he incited that riot on january 6. and all those people supporting him, do they realize all the money they are sending to him he's pocketing it.
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he never gave anything away. he's such a failure it just drives me crazy that the people still support him. especially congress members and senators. i guess they do not love this country. host: this is ravel in south haven, massachusetts -- excuse me, mississippi. go ahead. caller: yeah. i say no. but there is a part of me that asks the question, isn't that why he lost this election bigtime? bigger than anything that they expected? exactly. because he's running his mouth. let him talk. he ain't got nothing to say. no one believes what he said. the majority of the american people know who he is. what he is. why he is what he is. let him talk. that is exactly why the turnout
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against republican party and donald john trump was so huge. let him talk. he's an idiot. so what. let him talk. like he got something different to say than he used to say. that's it. host: an opinion piece in the "washington post" by david ingatius. russia's plot to control the internet is no longer a secret. russia's campaign to control the internet isn't just a secret intelligence gathering, it's a goal proclaimed by russian president putin as a key element of the kremlin's foreignpolicy. read more at "washington post."com. ben in chester, pennsylvania. on our democrats line. go ahead, ben. caller: i say no, he should not be let back on the air with facebook. nor with any other legitimate network because what he's saying is sputing violence and
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anti-democratic feelings around the country. our country is in worse shape than i ever seen it before. i got a criticism about c-span. c-span is a great network. giving people choices what to say. but if you start letting people speak violence like donald trump, you might as well let white superiors come on like ku klux klan, the bugea lao boys. even the black panther party organization. you going to let them on because they know what they project. and c-span was one of the great -- it still is. one of the greatest network where people can get on and speak their opinion. but not when they saying stuff like these other organizations. sputing things against race and other people culture, black and jewish people.
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c-span, you are a great network, but you will lose that ability that you have by letting these people come on and voice opinions that they recite what trump is sputing now. we will e lines and hear from you and hear -- about the facebook oversight about whether they will reinstate former president trump. that announcement expected here in about 9:00 eastern this morning. (202) 748-8000, the line to golf democrats. republicans, call (202) 748-8001. for independents and others, (202) 748-8002. as we hear the news, we will pass that along to you. a headline from the washington examiner today, we will call this with an update cheney can be ousted from gop leadership next week. there has been news on that this morning.
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