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on new guidance for wearing masks. >> does that concern you your own party leadership subscribes to a former president who, in your words, is still pushing, the big lie? >> well it is what it is. we all run our own races and have -- for me, i have never been afraid to be for or against a particular president, regardless of party, in trying to get things done, that has noise been my mission. and i know as you look to the future, we have to have some of that independent voice, particularly from purple states or purple districts. cannot be a rubberstamp. what works in southwest michigan is entirely different than what happens in plano, texas. >> i think the reason a lot of our colleagues got frustrated was effectively she kept demanding everyone else start apologizing. she r