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we are hearing from you and your reaction to what you saw and heard in the hearing. here are the lines. republicans (202) 748-8001. democrats (202) 748-8000. independents (202) 748-8002. send us a text if you like. you can post your thoughts on facebook and we look for your posts on twitter and instagram. most interested to hearing from those of you who watched the hearings last night live or we've been running them all night long on c-span. you can watch them on her mobile app. we will get to your calls momentarily. we have plenty of chances to see it again online. on this program, we will show you some of the highlights from the chair bennie thompson and

the vice chair liz cheney. the testimony that happened last night. reaction from elsewhere from republican members of the u.s. house. we will take a look at the schedule hearings to come. we will start there with our colleague. it was interesting last night to hear liz cheney building a timeline of what we will hear and how the committee will approach the next hearings. >> these hearings are just beginning this month. as you noted, opening statements, a timeline of the attack and a focus on the police who found themselves in a battle with the writers that they. liz cheney walking us through the road ahead. let's take a look at that. on monday, the next hearing starts at 10:00. it will focus on the post 2020

election claims and those. they will present evidence that president trump knew he lost the election and he engaged in an effort to spread false information to constituents. that is the second hearing on monday. also next week, the third hearing. that focus is on william barr and the justice department. that is the planet to replace his attorney general so the u.s. justice department spread his stolen election claims. the fourth hearing will focus on the efforts to pressure his vice president to refuse to count the electoral votes january 6. she said the fifth hearing will focus on pressure on state legislators and state election officials in the weeks after the

election, including calls to the georgia election officials to find votes. the final two hearings, the sixth hearing will focus on president trump's actions when it comes to the writers that day. what were his efforts to direct and point that mob toward the u.s. capitol. the final hearing would be a moment by moment account of the attack from more than half a dozen white house staff. they will be appearing live and via videotaped testimony. that is the road ahead. the next chance for us to see this unfold is monday. it is at 10:00 eastern. we are airing it here on c-span in its entirety. you can watch on our website c-span.org. host: we appreciate that.

we will hear more from john mcardle keep an eye on social media reactions. your thoughts on what you saw and heard in the hearings last night, (202) 748-8001 is the line for republicans. (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. independents (202) 748-8002. a couple of quick comments on twitter. some comments on the testimony of officer edwards last night. to your calls, we will go first

to san diego to hear from scott. caller: good morning. i don't usually call, maybe twice a year. i thought today would be a perfect day to do it. i grew up in the d.c. area. i spent many happy hours up and down the mall, i took a field trip to the capital to meet a congressman. when january 6 happened, i must tell you i was angry. more than that, i was heartbroken to see that happen on the grounds of the capital of this country. it was outrageous. it's been a long wait for the panel to finally get there sessions underway. host: what did you think of last night? caller: i thought they did a fine job.

i think we are going to learn something, not only about what happened, but about some of the rot that has creeped into our body politic. we are a country that has been around for a while. we are in our maturity. we are not a bunch of rowdy teenagers. we've got to start behaving in a manner consistent with being good americans. we can disagree, but when it comes to the death of capitol police, that is just outrageous. i won't stand for it. we need to change something. we need to change our hearts and minds maybe more than anything else. thank you for letting me chime in. host: in northern georgia, joe, good morning. caller: good morning. i watched the hearing.

in my judgment, i think there are a lot of questions about it. i think there was a lot of fraud. the people in georgia are not talking about the hearing. they are talking about inflation and the race coming up between brian kemp and stacey abrams. that's gonna be the biggest race in america. i think the people in georgia, all they hear them talking about is inflation, the cost of gas, i don't think this hearing will have much traction with the american people because everybody i talked to talk about high gas prices and high food prices. i don't think the majority of the american people are going to pay one bit of attention to these hearings. host: to james on the

independent line. good morning. caller: good morning morning. i only watched a few minutes of it. i recorded it and i will watch the whole thing. one of the things he said in the beginning was that donald trump lost these court cases. he did not lose any of them. the judges decided not to accept the cases. for the past year and a half, every news station has been saying he loses. he didn't lose. they did not accept it when the supreme court stepped in and made a mess out of state elections. the court system and the supreme court have decided to let the people and the government run presidential elections. he did not get into court and lose unless you can report

something that is different than what i've been reported. i don't know how this can be continued to be spoken about, even on c-span. someone needs to criticize that. he did not lose. host: this is the reporting of politico. the headline, trump allies narrate the case against him. >> donald trump lost the presidential election in 2020. the american people voted him out of office. it was not because of a rigged

system. it was not because of voter fraud. don't believe me, hear what his former attorney general had to say about it. i worn those who are watching, this contains strong language. >> i had three discussions with the president that i can recall. one was november 23, one was december 1 and one was december 14. i have been through the give-and-take of those discussions. i made it clear i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out the stuff, chai told the president was bullshit. i didn't want to be a part of it. i observed december 1, you can't

live in a world where the incumbent administration stays in power based on its view of -- unsupported by evidence that the there was fraud in the election. >> bill barr on election day, he was the attorney general of the united states. he was the top law-enforcement official in the country, telling the president what he thought about claims of a stolen election. donald trump had his days in court to challenge the results. he was within his rights to seek those judgments. in the united states, law-abiding citizens have those tools for pursuing justice. he lost in the courts justice he lost at the ballot box. in this country, that is the end of the line. for donald trump, that was only the beginning of what became a

sprawling multi step conspiracy aimed at overturning the presidential election. aimed at throwing up the votes of millions of americans, your votes, your voice in our democracy, and replacing the will of the people with his will to remain in power after his term ended. donald trump was at the center of this conspiracy. ultimately, donald trump, the president of the united states, spurred a mob of domestic enemies of the constitution to march down to the capital and subvert american democracy. host: we will spend the entire morning hearing from you and what you thought watching the first of several hearings. we will get to more of your calls momentarily.

>> as we often do after big days on capitol hill, it is helpful to take a peek at how these events are playing out on the online media from the conservative side and the liberal side. in an effort to do that, we will start with some left-leaning news sites. this is from the huffington post. to the daily beast headline, mike pence deserves it, trumps dark desire, calling it primetime history. the first january sixth hearing served up surprising revelations that all point to trump. that first hearing lived up to the ample hype surrounding it.

we take you to the right side of the aisle to the conservative media. this is breitbart, calling it a circus. democrats try to bore americans to tears. it is a series of running headlines from breitbart. they called it repetitive last night. from the daily caller, it took only minutes for democrats to invoke the kkk and slavery during the hearing. from red state, hilarious is the headline. trying to temper expectations as cheney spins like crazy. a view from the left and the right and how this played out yesterday. the perspective of the man who really was the focus of the hearings and will be the focus going forward, this is donald

trump on his social media website. this is what he wrote just before the hearing, saying they did not spend one minute studying the reason people went to washington in massive numbers. he posted again after the hearing. newsweek wrapped up some of what he had to say.

that was the former president's comments after the hearing last night. host: we will go back to our colors. hello to donald. caller: good morning. i think merrick garland should have a subpoena for trump and arrest him today. to the gas prices, people have got to remember, when trump left office, the economy was ruined. this stems to donald trump's administration. it's a shame when the truth is the light and the lie is the truth. host: in york city, the independent line. hello.

caller: hello. host: go ahead. caller: i was struck -- there was an almost offhand comment that the groups that organized the insurrection had guns and ammunition off to the side in case trump should call upon the insurrection act. the pitched battle that we saw, it's amazing. it was all fought without guns and bullets except for one bullet to a person who was about to enter the chamber. amazing restraint, i guess maybe that's the wrong word. it's amazing that both sides refrain from using guns and how much worse it would've been if it had been a shooting war.

i was also struck, the filmmaker requested filming before and during the insurrection. i'm sure his documentary is going to be worth watching when it comes out. host: next up is our democrats line. linda, what are your thoughts? good morning. caller: can you hear me? host: go ahead. linda, you are on the air. caller: i think the january sick commission -- i don't agree with liz very much because she voted

with trump 93% of the time. she told the truth. she put her job on the line. all of those republicans, when it comes to the security of this country, if we don't stand up the truth, we will not have a democracy. those witnesses that testified and the video right in your face told the truth. you can deny it and pledge allegiance to trump, trump does not give his allegiance to you. it is what he wants and that's it. when he gets what he wants, he

will move his supporters to the side. he won't need them anymore. he went to court 60 times, judges that he appointed, they turned him down. people need to pay attention if you want a constitutional republic to be standing. thank you so much. host: next up is arthur on the republican line. caller: thank you for taking michael. i have a question and a comment. i am assuming and i hope somebody can of forming this, there is going to be an indictment which could lead to a trial. i am wondering, what is going to happen with the jury after all of this public exposure of the data ahead of time?

maybe someone with a legal background can answer that for me. host: was it your sense that will be the outcome of this? there will be some sort of trial? there are already cases pending against some of the participants. could there be a justice department case against the former president? caller: that's what i have been assuming. it looks to me like they are going to have a trial. i don't know. i was hoping somebody might be able to give me some better information. host: let's hear from liz cheney as she lays out part of the case against the former president. >> you will hear testimony that the president did not want to put anything out calling off the riot or ask a supporters to

leave. you will hear the president yelling and really angry advisors who told him he needed to be doing something more. aware of the chants to hang mike pence, he said they be our supporters have the right idea. mike pence deserves it. you will hear evidence that president trump refused four hours to do with his staff, his family, many of his other advisers begged him to do, instructed supporters to stand down and evacuate the capital. tonight, you will see never before seen footage of the brutal attack on our capital. it's an attack that unfolded while a few blocks away president trump sat watching television in the dining room next to the oval office. you will hear audio from the

brave police officers battling for their lives and hours, fighting to defend our democracy against a violent mob donald trump refused to call off. tonight and in the weeks to come, you will see evidence of what motivated this violence, including directly from those who participated in the attack. you will see video of them explaining what caused them to do it. you will see their posts on social media. we will show you what they have set in federal court. on this point, there is no room for debate. those who invaded our capital and battled law enforcement for hours are motivated by what president trump had told him, that the election was stolen and he was the rightful president. president trump summoned the mob, assembled the mom, -- mob, lit the flame of the attack. host: this is from twitter.

let's hear from jim in florida. caller: good morning.

i could probably speak half an hour on the subject. i had to pick one thing that bothers me the most about this situation. i believe the united states is sinking or maybe it is already sunk. look what's happened. we had a president who was in an election, during an election, was not allowed to speak on social media. look at what happened to the parents of children in virginia being investigated by the fbi. we have people in jail or being arrested for just being in

washington dc on january 6. the biggest symbol of the police state is the committee itself. there is no voices to bring other facts to the four. people are becoming scared to speak out, to use free speech. it is the saddest thing that could possibly happen. liz cheney is part of it. she is enabling it. donald trump is probably the first resident who actually volunteered to be president. he gave away all of his salary. everything he has done is to expose the swamp in washington.

host: two hour democrats line. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i am like the previous collars, i have to be selective because there are so many different things you could say about it. i watched the entire hearing. i thought it was very compelling. i like the way it was focused on planning ahead of time, which was very important. you can get at some of the people at the very top who were instrumental in creating this

situation with this insurrection. it was fascinating. bill barr and ivanka is testimony was very revealing and compelling. you're not talking about people on one side of the fence. you are talking about people who were trump allies. they made it pretty clear that it was a bunch of crap. people don't understand the court system. you have to have some type of evidence before you take something to court to make proof of what you were arguing in court. that proof did not exist. it was compelling and it was a good start. it kind of gave you a little

understanding of where this was leading. it's necessary to create proof there wasthis. and donald trump was definitely involved in it. i would say, great start, cannot wait to see what comes next. it is understandable why republicans don't want to hear any of this stuff. host: the first of what we expect to be a half-dozen public hearings on the select committee on january 6. john mcardle also keeping an eye on other social media postings. the two members that we heard from last night, the chair, bennie thompson, liz cheney, the vice chair. a lot of folks talking about them. >> we also heard from a lot of other members via social media.

these are the folks who experienced january 6 firsthand here on capitol hill. i want to run through the reaction before, during, and after the hearing last night from members of congress. let me start with congresswoman sara jacobs, the democrat from california. her tweet saying, just before it started, i just walked into the january 6 committee hearing. i'm sitting with the same colleagues that i was trapped within the house gallery january 6. we deserve to know the truth of what happened that day, who was involved, and how people hold them accountable. one of the other colleagues in the gallery that day, dean phillips, posting a picture that he took talking about the gallery group, reconvening the folks that were trapped in the gallery that day. there is the picture with dean phillips with his fellow democratic colleagues. you might remember another picture that was made pretty

famous since the attack on the capitol. this is the photo of tom williams from roll call, won some awards. that is democratic congressman jason crow holding the hand of susan wild. it was unclear whether riders would break into the chamber of the capitol. those members now referring to themselves as the gallery group payment republicans taking a much different approach in their reaction yesterday. this was congressman jim jordan last night just as the hearing was starting to wrap up, saying where is the prime time hearings on president biden's botched afghanistan withdrawal? debbie lesko of arizona saying the number of questions that six committee should be asking tonight during the hearing, the number one question should be

why the u.s. capitol was not secure. this from congresswoman lisa mcclain, republican of michigan. i wanted to grab some popcorn to watch this hoax hearing but grocery prices are at all-time highs. one more from the republican side of the aisle, mario diaz-balart, saying today's january 6 committee is the most blatant attempt to distract the american people from the disasters and failed policies of the democratic party. those were some of the republicans watching. two republicans on the panel had been actively participating in this investigation, adam kinzinger, and the co-chair, liz cheney. the republican cochair of the committee had some harsh words for her republican colleagues who continue to support donald trump and his version of events from january 6. [video clip] >> in our country, we don't swear an oath to an individual

or political party. we take an oath to defend the united states constitution, and that oath must mean something. tonight, i say this to my republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible. there will come a day when donald trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain. >> that was liz cheney last night during the hearing. i have not found on social media any republican members of congress reacting to that, her calling out republican members. but i did find some democrats reacting to those statements, her and adam kinzinger's work on the committee. this is from steve:, democrat from tennessee. liz cheney and adam kinzinger are profiles encourage. honored to serve with these american heroes. brendan boyle, democrat of pennsylvania, saying that liz cheney is a profile encourage. she inspires me. host: we had a call a few

minutes ago from plantation, florida talking about donald trump being banned from twitter toward the end of his presidency. a response from twitter. no, caller, the former occupant of the oval office was removed for violating their private policy. millions of americans are on twitter and exercise free speech without violating their policy. the problem is he thinks he is above law and policy. let's go to santa clarita, california. independent line. caller: this whole thing is trying to prevent trump from running for president again. it should not be about january but december. session number three is when they will break out the felony conspiracy election tampering stuff. all of this writing, that is a washington, d.c. police problem. all of this fake election is just propagandist campaigning. everything that happened in

december is totally felony conspiracy, like you are going to jail. it is all trying to get trump on a felony so that he cannot run for president. forget about the riots, it is all about the december, not the january. host: thanks for that. we will have john run down the timeline of the timeline of the things that liz cheney laid out. we will do that in about 25 minutes. jamaica, new york on the independent line. dewayne, go ahead. caller: good morning. liz cheney and thompson, they did a wonderful job in putting out what is going on. they were not grandstanding, they were to the point. it was a relief that they were able to do that. i hope through the entire committee that they all stay

within their realm of not being grandstanding for the television. another thing i want to point out, as a law enforcement person, i see my fellow women and men in blue being tortured by these insurrectionists. why are we not feeling the pain of these officers? i hear these callers calling in, they all talk about protecting trump, but the offices that we are trying to protect the members of congress. where is the empathy for them? it is always about trump, protecting trump. what has trump done to protect america? host: kenneth is next in diamond, missouri. on the republican line. caller: good morning, america. i will make a statement and please don't cut me off. now, immigrants believe in democracy, but the democracy

they believe in is majority over minority at all levels of government. this is nothing but a dog and pony show. liz cheney is going to lose this coming election, and she knows it, so she is trying to get her vengeance out here on tv before she gets swamped by the big red wave coming in november because of high gas prices, because of baby formula shortages, because of everything being high. you democrats are going to pay for it, you surely are. in november, a lot of you will be surprised that there will be some in congress for a long time that will be thrown out of congress. liz cheney will be one of them that are gone host: thank you for the call.

we look at the opinion pages. in the wall street journal, the headline, the on credible january 6 committee. she writes, what is missing in this special sauce of prime tv hours, slip use, positive press, is one ingredient truly vital for public interest, credibility. if huge slavs of america ignore the committee's work it will be because the committee itself, through its construction and actions have made it easy. can americans trust the findings of a panel who began with a preconceived narrative and blackballed any contrary voices? in favor of her own hand-picked members blew the ability before it even started work. americans will find it easy to reject evidence that is too fragile to bear the scrutiny of fellow house members. on our democrats line, bob in

jacksonville. caller: thank you. i appreciate you taking the call. i have a couple of comments and a question, and i will make it real brief. my comments are, i was once a republican. i am getting up in years, i am 87 years old. but i must be really smart because i can see through trump way back there. for that reason, i don't vote republican anymore. i am losing my train of thought. my question is this. where is the line -- and this is

for republicans. where is the line between attacking a police officer and supporting them? i think some of them are really confused. i have a son who is a police officer. i also have a gun collection. i don't have any ar-15s. but that is about it. thank you for taking my call. host: glad to hear from you. on the independent line, edward in keyport, new jersey. what did you think about the hearings last night? caller: i think the committee's job is important. if anything, i would like them to look at the pbs special, any of the others about the rise of fascism. it is the little people behind the scenes that make these things happen. that is why it is really great to see bill barr, other people in the white house staff telling

him that this is all nonsense. i really have to say my hat is off to cheney. i feel like i could be struck by lightning for saying that but she came on very credible. i cannot really believe that she is some raving partisan hack. i really believe her, the things that she is stating. that is it. everyone just keep your eyes open, look at what they have to offer. i don't see that the right has any real counter to the fact. radio, tv, these guys have all been playing the stuff up even before the election happened, and to this day, they talk about wanting their domestic purse to happen. what is gas going to cost, groceries? and then we fall into a third

world insurgency. just think about that. it takes the strength of a people to stand up and hold the line. like the capitol police officer holding the line against those selfish weirdos. anyways. host: referring to sum up testimony last night by u.s. capitol police officers, caroline edwards, one of several witnesses last night. here is some of what officer edwards had to say last night. [video clip] >> officer edwards, i want to start by asking, if you could tell us why you believe it is important for you to share your story this evening with the committee and the american public. please, your microphone. >> [laughter] thank you, mr. chairman. i really appreciate it. thank you to the committee for

having me here to testify. i was called a lot of things on january 6, 2021, and the days thereafter. i was called nancy pelosi's dog, called incompetent, hero, and a villain. i was called a traitor to my country, my oath, and my constitution. in actuality, i was none of those things. i was an american, standing face to face with other americans, asking myself how many times, many many times, how we had gotten here. i have been called names before but never had my patriotism or duty had been called into ashton -- question. icon the who got up every day, no matter how late i got in the night before, to put on my uniform and protect america's symbol of democracy. i, who spent countless hours in

the baking sun in the freezing snow, to make sure that america's elected officials could do their job. i, whose literal blood, sweat, and tears were shed that day defending the buildings that i spent was holidays and weekends working in. i am the proud granddaughter of a marine that fought in the battle in the korean war. i think of my papa often in these days, how he was so young and thrown into a battle he never saw coming, and answered the call at a great personal cost. how he lived the rest of his days with bullet and shrapnel in his legs, but never once complained about his sacrifice. i would like to think that he would be proud of me. proud of his granddaughter that stood her ground that day and continued fighting even though she was wounded, like he did, many years ago. i am my grandfather's

granddaughter, proud to put on the uniform and serve my country. they dared to question my owner. they dared to question my loyalty. and a day or two? duty. i am a proud american and i will gladly sacrifice everything to make sure the america my grandfather defended is here for many years to come. host: some of the comments on social media on last night's hearing. the tweet here says, without a worthless self-dealing wrote of a president facilitating, encouraging, and reveling in the violence, they would be no more need for additional security than any previous electoral certification count. cheney light, the court did not see mounds of evidence because the wrong jurisdiction. the evidence was sent to congress for debate pelosi and schumer shut down debate in true communist dictator style. bud in west virginia on the republican line. good morning.

caller: good morning, c-span. first thing that people ought to check out is research the duties of the capitol police. if someone forces their way into the capitol, their first line of duty is to use deadly force. there is a lot going on up there. security, where was it? donald trump ordered 20,000 troops, and no one, and the security of the capitol authorized it to be used when needed. so, nancy pelosi is more at fault than anyone on the trump side. this is a kangaroo court.

that is all i can see. i watched a little bit last night. it was just out to get trump. host: what was hard to watch for you? caller: ms. cheney. i just -- she kept saying that trumbo ordered it or whatever. she don't have no facts. host: all right, we will go to jill on the democrat line. woodward, iowa. caller: well, i can see why they don't want to believe it. it is painful for trump people to watch because it is hard to admit that you have been fooled by a con man. it is clear that is what happened. i do want all channels.

as a teacher, i have always told people that your information diet should be like your food diet, it should be wide and varied. i know that is the big thing they are talking about now. trump dude order the national guard. during the riot, did he ever say where is that national guard i ordered? or why are they not following my orders? or have any of them since complained about fact? no, because he did not do it. he could have gotten on the phone. he sat there, he just sat there and enjoyed it because it is what he wanted to happen. when he couldn't talk pence into it, his only chance of staying in office -- which was his only goal -- was to just let the mob maybe be able to disrupt. if those people had not grabbed

those ballot boxes when they left and pence evacuated, if those had fallen into the hands of the crowd, we would really be in a world of hurt. i think all congresspeople who do respect their oath to the constitution. it is really clear right now whether people are respecting that oath or not. host: you mentioned being a teacher. are you currently a teacher? caller: i resigned a year ago in june. i cannot tell you, there was never a better time to get out of education because everyone thinks they are an expert in education. host: mclean, virginia. on the democrats line, david. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i want to make two points. you said c-span wants to hear from people who watched the hearing. if that is the case, you should not accept any callers from fox

viewers. they were not showing the hearings last night. if you watch this morning, which i did, it is filled about stories of happy summer barbecues and country music, nothing with the hearing. the second point i want to make. there is zero chance the republican base will be persuaded by anything that was said last night because these are the same people who refused to believe 97% of the world's scientists when they said climate change is real. they refused to believe doctors when they talk about covid. you can say anything you want but you will never set aside these people. perhaps the reason for that is because the red states are the least educated states in the country with the worst educational systems. look it up, it is a fact. host: laid out by the committee last night by bennie thompson and liz cheney, the direction where the committee is heading seems pretty clear. it is reflected in a couple of headlines. from the associated press,

capitol ryan blames trump for 1/6 attempted coup. the headline from the washington post. pretty much the same headline. "panel pins blame on trump." showing some of the work done by the committee. advisors told him claims coming on, new videos of nonsense opening up the hearings last night. they write in the washington post, after conducting 1000 interviews and gathering 140,000 documents over the course of the year, the committee launched its presentation with a blunt reminder of the vicious violence unleashed by the mob that day. setting the tone was a chilling compilation of never before seen video of a mob surging into the building, including new security footage of aides scattering in fear of the office of kevin mccarthy, a trump ally. norman, illinois.

next up is steve. welcome. caller: thank you. i just want to say, washington journal ought to tell both sides of the story. let's get nancy pelosi on the hill and ask her why she turned them down. she had to sign off on those national guardsmen. once trump authorized it, it was in nancy pelosi's court. she turned it down. after everything started, she put the pressure on the defense department to the fences up, national guard in there. i think nancy pelosi is the biggest one who blew it. washington journal ought to do some fair reporting. go both sides. i know you cannot because you are in washington. but you need to report both sides. once trump authorized that, that

is all he had to do, and that it is nancy hello see's ball. host: it sounded like last night, some of the testimony they played from general mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, indeed, the former vice president, mike pence, was pleading with mike millie -- mark milley, to do something. according to the reaction from the white house, it was pretty much silence on that. caller: well, they have four days to do this. they had intelligence to do that. milley knew that. he is just a biden hack. host: general milley? you think -- caller: biden will tell him to jump off the bridge, and he will do it. host: let's hear from joann.

sleepy i, minnesota. caller: good morning, bill. it has been a long time. can you hear me? hello? host: you are on the air. go ahead with your comment. caller: can you hear me now? host: just make sure that you mute the volume on your television. go ahead with your comment. caller: it has been a long time since i called in. i always like to hear all sides of the issue. so i watched the whole hearing last night. i was disappointed. i thought that we would maybe get some truth and facts.

i was disappointed in the fact that this kind of seems to be a production. i was disappointed in the fact that they did not start on january 2 when trump have requested national guard and the whole chain and the capitol thing. if they had been prepared, like had been requested, this would not have happened. i guess i'm disappointed that the people on the committee that pelosi took off two of the republicans that had been appointed. why did she do that? why is she off limits having questions asked? they said that trump incited this. that should have never happened. it was tragic that it did. but you have a couple of military groups, militant groups, the proud boys and the oath keepers, that did have this

planned ahead of time. that is not the fault of all the republican people. many of the people that were there were there for a peaceful rally that dude turn into a riot. i don't feel the majority of the people that were there were there for an insurrection or for a coup. they bypassed trump's speech. when he said march peaceably to the capital, to let your voices be heard, that is not responsible for how people interpret that. i was just disappointed in the way that it was put together, that they hired a producer. we should be looking for facts. this should have never happened again. host: glad that you got a chance to watch it. a reminder, we at c-span covered it, available now the c-span now mobile app.

joining us throughout the morning, our colleague john mcardle. >> you mentioned the 140,000 documents, thousands of interviews that this committee focused on. i want to focus on 840 defendants that were charged with various crimes and misdemeanors as a result of the riot on capitol hill on january 6. some of the numbers, according to wusa9. some of these folks facing multiple charges. these numbers don't exactly add up to 840. 735 have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. 280 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, imputing a and official proceeding. 255 defendants charged with assaulting, resisting arrest, imputing officers or employees, including 90 who have been charged with using a deadly

weapon or causing serious damage or harm to an officer. 305 individuals have pled guilty to a variety of charges. 206 pleading guilty to misdemeanors. 59 pleading guilty to felonies. six individuals have been found guilty at trial, including five found guilty by juries of felony charges. some of the numbers from wusa9. i want to point viewers to scott mcfarland, cbs news congressional reporter. he perhaps might be the best in the business right now when it comes to tracking these cases, reporting on the january 6 trials and convictions, those who are still in jail. a former local d.c. reporter, now with cvs national news. he tweets last night that liz cheney mentioned the justice department criminal investigations notes more than 820 defendants.

he says the growing number of the accused conspiracy and seditious conspiracy. he writes yesterday, the proud boys are clearly a focus of the committee, and just this week, the justice department up to the criminal charges against the proud boys defendants to seditious conspiracy. some not guilty pleas by them entered yesterday. but that seditious conspiracy, a next level charged to keep an eye on here in the coming weeks and months as these cases continue to move forward. one other story that came out about those being charged in the january 6 the riot. reuters has the story, but you may have seen it in your local paper. the fbi arrested republican ryan kelley, candidate for michigan governor yesterday, for misdemeanor charges in connection with the january 6 riot. and fbi agent said that he was captured on video standing in a crowd of people assaulting and pushing past law enforcement

officers. kelley is one of five people seeking the republican candidacy to face off against gretchen whitmer. back to scott mcfarland and his tweets on the topic. he also picks up on this story and tweets out this photo, showing mr. kelley. he is in the red box along with the tweet, noting his arrest yesterday, showing some of the movements where the evidence shows him on capitol hill. one more from scott mcfarland. his wrap up, as someone who has followed this from beginning to end, where we go after this first night. for me, the big question is what line is drawn and how do we see the proud boys and the people in power, the white house, on january 6? will the committee explain why gop members of congress would be

seeking pardons from the president before he left office on january 20, 2021? the other question is what will former white house staffers say about trump's actions during the riot? we expect those former white house staffers, perhaps six of them, to be witnesses either in person or via tape testimony in the last hearing expected at the end of the month by the january 6 committee. host: in a couple of minutes, we will have you come back and run through the timeline of the hearings that we expect, as laid out by liz cheney last night. we will get you back in a few minutes with new folks joining the program through the morning. let's go to our democrats line in georgia. go ahead.

caller: i cannot see how people can side with those terrorists. the police shooting a teenager 16 times. you call them all kinds of names. now you see with your own eyes these people are terrorists. you guys are conveniently decent. republicans, i don't know what to say about you guys. america needs to wake up. we need love, not hate. host: kelly is on the republican line. ginsburg, pennsylvania. caller: can you hear me? i just wanted to say that on january 6 i watched trump's speech, and he was one hour late. i also watch the c-span to watch the house and senate submit their votes. during the first contesting of

the fort arizona, that was when the capital breach was recorded. trump was still speaking. he had a half an hour left. why would his supporters leave early? if they were true trump supporters, they would have stayed too, you know, watch him speak. also, liz cheney continues to ask why they did not stop them right at the capitol. but without any evidence that trump was the leader, this is without evidence. i just feel like liz cheney and the media are presuming guilt before there is an actual conviction. i think that is wrong. host: we have any number of colors mention, criticizing nancy pelosi and the capital security, the same sentiment

expressed by jodi highs and in this opinion piece. 10,000 reasons to those he is to blame for security failures on january 6. the congressman writes, there are 10,000 reasons why nancy pelosi is singularly negligent in the security failures on anyway six. instead of addressing her willful negligence, she is pointing the finger at the person whose help she ignored, donald trump. the protectable hallmark of a left-wing cover-up is to find a way to scapegoat the 45th president of the united states for their own abysmal missteps and errors. the democrats twist of reality is truly something to behold. in florida, on the independent line, kenny. caller: good morning, c-span. i have been listening to c-span for years now. being a retired military person,

when i watched the hearings, ever since january 6, when it comes to listening to all of these people who support, 90% are republicans who call in, they see nothing wrong with it. 90% of democrats call in, they see everything wrong with it. the bottom line of why i don't understand why c-span, whenever people call in for support or not, these hard-core trump people, wanted this was obama or any other democrat who had summoned this and it was black lives matter or muslims or illegal immigrants or this so-called antifa? what if it was those people that stormed the capitol? what would all of these trump supporters be saying then? when black lives matter was protesting blocks away from the

capital, they had the national guard surrounding the capitol. but if this was anybody else other than white people, it would still be policing up or cleaning up the blood and bodies that would be late in the streets right now. please, ask them what if. turn it around. what if it was somebody other than trump and white folks that did this insurrection? what with these people be saying? i really appreciate c-span. you have a good day. host: on the independent line, philadelphia. deborah, go ahead. caller: can you hear me? host: sure can. go ahead. caller: i need to work backwards. i am almost 72 years old. i have been watching politics for a long time. can you hear me? host: we are listening. caller: ok.

i am 71 years old and i have been watching politics for a long, long time. i have also taught in the system. i need to say one thing. first, education, the federal and state law for all must be revisited. so people can understand why our democracy and our constitution was in danger on january 6. number two, january 6 would not have happened if trump would have followed the constitution. you lost. and it over. shake hands, come back in four years, and try again. but don't try to take over the country. if this was any other country, trump and all of his followers

would have been lined up against a wall and shot. we would not be waiting a whole year to see what happened. evidence was there. the writers -- rioters were there. they stormed the capitol. they did wrong. that is why we are a democratic country. we have to put people on trial, we have to gather the evidence. point the blame for the people that showed up on january 6, point the blame at who encouraged them to come. we knew it was going to go down the way it did. i believe that the military, everybody would have been around to help the capitol police. host: thanks for that. spending the entire program hearing form you and your reaction and thoughts from seeing the first of what we

expect to be a half-dozen public hearings on the attack on the u.s. capitol. our lines are open. (202) 748-8001 four republicans. (202) 748-8000 four democrats. independents and others, (202) 748-8002. john mcardle, the comments from liz cheney help to bring in the focus the direction the committee is heading. tell us about that. >> you mentioned happy doesn't hearings, it could be seven, at least that is the way that it seems when she laid out her remarks for the road ahead. last night focused on the opening statements from the cochairs of the january 6 committee, focus on the timeline of the capitol riots. focus on the capitol police finding themselves battling those rioters, trying to hold the line. the next hearing is monday, 10:00 eastern. that second hearing will focus

on evidence that they say shows former president trump new that he lost the 2020 election and that he engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to convince huge portions of the u.s. population that fraud had stolen the election from him. that is what they will focus on. next week, the third hearing, liz cheney says that hearing will focus on william barr's and the justice department. president trump's plan to replace bill barr so that the justice department would spread his false stolen election claims. look for jeffrey rosen, former acting attorney general, as a witness at that hearing. we are hearing he will testify, likely where his testimony would come in. the fourth hearing would focus on former vice president mike pence. liz cheney says efforts to pressure vice president mike

pence to count all looked oral votes on january 6. look for mark short, former mike pence chief of staff, to testify then. liz cheney singh the fifth hearing will focus on pressure that former president donald trump try to apply to state legislatures and state election officials when it came to finding votes or going back on vote counts. look for georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger to testify during that hearing. the final two hearings, could be combined into one, not exactly clear, but liz cheney singh the final hearings will focus on how former president trump summoned the mob and directed them to illegally march on the u.s. capitol. she says the final hearing would be a moment by moment account of the hours long attack. focusing on the actions, what was happening inside the white house that day.

the next time that we will see this unfold is monday, 10:00 eastern. you can watch year, live on c-span, gavel-to-gavel. also airing on c-span.org, and you can also watch on the free c-span video app. host: this morning we are looking at social media. aubrey says, the more compelling question that answers itself is why did donald trump incite the stop the steal crowd to attack the capitol? the answer to the security question is those responsible. the sergeant at arms would not allow it. will says people were upset their election was stolen. he also says the presumption of maga innocence is the call of the day. the maga rally was not the origin of the u.s. capitol break in. rick says, the truth hurts. i'm listening to these people. they cannot take the truth.

they cannot take the truth that there is a white nationalist movement in the republican party trying to destroy america. that is the truth. tom in baltimore. go ahead. caller: i wish we would have had a committee much like the 9/11 committee, but the select committee that we have now has been satisfactory for me. i cried watching some of those videos, people with the american flag attached to polls, breaking windows at the capitol, attacking our policeman. i am a service-connected veteran from the vietnam era. i defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. i still feel strongly that way, feeling that way again, defending my constitution and country. i think that they should look at themselves in the mirror. if they think they are true

americans, they need to get the constitution and read for themselves. host: new york city. linda on the democrats line. hi there. caller: how are you? my name is linda. can we hear you? host: go ahead. you are on the air. caller: i only live several blocks from donald trump. all his life, he has always been a horrible person. you know that he cannot get a loan in this country because ceos money to someone -- because he owes money to someone. he has done this all his life. he bullies people, he does not pay his workers. they thought that they were going to change him in washington, but he bullies his

way, and he did everything. he thought that he could bully the vice president to go on january 6 and do what he wanted, instead of the rule of law. pence stood up for the country. that is why he took his oath. that is why trump knew the day before, and they even had the secret service watching out for pence because his life was in danger. i wonder who that was from? it was not trump watching over him, because he wanted him out of the way. even though he had his children with him, he didn't give two bits about it. his daughter even went on tv last night and said, well, i agree with barr that her father did not win. everybody agrees, except donald

will lie and do anything. i read a lot of things, all things. i believe that we have a lot in common, republicans and democrats. we love our country. i remember as a young girl, i went to the capitol on a school trip and my chest swelled with pride. i am sure many people feel that way. when i saw it being ripped apart, terrible things happening, and if it was people of color doing that, you bet trump would have picked up the phone. but it had to be mike pence to call the general and say, please, we need people here. trump did not pick up the phone at all. host: ok, linda. we will go to gary in brooklyn. republican line. caller: i am calling about all

of this nonsense that people talk about. all these people that you watched last night, it was all lies. that woman should resign. nobody brings up schumer, pelosi, all of the stupid things that these people are saying is not true, it is all lies. to me, i would put schumer and pelosi in there and say where are the 20,000 army people they are supposed to put around the white house? they avoid it and say, forget about it. he figures, let him get in trouble. every day, from the first day the sky became president, the media, nbc, cnn, everyone is on top of this guy. don't let him do his job. let the man do his work. nobody said anything about this cloud. nobody says nothing about the vice president.

he goes to the late-night comedy shows. he is like -- what are you doing there instead of taking care of the country? that don't make sense. these people are nothing but a clown. host: gary in brooklyn referring to joe biden's appearance on the jimmy kimmel show. most of the cable networks did carry last nights hearings, broadcast networks, as well. fox news did not cover the hearing. they did have reaction, though, from members from congress after. here is steve scalise. [video clip] >> we all know what happened. whatever her reason was. i think most americans are just sick and tired of the politicization that you are seeing by the democrats to try and change the subject. they know what the american people are angry about. american people are angry about what joe biden and nancy pelosi

and what their far left socialist agenda have done to people. they wish congress was addressing those things, not this hollywood production, not an attempt to take away your guns. over and over again, they think they can blame putin or anybody else. the american people are smarter than that. they have figured out who is the cause of the pain of their families. they want to change the direction. speaker gingrich just talked about it. what is coming in november is something that they are scared. they still want to shut down cities. they still want to defund the police, do the things that the american people are tired of. the american people will have the final say on november 8. host: from last night on fox news. spending the program this morning asking you about your reaction to the primetime hearing. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats.

independent and others, (202) 748-8002. some of the washington paper reaction. the washington times, primetime the capitol riot. democrats eager to convince the public of donald trump's guilt and provoking the january 6, 2021 attack on the u.s. capitol. laying out the case that he tried to overturn the presidential election, resulting in the violent attack. it was the first of several primetime hearings conducted by a committee created last year by house speaker nancy pelosi, california democrat, to investigate the cause of the capitol attack. republicans have denounced inquiry as a political witchhunt. chuck from clinton, south carolina. go ahead. caller: i am watching this thing. people from washington, d.c. have no idea how people out here in the real world think. let me tell you. this thing has been going on

since trump first ran. 2016 they started this. it hillary clinton falsified documents, it resulted in a three-year investigation. it cost everyone $30 million to go through the process, did not find anything. then they immediately come out and they do this thing where they falsified documents through the fisa courts, the fbi is in on it. the united states, we don't find somebody and then try to find a crime. they have been doing that to trump for six years now, and it is still going on. you wonder why conservatives don't trust people like you? it is because they have convinced half of the country not to believe but one story. host: joe is in maine,

independent line. what are your thoughts? caller: thank you. i have to respond to south carolina. trump lied to everybody, and he has repeatedly lied. he has lied about his taxes. i will show you my taxes. i will do all of that. he is a liar. now, here we go again. donald trump comes out and says that he won the election. bill barr tells him in december, less than one month from the end of the election, that it is bs. what he said last night. so what does donald trump do? he gets rid of bill barr. there is the whole list, i wish you would put them up, the seven things that trump said he would do with all of the fake collectors and all of the other stuff. i don't want to go through that.

but i would ask you to put up mo brooks, when he came on c-span, no one knew that he was in full body armor at his speech. he is the guy who said we are going to take back -- what was it? i don't know, you can get it. he didn't kick anybody's butt. where did he go, the coward? he came on c-span, lying his butt about that. they started coming up with all of this crap. the republican party, they are liars, that is all they have. this stuff with russia. don't you remember? trump filled the white house. did you forget about that, south carolina, did you ignore that? host: thanks for the call. more of them ahead.

let's check in with our colleague john mcardle. >> just want to take a minute to focus on one of the two witnesses from last night's hearing. nick quested. this is in the guardian newspaper, a documentary filmmaker, emmy award-winning british documentary filmmaker who founded the indie film company goldcrest. he was embedded with the proud boys, that far right extremist group in the weeks before donald trump lost the election, about a project on the division in america. the guardian asked him why he chose the proud boys to embed with. he says we chose the proud boys because they were so vociferous in rallies and protests around america and emerged as a political voice, particularly in the summer of 2020. we felt they were a group worth following at the time. as viewers her last night who watch the hearing, nick quested followed the proud boys both on

january 5 and sixth, followed them around washington, d.c. interestingly, one thing that came out of the hearing, which cnn notes, the video of a meeting in the parking garage between henrique tarrio, the former leader of the proud boys and steward rhodes, the leader of the oath keepers, caught on videotape by nick quested during the day, later that evening on january 5 as he was following the proud boys around town. i want to show a clip from the committee video that they put together that shows parts of nick quested's documentary that shows that meeting in the parking garage. >> in footage contained -- obtained by the committee, we learned on the night of january 5, henrique terrio and steward rhodes met in a parking garage in washington, d.c.. >> there is mitchell respect their. the fight is the same fight. that is what is important.

>> bill, i bring that up because, as you know, that parking garage they talked about is the parking garage two floors underneath my feet right now, the parking garage of this building. 400 north capitol street. that is the building where c-span is, fox news is in d.c., also nbc news. that parking garage right under our feet, where we parked to come into work. we can show viewers from the roof of our building. down into the lower senate park, up into the upper senate park with the fountain and then beyond to the capitol. that is where they were when they met in the parking garage that night on january 5. host: nick quested said it was the hall of legends, but -- >> the hall of states. host: deep throat moment for our

parking garage. interesting testimony last night. rob is from kansas on the democrat line. go ahead. caller: good morning, everybody. i did watch the entire hearing, and i recorded it in case i missed something. of course, there is nothing new that i learned. i think what i knew already was pretty much affirmed. i wanted to say two things. when the sitting president loses an election, they should immediately have that person removed from the oval office and have the new person come in, the person who won the election, and take over. if we ever have anybody like trump in the future, who is confused about the constitution, he will know that he needs to get out, he is no longer in charge. he is done.

i think this transition period may need to be removed in the future to save our democracy, the peaceful transfer of power. i think that trump is someone who does not understand the constitution. he was confused about what he needs to do. the last thing i want to say, if nixon had never been pardoned, trump is the product of a nixon pardon. if nixon had gone to jail, there would be no donald trump. host: cc is in milford, connecticut. caller: hi, how are you? first of all, i want to say all of these democrats need to wake up. can you hear me? thank you so much. i did not watch the show last night. i watched fox.

they get the other side of the story, the true side of the story that kevin mccarthy will put out there. the committee for january 6 is a coup. they are trying to keep trump off the ballot. he is the one who cleaned up the swap. he got rid of all of these people. they want to come back and they want to control us. what about blm? blm is nothing but a radical marxist group. it does not represent the black people. what about schumer when he threatened kavanaugh? what about all of these riots happening? why are they going after them? these people were never charged with insurrection. nancy pelosi's office is off limits to this committee? i wonder why because maybe she would let the guard know that they were planning on having the

national guard. she didn't want that because she wanted this to happen. host: the hearing is available on our website, www.c-span.org and the free c-span now mobile app. there are some highlights from yesterday's hearings. this is from the new york times.

it's mary in tarpon springs next on the independent line. caller: good morning, it's my first time and i don't trust politicians or politics because they create a lot of these problems. they don't fix problems, they create them it's intentional. i think it's important for people to continue to ask questions. i am very pragmatic and when things don't add up, i do my own research and i don't listen to the media because the media is

just propaganda. they are not even true journalists anymore. it's disheartening to me to see what has happened in our media. they just had political pundits pushing one narrative or another. it's despicable. the questions people should be asking are like the woman from connecticut stuff why isn't there a hearing on black lives matter andantifa. these are fascist groups and they have taken tens of aliens and hundreds of millions of dollars from people and they are utilizing it not for the benefit of the black community. they are utilizing it for their own personal and if it but nothing is being done. why isn't ray epstein being investigated? he is one of the main instigators of the january 6 event and was telling people we are going to charge the capital and people were saying no, you are a fed trying to stir up the crowd.

this is a tactic the government has used in other countries for decades where they send in professional instigators to disturb the road and people need to research and read and do their own investigation on this stuff. it's despicable to me how they have gone after trump for the ukraine incident when we have video of joe biden threatening to withhold -- host: on instigators, you said someone was an there but what about the role of the proud boys and the video they showed last night? they were not professional but an organized group. caller: they met in a garage. host: i'm talking about the evidence shown last night about the movement of the proud boys in a coordinated move in attacking the capital. did you watch that last night? caller: i did not watch it because it's propaganda.

the democratic party uses that. host: dave in illinois on the independent line, go ahead step caller: thanks. i wanted to check with you on liz cheney. she knew donald trump but spread false info. he corruptly planned to replace his attorney general. he pressured mike pence to lie, he corruptly pressured state legislators. six, he summoned a violent mob. seven, he failed to take action to stop the violence. i just wanted to check with you because did i correctly go through the seven points? host: i think you've captured

some of what she had to say. caller: he knew he lost but spread lies and corruptly planned to replace his attorney general and pressured mike pence to lie, pressured state legislators, summoned a violent mob, failed to take action to stop violence. come on, that's gotta be criminal. host: do the republican line next and rick in dandridge, tennessee, good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i just wanted to make statement. ever since trump came onto the scene in 2015, the democrats have been after him. it started with the russian hoax , turned out to be total lies. mainstream media was all over it. then they had the molar investigation.

the people that hated trump could not find anything. then they had the first impeachment. it turned out to be baseless. than they had the kavanaugh hearings to stop kavanaugh from being the supreme court judge and accused of being a racist, total lies. then they had the second impeachment, baseless. that there was hunter biden's laptop, russian disinformation, total lies. each one of these instances, the mainstream media was totally behind them. and each time, they were totally wrong. january 6 hearings, this is looking like a trend to me. i'm saying the january 6 hearing is just number seven on the list. thanks for taking my call. host: on or democrats line from tennessee, go ahead. caller: yes, i have a few

comments. first of all, i don't know who has been watching all these years since trump began but from the very beginning, he indicated he want -- he wanted to from the beginning. when he spoke to the chinese authority, he told the chinese president he was going to want a lifetime presidency. he mentioned later that if he was voted out, the motorcycle gangs of the tough guys would protect him. somebody asked him directly, will you release power and he said maybe. from the beginning, he has been angling toward power. is anybody paying attention to that? i've heard that russia was a hoax and mueller did not find it

was a hoax. he put his findings in the hands of bill barr and he did not let it come out. he said the people in charlottesville, there were good people on both sides. you cannot be on both sides of democracy. again, there are a lot of people out there but my father fought in world war ii and the proud boys are the same kind of nazis he had to fight against because they were doing the same sort of thing host: to people. thanks for your call this morning. this is the washington examiner headline.

[video clip] >> officer edwards, can you describe the crowd as you and your fellow officers stood at the peace circle? >> yes, there were about about five of us on that line. there was our bike rack and at

the bottom of the pennsylvania avenue walkway, there is another bike rack. the crowd had kind of gathered there. it was the crowd led by joseph biggs. they were mostly in civilian clothes. there were some who had military fatigues on and we could see people with bullet-proof vest on, things like that. they didn't seem extremely cohesive but they gathered in their outfits and had gathered together and joseph biggs started, he had a megaphone and he started talking about first it was things relating to congress and then the tables

started turning once what is now the arizona group, the crowd with our in chats, they came up chanting f-u-c_k antifa and once they joined that group, joseph biggs'rhetoric turns to the capitol police. he started asking us questions like you didn't miss a paycheck during the pandemic, mentioning stuff about our pay scale was mentioned. and they started turning the tables on us. i can conservatively say probably hundreds of civil

disturbance events, i know when i'm being turned into a villain and that's when i turned to my sergeant and i stated the understatement of the century. i said sarge, i think we are going to need a few more people down here. host: eric coley joins us with a bit more on the testimony of the u.s. capitol police officer caroline edwards. guest: a number of new sites took a focus on caroline edwards after the interview yesterday. the washington post noted she joined capitol police in 2017

after beginning in public relations. she graduated from the university of georgia and was one of the first officers to come forward and criticize its department for its lack of preparation. she told usa today that officers in her division had asked commanders about handling armed writers on january 5, the day before the attack and was told there is no plan. she told the newspaper she was right trained but this was a common problem for capitol police officers. another thing she talked about in her testimony yesterday was officer brian sick neck and seeing him after he was sprayed with a chemical and she said he was pale white and was sprayed with teargas and usually faces turned red and she knew something was wrong with him step he would suffer two strokes

in the hours after the attack. at yesterday's hearing, there was a longtime partner of capitol police officer brian sick nick. you can see her in the picture from the wall street journal on their website. her name is sandra garza comforted by the capitol police sergeant who is a well-known figure since the attack was step there is about brian sicknick and his death. back last year, the district of columbia chief medical officer found that brian sicknick suffered two strokes eight hours after being sprayed with that irritant during the riot. they said he died of natural causes but that -- but what transpired that they played a role in his death.

if you other tweets about officer sicknick from yesterday. this was from congressman john bier, the democrat from the other side of the potomac river. this is in the alexandria area virginia and he said officer sicknick was my constituent and i spoke with his family and they will tell you if not for his defense of the capital in january 6, he would still be with us and they are right. one more photo to show you, this from mortman. this showing liz cheney with the mother of officer brian sicknick going over to talk to her after the hearing. i want to come back to the fact check.com article to talk about some of the other casualties and the results in the capital police department. they note that the first capitol

police officer committed suicide after the riots and had been guarding the capital for 15 years and was on duty at the capital on january 6 and took his life three days after. several days later, d.c. police officer jeffrey smith, 35 years old was injured in the riot also committed suicide and some six months after the attack on generous 6, 2 of metropolitan police department officers responded to the capital on generally six also committed suicide. some of the casualties there among the capitol police and the mpd, the metropolitan police department from that day. host: thank you, we will get back to her calls in a moment. here are a couple of comments on twitter.

let's hear from carl on the democrats line in alabama. caller: good morning, c-span.

i would like to say that the republicans and their supporters remain in denial. they were in denial then and they are denial now. they are deplorable and despicable so hillary clinton's description was right. regardless to how much evidence -- presented to the contrary, they are not going to see it any other way. the republicans don't believe in a lot will stop they don't believe covid was a problem and they don't believe in the vaccination and they don't believe in police reform, they don't believe in climate change, they don't believe in race

issues but there's three things they do believe. they believe there is a problem at the border, they believe that roe v. wade should be overturned and most certainly, they believe that donald trump won the election. host: we will let you go there. the tear from susan in seattle, washington, republican line. caller: hi there, finally. last night, there is no perry mason moment for me. why did nancy pelosi secure the capital? she always said that capital is the people's house. they had intelligence before the

january 6 and they knew that they were coming, these people, they feel their vote was stolen from them. how come she did not do that? nancy pelosi is a vicious woman. i'm sorry to say that. that's why her bishop doesn't want her to have holy communion. she was vicious. she showed her viciousness at the speech of president trump on the state of the union when she tore up the paper for all the world to see. she is a vicious woman. she knows because she didn't want president trump. he is a hated man is people are afraid that he is cleaning the swamp. he was impeached twice and they don't want him to run again

because his policy of working, look -- look it's happening to our country. i love this country and now look at what's happening. i called the democrats demon rats because lighting is no virtue for them. host: royalton, minnesota, independent line, good morning. caller: good morning. lots of questions out of that but in a nutshell, what puzzles me is down in texas, the school shooting, that police officer waited an hour before he reacted . and he gets charged i think. and the ex-president, it took

him three hours to enter -- to intervene something in his name step i'm just curious. thank you. host: let's hear from newark, ohio, thomas on the republican line -- independent line. caller: hey, thanks for taking my call. i will finally let greta know the evidence of voter fraud. we had 542 sworn affidavits republican poll workers in six different states that witnessed actual voter fraud and were not allowed to watch the democratic vote counting which violates election law. these brave americans under penalty of law were waving red flags of voter fraud. barr had the authority to send u.s. marshals to impound those votes in russian to be examined

by an impartial group that would determine if it was fraudulent ballots. but he was threatened with impeachment if he investigated. he did not do his job. he should be charged with dereliction of duties and he should be brought before congress this january and publicly shamed along with christopher wray who claimed there was no evidence of voter fraud. 542 affidavits come it looks like evidence to all reasonable americans. thank you. host: let's check in with john mcardle after the first public hearing on the select committee. host: new information for you within the past half hour or so about that monday hearing, the second hearing taking place at 10:00 a.m. monday. a series of tweets from news nation's kelly myers.

the news nation political editor just revealed this morning on news nation that he was called to testify in is going to do so on monday. he is a former fox news editor who was called out -- who has called out former colleague saying they created the space that led to the attack will step a few more tweets saying sti rewalt was an editor on fox news but was let go in 2021 and his team correctly called arizona for joe biden early on election night back in november, 2024. stirewalt has previously discussed text that fox news hosts sent and in those messages, they urged the trump chief of staff to call on that than president to do more to stop the violence. she said that could be what he's being called in for and what he

could testify for on monday. it's a focus on the post 2020 election claims by the president monday. that will be the second hearing and we now know at least one of the witnesses there. if you want to know more about chris stirewaly you can go to www.c-span.org and he has appeared several times on this network will step they are all available at our website at www.c-span.org as you prepare for the next one of these hearings. host: i appreciate that and a couple of comments on twitter

let's hear from anagen -- angela in maryland on her democrats line. caller: first of all, to the below sea not wanting the national guard there, trump did not need her permission to put the national guard anywhere in d.c. like the governor's most states, they can send the national guard out whenever they want. they do not need nancy pelosi's permission. when the right started, he did not need her permission to call. this was not her responsibility. he did call them up in the black had their rally that summer before the election. he put the national guard out

there then. i guess nancy pelosi approve that one, huh? i don't think so. these people claim to love the constitution. there was no evidence that the president one and came up with a seven point plan to rip up the constitution and keep themselves as a fascist, authoritarian dictator with help from some congresspeople and one gentleman at doj. we fought a world war over fascism step what happened to the country after fascism? terminally, italy spain -- germany, italy, spain, violence and people killed themselves in the streets and the u.s. has the world currency. this will happen again with these radical right-wingers. we will go through civil war and the dollar will be worthless.

you won't have a penny to your name or a car to drive in america. wake up, thank you. host: from arizona, republicans line. caller: good morning, i have a totally different spin on these hearings. i think they are actually fantastic. i cannot wait for monday for the next one. i have been waiting since trump out of our white house for some kind of accountability for all of the things he has done from the very first thing when he went into the white house. i have waited all this time, every person i know has been on bended knees waiting for some kind of accountability because we have never allowed anyone in our white house to do the damage this fellow has done during his time. we have all been holding her breath, figuring the minute he walked out here we are.

we finally have one hearing. i can't wait for the others read others. host: we will run down the list of the next few weeks. wendell in new york on the republican line. it go ahead. caller: thank you for having us to discuss this. i want to make something clear. there is no need for allegiance to any single individual. the role of the president as an employee. i will tell you now, over the last several years our country is more divided than it has ever been. i don't understand why people are so holding onto the fact that president trump is a god to

them. this is crazy. i think we need to take a step back, that a news network decided to ignore them and go in a different direction is a sign of there being a problem we need to address. thank you for your time. i hope we can figure the separate -- this out. host: the gentleman the just spoke said what i wanted to also say. i do want to tweak it a little bit. this was just the first of several hearings. there is no judgment yet. i don't think we should be judging until we get all of the facts. we can decide on what the hearings are about, they told us what they are looking for. let's look at the evidence and then make our judgments.

what about this, what about nancy? that's not the focus of these hearings. if she did something wrong, we have the vote. vote them out. there are other means. right now, let's focus on what's going on with this hearing. we are paying for it. there was something done wrong. we all saw it. what's going to be done about it, let's hear the facts. some of us don't want to believe the facts. you can bring a horse to water, you can't make him drink area we are picking on this man, i look at his character. we know he lies. he seems to wallow in that. we know he doesn't have any

integrity. he seems to wallow in that. he's not really a statesman. he's only attended one funeral of people who served this such as president bush. elijah cummings didn't want him at his funeral. the senator from arizona, his family didn't want him there. that should tell you something about his character. why are we looking for someone who has no character to lead us? until all the hearings are in it, make a judgment. host: on the judicial side of this, on the legal side of this, on the fallout from the attack, this is a washington post headline it. there were some comments and video, sedition charge.

on the independent line, we go to arkansas. caller: good morning. i'm glad that john is there. we can get a look in the next

couple of minutes and play it for everybody. that's real unusual. look this up and play it in a few minutes. representative gosar and jordan, the morning of january 6, they are in the process of starting the hearing of the review of these three close state elections. trump didn't want to interrupt any of that. only the democrats wanted to stop the recount. replay those few minutes. when representative gosar was in the process of his presentation, that's when the riot was allowed to come into the capital to stop this. that's the point of january 6,

they wanted to stop that reit count. if you were to ask anybody on this program what was the difference in the vote when trump was reelected, there were three states that were a virtual tie. only 30,000 votes, 10,000 votes in three different states was the difference. they were going to look at the added votes in because of the covid stuff. they were going to look at the votes in three states. host: who was going to look at that? caller: i just told you. they were in the process of reviewing that. representative gosar and representative jim jordan, they had started the hearing that morning. the democrats did not want that

hearing to take place. that's the point of january 6. they wanted to stop that hearing. the democrats wanted to stop that hearing. i have been watching morning to morning for the last few months thinking you guys are going to replay the hearing that was in process that morning. that was what they wanted to stop. i haven't seen it one single time. host: let's go to john mcardle. you talked about what we can expect at the hearing monday. how will the next couple of weeks proceed? host: we are expecting six or seven. we are not sure how many yet. let's go to monday. it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, according to liz cheney that will focus on post 2020 election

claims by president trump. she said in her statement that they will present evidence that he knew he lost the election. he was engaged in an effort to spread false and fraudulent information to convince the population that fraud had happened. that's what they will explore monday. we also found out within the past hour that former fox news political editor is expected to testify in that hearing. to the third hearing, it will focus on william barr and the justice department. liz cheney said that hearing will focus on president trump's plan to replace his attorney general for the justice department who would spread the stolen election claims.

you can look for the former acting attorney general as a likely witness who will appear at that hearing. the fourth hearing, it will focus specifically on the former vice president mike pence, focusing on efforts to put pressure on mike pence to refuse to count electoral votes. mark short, the former chief of staff for mike pence will testify at that hearing. the fifth hearing will focus on pressure on state legislators and officials when it comes to recounts and finding additional ballots. it is specifically focusing on georgia, calls on georgia election officials to find votes. look for the secretary of state to witness that hearing. the final hearings will focus on president trump's actions on january 6, his efforts to direct

the mob to march on the capital. the final hearing at the end of the month of june will be a moment by moment account of the hours from half dozen white house staff. that's the road ahead. it begins on monday at 10:00 eastern. you can watch it here on c-span. you can watch it on the free c-span now video app. host: a caller raised how much this was costing the american taxpayer. maybe you can track down some information on how much money -- the budget for the committee over the past year or so. host: i always appreciate you giving me homework assignments. diane in florida. good morning. caller: good morning.

the first and greatest commandment from god is thou shall have no other god before me. i am a jealous god. i don't understand why my republican colleagues are putting donald trump on some type of pedestal, as if he is a god. god does not like anyone coming before him. we need to take a step back and recognize that god is our god and he is the only man we should fear. that's all i wanted to say. host: trent on the independent line. caller: amen to the lady who doesn't want to make idols. i really appreciated the congressman saying the world is watching. i think we can give the intelligence community heart attack.

trump would meet with vladimir putin alone. america is not the ruling class elite. they are people who've been working hard to do their jobs and thought they could trust the people they were electing. i think they really see what's going on in the west that are than our best thinkers do. the future is a new law base around the world with the conveyor belt initiative that will bring up a biblical national populism, where you have cultures obeying the same laws of god. that will be the greatest move politically we've seen in our lights on. host: in the second hour of the

hearing, the second of two witnesses flat nice -- witnesses -- a documentary filmmaker, here he is responding to the comments of the chair. >> can you tell us how you found yourself in washington dc on january 6? >> good evening. thank you for the introduction. as stated in the winter of 2020, i was working on a documentary. i filmed several rallies in washington dc. i learned there would be a rally on the mall january 6. my three colleagues and i came down to document the rally. according to the permit, there would be a rally at the. we arrived at the mall and

observed crowd boys walking toward the capital. we filmed them. it mutely, i was separated from my colleagues. i document the crowd turned from protesters to writers to insurrectionist. i was surprised at the size of the group, the anger and profanity. for anyone who did not understand how violent it was, i saw it. i documented it. i experienced it. i saw aggressive chanting. i shared that footage with the authorities. i am here today pursuant to a subpoena. host: pennsylvania up, good morning. caller: -- host: sparta common -- sparta, new jersey. caller: good morning.

i wanted to make a general observation and encourage people to open their mind, especially those who spend too much time in silos listening to fox news and other alt right-wing. i hope some of them open their eyes. i think it was blatantly obvious that he orchestrated this whole thing. one of the key things that came out of the first hearing, i'm glad there are going to be six, i thought it was very interesting that the tweets from trump from december -- the secret meeting on december 18 and started organizing these military groups and others to come down there and disrupt the government proceedings.

the person on the megaphone when they were attacking the capital knew what trump wanted, including endangering the lives of his own vice president. if that doesn't wake up people, i don't know what else they need to hear. i would encourage them to watch the hearings and get their facts straight for wants and hopefully vote out these co-conspirators as well as preventing trump from ever holding office. it's blatantly obvious that trump is guilty of creating the insurrection and he should be charged. he should not evade responsibility for his crimes. i want to see what happens with the upcoming hearings where he asked to testify in new york for his bank fraud. he is caused so much problems in this country, including

endangering the macro c. if you have an autocrat like trump, life will go down the tubes. people who don't understand that should wake up. i wanted to commend mary from maryland, she made excellent points. i thank you for your time and hope you can continue to give people who don't get a chance to speak up often an opportunity to voice their concerns about what's happening in this country. there is corruption, especially among the elite to take too much money from dark money and hopefully we can end citizens united. the wealthy are doing extremely well and should share that and pay their fair taxes. host: we've got a little less than 45 minutes for people to do that. this is from twitter.

host: to answer your question, how much this cost, i found an article from the washington post from april. it has some projected numbers. this committee has already spent as of april 1 2.5 no you dollars. they are on pace to spend $9.3 million. by contrast, the select committee created in 2014 to investigate the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi spent less than that projection, $7.8

million. nearly all of that was on personnel costs. that is from the washington post. this headline from newsweek caught my attention this morning. the committee is battling gas prices and guns for u.s. attention. let me start and some of those financial issues that are taking up attention, including what we found out this morning that inflation accelerated further, eight point 6% from one year ago. that is according to the bureau of labor statistics. the article is from cnbc.

on gas prices, new records being set. the national average in the u.s. is a record high, surpassing five dollars per gallon for the first time ever. that is from gas buddy. those numbers are getting a lot of attention this morning from republicans did this is marsha blackburn on twitter.

host: back to calls. we will hear from greg in ohio. caller: deflect, deny, repeat. this is being done over and over and over again. there is concrete evidence you cannot deny any male, video, a testimony. that is concrete evidence of what is taking place. some people have already made your mind. you are not going to change them. i think this is the goal of the committee, they will lay out case. at the end, they will say we have indisputable evidence that the former president committed treason and inside it right.

they will arrest him. when he is arrested, deny him bail. he can defend himself in court. this is what is going to happen. that's why i believe it's being televised. anyone who is thinking logically can figure this out. deflect, deny, repeat. thank you. host: colorado is next. caller: my biggest concern is the division that's going on. point the fingers where you may. it's not right what's going on it. if you're going to have a hearing, bring everyone out. the ones that are in d.c. jail, what they seen. what part did they see? why aren't they being pulled out?

i think we are entitled to it. it's not happening. we need to hear from them people. the gentleman said video speaks volumes. where is he? i think it's important that he is there. has he been in other circumstances like that? i've seen the video of officers opening up the barricades and opening up the doors. someone needs to explain this stuff to us. we want to see all of the evidence. let the guilty be guilty. we need to see everything. not just one side. it's we the people. we deserve an answer. host: david, do you think you

will get that answer at the end of the seven hearings? caller: we should care about one another and what's happening to america. if we are going to have another committee hearing, we have so many of them. nothing is ever done. nothing is ever done after that point. let's do it right. let's let the truth be told. let's do this right. we need to get back to being we the people and fight together because it's not emma kratz versus republicans. -- democrats versus republicans. these people that are in washington, they need to be fighting for us. host: ok. the lead opinion piece in the new york times, the insurrection isn't over is the headline.

some opinions on twitter. this is from sleepy joe on twitter.

in pennsylvania, sharon, go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. can you hear me? host: we can. caller: i've got to say that what happened on january 6 was planned way before january 6. they wanted to impeach trump and get rid of him. that's what they wanted to do. they put joe biden in office. what's the difference between insurrection and transformation? they did it transformation. all of us are hurting from it.

at the gas pumps, at the grocery store, transformation to greenert, to do away with everything. they did it all on purpose. if you don't understand that, all you've got to do is listen to what's going on. it's just ridiculous. host: kimberly is on the independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to say that i don't know if anybody caught it. when they impeached the president of the second time, he was impeached because they said he incited the insurrection on that day, on january 6. liz cheney said last night that the insurrection was planned well before that. she voted to impeach him. which is it?

did he incited the day that it happened, did he incited days before? i'm sorry to say, the reason i'm not happy about this committee as it is so one-sided. if they had trumpeters on there, if -- they say the president is this person that no one should vote for ever again. they are leaving things out, they are cutting videos off. you don't hear that from these events. i don't trust that. it's very one-sided. my last question is, the guy in charge of the proud boys, isn't

he dark to be a white supremacist? you tell me. that's all i have to say. host: let's check in with john mcardle. host: i want to focus on some of the video the committee played from ivanka trump, donald trump's daughter about her testimony to the committee. the guardian with a reminder of what she told the committee. the former white house advisor said she doesn't believe her father's false claims that the election was stolen from him because of voting fraud. she spoke her bout her perspective been changed after bill barr -- after hearing that bill barr who was the attorney general for most of 2020 and explained to her father repeatedly that he had lost the election. that's what she told the

committee. president trump, former president trump tweeting about that testimony. thisthis is a congressional repr noting some of what former president trump had to say. he blasts the january 6 panel and says ivanka trump was not involved in studying election results. she has checked out and was only trying to be respectful to bill barr and his position as attorney general. the former president going on to say this. "i never said or thought of saying hang mike pence. this is fake news. the so-called rushed to the capital was not caused by me, it was caused by a rake and stolen election."

the former president continuing to respond on his social media platform. host: we have heard a lot of comments about the national guard. the delicate for the district of columbia saying at the january 6 committee hearings begin we are reminded the trump administration delayed deploying d.c. guards. it is past time for the government to pass my bill giving the d.c. mayor control over the national guards. next up, independent line. caller: i enjoy your show every morning. 9.1% of what you just reported was wasted on more of these committee meetings. in my estimation this was a dog

and pony show. nancy pelosi and the democrats want us to take our eyes off of inflation, crime in the democrats cities. that is why she wanted this. to deny jim jordan and others to sew on this committee is unprecedented in our country. i think she is vindictive and spiteful and she is not going to the speaker of the house. as far as the two rinos, cheney is angry because the iraq war -- i think what happened in iraq, she is just a vindictive person. i guess his name is -- his whole district has been redistricted so he is out and so is she.

what nancy pelosi does not want it she does not want the other republicans on the committee. she does not want the truth to come out. this is unprecedented in our country. when she is out the door you will see the republicans in the house. when you take back the house it will start a new committee and they will show videos. the capital has more videos and all kinds of things people can see when you're going into the capital. all those things will be shown. host: you think the committee is withholding that video? caller: definitely. the capital has more videos than any place in the country. host: let's hear from barry in maryland, democrat line. caller: i am mind blown

listening to a lot of what is being said. they say common sense is not, it is showing through. if you look at trump's history, his resume, how he destroyed new jersey with casinos. how he destroyed small businesses. if you are not of a certain economic status, you are not included in his overall move when he plans for him to become an authoritarian. i am at a loss they think this guy will do something credible or magnanimous to move this country forward when he is only concerned with himself. i listen to some of these how republicans call in and they are

just not making any sense. how is it they think that he is going to be concerned about their well-being. host: from the opinion pages of the washington post, this is the headline on data milbank's opinion piece. trump will be gone but the gop dishonor will remain. he is -- republican representative liz cheney. >> there is a reason why people serving in our government take an oath to the constitution. our founding fathers recognized democracy is fragile. people in positions of public trust are duty-bound to defend it. in our country, we do not swear an oath to individual or a political party. we take our oath to defend the united states constitution. that oath must mean something.

tonight i say this to my republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible. there will come a day when donald trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain. i asked all of our fellow americans as you watch our hearings over the coming weeks, please remember what is at stake. remember the men and women who have fought and died so we can live under the rule of law, not the rule of men. i ask you to think of the scene in our capitol rotunda on the night of january 6. they're in a sacred space in our constitutional republic, the place where our presidents lie in state, watched over by statues of washington and jefferson, lincoln, and grant, eisenhower, ford, and reagan, against every wall encircling the room there were swat teams. men and women in tactical gear with long guns deployed inside arc capitol building.

these brave men and women rested beneath paintings depicting the earliest scenes of our republic, including one painted in 1824 depicting george washington resigning his commission, voluntarily the relinquishing power, handing control of the continental army back to congress. with this noble act washington set the indispensable example of the peaceful transfer of power. what president reagan called nothing less than a miracle. the sacred obligation to defend the peaceful transfer of power has been honored by every american president except one. as americans, we all have a duty to ensure that what happened on january 6 never happens again. host: and on twitter, some responses to callers comments. this one from rick.

the lady from massachusetts, jim jordan can tell the truth anytime he chooses. he did tell the truth that he talks to trump all the time. several times during the coup attempt. megan says the reason jim jordan is not on the committee is because he is not -- the new video from the proud boys all good evidence. from cynthia, in terms of the video that has been released. it has been released, there were hundreds of americans fighting law enforcement officers. they showed it clearly last night. we repeated that throughout the night. you can watch that any at c-span.org. it is available on our c-span now mobile app. the republican line is next. lexington, south carolina. raymond? caller: you're probably going to cut me off before i finish my statement. this whole thing with people say they do not understand why

people love donald trump so much. they have to keep something in mind. donald trump was in front of the media on every trip out to marine one and he was going to to to with reporters answering every single question they asked him come every single question. joe biden never takes any questions. when you have thousands and thousands of people with trump flags and trump-pence and trump shirts and stadiums with 30,000 or 40,000 people, there is a reason for that. the general public understands that donald trump tried to save the country. joe biden never even campaigned. he stayed in his basement. trump was out there day in and day out and joe biden stayed in

his basement. didn't even campaigned. the big tech people are the ones pushing this global movement. he was going after them directly and saying america first. that was his mantra. and then you take someone like ben carson to revitalize the african-american communities and put money into them. the black people in this country are starting to wake up. mr. donald trump, the greatest president ever, was out there for them. nobody else is doing it. you never hear about joe biden talking about the slaughter in chicago in the streets. you never hear anything about it. but they want to talk about taking your guns because of the school shootings. host: we are focusing on your

reaction to the first public hearing last night of the select committee. joshua is in california, independent line. caller: i just want to comment. we need to do this investigation. we are so bound up in being against each other, and we look at the budget over 20 years, the republicans have blocked any changes, get rid of the oil thing and all that stuff. in germany they make the motors. all we make is the windmill. it is the greatest change ever. the democrats never get a chance to pass anything and change anything. they just block it.

jobs and so many fields. all of the cancer cures, the gene editing. host: we will get a check from john mcardle who has been keeping track of some of the stories that have come out since last night's hearing with six or seven more total. go ahead. >> six or seven more hearings. we talked about the 1000 interviews the committee has done. 140,000. some documents they have obtained as part of the recommendation. also the 840 defendants who have been arrested in all 50 states when it comes to those who participated in the rye on capitol hill. -- the riot on capitol hill. interesting headline from the tallahassee democrat. florida still has the most people facing january 6 insurrection charges and it is not close.

the number of those from florida charged with climbs -- with crimes related to the insurrection is 91, sake that is well ahead of second-place texas which has 72 residents facing charges according to a database maintained by usa today. when it comes to some of those charges, it is a variety of crimes these folks have been charged with. 735 have been charged with remaining in a federal building, 255 charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers, including the 90 individuals charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon and causing bodily harm to officers. 305 individuals have pleaded guilty to a variety of charges. 19 of those have pleaded guilty to felonies and six individuals have been found guilty at their trial, including five found guilty by juries on felony

charges. interesting note from the w usa 9 wrap up, the fbi is continuing to seek the public health identifying another 350 individuals believed to have committed violent acts on the capitol grounds. the fbi has 16 videos of various suspects wanted for various assault and violent crimes on their website. those are some of the numbers of where the charges are 17 months after that day. host: a few moments ago we played comments from liz cheney at last night's hearing. she said something to the effect of donald trump will be gone, but your dishonor will remain, referring to a number of her republican colleagues. kelly armstrong was asked about that on last night's laura ingraham program -- last night's fox news.

here's what kelly armstrong had to say. >> i have no idea if i am one of the people she is talking about, but every time we use the word unprecedented and every time speaker pelosi uses the word unprecedented we changed 200 years of rules and decorum in the house of representatives. we are kicking minority members off of committees. we are silencing the voices of entire constituencies. the hardest cases are when you need your rules and procedures to work best. not when you get to change them to fix a narrative. that is what has happened with this committee from the beginning. they are putting pressure on doj. they are getting mad at doj. they are issuing subpoenas and contempt charges without any merit in have been doing it from the beginning and are continuing to do it now. we want the u.s. house of representatives to work like the body it is supposed to work like then we should honor our rules and procedures. that is the problem we are

seeing moving forward. >> without republicans on the committee other than a couple, who are not fans and allies of president trump, how do you and other members of the gop who want to defend him or defend your own honor plan to respond to something as harmful as these primetime hearings? >> we will continue to talk about the things my constituencies are talking about. six dollar gas, inflation. we will do things like this. i watch the whole hearing tonight. for as harrowing as it is. when you see an officer knocked down, it brings you back. i was on the floor of the house. these are horrible things. officer edwards deserves to be able to tell her story. it is not new. this is new footage of all information. the only thing new i learned is we will misquote a judicial opinion in federal court because it fits our narrative, and we'll

continue to tell the stories and defend what we want to defend. host: that has a publican congressman from south dakota kelly armstrong. kentucky is up on the phone line, democrat line, tommy, go ahead. caller: the lady had said trump was so honest and everything. i question where was she at when he denied all the way up until -- the porton star until they found -- the porn start until they found a signature on the check. all of these people going to the capital, who was going to gain from it the most? donald trump. why did he wanted the most. epstein was killed. he was at his parties. he got on the bus. talked about the women. the vulgarity.

never told the truth. asked if he ever made a mistake, took a second to think and know he never made a mistake. he was a liar from the beginning , he was a liar at the end. people who follow him -- out here in kentucky, a republican state i wear my mask because i lost and i. if i get infected i am in trouble. i have black lung. there is a new monkeypox and all of this. they sit back and defend a group of people that would send a man in with buffalo horns on his head and look like it idiot and do things, put their feet up on the desk? he had the education to become everything. people go about my home, they know i wear the mask and they take it that i'm a strong

democrat. i am in independent, really. i am tired of hearing people defend a man that took six draft deferments. his dad paid him out of the military. now he is a commander in chief when he got to be president? talk about our soldiers, call us suckers and losers and go over and salute north koreans? go over and talk to vladimir putin and buddy up to him. what kind of people are we that we sit back and have him be talked about by the mental -- by the moral majority. what morals do they have? host: david is in san francisco. good morning. caller: what happened on january 6 was planned election night

when virginia thomas and mark meadows admitted the election was lost to trump. they plotted it from that long ago. host: david, this is the headline from usa this morning. "pence is key focus of inquiry." we heard some of the deposition statements of his former chief of staff. john mcardle, we will hear more about mike pence and the hearings ahead, correct? >> we are expecting perhaps six more hearings. it could be five. they will finish up by the end of the month. this comes from liz cheney's opening statement. monday is the next time we will hear from the committee. 10:00 eastern. the focus on post 2020 election

claims by president trump and his staff. liz cheney says she will present evidence trump knew he lost the 2020 election and try to convince the public about his stolen election claims. in the third hearing next week, there will be a focus on the justice department, former u.s. attorney general bill barr was trump's plan -- trump's plan to replace bar with the justice department would spread his stolen election claims. in the fourth hearing, that is when mike pence will be the focus. liz cheney saying it will focus on the efforts by the former president to try to pressure his vice president to overturn and refuse to count the electoral votes that date. you can look for mark short, the former chief of staff to mike pence to testify at that hearing. the fifth hearing will focus on the trump administration's pressure on state legislators

when it comes to recounts and ballot counts and pressure on state election officials, including georgia election officials. the witness expected there, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. the final hearing will focus on president trump, his actions when it came to january 6 riders. liz cheney saying his efforts to summon the mob and direct them illegally to march on the u.s. capitol. liz cheney saying the final hearing will be a moment by moment account from the attack by a half-dozen white house staff. those folks testifying live in the hearing room in the videotaped testimony. it all gets underway on monday. that is hearing number two. 10:00 eastern. watch it on c-span and c-span.org and you can download the free c-span now video ap. host: thanks for all of your

update this morning. here is what the drudge report looks like. the news aggregator. trump "pence deserves to be hanged. maga meltdown." you can read the stories matt drudge has linked to. on the republican line, margaret. caller: i have a comment. i was watching the hearings last night. it hit me -- this gun control. what would it have looked like if someone had gone in ar-15 through into that senate chamber? i cannot imagine they would be quite so lax on the gun control if they had been riddled with bullets from an ar-15. when i looked at what was going on in the senate chamber and our beautiful capital, it almost

broke my heart we would be this far gone as americans to have this happen in our capital. host: jill is in frazier park, california. caller: my first thought is was this the adam schiff show? everything that thompson and cheney was saying was basically from the adam schiff script from the hoax impeachment, that if anybody did any real research, they would have listened to the -- some of the durham investigation, which is

continuing. my second thing is why didn't any of the state legislatures start to look into the alleged voter fraud. they were making their own rules and laws up as they went, which is totally against the state constitution that previous lawmakers had made. my third thing is this white supremacy thing is total baloney. being a conservative, we do not believe in getting rid of one race or several races or whatever. we believe in everybody loving each other and coming together

the racist history of joe biden is what needs to be looked into. host: let's hear from david in louisiana on the independent line. caller: i am an independent. i've been trying not to call for almost three hours but i cannot do it. i have to call. it is hard to believe two people can look at the same window at the same time and one says it is raining and the other says it is not. it seems like that is what is going on. both sides can agree they successfully breached that building. the insurrection people. the right people, they got in there -- the riot people, they

got in there. i watched it on january 6. i've not heard, why did they stop? they were not beaten back by the police. they were not shot dead or arrested. why did they stop? host: in chico, california. wanda? caller: i just think that is this -- if this is a trial, is that the defendant and his lawyers supposed to be in the room? where is trump? we do not see him on the media. nobody is questioning him on his opinion about this thing. i remember what nancy pelosi's daughter said. if you cross nancy, she will cut your throat, and that is what is happening right now.

i just wondered what is biden's military record? i have not heard a thing about that. was biden in the military at all? how did he go without being checked up on his military record? host: before i wrap up i want to remind you our coverage continues. the hearings resume on monday. our live coverage beginning at 10:00 eastern. committee members mentioned key witnesses on what transpired and why during the assault on the u.s. capitol live on c-span and on our free mobile app that c-span.org. robert is on the democratic line in randolph, massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wish i have a chance to finish my thought. i want to say we cannot call that a show when people's lives are taken and we are looking at the way -- when donald trump

that i love the people that are uneducated, nobody said anything. when hilary said deplorable, everybody raised hell. what i want the country to know, we were at a point, if it was 10,000 or asian or mexicans invade the capital, donald trump would have said the military like he wanted to send it on black lives matter. we have to be honest about what we are seeing. we cannot sugarcoat this. the country is in danger and this is why vladimir putin can invade ukraine. when he sees that weakness in us like this as a people, we are sending this country to hell in a plastic bag. what is going on to the contrary? are we not seeing the same

thing. don't you see what is going on? the guide could not govern the country. he does not know what he is doing. we have to wake up as americans. unite, so we >> the republican is not looking at the same thing going on in the world. host: that will do it for this morning's program. we look forward to having you with us tomorrow morning at 7:00 eastern, hope you have a great weekend. we will see you tomorrow. ♪

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