love olivia what you said. this is a moment for bravery and we all up to go forward with the hashtag genocide olympics. so thank you so much for being here. thank youolivia, thank you lee thank you all for being here . >> the house of representatives today debated legislation to name post offices around the country. they return at 6:30 p.m. eastern to vote on those bills and we'll have live coverage here on c-span. later in the week, a bill to expand u.s. production of semiconductors. most are made abroad and there's currently a shortage of semiconductors resulting in higher prices for autos and electronics. of "winter is

coming: why vladimir putin must be stopped." thank you for giving us your time today. you said, stop seeing this as a ukraine problem. there will always be a belarus or syria or ukraine problem if the putin problem is not dealt with. guest: it is important to understand that we are talking about putin's problem and he is causing problems in belarus, venezuela, and many african countries. we do not have to look for more evidence but just listening to his own words. 15 years ago in munich at the security conference, he made a very clear statement about his intentions. he talked about a return to the time of the influence.

he claims that russia would be entitled to control not only republics, but also a return to its dominant position in eastern europe. and since no one wanted to believe him, he followed up with his promise. in 2008, he attacked the republic of georgia. six years after that, eight years ago in 2014, he and next crimea -- he annexed crimea. also he appeared -- reappeared in many parts of the world. my doors arrived because of support from russia and we can see putin's military and

oligarchs boosting activities across the african continent. it is all about putin and we should recognize that putin is an existential threat not just for america or europe or ukraine, but to the very principle of the free world because he does not believe in self-determination and universal freedom. what he thinks should happen is division of the world between free and unfree and people like him are in their rights to exploit people they control and nobody should intervene with their criminal activities. host: you also wrote about what is going on. "sanctions must come now before putin invades again. if we do not call his bluff, it is not a bluff at all."

talk about his approach to dealing with russia and ukraine and how effective that might be. guest: when we hear the word sanctions, people get confused. sanctions have been implement it eight years ago and they never worked. there are sanctions that have been imposed on russia and crimea. they never touched the foundation of putin's power. if we look at the number of russian billionaires, it keeps increasing all the time. no matter what angela merkel told us about europe's united position against russian aggression, what matters to putin is the amount of russian gas and it doubled in 2014.

we have to make sure that putin recognizes that the price of further aggression, the cost could be too high for him. it is not just making threats. it is about making laws that will convince him that america and europe our series. even if we are not ready to implement sanctions against russia and his oligarchs and the russian financial system, it should be put in a bill that will trigger automatically if he does this or that. right now, there is a big talk but there is very little to convince putin that the cost of his aggression will be prohibited. host: democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001.

independent (202) 748-8002. it was yesterday that both the russian diplomat and ambassador and the american ambassador to the united nations, i want to play what she had to say about the situation and get your response to it. [video clip] >> in all of these talks, our messages have been clear and consistent. we seek the path of peace, we seek the path of dialogue. we do not want confrontation. but we will be decisive, swift, and united should russia further invade ukraine. we continue to believe there is a diplomatic path out of the crisis caused by russia's military buildup. we are working to pursue diplomacy in every possible venue. but we also know that diplomacy will not succeed in an atmosphere of threat and

military escalation. that is why we have brought this situation before the security council today. the united states has been clear , if this is truly about russia's security concerns, we are offering them an opportunity to address these concerns at the negotiating table. the test of russia's good faith in the coming days and weeks is whether they will come to that table and stay at that table until we reach an understanding. if they refuse to do so, the world will know why and who is responsible. host: that was the ambassador to the united nations talking about the u.s.'s approach. what do you think of that approach? guest: it is good to hear that now instead of saying if putin, they say if he further invades

because that is a correct statement. putin has invaded ukraine already. i am not sure that putin is impressed because the american administration is still talking about some mythical russian security concerns. no one is threatening russia. thinking that baltic states could represent any threats to russian security is nonsense. it is russia that is threatening all of these countries by invading the republic of georgia and ukraine. it proves that eastern european that have been suffering under occupation for more than four day kids -- four decades, they rushed to nato to have an umbrella. hearing these outcries in russian media, which is totally under government control and listening just to get an idea of

what is being told to people in russia, missiles from ukraine to russia could be a huge threat to russia's security is absolute nonsense.

if he crosses the demarcation line and pushes into ukraine, it will be major conventional war and it will lead to massive casualties on both sides. host: as far as the strongest hand the u.s. could play, would -- what would that look like? the foreign minister, she a very strong statement about going after russian oligarchs and their illicit wealth in the u.k. and it continues in moscow. they are shouting, you hear

outcries and threats to great britain and america has more leverage. if america decides to join great britain and push european allies to announce immediate sanctions, i am not saying do it now, but to make clear that any aggressive act from putin will immediately trigger sanctions, not new consultations, not debates on how we do that because the democratic process is long and putin knows that. they are not going to turn back because of sanctions. right now, it is time to announce a very clear package of sanctions that will help putin personally, his oligarchs, and the most vital part of putin's economy. i say his economy because it is

all about oil and gas and natural resources. it is unfortunate that russia, a country that is known for its brilliant, is reduced -- known for its brilliance is reduced to a >> the house today -- brought two very important candidates for the presidency. it was amazing two candidate, hillary clinton and donald trump had a combined negative rating of 120%. and i thought that americans had to recognize the value of their

democracy. it seems to me many things have been taken for granted and i wanted to share my experience and people like me to point out the danger of it on both sides. now we see that on the right off cult of personality and on the left a cult of ideology. this -- these two ill liberal trends competing with each other, fighting each other, leads to the decimation of the political center. and the board reflects the nonpartisan approach. two members of the board are former democratic senators. then we have michael steele, the former head of r.n.c. and colonel vindman and many

other people who look at these issues not from the point of view but from just a global perspective and i also trying to utilize my own experience as a dissident and also in my foundation bringing dissidents from other places to tell american, especially young american, how to fight for democracy and also to recognize the threat to democracy no matter whether it comes from far let of -- for a left or far right. host: our guest's claim to fame was being the youngest world chess champion in the world by 1985. gary kasparov. we have a tweet from a viewer if that says nato will do nothing because they need oil and gas but the u.s. might because of the biden relationship.

guest: that's what we hear every night on tonguer carlson. this point of view. let's start with russian oil and gas. it's more about gas. and it's correct that europe buys nearly one third of its gas, natural gas consumption from russia. but russia sells # 0% -- 20rbg ts the vote on the vote of the the gentlewoman from from florida to suspend the rules and pass home run 5577. the clerk will report the title. the clerk: a built to designate the facility of the united states postal at 3900 crown road southwest in atlanta, georgia as john r. lewis post office building. the speaker pro tempore: the question is will