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20 four hours before a suicide bomber detonated an explosive outside of an airport. they gathered for the daily morning update for the deteriorating situation in afghanistan. on the third floor of the pentagon, the defense secretary instructed more than a dozen of the department's top leaders to make preparations for an imminent mass casualty event according to classified notes. shared with politico. you can read more about that on politico. on the deadline coming up tomorrow, the reporting of the hill this morning, president biden enters airless final hours of afghanistan omission. remaining -- mission. remaining u.s. forces are said to leave the country on tuesday. marking an end to a 20 year military engagement.
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it will not be in clear break. they must so grumble whether to continue evacuation missions for americans and afghans left behind. also the fallot of a isis-k attack that killed 13 service members. -- fallout of that isis-k attack that killed 13 service members. joining us is white house reporter with politico, daniel is with us with a look ahead to the white house agenda for the coming week. guest: thank you for having me. host: let me ask about the response the white house has given so far. on calls for continued u.s. presence after tomorrow in afghanistan. guest: i think it is more likely that there will be some u.s.
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engagement if there is a taliban government they can work with in respect to human rights. the treasury department has already indicated two humanitarian organizations will not be prosecuted if they provided aid to afghanistan going forward. that is an important signal that they continue to help the afghan people. which are going through an economy that is falling apart. in terms of an embassy base, that seems unlikely. host: we showed the president and first lady during the transfer of remains ceremony. the president spoke last week about the attack in kabul. is the president is better to have further comments today -- expected to have further comments today about the 13 dead service members? guest: there are no plans as of
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now. i think if the situation develops or if there is another attack, or if he wants to recognize the occasion of america's withdrawal from afghanistan. after all of the troops have left, that might be a good opportunity. i would not be surprised if he did speak again about the success for the completion of that mission. mama evacuated every american. -- they have not evacuated every american. tens of thousands of afghan allies who were deserving and if we have stayed longer we could've gotten out. they will have to go over land or some of them will have to face attacks. hopefully, the airport will reopen soon commercial flights. the taliban will let people get to country sort the u.s. -- get
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to other countries or u.s.. host: a welcoming of the ukrainian president, to the white house this week. the headline from washington times, biden meeting revise issues. what should we know about this meeting between president biden and the president of ukraine? guest: it is a meeting that is years in the making. former president trump had tried to withhold aid to ukraine. he did, actually. in exchange for the president to launch an investigation into joe biden to try to urge him to investigate biden and his son's behavior in ukraine. they were holding this eight hostage. in terms -- aid hostage.
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in terms of the u.s. or the ship with russia, that is a huge concern in ukraine. they want the u.s. to tell vladimir putin to back off. they are worried about nord stream 2, championed by germany that could make it much harder for the ukrainian economy continue to be strong. ukraine wants more weapons and foreign aid to help stave off russian aggression. host: he covers the white house for politico. thank you for the update. our opening topic this first hour is about the withdrawal deadline of u.s. troops from afghanistan. (202) 748-8001 four republicans.
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democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. (202) 748-8003 for afghan vets. caller: good morning. you have been a light in the darkness. the first thing i like to say is biden is doing the best job he possibly can. any republican does not have a leg to stand on to say a word about what he is doing after what trump did in syria and the republicans never said a word when he returned -- when he turned his back on the kurds and they were massacred. that's all i have.
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host: on the independent line is the end are, florida -- deandre in miami, florida. caller: the withdrawal would've taken place, on the 29th of february by trump, we have not done anything but just leave another vacuum for extremism to take over and take a foothold. we are known for what they are doing and their cultures and ways. we were there for the oil. we need to change our entire military objectives. ramadi else need to get closer to jesus. -- everybody else needs to get
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closer to jesus. host: the administration in the u.s. will continue to disrupt and prevent terrorist attacks in kabul and afghanistan and elsewhere. [video clip] >> no one here trusts the taliban. no one is counting on any words the taliban offers. we are focused on action. the answer is yes, we do believe that the united states possesses substantial leverage to ensure that american citizens and others get safe passage out of that country. if they do not, we can bring to bear enormous pressure on the taliban with a swift and forceful response to their blocking any american citizen before august 31 or after. that is not about trust, that is the taliban to the commitments they have voiced directly out of the commitments they have made publicly. we are working in a united way
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with dozens of other countries in the international community to ensure that is the case. host: there has been an additional attack overnight. rockets targeted with troops. -- i troops. -- at troops. rockets were fired at kabul airport. it was as we were trying to evacuate. -- deemed at risk. an effort that began before kabul fell to the taliban. the u.s. and allied forces are to complete their withdrawal before the deadline. democrats line, go ahead. caller: i want to say i am sad
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for those who lost their lives. trump has the nerve to say biden should resign. he has done so many terrible things. he has nor sick for women -- he has no respect for women. the shoe is on the other foot. i am sure that trump or not have handled it better. host: karl in arlington, virginia. caller: good morning. what was done to those 13 servicemen is what they were over there trying to do to the taliban. the taliban beat them to the punch. america has no right to go over there and tell them how they should treat their citizens. to tell -- the taliban has a consensus to rule. what the americans over there do
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is spread white supremacy. what happened to them is what happens when you stick your nose in other people's business. host: call on the line that best presents your point of view. -- best represents your point of view. caller: your heart goes out to the service members and afghan assistance who died. -- citizens who died. we should have never have gone over there, trying to change their culture and go against what they wanted. honestly, make money for more u.s. citizens. the two people who were there at the beginning, they made money in this war. the money we spent on this war
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have gone back into the pockets of u.s. military at a politician or mongers. it is time to get out. it is unfortunate it has transpired this way. host: you think the mission has been achieved? the express mission of preventing terrorism? preventing attacks over here? caller: i think initially, it was accomplished to the extent that the idea was to break up al qaeda, the taliban. that was done. then the mission changed. all of the sudden it became about nationbuilding. we undermined that initial success. we created more terrorists. we give the country back to the people we were supposedly fighting against. that was done last year. host: malvern, arkansas.
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byron. caller: good morning. i enjoy what you do. i feel like america at this point, america has strength. we cannot only put drones around there to protect our withdrawal, we have a fleet of these gunships that could be circling the airport. just daring them to show their heads with 40 millimeters cannons and gatling guns. they could just circle around until everybody is gone. america at this time has to show strength. that is all i have to say. i do not know why our generals do not use the threat that we have. we are a mighty awesome country.
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i appreciate our soldiers. god bless them. host: lindsey graham was on face of the nation yesterday. he expressed concerns over potential terrorist attacks after the evacuation from afghanistan. [video clip] >> i would not have withdrawn. i would've kept the forces on the ground. when we have people on the ground working with indigenous forces, that is the best insurance policy against another 9/11. i would've held the taliban to the condition set out in the agreement with trump. this is beyond my pledge to describe it. we are leaving thousands of
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afghan allies behind, we want to leave hundreds of american citizens behind -- we are going to leave hundreds of american citizens behind. this drone attacks will not degrade isis. isis fighters have doubled. we have turned our backs on our allies. we set the conditions for another 9/11. i have never been more worried about an attack than i am right now. we did not end this war. president biden said he went to take this off of the plea for future presidents. he has done the exact opposite. presidents will be dealing with this catastrophe in afghanistan. this war has not edited. -- and it. --ended. [end video clip] host: asking you about tuesday's withdrawal from afghanistan.
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republicans call (202) 748-8001. democrats call (202) 748-8000. independents call (202) 748-8002 . veterans call (202) 748-8003. next caller. caller: we know that there was one simple event that happened that when trump negotiated with the taliban, they went and told the afghan national army that the united states negotiating with us and it made the afghan army no and void. everybody sees this. as trump goes run negotiating with radical islam, this is what caused the problem. you cannot negotiate with radical islam america. it supported al qaeda. host: should joe biden have
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declared that deal no and void -- null and void? caller: his policy was set by the presidency. you have to honor some of these administration's positions. comp and pompeo knew what they were doing when they negotiated that deal -- trump and pompeo knew what they were doing when they go she did that deal. company what he was doing when he signed ideal -- trump new what he was doing when he signed that deal with the taliban. when he first went to saudi arabia, that was a symbol of world domination. taliban and saudia arabia, trump was showing support towards radical islam when joe biden went to europe on his first trip.
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that was his clearing that he was not following trump's policies. host: lawrence, kansas. patrick is next upcoming democrat's line. caller: i want to hear from our military, political, or diplomatic leadership. who has been supplying the taliban with uniforms, medical care, trucks, freshwater, fuel, equipment, ammunition, training, when they have no manufacturing base, no industrial and flex -- complex. who is paying for this, why haven't these communications been destroyed or disrupted? host: greg in pennsylvania. caller: i think it was a good response you had a couple colors ago. -- callers ago.
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he was coming on a line he could get in on -- calling on a line you could get in on. i hope you are making notes about rotating so that you do not get one voice expressed on every issue. i have a couple comments. i think c-span should have a topic sometime about whether the public sees the media covering biting differently than it did cover donald trump -- cover biting differently than it covered donald trump and why. 70% of the money spent and there went to the american military industrial complex. i have heard that before. i do not think it is right. if it is right, the american
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people should know what is going on. as to the withdrawal, anybody would have done this better than he did. who is in control at the white house? that is the ultimate question. host: with that, how closely do you think a democratic run house rooms and it is and senate will keep the administration -- run house and senate will keep the administration running? caller: they will divert. they will go to haiti, they will go to climate change. they will do whatever it takes. they will gaslight this issue because it has not been a good thing for them. they are worried that in 15 months they're going to pay a price.
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they are doing what their politicians tell them to do. divert the public's attention and manipulate them again. just like they did in 2020. if everybody in the mainstream media says donald trump is worse than hitler's, all of the voters are on their machines checking their twitter accounts. all they read is comp is hitler's. they're going to -- comp is hitler -- trump is hitler. host: the hurricane has been downgraded to a category one, headline with ida weakens as rescues begin. it became a tropical storm assess load over mississippi on monday while across southeast louisiana residents waited for daylight to be rescued from floodwaters. one of the most powerful
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hurricanes ever to strike the u.s. mainland. all of norlin -- all of new orleans lost power. just before that, the governor updated louisianans and others on the progress of the storm. [video clip] >> based on the hurricane track and the wind and rain forecast, the cpra is dissipating some overtopping of the southeast portion of the libby system. -- levy system. and not federal levees as well. overtopping is concerning, i want to make sure that everybody understands come overtopping and levy failure are not the same thing. a levy failure can be much more
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catastrophic. they are not the same thing. we are going to continue to monitor this flood protection system. i can tell you we do not anticipate any overtopping of the mississippi river levees or overtopping of the levees in the hurricane risk reduction system around the greater new orleans area. [end video clip] host: the headline this morning, all of new orleans without power after hurricane idalis catastrophic transmission damage. we expect a further briefing from governor edwards and other officials as they are available. we will keep you posted about our live coverage plans here on c-span or streaming on the c-span.org. clarksburg, west virginia, spence. democrats' line. caller: i'm sick and tired.
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i appreciate the gentleman who brought up wars and they call in and think they know what is better. we do not know what is going on on the ground. the military men are doing the best they can. fire fighters our president, we have moved out of the situation, we get ready to have internal arguments. we need to be talking about the republicans to get on here. we went through. the president has set the seal up like other callers have. they always call themselves patriots. the patriots are the 13 caskets that came back. the names of heroes. they do with their country ask them to do and we should be proud of them. this is no time for any side to be running their mouth when we have men at war. it is not american.
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the republicans need to start being american again. host: here is the headline in the washington post, the president go to delaware to meet with military families. biden thought to provide solace as officials were dealing with a swirl of crises as he took off from washington. hurricane ida, in afghanistan u.s. officials were checking the extent of the damage from the drone attack. due to the sensitivity of the issue, the strip was carried out with a missile -- the mission was carried out with a missile in a densely packed urban area. a secondary exposure and damaged a building which rose the possibility of civilian casualties. jay, at afghan vet calm in. -- calling in. we go to susan in placentia,
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california. caller: the agreement trump had with the afghanistan -- had with -- the agreement trump had. has the terms and conditions on it that had to be met before we left. biden snuck out in the middle of the night, he did not tell our allies. he left the citizens of their defend them -- he left the citizens there to fend for themselves. he is a coward, he is the worst president we have ever had. host: let us go to gainesville, virginia. we hear from -- what is your name? caller:ashoka.
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before i touch on the withdrawal, i want to refer to lindsey graham being on the face of the nation. i do not think he has incredulity. this guy -- this guy has any ability. this guy said trump was bad, then he was for trump. he was against extreme court justices being appointed during an election year. he changed his mind with trump was in power. no one cares about what lindsey graham says anymore. i think biden is doing the right thing. he had the backbone to make a decision and stand by it. so many soldiers, killed. innocent people, killed. millions of dollars, we could have done in this country. we have a broken health care
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system, middle class is struggling to survive, we have broken infrastructure. $2 trillion, how men were trillions are we going to spend and how many precious american lives are we going to lose? america has never gone through a war in the muslim world and met success. every time it was a failure. you cannot do the impossible. you can introduce nations to democracy for the next 1000 years. biden did the right thing. we have got to live with it. next you will be a better year. -- year will be a better year. host: what you think the future poles for u.s. diplomatic -- polls for the u.s. to poetic effort -- two medic efforts in
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diplomatic efforts in those countries? caller: america blew the afghan war. host: he is the prime minister, correct? caller: he was on air, two weeks ago. he was criticizing america. he was receiving millions of dollars from america just to be alive. if americas does not give you money, they will not be our friends. host: the we have withdrawn troops, should be withdrawal money? yes, these are decisions that need to be done at the highest level. i think america has enough problems to deal with. there is so much to do in this without wasting money on wars like this that we can never win. the only people who made money
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on these wars is the military establishment that makes billions. god knows how many politicians spent money in the process. we do not know. kudos to biden for withdrawing the troops. next year will be a better year for america and we will all forget this. host: thanks for your call. hickory, north carolina, donald on the republican line. caller: morning, america. good morning, c-span. host: good morning, sir. caller: i have gotten to the point that i am leaving the republican party. i don't want to be a democrat. i want to be an independent, because i am sick of the lying from both parties. they are corrupt. they all take money from essential interests. fat suits running our country, not the politicians.
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and you have a great day, steve. host: thanks for your call this morning. a headline from today's wall street journal. trapped in afghanistan, rescued by volunteers, how a handful of americans freed 5000 afghans. a private equity investor from naples, florida, asked to host thousands of afghan refugees. he just call made out of the blue by a washington representative. two days later, on august when he five, the acting foreign minister signed a tentative accord to temporarily house as many as afghan evacuees in a 10,000 port on the gulf of aden. it was part of an on-the-fly effort, helping about 5000 afghans escape their country in the past two weeks. one of the most successful known
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private efforts to extract afghans. from a conference room at hotel in washington, mr. van meter and a collection of war veterans donors, defense , afghan diplomats donors, defense contractors, nonprofit , workers, and off-duty u.s. officials conducted a global military-style rescue operation. you can read that online at the wall street journal. the former national security advisor in the trump administration was on "meet the press" yesterday. he said that we all share responsibility in the fate and future of afghanistan. [video clip] >> well, i think we all share response building. it is not a 20-year war, it is a one-year war fought 20 times over. the basis for the problems we have encountered in afghanistan is certainly the enemies we have been fighting there, as you can see today, enemies have a say in the future course of events, and there are consequences when you surrender to a terrorist organization.
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but it has not been a 20-year war, it has been a one-year war fought 20 times over with ineffective strategies based on flawed assumptions. what assumptions about the nature of the enemy, about what was necessary to achieve a sustainable outcome there. what is sad about it is this or ended in self defeat. we had a sustainable effort in place several years ago. if we had to state it, we could have prevented what is happening now. instead, what we did is we surrendered to a jihadist organization and assumed there would be no consequences for that. host: back to calls on afghanistan. david in madison heights, michigan, democrat. caller: thank you very much for taking my call. i am so happy with the success of president biden. trump made his deal with terrorists. he should not have done that. but you did not do any segment when over 500 americans killed
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when putin put bounties on our military in afghanistan. you did not do a segment over that, when 500, over 500 americans got killed in afghanistan under trump. you did not do a segment on that. why don't we move on and quit this afghanistan to try to make a successful president, which is president biden, the success of america. why don't you do some segments other than afghanistan? we have a lot of problems that president biden is fixing right now in america. we all know what side of the aisle conservative span is on. thank you. host: eric in manchester, new hampshire, republican. go ahead. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call.
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to that last guy, real quick, our intelligence agencies totally discounted that bounty. that is a lie. i am sorry, this is really pissing me off. look, the only people who think biden did a good job on this withdrawal are democrats. no one in the world, no one in this country -- the last guy who was talking about the dead soldiers, well, those soldiers are dead because of biden. everyone knows trump would not have accepted the deal biden did. biden is completely weak and he has been caught in a lie after lie. he is a disgrace to this country, and if you support him, you are supporting our demise. that is all i have to say. host: mitchell in chattanooga, tennessee, democrat. caller: good morning, c-span.
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host: before you get underway, make sure you mute your volume on your set. caller: ok. i just got a couple questions here. i want to know, the amount of people that we have already took out of afghanistan, you want to tell me that many people was actually helping the united states? that many people was actually involved? i think not. and another thing who wants to , take a job in a war zone? you are talking about our commander-in-chief. he is the commander-in-chief of the military, not of civilians over there working for -- host: ok, we got your point. some of those evacuees are coming through dulles airport in the nation's capital. this is the washington times mass vaccination site set up for afghans near dulles. u.s. government has open ms
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covid-19 vaccination site for arriving afghans near the airport, where some of the dozens of fleeing the taliban are now arriving daily. the press secretary confirming friday that the site set up by the federal emergency management agency has begun administrating vaccinations of afghan evacuees. in pennsylvania, good morning to john on the republican line. caller: thanks for having me this morning. yeah, he is doing a great job. he has got people wading in sewage, being shot like fish in a barrel. these marines are over there changing diapers and everything. he is doing a great job, i think. i don't understand why nobody is talking about impeachment. if this was donald trump in office we would already have , impeachment proceedings, nancy pelosi waving her hands around and everything. i was watching yesterday that they were bringing the caskets
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over, like this one gentleman was saying about the soldiers. yeah, i notice they cannot even stand there. one of them passed out and got sick because he could not even stand the sight of their own work. and i also noticed there was no blacks in these caskets and the pallbearers were not black either. that is my point of the day. host: a call on the independent line for maryland. caller: thank you for taking my call. i hear a lot of callers calling about the prior administration's agreement. it is time the current administration takes response ability for their decisions. they are in charge of the country. this is just an extension of the obama administration's foreign policy, failed foreign policy. we saw the same thing happen in libya with the fall of gadhafi, in syria with isis, benghazi. we cannot continue going around the country creating power vacuums.
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it will be filled with undesirable leadership, which is what you are going to find here. the thing is, we have spent trillions of dollars over 20 years and four presidents to , replace the taliban with the taliban. it is crazy. this president, we have the cartels with open borders, china gets auto chips, the taliban gets our weapons, the taxpayers weapons. the american people get lockdowns, businesses destroyed, and expensive gas. it is a disaster. hopefully everybody thinks about this when they vote. host: on abc's "this week" yesterday, antony blinken said the u.s. still had significant leverage over the taliban. here are his comments. [video clip] >> just about 24 hours ago, a very senior taliban leader spoke on television and on radio about
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throughout afghanistan and repeatedly assured the afghan that they would be free to travel after >> i know you say august 31. you do not trust the taliban, but now you're telling me we should trust what the taliban says. >> i am not saying that. i'm not saying we should trust the taliban on anything. i am simply reporting what one of their senior leaders said to the afghan people. he specifically cited those who worked for americans and any other afghan, for whatever reason. that is point one. >> i want to go back to that. you are trying to reassure our afghan allies. they are not reassured. those interpreters who are not getting out, they are not reassured by statements like that. what more can you tell them on how to get out? >> certainly. that was just .1. point to is this. 114 countries have made very clear that it is their expectation that the taliban will permit freedom of travel going past august 31.
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so that is a clear expectation , across the entire world, across the entire international community. third, we have very significant leverage to work with over the weeks and months ahead to , incentivize the taliban to make good on its commitments. host: on the political effect of the withdrawal from afghanistan, reporting from litter go as , biden winds down afghanistan, a refugee backlash looms at home. president joe biden has faced a torrent of criticism for abandoning afghan partners. the country fell to the taliban. now there is a looming political controversy over the thousands of afghans biden will resettle over here. an increasingly vocal group of republicans led by donald trump, , made immigration restrictions a hallmark of his presidency, opposed the resettlement of afghan refugees in the u.s., claiming it could be dangerous
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or will change the makeup of the country. they planned to make it an issue in years midterm elections, along with broader attacks about biden's messy withdrawal from afghanistan. some comments on social media, on twitter. dave says this, the president is sending a message that it is time for afghanistan to fight for itself. the u.s. has given 20 years of training and free military equipment to the afghan army. it has spent over $1 trillion and has lost countless american lives. staying on topic, this is a strictly nonpartisan opinion, there should be no dated deadline. the only deadline should be when every american has been extracted. russ from texas sends us this. biden's talking heads keep saying we have all this leverage on the taliban. what is this leverage? i see only one, money. and from william in middletown, connecticut, the response on the attacks on americans is lacking the intensity, need a bigger
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response, get all-americans out now. over the horizon is not good policy for real intelligence gathering. we will go back to calls. keith in tunnel hill, georgia, democrat. caller: yeah, republicans do not seem to be able to grasp the concept that the president does not plan the evacuation. he oks it. harrison ford is not president, folks. this is real life. it is dangerous and bloody. and lindsay, he is just a little nervous nelly, isn't he? it is a shame he's not concerned about mass shootings in america. thank you. host: louisville, south carolina, next up is sylvia. democrat line, go ahead. caller: yes, i am concerned about the media wants to put everything out there about what is going on. you can't tell everything that is going on in the united
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states. you don't think they have spies over here? there is people everywhere, and those people have ways of knowing what is going on in the united states. why tell them everything? i was brought up, when you have something, you keep it close to your chest. i think biden is doing a very good job with what he had to come into. >> ok. i have two updates for you. the first is one on hurricane ida, which is lengthy. hopefully, we will share in number of helpful details with all of you. today, as you just saw, the president and his homeland security team continues to monitor the impact of hurricane ida, something he is been hurt -- has been monitoring through the weekend. as expected, early reports show catastrophic damage in areas along the gulf coast. ida has now been downgraded to a tropical storm. it is going to continue to
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