tv Washington Journal Katherine Tully- Mc Manus CSPAN June 28, 2021 11:42am-12:02pm EDT
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the $715 billion surface transportation and water infrastructure package, separate from the larger infrastructure deal reached last week. watch live house coverage on c-span. the senate is adjourned through the fourth of july, their next votes are scheduled for july 12. host: this is catherine tully mcmanus, staff writer for roll call here to talk about the week ahead in congress. good morning. in our previous segment we were talking about infrastructure, can you highlight some of the action going on on that front? a massive, over 7 million infrastructure package the house committee passed out of committee a few weeks ago. this is a massive bill that while it was split along party lines in the committee, we could
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see a similar split on the floor. this is a more traditional infrastructure package. it is the kind that republicans want and are distant in the are not a lot of add-ons or tweaks that republicans wanted to see in committee. they considered hundreds of amendments overnight a few weeks ago that got contentious and lasted into the morning hours. this will be a shorter debate on the floor, but we will see is some of those issues that we have been talking about a larger package. this is almost like a test balloon to see how infrastructure talks may proceed . host: for those republicans hesitant, what is the hesitancy? guest: on the larger issues of infrastructure, there is the divide between what has been
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traditionally considered infrastructure, roads, bridges, and broadband now agreed to and things like childcare, social infrastructure allows people to get to work and be at work and live a full lives. those things are what democrats are pushing in a secondary package that republicans are not on board with. we will see how this test balloon in the house this week affairs and we will -- this week fares. host: i wanted to talk about the announcement from speaker pelosi and how the events of january 6 will be viewed. what is the breakdown and what are some of the issues ahead for the way it will go about doing so? guest: she will establish a select commission in the house
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to dig into the events of january 6, what happened, how it happened, who is involved and to make recommendations about what should be done. there are federal investigations ongoing. this is a compromise that republicans, we don't know how involved they will be. there was a proposal for separate independent commission that republicans could not get on board with peer they wanted to expand the scope to include things like black lives matter protests last summer. this is a congressionally led probe. that means that the dynamics of the house will be at play in the investigation, including democrats being the majority. the democrat will be leading the committee. of course minority leader mccarthy will be able to name people to the committee but he has not committed to doing so.
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we are not sure if there will be any republican support to create the select committee. host: one of the questions of the committee going forward is the sense of a timeline. what is the concern of a timeline or lack thereof? guest: that was a huge discussion in terms of an independent commission. republicans did not want this to drag into the midterms to be a topic of discussion. they saw that as potentially tarnishing publicans because the writers in violence was done on behalf of supporters of president trump. there is also an interest in timeliness to get this wrapped up potentially by the end of the year. we have seen those extended in previous years. the benghazi probe went on and
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on your but we do not have a clear timeline and we do not know who will lead the panel or whether the members of the panel will be largely made up of committee chairs and other leaders in the house or whether more rank and file lawmakers will be making these decisions going forward. at will all be things to be decided what's the resolution was forward to create the select committee. host: if you want to ask questions, you can call and ask. (202) 748-8001 four republicans, (202) 748-8001 for democrats, (202) 748-8002 for independence. if the select committee comes to fruition, will it supersede the other investigations on this? guest: supersede is probably a strong word, but the
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intelligence communities are looking into this, the fbi and others will be continuing with their probe. this might consolidate the ongoing investigations that other standing committees of house and senate are putting together. we do not know if there will be senate cooperation, but things like the oversight committee, homeland security has looked into the venue or six attack and this might be able to collect that information in a consolidated place in the house. i would say this could lead the way for the house element of the investigation. i do not know if this will impact at all the ongoing investigations of the fbi and other federal agencies. host: how much when it comes to this committee will subpoena power be a part of it and what
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other elements will be a part of it? guest: there will be subpoena power under the select committee, something that is a contentious issue is that it will be led by the democrats, because they have the majority in the house and because this will be a house committee that is how the power is delegated there was much more negotiation about that and concessions made for a proposal of the independent commission, but were public and still did not want to go forward with that and rejected those proposals. they now have this platform to say because this committee will be led by a democrat and they will have the subpoena power, that they are already calling this partisan probe. what we do not know is whether subpoenas will be issued for people like minority leader kevin mccarthy who was in
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conversation with president trump on january 6 or whether trump himself could be subpoenaed as part of this probe. host: this is katherine tully-mcmanus joining us for this discussion. going into the summer, what are the major issues or agenda issues that house democrats want to achieve it before the summer break? guest: infrastructure is looking to dominate the rest of june, much of july, and frankly going into the fall. what was accomplished last week, this culmination of a bipartisan proposal is not yet text. we do not yet have a written agreement. those issues that president joe biden has agreed to an summit republicans -- senate republicans and democrats.
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there is also the secondary track that resident biden wants to take with that, the social infrastructure, including childcare and things like that that bill is also met existing yet and needs to be put together . agreement on things like topline numbers are where we are at, but we don't yet have agreement between the further left progressives in the democratic party, including bernie sanders, and more moderates like joe manchin, and they need to get on board. this will dominate for months. host: we have a viewer from twitter asking about the bipartisan bill passing in the senate. i am guessing, and it is just a guess that you talked about the transportation bill should it
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pass the house, what is the likelihood it will pass in the senate? guest: i think the senate would like to put together their own package. they like to do their own negotiating and they have a similarly slim margin but much slimmer than the house. they need to pass a bill that gets every democrat and some republicans on board and often that is not accomplished by a house past bill with the narrow democratic majority. host: on a related matter to the investigation of the issues of january 6 as far as the capitol police, the house took up legislation when it comes to spending for capitol police. what does it do to improve security there on the capital campus -- capitol campus?
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guest: they have made it clear they were under sourced and did not have the equipment they needed it. so the damaged helmets and going into the hand-to-hand combat without they needed. the bill has been introduced in the house would make significant increases and investments in the capitol police. what remains to be seen is what kind of overhaul of management and oversight of capitol police per that is something lawmakers are keeping a close eye on. the police board that has oversight and control over the capitol police, frankly most of them have resigned and have now been placed by new faces who were not here on january 6, and they will be tasked with doing serious overhaul of how capitol police work.
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they have discussed making it more of a protective service model as opposed to a more traditional police department. there will be costs associated with that. when i talked with republican lawmakers, they want to see those overhaul institutional changes made in concert with funding to make changes and to make sure the department has the equipment they need, and they are hoping those changes can be made before money is part of the problem. host: we have a call from robert on the republican line from augusta, georgia. go ahead. caller: the structure has not been overlooked. it's just the key issues have been the pressing issues. host: you will have to continue
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on and not be tempted to listen to the television. go ahead, please. caller: what it is is that there were a lot of issues until the structure issue came ahead of it because of the infrastructure weakness and then it came in issue, being able to put it in better words, it was not overlooked, it simply came to a point where it was necessary. host: ok robert from georgia. anything you want to pick up on that? guest: robert is right that there was deterioration of key infrastructure points, whether it be electrical grids or simple roads and bridges.
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drivers across the country now that there are significant issues with the bridges and that deterioration over time is why this is such a big deal right now and why there is partisan motivation to move forward, of course there is not agreement always on how to do it and especially how to pay for it. host: what does history teach us about when the bipartisan deals come to fruition whether they actually end up on the president's desk for signature? guest: this is a case where it does seem like almost every involved party isn't motivated and we do not have blanket naysayers like we've had in previous deals on other topics, where people wanted just to not move forward on an issue. they wanted to vote against the
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spending or the issue completely. we don't see those elements rising right now. they agree that the country needs investment in infrastructure and getting to that point where there is agreement on how to do it and how to pay for is the challenge of the months ahead. host: here is a very from north -- barry from north carolina, on the republican line. caller: i think they should try to apply the cost to the user, increase taxes on gasoline and diesel, aviation fuel, airline tickets. you can't tax all of it to the point where it would pay for everything. if you can tax 5% on gasoline
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and diesel, and then whatever the delta is, use that to try to figure out what the general text would be on the rest of the country. i think for the definition of that, i agree that railways should be included in it, aviation should be included in it, anything that has an impact on the country and its operation and the movement of people in general. as for the insurrection that occurred on january 6, i think it was an insurrection and i agree there should be further investigation, i do have a problem that we did not have the same level of interest in the may through november uprising. many of those would be defined as insurrections by definition,
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especially with the courthouse, the overrunning of police stations. when you look at the results, the capitol was not burned down, there was not $5 billion done in damage to the capitol. there were over 30 from the uprising on the streets of america. i think it is also deserving of a congressional investigation to theaker pro mpore: the
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ntue beyond 1:50 the chair recognizes the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. joyce, for five minutes. mr. joyce: thank you, madam speaker. madam speaker, i rise to address the house and ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. joyce: madam speaker, nearly 100 days after being appointed as the biden administration border czar, vice president harris finally visited the southern border at the end of last week. it was 800 miles away from the crux of the problem, but i suppose it's a start. clearly the biden-harris administration knows that it is facing a border crisis. to them it's a p.r. crisis. to the american people the biden border crisis is so real. as i have said time and time
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