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with the washington post come out to talk about title 42 and a ruling by a judge friday. let us first remind our viewers what is title 42. guest: title 42 is the public health authority of the centers for disease control and prevention. the trump administration declared it at the border in march 2020 to beginning of the pandemic, giving u.s. agents the ability to quickly turn back or return border crossers to mexico or countries of origin and to block asylum-seekers who are attempting to come to the u.s. border and enter through official ports of entry, saying there are emergency conditions and a pandemic and normal immigration rules and

protections must be suspended. that policy has been used since then about 2 million times by the u.s. government to return migrants to mexico or send them back to their home countries. host: what was the biden administration attempting to do on title 42? guest: the biden administration wanted to end it and the centers for disease control and prevention ran a study determining it was safe to end the policy and go back to normal immigration rules at the border. they set may 23 as the day it would end. the department of homeland security went through preparations getting ready for what they anticipated will be a bigger surge of migration across the border but two dozen attorneys general sued the biden administration to block this.

after getting a temporary restraining order from a judge in louisiana stopping them from winding it down, they secured a preliminary injunction friday that basically blocks the process of ending it all together and maintains the status quo at the border. host: what happens next? guest: the biden administration will go back to using title 42 in some cases but not others. the thing about the application of the policy is right now it is only being used for about half the people who come across the border. the aclu and soon the biden administration -- on the grounds that they said not -- should not be sent back to somewhere where they could be harmed. starting today, no family groups will be returned using title 42.

only about half of those who come across the border are subject to title 42 expulsions at this point, so we will continue with this kind of mismatch of policies at the border, different treatments for different groups and we are likely to see high border crossing numbers remain because many people who the biden administration expelled in mexico will quickly turn around and attempt another crossing. host: we are talking with the economy -- about the economy this morning with our viewers and which party they trust. there are some policies this administration has kept in place that impact the economy. tell us what they are and if there is any discussion by the white house to reverse them. guest: which are you referring to specifically? host: economic ones.

the lack of agriculture visas, that sort of thing, that allows people to come here to work and some return. guest: one thing we have seen is the inability of our legal temporary worker program to satisfy the demands of u.s. companies in the agricultural arena but really across the economy you hear from companies saying they would like to bring in more short-term temporary workers. those programs struggle to move quickly and you have to look at the extraordinary numbers of people crossing the border in part as a response to the demand for hiring for labor and the shortage of available workers, particularly in some blue-collar industries.

host: nick miroff is an immigration reporter. you can follow his work and follow him as well. thank you. let's pave it to the economy and which party you trust. we are dividing lines by party. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. text us. include your first name, city, and state at (202) 748-8003. we want to know which party you trust and why, what it is about the economic policy that you like. take a look at a recent poll put out sunday. pessimism grows as american views on the economy tanked. americans are growing frustrated with the state of the country amid economic uncertainty, inflation at a 40 year high, and

steep gas prices, with a poll showing 60% agreed the state of the nation is uneasy. a cbs poll found 69% say the economy is bad, up from 46% in the spring. nearly all democrats and republicans indicated they wanted candidates to focus on inflation as a top issue as americans continue to sour on the direction of the country. president biden talking about the economy during a news conference this morning with a japanese leader. here is what he had to say about addressing rising gas prices and food shortages that americans are facing. [video clip] >> when it comes to the gas prices, we are going through an incredible transition. god willing when it is over we will be stronger and the world will be stronger unless we are reliant on fossil fuels.

you see the importation of russian gas. i will not go through it all. what i have been able to do to keep it from getting worse -- cutting the price of gas at the pump i told you was a matter of discussion at the kitchen table when i was growing up. it is affecting a lot of families. we have released over 257,000 million barrels of oil. it has helped but it has not been enough. we find yourself in a situation where we have food shortages because of ukraine. there are millions of bushels of oil -- grain being held up in ukraine that would impact the market in terms of bringing down food prices. we are finding ourselves in a position where we are working hard with american farmers and

agricultural products. this will take some time, but in the meantime the best thing i can do in addition to trying to get middle eastern countries including opec to raise production of oil and move along that route is to continue to grow our economy and create jobs. host: president biden during a news conference in japan. you heard him say the administration is working hard and talked about some things they have done so far on the economy. you heard him say they're about releasing more oil, commencing opec to do so. reuters put out this tweet, that the president says he is weighing reducing tariffs on china as a way to bring down prices and asking opec to pump more oil.

do you believe the president and trust him on the economy or republicans? in georgia, democratic caller. we will go to you first. who do you trust? caller: thank you to c-span. i trust the democrats with the economy because republicans are nothing but thieves. they are only for themselves and democrats promote financial security for all americans, not necessarily just democrats but all americans. host: in what way do they do that? caller: the stimulus package that was given last year. it not only helps the democrats but helped republicans, libertarians, anyone who

received that stimulus check, whether they were a democrat or whatever their party affiliation. they received that money and i have not heard how many people returns that money to the federal government, so they used the money, whether they were affiliated with republicans, democrats, or libertarians or whatever. host: bill in midfield, massachusetts, republican, good morning. caller: how are you doing? can i ask a question before i state my thing? when is c-span going to do a video thing about the 2000 mules so we can find out what really happened in the 2020 election? i guess you are not going to do that. you sort of lean democrat.

this cannot be a serious topic today. this is the worst economy in the history of the united states. he stopped drilling two days after he got in office. we have the most oil in the world in america and we have to pay nine dollars a gallon for gas because they will not drill it. that ruined the economy. two days income on the economy was ruined by shutting down the pipeline, stopping drilling on federal land. there is still oil there. they are not allowing them to drill in alaska and stuff where the oil is because we might want to use gasoline powered cars. it is years away from electric cars. it is not weeks or months away.

it is a decade or two away. you have to use it. host: if republicans gain back the house and senate in november, what is priority number one for them? caller: drill, baby, drill. host: democratic caller. caller: that is funny. i think anybody can read, but i have not read anything about people stopping people from drilling. they got so many permits out there they are not using them, so i do not know what the guy is talking about about the pipeline that was not going to stay here. it is just going to screw the economy and everything up. you spill some of that and you are done. host: who do you trust on the

economy? caller: the democratic party. all you have to do is look at the history. how many times has a democratic administration bailed out a republican administration? our taxes are going to increase because the taxes that trump put in expire for the middle class but not for the wealthier. that is what biden said, anybody over 4 -- under 450,000 dollars would not get taxes raised. that is what he is trying to bring up. in 23, those taxes trump had for the middle class go away. these people start talking out of the side of their mouth. maybe they ought to start reading and looking at the history. just google how may times a democratic administration has brought down gas and it was paid for -- it was off the books in

2000 until george w. bush got in there. after that, we had obama and trump put $8 trillion on there. obama put money there to get the debt down and get everybody back to work and the economy booming. it is a travesty. look at unemployment now. i do not understand where the republicans come from other than talking points and listening to fox news. they have nothing to bring to the table. it is like the baby formula. host: let's listen to rick scott, who leads the senate committee in charge with gaining back the majority in november. here he is with face the nation and what he said he expects the biden administration strategy on the economy to bolster republican chances of gaining the majority. [video clip] >> the president is slow to

react, whether it is the border, inflation, gas prices, ukraine. the expectation is that whoever the president is gets ahead of the problems rather than behind them, so i think the election this fall will be about inflation and it bodes well for republicans. >> why do you think that? our poll shows republicans do not have much of an advantage on that issue. 51% of those polled trust the gop on inflation. how do you advise republicans to change that? >> it is important that we talk about what we are going to do and explain the problem the biden administration pass, that they do not react to record gas prices and open border, things like this, but also tell people what we are going to do to bring down inflation. we are going to balance the

budget and start watching the dollar closely. we are going to watch our spending. we are going to expect the federal reserve to reduce their balance sheet. we have to talk about the things we are going to do to make it better for people. if you look at races around the country, biden's numbers are bad and he is the face of the democratic party. host: rick scott talking about republicans and what they want to do. in miami, a republican. tell us why. caller: i favor the republicans for one reason. they seem to be the only party that still exists in america that believes in american capitalism and the private sector. your caller is talking about deficit spending. both parties have done that. government does not create wealth. people seem to have forgotten that. the fact that the government

goes out and starts spending money has -- does nothing to grow the economy. it creates people who become dependent on the government. it is the private sector that creates wealth in america and jobs. when you have a president who during the campaign trail came out on several occasions and said, i am going to shut down american fossil fuel industries, this is why you have gasoline approaching five dollars a barrel and diesel approaching six dollars a barrel. everything in this country runs on diesel fuel because that is what we used to run -- move merchandise around. people who voted for joe biden got exactly what he promised to them, which was to ruin the economy. that is what we are experiencing today. host: we will go to elbert.

which party do you trust? caller: the democrats because, like the previous caller said, they are always bailing out the republicans. they are like the child that comes in and ruins everything and we are like the adult that cleans up after them. after that they come back and say they are not doing a great job. host: how do they clean it up? what do you like about the policies they put forward? caller: going back to obama and even clinton, they talk about balancing the budget and republicans never balance the budget they just give to the 1%, which does not do anything for anybody else. the other caller was talking about the private sector. who buys the stuff from the private sector?

the people do not have money. who is going to buy stuff from the private sector? those loans you get from the bank do not usually go to the common man, so unless you have some money from previous times or your family or something, it is hard. host: cj and louisiana, independent. what do you say this morning? which party? caller: any sane person would have to look at the situation and go with the republican party. that poor man on tv a while ago at that conference does not know what state or country he is in. i do not know who is pulling the strings. it is probably obama and that bunch. with the republicans, the economy was going and going when trump was in there.

people were working. you cannot even find people to work now because they are living off the government. it sounds like it is a bolshevik country, not a free country anymore. the bolsheviks have gotten in. joe mccarthy was right. the communists are going to take over this country if we do not watch out. they are doing it. they have done it. host: let's listen to the president at the news conference he held this morning with the japanese leader. he was asked about prospects of a recession and what that might do to the economy. here he is. [video clip] >> is a recession in the united states inevitable? >> no. >> why not? >> you're talking about the significant progress we have made in making sure we do not have supply chain backups come

about the 8000 jobs created through georgia, 3000 jobs in texas through samsung, $17 billion investment. 1700 jobs in north carolina on technology. the situation where we have created new jobs where unemployment is down and so on and so forth as if they are a problem. imagine where we would be, had we not made that enormous progress. our gdp is going to grow faster than china's for the first time in years. does that mean we do not have problems? we do. we have problems the rest of the world has but less consequential because of our internal growth and strength. host: president biden would on

to say it could be a long haul but the recession is not inevitable. you heard him. do you trust the president and democrats or republicans? delete on the economy. what is your answer and tell us why? caller: my answer is this. i listen every day to your program and you always divide everybody. i look at things as a realist. all i hear is everything from the democrat side how shut everything down, not build it up. they want to make these conversations global, but when everything breaks down we have a pandemic. it is the global breakdown. i do not trust almost anyone

anymore because it is all about hatred, how much money you make in a campaign, whether you are trashed on media.

you had a man on texas saying he drove through oil country to work. all of the wells are shut down. if you want to talk conspiracy, the oil companies are raising the prices by manipulating the amount of oil they are producing to get the republicans who are oil friendly to win the election. they will do it and then you will see prices go down because oil will go down. these people need to rebuild the book. thank you so much.

kathy in north carolina, you are an independent, have you voted for democrats and republicans before? caller: yes i have.

host: which party do you trust? caller: the republicans. the reason why is the lady that called from georgia says democrats gave us the stimulus package for when covid hit the country. untrue. that was the republicans that was pushing for that. the republicans was considered the most wealthy party. that has turned around. it is now the democrats that are the most wealthy party. they are out for themselves. they are not out for the country . if people would just get on google and do research on their own and not just listen to the

main media, to what they are being fed with the media, do research on their own, they will find out things like that. host: who is the last democrat you voted for? caller: obama. host: once or twice? caller: once. host: and since then it has been republicans. caller: correct. host: tim in murfreesboro, illinois. caller: i vote for republicans because it costs $350 billion to support these illegal aliens. >> he and the chairman are prepared to give you some opening comments and then we have time for a few questions. i will leave it to the secretary. sec. austin: