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>> washington journal continues. matters of politics and public policies on the lines and you can text us at 202-748-8003, and poster -- on our twitter feed at c-spanwj or our facebook page facebook.com/c-span. the world new section of "the wall street journal" takes a look at the latest negotiations between iran and a group of countries. "iran deal negotiation stall. the new negotiating team joining talks for the first time since the hardliner and president took office ramped up their conditions for a return to the deal and issued many of --

aschewed many of the compromises to restrain future nuclear work. talks will continue with the other countries and iran has made progress to having some key ingredients for a nuclear bomb the united nations reported. u.s. officials are warning that some of iran's advances are irreversible meaning that time is running out to restore the original nuclear pact." that is in "the wall street journal." you can comment on that or other issues. jay on the republic -- on the democrats, line, ui first up. good morning. host: -- caller: that roundtable was beautiful. issues of concern it should be a discussion on both sides. i ask you the question last

month, and you do not have an answer, so i will ask you again. are you familiar with the study that was done in israel for natural immunity? host: i am not. caller: israel did a study earlier this year with 2 million people and found that natural immunity was 13 times more effective than the vaccine. my question is when it comes to the vaccine, why hasn't c-span had a roundtable one side supporting the vaccine another side or someone discussing the study that israel did on natural immunity? i think that would be a good idea for discussion, because the vaccine is not an end all be all. host: thank you for the

suggestion. you mean natural immunity as far as they get covid and have the antibodies present after that? is that the basis of the study? caller: absolutely, like i said earlier this year they did a study of 2 million people and found that the natural immunity is 13 times more effective than the vaccine. i know that israel is a close ally, and that study has been absolutely ignored. it has just been get the jab and there is nothing else. dr. fauci has said in an immunity -- in an interview that natural immunity is something that should be discussed, but it is never discussed, and -- host: thank you for the suggestion, i appreciate it. randy in kentucky, republican

line. caller: the fellow was just talking they and it was called communist control of the news media is why they do not discuss about it just like ivermectin, which is used all around the world and you are not allowed to talk about it. and you are not the law -- you were not allowed to put out information about it. it is something that saved many lives, and once this thing is over, if we ever come closer to getting it under control, i think we need to have to have something done for the news media and pull politicians that have silenced voices and so many studies around the world have been done on it already. the one in israel that this gentleman was talking about, natural immunity was 27 times greater than the shot.

and also in the united states, the study they did was 17 times greater. and the university of vanderbilt is doing a study on ivermectin in the united states. they are doing a study about that and it is very positive around the world. these are doctors that i put their lives and careers and their reputations on the line to try and this information out there, and they are being made out like they are total fools and idiots. host: you made your point. tommy is in eugene, oregon on the independent line. good morning. caller: how are you doing? host: fine. caller: we talk about china as as an entity working against the united states. i have been coming to the understanding that we have allowed china in order to keep its labor to peg its currency to

our currency so it is not able to reach its actual evaluate -- actual valuation, so doesn't that put us at a disadvantage? host: that may be the case but i do not know, i am not an economist or currency expert by training. but go ahead and finish your thought. caller: if there is a big enemy, and we always say that they have -- and somebody says that we need to pump up the military against them, but why are we allowing them to peg their currency to our currency? host: that is tommy. we will hear from david in arizona, the democrats line. caller: i was going to talk about tax policy, but this covid conversation really is something that i think that we do need to talk more about. i trust a lot that is set on the

media. i think that the drugs that are out there, the vaccines were approved and tested. but i also think the other side of the argument about the news not getting out there and truth not getting out there, i think that we probably will uncover some truth about that. i think a lot of times when people think that the person that is talking about some drug being a cure all and about how the government is hiding it, they start to sound crazy so we dismissed those things. i do think there seems to be some truth coming out of those. and what i think we will find at the end of all of this, i do not think there will be some nuremberg trial, but i think we will find that there were some things on both sides that we should have paid closer attention to. host: that is david in

scottsdale, arizona. we go next to steve in virginia, republican line, you are next. >> the whole thing is about trusting the media and people just don't. i think it's because you have them doing the zone and addison cooper doing 60 minutes. they are all one group and if you don't agree with me your shutdown. it really dictates the country. except for fox news, if you don't watch it, you don't seem to get other sides of things. what's going on this country, i hope it gets taken care of. that is really my comment. host: being is in maryland, independent line, good morning. caller: good morning. a couple things i would like to

pinpoint. number one, it seems like mccarthy and jim jordan must be related some sow. they are always on the negative side of things. one thing with mccarthy this morning when he was crying blues about the gas prices, i understand there up, but look at the other end of the ballpark. the cost of living in california is higher than the east coast and those people make up your paychecks. a tractor-trailer in maryland makes $70,000 a year and california makes $140,000 a year. it doesn't really make any sense. i think also one other thing is i heard on your previous caller -- previous hour when one caller called and said the aspect was there was no jobs president biden was making. really? did we look at the infrastructure bill. creating jobs in the bill itself

as far as bridges, roads, and other things. thank you for your time. host: he mentioned the minority leader of the house, kevin mccarthy, who held a press conference yesterday. one of the topics addressed was the interparty squabble you probably read about highlighted in the washington post. under the headline gop leaders evade addressing islam a phobic rhetoric. it rights house republicans leaders have yet to publicly denounce the islam a phobic language employed by representative of california, marjorie taylor greene of georgia and a democrat from minnesota, including statement is the muslim lawmakers of course terrorists and is bloodthirsty. at like her to a suicide bomber. he was asked about the party squabble, here's a portion of it. >> our marjorie taylor greene talks of distractions to winning back the majority next year.

>> it is things we do not want to deal with, gas prices and others in any deviation of that causes problems. >> islamophobia comments, why do you have such a hard time condemning something that is clearly wrong. >> let me be very clear, this party is for anyone and everyone who craves freedom and supports religious liberty. lauren, as i called her when she came forward, we talked and she apologized publicly, personally, i contacted lawyer and even talked about maybe steny and i should be in the room. we should lower the temperature of this congress. we should work together and talk to one another. and disagreements if something goes astray, apologize for it.

exactly what he did. what is interesting to me, i didn't get to watch speaker pelosi's press conference. did you raise the question someone on their side of the aisle set i work with the ku klux klan referring to republicans? does anyone on your side of the aisle talk about when omar -- said the only reason i support israel is about the benjamin's. i never got a public apology or phone call. did anybody on your side of the aisle -- i think you might've asked speaker pelosi about this one. when congresswoman omar referred to american taliban as equal, because i remember speaker pelosi saying something to the effects, and i could be wrong, but it was to the effect that she did not denounce her for saying that. so i think when somebody does something, they apologize.

he apologized publicly and then picked up the phone and it took a lot of effort. she wanted to meet personally. denied the ability to meet personally. when she picked up the phone and called, congresswoman omar, she said i want to personally apologize to you and that is what she did. i think in america that is what we do and we move on on the issues that need to take place. host: you can see more on the website at c-span.org. let's hear from steven in illinois, democrats line. caller: good morning. this idea of natural immunity is total insanity. how does one know if you have natural immunity? if you don't get a vaccination and you don't have natural immunity and get the covid virus and die, then why? where is your natural immunity? you don't have that. you get a vaccination to be cautious and careful and sharp.

it is pretty easy. the proof is in the pudding. these stupid people saying natural immunity and natural immunity. tell that to the 800,000 people that are dead and the millions of people that have had the coronavirus and are going to have serious and do have serious medical problems. this is craziness. host: stephen in illinois. we hear from betty in indianapolis. independent line. caller: good morning. the reason why i wanted to talk today is because i am very interested in a couple of things. one is the fentanyl that comes in from china. a great number of people it is killing. it is insanity for americans to take fentanyl and kill 200,000 people a year.

and without any guns or anything. they are killing more people that died in the war of vietnam. also, the mood of the country is not very good right now. i feel like people are not ambitious anymore. in the 1950's, when i grew up, people were ambitious, they wanted families and they wanted houses and they wanted things with their children. now it seems as though they just sit on the sidelines and wait for things to come to them. host: the topic of fentanyl, the topic of hearing at the house energy commerce. earlier this week, it was administration officials testifying on the topic of regulation of fentanyl-based substances. if you want to see the hearing, go to our website at c-span.org. you can he see -- you can see

what the administration set about the topic. from john in pennsylvania, republican line. caller: good morning, pedro. i just want to talk about the supply chain thing. i find it disturbing the u.s. mailman -- mail person, male woman has to deliver emma john -- deliver amazon packages. there was a discussion about this years ago and i have not heard anything more about it. i did talk to the postal workers and said i would not blame you if you go on strike even though everybody needs their presence through the mail this time of year. this amazon guy, thank god he sent him into space, he

should not be putting this on the back of the u.s. postal workers. i have an uncle that is a mailman. host: richard in texas, democrats line. caller: good morning. when we talk about the covid situation and particularly natural immunity, i think anytime we look at a solution that is narrow, we are doing ourselves a distrust this. -- injustice. when we think about natural immunity and we think about the fact that there are variants that are going to have to be dealt with, rather than being so political, let's be more scientific. and to be sure that we come up with broad approaches to solve these problems and not some narrow one trick serves all.

i think we need to look at dealing with the problem in a broad sense and not in some narrow way. thank you so much for having me. host: richard in texas giving us his thoughts. if you heard the president talking about the jobs report, might have noticed his voice is a little deeper. a story says he was asked about his health and attributed it to a call. here are some of that exchange from the conference yesterday. [video clip] >> mr. president, first of all, your voice sounds a little deep. are you ok? >> i'm ok. i have taken a covid test. what i have is a one and a half your grandson who got a cold and loves to kiss his pop. anyway, it is just a cold. host: those press conferences, the jobs number report yesterday. you can see that at c-span.org.

on the republican line, this is susan. hello. caller: i'm calling because the two gentlemen, the study they were talking about, many of my relatives get their news from instagram, facebook, and i suggested that they do a little fact checking because what the gentleman stated, the figures were true about the study. it found that 27% better meant for people who had natural immunity, but the fact-check will go on to show you that what that instagram and preponderant did not mention is the people that have natural immunity, their risk are getting infected also wanes with time. also, the people that had natural immunity that were

vaccinated, even one those of the vaccination, had a higher rate of not getting covid. i thought the most important thing i read was that unvaccinated people are much more -- because many people will get covid and not have any side effects and maybe they wonder why they should get vaccinated. i am vaccinated -- any unvaccinated person infected poses a much greater risk to those unvaccinated and even vaccinated people, particularly the vulnerable and elderly an immuno compromise. if we are people that care about other people, that might be the most import in fact i told you. host: that is susan in to connecticut. the department of justice contends it should defend former president trump and his 2019 defamation suit. the justice department lawyer argued friday the u.s. should be allowed to represent donald trump in a defamation suit, saying the law protects a

president from being sued in such a case. the 2019 lawsuit, it alleged mr. trump lied earlier when -- if the second u.s. court of appeal ruled an fate of the justice department, it would almost certainly bring an end to her case because federal employees cannot be sued for defamation for actions they take in their official capacity. more on that in the wall street journal if you want to read it there. from st. louis, missouri, independent line, hello. caller: hello. i have been thinking about things, watching in decades past and all kinds of things, and i think one reason why we keep having all of these problems is because some issues people tackle, which are very -- they are like red-hot issues like abortion, baby killer.

you will hear people who are gay and lesbian, they are committing sodomy, it is dangerous, we will be destroyed. some religious groups seem to hate other religious groups or fear them. i remember when we first went into the war near iraq, some said it was a clash of one religious group against another. there was a person appointed by trump who says he thinks that the koran and his lot -- koran and islamic faith -- quaran is at odds of the constitution. i think we are not learning how to deal with us getting angry and we need to cope with them. host: one more call, tom in el paso texas. republican line. caller: this whole debate about covid-19 is really over emergency use authorization. that is the government's

planning go and that is why we will continue to have variants that will come along, so they can continue to induce fear into the american people. you can prove this by taking a look at the approach we have really gone about with regard to try to reduce infection rates. they are constantly testing people for covid-19 when we should be being tested for immunity, for t cells. this way we can know who has natural immunity or even has immunity from the so-called vaccine. the other thing is you know this too because they have done everything they can to block therapeutics to keep people healthy. hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, the have all -- these have all been repressed and pushed down and it has been driven by the global elites and by the powerful pharmaceutical companies making billions and billions of dollars off

something that is not even effective. to your color susan in connecticut, i do not think she is right. i think the studies they did in israel to find out about natural immunity and effectiveness of it is correct. we probably need to have three to four more studies around the world but the bottom line is that is what we should be shooting for, taking the power away from the federal government and let american ingenuity take care of this. we have the therapeutics to do it. caller: that is tom finishing off this session of open forum. thanks to those of you who participated. another medical topic that we will address next up is the topic of cancer. joining us on our spotlight a podcast segment, we hear from dr. diane, the host of cancer straight talk from the msk podcast, discussing the 50th anniversary of the cancer acts, among other things. she will join us when we

continue. >> next week on the c-span network, both chambers of congress are in session. the house will take up a bill to prevent abuses of presidential power and protect against foreign interference in elections. the senate will continue working on executive nominations including confirmation of the next sec chair on tuesday at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span.org and the c-span now mobile video app. i house oversight and reform subcommittee set threats posed by terrorist organizations like al qaeda and isis with a counterterror -- with the counterterrorism heads from the state and defense department. attend a clock a.m. eastern on c-span3, the inspector general of the u.s. capitol police testifies in an oversight hearing by the senate rules and administration committee following the january 6 attack on the capital. that afternoon on c-span3, the senate foreign relations committee holds a hearing on u.s. relations with russia as a country gathers more troops on its border with ukraine.

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