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democracy. >> joining us now is natalie andrews, she reports on congress for the wall street journal. a recent piece of hers takes a look at working relations on capitol hill in light of january 6. you can go into details, but how would you describe those working relations? you can go into details, but how would you describe those working relations? guest: it is a toxic place on capitol hill. it is dramatic coming back there as i have come back to work there every day. you can feel a difference between now on the capital and before january 6, even going back to before the pandemic end of shutdown started. it is a tense place. a building these to be fold of camaraderie is now filled with a lot of distrust and skepticism. host: as far as why that is, is it specifically to a

representative position they took on president trump's role in january 6, or is it more than that? guest: for this story, my colleague and i interviewed more than four dozen lawmakers and aides. and really tried to get an understanding of why congress has become such a tough place to work. a toxic place. democrats tied to january 6 the fallout. they feel like their lives were threatened and they were trying to stop democracy. if you like the republican response has been less than what they wanted. they do not like how the republicans downplayed the response and would like to see something different. republicans will try to trace back some of it to the response to democrats to donald trump's

election, where they say democrats came in and 2017 questioning the legitimacy of president trump's election. when i interviewed the majority leader, he has been sitting in congress since 1981, a long time. he said it is the worst it has ever been on the hill. he tied it back to reagan, saying it is something that has been somersaulting and is not a very tense point. -- now a very tense point. host: can you tell our audience that story? guest: brad schneider, democrat and paul gosar, a republican from arizona have been working on legislation for several years that would give benefits to parents who have lost a child. bereavement, time, parental leave to leave -- grief.

-- grieve. which is a bipartisan agreement that is tragic and something they want to address. after january 6, brad schneider made an agreement with himself -- not a universal house democratic policy -- he decided he would no longer work with any republican who voted against certifying estates election results. so he decided to not work with paul gosar and instead found another republican to work with. brad schneider is not alone in deciding that. several house decided that is a standard, they do not want to work with republicans who voted against certifying state election results. there are almost 200 house republicans and 139 of those republicans voted in some way against certifying the election

results. that is a large percentage right off the bat, some of these democrats are saying they do not want to work with. host: if the democrats have the majority in the house at the end of the day, to their perspective, does it matter if they have this working relation? guest: it matters because they are solving problems of america. when you do not have the people even wanting to have discussions with each other, congress gets further gummed up. certain issues that were once small, that could once make their way through congress and passed, they are getting gummed up. it is difficult for congress to pass legislation, it has been that way for years. but now you have people drawing the line in the sand saying they do not even want to talk to each other. they lack respect, they do not want to even go there. that is tough when these meetings are not happening. host: natalie andrews with the

wall street journal for this discussion on working relations in congress because of january 6. for democrats --(202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. how would you characterize relations in the senate with the idea of january 6 being the tipping point? guest: we talked to several senators. they are careful to say they do not have the same lives post january 6 we've seen in the house. the senate has to work in a bipartisan way to some extent in order to function. the need 60 votes. you can talk about the debate over limiting that threshold, but that is where it is right now. those relationships need to happen. the need to continue to happen. in the senate, there is a desire

for camaraderie, you have seen senators like josh hawley who was seen as one of the first to come out saying he was going to vote against certifying the election results. he signed on with several bills with democrats this year. several democrats want to work with republicans to pass bipartisan legislation, the infrastructure bill that passed the senate earlier this year, then became law. that is a key example. there are still relationships moving, we talked to a freshman senator from colorado, he said he does not see that. we talk to women of the senate, they still get together for their bipartisan dinners and they have met recently. host: back on the house side, you talked about what is going on in the seats. about leadership? has it suggested it is not necessary to have these working relationships with numbers across the aisle? guest: when we talk to aides and

things, they say that even though leadership teams do not talk as well as they used to. that can come up for time, that can make a simple vote that used to happen quickly take longer because you are negotiating back and forth and a fractured relationship. bipartisan relationships need to happen because congress -- things take time. we have watched congress, they are not always super speedy. with the mud geordie influx, kevin mccarthy making a run to win the majority this fall -- majority influx. when the majority flips, it is a lot harder for a democrat to get there legislation over the finish line in the republican majority and vice versa. host: how much of this has been exacerbated with the debates we

saw before the end of last year? we saw a couple people go at each other via twitter, we have seen issues concerning marjorie taylor greene and her twitter account. how does this affect the dynamic on the floor? guest: there is a clear lack of respect. most people and a working relationship, when we go to work, it is important to have a basis of respect for people and there is a clear lack of respect in congress with certain members for other members. some of the names mentioned are clear. there are democrats that do not have any respect for marjorie taylor greene, they feel like she is part of the problem. republicans have a number -- a list they do not like in terms of democrats. there is clear lack of respect. you see name-calling, you see aoc being called names by other members outside the capital --

capitol. that does not bode well for a work in congress that is trying to do the will of the people. host: natalie andrews here to talk, you can read her piece online at wsj.com. first call is from the independent line and washington state area peggy, you are on. caller: hi, natalie. a lot of people have been calling in and saying nancy pelosi should have called in the d.c. national guard, everybody knows or should know the d.c. national guard -- nancy pelosi cannot do this. she can put in a request to the sergeant of arms, so could have mitch mcconnell. then it goes up the chain. it goes from the major general to d.c. national guard to the secretary of the army, to the secretary of defense. then, the president has to approve it.

then back down, finally the general nature of the d.c. national guard. they then collect the national guard. i just wanted to get that cleared up, thank you. host: miss angers -- andrews, i suppose republicans and democrats would say after the events of january 6, security could be something we could come together on. how has that baird out -- bared out? guest: there is a lot of frustration over security in the capital -- capitol. republicans and democrats have condemned january 6 and called for increased security. kevin mccarthy would like nancy pelosi to focus specifically on security in the capital -- capitol and approving that. the house speaker has a broader list of what she would like to address in reaction to january 6, that includes the investigation into how the riot

happened, the events leading up. we understand public hearings should happen soon, that will address capital security, events and possibly communications leading up to that day. host: i suppose the committee itself could be a source of contention, at least for republicans on capitol hill. guest: we have seen criticized liz cheney, adam kinzinger, these are republicans who are diehard republicans. liz cheney is a republican through and through. however, because of the stances she has taken against president trump and because of his position as the former top leader of the republican party and how he reshaped the republican party during his tenure as president, liz cheney has seen herself as a frequent criticism. she lost her place of house leadership, that decision

internally in the party is affecting congress as well. interparty divisions and divisions in between democrats and republicans. host: i will play a bit from liz cheney yesterday talking about this anniversary, particularly her perspective. then we will come back to you. [video clip] >> democrats are planning a vigil. the former president is planning a news conference. are you concerned about the country being at risk of political violence this week and the years ahead? >> if what he has been saying since he left office is any indication, former president trump is likely again this week to make the same false claims about the election that he knows to be false and the same false claims about the election he knows caused violence on january 6. i think it is indeed very concerning, given what we know

happened in the lead up and what the committee is finding out about the events of that day. if it is -- it is not surprising. he knows these claims caused violence. we see people who were in the capitol, people who were arrested because of their activities. they themselves have told us in court filings, on social media, on video they were here because donald trump told them to be here. so he is doing this press conference on the sixth. if you mix those same claims, he is doing it with complete understanding and knowledge of what those claims have caused in the past. this is a man who has demonstrated he is at war with the rule of law, he has demonstrated he is willing to blow through every guardrail of democracy and he can never be anywhere near the oval office again. he has demonstrated a complete lack of fitness for office. host: i do not know if you know the minute by minute relations between republicans and liz

cheney herself, but how would you characterize that? guest: liz cheney is a republican. but the relationship between her and the republicans in the caucus is tense. they have been calls for her to lose all committee positions, they do not like she has taken the spot. it is a tough place for her to be. host: when it comes to the events she's talked about, a lot of the events we will see this week, how do you think this will rub against what you write about as far as relations when they will be visited at length this week? guest: expect to hear how lawmakers have addressed the terrible day in the capitol. when you see members downplaying that day in which people came in and were looking for specific members of congress, calling and saying they wanted to stop the democratic process from happening, in some cases brought

weapons, made it democrats and lawmakers feel like their lives are being threatened. expect that to play out. expect democrats and republicans to speak on the house floor on that day. it will talk about that. there is a lot of trauma in the capitol, a lot of ptsd. this weekend is going to be tough in that building for a lot of people. expect members to be very emotional and talk about that day, how they had to spend most of the day in a safe room with each other. even though they thought they were going to come together and certify the election at the end of that day, they did not. they still ended the day with deep divisions, that will play out further. host: you should know c-span conducted a series of interviews with members of capitol hill about their experiences on january 6, talking about the events of that day and the

following. if you want to go to our website and find a series of interviews, you're welcome to do so at c-span.org. this is steve from north carolina, republican line. caller: i would like to ask both of you democrats a question if you do not mind, then make a statement about roseann on january 6. are you all both aware of the true of the fbi, seeing as how using the fbi was not involved, the fbi with the beginning of donald trump's presidency when they sat down with barack obama, joe biden and hillary clinton and let accrue for russia collusion that you people in the media lied about every day for three years? host: is that the question you want our guest to address? caller: no, sir. host: what makes it affect? -- a fact.

caller: that they let accrue -- a coup? host: you are not going to throw me off topic. -- caller: you are not going to throw me off topic. host: you are on with our guest. if you would like to direct or a question or comment, please do so. caller: roseann was murdered in d.c. by the d.c. police. before you ask where i heard this, this is from a lawyer of the people that are being illegally detained. host: how does that relate to the topic we are talking about? caller: it is january 6, is it not? she witnessed the lady murdered, the judge stated for fact, it is on record, if the video gets out of her being murdered in the tunnel it will happen again. host: you made your point. you can address it you wish.

guest: his point goes to the division in this country. i talked to congressman john curtis for this piece. he talked about how -- they are in congress because they are representing their voters and voter opinions. that is one reason why some members vote the way they did in response to the election and lawmakers make controversial statements because they are trying to represent their own basis. that leads to a division. it is interesting, sometimes detected democrats and they said no, we need to lead out and be a moral compass, there is a real debate on as a member of congress representative, should they be standing up differently than how they feel their base wants them to do at home? host: democrats line, mark,

hello. caller: you kind of still my thunder with that response. as we speak today, 75% of registered republicans according to polls belief trump won the election and it was stolen. 75%, which is just incredible to me. if you are a republican congressman from a deep red congressional district and the majority of your voter base believes trump won the election, it was stolen, what are you going to say? are you going to get up in front of congress into say it was a free and fair election and trump lost? you are not going to say that. you are going to say we are constituents want to hear. how do we address that? i would like your response, thank you. guest: i think it is tough.

the investigative claims of election fraud from the trump campaign, it is important to know there were dozens of cases that were brought to the court. there was no evidence of significant voter fraud that would have changed the results of the election. that is an important fact to note, especially in the events leading up to january 6. it is important to note that is where members were coming to. there were republicans who wanted an audit, wanted more of an investigation. some of them said they wanted to do that because they wanted voters to feel confident in the results. but the fact of the matter is, we were coming to january 6 after courts investigated that. that is up to members of congress to decide whether they look at the facts, you are right. members of congress, especially in the house, are looking at reelection every two years. that totally reflects in the building.

members of the house cannot do anything without it showing up -- without voters thinking of it, because it is so recent when they come on which is the senate, for you have six years. maybe you can take a controversial vote here and there. but you have seen lawmakers in the course of the nation history take a stand and know this vote they are about to take could cost them their seat. whether or not the vote they take does and whether or not the vote they take is defined by a moral compass, that has certainly happened. it happened the affordable care act, democrats said they were walking the plank, they believed it was important for the country. it certainly happened with some republicans who voted to impeach the president after january 6. some of them have chosen to retire instead of run again because they feel like reelection would be tenuous.

certainly it has happened in the nation's history and we have seen it play out. host: in your piece that people can find online, you talk about specific threats made to legislators. we will show than the chart, but talk about what is going on with these numbers. guest: the numbers have skyrocketed in recent years. we talked a -- two -- to capitol police, i think it is important to look at those numbers and see how they have increased in think about how a lawmaker is approaching a job in 2021 or 2022 versus how they may have approach the job five years ago. if you are showing up to work and you are worried about your life being threatened, your family being threatened, you may approach her job differently. you may vote differently, because you are worried about safety or safety of your family. host: from mike on the line for

independence in ohio. caller: good morning, thank you for c-span. i am an independent, only twice since 1972 have i voted for the winner of the white house. but i do vote republican religiously for city council in akron, i vote republican every time. however, when it comes to national politics, it is not that way. i cannot believe we have republicans in the senate and congress who worship trump. he has all the charm of a carnival barker. i've been to county fairs. they are nice people, when off the clock. but trump is never off the clock. he is a constant carnival barker. we have so many educated people in congress who fear his wrath. as far as hillary is concerned,

i had to hold my nose to vote for her. host: we will leave it to the previous comment. natalie, as far as president trump's influence on the issue on republican members of congress, how would you describe that? guest: republican lawmakers who want reelection want donald trump's endorsement in this cycle. they want to make him happy in order to get that. that it -- that certainly overshadows what republican lawmakers are doing right now. host: from billy in new york, democrat line. caller: speaking from wall street journal, you get a lot of both sides. like choosing chocolate or vanilla. you have 147 republicans in the house who refused to certify a valid election. adam kinzinger -- republicans

who believe the big lie -- they know ted cruz, josh hawley, contempt for constituents. you have a majority of republicans refusing to believe the 2020 election was a valid majority in adam kinzinger -- and adam kinzinger said they spread like crazy. even kevin brady said there were upstanding republicans. i was wondering why you should cooperate went the other side doesn't even believe you were validly elected and is saying your part of the -- and to send you are the jihad squad. [indiscernible]

guest: i can understand the frustration. their specific able to work together to solve problems of the american people, that is what the founding fathers wanted. but it is hard to do that when you have members who are not necessarily operating in a place of respect. there is a lack of respect on both sides. but there is certainly difference in the claims that republicans are talking about when they talk about whether or not the election was valid and democrats are coming from a place where they felt their lives were threatened, they felt like january 6 needed to be taken more seriously. those are two very different places to be coming from and two very different places to start a discussion. host: when it comes to security

itself on the capital, what changed after january 6? how much is still in place? guest: the biggest change is lawmakers have to walk through meg nonvoters to get to the house floor. a clear example -- magnometers. a clear example of distress. i talked to a democratic former police officer, he said he feels like they should be set up to walk people who are making those threats, not people who were victims. they people like crazy -- beep like crazy. as i have watched members walk through those, i look at the capitol police and dozens of police members were injured that day and they themselves face trauma. if the magnometers make them feel like there is more protection and understanding of

threats in the capitol, i can understand why they may want them there. they may want certain changes. there have been changes in terms of legislation that allow more backup to come to the capitol should the attack -- an attack happen that are designed to change security. but there are a lot of things that are gummed up that have not happened that capitol police have asked for. host: we saw a speaker announced a fine for congress numbers that bypass the magnometers. guest: most members tend to cooperate. we see a lot of them disregarding the mask policy on the house floor. several republicans do not wear masks, marjorie taylor greene has racked up quite -- thousands of dollars in fines, i did not of the latest number because she does not like to wear masks on the house floor.

most members, because they are walking by a capitol police officer who is handling it, there is a level of respect. so most members do stop, they acknowledge the police. they just do not like doing it. host: this is john, republican line. caller: good morning. i understand the six the moment of the constitution of our country guarantees a speedy trial. there have been people in this riot that have been in jail almost a year. a lot of them have been in solitary confinement. i think that is very unjust to anybody, thank you. host: we will go to and from north carolina, democrat line. caller: i would like to make two points. first, i think the republicans were trying to chase a budget by trying to turn the focus off

security that day. if someone breaks into your home , my guess is the police are going to focus on trying to find out who broke in and the motivation, not the kind of security you had at that time. i think that is something that will be discussed later. secondly, aren't representatives voted on to tell the truth, not go along with what constituents say? they are there to tell everyone the truth. thank you. host: natalie andrews. guest: that second point does go to what lawmakers have been asked. another caller brought that up. when you as a voter vote for a member of congress, what are you expecting them to do? are you expecting them to go to congress, during committees, conduct investigations then vote with information they have that may be more than what a voter has and take that, that is how

they legislate? or are you expecting them to execute what, as a voter, you will even -- believe in? those are two different things. we believe members of congress have different thoughts. host: i know over the years on this program, we have invited members to come on, sometimes associated with the problem solvers congress and others on separate legislation. what are they doing to keep the idea of bipartisanship alive, especially of the things you are describing? guest: you bring up the caucus, that is one of the few strong bipartisan legislative groups on capitol hill. they want to make a difference. it can be debated on how much difference they've been able to push and pull in different legislation, but this is a group that meets regularly, that talks

about legislation. there is a lot of bipartisan caucuses that are not necessarily as legislation focus. but this group is. they meet regularly and talk about everything from spending bills to pandemic response. this group almost fell right after january 6. they strive to have an even number of democrats and republicans so they can talk and potentially vote together if they take a stand on legislation. there were four members of the caucus, the members have changed since january. there were four members at the time who voted against certifying the election. when i talked to congressman dean phillips, the democrat from minnesota, he said he almost left the problem solvers caucus. it was hard for him to think about working with these people. he said he wanted to become a member of the problem solvers

caucus more than a member of congress. he had such respect for that group and what they were trying to do, repair the damage in congress. but he said it was really hard. i talked to tom reed, congressman from new york who was at the time a co-chair. he said the group almost fell apart, that they had to have several sessions where they just aired grievances, talked about the division, january 6, members who voted against certifying a state election results. they had to have a kind of group therapy for several sessions about this moment. and what it had done to the relationship in the group. host: robert in new york, republican line. caller: i would like to make a few points today. number one, no police officer was ever murdered in the riot.

trump had nothing to do with them, we all know that. he did not control the people. nancy pelosi was the head of security. there was one murder, the women they shot and the had no one ever talks about. two, all the cops and riots and all the people murdered and all the states where they said it is ok to rob, go take what you want, they are still doing it. no one is trying to find these criminals. they are still letting people rob because they can just go ahead and steal because they need to feed their family. but they're not robbing grocery stores. how ridiculous is that? our president commends the crime by other people coming across the border illegally -- host: we will leave it there. the idea of security, did you spend time at the capital and as far as manpower and the capitol

police, what are the differences you are seeing? we heard the police chief talking about them trying to rebuild the force. what do you see on capitol hill day in and day out? guest: the members of the capitol police are under a lot of strain because they are having to work a lot of overtime. they have lost members, they are struggling to fill shifts. they have to work overtime, it is a taxing job. it is important to review the facts. seven people died as a result of that day. there were officer suicide that have been connected to that day. a police officer did die from his injuries from that day. it is incredibly tragic. the police officer who shot ashli babbitt outside of the house chamber was cleared of all wrongdoing. so it is important to know those facts have been investigated and established.

this is a police force that has now undergone a lot of trauma. there have been policeman who died since that day through an attack. so it is certainly a tough force to be a member of this year. this has been one of the worst years for capitol police. host: independent line, kansas city, missouri. caller: i was wondering if the democratic lady knew anything about what kind of [indiscernible] host: thank you, voice. -- royce. guest: i did not quite hear the question, i member of the wall street journal and not a member of any political party. i wanted to clear that up. [indiscernible] host: we've lost them both.

natalie, because you talked about what is going on because of january 6 and you talked about things that have to be done in congress, remind people about the agenda in the second term, the things i need to be accomplished only in short-term but long-term. guest: expect to hear a lot about the spending bill, congress kicked the can down the road as they left to do into february on spending. so expect to start hearing more discussions about a government shutdown, whether we will have it and what congress needs to do to avoid that. we know those discussions need to happen, we are not hearing a lot of movement. not a lot of movement was expected over the christmas break, but expect to hear that now. in the senate, discussions about voting rights legislation, access to voting. you will hear discussions about the filibuster.

chuck schumer would like to bring voting legislation to the floor, he has support of his democratic caucus, you need 60 votes in order to start discussion on a bill. he does not have 10 republicans who will join him. so expect to hear discussions on senate rules. we are headed into an election year, a midterm year. there is not going to be a lot of progress in congress. expect them to keep the lights on and debate bills that have to pass. the next big thing in there is the spending bill. host: would legislators tell you january 6 will be part of the midterm election process, or theme? guest: i think you could see it as a theme. there will be some districts where they will not talk about it at all, and there may be some competitive districts where it comes up. and midterm elections, it is a

referendum on the president and how he is doing. they all tie into january 6, biden was not the president then. i would expect to hear a lot about supply chain issues, the economy. . whatever happened this or that reflects on the economy and pandemic response. because voters tend to vote with what is facing them right now, in front of them. those issues will be more front and center. host: this is pamela in new york, democratic line. caller: i have a comment, then a couple questions. my comment is, i was watching television on the sixth with a dear friend of mine who is in new york, i was in oregon at the time. i am 73, she was close to 90. i was in tears over what was going on. it was one of the saddest days of my entire life, january 6.

into the man who said something about hilary, let me see if she had one, we would not be where we are now. number two, i would like to ask a question. when nixon did the watergate scandal, the republican party turned on him and said that is it, we are done with you. that is when he decided to resign. i have his speech on a cd about that. he decided to resign after they said we want you out. i want to know what kind of power does trump have that is backing his ability to do all of what he is doing, to keep the republican party from doing what is right? there is some kind of power behind this, it is very scary. i am a democrat, i feel that democracy is at stake here. host: pamela will finish us off, go ahead. guest: when i talked to

republicans and democrats about this, there are several lawmakers who share a worry over how much power trump has. nixon lost the support of his party. donald trump has a lot of control, he has a very strong base that follows him. there were several people who went to the capitol on january 6 because they felt donald trump had called them to do so. that power over voters matters a lot when you want to get elected in the fall. it is a different time then when nixon was president. as long as donald trump has that kind of control over his base, republican lawmakers who need his endorsement to be reelected will look to him. host: natalie enters reports for the wall street journal, you can find her work on their website. she serves a >> c-span's washing.

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