>> tonight on "q&a," michelle singletary on her book "what to do with your money when cries hits." michelle: it's not a matter of if there will be another crisis but when. we want to set you up for the next crisis. it's actually not all about covid but what recession is going to come down the road. it may be long, it may be short but life is going to happen. i need to you prepare now. i do a lot of financial seminars in my community and it's so hard to get people to save when they're doing well because they think they're doing well and they don't think tomorrow is going to have an issue. so i say you need to save and do that. they go yeah, i'm going to get to it. when a crisis hits, everybody is in frugal mode and they're ready

to do it but that's too late. the time to do that is when you have the resources, when you have the ability to cut. it's easy to cut when you can't pay for anything or things are shut down. so i wanted to say let's prepare and be like the fireman or fire woman ready for the next fire. they hope it won't happen but they're going to be prepared for that. >> "washington post" syndicated finance columnist michelle singletary on her book "what to do with your money when crisis hits." tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. you can also listen to q&a and all our podcasts on our new c-span now app. ♪ ♪ mr. >> when donald trump was sworn in at age 75 he was the oldest man ever to enter the office.

joe biden topped that last year, his 2021 presidential inauguration, he was 78. so given their age, where the country has been in the past few years and where it may be going in the next two years, we thought we'd start off this new year talking about a possible biden-trump rematch in 2024. you may also want to consider the likelihood of the rematch and how this year's congressional elections might top 2024. it's january, 2, 2022, welcome to "washington journal" this is our question the first hour, do you want to see a biden-trump rematch, the lines, democrats 202-748-8000, republicans 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002 or send us a text and tell us your name and where you're texting from. we're on facebook, twitter and instagram@c-spanwj.

come september 2024 joe biden will be 82 years old and donald trump will be almost 82 and donald trump will be 78 years old. we'll hear from both men and most recent comments on whether they will run, looking ahead to 2024 and hear from you in a moment so go ahead and start dialing. we're joined by paul fine highser who is the national political reporter, fox news and of course out of new hampshire. good morning, paul. #. guest: good morning and happy new year to your viewers. host: i know we'll get comments, 2 1/2 years out, plus from the 2024 presidential election but tell us why it's important for campaigns to start this early on a potential run in 2024? a potential run in 2024. guest: guest: the beginning of 2022, this race for the white house in

2024 began almost a year ago after president biden's inauguration with the former president donald trump immediately starting to splitter with making a run in 2024 and the current president having to face questions all year long about whether he would or wouldn't run for re-election in 2024. here we are. we have been dealing with this and we will continue to deal with this through 2022. they are not just in the years that they happen anymore. that is clear. we have seen cycles start so early. it is just the way that is happen with presidential campaigns. a lot of these contenders come

to these early voting states. host: one of the recent pieces looked at the survey out there. the approval rating for president biden. what did they tell us? guest: president biden started out in very good shape. starting in august, many people say -- add inflation to that makes and you see his ratings flagging. that is an issue for him and his party. we'll see if he decides to run for reelection. host: what do you think the

pluses and warnings are for president trump and joe biden? guest: that is a good question. both men made history as the oldest president. if they team up again and we see a rematch, we will make history again as the oldest presidential nominee and challenger. age is a huge factor, health as well. there are a lot of factors involved. kind of a grudge match angle to this as well. host: aside from donald trump and the republican party, who is the odds on favorite to get the nomination two and a half years out? guest: if donald trump is the

favorite decides to run, every poll that has been taken shows donald trump way ahead of the field of average contenders. probably around 54% to 55% of support of republican voters. if you taken out of the mix -- take all of these polls with many grains of salt. the florida governor has become quite popular among conservatives and other republican voters. he is in the number one position to trump. he is slightly ahead of former vice president mike pence. after that, i have a list of about 15 potential contenders.

it could be a crowded field of republicans, but we are seeing these people visiting over the past year. you mentioned mike pence was just here. so was a senator from. mike pompeo has been through all the early voting state. nikki haley has been to a number of the states. it is a large list. host: donald trump announced for the 2016 race, and he can be full of surprises. what potential surprises or underdogs come in terms of candidates, are you keeping and i out for? guest: another good question. first of all, he remains

extremely popular. he continues to play a haymaker's role in the party. it can be helpful at times, but which mental at others. he has raised a boatload of money. we have never seen this before with a former president, but we have never had a former president in this kind of position. take him out of the equation. if he decides not to run, you look at others, such as governors -- governor desantis. his coffers are in norma's the large. we are so early in this cycle. in the 2008 cycle, we did not

know much about barack obama. i could say that about a lot of potential presidents. host: in 2021 was the historic bill passed. how important is it for his legacy? guest: democrats feel that is very important for them and their party as they retain the majority of the senate. back in early spring of 2021 this past year, the recovery act was passed. the third wheel would be the build back better.

for now, senator joe manchin said he could not support it. democrats will try again to get something passed early this year. they feel it is very important to pass something to help their party out. another important item out there would be those sweeping reform bill that they are trying to get past. they have tightened voting restrictions. host: paul, thank you for joining us this morning.

guest: great to join you. thank you a lot. host: would you like to see a biden and trump rematch in 2024? democrats, the line is (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independence at (202) 748-8002. our first call from charleston, south carolina. good morning. go ahead. caller: thank you. i think washington journal spends too much time putting people towards each other instead of having questions, to where people can talk.

every morning, washington journal has questions that are really idiotic. donald trump should be arrested. i do not think the united states of america can take anymore of this guy. host: here is joe on the independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i do not think it is going to happen, but no matter who runs, whether a republican is going to run -- that speaker never once mentioned a republican policy. they are not going to fix immigration. it made all those promises years

ago. no debt -- they blew the debt up. there is no republican policy. can you .1 out where they have said that we are going to fix something? they fixed nothing. the speaker talking about infrastructure -- you had to pull it out of him to have him say one good thing at the end. they have done nothing for five years. i live here in maine. it is the perfect example of what the gop has become. the state of maine in the last election, put it on the ads because maine is a small state.

it is ridiculous. they have no policies at all. i do not think governor desantis could run for dogcatcher, even in florida. host: go ahead. caller: i agree with the previous caller. the gop, republicans have no policy recommendation, no policy platform. they did not write a platform in 2020. i do not believe they had a platform in 2016 either. no party platform in 2020. the only thing that they are running is let's get donald trump elected again. they will do that by cheating by

putting cronies in the county election officials and in the secretaries of state. trump will proceed to campaign and stay the same stupid things that he said previously. if i lose, it was rigged. i won the popular vote by a landslide. he will continue to lie. it is going to be a campaign without issues. host: michael in tyrone, new york. go ahead. you are on the air. caller: let's say that if there is a rematch with donald trump and joe biden, i would be surprised. i think that the case is moving

against donald trump -- isn't it supposed to go to trial for everything that he did in the last election? i am a republican and after what i have seen, i am going to be registered democrat this time around. i'm going to go with the democrats on this one because they sound better for the country. host: biden says he will run for reelection in 2024, if he is in good health. here are comments. >> i will ask you about something that i asked weeks before. he said he would absolutely serve. president biden: i am a great respecter of faith. if i am in the health that i am

now, i would run again. you are trying to tent me. sure. why would i not run against donald trump? that would increase the prospect of running. host: what are your thoughts? republicans and (202) 748-8000. democrats at (202) 748-8002 -- (202) 748-8001 and independent at (202) 748-8002. caller: it has been at least a year since i called in. this is how i see it. i like joe biden. i think it has been a fresh breath of air since he came in, dealing with the trash that was

left over from the trump administration. they did nothing but make money for the wealthy. republicans have nothing to run on. this nasty sarcasm that they seem to be putting out absolutely turns me off. the ones that are really pushing donald trump right now is trump and the price. the major networks are pushing him because he brings up sales of advertising. that is what they are really all about, making money, which is part of the american dream, but in my country, i want somebody in there working for me and the people of this country, not for themselves.

that is what donald trump stands for, all for himself. have a good day. maybe i will call in again soon. host: michael on the republican line in new jersey. caller: i am from patterson. i do not think joe biden is doing the job right now. we have 2 million people who just walked over the border. nobody with a love for america would allow drugs to come into america. no president would give our energy independence away and go tie van, that says debt to america and buying energy from them. i think trump has a lot to run on, those things especially. i did not see joe do one thing.

check china out. why did he sell it to china? how come nobody interviews that? where is the irs on that? but if it was donald trump, you would hold him hostage for four years. he did a great job and he loves america. americans first and america first. joe biden is america last. he does not love america. host: in michigan, the democrats line. caller: basically, i have a comment. donald trump is guilty of insurrection against the usa, resulting in multiple deaths. him and his inner circle should be hung or imprisoned.

goodbye. host: which 2024 candidates won 2021? i want to read you some of what they had to say about the candidates that we are talking about. here is a at a review of donald trump. their conclusion, did trump make good use of 2021? no. he had the inside track but his insecure, bullying nature, let him to spend more time criticizing republicans than democrats. he could not unite his party behind him. reading about joe biden as well. bill, go ahead. caller: good morning. i love america. america is the greatest country. former president trump is like a child.

if you allow a child to misbehave and break rules, that is when a child will do. the gop had senators who refuse to stand up for america and check the former president. that is why he was able to go through with what he did. as far as a joe biden and donald trump rematch, as a country, i think that we need to move on from joe biden and donald trump. joe biden is beak and we need people who will keep america strong. host: who do you think that might be in 2024? who would you like to see? caller: that is a good question. at this point right now, i am trying to educate myself and trying to look at the candidates, but i heard earlier

that you had a guest talking about governor desantis. i am not thrilled about him, but i am very much in advocate for someone who will stand up and do the right thing for america, instead of trying to divide us. you had a collar earlier you mentioned the gop has no policy. the gop has a policy. they have a list of policies that they are trying to implement. for example, state legislators are trying to suppress voters. all these laws are trying to suppress the vote. gerrymandering, favoring the gop , and finally, all this hate that has-beens viewed from republic -- has been spewed from

republicans. somebody made a comment about the red states and blue states being separated. that is un-american. that is not what we need to move forward. host: thank you very much. ohio on the republican line. caller: did you say bill? host: sorry. edward. caller: the whole biden and trump thing -- it is playground garbage. you get the media involved -- involved, and they are pushing all this untruthful information.

you do not know what to believe. a few colors back -- callers back, trump made promises and he kept promises. he got the wall build -- built. biden comes in and the first thing he does it shut that down and flood our country with immigrants and narcotics. we need all new people to run. host: we appreciate your call. the former president was recently interviewed. the question of whether he would

consider running again in 2024 came up. >> why would a man who has all the things that you got -- why would a man who has all the things that you got, great family, wonderful life, you are fit, looking for -- why on earth would you consider going back into that hell again? mr. trump: i brought the country to a level we had never seen before. we got covid and i brought it back. came up with vaccines that everyone is using. tens of millions of people throughout the world, in less than nine months. it was supposed to take 12 years. everyone said it was not going to work, and it worked incredibly well. we have done an amazing job. this is a wonderful, beautiful life, but i like that to because i am helping people. i think you will be happy in the

future as well. >> i know you cannot answer that question, but we have the midterms coming up. lee be out on the campaign trail? is to: yes. -- mr. trump: yes. those two losses were by people -- the people who won were more trump than i was. what is happening is -- the most powerful endorsement our country has ever seen. we have many people online. when i leave, i have four candidates who want an endorsement. i think we will have a big 2022 and an even bigger 2024. host: looking at some of the

comments on donald trump. here is joe biden. the underwater president is the title of the piece. did biden make good use of 2021? no. instead of reminding democrats about his ability to beat donald trump, he mentioned that he could lose a rematch. -- he ends the year with pull suggesting he could lose a rematch. in 2024, the unvaccinated will not be around to vote for trump. trump should not be allowed to run, says david. in addition to crimes committed before his term, his eyes amount to fraud committed on the american people.

he tried and failed to steal a second term. now the gop have rigged the process based on his lies. timothy says no, but i like watching trump run from his past. cantley find two people who are 60 and not 78? -- can't we find two people who are 60 and not 78? caller: does anyone know out there what was in the build back better bill? democrats were going to put into law, ballot harvesting, voter id was going away.

they were going to permanently reenact those covid rules. i guess everyone out there is against energy independence for the country. record unemployment for blacks, latinos and women. who would be against those things? we were energy independent and what are we now? what do we have inflation wise? jobs were coming back to the country. i would love to see trump run again, but joe biden is never going to run again because he cannot do a political campaign again. he would never hold up to another election we match against trump.

caller: i would like to say that the punishment for traders is death, and that is what mr. trump deserves. others are talking about hunter biden and china. what about trump's daughter getting patents in china, while he was president? they have not won the popular vote since the 1980's. as far as democratic person, i like cory booker. host: all right. diane, do you want to see a rematch? caller: no, i do not. i cannot tolerate president biden. i think he is ruining the country. i really like this policy.

i do not necessarily blame it all on him, but there is something about him that some people will do anything to avoid. i support somebody like ron desantis or nikki haley, someone who is strong. there is a better way of working with everyone in this country. the republican party needs to take a better look at the working class than they have been. you need to look at things like raising the minimum wage.

there needs to be a little bit of a balance in the country. host: how early do you think donald trump would have to say, i am not working -- running in 2024, to give room to candidate that you are talking about? caller: before this june. i appreciate what president trump did for our country, i really do. i think he is somebody who can really help our party, but we just cannot have him run again. people need to be together.

we are such a fractured country. host: hillary rodham clinton was recently on sunday today and was critical of the direction. >> i think it is a time for careful thinking about what wins elections, not just in deep blue districts, where a democrat and a liberal democrat or a progressive democrat is going to win. we do not know what the state of the map will be after the redistricting. it appears as though republicans are doing their best to eliminate as many seats that democrats can be competitive in. we have to be very clear idea about what it will take to hold the house and the senate. i understand why people want to

argue for their priorities. that is what they were elected to do. nothing will get done if you do not have a democratic majority. it comes from people who win the majority of the checks. the majority of the senate comes from those who can win not just blue states and hold them, but they can win in more purple states. i am all about having vigorous debate. i think it is good and it gives people a chance to be part of the process. host: a preview of president biden's coming year.

biden faces a series of minefields. president biden is staring down a number of minefields. he will have to tackle major issues, including the coronavirus -- getting the coronavirus under control after a severe spite of the omicron variant. we will have to ensure that the virus does not overwhelm the health systems and financial markets. he will have to revive talks about his spending legislation. we will see if parts of it can be salvaged. democrats fear that they could lose the house. it is a daunting series of challenges as he gets ready for his second year in office. susan in germantown, maryland. caller: thank you. happy new year. i do not think either of them

will run in 2024. one thing about trump is he has so many crimes and lawsuits against him. i do not think he will do it. i think he is just saying that. but trump putting much wants to take us back. many are terrified about what they see. they do not want to see minorities rising, and that is what is happening. it is happening around us and it will be that way and 20 years. i truly believe it. there will be a wide pool of both, but i do not think either will run again.

host: atlantic city, new jersey. go ahead. caller: i think most of us have lost our focus. i live in a city -- another thing i want you to think about when he swore on the bible that he would uphold the constitution, he broke that last january 6. they keep trying to hide that fact. thank you. host: chris christie was mentioned as -- was mentioned. >> anybody who was a supporter of president trump's -- [applause]

the lying forms behind me. here is why. i was the first major officeholder to endorse him in 2016. you want the videos of that, believe me. i shared his opioid commission to deal with the scourge of drug abuse in this country, which killed over 80,000 americans last year. for all people who say, the line begins behind me, i started that. let me tell you something else. we can no longer talk about the past.

no matter where you stand on that issue, it is over. every minute that we spend talking about 2020, while you are wasting time, joe biden, kamala harris, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer -- we need to start looking through the windshield again. host: here on washington journal, asking you this first hour in the new year. republicans at (202) 748-8001. democrats and (202) 748-8000. independent at (202) 748-8002. caller: hello. i just feel that joe biden and

his corrupt administration are a joke. nothing they have done has been positive for the country at all. i won the election and it was rough. he did not win the election. he was installed. everything he has done has been corrupted and dangerous for this country. there are some people out there -- i know that donald trump was a great patriot. i hope he runs again. host: is the answer for republicans donald trump? caller: i like ron desantis, but he should run in 2028. i think donald trump was robbed in 20 -- was robbed. i think he smokes the democrat

nominee. i think it will be biden, if he is still alive. who knows what will happen. the democrats have no bench. let me tell you this, desantis in 2028 is good, but i like him as governor here. if he runs, he runs. trump, if he decides not to run, desantis will do just fine for me, except for chris christie. he has not my guy and he never was my guy. host: on mike's comment about the age of the candidates, joe biden will be 82 and donald trump will be 78.

caller: thank you so much for having me on. i wanted to comment. you see what joe biden came in and all the promises he has made , it has been a lot of empty promises. the border crisis has been -- the key to trump is that he has to tone it down. no more twitter or divisiveness. if he could do a good job of controlling his rashness -- i think it will be a phenomenal term. i think when you look at the promises that kamala harris and joe made, it is clear that they

are not living up to it. a lot of people have been deceived. host: in war and, ohio on the republican line. caller: i do not want to see either one of them run again. joe can be bought off so easily. he has taken his cues from bernie sanders. trump could be a florida governor. it is kind of ridiculous that you would bring this up because we know it is not going to happen. there has been a lot of republicans -- joe manchin has some common sense. joe can be -- joe biden can be bought off so easily.

we do not have independent oil. we have to depend on other countries for oil. the border crisis -- the republicans think it is broken and democrats think that it is working just fine. host: they aggregate poles on a number of things. this is one that they are tracking. we will read that in a bit. the latest and republican candidates. republican -- mike pence with just under 7%. mike pence recently with what

might be ahead. >> we showed what it takes. to get this free market economy rolling. under the leadership of president donald trump. we cut taxes across the board. we rolled back more federal regulations in four years than any other. we unleashed american energy and made america energy independent. we fought for the free and fair trade that puts american jobs and american workers first. 7 million jobs created and wages rose at their fastest pace in more than a decade. household incomes sword to a new record. unemployment plummeted.

we had the lowest unemployment ever recorded for african americans and hispanic americans. 10 million americans moved from welfare to work. before the pandemic struck our country, we were experiencing a level of prosperity we had never witnessed in our lifetimes. we made it stronger than ever before. host: to show you the aggregation of the polls, republican candidates -- here is a cap potential democratic candidates and their poll average. kamala harris got 21%. i apologize. i lost that. rick is critical saying that c-span needs to stop playing both sides and be honest with the american people.

they turned the base of their party into a bunch of fanatics, like al qaeda. if it was going to be a fair election, yes, i would love to see him with a second term, but governor desantis would be the best choice. president trump will not win over the women. governor desantis will win them back. caller: good morning. i would like to see president biden run again, if his health was all right. trump, i would like to see him behind buyers. he is actually a criminal. there are many crimes he has committed and people need to realize that. hopefully that will happen, but i do not think it will.

the american people do not have enough back bone to do that. i see on facebook people complaining about the people killed coming out of afghanistan. think of it this way. if president biden did not take us out of there, how many people would have been killed if we had stayed there? host: a story from the new york times this morning. this is from the sunday edition new york times. it focuses on the ice to sell that hit afghan airports as a terror attack on the west. a suicide bomber killed scores of people, including at least 13 american servicemembers outside the airport in kabul, afghanistan. officials have pieced together a profile of assailants. they are using that information to focus on a cell that was

involved in the attack. they could be the first insurgents. the u.s. has not carried out any airstrikes since the last american troops left. the attack unfolded four days earlier. it was one of the deadliest attacks of the war in afghanistan. they identified the suicide bombers. a former engineering student was one of several thousands freed from two high-security prison actors securing control. the taliban emptied the facilities indiscriminately.

here is the story that could concern national security in the u.s. they write that the attack raised international profile and positioned and as the major threat to the taliban. the most imminent terrorist risk to the u.s. coming out of afghanistan. that is from the new york times. back to calls. this is the republican line in california. caller: i think most americans like stability. we have two term, -- 2, 2 term

president in clinton and obama. another one were able to solve the problem. i think next year you will probably see a big republican landslide in the house and senate. i do not know why joe biden would want to run again at his age and be in the minority. i think that both parties are in desperate need of a new voice, a new face, and something that the people can look to. right now you have two guys over 75 years old and i do not think anybody wants to see that. i think both parties would do themselves a service by finding someone new and different. host: linda is up next. go ahead.

caller: i would like to see her run as a democrat. she is the best thing that the republicans have at this time. i think she is more a politician than the politicians that are sitting in the republican party, at this time. trump needs to go to jail. he should have been in jail. he did not pay his taxes. why do you keep hollering about trump? he never wanted anyone to have a job over nine dollars and hour. people cannot live off of nine dollars an hour. thank you. happy new year's, everyone. host: let's hear from jonathan,

canton, ohio caller:. happy new year. it is interesting how people are talking about democrats coming into america. i want to make a statement. when coca-cola started, they had real cocaine and coca-cola. cocaine came from mexico. they want to do something about people coming from that state. let's talk about italians, polish people -- they were all immigrants. host: reported on yahoo! news. revocation ronnie date -- republican rodney davis with a trump endorsement.

mary miller has embraced the far right elements of the party ideology. saturday, she will challenge five term republican u.s. representative rodney davis in the june 28 primary after gaining the endorsement of former president donald trump. she said she would seek we election but did not say where she would run. under a redistricting map, where illinois lost a seat, it is the same district as four term representative mike bost. republican line. caller: yes. i would like to see trump run and really cement america first policies into the republican platform.

effective military action -- he has a proven record on all three of those, so i think he has the most strength. i respect the outlook of the caller from california, who says that we do not want somebody who can only run one term. it was a singular figure. he has produced results, secure borders, reliable energy production and effective military action. it does not get more effective than that. nothing demonstrates that more than the debacle in afghanistan that has been orchestrated by

this regime. like i said, i like trump, but i also like the idea of tilting around that policy platform to produce candidates in the future. host: sam also on the republican line in jersey. caller: thank you for having me on. all i can say is that democrats are kind of embarrassed right now with the president and everything that is going on. instead of everything being trump, trump, trump, we need better policy. we need to do better. host: to francis in michigan. caller: yeah. i have been getting emails from trump to send him money. why does a billionaire need my

money? i do not understand that. there are other things that i do not like about him. all the lies. thank you. host: we will continue the conversation about politics, focusing on 2022 and of going elections this year. we will be joined by democratic strategist to talk about political stories ahead. your calls as well. ♪ > c-span is >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. including mid co. ♪

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[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] >> "washington journal" continues. they are going to tak political stories. rebecca is a democratic strategist and former advisor to the elizabeth warren it campaign and the congressional campaign to me. adam has served and worked on hundreds of campaigns to his career. he is a republican strategist. welcome to washington journal. let's start off by asking each of you about the strengths and weaknesses of the parties. rebecca, we will start with you. guest: i think the democrats are excited to expand and build upon our majorities in the house and senate. i think that when voters get to the ballot box.