the senate commerce insurance -- and transportation committee at 10 eastern. then at noon, the houses back for legislative business. on c-span two, the senate returns at 10 a.m. eastern to consider executive nominations and vote on whether to begin debate on the voting rights bill named after the late congressman and civil rights activist, john lewis. that procedural vote would require the support of 60 senators to move forward. on c-span 3, fbi and homeland security officials testify about threats of domestic terrorism before a house intelligence subcommittee at 9:30 a.m. eastern. coming up this morning, we will discuss last night governor raises in new jersey and virginia and the political environment heading into campaign 2022. then look at president biden's

build back better agenda and upcoming fiscal deadline. "washington journal" is next. ♪ host: and it appears that virginia has gone republican. glenn youngkin has been declared the winner over former governor terry mcauliffe and the lieutenant governor and attorney general's positions are also being led by republicans. in new jersey, another high-profile race there has yet to be called. jacket should rally and phil murphy are essentially tied with 90% of the vote counted. good morning, welcome to the washington journal.

high-profile races and mayoral contest across the country. we will talk with two members of congress later in the show and as always, we will air your voices. here is how you can participate this morning. we want to hear your views about the election last night. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8002 for independent s. we will get to those calls quickly. you can send us a text message, (202) 748-8003. that's for text messages only. please include your city and your first name, if you would. and continue the conversation on our social media sites, facebook, twitter, instagram. @cspanwj is our handle there.

and we encourage our friends in virginia and new jersey to call in this morning. those are the two high-profile races. politico has this article, progressives win big in boston on an otherwise tough night for the light -- for the left. michelle wu has been elected the mayor of boston and is the first elected female mayor and mayor of color in that city. cincinnati also elected its first mayor of asian descent. it goes on to say that in buffalo, new york, the candidate who won the democratic primary was a socialist, endorsed by kirsten gillibrand and chuck schumer because she won the democratic primary. the current mayor, byron brown, mounted a write in campaign and

it appears that he will be winning that race in buffalo. in this article it goes on to say that moderates added more wins to their column in minneapolis and new york. the seattle moderate mayoral candidate finished with more than 60% of the vote. the mayor of miami was reelected to a second term, joining the ranks of a handful of republican mayors leading big cities. that is from politico this morning. here is the headline in "usa today," the fierce races of yesterday prelude the 22 battle for congress, meaning now we are going to be looking at congress, the races is in congress next year already. this is from "the hill," five takeaways from a grim night democrat -- grim night for

democrats." "a sharp rebuke for biden, calling for a mcauliffe when, before going on to say that adverse results should not be read as a rejection of his agenda. democrats have a lot of work, the closeness of the new jersey race was a real shock and the ballot measure to replace the minneapolis police department with a public safety agency went down in defeat in the city where george floyd was murdered. number three, another take away to this article -- murdered." number three, another takeaway to this -- from this article, "glenn youngkin handled the trump issue with deafness, excepting the endorsement of trump and careful not to alienate the former president us

supporters, also keeping trump at arms length in the closing stretches of the general election campaign, trump never campaigned in person with him and the republican gubernatorial candidate hit out when a rally from trump allies used a flag from the rally that preceded the january 6 insurrection." the number four takeaway, " culture wars get hotter, education was one of the dominant issues of the closing stage but it was a catchall term for several more emotive topics that got traction with moderates and social conservatives. resistance to vaccine mandates, backlash against progressive demands, and an increasingly politicized atmosphere around school boards played a role. democrats argued that some of these attacks were unfair or worse.

mcauliffe accused young can of using a racist dog whistle over the teaching of beloved. [no audio] trump claims credit. the fact that yungkin kept his difference -- distance from trump didn't stop the former president trump claiming victory . "without due, he would not have been close to winning," trump said in a statement." that is from the hill this morning. now we want to hear your views about the election results of

2021 and we begin with tyrone in new york city. tyrone, you have a new mayor. caller: absolutely. and he won without any real, you know, without any real contestants against him. i don't think that curtis lee had a chance. donald trump says the magda help is what made the virginia race went to let this guy win, but they lost, you know? the magda -- maga agenda lost in the last election but i hope the democratic -- democratic party learns from this. guest: what do you want the democratic party to learn? caller: to fight against each other is a recipe for disaster.

we are fighting against each other on this bill back better situation without recognizing that people are infrastructure also and that if you don't have people, we have already seen, if we don't have people to work to build these things, build the roads and the cleaner water, we are defeating ourselves. yeah, we need to help the people planning on doing this work and i hope we pass this legislation and stop fighting amongst each other about numbers host:. do you -- numbers. host: do you think the lack of passing caller: -- passing legislation? caller: i don't think it helps. the party in power still can't

get major legislation passed. host: thank you. john, bridgewater, new jersey, that's a nailbiter. caller: i tell you, i'm republican all the way from nixon. i think we will lose a close one because of the votes coming in from certain counties. host: yes, essex and trenton are still not counted? caller: yeah, we are dead, we are dead. however, it was close. virginia i think is the pivot to end all this nonsense about, again, you know, wokeism, tear down statues, that kind of thing has helped the republicans. again, i'm hoping that we are going to win the midterms.

it was a good time, a good night. i didn't expect it to be this close. i'm very happy about virginia and new jersey. even if we lose, which we will, i think it sends a message. host: was your vote anti-phil murphy or pro jack yungkin -- jack ciattarelli or both? caller: i totally never vote for democrats. they are dangerous. very quickly, they want to take away little local zoning ability of of localities. that's their biggest goal. take away our ability to zone our houses the way we want to. they hate local control. host: that is john in bridgewater. rory, california, republican line. what you think about yesterday's

election results? caller: i'm glad to see the purple virginia become red virginia. and new jersey went from blue to purple leaning towards red. i don't necessarily agree that new jersey will stay democratic. and in california, the republicans, we have been talking about it, maybe we will finally get an impeachment against biden for incompetence and senility and harris for dereliction of any duty. she's nowhere and doesn't do anything. that's it. host: james, pittsburgh, independent line, african-american mayor for the first time in pittsburgh, right? caller: yes, sir. it's up to the people if they want to help out here. all men are created equal in the constitution.

but they had plantations. we have three branches of government, it's time for a third party. the choice between democrat and republican? the naacp and the clue clocks clan will not shake hands. host: who did you vote for? caller: i didn't vote for this. i ran for mayor before. i'm a politician. it's very corrupt here. nobody out there got better ideas than me. host: all right, appreciate your time. bradley, georgia, democratic line, hello, bradley. caller: hello. i want to talk to mice -- to my fellow democrats. we let a silly dog whistle like crt, critical race theory, and these and i've asked people basically just a bend everything. donald trump is going to win two years from now.

he is for sure going to run now. they are already trying to blame the progressives. like it's our fault that saudi arabia and russia have cut off the spigot to raise gas prices because they want trump in in two years. the democratic party, if they do not pass something like health care, the stuff that like all the young people came out and voted for, we need health care, we need all these things. not just paid family leave. people like joe manchin and kristin cinema, they are republicans. mitch mcconnell is a people genius, man. if we don't get someone like that? we have got to get some new blood in the party. host: where do you put yourself on the spectrum of the democratic party? caller: i'm a liberal, you know? i'm not a communist. i mean socialism, social security is apparently not that

bad. i guess you might call me a socialist. but they paint me as a communist, you know? this up-and-coming generation is not playing. they won't come out and vote for this stuff the democrats are doing. joe biden is who we had to have to get rid of trump but now, it's over. the republicans will win in two years and then they will screw things up like they always do and hopefully by then the democratic party will get their act together. or i sure hope so. host: in atlanta there was a mayoral election going to a runoff. felicia moore, the city council president, had about 40% of the vote and she is the front runner and she will, she will go into a runoff with the second-place person there. the next call is loretta in cleveland, ohio. loretta, you have got a new mayor and a new congresswoman,

don't you? caller: sure do. host: did you support both of them? caller: yes. well, you know, our family, we use voting as an opportunity to get together. so, every time there is an election, we will go vote in then go to brexit and spin around and talk about who we voted for and -- go to breakfast and spin around and talk about who we voted for and it's all the same people. yes on 24. we are going to reform our police and stop all of this violence. i mean this is, it's a little bad. but what i really called to talk about was senator manchin. they are haggling out his

issues, but after that, man, they have to deal with kyrsten sinema. it's a coup within the democratic party, what's going on right now. host: what do you mean? caller: they both ran with joe biden on build back better and infrastructure. they got what they wanted. they wanted infrastructure. now they got problems with bill back better. i see it as fraud and i think that they should be, something should happen. what, i don't know. i think the people need to be looking at things, you know, with a third i, if they need it. -- eye, if they need it. anyone can see what's going on. we still have no voting rights. george floyd? what's going on. host: yeah, thanks.

while minneapolis did not adopt a new public safety approach to its police department, cleveland did with the public safety oversight board? that's yes on 24? caller: yes, yes, yes. we found out some things we didn't even know. they had people on the civilian review board that don't even live in the city. i mean, these are the things that are going on. you people out there, yell need to -- you all need to pay more close attention. this local stuff, it grows into the state stuff and state stuff bruise and grows into the federal stuff and after a wall -- after a while it's all contagious poison. i mean, we really need to clean up. host: thanks for your time this morning. the highest profile race was of course virginia.

glenn yungkin, the republican, here he is from last night. [video clip] >> so, on day one we are going to work. we are going to restore excellence in our schools. we will invest the largest education budget in the history of the commonwealth. we will invest in teachers, new facilities, special education. we will introduce choice within the public school system. how about that? choice within the public school system. we will start with 20 charter schools and make a down payment to close the gap on giving parents an opportunity to select where their kids go to school.

friends, we are going to embrace our parents, not ignore them. we are going to press forward with a curriculum that includes listening to parents, input with a curriculum that allows the children to run as fast as they can, teaching them how to think, enabling their dreams to soar. friends, we are going to reestablish excellence in our schools. host: and here are the election results from virginia. you can see glenn yungkin as the 50.7%. terry mcauliffe, 48.6%.

small margin. next caller. mike, north carolina, republican line. you are on the air. caller: good morning. well, as a conservative i'm pleased. you know, i live right next to virginia and the company i used to work for, before i had to take early retirement, is still based in richmond. most of my friends within the company and the people i knew there have been displeased with what has been going on in the state politically going back to 2013. i don't want to get too personal, but terry mcauliffe is a clinton operative who worked for the clinton organization and is tied to them and they obviously have their issues, like trump has his issues, trip politicians have issues, let's agree. and then ralph northam got a pass on his black face and all

that stuff. mcauliffe just couldn't pull it off. he thought he was just going to cruise in with nothing. the education thing just exploded. so, i'm happy. i think it shows the displeasure within the population of virginia for a lot of the left-leaning policies and politicians in their state, but i think in a larger sense it also, there's no way they are going to avoid this, it reflects largely on president biden and the policies of his administration, so on and so forth. host: a year ago joe biden beat donald trump in virginia by 10 points. this is a big swing. did president trump play a role in this election? caller: i think much less than the media would like to admit. terry mcauliffe obviously tried to drag him in with a bulldozer,

tried to drag trump into the election and trump tried to insert himself into it. that's trump, that's what he does. but even the left-wing media, as i call them, has identified, yungkin did a marvelous job of walking the tight rope. he could be the template for a republican politician going into 20. he kept trump at bay at arms length but didn't ostracize the base. ok? it's very much still trump pot party. it's only been nine to 10 months since trump left office and the democrats don't help themselves either with constantly bringing him up. he lives at rent free and all of their heads, including the left-wing media. turn on msnbc or cnn and it's either january 6 or its trump.

they never talk about the border, they never talk about afghanistan anymore. they never talk about inflation, the economy, energy prices. joe biden has just had a string of self-inflicted's since he came into office. host: all right, we will leave it there. the washington post, looking at the delegates for the democrats. it hasn't been finalized yet, but this article says that the republicans appear set to make gains in the virginia house. cheryl is calling in from clinton, in the suburbs. good morning. caller: [indiscernible] i think, this is how i feel it's

going to happen in virginia. first of all, there will be no $15 minimum wage. they probably don't need the money. no tax credits, no infrastructure, no health care. no child support to get back to work. no education of pre-k children. 54% of americans, i don't know what they are going to teach them. host: you have listed a lot of issues. caller: choice, public, public school, you were going to ask me something? host: yes, you have listed a lot of issues. are you saying that because these things didn't pass, that

because these things didn't pass, the democrats lost? caller: no republican has said anything about anything. rich people will continue to not pay taxes, meaning other people will be paying more. no books on the shelf. i don't know how they will teach anything when they don't know anything themselves. host: all right, jesse, independent mind, what is your reaction to yesterday's election results? caller: well, good morning. i have to tell you, this is just the beginning of what some of the people around our country are looking at. parents, come on. they are talking about domestic terrorists? they are concerned parents? i've been listening to some of your, you know, people calling in. first of all, you have to read the constitution.

there are laws that govern our republic. there's a bill of rights. when you put trillions of dollars in deficit to the country, a lot of people don't know what one trillion dollars is. $100 billion is one trillion dollars. it will take generations to pay that back. my grandchildren, my children. this is just the beginning. to all my fellow americans, we are going to win in 2020 four and take back our country. host: who is we? caller: the people that believe in god, and family, and country. i'm a veteran to this country. i believe in my country. the beautiful america. host: that's jesse in michigan.

patrick tweets that democrats cannot get walloped in rural virginia, must compete for every vote and engage with rural voters. another tweet from rebecca, it's one thing to fight forces outside your party and it's another when factions within your party are the enemy. one more tweet, the lack of action by the democratic congress to pass the infrastructure bill is a drag on all democratic candidates nationally. the next call is from gary in florida. good morning, you are on washington journal. caller: good morning. i've been a democrat for 45 years. chuck schumer came out and said that we will change the world, if we win the house and the senate, we will change the world and that is what changed me

because today i'm going to go change to a republican or any independent. -- or an independent. the democrats are going to far left. we've got to press them up there. host: what do you mean when the democrats are going to far left? is there an issue that concerns you most? caller: defund the cops, the schools, the afghan bullcrap. everything they do turns to crap. host: larry, elkhart, indiana. caller: i like the american people waking up to what's going on in this country and i'm glad they are, it's going the wrong way. to senator manchin in west virginia, i just want to say, hold your ground, sir, and keep it going.

host: andrew is next and andrew is in new jersey, independent line, fort monmouth. who did you vote for yesterday? caller: i did not vote for phil murphy. i voted for jack sick a rally. i believe that we need recall elections in this country in every state, we have to hold these people accountable. they talk a good talk but they don't walk the walk. they kowtow to the special interests. the average american person has been left out. i served this country with the air force and am proud of my service. as far as the schools, when i went to school you never had to worry about someone coming in with a gun. today that's a new normal and they don't do anything about it. so that's all i have to say. thank you. host: and with about 90% of the

vote counted, jack yungkin -- jack ciattarelli has a 56 point lead, just about 55 votes ahead. as we noted earlier, some of the votes that are still out are in democratic leaning counties. john in chantilly, virginia, democratic line. did you vote for terry mcauliffe yesterday? caller: yes, i did. i think some of these callers pretend they are democrats, but they are not. but the bottom line is this, we screw up ourselves. we didn't stop the lie about critical race things that the republicans were running. it was all bogus and the democrats didn't fight back. however, the reason most democrats didn't go out there to vote, they are upset about john lewis voting rights.

the democrats, we keep hearing about it. they will defend the filibuster. the republicans, one thing i will give them his respect, when they want to do something, they don't kill of -- they don't care about filibuster, they do what they need to do. the whole thing from yesterday, senator sinema and senator manchin, they stood their ground to help the republicans. they did what they needed to do to lose both of their democratic governors. the bottom line is this, we don't have, we are blaming ourselves. we have two senators who make us very tired every day that they are changing their minds and we are also blaming the media, who are every day attacking the democrats, how they are fighting each other, they never talk about how the republicans fight each other. host: what did you think of

former governor mcauliffe's strategy to invoke trump into the campaign? caller: well, look, we know the reality is that donald trump was involved in this election, whether we like it or not. they told him not to show up, just help us out there, he already said it. my, my, my followers will vote for this new governor. however the bottom line is i'm not blaming republicans. one thing, i respect them. they play like a team. they are there to win, they follow each other and they vote. we are family that breaks down left and right and i'm so disgusted about these two senators who destroy us. they are not democrats, they are republicans and they destroy our way of winning. people need to understand that. host: all right, john, thank

you. doug, oxford, republican line, what did you think about yesterday's result? caller: i don't trust it yet. we learned a lot about the democrats over the last five years. namely that there is nothing they won't do for power. cheating, stealing, you name it, they will do it. when they hire mark goliath to be there lawyer, it should raise red flags for everybody. he is known to fix these situations for them. just a little worried, that's all. host: your vote yesterday, did you vote for ciattarelli? caller: yes, i did. host: why? caller: i'm not crazy about them but we can't have murphy anymore power -- let murphy have anymore power. host: tyson is calling in from

carlsbad, california. independent line. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. i know it's late in the west and we appreciate c-span, thank you for the broadcast. yes, i do believe that the election has been kind of looked at. i mean, believe it or not, joe biden won and all of a sudden there is a virginia republican governor and others. my question is to you and your callers, is it swaying red or blue? because i'm independent. that's the way should be, man. it's really cool. host: well, let's ask you a

question, how did you vote in the recent recall of governor newsom? he is gone. nashville, georgia, earl, democratic line. good morning. how are you? caller: i'm doing fine, i'm doing fine. i just wanted to call in to make a couple of comments, you know. i'm a democrat whether we win or lose. but the moral here is, donald trump got a lot of people and we can, i can't blame the republicans. the democrats messed that up for themselves. anytime you learn a lesson and you don't pass what you say you're going to do, people going to get tired of hearing you say you do it and then you don't do it. yeah, this guy won.

i respect republicans. i think that it was a good run, a good lesson. but the democrats must learn, they must learn their lesson. they must learn to do what they say they are going to do. do the job. stop talking and do it. host: we have had several democratic callers blame senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema for holding up the legislation that congress is looking at. do you agree with that sentiment? caller: yes, to me, it was like a set up. both of those senators, they knew. joe manchin is from virginia. see. host: west virginia. caller: yes. he's in that area.

they are going to do what they are going to do. we are going to do what we ran on. ok? that's what it should have been. if he had done that right there? those are the two people, to me they are republican. they are not democrats, they are republicans. host: that was oral in georgia. shelley, what is your reaction to yesterday's elections? caller: listening this morning, i quite agree with some people and disagree with some people. i agree that they should put so much into party at what people are not recognizing is that the average american is tired of being blamed for everything. they are tired of paying for all kinds of things that haven't have any meaning to be repaid by the government. people think that you can just print money and it doesn't have

any effect and it has a huge effect. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. you are not just a senator or representative for the estate, you are that the country and they know these bills are going to harm america because we are not going to be able to pay them or it will put us in a bind or there won't be social security in 2026 and they are doing the right thing. people say child care, child care. well, there's pre-k. there's all kinds of programs for children. many daycare's get paid to keep children. they just don't tell you the truth. they put the triggers in their to make people want to buy into what they are doing without telling them the truth.

host: dana, flint, michigan, good morning. caller: i want to raise a red flag. russia is still involved in the elections. i have seen the polls on tv that are just ridiculous. our cable, comcast? trump called it con cast last year. women's, as women, blacks, gays, discriminated against. the channels i cannot get, the movie networks, the other networks, we just need to, we need to do some recounting on the votes. i suspect that the republican party and russia are using people who have passed, who have died during covid and they are probably taking their votes and putting them in their columns.

all the retirees and college students who are volunteering and working with benefits, it's a shortage of school buses. we need to get children laptops so they can attend school. host: jonas, philadelphia, another democrat. you are on. caller: i agree with many other democrats, i think a major reason why yungkin host: --

yungkin was elected, trump could become president again in 2024. host: next caller. caller: those people who say they are afraid trump will be president again, at least when trump was president, he was awake. he knew what was going on. anyway, hopefully he will keep going and we can blow this bolshevik yoke off of this

country and get back to the way we were when things were going good. again, just get the bolsheviks out of power. they destroyed russia years and years ago and now they are looking at trying to do it here and they are doing a pretty good job. host: morris, san diego, republican, you are on the air. what did you think of yesterday's results? caller: i was happy with the virginia turn out. i don't know what's going to happen in new jersey, but my concern is too little, too late. biden went over to glascow empty-handed because he couldn't pass an infrastructure bill, the borders were wide open, more of a problem every day. inflation going through the roof . the grocery stores here haven't been shown to be empty yet, but

the last time i went up there, there were signs that it was becoming that way. the supply chain thing is huge. 90 cargo ships out there just waiting to be unloaded. you can't get a spot at the dog show. i think it might be too little, too late. biden has been in office for less than a year and already the country is on life support. i'm not optimistic about things going or word. i don't think we have to worry about trump becoming president, the country will be up -- upside down by the time 2024 runs around. host: if you cannot get through on the phone lines, you can always send us a text or comment on our social media sites. the text, (202) 748-8003 is for text messages only.

social media, facebook, instagram, @cspanwj is the handle there. the next call is dave calling from south carolina. dave, where are you there? caller: down in the southeast corner. how are you doing? host: fine, how are you? caller: partly cloudy, it's been a while since i talked to you. i have my own governor that annoys me to no end. i know everyone wants to think that it is the echo of doom to come, but i really don't see it that way. who was it,, that set all politics is local? they hit it on the head. host: tip o'neill. former speaker of the house. caller: he was right on target, that's exactly what it was. it wasn't everybody having some

existential upheaval in their thinking about what had to be changed. it's dealing with what their families have to deal with, you are lighting a fuse for a powder keg in my opinion. host: what are your issues with your governor in south carolina? caller: he's entirely, and my opinion, which is, you know, everybody's got one, to me he's entirely too much in favor of what insurance companies want, what power companies want. host: local issues to south carolina. caller: local issues, same is everywhere.

the price of gas. the price of food. inflation is eating us alive. but i don't think it's the end of the world. the tribalism is really holding us back. it's not helping any at all. host: all right, this is david, republican line, north carolina. caller: had to put that in there. [laughter] these people have to understand in 18 months what has happened. it's not a fall down from trump. it's a fall down from biden. the wave that started in virginia will continue. it will probably take the better half of the next year for these other ones to realize how bad it has become. north carolina, it'll be the

same way. our governor will be gone. the south carolina governor will be reelected. that fella, he's a good guy. this has got to stop. host: here's the front page of "usa today," "fierce races prelude to 2022," talking about the senators up for reelection next year. rodney calling in from the suburbs of virginia. did you vote for terry mcauliffe yesterday should mark caller: yes, sir -- yesterday? caller: yes, sir, i did. host: what's your feeling this morning? caller: it was a hard choice.

the democrats have got to get back to the middle of a little bit. from what i see around the area here, a lot of friends and people i know are upset about the immigration issue at the border. we have got to tighten it up. just too many people coming in right now, overcrowding. the roads are getting backed up. and things. people are just getting upset about being told what to do. host: you called on the democrats line, but it doesn't sound like you were all on board for mr. mcauliffe. caller: i have been a democrat my whole life, but i tell you right now, a lot of democrats are getting upset because of things we need to do that aren't getting done with the border and stuff. i'm totally a democrat, been a democrat my whole life, i would like to see them win, like to see us when.

but this foreigner stuff, too many people on the far left in the far right, nobody in the middle once to get along to get anything done and i think that's the reason we lost. like with the school issues here . nobody wants to be told to get shots. that's why the republicans came out on that end. gas, stuff like that? how are the roads going to get paid for without a gas tax? i just don't understand it. they are going about it the wrong way to get things done and if we don't get it straightened out, trump will win next time around. host: one of the strategies of the former governor was to invoke trump into the election. was that effective? caller: no, the trumpers are going to vote for him anyway.

that thing about telling the parents what to teach, it was taken out of context but it came out that way and it made a big difference. like i said, nobody wants to be told what to do. that's the way virginians are. i guess they have always been like that. they just don't want to be told what to do. host: thank you for your time this morning, rodney. mark, independent line. virginia, which way did you vote? caller: congress has to get its act together. they have to make compromises. the left, clinging to the left ideology by not funding infrastructure. china is investing $5 billion every year into infrastructure and we are having difficulty investing that much. it's really tragic that the

congress is not doing its job passing bills. compromise is the name of the game. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are going to look at what's going to get them reelected. so biden, he was in the senate and is supposed to know how to get this done. he needs to get it working. host: which way did you vote in the gubernatorial election yesterday? caller: i don't want to talk about that. host: all right, we appreciate your time this morning. earl, democratic line. there were 14 candidates for mayor in atlanta yesterday. who did you vote for? caller: former mayor reed. host: he came in third? caller: yeah, so far. black men around the country, what they have to look at now is

that we have to have creative thinking. we have seen that the u.s. is ready to destroy itself again all over us. the good news is that there is opportunity in this chaos. if we just ink outside the vox. keep your eyes on atlanta. thank you. -- of the vox. keep your eyes -- keep -- if we just think outside the vox. he still highs on atlanta. -- outside the box. keep your eyes on atlanta. thank you. host: the common sense -- caller: next caller. -- host: next caller. caller: common sense in the elections that are coming up. it's more that all of these people were voting against

socialism, which i think is destroying the country. all of a sudden people want to be socialists? every country in the world was destroyed by it. i don't know why they want to bring it here. that's what i believe. they were voting against socialism more than anything else. that's it. host: what do you think of adams, your new mayor? we will never know. independent line. caller: i feel a lot of people are delusional. this administration is tearing the country apart. bill gates, george soros, not topic -- not talking about the real of what's going on. google, they whitewash it, whatever they want to call it, the stuff you can't find anymore. we need trump back in office. simple as that. you can hate him if you want. i'm african-american, i voted for him.

he did a great job. there will be a revolution if they don't get it together. they don't want to talk about hunter biden or none of that stuff, anything. the american people need to take it in their own hands and really do it. that's all i have to say. host: ray, panama city, democrat, good morning. caller: i agree totally with the gentleman earlier, agree with everything he said. i am scared that we will run into a bad situation if it continues this way coming up on 11 months now, it's deep trouble because of the biden administration. he's a puppet on the strings and i'm not sure who is leading the white house right now. long story short, i'm a democrat

and i'm switching to independent right now. i'm looking out for this country , i believe in this country. we have failed this and i'm scared for the next three years. so, i'm berg -- i'm glad that virginia won and i hope new jersey wins. host: jason, san diego, democrat. good morning. caller: i would like to say something about the democrats and republicans getting together on, a house-senate bill that would be that anybody, anybody caught price gouging during this pandemic will pay $500,000 fine and six months in jail. that's what you got to do to these people. i know that price gouging is

coming on. i know that dick cheney came on because the gas went up and he looked straight to the camera and said that if you are caught raising prices, you are going to jail and that's what they should do. democrats and republicans, do that right now. thank you. host: steve is in illinois, independent line. what is your reaction to yesterday's result? caller: the democrats in the last week, when president obama and everyone else were talking about critical race theory, president obama's daughter got sexually assaulted in a bathroom , in a transgender bathroom by a boy and it was covered up by the student board. i think president would be furious.

i don't think that person would be alive. that father was brutally assaulted by the police officers there. it's a shame. more than that, the media is covering up a lot of things. it's just disgusting that the media is not really covering the fact. we have sky high inflation. sky high gas prices. sky high food prices. i live, i go 75 miles there and back to a walmart at $3.65 a gallon. i spend $65 in gas and i can't afford it. host: all right, steve, illinois, thanks for calling in. jermaine, ohio, democratic line,

give us your reaction to yesterday's election results. caller: well, i think that the reason why the democrats didn't do well is because of the messaging they have been doing across the country. i feel that, you know, they have been doing, they started doing the same thing that trump started doing towards the democrats. basically shading over the truth. so, no people can see that democrats have been doing the same thing as far as the media outlets. and then the fact that there is this mandate going around, people have got to understand that the most precious thing to most people is their life. their body, their children and everything that got's to do with that. once you start telling people that they must put something

inside of their body and then you don't want to discuss it, or you make them seem like they are crazy or there is some type of conspiracists theory because they want to discuss what's in the shot, what the long-term effect is, all that kind of stuff, when you start turning people against that, i think you change, you change the outlook. i've been a democrat all my life and i promise you i will never vote democrat again. host: if i may ask you, i take it you have not gotten the covid vaccine? caller: no, i haven't gotten the covid vaccine. the reason i haven't got the covid vaccine is because of lack of trust. when you see that you are being kind of, when you feel like you aren't being told the whole truth -- host: you are the first person to bring up the vaccine in the last two days of talking about

elections and politics. does that surprise you? caller: yeah, that surprises me. seems like it's the talk. i'm a barber by trade, i talked to all sorts of people coming in . for mostfor most people it is tt vaccine mandate and the shot is because you survive covid, you survive the chickenpox, you don't get the chicken box -- chickenpox vaccine. i've never seen so many celebrities in people of power all on this get the shot. you need to tell me nobody's thinking different? i've never seen one accord so strongly about something and it's kind of scary to think that's what it is because this mandate, this shot for me is scary. how far is this going to go.

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host: the hotline editor for the national journal we will continue our discussion about politics. what is your immediate take away from yesterday's election results not just in virginia but nationwide. caller: -- guest: i think it is clear it was a very good night for republicans and a very rough night for democrats. republicans across the board had a higher performance than the 2020 election. we had a sense democrats were struggling given biden sinking approval numbers, a trend we've seen in multiple polls for months. now we have a bit more confirmation in actual election results. we have glenn youngkin, their public and winning the virginia governor's race.

not exactly a shock given that the polls were pretty accurate in projecting the official outcome. but either way it looks like it was a tight race as we went to last night paid early this morning late last night we saw glenn youngkin gave a really positive message victory speech. i think it will be fascinating to see how he governs a state that may be isn't quite as blue as we thought it would be but definitely a purple blue at this point. host: has terry mcauliffe conceded? guest: last i checked he has not. i will say glenn youngkin has made an acceptance speech very late last night so it's not totally unexpected for the opponent who lost to wait a few

hours. i have not heard any rumors there's a chance of him disputing the results. host: new jersey. last year president biden one by 16 points. it's a tight race right now. guest: i caution against calling it that just because we do not know what the final results are going to be buried -- going to be. i think it's going to be a much closer race than what any of the major polls expected. this was not a race that was as competitive as virginia so there's not as much polling of this race. we have seen a range in what this result could have been. at this point it looks like phil murphy is going to win. it has not been called, it is not official yet trends are

going in his direction. but if he does, a democratic governor should we new jersey. it is a blue state, not virginia or maybe it's recently blue. a real omen for democrats who have struggled in the public eye , in this media narrative we've seen, especially as democrats have struggled to pass signature bills. this was a reality check that these things have consequences. in virginia particulates pretty common for the party that is not the president's party to win the governor's mansion after the presidential election. so i also want to point out that while the climate is certainly not looking good for democrats right now, there is only so much

in their control. this is the first midterm -- approaching the midterm of a new president. democrats have control of the presidency and congress for the first time. they are governing during a pandemic which has major impact on all sorts of issues that voters care about including the economy and education and we are seeing that this is going to be a referendum not on most improved but on what the state of the country is now. this is a pretty tough time for a lot of americans and a lot of people around the world. host: a lot of people did not know who jack was before yesterday. here is a little bit from his speech last night. [video clip] >> we want every legal vote

counted. and you all know the way the bms work and the provisionals work. we have to have time to make sure every legal vote is counted and i am confident that when they are i can stand before you and say we won. [applause] so let me say a couple of things. you know those polls? there's only one that matters. for 22 months, for 22 months that you've been with me all the way we have been up and down this state talking about the issues that matter. i've been recently asked repeatedly but the journalists

jack, he is bringing in this person and that person, who are you bringing in and a very simply say i'm bringing in jack. [applause] i don't need a surrogate, i don't need celebrities, i don't need former president's, all i need is the people of new jersey to listen to the facts all i need is the people of new jersey to listen to what it is we are going to do. we are going to lower property taxes, make this a better place to do business. we are going to support our state and local police. and we are going to get back to basics of teaching critical life skills in our schools, providing vocational training for students that don't want or need to go to college and we will leave that subject matter between -- to the kitchen table. host: since we've been talking,

phil murphy has now pulled ahead in the votes by about 1500 votes. guest: i think that's likely a trend we will see continue. what's interesting about that clip you played. i do think phil murphy is going to end up pulling ahead and staying ahead. we will see for that to be made official. but the messaging that jack used he is echoing a lot of sentiments we heard throughout the 2020 election. which has been a go to phrase -- election integrity has been a go to phrase for those who might not want to attend the -- or allege there was election fraud

in 2020. but it's a way to signal to trump folders that there are some similarities there. i do think he and him losing which i think is likely is not necessarily a knock on him specifically. this was an incredibly difficult race for him and an incredibly difficult state for him. he and glenn youngkin managed to maneuver around trump in a way you are going to see candidates and strategists encouraging republicans to do going into the midterms. given that some of those messages trump supporters like to hear, the ones that get them encouraged to show up at the polls without bringing in trump himself. we saw in virginia, trump held a tele-rally for glenn youngkin.

republicans were really strategic about making sure that the people they were talking to, of the individual voters they were speaking to were the ones who were going to be most accepting of whatever message is being delivered. there were trump surrogates in virginia which rallied voters. but if you look on tv we saw glenn youngkin present him self as kind of a pre-trump type of republican. i would not say moderate because he did not go deep into his positions because of a blank slate. that kind of invokes the pre-trump republican image that could win back suburban voters. we saw glenn youngkin probably lost suburbs in northern virginia by less than trump did which is all he needed to do. and a lot of republicans will do is loose a boat -- suburban voters by last.

and part of that is he managed to kind of harken back to suburban voters. remember when you voted for john mccain or mitt romney bringing back those images and bring enough voters back. host: numbers are on the screen. we have a few minutes left with our guest. your lead article this morning is about the suburbs and republicans hope to move back to the suburbs. also want to ask about this article in the washington post. republicans appear to set to make gains in the virginia house of delegates, 100 seats there. democrats currently 55 to 45. guest: i'm hearing similar things. last i heard the scenario more likely is republicans with a 51

seats. winning the of delegates. that is a huge victory for republicans after they lost the house of delegates in 2019. the state senate isn't up for a couple more years. , crites to have control of that. it's worth noting we are in a redistricting year which means the line for state legislative districts in addition to house districts, congressional district will change. that means it's possible that in addition to having this election in 2023 for the house of delegates there will be another one in 2022 just a year from now under the new lines. so how long that majority lasts is a question. but again the environment hasn't changed much between now and november then republicans will

still probably have the advantage a year from now on house of delegates depending on those new lines. host: when you look at minneapolis and the fact that the police referendum went down, what does that tell you? guest: i think it matches trends we saw really throughout the country. this is not a primary election so we did see them progress to victories earlier in the year in primaries a lot of last nights selections were cementing victories in districts and races that hadn't been decided earlier on in a kind of fact away. democrats have a real enthusiasm issue. it seems there most progressive voters might not have shown up. this is all still based on

unofficial results. it seems like the coalition that showed up of democrats was not as broad as 2020's coalition and was not as enthusiastic. and so you seeing base voters stay home, that's can it be a problem for democrats. the first step for republicans and democrats in 22 if you get there most loyal voters to the polls. that's number one. from there they can work on persuasion. they can work on bringing some of those over to their side or some of those independent voters. but what we saw last night is republicans have a strategy to get those base voters out and have some persuasion whereas democrats it doesn't seem like they -- it did not seem like they had much of their progressive base turn out and it did not seem like much

persuasion. again we can see. host: in the first hour we talked to a lot of voters and a lot of democrats were blaming joe manchin and kyrsten sinema for the loss. what do you think? guest: i think democrats in general are kind of airing their dirty laundry on television and the news and are preventing themselves as a party to be functional. i do think joe manchin is certainly out there been clear about his stances on where he holds the line on his positions on different legislation. a member of the 50 senator majority who represents west virginia, state the trump won by more than 30 points. that makes joe manchin the kind

of decider and that's frustrating for democrats because obviously he does not resent mainstream democratic views. however, without joe manchin, democrats don't have a majority, they don't have the ability to bring legislation. i think there's kind of a reality check democrats needed in terms of how far can progressives in the party go and -- in calling for these changes and at what point among moderates and among progressives do democrats need to maybe get off the airwaves and actually work on getting out legislation anyway that's more productive. >> calls coming in -- paul is coming in from alexandria, virginia. caller: thank you for having me.

i think the forest may be getting lost to the trees. i think it's very critically important is a 40 year lifelong democrat abandoned them about 15 years ago when we realize they were throwing up government dole to get people's votes. what you need to look at is the down ballot in virginia. the turnout in virginia was extraordinary democrats and republicans. they came out in virginia and they got trounced. the first african-american lieutenant governor in the state of virginia. first latino american attorney general in the state of virginia, i don't know how that plays in the rest of the country but i sure it is still unique. virginia has made a loud cry, enough. enough with your taxes, your afghanistan screw ups, your

border. people of had enough. host: got the point. what you think. caller: it was -- guest: it was a historic night. first woman of color is going to be lieutenant governor, but looks like they've major advantage there. it also looks like the votes of the house of delegates and down ballot races is going to be pretty similar to what we saw the top of the ballot. this isn't an issue of voters splitting their tickets. glenn youngkin who they thought was a more moderate republican in their state legislative district was absolutely right. it does seem like the polarization we see in national politics is still alive and well and part of that is kind of

embodied by the frustration that that last caller just expressed here. it's less about individual issues but it's about the kind of collective frustration, of the collective approach democrats are taking that republicans -- some republicans oppose. you can say the same thing about republicans in a sense that there's a bigger culture war and that democrats are also kind of following the same guidelines up and down the ballot. it comes down to polarization throughout the country and nationalization. host: anthony is in mount pleasant, south carolina. caller: good morning. my question is a group -- i was up in virginia a week ago and i saw all of the glenn youngkin

signs and to quickly remember when hillary clinton was running , i saw republican signs everywhere. did this have anything to do that terry mcauliffe was a clinton supporter from that era? because it seemed to me that it really gets rule votes out when someone is associated with clinton. did that have anything to do with this election? guest: in virginia it's a little tricky because the kind of establishment democrats are generally a little more popular than they are in other blueish states. that said, i think the point being made about his ties to the establishment democratic party is spot on. what we saw at the beginning of the campaign lisa beginning of the general election campaign with terry mcauliffe tied himself very closely to biden.

at that point biden had just won the state by a comfortable margin. at that point biden's approval rating were above water. just in june, biden's approval rating on the 538 average was 53% approval. today it is 41%. so at the time it seems like maybe that could be a good strategy. tie yourself to biden. just laying out this blueprint to win in a comfortable way. and then as we saw the previous caller pointed out, there was the massive -- the withdrawal from afghanistan and from there it seems like biden was never able to pick himself up. part of that is democrats continuing to bicker over legislation, not saying it was afghanistan that caused it, but it did correlate with a major drop for biden. at that point terry mcauliffe it already tied himself so closely

to biden that i think it was difficult for him to break out and prove he was separate and had a separate identity that voters who dislike biden or voters who are currently disappointed with biden. that they would end up associating mcauliffe with him no matter what. in some elections that would been a good strategy. in 20 running is kind of the blank slate that will support the president ended up helping a handful of democratic candidates. in this election it looks like democrats potentially needed a superstar candidate. i don't know if that would've helped. given the national environment, and it certainly did not help that mcauliffe was so closely tied to the president whose approval rating continues to dip in public polling. >> michael's in milledgeville

georgia. caller: good morning and thanks for taking my call. ivy short comment and i would like to say the election of glenn youngkin it really doesn't matter to the people on the ground. the people on the ground we are still hurting. is he going to institute, does he really care about dental and vision for seniors? those problems are still going to exist if he is in there. the poor people's campaign is really out there looking on the ground and helping people out. i just hope -- he has to govern. thank you for taking my call. host: any comments for that caller. >> i think that concern that

it's been a year biden made major promises that have not been delivered. host: i think she just froze up and unfortunately we will have to leave it there. if she comes back we will ask her also -- are you back? guest: i am here. host: go ahead and start your answer again. guest: it looks like -- let me make sure this all works. it looks like apathy or the frustration that last caller expressed with republicans and concern about glenn youngkin governing could easily be applied to democrats as well. a frustration that not enough has changed in a year that biden has taken over the presidency and especially after taking some major promises during the

campaign especially when it looks like they would have just democrats would have a significant larger margin in the senate. on that note i think that does reflect some of the potential lack of enthusiasm that probably caused some democrats to either stay home or give it a shot with youngkin. what he did not make clear was his agenda throughout the campaign but we did see last night a kind of different tone in his acceptance speech or victory speech. he talked about education in a way that was actually more about policy, definitely embracing conservative viewpoints, supporting charter schools, school choice, alluding to support for vouchers. but it was a very different tone from what we saw through the campaign. i'm really interested to see what he ends up doing if he ends up becoming more of a larry

hogan, charlie baker type republican or may be more closer to chris sununu in new hampshire who can appease trump but keep them at arms length when necessary. host: democrat, mary you are on the washington journal. guest: -- caller: i'm just calling to make my comment is i think most moderate democrats want that border closed and really closed. they are telling us that it's closed but they are doing just the opposite. we want people coming into the country legally and i think it's a wake-up call for the democrats. guest: in general i think the border is an issue that moves conservatives more than it will

move moderates or democrats at this point. it's not necessarily that voters don't support that point of view. it's actually one of those questions you ask voters a general question whether they agree or disagree with a particular point of view, it doesn't mean that's going to influence the way they vote. so for conservatives especially, we saw that the border and immigration was a huge motivator especially in 2016 but even in 2020, and in this current climate, it looks like for moderates even if they might agree with some of those sentiments, that what is going to push them to turn out is probably a broader economic issue or general kind of mood of the country under democrats. host: i'm sure you've seen the headline at "usa today," but they're giving yesterday's

races, they're saying it's a prelude to the 2022 battle for congress. in your view we read into yesterday's results, prelude for 2022? guest: you should read into it as a temperature check for today. and today we went into the election believing based on polling this was a really tough environment for democrats, the election numbers bore them out. if something does not change for democrats the next year, this certainly is not a good sign for them. it's definitely one of the many tea leaves to read if you're a democrat. these are concerning results. but this is a snapshot in time right now, so we'll see. a lot can change the next year. host: lisa is the editor for the hotline of "national journal." we appreciate your time this morning. guest: thank you.

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lewiston, lewisburg and wellsborrow, pennsylvania. mr. keller, is there a reaction in the republican congress on yesterday's election results, have you talked to any of your fellow republicans? guest: i've had conversation with people, not necessarily republicans but good americans on both sides of the aisle and when you look at what happened in the elections yesterday, it's people -- americans wanted to have their voice heard and they felt they elected the best person that would listen to what their values are and enact those in government. host: politically is it a harbinger of 2022 and what could happen in congress? guest: i think it's a statement of the american people where they felt people have not been responsive, elected officials have not been responsive to what their vision of their government should be, and they elected the person in virginia that will

enact the policies people want and not a top down approach from government. host: we want to talk to you about some of the legislative issues in congress and start this conversation by playing a little video from the democratic conference chair hakeem jeffries, and getting your reaction. [video clip] >> the focus the end of the day we focus on making sure we cut taxes, help families with children and that we love our cause for everyday americans. i think there's widespread agreement those are the right things to be doing on behalf of the american people and technical issues that folks are working through with respect to some of the climate provisions and some of the health care provisions but believe the end of the day we'll find common ground as we always do. host: representative keller, you think common ground is possible for the build back better agenda? guest: i don't know they're

talking common ground in the democrat conference or bipartisanship because there really hasn't been any discussion with the republican input on any of this. it's been a small group of people between senate democrats, house democrats in the white house. so i don't know the common ground. certainly not engaging anybody but democrats to work on this build back better bill. and talking to try to lower taxes for lower wage earners, putting a tax on cattle and on dairy cows and all the other taxes that they want to put in here and wanting to surveil bank accounts, some you spend $28 a day your bank account will be under surveillance and they want to hire more i.r.s. agents to go after these transactions and get the banks to report any transaction, it was $600 and now realize the american people didn't like that and put a number out there like $10,000 in

a year transactions in or out. if you take $10,000 and divide it by a year, it's $28 a day and you drive to work and buy a cup of coffee in the morning and you get lunch and provide continue foreyour family, the i.r.s. will be looking into your bank e are a lot of things in this bill that have not had the line shown on them and the reason we're doing it and the reason it hasn't been done is they can blame what's happened, the american people don't want big government to control their lives. host: if you want to participate with representative fred keller about the legislative agenda in congress, we'd love to hear from you. numbers on the screen, 202-748-8000 for democrats and 8001 for republicans and 8002 for independents.

we'll also scroll through the text number and social media sites as well. if you send a text please include your first name and city. congressman keller, when it comes to infrastructure, what would you like to see in a bill? guest: what i'd like to see in a infrastructure bill is first we define what infrastructure is. we can agree on wastewater and fresh water and agree on broadband access to the energy grid. and the term that's been used it human infrastructure and we're talking about daycare and what we'd call infrastructure, let's divide the two things out and have discussion on that. we want to make sure it's what our founders intended and that everyone's representative and every state senator would have work on the legislation and go through the committee of jurisdiction and not be a bill written in private we haven't

seen the full text to and they're still working on the framework. there's a lot of things to talk about and why it would go on infrastructure. host: an article from "the washington times," a lot of natural gas comes out of pennsylvania. oil and gas rules to cut methane emissions unveiled. the biden administration presented sweeping regulations targeting the oil and gas industry tuesday in an effort to cut back on the emissions of methane. guest: you're right in the 12th congressional district every day up to 12% of the natural gas comes out of pa-12. energy is a huge boom for not just northeast and north central pennsylvania but a national security issue. if you look what happenedded in 2019 it was the first time in my lifetime america was energy independent and you have to go to 1957 before that a and when

it was energy independent and we talk about earnings and people being able to afford a sustainable living and job sustaining wages in their jobs, when you talk about that, energy is an important part of that and you look at the emissions that have been reduced by the united states even in the trump administration after he took us out of the paris climb item cords, we're the only nation that met the paris climate accords and weren't even in it. if this administration really cares about the environment like they say they do and if the democrats say they care about it the way they say they do they would embrace america's energy where we do it better than anybody else on the face of the earth and more safely and better for the environment and lieu what happens and what we've done in america at reducing emissions, that's what we need to focus on. we wouldn't be saying no. president biden said no to an american pipeline and yes to a russian pipeline and no to energy development on federal

lands and then calms opec and says can you produce more oil for us? china is right now building coal fired power plants to meet their energy needs. if we're serious about that, we wouldn't be putting america in our industry energy and independence and national security at risk. host: let's go to the republican line, you're on with congressman fred keller, warren. [. caller: if i heard the congressman right, it sounds like he said the democrats didn't invite them to the table. let me say this do you really want to go to the table with the democrats? because that's when y'all win elections, right? you deny, deny, deny and then, you know, the next election cycle you act like well, didn't call us to the table but do you

want to come to the table with us? guest: the issues we're discussing are not republican or democrat but american issues and everybody is represented. i'm an american representative in congress, i'm not -- that's my responsibility. and i'm willing to work on legislation that benefits all americans, the people i represent and everybody across our nation. i should first look at it as what are we doing for good troy polamalu not representing one party but the american people. that's my record of working together and making sure we advocate for good policy. i'm willing to work on policy across the board with people that are serious about getting things done for the american people. host: fred keller, we're coming up on the debt ceiling vote. should the democrats simply pass that themselves or should the republicans be a part of that? guest: i would look at what we're looking at with the debt ceiling because there's a lot of things rolled into this. we have the speaker and

president saying they want to spend $5 trillion and it's not going to cost anything. and they're making statement this is is debt from previous administrations, if it's a debt from previous administrations give me a number and let me know what it is for the debt limit to be raised. but if people are serious about getting back to what will put us on the rightth, which means regular order and having everybody's input on these things we need to be careful what we do with our debt limit. the fact america would default if we don't raise the debt limit. america would have to do what every business and family does in america and say hey, look, prioritize our spending and pay for those things first and that would be debt service taking care of our seniors and veterans and military and prioritizing how we do our spending. if they want to have a discussion with that, don't invite us in the room just to pay the bill but invite us into

the room to how we get back to financial stability and get back to the american people. you can't have us just coming for the debt limit. with the debt limit, they want to go until december of 2022. so if you were a small business owner and you wanted to increase your business and grow your business and go to the bank and tell the bank, i'd like to go buy machinery and increase my business. and they say what do you need? give me a limit until december 2022 without a plan. we need a plan on how to enact things and if there's deliverables and the government is held accountable to meet those performance metrics, before we're willing to shell more money out. it wouldn't work in any other thing we do in our lives and we need to look at how we do things in government differently. host: al calling in, a republican. caller: i'm wondering how we'll get the message out because

every time all these talking points, all they are are no talking points. we need to get underneath and find out. how do we get that out there? i think washington journal is one of them that needs to say this is what everything is going to cost and "the washington journal" is not doing it and when a republican steps up, we're just conspiracy theorists. luckily we have somebody like manchin that's a democrat that has his big boy panties on and is looking at this the right way like the old democrats used to look at it. how are we going to get the message out there on what this is actually -- we say it's going to cost this, cost that, trillions, they told them trillions like it's nothing. host: thank you. fred keller? guest: the first thing in getting the message out is making sure the leader and

schumer weren't successful in ramming this through and we had time and the american people have had time to see what's in this. as leaders we need to be communicating the truth to everybody about what is in this bill and what it's going to cost and what it's going to do. that's what i do with my communications and the truth about it is, it's going to cost money. you can't say you're going to spend $5 trillion and it's going to cost zero and have no impact on it. the american people are thoughtful and hard-working, intelligent people and know when somebody is not telling them the truth. the truth of the matter is this package the democrats want to pass is going to add to our debt and put debt on our children and grandchildren and we need to be careful about the policies we want to put in place. we're concerned about our kids paying for their college debt. the next generation, if we go on this reckless spending path they'll be paying for their grade school debt and we need to make sure the powers we put in

place empower people, less government legislation and control your government through inflation or regulation and more economic independence to the individuals. host: we received a tweet from jersey girl in p.a. and she writes in, since there have not been appreciable changes to pennsylvania's supposedly unconstitutional election laws since 2020, will the representative be challenging the 2021 results last year, after all how do we know there wasn't fraud again? guest: the first thing i'll talk about and i'm assuming the vote in the electoral is certifying electors. let's talk about what happened in 2020. i never talked about how the elections were conducted in each county. what i talked about is what our govern governor did and his reactions are not in dispute as

far as taking a look and saying we'll use post marks and receive ballots a time after election day and actually creating election law by itself and was in violation of the pennsylvania constitution and the u.s. constitution, article 2, says that the electors and appoint ago legislators, it's the responsibility of the states and specifically the legislators of the states, not the executives. so the constitution is not in question. the actions the governor took are not in question and our top attorney general did nothing and our supreme court did nothing. when it came to certifying our governor's accountable, and if they're doing that and taking away the john glenn assembly, what are they doing it to the other 12 million americans they represent. but i didn't do anything to change the outcome of an election. president biden got 306 electoral votes. i voted not to certify the gentleman from pennsylvania because the actions the governor

took are not in dispute and the constitution is not in dispute. you take 306 and subbracket 20, it's 286, enough for president biden to still be president of the united states. that's how i would say about how the election and my objection from the state of pennsylvania. host: this is chris from horton, kansas. hi, chris. caller: hi. host: please go ahead. caller: i want to quit with the crap of no, no, no on everything that goes through the house and senate and congress and everything else. we have a senator here, marshall, more worried about the shots'. there's a pandemic going on. host: congressman keller, how much -- we've had one caller -- that's the second one, in two days mention the pandemic and covid. how much are you hearing about that from the constituents at this point?

guest: the first thing we're hearing is we know the virus is real. but the other thing we're not hearing is the steps we've taken with the cleans or their ability to keep themselves safe and their communities and families safe. i have the confidence in the american people they can make the decisions that are right for their family, their loved ones, the people that work in a business. think about what was happening last year during the pandemic. we had people showing up at the hospitals doing the work and without a vaccine. we had businesses that were able to provide our goods and services that we need every day for our lives. they were able to do it then. now a year later when there's an opportunity for vaccines and we know there's therapeutics and other things and know a lot more about the virus, we now don't trust those individuals to go to work and do what they need to do. the coronavirus is real but

we've learned a lot since it happened. they are therapeutic and there's a vaccine. and i think there are decisions to help people run their lives and see how they see fit and run their families and communities. host: julie is from reeled, democrats line, good morning, you're on with congressman fred keller. caller: good morning, i'm actually a republican but that's ok. i wanted to say thank you to you getting on the show and, you know, defending what you do because we need that in this country. you know, i'm very ashamed the way this country is acting light now because it's a disaster. it's amazing to me that biden even is in that white house. i don't think he's competent and i'm old enough to remember way back in 2017 when steve ask

lease was almost skilled by a -- when scalise was killed by a bernie sanders -- but he never cried about it but got better and came back to work. and nobody talks about that. but every time they say that january 6 was an insurrection, i get heated because it was not. it was a peaceful protest. and i am so sick and tired of these news medias telling everybody that trump is a bad orange man or was a bad orange man. trump did a lot for this country. i had my doubts but he did a lot for this country. host: congressman keller? host: what happened guest: what happened january 6, i don't condone that and i don't

think there's anybody in congress that condone what is happened january 6. that was a sad day in our republic to see what happened at the capitol. and you mentioned steve scalise. he didn't blame anybody but the person that committed that act against him. and that goes back to president reagan when he said, you know, we have to restore the american precept that a person is responsible for their actions and hold them accountable for it. that's really what we need to look at it. everything that goes wrong is not a societal problem but people are responsible for their actions. we don't condone bad behavior from anyone and we shouldn't. and what we need to do is make sure that we're listening to what the people that we represent want thousand work on, work on those items. and it's just really for me an honor to be able to do the work i do and the reason i do this is because i believe in america. i've realized the american dream and there are so many people out there that deserve us as leaders

to be able to protect our republic so we can hand it to the next generation in at least as good of shape it was given us and the greatest generation did such a great job, our parents did, and i want to make sure i do that and do the work of the people. host: a few more minutes left with our guest, tim is in lakeview, arkansas, independent line. good morning, tim. caller: good morning representative keller. thank you. i appreciate what you did by not certifying the electors in pennsylvania. yes, they ran an unconstitutional election but there were several other states that ran constitutional elections and unfortunately january 6 riot was not there to keep you from certifying -- the riot was there to prevent you from certifying. it's a false flag, this so-called riot and noninsurrection. there's other things to being about.

on the packages they're trying to tax and spend now, listen, i would be happy, spend nothing. the democrats are going so far for the marxists they need a yankback. spend nothing, agree to nothing. they need to pass nothing. we've already spent trillions on this pandemic relief. there's no more pandemic, it's again. there's no reason for the government to pick winners and losers by supporting one therapy, and this is a therapy, not a vaccine. it's no virus and not a vaccine. we are in the clinical trial. this is a federally mandated clinical trial from the american people on a therapy that we don't know the results are going to be in a couple years. host: all right. tim, we're going to leave it there. congressman keller, any response for that caller? guest: i would just say that one, i've already discussed and addressed the january 6 thing of

how horrific that was and, you know, when we look at the pandemic, people in america are looking to be able to get back to doing what they do best and that's supporting their families, going to work, living in the communities and just having a government that is responsive to their needs and their requests. and that's what we're here for. and i think that we all need to realize that it's the people of the united states that make up the federal government, not the federal government appointed to rule over them. host: david in napoleon, ohio, please go ahead, david. caller: how are you doing? thank for you allowing me to join your show this morning. i watch it from time to time and when republicans are on tv they have a tendency to democrat bashing. does the republican party have any concrete sayings they can

explain to the constituents in detail that we would under that would benefit them and the other voters of the united states? guest: i appreciate that. and you'll find for me, to me it's not a republican or democrat issue, it's an american issue and our policy should reflect what is best for the american people. and when you look at the plans the republicans have, absolutely. the plans are to have responsible budgets that go through regular order that will control the spending. it's also -- because we here in america don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. that's important to note. so we collect a lot of -- after the tax cut and jobs act, the treasury brought in more money than it did the previous year. that's just a thing we need to -- our plans have lower taxes, fewer regulations but

fewer than them but a responsive government that trusts the people because we here in washington, d.c. don't create jobs. we're not the ones that built the greatest economy in the world, the greatest nation in the world, that was done by the american people and was done when you unleash the freedom of them to have more control over their resources and their lives and they'll go to work and dot right things that will protect their environment and create the wealth and revenue to fund our government and we saw it in 2019, wages rising for everybody and america was doing really well. and we can get back to that. and the way not to do that is -- to not be lumping more debt and spending money without knowing what we'll spend it on an cost the american people. we need to look at sounda good . we need to look at energy, policy that puts american energy

at the forefront because we do it better than anyone else. we could become energy independent which means less national security, less pollution around the globe. a lot of things with these policies that we have. our policies are centered on the fact that we believe in the american people. the fact that they care about one another. host: have you seen a drop off in a natural gas production in the past year? guest: we have seen some of the wells, there may not be as many wells being produced right now. you will see a drop off if we are no longer allowed to drill for oil and gas on federal land. there might be some leases out there where we are still producing. the fact of the matter is when you start not to have new leases you will see that drop off. taking a look at what has happened already, we have seen energy prices increasing.

right now, we are seeing the fact that it is reported depending on how you heat your home you could spend up to 50% more this year than you did last year. america is not as energy independent as it was before. host: stephen, in illinois, independent line. caller: i want to talk about energy. we haven't developed any new technologies as far as the production of energy. it is always the same old things , fossil fuels, fossil fuels. where do you get the natural gas from? you don't just really well, they frack. they have to fracture rock. all the spilling of all of that gas into the atmosphere gets wasted. not only wasted, pollutes. that is why we have a climate problem. you keep doing the same thing, you will get this result. we are supposed to be good stewards of this world.

not for the sake of money, it is ridiculous. we truly have energy independence, we would not have as many people -- greedy people to serve. guest: we are doing things differently than we did before. we didn't have a horizontal drilling. you would have more disturbance on the surface where it is cutting down trees and other things. you look at the fact that we will be reducing emissions. there are things called railroad minerals that are needed. i think we need to look at everything in place. i know a place in pennsylvania, they are talking about carbon sequestration and paying people to keep forests. in pennsylvania there's a place where they are clearcutting 3000

acres of forest land to put up solar panels. we can't just point to one thing and say this is a problem because this is what is polluting our environment. we have a need for energy. we need to look at is policies that will allow america to produce energy. we do it better than anybody on the face of the earth. when we abandon those policies and let people like china, russia, and the middle east do that, it is about global warming. we should embrace american technology, american ingenuity, american know how to get it done more safely. rather than just say not in my back yard. host: in wisconsin rapids, wisconsin, democrat. caller: i was just going off on a different tangent talking about the debt ceiling and spending the money on --

everything kind of connects when you talk about climate change and everything else. they don't want to spend the money on american people to help families. it is a fraction of what president trump spent. i have yet to hear where all of that money went. i would really like an answer to that question. host: thank you, we will leave it there. final words? guest: on the money that was put out under the american rescue plan, there is still money out there which will be the reason why we don't need to hurry up and spend more money. that is one thing. we can talk about universal health care and childcare and everything else. it does not make it more affordable. we are going to do is rely on the government to pay for child

care. the jumper -- the government will have more choices over how to pay, the childcare they get, or the health care they get. let's take a look at health care. this is an important point. charlie gardner, two youngsters under their health care system, the doctors thought they were not going to survive. what happened was the doctors took the parents to court. what happened was the government judge said you have to disconnect your child from life support. because the government said they had to disconnect them, when my son was three he had a brain injury. if i would've lived in the u.k. it probably would've been somebody that said we have to disconnect our son from life support. he was on a ventilator for 26

days. do you know what happened? we had control over his health insurance because the government did not control it. he came through that after multiple discussions. the hospital saved his life. when we put the power in the government, the government is making those decisions. when we trust the people enough, they will make the decisions. it does not make it more affordable. host: representative fred keller is a republican from pennsylvania. thanks for being with us. guest: i appreciate the opportunity. host: we will continue our discussion with members of congress. up next is brenda lawrence, a democrat from michigan. that is next on "washington journal." ♪ >> you could be a part of a national conversation by participating in c-span's student video competition.

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inclusive. i am confident that he will continue to serve the people. host: what is your overall reaction to yesterday's election results? particularly virginia and new jersey gubernatorial elections? guest: it is about the people choosing what is most important to them. it was a good litmus test to see what is moving the needle of america. the people have spoken. host: will it hurt the democratic agenda on capitol hill that the republicans did relatively well? guest: we have yet to prove to the american people that we are going to take care of this

country through the most transformational and important legislation that is going to be transformational for generations to come. i'm not worried about the democratic agenda. i'm anxious to get the bill passed that shows people and is able to say this is who we are in the party and this is how we take care of america. host: should we expect to see a vote on the infrastructure bill on reconciliation on social spending? should we expect to see any votes take place this week? guest: i am told by leadership it will happen this week. we are moving forward. i'm very excited about the opportunity. host: i want to play a video for you. this is a least a phonic -- elise stefanik, i want to get

your reaction. >> house republicans have been disciplined and unified in exposing joe biden and nancy pelosi's failed leadership. the american people are listening. we're just nine months into joe biden's presidency and 71% of americans say this country is headed in the wrong direction. joe biden and house democrats it is crisis after crisis. the american people are taking notice. when asked in the newly released nbc poll which party would do a better job of handling the issues that are most important to american families, republicans way the issue by issue by double digits. order security, republicans lead democrats by 27 points. on inflation, republicans lead by 24 points. on crime, republicans lead democrats by 20 two points. on national security, republicans lead democrats by 21

points. on economy, republicans lead democrats by 18 point. when asked which party is most effective on getting things done, that had republicans leading democrats by 13 points. host: what is your reaction to what congresswoman stefanik had to say? guest: it is interesting she talks about the president of the united states who has been in office for eight months. in addition to that when you say get things done, if you ask another question of the american public, the things republicans get done -- especially under the trump administration, he may have got them done but hasn't had the best impact on our country? i am so excited about the bill -- we will have the opportunity to vote on it that will be transformational. regardless of democrat and republican.

childcare has been one of the most pressing and challenging issues in america. the fact that we are going to address childcare in america is a family issue. it is a man, it is a woman issue. we are going to transform education. universal pre-k. thing about how long ago this country said every child in america would get a free education from kindergarten through the 12th grade. now, we are moving the needle. we are going to prepare our children at a younger age, which will accelerate their capabilities and their success in education. we are training a workforce. i will tell you when it comes to us as a party being in tune with the people, it will be

continuing these four years that we have joe biden as our president that he will lead the party. the other thing i want to say, we pride ourselves on being the party of the big tent. we are inclusive of so many voices. guess what? we make sure they are heard. some people are like you just can't agree on anything. what we are doing is we are showing democracy internal. we will work together. we listen to each other. what is the impact we are going to have on our country? host: you served as mayor of southfield, michigan. he served as city council president, you're president of the southfield education board. can you get more done as mayor than as a member of congress? guest: we need all levels of government.

in the mayor i was uniquely in tune to every aspect of what was happening in the city. we can't kick the can down the road. the federal government we could say the state has work to do. the state could take it down to the mayor and say you have work to do. there is no place to kick the ball. i would say that mayors are uniquely in tune to the voice of the people. i wish that in this house that i serve, i set it with such gratitude that the people in this government, in the house of representatives in congress would listen uniquely to the people and not to their political agenda.

host: as a former school board president, what is your reaction to what was going on in loudoun county, virginia with what was going on with the school board and the attorney general's reaction? guest: being on the school board was probably the hardest job i had in all of the positions. every decision you make has an impact on children. it impacts the life of a young person in america. i took seriously the responsibility to educate. education doesn't mean we restrict the information or the facts to a certain party or agenda. the good, bad, and ugly. i'm an african-american in these united states of america. my history is not one that i walk around and scream and holler and say what a great life

my ancestors had in a country. i love america. i study with unique attention. to the movement throughout our economies in america. what it has enabled me to do, first of all to have compassion, intelligence, and to be committed to learning. we do not -- i would say to any parent, i don't want my child to be burdened with any uncomfortable information. your child will grow up as an adult who will have to make decisions. a child who is in a decision-making role. they have never learned the history of this country.

we have the make critical decisions with data. think about -- i had some very valuable advice. when i gave birth to a child and he was a male, a woman tells me you are not raising your son. you are raising a man. you are raising a child who will turn into a man. given the respect, honor, information and love to blossom. to the person he has created to be. host: let's take some calls. congresswoman brenda lawrence. thomas is in texas on our republican line. caller: good morning, how are we doing? one thing i could admire about trump is he went out there and said this is what we does regardless of what it was.

if you want people to go to school, make sure the schools are safe. make sure they eat it. it's all right to say -- where is the money? get it done. thank you. host: congresswoman? guest: i would say looking at president biden, who has been in office eight months, the american rescue plan, how many of you received checks in the mail? how many of you have gotten the vaccine? how many of you have seen the death rate in america reduced so when people are saying president biden didn't get anything done, look at where we have transformed from. when he entered office from where we are now that america is opening up. america is getting back to work. the economy is staying in the

right direction. i did not agree with policies that president trump enacted. i will tell you, we need to get this bill passed. we have infrastructure build. we will. i will have a conversation with you and we will say my goodness, biden and the democratic party are really working and getting the job done. host: doug is calling in from south dakota, democrats line. you are on with congresswoman lawrence. caller: good morning. i already mentioned about kicking the can down the road. $30 trillion in debt, when are we going to start paying that off? second question, social security is about ready to go in bankruptcy. how we start paying that off?

i see you guys are working across the aisle with issues right now. some places over there where we stole the land. should the black and white people give all of this land back or should they get reparations. i guess that is my question, everybody have a good day. guest: thank you, so much. host: any response? guest: i want to be very clear that we have a tax structure in america that does not pay back equally to the american -- one of the things that democratic party and joe biden has been very clear in, we saw warren buffett -- one of the most wealthy people in america have a tax structure that requests less of him than his secretary.

she was making maybe 1/8 of what the worth of warren buffett. that is what we are looking at. a lot of people talk about social programs as if it is the devil. we were giving too much to these people. the more people we left out of poverty, the stronger our economy is. the stronger the economy is, the more we could pay down our debt. homelessness, we have a major investment in the build back better plan how is the wealth in america built from the bottom up? it is with ownership. we are going to address that. we are going to address putting women back to work.

we know that during this pandemic, we have had millions of women leave the workforce. not making money, not contributing. now sitting at home, in most families, we are two income families. lastly, we need to have a conversation about reparations when it comes to african-americans and it does not always equate to 40 acres. the conversation i want to see happening, why are we the most imprudent race in america. why are we disproportionately the largest in poverty. when you look at our educational outcome and you look at slavery, they denied homeownership, they denied education. they denied employment and somebody different places. we need to have a real conversation about what happens

in america when it comes to african-americans and slavery in america. what do you think about the former -- host: what do the about the former sheriff in wayne county, an african-american running for governor as a republican? guest: he was the police chief of the city of detroit. host: sorry about that. guest: i am very much in support of our current governor, governor whitmer. she stood up and fought for our state. she has been a tremendous leader. i would not be supportive of the former chief of staff police for governor. host: jackie is calling in from columbia, maryland. caller: how are you both? i am an independent but i vote -- vote republican or democrat depending on the issue.

in the primary here you cannot be an independent. my problem with democrats is they don't address the issue of fear, which is driving the republicans, the people who are in the middle. they are fearful and you all act like people are not full of fear. they don't really have a plan for the border. i don't know what cause the border to be the way it is other than theory. you don't address it. you have to address the issue people care about. they are afraid of losing their position. white people in particular. they are terrified they will be a minority. when you see people coming up from the border -- you are ignoring the real fear. you energize them by ignoring them. democrats do not have a long game. i'm so disappointed in them. they don't address the issues

people care about. guest: i care about childcare. dental and vision, which should be in social security. we should be speaking about those things and not just talking about abortion and childcare. there are not enough people who vote in that demographic that will get you over. host: let's hear from the congresswoman. guest: i find the comment about fear of being a minority, i have a double minority. i'm african-american and i'm a woman in america. our history in this country has been one that is challenging at best. i survived. i survived because of democracy. i survived because of our freedoms and policies. guess what? i don't resonate with the fear of being a minority.

i do resonate with the fear of a border that we should be protecting. i am working with my party to find leadership and understand that when there was a republican president and democratic president, kicking the can down the road in terms of border security, unfortunately has been the norm. i will continue to push for having a secure border. i also want to tell you that one of the things i fought for, care for our children. childcare and eldercare. when we get at the end of our lives and we need care. now with the way women and those who are children are working and whatever, we have care. looking at not only the issue of child care, they have been very

prominent in the build back better plan. in addition to that, we have talked about providing relief for prescription drugs. today the senate has agreed to bring forth a plan that will address prescription drugs for those who are older and in the last parts of our lives. those who are young and have health care issues. prescription drugs are very important issues. we have been able to get one part. the vision, caring, and dental. we are able to get one of those three in our plan. i have to admit the reason why people are not hearing the worth and what we are doing, i talked to the american people.

we have a plan to talk about childcare, to talk about the education of our children. talk about prescription drugs, climate control, to push through all of these different voices together to make sure we are taking care of america for decades to come. host: a few minutes left with our guest, congresswoman brenda lawrence. you are on the washington journal, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think the most important thing we need to address before anything else is taking care of the insurrection. i don't think they will restore that with most americans until there is actual accountability.

that was horrifying. i was in my living room when it happened. running free, running from mar-a-lago to whatever golf course. somebody needs to tie that man down and put him in a cage. host: congresswoman? guest: you watched it from your tv screen, i watched it on the floor. fearing that mob banging on the door. the fear of running down the back hallways with capitol police to get to safety. accountability for what happened on january 6 his wife nancy pelosi appointed as special commission to study this. they're doing a great job under the leadership of daniel thompson. we get accountability for all of the grief of the injuries and

debt america needs answers. accountability has to be had. caller: good morning, i have been a democrat all of my life. i understand what they are trying to do. it is good. they are missing the full mark. they have nothing for people on a fixed income. everything is just high. they have programs for people in childcare. for the fixed income people, the elderly, we are totally out of everything. we don't get anything unless you are giving it to all. the ones on fixed income, we are herding out here.

gas, medical, the whole nine yards. guest: we are looking at issues that impact the least of us. democrats are the only ones bringing these issues forward. let's talk about housing. we were the ones that said you could not evict someone during this time. we were the ones who stepped up and said for covid, you did not have to pay. let's move forward to our plan for the build back better. we know we must invest in housing. we were taking care of care for those in eldercare. do you know how many working poor we have in america? they go to work every day to be

independent and they are still in poverty. based on what poverty is in america. homelessness around this country because of the housing market. we know that prescription drugs is something that has impacted america. i have heard from families, the whole salary goes for prescription care, medical care for the child. there is more and more medical challenges and bills. it is something we are pushing for. a person that enters the room holds the hand of an elder.

sometimes until their last breath. the disrespect of making eight dollars an hour when we know they cannot live and take care of their families. we are really invested. looking at dental, vision for seniors. we know we must invest in those as they get older in age so they could have a quality of life. please listen to what we are doing in this bill and investing. you talk about gas? electric vehicles. the infrastructure for charging stations across this country like we did. we could do this. then we won't have to spend the amount of money affecting our environment with gasoline. we are moving the agenda

forward. joe biden, nancy pelosi, and the democratic party. we are working for the people. host: one minute left, go ahead edna. caller: the lady speaks of electric vehicles. as she looked at the price tags of those for people that are on social security like me? she talks about 67. my husband is 71. we can't afford a new vehicle. we drive the older ones that require gasoline. so does 90% of your folks. you speak of accountability, someone has to pay that bill at some point. it is going to come back to the american people either in taxes or something else. it is great that you're are looking at medicine. i take six prescriptions in the

morning. thank god i'm able to get around. thank god i'm able to get up and down and do my housework. however, you look like you are about my age bracket, you are a beautiful lady. i don't think you folks are looking at the whole game. i have been a republican all of my life for the fact that we are conservative. host: we will have to leave it there and get a final word from congresswoman lawrence. guest: thank you for your call. for your vision of what we talk about electric vehicles, we know that this is a process. we are looking out to 2030. the longer we produce these vehicles, they will bring down the cost. we are not saying throw away your gasoline vehicle. we have an infrastructure for gasoline. we have to think forward. we have to think about the

future. we are planning for that. the children in the next generation will not be held hostage for gasoline. that part of leadership is having a vision. having a vision not just for now but for tomorrow. electric vehicles will be transformational. i own a vehicle that is gasoline. my granddaughter, all she talks about is she wanted to be an electric vehicle. in her mind, using gasoline is heard -- and hurting the environment is not acceptable. host: congresswoman brenda lawrence, we appreciate your time this morning. guest: thank you to everyone who called in and thank you for

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include your first name and city for text only. we also have some social media sites, facebook, twitter, instagram. that is what you need to remember for that. we are talking about elections all morning. a couple of members of congress. a lot of public policy going on, on capitol hill and around the country we want to get your views on. let's start with lonnie in north carolina. a democrat, good morning. caller: i want to talk about the subject of root republicans and democrats seem to be scared to talk about. that is the voting issue. everything the lady talked about is good and dandy. what people don't seem to realize -- joe biden i have to say is on the privileged end. they are not talking about the voting rights. nothing is possible without the

voting rights. people say they want this or want that. that is fine, i understand that. everything we do depends on voting. if the republicans in any republican state does not like who is being chosen, they have the right, these state legislators, to change the vote. look at georgia, arizona, texas. host: are you advocating for the passage of hr one? caller: yes. that is an american right, it is to vote. host: thank you for your time. william is in smithville, tennessee on the independent line. caller: this is william, i just bought quite a bit about if he

would put his feet on the desk and let everything roll like most of the last administration. had a good border wall going. we talk about this in a change to electric cars, that is fine and dandy. look at china. china is part of this world, too. if we could stop this pollution -- if you can't stop this pollution in the usa, how will he stop it in china? that is about all i got to say. host: thank you for calling in. jenny is in wilmington, ohio. we are talking about public policy, politics, whatever is on your mind. caller: i am a senior on a fixed income. i don't see anyone in our

government speaking about the things that seniors are worried about. who is going to help us? we don't have -- with the increases in our income keeping up with inflation in our country , i don't know what the government is considering for seniors. especially seniors that fall just outside of the poverty level. definitely are not well off this country. i would like someone to speak about that, thank you. host: monique in st. louis, democrat. caller: good morning, how are you? host: how are you? caller: i'm well. i had a quick statement. earlier in the 7:00 hour you had a call talking about how they don't want the government telling us what to do as far as the covid vaccine shot and all

of that. isn't the government already telling us what to do? we have to have vaccinations for measles, we have to be immunized. the government mandates that. go to daycare and if you're working on education, we didn't volunteer to do those things. we were told by the government that we must do it. why is covid any different? i don't understand where people are getting their thoughts from. we have already been mandated. that is all i have. host: have you seen resistance in st. louis to getting the covid vaccine? caller: absolutely.

it is confusing and mind-boggling. we have been doing this. you have to have them immunized. they came out with the hpv a couple of years ago. that was the new requirement. we didn't have an option unless it is a medical or religious reason. we are told by the governor you have to be immunized against these infectious diseases or you cannot partake in school. parents could be held accountable. why do we think covid is such a big obstacle? they are not telling us everything. back then people didn't know what was in the rubella or polio vaccine. they have to start somewhere. people need to stop it.

we all need to focus on getting america back to being healthy, getting everybody back to work, protecting our future. host: thank you. keith is in evansville, indiana, republican line. caller: i would like to say the president we have now has failed the american people miserably. he should go down to the border and take a look but he doesn't have time. i could go on for 20 minutes of everything he has messed up. he is the worst president ever. a suggestion, c-span needs to get diamond and silk. they were on newsmax the other night and they hit every topic they had. host: did you read their book when it came out? caller: i haven't read their book but they are on the ball.

host: they had a book that came out last year and we interviewed them live and took calls. karen in north carolina, democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. i did have a question on the information from our last representative you are speaking with. how are we looking at the cost for electric vehicles to be charged and how are we looking at the volume of charging citizens and who is responsible to depend for it? host: what do you think the answer should be? caller: i feel the government will get involved. this will take some serious considerations. the u.k. had what we see around the world, the last player on the field or we will take responsibility for being actively involved in making this

a more favorable country. i feel that we should be. there should be some underwriting for those who are hesitant in making the change. host: craig in idaho, independent line. caller: hi, i just wanted to say something to you guys, the american people. we need a new president. this guy is running our country in the ground. i cannot understand why people cannot see what he is doing. what his whole administration is doing. these guys are millionaires, 30 times over. they are not listening to us. the gas prices, the food prices, this stuff will keep getting worse. winter is coming. there will be a lot of people i

guarantee just like what happened in texas last year. there will be a lot of people that will be freezing out there because there's not going to be enough gas to heat their homes. we are not ready to give up gas on vehicles either. maybe 20 years from now that could happen. some of these ideas could work. we are not ready for it. the country was running so great . we are in big trouble in this country. i don't think people were paying attention to what could happen to us. letting all of these people come over the border is asinine. we are starting to think we won't have a country left. if you have kids in this country you should be very fearful. host: that is craig in idaho. this is from "the washington post," schumer is leaning more towards the left.

senate majority leader chuck schumer has firmly cast his lot with the growing liberal block in his caucus that is increasingly comfortable with the more muscular federal government and the higher taxes and spending needed to underpin them. he has repeatedly advocated for a bold economic agenda that could show how government could play a productive role in their lives he has orchestrated a delicate legislative process. chuck has been out there for years making the case that government could be a positive force. a former schumer aid, a 2000 seven book about building a middle-class majority. the universe of what is possible has expanded in this moment in particular coming out of a once in a century crisis both requires and allows for solutions that are of a different scale than anything we

have seen in a long time. schumer strategy is hanging by a thread to moderate senators man chin and the sinema bought at the spending level. on monday he threatened to tank the build back better bill entirely. after spending months in close consultation with schumer over what sort of bill he might be willing to accept. the precarious moment has exposed senator schumer to new criticism inside of the democratic ranks with both the political from this side of the political spectrum. some liberals are airing frustration at the majority leader has not been able to do more to keep joe manchin and kyrsten sinema on board. that they have advocated.

moderates believe schumer among other party leaders believe he should have been more clear from the start about the thin margins in both the house and senate and scaled-back ambitions accordingly. that is in the washington post this morning. jack is calling in from illinois, democrat. caller: i have one comment i would like to make. it is my understanding as -- that a senator should not be holding voting when he owns a coal company he bought two years ago. naturally he is not for climate. this guy is one of the finest republicans i have ever seen. he's not going along with anything. his state is one of the poorest in the united states. he's doing a hell of a job for himself. what is wrong with the rest of the senate going after people like that?

he's not supposed to be voting on climate if you bought a coal company two years ago. host: this is tom in north carolina, republican line. what policy issue is on your line? caller: you know how much an electrical car cost? nobody could afford them anyway. a gallon of propane in north carolina is three dollars and $.69, thank you joe biden. what happens in this election? it will pave the way for 22 and 24. republicans are going to show light to the democrats in 2022 in 2022 and 2024. joe biden hasn't done anything for us while he has been up there. electric cars start about $35,000. who could afford to buy that? host: this is dave in fort myers

beach, florida, independent line. go ahead. caller: talking about fossil fuels and coal, one thing that has not been addressed is why can't the scientists and the engineers continue to improve the ways they could take away the pollution that it is creating. the scrubbers in the coal tanks, the gas tanks. i think they could develop something to stop it. no matter what side of the aisle you are on, we cannot allow marxism and socialism to continue to go rampant through our government.

i am of eastern european descent. every fiber in my body. it is telling me something bad is going on. thank you so much. we have a great country that we live in. host: that is dave in florida. lori in minneapolis, democrat. how to the elections turn out for you yesterday? caller: mixed results but if you don't mind i would like to say good morning. i am calling on an issue that i think -- i'm on the democrat line but anybody listening to c-span will be addressing. you and the other moderators have reason, multiple times over the years to clarify that the funding is not from federal or whatever.

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mixed results on the election yesterday. did you vote for reelection? caller: i did not. host: did you vote yes or no on the police reform question? caller: i voted for the public safety charter, yes. host: you didn't do well on either of those votes. you did not get the results you wanted on either of those vote. caller: that is correct but i will say candidly, they were both very tough calls. i could see the argument from the other side. i'm not devastated. i'm not surprised. host: what kind of work do you do in minneapolis? caller: i work for -- i'm a contractor that provides consulting services. i work on the business

development and proposal side. host: we appreciate your watching. we wish we could get that nickel from you. we will work on that. thanks for calling in. very quickly, the supreme court is hearing a case today. it is on gun laws in new york. here's an article in the usa today talking about the case. that will be an audio feed on c-span and we'll be playing that back for you as well. that will end our "washington journal" today. coming up, the f.a.a. administrator, his name is steve dickson. he will be appearing at a hearing at the senate commerce, science, and transportation committee. that will be live on c-span very shortly. we'll go to that hearing now. and it should begin shortly. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021]

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>> once again, we're live here on capitol hill where the senate commerce, science, and transportation committee. we'll be hearing from f.a.a. administrator steve dickson. he will be discussing aviation safety. live coverage here on c-span. it should get under way in just a moment.

chair cantwell: the senate committee on commerce, science, and transportation will come to order. we're having a hearing