tv Washington Journal 06162022 CSPAN June 16, 2022 7:00am-9:01am EDT
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then representative mark takano talks about veterans issues and the january 6 committee investigation hearings. be sure to join the conversation with your calls, texts, and tweets. >> we had the fed understand the hardship high inflation has caused. we are strongly committed to bringing inflation back down and we are moving expeditiously to do so. we have the tools we need and the resolve it will take to restore price stability on behalf of american families and businesses. host: federal reserve board chair jerome powell yesterday after the fed voted to raise interest rate 5.75%, the largest hike in -- interest rates by .75%, the largest hike in 30 years. it is as interest rates continue
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to climb and affect americans ability to buy gas or afford a mortgage. will it be enough to restore faith in the fed or the biden administration to control inflation and high prices. welcome to "washington journal," for thursday, june 16, 2022. for republicans, (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents, (202) 748-8002, and said is a text at (202) 748-8003. tell us your name and where you are texting from. we are on facebook. we look for your thoughts on twitter and instagram. your faith in the federal reserve and the biden administration to fight inflation. we will hear more from jay powell and also criticism from congressional republicans as well.
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we will bring you other capitol hill news and update you on our coverage plans of today's january 6 hearing. first to the rate hike. our opening question, the headline in the washington post says markets and households lose faith that the fed can handle inflation. in that article, they write the federal reserve's missteps in waiting too long to tackle the greatest run-up in prices in four decades has shaken trust across markets. an opinion piece about the rate hike in bloomberg by jonathan 11. the headline on his piece says powell's late start on inflation traps the fed in a dilemma. the central bank lacks tools to combat food and energy costs which are driving price growth expectations. it can ride it out or risk a recession.
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the piece says jerome powell is trapped in a dilemma that essentially guaranteed to keep the central bank at the mercy of inflationary forces, not in control of them. the fed monetary policy tools are useless against a surge in food and energy prices but are started to play an outside role in rising inflation expectations , situation that could embed rising prices into the national psyche. that is bad news for the economy and raises the risk of stagflation. in his remarks to reporters on wednesday after the central bank raised interest rate 75 basis warrants, jay powell appeared to acknowledge how powerless he felt. we cannot have much of an effect but we have to be mindful of the potential effects on inflation expectations. it is a difficult situation to be in. powell's commitment to mindfulness will not help one bit. that from jonathan 11, an
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opinion piece in bloomberg. our question about your confidence in the fed and abided administrations ability to get inflation and prices under control. (202) 748-8001 is the line for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, and for independents, (202) 748-8002. the federal open market committee met yesterday. the chair spoke to reporters. here is what he said. >> we understand the hardship high inflation is causing. we are strongly committed to bringing inflation back down and are moving expeditiously to do so. we have the tools we need at the resolve it will take to restore price stability on behalf of american families and businesses. the economy and the country have been through a lot and improve -- and have proved resilient. it is essential we bring inflation down if we are to have
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a sustained period of strong labor market conditions that benefit all. from the standpoint of our congressional mandate to promote maximum employment and price stability, the current picture is plain to see. the labor market is extremely tight and inflation is much too high. against this backdrop the federal open market committee raised its policy interest rate by .75% and anticipates ongoing increases in that rate will be appropriate. host: comments from members of congress on the move by the fed yesterday and the economy. james clyburn saying in a tweet "putin's unjust war has resulted in american families having to pay to put food on the table and keep gas in their tax. house democrats will pass an act to make cheaper fuel available and reduce directly prices at the grocery store."
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alex mooney with the tweet more americans disapprove of joe biden's job and they did jimmy carter in 1978. joe biden 71%, jimmy carter 66%. biden's disastrous policies are crushing west virginians. (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, for independents, (202) 748-8002 . your faith in the fed and abided administration. this is the front page of the usa today. they write the federal reserve rolled out the heavy artillery with its bid to fight a historic inflation spike that has shown little that up. the aggressive strategy likely to further slow the economy and increase the risk of recession.
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the fed raised its key short-term interest rate by .75% yesterday, its largest hike since 1994. it downgraded its economic forecast. usa today says it's signals more moves may come. forecast the fed funds rate will end 2022 and 3.5% and here close near 4%. that suggests the fed plans increases in july and september before for throttling back the rest of the year. let's hear first from margaret on the democrats line in kansas. caller: good morning. i think we are terribly spoiled in this country. people around the world have been struggling over fuel.
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hello? host: turn down your volume and listen to the phone, otherwise you will get confused. go ahead with your comments. caller: i think you need a more realistic -- i cannot even relate to all of this stuff. i do not own stocks. all i know is people are gouging, gouging. if you hold back certain products and you make it hard, i've watch the prices of food, it is just a big ripoff. we need to get together and quit being spoiled. we are in a heat wave struggle and we need fuel. that is true. we need to live. you never should've made a city
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in a desert. we have done so many stupid things. host: we will go to joe in virginia, independent line. caller: i think -- i do not think the buy-in administration -- the biden administration has much to do with inflation. they can make some policy changes but i think when you go from a pandemic where very few people were working or working from home, and then you go from a situation in the economy where everybody is back to work -- that could cause problems with inflation. host: is the move by raising interest rates, you think that will help slow the progress of inflation? caller: i think it will slow
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somewhat. i think this just has to play out. we have been in a pandemic. this is something that is very different and i think we need to be patient. people will cut back. host: have you yourself cut back on spending? caller: yes. no doubt i have. gas prices are high, food prices are high. when wages go up, they are going up, that is good for people to feel good about their wages, people come back from a pandemic and they want to spend. the american economy wants to spend. people are not spending on gas during the pandemic and they go back to work, everybody goes
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back to work. gas prices go up. host: might in hamilton, ohio. you are on. caller: hello. host: mike in ohio, go ahead. go ahead. we will go to wanda in jacksonville, florida. caller: i think it so bad politicians continue to divide us. you set up a separate line for people to call in and assume their opinions go with their party. i do not like that. i think it is bad.
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i am a nurse. i have seen a lot of people die. i've never seen the color of a fool. host: fed conducts historic interest rate hike in desperate bid to control inflation. the federal reserve announced its most aggressive hike in nearly three decades to counteract the excruciating inflation afflicting the economy. the federal open market committee announced wednesday it would increase its interest rate by .75%. the central bank typically raises rates just one quarter of a percent, so the move signals the fed is scrambling to drive down prices. the washington examiner quotes the fed saying the committee is strongly committed to returning inflation to its 2% objective. fed officials at a more forceful declaration that is typical. the drastic moves comes just days after may's consumer price
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index came in hotter than expected and showed prices increased by 8.6% on an annual basis, the fastest since 1981 during the great inflation that helped sweep president ronald reagan into office. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the u.s. senate had this to say about the biden administration response to inflation and the economy. >> american families are being crushed by giant inflation tax. it has been fueled by democrats huge mistakes. month after month, families pick up the newspaper, turn on the television, and here democrats inflation is setting new records. month after month, families find themselves shelling out hundreds upon hundreds of extra dollars per month just to tread water. forget about saving and getting
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ahead. in this economy, working americans have to shell out hundreds of extra dollars every month just remain standing still. even when you factor in the pay raises workers have earned, the average american worker got a 3.9% pay cut last year due to democrats inflation. according to the joint economic committee, inflation costs the average american household $635 last month alone. six or $35 in one month. host: other reaction from capitol hill. a tweet from the progressive caucus saying the fed must proceed with caution. rate hikes risk recession, increase burdens on working people. taking people out of work will have no impact on inflation.
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lower costs help banned corporate price gouging. congressman mike rogers from alabama. bidens failed policies are to blame. the solution is simple. unleash the american production of energy. joe biden would rather blame foreign countries. a congressman saying the recent letter to refiners does not resolve the issue. what we need is dialogue. what we need is real solutions. jeff duncan says stop the spending, stop the money printing, unleash america from the restraints of big government , rising interest rates the highest since 1994. this administration has lost control of runaway inflation. on the energy sector, the front page of usa today on the letter the administration has written to oil producers, referred to in that tweet, the biden letter urges topsoil companies to cut
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gas prices. president biden told oil producers to immediately cut costs for americans as gas prices exceed five dollars a gallon in some parts of the country. biden in a letter to the heads of top oil and gas companies say russia's war against ukraine is only partially responsible for their sharp rise in gasoline prices and ask them to work with his administration to increase the supply of gasoline to americans. let's hear from mary in new jersey. caller: good morning. it is so nice to talk to you. i believe in the democrats. they always seem to have to clean up the republicans problems when inflation hits. it is not biden's fault. i appreciate his note to the oil companies and all of the price
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gouging oil ceos are doing. i think this inflation is highly hyperbolic by the media and i think c-span, i agree with the nurse from florida. when media matters was on he suggested c-span not put the democrats, republicans, independents as part of the call in because i agree it sets up a confrontational type of situation, and we do not need to have that. i think it would be interesting if c-span would ask the question of people, how many people in the united states were conned by the former guy when he asked for money and they were put on this automatic donation to a fund that was not even right and
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they made over $250 million? i think that is an important question to ask the american people. also, the incredible problems that -- hurting our democracy on january 5 and january 6. the next question that should be asked on washington journal is the compromise that ginny thomas has brought to the american people through the fact she happens to be married to a supreme court justice. host: plots there. we touched -- lots there. we touched on a lot. january 6 committee releases new footing -- new footage of a tour given by representative
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loudermilk. new details of a tour given by representative larry melt -- by representative loudermilk of georgia one day before the building was attacked by a mob of trump supporters. in a letter the committee said some of the individuals who are on the tour led by the congressman on january with attended donald trump's rally the following day and marched towards the capital. in video obtained by the investigators, one of the men from the tour can be heard making threats against nancy pelosi, then senate minority leader chuck schumer, and representatives jerry nadler and alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york. that is from yahoo! news. congressman barry loudermilk released a statement yesterday. the statement says the false narrative that the committee and democrats continue to push that republicans, including myself,
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led a reconnaissance tour is verifiably false. nowhere i went with the visitors on january 5 were breached on january 6 and no one in the group was criminally charged in relation to january 6. the committee released this letter to the press and did not contact me. this type of behavior is irresponsible and has real consequences, including ongoing death threats to myself, my family, and my staff. our question this morning is about your faith in the fed and the biden administration on fighting inflation. joe is on the republican line in arkansas. good morning. caller: how are we doing this morning? host: find, thanks. caller: the people are getting a taste of what 1929 was. i am not going to try to explain that to the young generation.
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these people do not know history. going back to your question, the american public has now seen what this administration has accomplished in the last 18 months. i would love for some people mccallion -- some people to call in and inform us american people what has been accomplished in the last 18 months. when president biden took office he shut down the oil and the coal. this country runs on oil and coal. now tesla says they have to increase the price of their cars because of the price of the batteries. again, the babies cannot get their formula and they had to shut down again. this administration has not accomplished too much for us. being a senior citizen on social security is difficult.
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thank you for taking my call today. host: in oklahoma, christopher on the democrats line. caller: good morning. that last caller. he said -- i do not think we are anywhere close to the great depression or anything like that at all. my comment was as far as my faith in the abided administration -- in the biden administration or any administration, these things appear to be -- when science comes into play, these are systemic things that, in cycles. there is no one thing any administration can do to change it and there is no one thing to cause it. there are so many variables.
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that is why we are talking about it. it is kind of scary but i do not think it is on a great depression level. host: should the fed or the administration have responded sooner? caller: i don't think it would matter. i think there is a reaction on a microscale, and that is what that is, a small reaction. this is a macro issue. i don't think it would matter if they had responded sooner. it will balance out itself. people will change their behavior, whether they know it or not, even unconsciously they will change their behavior at the gas pump come at grocery
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stores, they will change their behavior in a lot of ways. host: appreciate that. a couple of comments on twitter. steve says do not forget this is worldwide inflation because of all of the right wing tax cuts on the rich 1%. the need to pay their fair share to help bring down inflation. oil companies are responsible for the inflation. price gouges always raises inflation. tax the rich says steve. biden and his dog and pony show, they are all wealthy and inflation will never affect their wallet. sue says we cannot trump this off. people are faced with choices. food, basic necessities. those that are fortunate flaunt it. this just says abolish the fed and go back to the gold standard. we go back to a comment made by
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our caller joe from arkansas. he mentioned baby formula. here is that story. from foxbusiness, baby formula production halted at abbott's michigan plant due to flooding. michigan is next. the republican line. caller: i agree with the people say you are starting out by asking whether we are democrat or republican. not because how i feel about this present administration. the gas prices, i do not know if there is a connection, but the gas problems irate into was when carter was president and he was a democrat. the second was clinton. i had just bought a new ford truck and all of a sudden gas was over four dollars a gallon. that truck did not get good gas
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mileage. i would not have bought the truck had i known gas would go that high. now we have another democrat in office and begin the gas prices are high. if there is a connection, i wish someone would look into it and see. i will let it go at that. it has been a long time since i called in and i'm getting nervous and i will start stumbling and making a full of myself. -- making a fool of myself. host: you did not. elizabeth on the independent line. caller: i think joe biden is doing a terrific job. he is giving money to ukraine. in maryland we will have free breakfast and school lunch for all of the kids going back to summer school. i cannot get a job but i'm a senior. i'm trying to get a computer job
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at home. everyone is back to work. covid, people have gotten their vaccines and their boosters. people are back to work and their kids are back in school not during the virtual education. the only solution to solving an economic problem we have is to tax the rich. tax jeff bezos and all of the corporations. under trump they were not taxed and biden wants to tax all of them and then we will have plenty of money for people to go back to work. where i live there is rental assistance and people are getting evicted. there is housing assistance. there is food assistance. abided has done a terrific -- biden is doing a terrific job. host: this is the front page of the wall street journal.
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the fed lifts rates by the most since 1994, and the chart going back to 1990 when the rate was 8%. wednesday the fed raised the rate by .75%, bringing into a range of 1.5 to 1.75%. the central bank raises its benchmark, signaling for the rapid tightening in 2022. sarasota, florida. democrats line. caller: good morning. the gop is part of this problem. look at trump's agreement. how did one president take us from an import of foreign oil at a level of $564 billion from opec at the end of the obama administration to $15 billion at
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the end of trump, and now the u.s. cannot produce oil at an affordable rate for this nation? that is not the keystone pipeline. the keystone pipeline is crude oil from sand. where is the rest of that oil? nobody is talking about trump's trade agreements. you want to talk about baby formula come is trade agreements. you want to talk about the cost of goods, it is trade agreements. start putting the blame where the blame lies. host: to timothy in illinois. democrats line. caller: i think the federal reserve is a blunt instrument. they can lower inflation but they will wreck the economy while they do it. the problem with inflation was
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pandemic aftereffects with supply and demand shock, which is largely a global issue, and what we do have control over is our sanctions on russia. i do not think the war itself is causing it, it is the crazy sanctions we should think about unwinding which is exacerbating it. it is not hitler's. it is not like that at all. i do not think the recovery bill -- i think biden is getting the worst of both worlds since he did not pass build back better. at the same time he is being blamed for passing what he did not pass. those are my thoughts. host: we are taking your thoughts on your confidence in the federal reserve and the administration to control inflation and rising prices. (202) 748-8001 for republicans,
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(202) 748-8000 for democrats. for independents, (202) 748-8002 . jay powell was asked about what may lie ahead in terms of future rate hikes. >> ultimately we will not declare victory until we see a series of these, really see compelling evidence inflation is coming down. that is what it would take for us to say we think this job is done. we saw it and we saw last year that inflation came down over the course of the summer and then went back up. either it will be careful about declaring victory. the implementation of our policy will be flexible and sensitive to incoming data. >> are you more concerned now
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that to bring down inflation will require more than just some pain? >> i think that their objectives , our objective is to bring inflation down to 2% by the labor market remains strong. i think that what is becoming more clear is that many factors we do not control are going to play significant role in deciding whether that is possible or not. i am thinking of commodity prices, the war in ukraine, supply chain, where monetary policy stands does not affect those things. having said that, there is a path for us to get there. it is not getting easier.
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it is getting more challenging because of these external forces. host: twitter reaction from capitol hill. marsha blackburn from tennessee with a tweet -- despite with white house as the economy is not in a better place. americans cannot afford food and gas and essential items are not in stock. americans deserve better from there president. mike thompson from california talking about gas prices. i am proud to support the consumer fuel price gouging prevention act to crack down on price gouging. i will support measures that lower prices for families and provide a bright future for every californian. he says big oil prices are seeing record profits as they reap the benefits of prudence illegal invasion. lois frankel also supporting that bill. on the interest rates, a, smith from oklahoma says as the
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largest interest rate hike by the federal reserve since 1994 in an attempt to pool our nations out of control inflation , this action should be a wake-up call for the president and democrats to stop ignoring this crisis and end their wasteful spending. host: sam is up next. indianapolis. caller: good morning. i love your show. i want to caution people that president biden is two faced because i am running for federal office and i just learned from the budget committee that his budget for next year is already in place. he has already submitted it. i have been taking a look at it. i want to caution people the president is two faced because he has all of his plans and he is coming front of the media and saying look at me doing this. meanwhile he is backstabbing everybody in this budget alone. he is not telling the american people that.
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i am shocked. i feel the white house has a two faced attitude. i hope we have new candidates in 2024. i will do everything possible to see my country gets a fair shake. biden has already turned on the american public and when he says i will take care of this, remember he already has his plans. he is not going to tell people everything. i am shocked at this whole thing and i think it is terrible what it is doing with our inflation. i feel that when he goes to the congress, he has already said this is what i want to do. the plans biden has is a throw over from the obama administration. i caution people. you have a two faced president. host: steve on the independent line. caller: the president does not
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seem to have a sense of history. he is doing his best impression of jimmy carter. he needs to do what richard nixon did with the economic stabilization act where he had a 90 day freeze on wages and prices at that is something he should do to mitigate the cost of gas and there should be a national price of gas capping at five dollars a gallon. call the oil executives into the white house and say you have been gouging the public for a year. if you will not play ball with me i will impose price controls on your product. i do not know why he is not done this already. if he does not want to do that and put a bill to congress doing exactly that and let see the republicans and democrats get together and try to do something. host: you think people broadly would support price controls? caller: in this economy?
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absolutely. who would be opposed to putting a cap on gas prices at five dollars a gallon? who would be against that. host: appreciate the call. michael in pennsylvania. republican line. caller: i am so sick of this biden, such a hypocrite. what happened to the $14 million him and his wife made and they got a special income tax form where they did not have to pay obamacare, social security, or anything. i say to biden, pay your fair share. thank you. host: this is the wall street journal in their opinion on the interest rate announcement. "slouching towards inflation reality." the media and market chatter is the federal reserve finally took out the anti-inflation bazooka with a 75 point rate increase on wednesday.
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there is no doubt jerome powell sounded hawkish notes, but the overall message still looked more like a central bank slouching towards inflation reality but not yet convinced it has to do all that much to get prices under control. the 75 point increase was supposed to signal shop and all and was the fed's first move of that magnitude since 1994. mr. powell also said it increase of between 50 and 75 basis points is likely at its next meeting. if you look at the fit forecast, the fed interest rate is expected to rise only 3.4% this year. that means increases will taper off through the rest of this year. the fed is front reloading its rate increases but still not anticipating it has to go all that high to beat inflation. in montana, we hear from mary on the democrat line. good morning. caller: good morning.
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i have been a registered democrat all my life. i will be voting all republican. i think what biden has done to this country is terrible. the gall of him to get on national tv and go after the gas and oil companies, you have to do this, you have to do that, what about all of his speeches he gave when he was running for president saying i am going to shut fossil fuel down? this guy is a liar and people are sick to death of him. democrats, we do not believe your lies. host: we hear from david on the republican line next. good morning. caller: good morning.
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i feel like the president wants to do something to address the situation that all of us are facing. the other thing that is in his behavior seems to suggest otherwise. i wonder how the contradiction can be explained? the american people want to know it is explained as well. they feel every day, you say we will do something, we have a plan. what does that mean? what is the reasoning and the planning to get us out of this problem? host: there is a tweet from republican members of the house. they say "inflation is raging at the highest level since 1981. essentials like food and gas and shelter are becoming unaffordable for american families. democrats would rather divert attention from their dismal economic record than address
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this crisis of their own creation." on the independent line in illinois, cedric. mute your volume and go ahead with your comment. cedric in illinois. go ahead. host: we will go to miles in patterson, new jersey. caller: i cannot believe how everybody comes on this line and blames the president for what is going on when we know the ceos of these big companies are responsible for this inflation. the gas company, the president cannot -- he has no control over the gas thing and everybody knows that. another thing, how do you expect something to get done when you cannot get the republican party to have the decency to help get bills passed? every time they try to pass a bill they block it. if you folks love this country
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then why are you stopping these bills coming through that will help people instead of bring them down? every time we get a democratic present all of the site and all these problems come up from nowhere. the republican party will not help this president do anything. they want the senate back, they want the house, they want all this stuff. watch all of the prices going to drop right back to normal. we have billionaires with all this money and they are squeezing us for more money. it does not make sense. i pray for all of them. host: this is the new york times this morning. one of their stories on the inflation front. what the fed rate increase means for credit cards, and student loans.
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credit card rates are closely linked to the fed action so consumers with revolving debt can expect to see those rates rise, usually within one or two billing cycles. the average credit card rate was recently 16.73%, from 16.34% in march. car loans are also expected to climb. those increases continue to be overshadowed by the rising cost of buying a vehicle at the pain of what you will pay at the gas pump. car loans tend to track the five year treasury influenced by the federal funds rate but that is not the only factor that determines how much you will pay. looking at student loans, whether the rate increase will affect your student loan payment depends on the type of loan you have. read more about that in the anticipated costs at n ytimes.com. good morning to doug on our democrats line. caller: good morning.
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i have lost faith in all these politicians. they all should be sent down the road kicking rocks. a lot of this has to do with trump because he was always drawing to get the fed to lower the interest rate. now if you have money in the bank is worth nothing. i have 30,000 in one savings account and i looked at the interest, it was .05. they have not raised the interest at the banks. if you borrow money you will be paying a lot more. if you live on credit it will be paying a lot more. interest rate will keep going up. they keep spending too much money and biden has a lot to do. he is not totally to blame but i think opec has a lot to do with that.
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they all need to be sent down the road kicking rocks. this debt anymore. $32 trillion in debt. my calculator will not go high enough to figure out what the interest rate will be on the debt. host: ronald in philadelphia on the independent line. good morning. caller: the same corporations you gave a tax break to gave loans to, now they are ripping you off. i will keep raising the price of gas, but i thought the price of oil went down. the price of gas has gone up. these corporations are ripping you off. the dollar store raise their price $.25. you go to the corporate store and it is four dollars. same thing. these corporations are ripping you off. donald trump -- he brought the
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real out of the woods. they put on the suits. host: the u.s. to send $1 billion more in military aid to ukraine, u.s. ending more in military assistance to help combat russian invasion amid growing strains among western capitals. john kirby, the new strategic communications coordinator for the national security council talk about that in a conversation between president biden and the grading president yesterday -- and the ukrainian president yesterday. >> the president took the opportunity to say we are announcing $1 billion in additional security assistance to support ukraine's armed forces. that includes a drawdown of security valued at $350 million.
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as well as $650 million in equipment provided for the crane security assistance fund, that is where the pentagon will procure material in that amount to provide directly to ukraine. does go different buckets of that billion dollars. this is the 12th time the president has authorized drawdowns, and that brings the total amount of security assistance to approximately $5.6 billion since russia launched its assault in late february. $6.3 billion since the beginning of the biden administration. the presidents also informed president zelenskyy we will send humanitarian assistance to help people inside ukraine obtain safe drinking water, health care, food, shelter, other essential items. you all realize the scope of the
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numbers of internally displaced people just inside ukraine, let alone the millions that have to leave ukraine. since february 24th united states has provided more than $914 million in humanitarian assistance to address the needs of people in ukraine and support those that have had to flee. host: factor calls. jerry in new jersey, democrats line. your thoughts on the fed and the biden administration's ability to get inflation under control. caller: my one interesting observation is gas at $130 a barrel, previously at that rate it was in the mid-three dollars a gallon. i do not see where the shortages. there are no lines at the gas station. it seems to be there just raking in the profits. caller: -- host: david in louisiana, independent line.
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caller: correct me if i am wrong , but we used to be on the gold standard which richard nixon took us off of and enable china to get into the position they are in today. if we return to the gold standard, congress could not spend more than what was allocated in gold reserves. i may be wrong, but that was a voluntary release from the gold standard, which started back with richard nixon. at that time is pay $.25 a gallon for gas. that was a 1968 and 1969. host: how quickly did it shoot up? in the early 70's what were you paying? caller: as soon as he took us
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off the gold standard it went from $.25 to $.75. we thought that was outrageous. we were screaming and hollering. you blame it on congress, too. host: to john in virginia. caller: but one thing that remains the same no matter what side you are on is the prices, when you look at consumer inflation or the grocery store. this war should not have happened. the money we are spending there. i keep hearing people talk about blame. it is not about blame, it is about responsibility. whoever -- that is not what is happening.
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no matter what side you are on, if you like biden or hate trump, the fact of the matter is whoever is in the white house has the responsibility to do something about the problem. that is clearly not happening. that is what i wanted to say. thank you very much. host: several callers putting the blame on companies for high prices. blame on companies for another reason. an editorial writer for the york times come the headline of his peace "these companies are still funding trumps bie lie caucus." he writes that a lot of money from companies has gone to politicians who reject the 2020 election results based on lies told by the former president according to a tally kept by citizens for responsibility of ethics in washington. as of this week corporations and industry groups gave almost 32
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million dollars to house and senate members who voted to overturn the election and the gop committee focus on the campaigns. the top 10 companies that gave money to those members are coke industries, boeing, home depot, lockheed martin, marathon petroleum, and fedex. all of those companies once said they would refrain from donating to politicians who voted to reject the election results. alex kingsbury writes that of the companies that promise not to fund the 147 senators and representatives, fewer than half stuck to their promise. kudos aplenty to the 85 corporations who stuck to their guns and store refused to fund this addition asked, including nike, pepsico, marriott, target.
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that is what responsible corporate citizenship looks like and it is also patriotic, in the view of "the new york times. host: john is on the republican line. go ahead. caller: old solis joe, he will not do anything for the american people. he is sending another $1 billion to ukraine but you did not report that putin's general was just on the news saying he blew up the depot with all of the missiles at all the money we sent over there, along with europe. if you will not have any oversight it was going to be sent over there, all he is doing is sending all of our money over to ukraine. day one he waged war on these companies, what you think they are going to do? if you go to a company and sale put you out of business, what you think they will do? they will try to take as much money as you can.
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another thing about this insurrection -- host: catherine is up next. democrats line. arlington, texas. caller: i've been listening to c-span and everyone on the show. what people are not looking at is every time a democrat gets in the white house after a republican, this type of stuff happens. who controls all the money? republicans. the thing is democrat presidents can never get anything done because they block everything. just to make the democrat president look bad. are people not seeing what happens every time a democrat gets in the white house after a republican? it is not their fault. i do not understand why people are not saying what is going on.
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who controls everything? host: milton in florida. independent line. caller: i have three questions for you. have you ever heard of the monroe doctrine? host: yes. caller: you know it says not in my back yard. you remember the cuban missile crisis? host: yes. caller: when russia tried to put nuclear weapons in cuba you could spot from florida. america said not in my back yard. when everyone talks about putin going crazy, think about america wants to save face in these matters, but you have to remember nato, these lands are right next door to russia. if they go to nato, they can put
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nuclear weapons across the fence from them. host: on our topic, couple of tweaks on inflation and the fed's role. the rise of interest rates. there is not a lot biden can do about inflation or the economy, contrary to gop rhetoric. the fed has too much power to trust since it is the banking industry that controls it. tony tweets saying biden campaigned he would accept responsibility. all he does is what despots always do, vilify others to be the focus of resentment. steve is on our republican line. in california. caller: i have sat here and listened to this show for about 45 minutes and i have three things to say. i think viewers ought to have a
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certified iq test on file at c-span in order to make a call. it ought to be above 75. number two, on kgo radio in the bay area at the start of the biden administration with a prediction -- i predicted biden would destroy the dollar. number three. elections have consequences. you democrats, enjoy it. host: just for the record, there is no iq test or any other test to call into this program. we welcome this call -- we welcome your calls. tonya is in virginia on the independent line. you are next. caller: thank you for taking my call.
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c-span and many of the colors are very entertaining, but we have plenty of jobs. i know people working two jobs because there is plenty to go around. unemployment is low but the problem is these oil companies are raising prices when they do not have to. traditionally prices do go up in the summer because they're are more people that will travel. by the fall, i bet gas prices will go down because people will be traveling last. -- will be traveling less. that is all i have to say. my husband and i are retired and we do not spend as much. i will not travel as much.
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just take your dollars and spend when you need. sometimes you have to cut back. everything will pan out. i trust biden will do the right thing. i thank god for him and we have to pray for a president at our leaders each and every day. host: caller: i believe it is the whole democratic party putting ad ideas in joe biden's head. they are blaming hyden for their bad ideas. if you chop the head off the democratic party is like a cockroach. we will be joined next by tom mcclintock.
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california. also on the judiciary subcommittee on the constitution and civil rights. welcome to washington journal. let's start with the feds move raising that interest rate to try to help battle inflation, what'd you think about the move in the effort so far by the hyden administration? guest: the fed did what they had to do. the problem is the fed rate has to be at least at the inflation rate. as far as the hyden administration, what is the definition of inflation. the lockdown caused inflation, the administration poured too much money and it caused inflation.
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host: is that still happening by the administration and do you see that happening in their proposed budget for 2022. guest: if they get their build back budget through that is an additional billions of dollars right now interest rates are going up but we have got to hold the line on spending 28, 76 and 89. 28% is the combined growth of population and inflation of the last 10 years. 76% is the increase of federal revenues in the same. . it is approaching three times the population.
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89 is the percent increase in spending in the same. . the spending is stupid. host: the prices in general is affecting the entire country, especially in your district in california. what are you hearing from your constituents? guest: i tell you what i saw when i went to the airport, gases $6.95 for regular. that is quite a bit higher for the rest of the country. california has imposed so many additional clauses. the bottom line is that this cannot continue, this is crushing families. this is not some mysterious act of god that has visited upon our nation. this was bad public policy. the good news is, we can change that if we summon political will.
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host: i want to ask you about the efforts after the mass shootings, the house passed a bill contacting our children's act, the senate is working on a deal which may include that senate bipartisan proposal, it would close the boyfriend loop hole, it would have community health clinics, school safety rules and enhance background checks for under 21 gun buyers. what are your thoughts? is it something that you could support? guest: overall, we have had more than 50 years with gun-control laws in this country and they are very effective in disarming
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law-abiding citizens and ineffective in disarming criminals and terrorists. they create an environment where law-abiding citizens are defenseless in the government is king. that has been the case in gun free zones. the good news is we know what works. putting gone predators in jail. executing murderers works. identifying the dangers of the mentally ill and confining them to mental institutions works. law-abiding citizens who can shoot back works. after uvalde, there was an incident in virginia. a gunman fired into a graduation party. there was a woman with a concealed weapon that shot them down on the spot.
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we didn't hear about that because there was a citizen with a gun who was able to stop it before it stopped. host: representative tom mcclintock is with us until about 8:30. around the passage of that bill, the headline house democrats advance gun legislation over objections from republicans. no one questions the common sense of having an armed guard at a bank but what about an armed guard out of school? are you in favor of having an armed guard at a school? guest: why shouldn't a teacher
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be allowed to use that concealed weapons permit to defend students in the classroom if they want to? why don't we put an armed guard at every school when you put an armed guard at a bank or shopping mall. they are there to protect merchandise. why can't we use the same resolve to protect our children? host: what data do we have to show that in those locations that indeed shootings at those schools have gone down? guest: i have not seen data on that point, but i have seen data on gun violence that they have concealed gun permits. criminals know that they can
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shoot back. the buffalo shooter went into this in great detail. he was looking for gun free stones. in uvalde, it was illegal to take guns on the campus. the only person who did not obey that law was a gunman. host: that manifesto was published at the time of the shooting. guest: he was reasoning this through, if you are in a gun free zone people are not going to shoot back. host: in the senate legislation the efforts to identify potential mental or emotional problems with people under the age of 18 and under.
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the shooter in buffalo, the one in uvalde, both having some trouble or issue that had not been identified. should we be able to find ways to identify those? guest: we had ways to identify those. we identified people before, they should not have access to any kind of weapon. we had a process that respected all of our due process rights, when we encountered someone like that, we could commit them, can find them and get them the help they needed. just for california, if you compare the number of individuals, dangerous, mentally ill individuals. compared to 1960, we should have
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about 100,000 dangerously mentally ill people that can be treated but we don't have them there. they are out on the street. it has been completely corrupted by the left. we used to prosecute criminals to the full extent of the law. they bargain down gun charges. look at hunter biden. you are not allowed to do that by a gun if you are a drug felon. is he being prosecuted? what kind of message does that send? what does that tell us of our own resolve? host: let's hear what our
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callers are thinking. let's hear from arkansas. caller: congressman, you were talking about the interest rate when you first came on. i think you said it might go to 8%. can you imagine what the interest on the national debt if you raised it to 8%? guest: you forget that is what paul volker had to do. we had to double interest rates to quell inflation. that is basic economics. you are absolutely right about the debt. caller: paul volker did not have that amount of national debt.
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he raised the national debt by quadruple but it was still small. paul volker could do that a getaway with it. if powell raises it to 8% he would not have enough money to pay social security. it is not realistic. guest: your point is well taken. the size of the national debt today, a small increase in interest rates creates a massive interest cost. every 1% increase in rates produces 100 billion to the national debt. host: brownsburg, indiana, this is kevin. caller: all due respect sir, you are the reason why someone like
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me is considered independent. everyone blame something on the opposite party. tell me something bad your party is done. i do agree with you that teachers should be armed. i will pick a soft target if i am going to do something. i really don't understand why they call it the boyfriend bill. it is a slap in the face to men. men get abused too. host: that term is called the boyfriend loophoole. guest: it's not about parties is
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about policies the work and policies that don't work. what donald trump did as a republican and what bill and clinton did as a democrat. he ended the era of welfare as we know it and the economy blossomed. john f. kennedy had a dramatic cut in the income tax. george w. bush increased taxes and increased spending dramatically and it caused her. of great economic distress. it is not a matter of party it's a matter of policy. the democrats are pursuing a policy of massive spending,
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massive taxation, massive regulation and it is crushing us. host: let's hear from tony on the republican line from california. caller: i have been a staunch supporter of the second amendment but i can't reconcile my views with what happened in uvalde. i can't agree with arming teachers. we should just do some background checks. host: we are going to ali in maryland. caller: i agree with the previously caller. we have to listen very carefully to how you phrase your words.
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you say that laws over the last 50 years do not protect law-abiding citizens, they only help criminals and crazy people. well the crazy people got there guns and law-abiding citizens when they got there guns. there was no documentations that said oh, i am crazy and unstable. the only point i would like to make, why do we always have to split things in terms of, right or left, republican or democrat. why don't we just look at data? data is what we should be using. you mentioned the family and the lady who pulled out her gun. how many cases like that are there? guest: there have been a number of studies on that.
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about one million to 2 million crimes a year are prevented by citizens. host: would you like to respond to his other comments? guest: it is not a question of parties, it is a question of policies. policies put forward by democrats have been disastrous. the republican parties have put forward lower taxes, those of put forward germanic expansion. for the first time in our lifetime, the income gap between the rich and the poor was narrowing. it was a blue-collar boom. we secured our borders, the record speaks for itself. these are policies that work. if this administration had come in and maintained those policies we would be in a far different
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position. host: every member of the houses up for reelection, have you been endorsed by the former president? host: what you think about the january 6 committee? guest: there are several issues that need to be resolved. there is an 1860's law that needs to be resolved. we need to ask why wasn't there adequate security at the capitol? president trump for days before january 6 offered national guards in democratic leadership in the mayor of washington turned it down. why was that? why was the capital so inadequately prepared? was there a conspiracy to break into the capital?
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what happened was a national disgrace. it was an effort to disrupt one of the core functions of our constitutional government. the peaceful transfer of power, those are serious questions but it can't be resolved by a soviet style show trial. that is an adversarial process where both sides choose the representation. that is the democratic process and that is not what is unfolding. for the first time in the history of our institution. it has arranged a situation where one side is being heard.
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that is a travesty to the process, there are very serious issues that arise from january 6 that do need to be addressed. host: the vice president will be the focus of today's history. what are you views on the stance he took on that day? guest: he was absolutely right. on january 6 i had an op-ed piece in the washington times the congress had no authority to reject constitutionally cast electoral votes. think about it this way, under our constitution, if no candidate gets a majority of electoral votes, if the house refuses to count ballots, there is no point to electoral college. if that power actually exists in our constitution, the house gets
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to decide the president every four years. that is extremely dangerous. there is an 1860's law that asserts that authority. it is wrong and is never been asserted in court. the congress has no such authority. it cannot have the authority of the constitution is to work as designed. host: this is manuel from california. caller: everything this individual is saying is such bs. the republican party passed taxes for the rich and stole money from the taxpayers allowing corporations to pay zero taxes with billions of
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dollars of profits. the republican party supports trump. trump kept the interest rates down. inflation was obviously going to happen. host: we lost our collar there. aller. guest: we started printing billions of dollars to pay for biden spending spree. that should be fairly clear. republicans tax cuts, the data is quite different. the republican tax cuts produced more revenues after the cuts, corporate revenues are at an
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all-time high. the economy expanded rapidly as a result. it was not just the taxes, it was the biggest regulatory rollback in american history. those policies work. john f. kennedy did the same thing. bill clinton did it during his administration. harry truman did it during his administration. reduce the burdens on the economy, the economy expands. host: the trillions of dollars of spending has happened in terms of the covid relief spending both under president trump and under president biden, what is the legacy of that spending that it save the economy during covid or that it led us to this point of high
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inflation? guest: quite clearly the latter because we are living through it now. it did in norma's damage to the economy. they did not slow the spread of the virus. we are now seeing study after study that showed that areas that mandated the mask. you know that areas that received attacks that never close their schools, but if we had sweden's covid death rate in the united states, there would be 430 7000 fewer dead americans. the covid lockdowns did not work from a public health standpoint.
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those states that did not lock down have a booming economy, but those that did lock down are still struggling. this is not complicated stuff. these policies have specific effects. let's stop imposing policies that have proven time and again don't work. host: let's go to our republican line, alan you are on. caller: gun crimes have gone downstate wide. the other point i want to make is about january 6. whatever's going on, i live in georgia.
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after the investigations, only four people signatures were verified. everybody who was on that film should have been brought into court. 3% of signatures is not conclusive. it is a downright shame. i have never seen voting stop and poll workers sent home. if my boss tells me not to do something and i am, on camera doing something that is wrong. guest: the constitution is very clear. the president is chosen and
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established by state legislatures. under the laws of that state, electors are state to the capital where they count those ballots. that issue has already been settled. the challenges need to the maid at the state level. there were some federal issues involved. we had several states that change their election laws of the last minute. by administrative fiat that were challenged by the supreme court. electoral pallets that were sent to the congress were certified to individual states, that satisfies the requirements of the constitution. to the extent that fraud is suspected, that has to be policed by the individual states
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under the process by each individual state. host: paul in taxes, no ahead with your comment or question. caller: i have a question for the gentleman. going to covid, a lot of republicans even deny there was such a thing and i think restriction slowed it down. guest: i'm not a republican that said covid didn't exist. i think the measures that were taken were not only ineffective towards the virus, they were effective it destroying the environment. caller: another quick comment, president trump was the one who came out and said that every american should have $2000 and
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that is when all of this spending took place. he wanted his name on the checks. guest: i can't disagree with you. the trump administration made some mistakes. that was at the beginning of the outbreak. the administration came quickly to the conclusion that these lockdowns were an obstruction. host: tom mcclintock thank you for being with us. coming up, we will have mark takano and his legislation to help combat veteran suicide. your calls and comments coming out. >> american history tv saturdays
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house veteran affairs community. mark takano welcome to washington journal. host: let me get your opinion on the federal reserve raising its rates to battle inflation. guest: they have to make a call on whatever they see on inflation said again. it is dramatic, incisive action. we will see if it works. we are seeing inflation occur in all of the industrialized nations and it is the outgrowth of 2.5 years of the pandemic and supply chains being twisted.
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vladimir putin has a big role to play and terms of global oil prices and i have to say, the oil companies are also not being good actors right now. they are taking advantage of this moment and using their market power to profiteer. they are not using the oil leases that they have and they are always talking about needing more oil leases and it is not true. host: recently the house passed, following the mass shootings in buffalo and uvalde, d protecting our children act passed in the house, what are
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you hearing from that bill? are there elements you think you could support? guest: i was with keeping our promise in the group from newtown, i was just at their charity dinner last night. i was with senator murphy and he was working very hard on a compromise package for gun safety that was announced, a bipartisan framework out of the senate. it was far more narrow than the robust bill we passed out of the house. it passed with overwhelming support out of the house with strong support with some
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republican members, nearly every democratic member, republican members in the house are still resistant to gun safety legislation. what am i hearing? the main elements of interest to me that are significant are the efforts to do what is called the extreme circumstances, to allow law enforcement, or the government to intervene when family members or other people
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around a very disturbed individual call in for that intervention when they notice a certain individual is having certain issues. they know that they have weapons , i think it is very common sense that we need ways in which to intervene in an emergency manner when someone has firearms. i think the other element that is on the table is raising the age at which you can legally purchase sometimes of weapons, certain types of assault weapons. i think the other point is increasing background checks. there's a certain amount of
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time, a pause that you put on a gun purchase. a few days can make a difference in terms of getting past and impulse, or some kind of angry moment an individual is going through. that can save lives. this is where we are right now. host: mark takano is our guest. also the chair of the house veterans affairs committee. we welcome your comments. (202) 748-8001 is the line for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, and for independents and all others (202) 748-8002.
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tell us about your legislation, the strong veterans act for 2022. tell us what that would do. guest: it is a bipartisan bill, every element of it has been negotiated with our senate colleagues. we have republican bills that are incorporated in it, we have democrat bills. we are improving the workforce, increasing the number of providers who can provide health care. there is a shortage of mental health care providers across the spectrum we are talking about psychiatrists, social workers, outreach workers, we want to ramp that up.
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we look at how we can increase our ability to reach our underserved veterans. whether it is our native american veterans who often live in difficult places to reach. it specifically stipulates that we will provide resources to outreach to population like our native americans. we will increase the number of outreach counselors and these are people who our veterans.
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we select veterans who are in a note propria place. they have often dealt with the same issues to the veterans who are seeking help. they have gone through these things and of out the other side. it is reported to me directly by veterans through outreach groups that this is an essential program because these outreach programs are relatable and it works. they are racially diverse, and they have the credibility
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themselves. the strong act as a number of things that are going to enhance our ability to offer mental health support to our veterans nationwide. host: how soon will you be able to get it to the house floor? guest: it is actually coming up next week. i do want to mention one more thing. it expands vet center access for family members of veterans who died by suicide. the children, stepchildren, spouse, surviving members of the family. we are expanding access to the use of that center -- vet cen ters. the bill has a lot of
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good stuff in it. host: jeff from virginia on our democrats line. caller: good morning. i want to applaud the chairman for the work on the suicide issue. that is an issue dear to my heart. regarding inflation, i heard there's a lot of talk about forgiving student loan debts. i agree with the principles behind it. i know college is unaffordable for a lot of people. when you look at a successful government program like the g.i. bill, is there any talk in congress about public service? if you serve your country for like 2, 3, four years is that a gateway to college education?
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has there been any talk in congress about that? some way to expand the g.i. bill to make college education more affordable? guest: i have to tell you i don't see expanding national service or the expanding the g.i. bill on serious footing. i can tell you that i have been long interested personally and i also serve on the education and labor committee. i think most americans like the idea of some sort of exchange, the idea that we provide a
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higher education but there is something we expect back from everybody. i go along with the idea of some sort of expanded g.i. bill opportunity. there are so many different ways that we can offer expanded service. beyond military service, i am concerned about making sure that we are able to recruit the best people into the military. we have an amazing all volunteer military force. i was just with the military delegation to north africa, poland and lithuania. i had a chance to be with a tank unit, the bradley vehicles are
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not tanks, i sat in the tank commander seat and had a deep insight into how highly skilled -- people were able to figure out the coordinates and fire off missiles. we need really good people to be in our military. we need to make sure the g.i. bill really works for people, reputable universities and
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training opportunities are made available. i do believe that we could extend it. host: let's go to jay and walnut, mississippi. on the independent line. caller: my question is involving inflation. i think one of the major factors that is fueling inflation is fuel prices. i know y'all are trying to get something through the house and the oil companies are price gouging. would it be possible to put a bill through the house to put an end on the speculation of oil
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and if you could get something passed it could drop the fuel prices drastically? guest: i agree with you that the price of oil and oil prices and fuel prices specifically fossil fuel is a major driver of inflation. that is also related to fertilizer and food costs so people are experiencing food costs rising and fertilizer is a energy intensive product. transporting that fuel, i would have to take a look at your proposal about speculation.
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if there is a way to deal with that. i will have some conversations with my colleagues in financial services. your idea is intriguing. i think the fact that you are looking at this as a solution it is not about the availability, the oil companies have oil leases that they are not drilling on now. any conversation about digging on oil leases is wrong. the pipeline from canada, that was not built or would not have been completed for a couple of years even if it was approved.
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all this other talk is distraction from the fact that oil companies are making huge, huge profits as we speak and it doesn't seem to be that they are getting with the current program. ordinary americans are suffering. host: let's hear from bill in silver springs, maryland. on the democrats line. caller: i want to talk about infrastructure. they had money put in for hospitals but none for veterans hospitals. there is no money for the veterans hospital here. the elevators are out.
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i am a disabled vet. i can't get up those stairs. the current elevators that they are utilizing, can they put money to fix these veterans hospitals? most times they don't even have places to hang your coats in the bathrooms or when you get an appointment in the doctor's office. dealing with suicide, not that i am crazy. the situation is you have to wait for months in order to get an appointment if you want to a psychiatrist. in terms of what we are thinking, it will drive you crazy.
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i called the congress people and talking with the offices and representatives about the possibility of putting money into that bill before it got past about veterans as well. host: i will let you go there but over to you, congressman. guest: you are absolutely right, we have some v.a. facilities that have not been updated since world war ii. we had $20 billion slated in the build back better legislation and it was the most popular provision within build back better. americans when they were asked about all the different elements of build back better upgrading veterans hospitals was near number one or close to number
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one. it pulled off the charts. --it polled off the charts. you need close to $100 million to address all of these different medical facilities across the country's. some of these medical centers need to be replaced with something else. we need to open medical centers and other places. this is the next big thing on my agenda is to deal with the infrastructure issue. the pandemic also taught us that we need reserve places for surge capacity when the emergency crew
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is overwhelmed. we need to address the second thing about mental health and access and wait times. the strong act that we are going to pass on a bipartisan basis, we will take some modest steps to increase the number of mental health options and providers. also, i had a provision in the build back better act that would've increased our mental health options. we would've increased our mental health workers whether it was inside the v.a. or outside the v.a.. president biden has made increasing mental health care part of its unity agenda. i am also hopeful that there is a part of the package that senator murphy is negotiating
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with gun safety that there will be a portion negotiated for increased mental health care. that agenda, the unity agenda announced at the state of the union address, we wanted to increase mental health care access especially for teenagers. it would have a tremendous positive consequence for our veterans who needed more timely access to health care. host: the u.s. house coming in in the next couple of minutes. they will be dealing with increasing fuel cost. let's get to concorde, new hampshire. caller: first off, i want to
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thank you for your support for the brandon act. thank you, i am extremely grateful for this counseling. it is the best mental health counseling i've ever had in my life. i have an issue with the suicide that i need to bring up. we need the military to quit lying to families and classifying everything is a suicide. there are suicides in the military. there are also a lot of murders in the military. i know families who have fought tooth and nail to get records. i could not even get my brothers
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records. i am asking for a little bit more of public disclosure and honesty from the military chain of command. host: let's get to congressman takano. guest: i will certainly look into this. i am disturbed by the claim that you made. i will definitely have my staff look into this issue some more. host: i went at ask about this issue from the new york times. congressman mark takano has talked about a four day work week. guest: it would simply allow people who are covered under the fair labor standard act, they
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are able to earn over time pay after 32 hours of work. it is part of a larger conversation i hope to ignite about changing the norms. how many professionals actually work a full day on friday? how many people are asking employers to keep the flexibility that they started to get under the pandemic? the pandemic change a lot of ways in which we do things and we learned we could still do things and still be productive and be more flexible. the four-day workweek would increase our work/life balance. it would help people manage their families and care for elders better.
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