us to talk about their programs focusing on black history, culture, and politics. that, plus your calls, host: for, we will be talking about politics and taking your calls. two stories are dominating the news cycle this morning. the economy and the jobs report that came out yesterday, the senate being in session to work on their climate change, spending bill. we are talking about money this morning. we wanted to get a read on your

situation. what has the last year been like for you? is your financial situation better off, worse off, the same eared you can see the numbers there on your screen. (202) 748-8001 if you are worse off. if you want to send a text message, (202) 748-8003. please include your city and first name. you can see facebook, twitter, instagram. that is our address.

the front page of the wall street journal this morning has the story about the jobs report, hiring regains jobs lost since 2020. the jobs recovery took nearly 2.5 years and included a stretch when payrolls grew faster than during any other person -- post-world war ii time. the unemployment rate dropped to 3.5% in july. that's according to the labor department. labor force participation, the share of adults working to down to 62 point 1% in july from 62.2% a month earlier. the economy has recovered all the jobs that lost since 2020. there are 623 thousand fewer people in the workforce, factor

that is pushed up wages due to demand. the president spoke about the jobs report yesterday at the white house. >> 528,000 jobs were added to the employment. 528,000 jobs. we have nearly doubled what -- we are nearly at 10 million jobs since i took office. that's the fastest job growth in history. today, we match the lowest unemployment in the last 50 years. 3.5%. today, there are more people working in america than before the pandemic began. there are more people working in america than at any point in history. what we also see is something that a few years ago many experts said was impossible.

revitalization of american manufacturing. we've created 642,000 american jobs in america. it's the fastest job recovering it since the 50's. some people may have given up on american manufacturing. that's why i made it make it in america, the cornerstone of my economic plan. the report proves make it in america isn't just a slogan, it's reality. host: that's what the president had to say about the economic report that came out yesterday. that's on the macro level. on the personal level, what is it like for you? (202) 748-8000 for those of you who are better off.

for those of you who are worse off, (202) 748-8001. the wall street journal, the other economic story in the news, democrats near climate will vote. the send is going to be in all week voting on this bill. i spoke out on this bill.

>> the people i'm closest to, my family and friends, they put their face in their hands and they asked me what the hell is joe biden doing? what the hell is joe biden doing it? they ask why does joe biden

insist on throwing gasoline on this inflation fire. white is he want to destroy our jobs. we realize raising taxes on corporations is going to destroy manufacturing jobs. wichita, kansas is the aerospace capital of the world. we make small airplanes. we have a lot of small agriculture that make tractors how that is going to lose jobs because of this tax. why the hell does joe biden want to drive prices up. why does he want to destroy the economy? they ask me a tough question, why would we get to show tatham tax breaks to one industry but

drive others out of the united states. i don't have answers to these questions. i do have an assessment. joe biden is reactionary. he's never proactive. he creates a crisis and then solves that with more crisis. it's a stupid decision. host: that was senator marshall talking about macro economics. we want to hear about your personal situation. middleton is calling from west virginia. you say it's been about the same. caller: good morning. i'm tired of listening to you put the bs from the republicans on. when you bring the subject up,

you always bring on a republican it to say bad things about it. host: what kind of work do you do? caller: i'm a retired steelworker. host: host: have you seen any effects from inflation? caller: it doesn't bother me. thank you for calling in. host: you say you are worse off. why is that? caller: inflation has taken away from our income on a monthly basis. even though jobs may be increasing or the number of total jobs, i only have one job and one paycheck. it's not going this far as it did. host: what do you think a solution is? maybe the bill the democrats are

working on the does raise taxes and lowers costs in medicare? caller: i don't know all the details of that. it's hard to follow what the details are. i do know that in terms of our policy related to fuel and energy and how we handle that aspect of our economy, it seems as though the biden administration has done a poor job in helping that improve. host: joel is calling in from texas. caller: just north of houston. host: what is your economic situation like? caller: it's not terribly bad. every one of us is infected --

affected by inflation. it is 9% less valuable than it was. it is weaker than it was when this administration took office. the question on its face, whether they think they are affected or not. host: what changes have you made? in your spending? caller: i drive less a bit. i don't like paying five dollars for gas. i do want to associate myself with the second collar. you must be doing something right. i get frustrated and say it's

got a leftist slant. the first guy calls and says republicans. i think c-span overall is great. i've been watching since 1979. brian lamb it needs to have a monument built to limit. host: what do you do in texas? caller: i'm a consultant, i/o chemical. nutritional supplements and things of that nature. host: dave is calling in from pennsylvania. what is your personal financial situation? caller: it's pretty stable. my kids graduated from college without much debt. they are doing pretty good. as an air force veteran, this

inflation thing, life is about perception. if you listen to negativity all day long, that is your perception. when we look around the world, there are a lot of companies that are worse than us. in this exact same recession. the price of everything is up everywhere. a lot of our industries were shut down during the pandemic. we lost a couple of refineries during the pandemic. they were sitting on stores because people weren't going anywhere. now everybody is going everywhere, they are going to get the most for their product.

these companies are making billions in profits. if they have to pay a little bit more to get everybody back where we should be, what is wrong with that? host: is there a lot of work for you in the construction industry? what is your outlook on the economy going forward? caller: we are going to be fine. i am 63 years old. i've seen this before. i've seen this in the bush era. the last recession with the debacle from george bush into the obama years, the financial sector got a bailout. the common man didn't. main street didn't.

now he's trying to give us something by having the guys pay some of that back so we can have our services don't break us. we can't have women with small children on food stamps when they need it. it's like we are always ready to pound on one guy in the white house whether he's a d or an art. -- r. the economy has billions of different pieces. he wants to choose who he thinks everybody should be mad at. we are in this together. host: is there a lot of work in the construction industry? caller: yes. there is. that shows a lot. we have a lot of warehouses being built. host: thank you for your time.

back to the wall street journal and the senate bill. you can watch the senate on c-span 2. according to this article in the wall street journal:

george in pennsylvania. what is your financial situation? caller: i am retired. i am 72. everything is getting worse. i was living in florida. my rent kept going up. i tried to get an apartment in florida.

florida is becoming very populated. everything is going up unbelievably. i came back up here to pennsylvania. apartments and houses are a little bit cheaper, not a lot. now food it keeps going up. my pay isn't going up. i'm still getting the same amount from social security. i used to make a lot of money. nobody is interested in watches as much used to. the material houses have closed down. host: how do you think that situation can be changed or improved? caller: they will spend money on things like getting clocks and

watches fixed again. they've got to do something about these conglomerates taking all these houses just to rent them out as a higher price. we used to have laws against monopolies. now, it's like whatever. it's ok. it is hurting me. host: bruce in colorado springs. what has the last year than like? caller: the only thing that changed was last year they went up on our rent by $300. you just adjust your budget. that's my belief.

you have to adjust to what is going on economically. even though we went up on rent, we might've taken away a few things. in colorado, we've got plenty of mountains to go hiking. i'm not going to cherry pick. we are all individuals. in my state, in colorado we ended up garnering a surplus. i don't know all the details. i got a $750 check back. if you filed jointly, you're going to get $1500 back. i don't mean to knock anybody. you adjust your budget. i hear a lot of people say we don't need government intrusion.

when it comes to gas, biden is not supposed to be your financial planner. it annoys me. maybe get rid of some things or change some things if you can't feed your family. the prices here aren't that bad. things have gone up a little bit. you just have to adjust your budget and your income until everything settles down a. like that of the guy was saying, quick cherry picking and trying to say it is biden's fault. if you can't drink champagne, you've only got beer money. host: what do you do in colorado springs? caller: i would rather not say. my job is not bad.

i'm still trying to get raises. you adjust. you adjust your budget. host: will is in north carolina. caller: it's been pretty good. i think the economy is all right. i've gotten a few raises in prices. we just came out of a pandemic. these guys are acting like -- half the country was shut down for two years. i've got a daughter that just came out of college. she got a job right off the bat. i don't know anybody that wants to work and can't find work. i'm listening to these republicans who want to cut social security. these guys are something else. they want to take away our

rights, a woman's right. i'm just saying it, these are the things you are fighting against. my taxes come out of might check. these rich guys don't pay taxes. then they get these perks. i forget the names of some of these people, they get income tax breaks. if you want to job, you've got one. i think biden is doing a heckuva job. he took over when half was going broke and we didn't have anybody working. half the country was working at home. from what we've come through to where we are at, we are doing good. host: thank you for calling in. from the hill publication,

democrats are bracing for a grueling weekend in the hopes of passing their economic bill known as the inflation reduction act. that is from the hill this morning. john is next in georgia.

good morning. when you look at your personal situation, what do you find? caller: i don't worry about anything. a lot of people that went to sleep last night didn't wake up this morning. put your big boy pants on and keep moving. what you going to do about it? corporate america runs everything. it has nothing to do with biden or trump. it's all about the money. if you don't have enough money, there are plenty of jobs. stop worrying about what the politicians do. there's nothing you can do about it. are you retired? i don't have any problems. the problem is waking up the

next day. host: that was john in hampton it, georgia. this is stephen in maine. tell us about your situation and how it has improved or gotten worse. are you with us? you've got to turn down the volume of your tv. listen on the telephone. host: catherine in illinois. please tell us about your economic situation. caller: good morning. my situation is about the same. i lost my husband. that's ok, i'm recovering.

there was a homeless couple and i brought them into my home. they've been here for about a week. they have acute little three-year-old. they are great parents. something puzzles me that they are not out trying to find jobs. i'm 75. i get emails, please come work for me. i could get a job in a second. i don't know why young people today in their 20's and 30's don't have that i've got to get a job to support my family. it puzzles me. they treat me well. they are good. i don't charge them a penny. i make -- i want to help them.

that's my observation. that's what i'm doing with my life today. thank you. host: and is in arizona. caller: i am in phoenix, the epicenter of the upcoming battle. thank you for c-span. i've been watching for many years. people say this administration, come on it. the whole world is experiencing inflation. we all had a covid. there is a war going on that is made gas prices go up. i was listening to katie porter. this puts the pieces together on the revenue side and the spending side in a way that is

very balanced. it's going to make investments in energy security and health care. it is going to raise revenue by creating a more fair tax code which will bring down the deficit. we are going to be much better off. thank heavens we have a sane president. i am very inspired by republicans and democrats working together for democracy. you don't get that anywhere else. that little bubble where people come in, we've got both parties working to make democracy happen. it might be early to ask if people are better off. maybe in a year, asked that again and you might get a better idea. host: have you changed any of

your habits? caller: no. i am retired. i do part-time work. i drive for uber. i do what i can. i haven't had to change my economic habits. everything is more expensive. my savings have gone down a bit. overall, because of the outlook for the future is bright, i'm looking forward to what's going to happen. host: andrew, what is your situation? caller: i'm a lot better off. i am retired. i receive a pension. i have to tell you, our cost of living for 2022 was 5.9%.

i don't know what some of these republicans that call are talking about. with inflation at 9%, the adjustment for 2023 is looking close to 10%. that's a two-year pay raise for me of over $400 a month. gas is going down. the gas station by my house, it is $3.04 per gallon. the fed wants to raise interest rates to bring this down. this is going to be under control in the short term. people that are 65 and older that receive medicare are going to get that rebate in their medicare. that is going to go down.

the alzheimer's drug that was so expensive people are going to get a refund. all of the whining and crying that i hear from the republicans, i hear that when you showed cpac. it's these same talking points. i live in texas. my neighbors are not whining. inflation is not bothering them. we are dealing with it. people shop at grocery stores. they get discounts. they get rewards. all this doom and gloom constantly you hear from the republican party, i don't get it. i think they are jealous that joe biden is doing a great job. they want to see the country

fail. host: thank. the lead story of the washington post, job growth sores. inside that story:

it goes on to say: that again is from the washington post. randy is up next in louisiana. where in louisiana? caller: i live close to baton rouge. i am definitely worse off because when i go to the store, i get less and less and spend

more money. i am definitely worse off. i'm not the only one. it's very noticeable to me. host: when it comes to economic policies, what would you like to see done? caller: it would be fantastic to be energy independent like we used to be. it would be fantastic to have the drilling increase and more supply. not having to depend on saudi arabia or anywhere else. host: thank you for calling in. jane is in atlanta. good morning to you. caller: this is jane. this is my first time calling in. i think our situation is about

the same for living. i got my increase in social security. gas is more expensive at this point, we all know why. we don't need to start pointing fingers. what needs to stop is the constant chatter and finger-pointing. this is the economy in the world. we have to work through it like we did for centuries. host: thank you for calling in. welcome to the program. matt is in dallas. you are on the air. caller: good morning. it's a pleasure to see you. i am so used to seeing you on book tv. i would have to say better off. i would say for the past seven

years, i've been self-employed since 2015. i had $23 in my bank account. my income has steadily increased. when you are self-employed, you control your destiny. you control your costs. i have probably benefited from inflation. host: what do you do? caller: i do various things. i'm similar to the lady earlier. i sell health insurance. i'm a ride-share driver. when you are self-employed, you can control your destiny. you control your income coming in. the economy benefited me. people move to the dallas area. that provides business opportunity. host: matt did mention book tv. i will take this promotional

opportunity. part of it will be on c-span. the senate will be in session. tomorrow, we will do our monthly in-depth program. the guest will be larry elder. that begins at noon. john is in boston. what is your economic situation like? caller: you just had a great interview. i am in my 70's. i worked up until i was 72. my situation, i'm not complaining. i don't go republican or democrat. loyal americans, you take the presidents as they come. one president can do a good job, and not get the credit for.

whatever the case. my situation, i'm on so security. i had a pretty good life. i lost some money into thousand eight. my pension was in the stock market. everything changed. i live on social security, which is about $26,000 a year. in the past year, you adjust to what your income is. i will give you an example. what i paid for, a package of chicken, i get chicken legs that used to be four dollars, now it's eight dollars.

you adjust. instead of buying half a dozen nannies, i buy three bananas. i cut them in half. you make do with what you have and you don't complain, i'm not going to curse any president that we have. we should be proud americans. just make the adjustments. i can go on and on. my home that i have, i couldn't afford to keep the home. i turned it over to my son. they pay really high real estate taxes in boston. they are all working. they are all good americans, good citizens. i love your program. host: thank you for calling.

the front page of the new york times this morning:

that is part of what is going to be debated in the senate. that will be live on c-span 2. stuart, virginia. what is your situation like? caller: it is a little better. i voted for bush back in that time when he was running.

he probably treated me worse than anybody. probably the worst president i've seen. that was tough times for me. i voted for obama. things didn't change much. i voted for obama twice actually. then, i voted for trump. i'm an independent voter. i vote by the person. trump got me in pretty good shape. he was the first president to give me anything with the stimulus check. biden, i think he messed up to start with. i think things are working out now. i'm torn between whether to vote

for republican or democrat this time. i will probably vote republican during the midterms. i will probably -- i don't know who i will vote for president. i'm afraid of trump runs, i'm afraid the riots and the burnings and the looting and the killings, i'm afraid of all that. host: before we go too far off the topic, we will leave it there. we are talking about your personal economic situation. we have some big economic news cycle. that is kind of where we are focused this morning. are you better off or worse off

for the same. before we go back to your calls, i want to report some stories. democrats expected to remove iowa from traditional leadoff spot in the 2024 campaign.

that is a fox 5 new york report. this is from the new republic. the democrats unexpectedly have some momentum is what they write.

if i could turn the page, we will read a couple of lines from it. that's just a little bit from the new republic. dan newhouse who voted to impeach trump advances in the washington primary. there were three members of

congress who were primary. peter meyer lost in michigan. one race is still to be called. let's go back to your calls. let's talk to linda in brooklyn. good morning to you. what is your situation like? caller: it is worse. i don't blame any political person. i shouldn't be broke. i shouldn't be having an eviction looming over my head. i need a team of attorneys. eviction shouldn't be a crime.

it's a post trauma problem. especially in new york state, something has to be done about this. host: i'm sorry about your personal situation. let's hear from christian in phoenix. caller: when i take a look at the gas prices, it's obvious that the prices are soaring. to respond to the constant deflection i keep hearing, joe biden did it has nothing to do with ukraine. many countries do not have inflation.

there are many countries that do not have inflation. above the united states, that have higher inflation these countries -- this idea that every single country is the same is totally wrong. host: let's talk about your personal situation. telus why you are worse off. caller: it's because of the oil and gas prices. you can deflect all you want from what joe biden's executive orders on leases and making excuses for him.

that has had a direct effect on our entire economy. and then we gloss over the mandates that totally decimated every single part of our economy, host: ok. i think we got the point. senate candidate in colorado will not back president trump in 2024. the republican nominee said that he hopes neither president biden nor former president trump runs in 2024. i hope trump doesn't run, i don't want to see him as president. he's a republican. he went on to say i think a lot of people are ready to move forward. i wouldn't support him running again.

that is a political story out of colorado. a political story out of dallas this morning -- this weekend. cpac has been going on. president trump will be speaking at the conservative political actual and conference in dallas. our coverage starts at 4:45 p.m. eastern. former president trump is expected to speak. you can watch on our c-span now app, which is our free mobile video app. or anytime online at c-span.org. indian trail, north carolina. good morning to you. what is your situation like? caller: thank you for the

opportunity to speak with you. thank you for that. my situation is better. i am an immigrant who came here 20 years ago. with regard to my personal, i think it's really good. what people are missing is inflation. what this does is cut the cost. i invested money -- i bought an electric vehicle. i don't go to the gas station as often. i charge my card with just electricity. it's just over six dollars compared to filling it up.

the point i am trying to make, people have the opportunity to choose the electric vehicles. that also helps the climate. host: one of the issues of the bill being debated this weekend is subsidies for electric vehicles. do you think people should get subsidies for buying electric vehicles? caller: yes. at the end of the day, if you look at the micro, every action has a reaction. if you put out carbon, the cost. that will drive your energy. if you're dependent on oil all

along, with electric vehicles you don't. you can also install solar panels. host: that was north carolina. mark is in tampa. good morning to you. caller: my situation has been about the same. i think we might start seeing an upward trend. i don't hear the republicans mentioning that gas prices have dropped for the past 52 days in a row. they've gone down considerably. that's a good thing. i'm not sure why the republicans would be against placing caps on a drugs, allowing that a care to negotiate drug prices. 77% of americans are in favor of

that. the bill reduces the federal budget. it gets these corporations that were pain zero tax -- pain zero tax, it makes a 50% minimum. -- 15% minimum. people should be in favor of having these big corporations pay their fair share. i think she is going to sign on to it. she wanted to keep that carried interest loophole, which only her and the republicans are in favor. that protects the richest hedge fund managers. they pay a lower tax than their secretaries pay. that's the tax that helps out hedge fund managers who are rich. i think things are going to

start looking up, democrats are trying to do something about it. host: kevin in ohio, please give us your situation. caller: i've been on disability for the last two years. i had my spine fused because i had a crack in my vertebrae. i had cancer twice. everything is getting worse because it cost more. everything went up. that's because of these resellers. host: thank you, kevin. we have two hours left on the washington journal. we've got some guests coming up. we have some podcasters a little bit later. coming up next, the washington times. he has a history as it happens

podcast. we will be talking about current events and history with him and taking your calls as well. that is coming up next. >> the senate will be in session this weekend. because of our commitment to caring the senate live, american history tv and book tv will be interrupted. we will assume our regular programming whenever the senate is not in session. weekends bring you book tv, featuring leading authors. author and columnist larry elder

is our guest on in-depth, discussing political correctness and racial politics. he's the author of several books. dan pfeiffer discusses his book battling the big lie, his thoughts on how to fight political disinformation. find a full schedule on our program guide. now available at the c-span shop c-span's 2022 directory. go there today. with contact information on every member of congress and contact

information for the cabinet. scan the code with your smart. every purchase supports c-span's nonprofit operation. there are lots of places to get political information. only at c-span do you get it straight from the source. no matter where you are from, or where you stand on the issues. c-span is america's network. unfiltered, unbiased, word for word. if it happens here, or here, or anywhere that matters, america is watching on c-span. powered by cable. "washington journal," continues. host: martin di caro from the new york times, what you do for a living? guest: i talk and i ask a lot of questions.

i originated a podcast in the last few years and i needed and opportunity to do it. the podcast is "history as it happens" out of the washington times. it comes out every tuesday and thursday. we are taking a look at current events through a historical lens. or when something happens in the news it may reevaluate a past event. the inspiration for this was we just need more historical thinking. i am not a historian myself but i interview historians and i was able to talk some of the best from the u.s. and the united kingdom. on things like the war in ukraine. what i mean by historical thinking, all of us have been exhausted by the day-to-day new cycle. more than that, i wanted to take a step back from the day-to-day

headlines after being a b reporter and a day-to-day reporter for 20 years in radio. i wanted to take a step back from the day-to-day headlines and offer a little more perspective. everything happening today originates from something. so many americans are overwhelmed by the new cycle. sometimes we need to take a breath and realize things are not as awful as they seem. our country has been through a lot. we managed to come out of it better most of the time. also a book by a great princeton historian, he read a book called "the age of reagan he talked about the need to reanalyze what is happening now.

in the 1980's, the early 1990's, the end of the cold war, the expansion of nato after 1989. all of those things are in the news right now. his book about reagan's presidency that includes the clinton years. i thought it was very timely. we are living in history. host: on our american history tv channel we call history in the news and you call it history as it happens. we have been discussing economics and what the senate is doing in the job support. how would you approach something like that on your podcast? guest: most of my guests are historians, i had a former fed member on. he was a skeptic of the bernanke 0% interest rates, to talk about

the 1970's. that is when he got his start. i have done a couple of episodes about the 1970's. the most recent time when american society was beset by these types of problems. inflation and the steps taken that curb their did not curb inflation. paul volcker raised interest rates to get the country out of inflation during reagan's first term. which was not going well, it took a few years for interest rates that come down in the economy took off. i am working on a podcast coming out in the next couple of weeks on the carter years. i think a lot of people can relate to the carter years. there are a lot of differences between carter and biden. there has already been talked about biden being a one term

president, stagflation, the sense that policy is adrift. we had the withdraw from afghanistan in 20 years of war after afghanistan. i think there are some important parallels there. i always make sure to talk about the differences. history does not repeat itself but it does rhyme. host: martin di caro you talked about sean valenz and how history needs to be reported now and not waited on. is it too early to look back at the trump years? guest: i think so yeah. it takes time for documents to become available to scholars. certainly we can analyze the trump years. we are not blind. we saw what happened on january

6. i don't think it will age well. as more emotions calm, when you are in the moment it is hard to be dispassionate. as time goes on we will look at that and think, oh boy, i think people will change their minds. in some ways yes, you don't know everything yet. also with time, we know that presidents reputations improver don't improve. harry truman was not all that popular in the years immediately after his presidency. republicans in 1952 ran on cleaning up the mess in washington. truman is now considered to have been a successful president given the array of problems he took on after roosevelt's death. i will say yes and no, it is too

early. we also have common sense. host: going back to truman, how much influence do you think david mccullough's book had on improving truman's opinion? guest: it is an important corrective. i just did an episode about grant. it is its 200th birthday and we are having this reckoning on race. we had the 1690 project, black lives matter. there is this idea that you are either a racist or antiracist. but abraham lincoln and ulysses s grant don't fit into a neat category. there was an essay in the national review about how rant was the forgotten president and

a civil rights president. grant's reputation has been rehabbed for the last generation after a century where he was denigrated by professional historians. i think he got a raw deal. host: you get an idea of what we will you talking about with martin di caro and his "history as it happens" podcast. we will be taking your phone calls in a minute. (202) 748-8001 four republicans, (202) 748-8000 four democrats and (202) 748-8002 four independents. you can send a text message into (202) 748-8003. that is for text messages only. why a podcast?

why not a live radio show, why a podcast? host: i think you can do more with the podcast. you have more time to prepare it. if you are doing a weekly radio show that is different. if you do a daily call in show it is a different dynamic. this way, i can think about a subject, find the right guess, listen back to the interview. i can edit, i can do postproduction where i find archival audio. i do a set of of 10 minutes prior to the interview. i basically produce a radio program for a podcast. doing it that way allows me to do things differently than if i were doing a live radio show. as you know from taking calls here today. i think there is more production value and thought they can be

put into it. host: let's hear from some of our viewers. richard in new jersey on the democrats line. you are on with martin di caro. caller: good morning, history as it happens. which means we are looking at it right now as it is happening. i want to ask a quick question. several months ago, you talked about these historians, several months ago we had normal historians rate the president including 45. invariably, the consensus was 45 came in 44th or 45th in every category. we get these opinions from

bizarre world that president trump was the best president ever. i am asking you, do you agree with normal historians or the bizarre people? guest: some of these presidential rankings. they are flawed, imperfect. i did a couple of episodes around christmas time called rank the presidents to find presidential scholars and they believe that trump belongs at the bottom along with andrew buchanan and johnson. we never had a president before not accept the peaceful transfer of power and to try to undermine the electoral system. through a combination of public lies, propaganda, outright fraud. i don't think somebody's reputation improves from that. in fairness to trump if you want

to look at his record, some people would say, despite all of the other stuff he had some accomplishments on his record. i think we look back at nixon and say yes, he did some things with lasting importance. the epa nt he codified affirmative action. opening to china, imagine a world today without relationships with china. there is the good and the bad. to answer the collars question, i do think trump belongs in the bottom. in my podcast, i don't cater to anyone's feelings or opinions. if you want to hear that liberal or conservative, you can find it. i don't put too much of my own politics into the show. i want to hear what the experts

say. i don't shy away from the truth. i just told you where i thought trump landed historically. i am trying to do historical thinking. host: one of the historical figures you looked at was george wallace. guest: i think george wallace is understudied. underappreciated in the sense that we are living in a populist moment. the typical partisan lines, republican versus democrat don't fit as much as much as urban versus rural. establishment versus non-establishment. coastal elites versus middle america. these are generalizations and they sound cliche but we are living in a populist moment and donald trump he sensed that. he understood where the country was in 2015 and 2016 which is why his message resonated.

there was a crossover between bernie sanders voters who then voted for donald trump of the general election. right now, we are not dealing with fascism. we are not dealing with the why martin germany -- weimar germany. what happens when you think of george wallace? segregation. there were more aspects to his message about the ordinary fellow. he would give speeches and he would talk about the ordinary policeman, the farmer, the mailman. belittled by coastal elites. your values are being denigrated. you have been forgotten in economic globalization's. i would invite people to listen to that episode go online and find it on c-span's website in

the video archives and look for wallace's speeches. he gave up on segregation when the country had moved on. in the 1970's he was talking about different things. the most important thing about wallace, i told you i talked for a living. my sentences never find their endpoint. the most important thing about wallace is the politics of rage grievance. politics is about grievance, you can have a message about hope but you can also get people going on messages of events. ultimately, that is why he could not appeal to a majority. also, his racial ideals prevented him from becoming anything but a southern candidate. host: how many years did you spend in radio and where were you?

guest: all over the map. i am not that old but i did get into this business prior to the internet becoming a thing. there was no digital editing. you had to find small radio stations to cut your teeth. i bounced around the country. i worked in new jersey covering board of education meetings for $6.50 an hour. i moved to bellingham, washington which was a market so small it was not rated by arbitron. we were not even in the top 250 markets. sacramento, rhode island,

there was a small fire where hundreds of people were killed. my coverage of that help me get some notoriety in new york city. new york and now washington for the past 12 years. host: gary in indiana. caller: hello. the two quick points i want to make about george wallace. he also had the most electoral votes by third-party candidate. guest: he won five, six states in 1968. caller: two points i wanted say real quick. with history repeating itself, comparing bidens presidency to carters and the downturn of the economy. according to newsmax, the first

one who endorsed carter was senator biden. the second point i want to make is i want to look at the 1924 election -- 1824 election compared to the 2000 election. andrew johnson clearly one that. as far as 2000 and there were questions about gore getting ripped off thereto. those are two things i wanted to throw out there. host: let's see what martin di caro has to say. guest: we want to relitigate the 2000 election right now? i think he makes an important

point. the carter/biden thing is important to look at today. i don't think we will see a repeat of 1980. i am too young to remember this. i am not here to plug c-span's website but it is a great tool. i don't think we will see a repeat of that this year. as far as whether carter will run again? host: you mean mr. biden? guest: jimmy carter is not running again. whether president biden runs again. a political scientist, who i respect thinks that next spring biden will announce that he will not run for a second term.

things are looking better for him this past week. amazing how quickly politics can change. he can make an argument that i was the sane, stable bridge from trump and i think a lot of people will be ok with that. if we believe these polls, his approval rating is bad right now. beyond that, we have to talk about age as well. it happens to all of us. it is not a knock on him. he will be in the mid 80's by the time his second term ends. host: mike, good morning to you. caller: i just wanted to get your perspective on trump and this notion -- the first draft

of history is in the news? host: what is your take on president trump? caller: i don't think he is that bad. guest: can i ask you a question? do you believe he bears any responsibility for the january 6 attack on the capital or trying to steal the election. for instance, the georgia phone call where he called the secretary of state and told him to find 11,000 votes. how do you square that with his record? caller: absolutely not. if you listen to the entire tape with the georgia representative. guest: yes, i have. caller: it is not as drastic as it is pretrade in the media.

-- portrayed in the media. he was saying that there was potentially all these errors in the voting and define those votes where there were errors. host: we will let martin di caro talk now. guest: well, there were no errors. bill barr let him know that. if you listen to that phone call , he was making things up. it was kind of crazy if you listen to the whole phone call.

i would just ask my republican friends, how would you respond if that shoe were on the other foot? i would hope democrats would condemn that as well. we have to move past some of this partisanship. we are in the moment right now, passions are still pretty high. host: can you compare liz cheney to anyone in history at this point? guest: no, not off the top of my head. what is interesting about her case, she is a conservative republican on the outs of her party. republican and democratic parties have rich histories. they can take credit for doing quite a bit to help our country. both parties, talking about george wallace. he was a southern democrat, a

segregationist. that party was terrible on civil rights for half a century. i find it bizarre that in some corners of the republican party that liz cheney is no good anymore. don't we want a sane two-party system? whatever anyone thinks about the voting fraud charges, he still didn't except the election. host: how do you think senator pelosi will be regarded in history? guest: i think she is a brilliant tactician. this trip to taiwan was a mistake. historically speaking, the united states has made a commitment to china that it would stick to the one china policy.

i can't really answer your question about how she will be judged. probably as a successful speaker. the democrats will say that. host: henry from boston, a democrat. caller: my question is on presidents, harry truman, i had two older brothers who served in world war ii and another brother and i served in korea. my two older brothers served in a segregated military. i don't think harry truman got enough credit for desegregating the military. guest: good point. woodrow wilson, he desegregated the military and federal offices or read segregated ice should say. --re-segrated them i should say.

franklin roosevelt died, he had never even spoken to roosevelt more than a handful of times. world war ii is coming to an end. the cold war is about to start and then the korean war starts. what an array of difficulties. had we not had someone of truman's caliber, roosevelt knew he was dying and ran for a fourth term anyway. we lucked out with truman. his presidency was not perfect. i would encourage people seek out truman's inaugural address. every president since truman has sounded like truman. he talks about how in this post world war ii world, sharing our

know-how to keep the rest of the world out of communism. he knew that parts of the developing world found communism attractive. host: after the overturning of roe v. wade, did you look at that issue historically? guest: history of the right to privacy. i had a constitutional scholar from yale on to talk about this issue a couple of times and a historian from early american history to talk about abortion was commonplace in colonial america. there are a lot of layers to that story. there is the legal one. this is not just about constitutional scruples. whether the 14th amendment protects the right to privacy, and protects an abortion.

there is also a conservative religious movement that sought to end abortion on a federal level. i think a lot of young people are giving up on politics. philip schafly proved what is possible on the others. you can find her speeches online talking about this as well. after goldwater had lost, the conservative movement look like it was finished. we had the goldwater syndrome where a conservative could not win. many republicans supported planned parenthood under the population control movement. herbert walker bush supported

plan parenthood. phyllis schafly changed it to a conservative party. there is a lot of layers to the abortion policy. abortion is now in the states. we saw what happened in kansas. host: joe from tucson, you are on with the times martin di caro . caller: you said there martin and you want to p.r. my leg and tell me i am raining. you bring up january 6 but you don't bring up the summer of love where i watched day after day businesses being burned down and cops getting hurt. why don't you ask some of them people whether that was worse?

january 6 or the summer of love? does donald trump bear responsibility? what about maxine walters? people going to republicans and restaurants and spitting in their face. host: joe, i think you got your comparison. guest: i agree all of that behavior is disgraceful. i don't like to compare thing. the writing that took place in 2020 was regrettable in many democrats did not condemn that and strong enough terms. but as far as the first comment about peeing on his reign and telling him it's raining. i don't chastise trump supporters. trump sensed the moment and he

understood the feeling of the country and he keyed into it. he is right about the failure of our institutions. he was right about how nafta alienated so many people. i did a whole show about how democrats lost blue-collar labor . historically, that was democrats constituency. i understand that he is upset about the situation. i take a balanced approach about these things and i am keyed in to that issue. host: a recent podcast you did was called the declinist. i think all of the collars this morning, they would say the united states is in decline. how do you define decline? things don't seem to be going well right now.

although we had a great jobs report, polls have shown that people don't think the country is going in the right direction. a catholic university historian wrote about the rise of decline. he looked at given and his six volume history on the decline and fall of the roman empire. about signs of decline. one can be imperial overreach. have we been guilty of overreach since 9/11? we are still the most powerful military in the world. as our economy doing poorly right now? by some measures, but we are still the most powerful economy in the world. the point of his essay was whether the united states is in decline or not, we have the

power to do something about it. declinist attitudes make us blame the other side. it makes us not want to work with each other. it is a fatalistic attitude. there is nothing we can do about it. it makes us overvalued the problem instead of trying to prevent decline if in fact we are declining. host: you have been in this town for a while, what do you think when you hear politicians say at some point in history, this is the most important bill we have ever discussed. i remember this going back to senator hollings in 1986. guest: how about this being the most election in your lifetime every four years? that is impossible.

i think people tune out politicians. i hear a lot of resentment in these calls with the system. it is like the teacher in the charlie brown cartoon. you hear them speaking but it is the same old stuff. i don't really like any politician, and the moment i try to stay out of it. i try to be as nonpartisan as possible. host: patty from connecticut on the independent line. caller: i would like to say something about lis cheney she is going down as judas. nancy pelosi, her and her husband made a lot of money on insider trading. donald trump, he is our best

president. i believe he did win. i watched the results, i saw all of the things going on. host: put january 6 what happened at the capitol in perspective? caller: people are disgusted. you might see a worse one coming up. joe biden is ruining our country. it is disgusting. guest: i guess i will say i don't agree with her claim that trump won the election. we see this on the others as well. i have many liberal friends in washington, some of whom wanted to see the economy go down the tubes so trump would lose. we have become so bitter.

host: cindy from oregon, on the democrat line. caller: thank you very much for taking my call. i have done volunteer work for a very long time and i find that the best solution that i have found is bicameral. everyone working together for democracy. just maybe, we should include more democracy in our picture, worldwide and support all democracies. one of the things i would like to see is that we find a path in the middle and join together. just stop doing what we have been doing and begin a new beginning. guest: i think she is making a good case for civics education.

less watching cable news talking heads and more civil education. the purpose of government. i'm not sure that the purpose of democracy is unity. hopefully, it will mean tranquility. the point of democracy is to get things done through majority rule. i am not against partisanship, i am against extreme bipartisanship. host: have you ever done anything on the idea that we should all get along? guest: are there any moderates left? susan collins is considered a moderate. where have all the moderates gone? george h w bush, no ideologue.

less ideology, more pragmatism. i think people want that. to my earlier point about how the traditional partisan limestone explain -- partisan politics don't explain this moment. maybe we need more pragmatism if we want to get things done. host: another recent podcast you did was the wall of separation. guest: talk about a hot button issue. there are a few issues as poorly understood as the role of religion and our founding. there is this idea that the united states was founded as a christian nation. that is demonstrably false. european settlers were primarily

christian. even when we say christian, what are we talking about and the 18th century? there was an enormous diversity of theological thought. religion is back in the news because of the supreme court's decision on the maine decision to provide funding for religious schools. do any of the early disputes on church and state, the early republic, do they have any parallels to today? there were speeches about just

establishing - dis establishing religion. for people who want to get rid of the wall between the separation of church and state. does that mean the government can start taxing churches? my point is, that wall works both ways if you will. one last point, the important thing about church and state, instead of seeing it as a hindrance to religious freedom it guarantees religious freedom. host: do you ever compare the median environment to the media environment during the civil

war? guest: if you ask people if we have a partisan media they would say absolutely. i have always been a defender for the media against the whole liberal media. there is a partisan media ecosystem. i'm not even talking about the new york times or associated press. there is a total partisan ecosystem with outlets that are just committed to approaching things from one side of the story. in the 19th century, around the time of the civil war, all major newspaper were party organs and they were open about it. when you go back and read about certain newspapers chastising lincoln. those were democratic newspapers. early newspapers were all very viciously partisan.

we have a partisan news problem today but it is not as bad as it used to be. it used to be far worse. host: raul from miami, on the republican line. caller: good morning. it is a pleasure to hear from both of you. i wanted to make a reference to dicaro's conclusion that there was no theft of the election because bill barr said so. he is leaving out who bill barr is. if there is a creature of the swamp it is bill barr. the press paints him as a right-wing republican. he started his public career in the cia. they paid him to go to law school. he was counsel at the cia.

he was then the attorney general william ford. host: it was h w bush when he was attorney general. why are you giving us this cv for bill barr? caller: bill barr is a creature of the swamp. host: what is that mean? caller: he was one of many liberal republicans who were installed in the cabinet of mr. trump. mr. trump did not know any better. to give you an idea of mr. barr is, he personally defended the fbi agent in idaho who were attacked by the fbi. host: i think we got the point about bill barr being a creature

of the so-called swamp here in washington. can you give us a historical context? guest: what about all the lawsuits if you don't believe barr? there were something like 50 lawsuits that went nowhere. none of the claims have ever panned out. bill barr has had a long career. i don't really have much to say about the claims about his record. host: what podcast are you working on for this week? guest: coming up, i've been so busy i can hardly remember. new world order, that is a scary term. we will be looking at george h w

bush's address where he talks about the new world order. he talks about this new world emerging after the cold war. the soviet union was breaking up but it stuck around for another year or so. the world that bush hoped to leave his successor where was one where there was not peace, but there would be mechanisms of cooperation internationally. the first test of this new world order was saddam hussein's invasion of kuwait. i spoke with jeffrey mandel about how the new world order never came about. there were some initial challenges somalia, uganda, czechoslovakia. yugoslavia.

and the idea of world orders? is there still a world order post cold war? host: if people go to washington times, they will find you? guest: yes. host: martin di caro thank you for your time. guest: you asked me why i do podcast rather than live radio shows. now you know why my sentences never end. we have two more podcasters coming up in a half an hour or so. that is michael harriot and christina greer they are from the grio. we will be taking your calls as well. in the meantime, it is open

forum. we put a lot of public policy and issues on the table this morning. for republicans, (202) 748-8001 , democrats (202) 748-8000 and independents (202) 748-8002. we will be right back. >> watch c-span's live coverage of the cease back annual conference. today at 4:45, closing remarks by president trump. watch the c-span annual conference live today on c-span, the c-span mobile apps or online at c-span.org. the u.s. senate will be in session. american history tv and book tv

will be interrupted throughout the weekend. we will resume our regular programming whenever they are not in session. exploring the people and events that tell the american story. bob calhoun discusses his book "the murders that made us". president dwight eisenhower's grandson talks about ike's leadership in the presidency and the forces that changed him. find the full schedule on your program guide. "washington journal," continues. host: we want to hear from you during this segment of the

washington journal. your views on public policy issues. we have talked about a lot this morning. we will put the numbers on the screen and just a minute. here is the front page of the new york times. they took the money story about the economic report and they say that july's hiring surge restores the jobs lost in the pandemic. and the wall street journal, same thing, hiring regains jobs lost since 2020. inside the wall street journal, a related money story that you will hear a lot about this weekend. this is the senate in session debating an economic bill called the inflation reduction act and it includes provisions for climate change and taxes, etc.. that is another money story that we have already talked about.

whatever is on your mind, public policy wise, we want to hear from you. we will hear from herbert in new york on the democrats line. caller: thank you very much good morning. host: we're listening, go ahead. caller: i was raised to be patriotic and to be patriotic into love my country. a lot of good americans, not soldiers, but a lot of good americans gave their lives so that we could have a free and democratic society. people are dead in my position is, this goes all the way back to the 1700 when george washington did not have the artillery to defend our country against the british. host: i apologize to you, we will let you go and let that

statement stand. reminder to all viewers, turn the volume on your tv when you call in. david from oklahoma city, on the republican line. good morning to you. caller: good morning. host: what is on your mind? caller: i listened to y'all talk about january 6, and now they are coming up with this kangaroo court. why is no one there to defend d -he's not even allowed

there to defend himself? host: you're not comfortable with the forum? caller: it's nothing but democrats slamming trump. host: let's hear from glenn on the republican line? what is keeping you awake these days politically or policy wise? caller: there are two things keeping me awake. every time they put a bill into congress they have this climate nonsense on it. this world has been going around longer than we existed. the weather changes constantly. they don't look at history, they just look at making money and telling lies. the gun bills that they are trying to push through. they don't look at who trained these killers.

they need to get rid of the teachers unions so they quit teaching hatred in schools. guns don't kill people, hatred kills people. they keep pushing hatred. that is what keeps me awake. host: thank you for calling in. this is the wall street journal this morning on the senate bill that will be debated this weekend. you can watch it on c-span2. they titled their article democrats near climate bill vote. here are just a few paragraphs from this article. after yielding to demands of senator kyrsten sinema on the bills tax provisions, they now believe they are on track to pass a party line economic package to be evenly divided chamber. senate passage of the bill which

raises 750 billion in taxes and spends 400 billion on health care and energy will be the culmination of the start and stop talks that have lasted all of this year. this is a very, very big deal senator chuck schumer said. he said he had spoken to every member of his caucus and believed they were all on board. senate democrats are expected to take up a vote on saturday. house majority leader said the house has reconvened to consider the legislation on august 12. what is on your mind for genia? -- virginia. caller: what is on my mind is

president joe biden. it hurts me when people talk about his age. queen elizabeth is 96 years old and she has been the queen of england for over 70 years. you never hear the british people talk about her age or annihilating her or saying that she has dementia or how she gets around. it is disrespectful that our country has of our elders. i am an elder person, i am 80 years old. i have homeschooled my great-grandchildren. i have great great grandchildren. i was raised and taught to respect my elders. joe biden is a great president. if they would take a look at the

things that he has done and is doing and is trying to do for this country and for the people they would be more appreciative of him. i cannot understand as a democrat since i was 18 years old when i voted for president kennedy that the democrats are annihilating him as well for his age. they are also judging him and judging god for allowing him to live as long as he has lived and is living. they should keep that in mind when they talk about his age and how he gets around. it's wrong and i just want to say, it is time that we get together and stop all of this hating on each other. we need to learn to love each other. when i was a young girl in

school, i could not understand, how my people could have been enslaved during the civil war. even after they were enslaved and set free, they still weren't free. i cannot understand how people could be so mean to do that. now, i understand because i am witnessing the hatred. donald trump has brought so much hatred to our nation until it is just pathetic. we talk about ministers -- host: we will leave it there. we thank you for calling. this is judy from nebraska. caller: can you hear me?

host: we are listening. caller: i would like us to think about the phrase that the united states is a melting pot. a melting pot is a little flavor, color and texture. what if we think about the united states as a mosaic where each individual piece keeps its beauty and its value but in relationship with the other small pieces we become a more beautiful mosaic. thank you. host: michael is in stamford, connecticut. what is on your mind this morning? caller: i just wanted tell everybody what the credit card

companies are up to lately. i have two credit cards that i paid off in full. and then next month i have a bill for two dollars. i called them up and they said that was interest accrued before you paid it off. they are ripping off the american public like crazy. this is nuts. two dollars for what? if you throw the bill away, then you will get a late fee and then it will be $40. one other thing about the fraud in the election, how did trump win the first election? have a good day and call your credit card companies. host: did you get your two dollar charge removed? caller:peggy i'm in, democrat.

caller: i just want to say i have concerns about the cpac. they had a hungarian fascist on there and they had steve bannon saying he wants to put democracy in a suppository and give it back to the democrats. he wants to destroy our democracy? i don't know. very concerning. thank you. host: those speeches were on c-span yesterday. cpac is meeting in dallas. today is day three in our lab coverage will begin at -- and our live coverage will begin this afternoon. president trump is the headliner for the cpac conference. he will speak at 6:30. you can watch it here on c-span, the c-span now app, c-span's free app, or online at c-span.org.

let's talk with rudy in california, another democrat. caller: good morning. it is always good to see you when you are hosting. my biggest thing i am thinking about is we will do good as democrats in the election. the only thing the republicans, kevin mccarthy and them are doing is a lot of bragging about what they will do. my take on it is as mark twain once said, bragging and -- is the same thing. the only difference is the latter comes with an animal with much smaller years. the republicans are not going to do anything. host: can i ask you a political question? caller: yes.

host: this story was on fox five new york city, democrats are expected to remove iowa from traditional leave off spot in 2024 campaigns for two reasons. the technical glitches of 2020 and because it is too white. what do you think? caller: i am a black male with a blended family, very blended. that should not be taken into consideration at all. i am an establishment liberal. i believing certain things, climate change -- i believe in certain things, climate change. that should not happen. i am not looking for a pat on the back. when people say things like it is too white or too black or too brown, it should not have been

like that at all. i do not agree with their position on that. host: thank you for calling. jimmy, maine, republican line. what is on your mind? caller: there is nothing about black and white. god bless america, but you deal with the person in front of you. you are $30 trillion in debt, taiwan has all the chips in the world, we have mitch mcconnell, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer's, we are $30 trillion in debt and we have no reporters that used to be looking into problems. forget about joe biden's kid and donald trump's kid. if donald trump's kid did what joe biden's kid did, they would be on the news channel 24/7. we have nothing in this country. i do not care if you are black

or white. it does not matter -- black lives matter. that's great. what happened? go down to washington, give them some schools. fix something. that is greed. china, they have all of those muslims over there. lebron james has a $50 million contract. but i am delivering milk and i have to put up with this nonsense. this is the most ludicrous world i have ever seen in my life. i do not care if you are gay. god bless you. be gay. what does that have to do with school? transgender. we will have operation on kids at eight and nine years old? host: jimmy in maine, thank you. this is from "politico." calls to china go unanswered amid crisis. top chinese officials have not

return to multiple calls from their american counterparts. this week as a crisis erupted in the pacific over house speaker nancy pelosi's visit to taiwan according to three people with knowledge of the attempts. beijing's ghosting of lloyd austin and joint chairs general mark milley comes as china continues launching missiles and positioning warships and aircraft in unprecedented military drills around taiwan. officials and experts say china's silence is a shortsighted and reckless move that increases the risk of escalation in an already tense situation. u.s. military leaders strive to maintain open lines of communication with potential adversaries such as china to prevent accidents and other miscalculations that could turn into a full-blown conflict and finally them about the last call that joint chiefs chair mark milley had with his chinese counterpart was on july 7

according to the pentagon. let's hear from clay in louisiana near new orleans. republican line. what is on your mind? caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i watched your previous call on how is your economic situation. i would like to respond. i am retired and on a fixed income. i have some discretionary income . with inflation and being on a fixed income, that speaks for itself. with food and gas and so on. that is definitely on the downside. another aspect which is not mentioned very often in these programs is crime. we live in a suburb outside of

new orleans. basically my wife and i, in any urban area this would apply because it is crime. as senior citizens, that is one of the more important aspects of life. host: does that include the french quarter down in new orleans? caller: absolutely. absolutely it does. no question about it. it is not emphasized enough and i repeat, i would think any large urban area is taking this crime problem and that is a major concern for senior citizens like my wife and i. the third point i would like to make is with our president and the democrats, they do not address this crime issue. it is all about climate control and racism and so forth.

i am not even sure if i know what racism is, to be honest. thank you for taking my call. host: that was clay in louisiana. this is richard in illinois, independent line. good morning. richard, good morning. . caller: i have seen you on another channel about your interview with sam and what is going on. i found the interesting comments of the man with regard to what he was saying about crime. the thing is rampant. it is also here, believe it or not. some of the same things going on elsewhere in the united states. as for military recruitment, i am a veteran.

host: ok. was that the end of your statement? caller: yeah. i'm trying to make sure i am getting you on the other side. anyway, this thing has a way of backfiring and imploding. i am an economist and i would like to drop a concept with regard to recruitment. all should serve that they be served. by talk to young people. they like the idea of applying their education together with recruitment. many people think that, women in particular say yes, they feel they should be a part of the sign up for the draft. the situation with covid, i would automatically author the people that are the nurses in

that situation because i have gone through the covid, had to have emergency surgery. quite frankly, they are more than qualified to join the medical corps and i would be giving them rank and paying supplements when to come -- supplemental income to them if they would go for a week or two in the summertime. you would have advancement in rank and a trained core ready for service. host: we will have to leave it there. a couple of stories from "the wall street journal." moscow is open to prisoner swap talks. senior kremlin officials say moscow is ready to discuss a prisoner swap with washington. people familiar with the metal say we could see brittney griner and former marine paul whelan traded for a russian arms dealer imprisoned in the u.s. right below that is a story about the race in england to be

the next conservative leader. trust leads race to become next u.k. prime minister. foreign minister lose trust has consolidated her lead in recent days over her rival in the race to become the next british prime minister as conservative party members this week begin the month long process of choosing a new leader. polls show truss with a big edge ranging from five to 34 points over the former treasury secretary. myrtle, mississippi. good morning. democrat. caller: good morning. the first thing i would like to say about your previous caller, i don't agree with everything he said but what he said about the re-implementing the draft, i agree because everybody should

serve their country. the reason i called was about these republican-governed states with their restrictive abortion laws. kansas, what happened in kansas this past week with the voters coming out and voting against overturning that constitutional amendment -- the constitution in kansas to maintain the right to an abortion is an indication that that would probably happen in all states if abortion was put on a ballot or if there was a special referendum for abortion. i believe these red states kicking in these trigger laws, they need to take a more democratic approach to how these laws will be implemented in those states. that's all i have to say. thank you. host: what do you do in mississippi? caller: i was a federal auditor

but i retired seven years ago. host: thank you for calling. eric is at march airbase in california on the democrats line. what do you do on the base? caller: good morning. i am retired. i live on the base. i am retired military, retired army. also retired police officer state of california. former president trump, no one is above the law. when i was an officer, i treated everyone fairly irregardless of race, color, or creed. the second comment i have on the next president, trump is not the answer and neither is biden. i feel that our country needs a strong leader, possibly even a military general such as the dwight d. eisenhower. i voted also for bob dole who was also an army veteran. i voted for george bush and i am

a registered democrat. the country needs leadership. the country needs honesty. have a good day. thank you. host: thank you for calling in this morning. i want to share with you this piece from "the wall street journal." every saturday they have this long newsmaker interview. this week it is nadine stross en. she is a liberal, head of the civil american liberties union for 20 years or so and it is about free speech and ho concerns -- and her concerns about free speech. just a little bit from this weekend interview in the wall street journal. she has made it clear as a legal and scholarly defender of liberal ideals, most notably as president of the aclu from 1991 to 2008. she brings up john stuart mill,

the british philosopher and parliamentarian by way of citing his view as she puts it, "that everything should be subject to re-examination including our most cherished ideas." for her that means, "i continue to re-examine my belief about the mutually reinforcing relationship between free speech and equality and i continued to be completely convinced that these are two mutually reinforcing values." that view has made her an outlier on the left. "the trope you hear over again is that free speech is a tool of the powerful, that it is only benefiting white supremacists like the people in charlottesville or donald trump on january 6 or anti-labor crusaders, big corporations." that is her take on free speech and her belief in free speech in

case you are interested in reading that. there it is. we have about 45 minutes left. coming up more podcasters. michael harriet and christina greer from the grio black podcast network. they will be talking about their podcast focusing on black history, culture, and politics. that will begin in just a minute. ♪ >> live sunday, columnist and talk so host larry elder will be our guest to talk about political correctness and racial politics in the united states. he is the author of several books including "10 things you cannot say in america." larry elder sunday at noon eastern on c-span. >> at least six presidents

recorded conversations while in office. hear many of those during season two of c-span's podcast "presidential recordings." >> the nixon tapes are part private conversation, part deliberation, and 100% unfiltered. >> let me say that the main thing is it will pass and my heart goes out to those people who with the best of intentions are overzealous, but as i'm sure you know, if i could spend more time being a politician and less time being president, i would have kicked them out but i did not know what they were doing. >> find "presidential recordings" on the c-span app or wherever you get your podcasts. >> c-span brings you an unfiltered view of government. our newsletter recaps the day for you from the halls of congress to daily press briefings to remarks from the

president. scan the qr code to sign up for this email and stay up-to-date on everything happening in washington each day. subscribe today using the qr code or visit c-span.org/connect to subscribe anytime. >> there are a lot of places to get political information. but only at c-span do you get it straight from the source. no matter where you are from or where you stand on the issues, c-span is america's network, unfiltered, unbiased, word for word. if it happens here or here or here or anywhere that matters, america is watching on c-span. powered by cable. announcer: "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now from las vegas and brooklyn, two more podcasters, michael harriet is

the host of the grio daily podcast and christina greer hosts the blackest questions podcast. first could either one of you tell us what the grio is exactly? michael: the grio is a network over the air, we have a streaming service, an app that you can download, similar to netflix and we -- the journalism site, the digital new site focuses on african-american news around the world and we talk about politics, culture, entertainment and those other things that we are creating a podcast network about. host: christina greer also teaches political science at florida university but your podcast is called "the blackest questions podcast." what is the format?

christina: in addition to what michael shared, this is a podcast put together to invest in the importance of black media. my podcast is essentially a game show/podcast. we had michael on as well. that episode will be airing shortly. we ask different questions about black history and the entire diaspora. the questions are not meant to stump you what it is important for us to remember and realize that so much of what we are taught in school actually is not about black history at all. it is a way for the audience to learn more about their culture and as i have always said, black history is american history. for the nonblack listeners, it is important for them to learn about inventors, musicians, people who have contributed to society past, present, and future. it is a fun way for people to

get to know my guests but also learn about black culture and politics. host: christina greer, what is a question that you ask michael harriet and did you stump him? christina: michael, do you remember one of the questions i may have asked you? michael: one of the questions that you asked that stumped me was the first black student at my all modern. and i knew it my but i could never remember the name in the moment. it stumped me. that is one of the few ones that i missed. host: michael, what is your alma mater? michael: auburn university. host: what is the answer to the question? michael: i knew you would. host: michael harriet, you describe yourself, and i might be mispronouncing this, as a

white- people-oligist. michael: it is a whimsical term based on the idea that we try to address racism and dissemination in this country a lot by investigating and studying and interrogating black culture and i believe that you cannot solve that problem or interrogate white supremacy in this country by studying black people because we did not create racism, we do not perpetuate it. to solve the problem, you have to study white people and that is why i created the term. host: before we begin taking calls, we want to put some public policies out there. christina greer, when you woke up this morning, what public policy issue was on your mind? christina: i am deeply concerned about the roll back of roe v. wade and i was reading about

indiana essentially saying that there is almost a full abortion ban in that state. i am fearful that other states will follow suit. i have been following the case of the gentleman who was in solitary confinement for 42.5 years and died of covid comp occasions -- covid complications. so many of our citizens and brilliant minds in horribly inhumane conditions, not only praising, often times many people are given 10 years. the fact that this gentleman was in solitary confinement for 42 plus years, psychologists have argued that 10 days should be the max for solitary confinement. not 10 years, but 10 days should be the maximum.

thinking about the ideals of the country and how far we have come and how far we still have to go. host: mr. harriet? michael: i am thinking about the children who are prepared to go back to school and some who have already started school, who are going to a vastly different education system. for many, this is the first time in a couple of years that they have been going to school in person. it is the first time that many of them are going into school in states like florida and alabama that have outlawed their sexuality. it is the first time that many of them will be going into schools that outlaw their history. i am thinking about those children today and the kind of education system that we are building for our future. host: what kind of education system is that in your view? michael: i think we should have one that is more equitable and more inclusive for everyone

because we know that this country's education system is not equal. it seems like we are on a tear to make it less equal instead of making our country a more perfect union. host: michael harriet and christina greer are our guests. we are talking about public policy issues and politics. john is our first caller from maryland, independent line. go ahead. caller: i would like to ask your guests are they familiar with jason black and atriq? -- tariq? they seem to be far more relative to the black community than the grio. i heard them talk about including everybody. they say that we should not include anybody. this is about black people. everybody does not fit in. immigrants from africa,

reparations committees. it has nothing to do with them. do you know professor black and tariq and what do you think of them? host: christina greer? christina: i have heard of both of them and they serve a particular segment of the black community. i think what they are trying to build with the grio is that it is important for us to have inclusive conversations. many of the conversations we have on the grio, if you know, you know. it is just as important for black students to see me in front of the classroom and white students to see me in front of the classroom. i do not think it is valuable if only black people no black history. so many nonblack people need to understand the contributions of black people. that is including a conversation

about the contributions of blacks not only in the united states and the caribbean. i read a book that talks about the need for us to build coalitions across the diaspora and start more substantive consultations -- more substantive conversations. the inclusive element of the grio, if people tune into our podcast on the network, it is so that they can learn something and reflect on the way in which black people have been excluded in this country and globally over time. yes, i have heard of the gentle man that was mentioned but i think that they cater to a particular group of black americans. host: mr. harriet? michael: i will echo what dr. greer said. there is no specific person who speaks to everyone. you would not say that there --

do you know this guy, it is a weird question. i do think as far as inclusion, we look at the world and black america as a diaspora. i do not think anyone benefits from excluding a particular group whether it is immigrants or americans or native americans. we want to be inclusive. we want to build a global village. host: michael harriet, it is august, 2022 and you have declared august as white history month. why is that? michael: it started as a joke but a lot of times what we exclude from history is not just black history, but the history of some of the harm that was done throughout this country's history.

we kind of whitewash the harm that was done to the native american communities, immigrant communities. i wanted to focus on it because the joke was that there was no holiday in august. why don't we have a holiday in august? all months matter. i talk a lot about history in my podcast and not just about things that happened, but to contextualize things that are happening. what we are doing with white history month is talking about what other things -- one of the things we were talking about is if things keep going the way they are, there will be a race war. we are doing a series on all the other race wars that happened in american history that students do not learn about. to contextualize the present, you have to know the past. host: william is in texas, democrats line. go ahead.

caller: i would like to bring attention to the violation of oath of office and federal crime and it is crazy to me that this entire government is playing like the behavior of some republicans and democrats, the violation of oath ofrepublicanse using propaganda and playing like the united states don't have corrupted politicians. in addition to that, china concerns. we watch mitch mcconnell and his wife do everything they possibly can -- and this is very important, people need to listen. you can go to the department of

justice website and type in "china." you will get criminal charges against china. this is in addition to the federal agencies being weaponized to attack people of color. how about this? you have fbi reports, we are being set up. host: thank you for that. putting that on the table let's get an answer. who would like to start? guest: i could not hear it very well. could you repeat? host: mr. harry, were you able to hear? guest: he is right. we see that some of these politicians who basically enabled the january 6 coup

attempt are not being held accountable to the oath of office they took. you talk about the fbi targeting black extremists and i always wonder why they don't monitor movements like this, right wing white supremacists, like they monitor the black made up supremacist movement or black lives matter during the george floyd protests. host: if you would like to talk to our guest michael harriot and cristina greer, both podcasters on thegrio.com. (202)-748-8001 for republicans, (202)-748-8000 free democrats, and (202)-748-8002 for

independents. you can also send a text at (202)-748-8003. please include your name and city. mark, evans dale, iowa, republican line. caller: my comment is that the george floyd thing is bad. there are cops that make mistakes but they jump all over if a white cop shoots a black guy. and yet, you turn around and look how many officers we have had lately that have been assassinated in their cars by black guys and nobody can say a word about it. that is taboo. you cannot say anything about a black person shooting a white cop. but if a white cop shoots a black guy, it is all across the nation. host: professor greer?

guest: i think there have been three officers shot on duty and it has been a resounding response by black leaders and black community members who said this is not something we would ever condone. the framing of that question is somewhat problematic and definitely incorrect. what is important to remember is when we think about the george floyd thing, this is not just an isolated incident. this is a systemic problem black people have been talking about for decades if not centuries. the institution of police when they do not treat the same people with respect. we saw this a few months ago in buffalo where a white perpetrator can go into a grocery store, kill several individuals, and walk out relatively unscathed. we have seen this time and again with white perpetrators and not black people just driving their cars or minding their business.

the idea of the republican talking point of black people are complaining and are quiet with other crimes is not the case. black people have been very vocal about what the larger situation is. it is about the institution, serious, systemic institutions working against black people since the founding of the nation. that is the deeper conversation. you cannot understand the starting point it is then difficult to understand the hurt and the rage and the desire to be seen by law enforcement. that is the beginning of a complicated and difficult conversations that a lot of white americans don't want to have, and quite honestly, refused to have. host: what are the courses you are teaching? guest: i am in american politics professor. i teach intro to politics every semester because i like to steal the kids from other professors

before they move on. we look at mayors and leadership in transportation, the environment, and all the things that makes cities work. cities that are growing, cities and decline, first-tier cities. we bring in journalists and elected officials and those who work on gentrification or urban development or relationship between the city and their state capitol. really contextualizes how important it is not just to the growth of the country, but how we fit in as a small individual in a city like new york of 9 million people. host: since it is a midterm year will you be weaving in the midterm elections? guest: absolutely. it is really important. i have democrats, republicans, independents and all my classes. i explained the importance of voting not just as an african-american, but runoff

elections, primaries. i want my students to see themselves as an integral part of how democracy works. it is important we don't think about democracy as something that we hang on a wall like a picture and we pat ourselves on the back and say, we have democracy. it is important to introduce them to being part of the investment in democracy and helping work on it every single day. my real goal is to inspire them and hopefully plant the seed that they will want to run for office someday. everybody needs to run, not for the presidency, but there are local offices where they can contribute to the community. whether it is the school board or the waterboard or planning or zoning committee or city council, state legislature. really introduce them to the individuals who are doing those jobs but also to the concept that they too could be one of those individuals. i have guest speakers come in and if you can see it, you can be it.

we see all types of elected officials and we talk about the different roles in protest politics but also electoral politics and how they go hand-in-hand to get change done. host: michael harriot, you had a recent podcast titled "the democrats don't love you either." what was that referencing? guest: it was less about the democratic party in conversation about, you know, black people being beholden to the democratic party. answering the question, why are black people so invested in the democratic party? what i was saying is that the criticism about black people being beholden to the democratic party is a wrong narrative. people see politics or political parties as something people love. i think black people see the democratic party as a tool to enact the policies for our

communities and our businesses and our families that we want to see in our country. just as a carpenter uses a hammer, but he does not necessarily love the hammer. carpenters are not at home loving their needle nose pliers or screwdrivers. it is a tool. it is a tool for them to build the things they want and that is what the democratic party is for african-americans. i think that we have to think about politics like that, right? we don't necessarily have to love a politician and like the way he looks and like his family. we want the politicians we can depend on to enact the things in our communities, or for our communities, we want to see this country.

guest: louis in new york. you are on with cristina greer and michael harriot. go ahead. caller: how are you doing? thank you for taking my call. i just got towards the end of the program and put on the tv. i just wanted to say president biden is doing a good job. the other is about student debt. i don't know if anybody could shed light on that? do you think anything would be changing for the students? my son's debt is $70,000. do they think that would be in this bill? host: i think we got the point of that. cristina greer, you are at a university. do you see or talk to students who have this debt? guest: absolutely.

we talk about it often. so many students think about their debt in relation to their futures in what they will do after university. some people might want to go into particular occupations, but if they do not pay enough, they will never make enough to pay off their loans. the republican party will never be the party that absolves student debt. it is incumbent upon the democrats to figure out a solution. i think what is frustrating for my students is they find money under the couch cushions for things we want to do or things that come out of nowhere. during the crisis in ukraine, although my students fundamentally supported the united states standing firmly with ukraine, they were quite confused at how we found $30 billion here, $50 billion there for support. they are asking for a portion of money to help alleviate student debt for themselves. they know it will affect their futures.

they know homebuying prospects will be limited. they know their parents are stretched to the limit. they know the opportunities their parents had is like nothing with their grandparents had. this is a real conversation we had because it contributes to the distrust in the government when they feel like the government has wasteful spending. that lobbyists and corporations and wealthy people are not paying their fair share and getting tax breaks. that is definitely what the republicans and the donald trump tax cuts want, but they see it with democrats as well with the ways the party still supports incredibly wealthy individuals. that is not a question or conversation that is going to go away. i think if the democrats want to solidify their future, especially with young americans who will be voting the next few decades, i think getting student debt under control and figuring out a way to alleviate the burden will create lifelong loyal members for quite some time. host: cristina greer, one of the arguments made against getting

rid of student debt is that it is a benefit to the upper-middle-class who holds the debt. guest: i think, you know, that is a talking point and debate a lot of folks have. let's remember, there are quite a few americans not in the university system. quite a few have not gone to college and some will never go to college. i think alleviating the debt -- and keep in mind, we still have not had a full definition of what the middle class is. i asked my students to write down what the middle class is in the numbers we get and debate and have a conversation about our wildly different. depending on what state you are in, middle class starts at $40,000. if you are from new york city, folks are starting middle class at $100,000. even having that conversation of, who would benefit the most? a lot of the comments of data are suggesting african-americans, latinos, marginalized groups, women

specifically, would be benefiting by alleviating this debt. we still get pennies on the dollar compared to white men. it is a complicated question. my grandmother always said, if we can put a man on the moon, we can figure this out. we figured out how to do a lot of things when it comes to helping communities have economic relief. all of a sudden we are scratching our heads? i think that we can and we are dedicated, we can get anywhere. host: mr. harriot, do you consider yourself to be a member of the middle class? guest: i do consider myself to be a member of the middle class now. we always hear people say, i was poor and i did not know i was poor. i grew up knowing i was poor. but, you know, being part of the middle class and thinking about what dr. greer said, we always put these issues in a silo. if we help poor people or people

in the middle class, it will benefit everyone. that is not how an economy works. helping one part of the country or one part of the economy filters into all other parts. when you talk about student debt, first, we have to acknowledge most of the people with student debt did not graduate college. if you go to school for two years and you did not graduate, the debt is not wiped out. when you are talking about the middle-class having student debt, we know that most of the student debt is disproportionately to black and brown students. white students rarely borrow to go to college in comparison to black and brown and nonwhite students. we know who holds that debt.

fixing the unbalance in the system. what something student debt does is get the part of the economy that is weighted down, it takes some of that burden off. that does not just benefit them. it benefits the benefits the middle-class class and the higher classes, right? once people have money to spend, all major corporations benefit. the people who are small business owners, they benefit from people having more money to spend. and the people who are poor benefit because they are getting more tax dollars that can solve their problems. we cannot just silo these things off, if we give this person money, it only helps this person.

that is not how an economy works, that is not how democracy works, and that is not how the country works. host: you have a book coming out shortly. we will show the cover. what is the title? guest: it is "black af history." it is a textbook that begins in the 1400s and ends today. it talks about the history of black people in america. host: i take it that "af" does not stand for air force. guest: if you wanted to stand for air force, it can stand for air force. host: cristina greer, you also have a book coming out? guest: i am working on a book. the working title is "black patriots." i and making the argument the insider tactics of barbara jordan and the outsider tactics, if you combine them and add 50

years, you get the culmination that is stacey abrams. host: sean is on the independent line in florida. where are you in florida? caller: i am in central florida, lakeland. but i drive trucks. i am in oklahoma right now. host: are you driving as you speak? caller: i got my d.o.t. approved headset. [laughter] host: all right. go ahead. caller: i want to talk about history. in the words of john henry clark, "people do not know real history." as a 40 plus-year-old man i learned everything that is almost 80% of what i learned in school was a lie. the property that my family lives on, that property was handed down from my great-grandfather three times. he got that land when he fought

after the civil war from the government. and my great-grandfather three times was a native american. this is something that is greatly misunderstood. there are black native americans, which now goes back to the question of, did christopher columbus really discover america? how did christopher columbus no to come to america? before the treaty of granada black people were running europe. the treaty of granada is when they left and right after -- my ancestors got land in the west. we go over every so often. christopher columbus literally tells you this in his letters to ferdinand and them. host: sean, thank you and drive carefully. michael harriot, cristina greer, the teaching of history.

why don't we take it from what he had to say? guest: i always explain it like this. a lot of people learn when they are older their grandfathers drank a lot and it was not coffee in that month that he was sipping on -- coffee in that mug that he was sipping on. we make our ancestors more pleasant to think about. we don't want to teach our children how harsh this world is. if you expand that, that is how american history is taught in this country. i say that with the caveat that i was homeschooled. i learned my history at home. which surprises me. which is part of the reason i wrote this book. i am still learning about the

history that most people are taught. it brings me to some realizations. i realize a lot of the controversy about history is because, oh, we learned in second grade george washington and thomas jefferson and abraham lincoln were these deified figures. and then eight years or seven years or 10 years later they realized that they were slave owners, that they were essentially human traffickers. and it is hard to comport those differences in your head because we do not teach history contextually. if we are able to contextualize, like, thomas jefferson was a brilliant man and a human trafficker, we might be able to contextualize that before we deified him.

i think people, instead of learning how to think of these issues and these people, they create this mythology and it is hard to dissuade people the myth they learned about the country they lived in is not true. and there is no truth for most of the history they learned. that is the thing that most historians have to combat. for a long time, the way we combat that is to go with the lie. host: professor greer? guest: i agree with michael wholeheartedly. i think the role of historians and journalists who are excavating the archives see however plucked it some americans were -- see how apoplectic americans were in researching history. the brochure is always better than the location. the brochure says we are the ritz-carlton and then you get

here and is the motel 6 at best. just as michael said, so many people are shackled to this notion of so many of these murderous founders of this nation and they don't want to look at the fact -- thomas jefferson, you cannot be in a relationship with 70 who is a slave. period. the end. when you think about somebody like governor desantis in florida, who is making teachers learn fake history and teach the students that george washington and thomas jefferson did not even own human beings and that they were just great men who started the united states, and slavery was just an immigration program where black people were brought here, and not talk about how we change the course of marine life because the sharks follow the shape slips to the east coast of the united states. all of these larger conversations about the mass genocide of native americans.

we learned about wigwams and the six big tribes in the native american culture instead of learning of the thousands of tribes and communities all across the united states. they were forced off of their land if they were not killed first. these are real, hard conversations to have. james baldwin really excavate it for white people say, it is hard to face facts. we are all entitled to our own opinion but we are all entitled to our own facts not. white people in this country cannot understand the facts of what this country has been. they want to absolve themselves but we are interconnected. i need to know american history. i want to know the real history and that involves black people. so many white americans know nothing of any other culture but their own. in learning about our culture, they will learn about the real history of this country and it's

hard and it is ugly. there have been really great people that have helped us throughout the years to build this nation, the ideal nation. there have been collective opportunities and coalition building across this country. we have to have real conversations about who was involved in who wasn't? and all of the work that still needs to be done. that is the thing. black folks have been so invested in this nation and making it into the ideals on paper. so many people are obstinate in having this conversation and doing the hard work to undo the foundation that is what white supremacy is. host: brian in albany, georgia. we have a minute and a half left for you. caller: how are you doing? happy to be on here. i would like to know why does everybody equate crime with black and brown people? why do people equate drugs with

black and brown people? people are talking about, oh, the crime. they are talking black and brown. why don't they say that? that is my issue. host: all right. professor greer, let's start with you and we will finish with michael harriot. guest: i have heard him talk about this before and he is brilliant. i think it is a lazy way of contextualizing racism and a lot of people immediately think crime is proxy for black. that is incorrect. especially when you look at the numbers. guest: when you look at the data and the numbers, we see that, first of all, if you take the end of the question about drugs. we know without doubt year in and year out the biggest survey in the world shows white people do more drugs than black people. but black people are arrested for drugs three times more than white people.

that is the answer to his question about why, when we talk about drugs, we talk about black people. because the way the drug policies are enforced are disproportionately made the burden of elect people. we will sites is to sticks about -- disproportionately made the burden of black people. we will cite statistics about crime. when you look at the conviction you end up seeing black people are convicted at lower rates than white people because white people are not arrested for most of the crimes they commit. and most of the crimes they commit that we talk about our police generated. when you stop people on the highway for speeding, those people are not criminals until they are stopped. we arrest people for drugs. those people are not criminals

or in the criminal justice system until they are arrested. so, how police enforce the law, how the criminal justice system is enforced is what shapes our perception of crime. we do not know how many people in this city you are in are using drugs right now. all we know is how many people the police arrest or the police see who are using drugs. and an institution that disproportionately kills black people, that incarcerates black people, an institution that disproportionately arrests black people, that brutalize as black people cannot be a metric for how we judge those people. that is why we talk about black people when we talk about crime. host: both michael harriot and cristina greer have podcasts on thegrio.

mr. harriot, what is the name of your podcast again? guest: "thegrio daily." host: what do you talk about? guest: we talk about the big issues. instead of crime we will talk about the institution. exactly what we had this conversation about. we talk about larger issues in the news. host: cristina greer? guest: my podcast is called "the blackest questions" and it is a game show to talk about black history and culture. host: cristina greer also teaches at florida university. we appreciate you being with us on "the washington journal." >> thank you very much. guest: thank you for having us. host: the senate will be in session working on their inflation reduction act bill. that is going to dominate a lot of the c-span2 coverage because the senate, we are committed to

covering gavel-to-gavel on c-span2. that means american history tv and book tv are going to be preempted from time to time. keep an eye on it if you are a fan. you will be getting some of that when the senate is not in session. also, tomorrow larry elder will be our in-depth guest on book tv on c-span instead of c-span2. that is from noon until 2:00 p.m. live with your calls. author larry elder and today at 4:45, it is the continuation of the conservative political action conference in dallas. president trump will be speaking. he is expected at 6:30. you can watch that on c-span, c-span now, or c-span.org. thank you for being with us on "washington journal." ♪

announcer: c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more, including charter communications. >> broadband is a force for empowerment. that is why charter invested billions building infrastructure, upgrading technology, empowering opportunity in communities big and small. charter is connecting us. announcer: charter communications supports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. ♪ announcer: washington journal,

every day we take your calls live on air on the news of the day. we will discuss policy issues that impact you. coming up sunday morning, democratic strategist nicole schmidt and republican pollster and strategist connor mcguire discuss the political news of the week and impact on campaign 2022. dan caldwell of stand together and concerned veterans of america talks about veterans issues and his group's opposition to nato expansion. watch washington journal live at 7:00 eastern sunday morning on c-span or c-span now, our free mobile app. join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages and tweets. ♪ announcer: watch c-span's live coverage of the final day of the cpac annual conference. today at 4:45 p.m. eastern, closing remarks by former president donald trump.

watch the cpac annual conference live today on c-span, c-span now, or online at c-span.org. announcer: an update on the democrats' climate change bill known as the inflation reduction act. majority leader chuck schumer announced the senate will begin work on it later today with the vote to officially begin debate. if approved, the weekend is expected to be full of votes on unlimited amendment. final passage potentially happens early monday morning. all votes, including final passage, only require a simple majority. meanwhile, majority leader hoyer put members unnoticed the house will be called back into session friday, august 12, to consider the bill if the senate completes its work. read the congressional budget office analysis of the democrat's plan at c-span.org and follow the senate live on

c-span2 or with c-span now. announcer: now available at the c-span shop, 2022 congressional directory. order a copy of the congressional directory. this compact, spiral-bound book is your guide to the federal government with contact information for every member of congress, including bios and committee assignments. and contact information for state governors and the biden administration cabinet. order your copy today at c-spanshop.org or scan the qr code. every purchase supports c-span's nonprofit operation. ♪ announcer: c-span now is a free mobile app featuring your unfiltered view of washington, live and on-demand. keep up with the day's biggest events with live streams of floor proceedings and hearings from congress, what has events, the courts, campaigns and more

from the world of politics. all that your fingertips. you can also stay current with the latest episodes of washington journal and find scheduling information for c-span's tv networks and c-span radio, plus compelling podcasts. c-span now is available at the apple store and google play. download it for free today. c-span now, your front receipt to washington, anytime, anywhere. ♪ host: for the next three hours, we will be talking about politics and taking your calls. two stories are dominating the news cycle this morning. the economy and the jobs report that came out yesterday, the senate being in session to work on their climate