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>> an update from the white house. the briefing start time will be closer to 12:30 eastern. while we wait, we will take a look at the debate from the house earlier, leading up to the vote on the build back better act. >> we meet today to consider the largest spending bill in american history, a bill no one has read. hundreds of billings to the deficit are written in secret and rushed to the floor. to be had from the american people. the claim by the president, this costs zero, is simply untrue. according to the congressional budget office, this bill adds hundreds of billions of dollars to the national debt and a more true accounting says this would drive up the deficit by $3 trillion over the next few

years. one out of three americans in the middle-class will see a tax hike starting next year. this bill made the claim that this will make the wealthy pay their fair share. coming out of covid, two out of three millionaires in america will get massive tax cuts. the claim that this will reduce inflation is false. this will drive up inflation for families higher and longer, for at least a decade. bill -- build back better's tax hikes will drive businesses overseas and hammer small businesses as they recover, driving inflation even higher.

there 800 billion dollars of tax increases on american businesses who compete here and around the world, this constitutes an economic surrender to china, russia, japan and europe, driving american jobs, investments, and manufacturing overseas. the corporate tax is really a made in america tax, hitting technology business the hardest, along with consumers. it's any wonder that our foreign competitors are happy to embrace a global minimum tax, they are getting american jobs in a big bite of our tax space. if the tax on retirement and the troubling new tax, the toddler tax, on american childcare. this is a terrible bill. i urge a no vote. >> the gentleman yields back.

the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. >> i yield myself three quarters of a minute. >> the gentleman is recognized. >> this debate has gone on for three months and the ways and means committee. 60 amendments from the opposition were offered. this was vetted over four days, public scrutiny, and it was all maintained in daylight. i made sure of that. on purpose. as i indicated last night, as i quoted in front of massachusetts, mr. webster, rhetorically he asked, did we do something worthwhile in our time? today, we are going to answer that question. i am sorry that last evening when i quoted webster, it triggered an outburst from the republican leader, because we quoted an individual who was devoted to the constitution of the united states and the premise that everybody in america gets a chance. now, it's an honor for me to yield one minute to the speaker of the house, secure in her

caucus, secure in her beliefs, and secure knowing what we are doing today in but a few minutes -- speaker pelosi. >> the gentleman from california is recognized. >> i think the gentleman for yielding and for his extraordinary leadership. he and others have brought us to a moment in history on the floor of the house today, where we can do something of significance for the people. thank you, mr. chairman. madame speaker, associating myself with the inspiring and informative comments of the distinguished chairman, mr. neil, with our distinguished democratic leader, mr. hoyer, the democratic whip, last evening, and respect for those who work in this capital and as a courtesy to my colleagues, i will be brief. [laughter] [applause]

in his remarks, our democratic leader mr. hoyer talked about the pride we take in telling our children and grandchildren that we are here, presence, to pass the build back better legislation and what that means for future generations. we talk about the three legs, the rescue package, the infrastructure and jobs bill and now the build back better, the infrastructure for our future. chairman neil quoted daniel webster and spoke of our responsibilities to the people. in that spirit, madame speaker, i proceed by saying under this dome, for centuries, members of congress have stood exactly where we stand, to pass legislation of extraordinary consequence in our nations history and for our nations future. in the original house chamber,

now statutory hall, where lincoln served, is cleo, the muse of history. she reminds men and women in this hallowed halls that we are part of history, that our words and actions will face the judgment of history and we are but a part of the long and honorable heritage of our democracy. with the passage of the build back better act, we, this democratic congress, are taking our place in the long and honorable heritage of our democracy, which is with legislation that will be the pillar of health and financial security in america. it will be historic and forging landmark progress for our nation. we talk about history as we look and prepare for the future. much has been said since the distinguished democratic leadership spoke last evening. much has been set on this floor.

but the facts are these. following the vision of president biden, guided by the expertise and energy of our members and staff, we had the bill back better bill that is historic, transformative, and larger than anything we had ever done before. we are building back better. if you are a parent, a senior, a child, a worker. if you are an american, this bill is for you. it is better. it's better in terms of health care. it's better for seniors, your cost at the pharmacy will be cut to a fraction with annual costs capped under medicare part d, and you will benefit from the medicare benefit. it's better if you have diabetes. and you go to the pharmacy, instead of paying hundreds for insulin, you will pay no more than $35 per month. [applause]

and it's better for all americans. we are halting big pharma's outrageous price hikes. in addition to that, we are dramatically lowering health care costs. under the affordable care act. we are also expanding coverage to millions under the affordable care act, as i mentioned. it is better in terms of family care. most families will benefit from childcare costs reduced and free universal pre-k for every three and four-year-old in america. [applause] it's better if you are middle income family. you will benefit from an extended biden child tax cut and pay fan -- paid family and medical leave. it's better if you are a caregiver. you will have the respect you deserve.

with the benefit of this historic investment in high-quality home health care. and it's better for america's working families, with an average of 12 million jobs created each year over 10 years, together with this. jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. and it's better for climate. if you want your family to benefit from clean air, clean water, those good paying green jobs for the future and from improved national security -- we are meeting the president's vision to cut pollution in half by 2030 and by 100% by 2050. getting good paying union jobs and lowering families energy costs. advancing environmental justice with a justice where the initiative of president biden.

and honoring our commitment to passing on a better planet to our children. our responsibility is always to our children and to the future. last week, our congressional delegation went to cop 26 in glascow, and -- glasgow and we made a commitment to meet and meet our climate goals. the build back better plan creates jobs, secures tax cuts for the middle class, lowers costs for families while making the wealthiest pay their fair share. good jobs, cut taxes to the middle class, and lower costs, making the corporation then wealthiest pay their fair share. bill back better -- build back better is fully paid for. [applause] it reduces the deficit and grows

the economy, unlike, and perhaps i need to remind you, unlike the republican tax scam. what was passed in the dark of night at the speed of light with no hearings whatsoever. and it increased the deficit by more than $2 trillion, by more than this bill does for the american people. tax cuts for the wealthiest, giving 83% of the benefits to the top 1%. the top 1%, and did nothing. did nothing to help the american people in terms of jobs and clean air and clean water, affordable health care and the rest. 83% to the top 1%, the dark of night, speed of light -- don't make me laugh about criticizing this bill. build back better will not

increase inflation, according to the experts, including an array of nobel prize-winning economists. this is possible because of the tenacious, tireless and valuable leadership of our peers. our membership and staff, of committees and of members. i would love to acknowledge the staff of this institution for their just being for us over and over again, regardless of when and where. thank you so much. [applause] build back better is a better agenda for workers, for families, for children, and for people. if you believe this planet is god's creation, we have the obligation to be the moral stewards of it.

if you don't share that view, we all agree we have a moral responsibility to our children, to their future, to pass on the planet in a responsible way. so, we are proud to be passing this legislation under the leadership of president joe biden. [applause] he was an advocate and a leader in terms of the best bill, the bipartisan infrastructure bill. but he did not confine his vision for america to that bill alone. today, we have the opportunity to build back better for the american people, for the children. i urge a no vote and yield back the balance of my time.

[inaudible] >> the vote on the president's spending bill in the house was 220-213. as we wait for the press briefing to begin with jen psaki, here is some of washington journal from earlier this week. >> jeff gilbert joins us now via zoom.

mr. gilbert, good morning to you. president biden will be in the motor city today as he continues this tour, the one point $2 trillion infrastructure law. where is he headed in detroit. who is he talking to? guest: they are going to the gm factory that they have renamed factory zero. this particular factory has been around for over 30 years, and straddles the border of the city of detroit. it had once made big cars, it made a number of different kinds of vehicles over the years. it was on the closing list until gm worked out a deal to reopen it, spent over $2 billion and refurbished it for a new generation of electric vehicle. today was to be the official grand opening of that plant. having a vip certainly

brings a lot of attention to what gm is doing. host: the president wants to call attention to infrastructure laws. can you run through what is in there for ev? guest: the biggest thing is the amount of funding for charging stations. there are a number of charging stations being put out by independent commercial ventures. there is one venture called electrify america part of the volkswagen diesel cheating settlement. so gm is putting up some of its own, but these will be particularly allocated to underserved areas. for example, rural areas where there may not be a commercial reason to put an ev charger there. a company wouldn't necessarily make money with these, but you still need to refuel in places like that if you have ev's. this adds to an infrastructure

that is already starting to be built. host: we would love to hear from ev owners in this segment of the washington journal. our phone lines are split regionally, so you can call at 202-748-8900 if you are in the eastern or central time zones. the mountain or pacific time zones, 202-748-8901. you cover, you are based in detroit, you cover the automotive industry. where does the industry stand? did they have any specific policy pieces that did not make it into the original legislation? guest: there are a couple of things going on here. with the bill, they wanted more of a charging infrastructure. that's something they wanted in this bill and they got in this bill. another bill that is still being argued about, what president biden called build back better, what carmakers want in that is money for incentives for people

buying electric vehicles. that has become a major political hot potato as to how to do that. there are currently incentives, but they run out and start to phase out after you sell 200,000 electric vehicles. gm and tesla do not get incentives. their customers get a bit of a damage there. this bill would continue with that, but also expand with extras for american-made ev's and union made ev's. some of the electric tart -- electric start ups, like tesla, don't like that. so do other companies that are foreign that are making deals in the u.s. that are not union built -- they don't like that. the extra incentive, there is a big debate on that in washington. it is still in the current bill, but we don't know for sure if it will last. host: a snapshot of the u.s.

electric vehicle market in the united states. here's were sales were in the third quarter of this year, 107,000 ev's sold in the third quarter. tesla counted about 70% of all ev sales. ev's, hybrids, and so-called plug-in hybrids accounted for 10.4% of total vehicle sales in the third quarter of the united states this year. jeff gilbert, explain where those numbers are headed. how big of a difference was that from a year ago this time? guest: you got to break down those numbers even further, because that's all electrified vehicles. it includes hybrids and plug-in hybrids. the battery electric vehicle segment is only about 2% right now, but was about 1% last year. up until the last year, it has been pretty much all tesla, may be chevy bolts. now you have the mucky coming --

the marquis coming in, and i can tell you, there are a lot of markets for ev's coming. you saw the president driving the ford f150 that was electric. he was driving a -- you have new startups, riviere and, i am sure you talk about them --r rivian, and gm has a cadillac ev coming next year. they say they will have a dodge musclecar, volkswagen has the iv4, but we will see a lot of electric vehicles. but the big question is going to

be, is there a market for them? host: president biden believes there will be. his executive order from earlier this year on clean cars and trucks, saying america must lead the world on clean and efficient cars and trucks, i setting a goal that 30% of all new passenger trucks be sold in the year 2030 b zero emission vehicles, including battery electric, hybrid electric, and fuel cell electric vehicles. is the industry ready to meet a goal like that? guest: if you listen to gm, they operative word is aspire. people are using words like that because we don't know what the market is. with incentive, that's going to help if price down. the other issue your guests talked about earlier is recharging. there are pluses and minuses for recharging.

if you go around your neighborhood and make short trips, you never have to go to a public charger. you can just do that in the garage. but it is still not up to the speed of a gasoline fill up. the industry is making some pretty exciting vehicles, making some pretty affordable electric vehicles. the question is, are people going to buy them? i can't give you an answer there. host: several callers, wesley chapel, florida. good morning. caller: yes, good morning. i have a question. i like the idea of electric cars . my question, when we travel now, if we pull into get gas, sometimes there's three or four cars ahead of us. well, we might be out before we

get the gas. now, the electric vehicle, it takes three to four hours per charge. i would sit there 16 hours before i could continue on my trip. that's my biggest concern. i don't see how as much traffic as we have, you could put a charging station every mile, but you could have people packed up waiting for the charge. host: we will take that point. jeff gilbert? guest: that's a legitimate question. right now, the answer is it's not a problem because there are not a lot of electric vehicles

out there. it could become a problem if there are a lot of electric vehicles, and the industry has to come to grips with that. you have a number of types of chargers. i test drive a lot of vehicles. i don't have a 220, 230 volt charger at home. i have to plug it into a wall socket and it takes forever, like filling up a water glass with an eyedropper. first, you need a higher capacity charger at home. second, those higher capacity chargers can charge within several hours, and there are high-speed chargers that can get you up to about 84 percent an hour. that's still not very convenient. but how many of these do we need? how many people will be charging on the road? that is an area of concern, but the other issue is carmakers, suppliers are working on new technology. there was a company in

switzerland that claimed earlier this year that they were able to get charging down to a reasonable time where it is competitive with gasoline fill ups. i don't know if that has been proven in the real world, but there are a lot of people working on the issue. for now, that is a significant issue. a lot of people i know on ev's, if you look at michigan, if you look up near detroit, it is an area you like to visit in the summer. a lot of people do ev's on demonstration trips up north. there are problems and waiting for chargers, getting to charging stations today where someone who doesn't have an electric vehicle parked there because they needed a parking space. those are issues that will have to shake out. host: arizona, this is bobby. caller: it's bobby dunn, thank

you. my problems are dead zones. i travel from michigan to arizona, and when i get to new mexico and i need a charger, will there be a charger there? guest: that was the entire purpose of this infrastructure bill, the put more chargers and locations, particularly the dead zones. you don't really need government to put charging stations in southern california, where there are a lot of people, a lot of vehicles, and a lot of incentive for companies to put charging stations in there and make money. you need to put them in places like rural new mexico, where there are not electric vehicles going past, but there are enough and when there are some, they will need it. that's the purpose of the infrastructure bill and putting

in these charging stations. the number is a drop in the bucket compared to what we need, but compared to what carmakers are doing -- another issue, people who live in apartments. i have a garage, i can charge an ev no problem. in an apartment with a parking lot, if i had an ev, i would be out of luck. instead of charging overnight, you might charge while you are at work. there are a ton of visions that still need to be worked out. host: jim on twitter with a question about what we are charging and what will we be charged? is the federal government involved in that transaction? guest: i don't know the answer to that question. i asked an analyst about that at one point and she seems to feel that the rules are still being written there. as congress tends to do, they

pass laws and regulators pass regulations, but i do not know what they will be charging for a charge on these charging stations. i can tell you, gm made an announcement. they will put up a number of chargers via their dealers in communities, and they are allowing the individual dealers and the people they work within the communities to decide whether these will be loss leaders to attract people to a restaurant, or actually charge money for them. host: to maryland, nick. good morning. caller: good morning. three brief points if l -- i may. i bought my first ev and i did not even know the tax credit existed until the dealer mentioned that, so that was not a factor in my decision. volkswagen gives three free years of charging on their

network, so that's why i went with that particular manufacturer over tesla or ford. three, i absolutely love everything about this electrical vehicle. there are no range anxieties here and i don't understand where a lot of these concerns are coming from. guest: what volkswagen did you buy? caller: i purchased the iv4 2021 edition. guest: ok, so you got one of the new ones. the -- >> good afternoon. ok. a couple of items for you today. not much going on around here, obviously. you have seen the president's statement he issued this morning on the house passing the build back better agenda for the middle class, which came three weeks after the bipartisan infrastructure deal also passed. since this came through today, i wanted to highlight and