district was ransomware attacked years ago. it was a pretty paltry amount they were required to play. -- to pay. since then, the amounts of gone up. they are outsourcing some of the technology. and lest we get more serious about our defense, which has to be number one, also our offense, we will see more of this. >> what is the answer? why have you not sanctioned russia for poisoning alexei navalny? are more sanctions coming? mr. sullivan: first, i think it is important for your viewers to understand that we have sanctioned russia for the visiting of alexei navalny. we did not just do it ourselves, we rallied european allies in a joint effort to impose costs on russia for the use of a chemical agent against one of their citizens on russian soil. we are preparing another package of sanctions to live. we have shown along the way that we will not pull our punches.

whether solar winds or election interference or navalny, when it comes to responding to russians activities. the president also took the extraordinary step of signing a new executive order that took standing authority when it comes to sanctions for russia's activity. we will take a backseat to no one. it will come as soon as we have developed the packages to ensure we are getting the right targets. we do that, we will impose further sanctions with specter chemical weapons. joining us from massachusetts is chris matthews, his newest book my life in politics. guest: happy father's day. big day for all of us. host: what did you learn about chris matthews in writing this? guest: life as a way of going around, what goes around, comes around.