bill, and later we will talk about the latest round of u.s. military aid to ukraine with foundation for defense of democracies brad bowman. that is as the war waged by russia stretches into its sixth month. as always, you can join the conversation with your calls, text, and tweets. ♪ host: good morning. we pick up where we left off yesterday with more of your reaction to the fbi search of former president donald trump's florida home. republican style in at (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can also text us. include your first name, city, and state at (202) 748-8003. plus your -- post your

comments on facebook.com/c-span and send your tweets to the handle @cspanwj. -- went on real america's voice yesterday and here is her account of what happened. >> there are allegations of may have been planted to use against the former president in the g6 committee hearings, things of that nature. you did not see anything like that happen? >> i don't have any reason to believe it happened at this point but i do believe it is telling about where the american people are with the stress for the fbi. i'm not saying you did not happen. i do know the legal team did a thorough search. we have been cooperating. we knew this was something they were looking for so we gave them free access and allow them to come in and search voluntarily without having to issue a warrant or subpoena. this is not new. we knew this was happening. i do not think there was

anything there worthwhile. we will see what they come up with. if they did, it will be interesting, especially since they pro polluted me from watching what they did, but at this point, i do not necessarily think they would go to the extent of trying to plant information. i think they would make stuff up and come up with whatever they want. that is the way they would have to indict the president because they don't have anything. there is nothing there. host: that's the former president's lawyer who was at mar-a-lago. the president put out another statement yesterday on true social -- truthsocial.com, his social media platform, what happened was a long infringement of u.s. citizens. it is all the left democrats now, scam after scam. our country is paying a big price. conservative hugh hewitt's

writing in the opinion pages of the washington post saying the president, former president, should make the warrant public. he can do so. he wrote this, the american people need to see the warrant, all of its. the american public needs to see the warrant, all of it. the former president has a copy and should make it public. a likely lists the items to be seized and laws allegedly violated be the affidavit supporting the warrant is probably sealed. former prosecutors say and attorney general merrick garland can seek to unseal it. citizens need to know if this was a reasonable search based on probable cause of some crime by someone with access to mar-a-lago. as a judge has clearly decided there is probable cause to conclude or yet another unmerited strike of the 45th president by the latest in the long line of former federal officials who try to take donald trump down a peg or behind bars

and failed. questions are these, what is the justice department looking for and was this necessary? yesterday during the white house briefing the press secretary for president biden was asked about the fbi search. here's what she had to say. >> the fbi served a search warrant on the former president's residence from florida. was a president or anyone at the white house aware of the search warrant or has anyone at the white house or president been briefed in the aftermath of the search warrant? >> no. the president was not briefed, was not aware of it. no one at the white house was given a heads up. that did not happen. >> is the white house at all concerned given the domestic littoral climate but the signal it sends to the rest of the world the department of justice carried out this operation of a former president they could even create the appearance of politically motivated prosecution? you >> have heard us say this many times at this podium and

heard the president say this, the president say this, the justice department conduct investigations independently and we leave any law enforcement matters to them. it would not be appropriate for us to comment on any ongoing investigations. i can say that president biden has been unequivocal since the campaign. he believes in the rule of law, in the independence of the justice department investigations, that those investigations should be free from political influence and has compelled -- and held that commitment as president. i want to remind you of what he said on january 7, 2021 when he then nominated merrick garland to be the attorney general and i quote. "we need to restore the honor, integrity of the department of justice in this nation that has been so badly damaged and so many former leaders of that department have so testified and stated that i want to be clear

to those who lead this department who you will serve. he will not work for me, you are not the president or vice president's lawyer, your loyalty is not to me, it is to the law, the constitution, the people of this nation to guarantee justice." so i would refer you to the department of justice. host: from the white house yesterday, let's get to calls. john in brooklyn, democratic caller, what do you think? caller: how are you doing? i think all of the republicans would please tell me why would trump need 15 boxes of this certified boxes of records. after they got the first 15, they found another 12 boxes. all you republicans listen to manual call this morning, tell me why from needed is -- neither these and what he would do for them. those things belong to the

government, to me and you. i trust the fbi, i trust the state department. there will be a trial, they will charge him, then they will have a chance to defend him. first, tell me, what was he doing with them? why did he want them? that don't belong to trump. all right? thank you very much. ?" in georgia, -- much. host: in georgia, republican, go ahead. caller: i've been listening to your great network for 30 years. this is the worst thing i've seen happen in my 50 years of conservative politics. i believe this will lead to the trump nomination of president and a landslide victory in 2024. i think this will lead to a big race in georgia, herschel walker against senator warnock, i think this will lead to herschel walker winning and i think we will -- this will lead to a

landslide republican win and wins in the house and senate and we will take over both and the republicans will be happy forever because i've never seen the american people so upset about the overreach by the justice department and the fbi and i think both merrick garland and christopher wray need to be fired yesterday. host: and yesterday the house leader for the republicans, kevin mccarthy of california, said if republicans win in november, they will be investigating the search of the former president's home. james in tennessee, independent. hi, james. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. host: morning. caller: i to bring this up but when i hear people calling in about down from, they talk like he is god. only god can't lie. you are going to tell me a white man can't live now. you light on god when

[indiscernible] so the man is a liar, a thief, and a criminal. i do not who he is mad about. if you think you will get your slaves back, you have another thing coming. host: mike in dallas, north carolina, republican. hi, mike. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. haven't we seen this before with the russian collusion? everybody says it is so hard to get a warrant to get the president, a search warrant, but they did it before didn't they? and look, the reason i listen to c-span is all of the hate that comes through. it is better than a cup of coffee in the morning to wake me up. people like you on cnn and msnbc, i seen them calls for reeducating me and nicole wallace even wanted to drone strike me.

there's gotta be some kind of stop the hate movement, you know? where are we going with this? host: all right. a couple you mentioned the legality of this and consequences. here is the wall street journal, multiple records laws get a spotlight in the search. yesterday we told you the wall street journal reported the removal of classified documents has a penalty, a fine, prison time, and disqualifies people from federal office. the wall street journal reporting this morning they had done more -- talked to more experts and this is what they are saying, one of the laws barred government employees from removing classified information and holding it at any unauthorized location. someone convicted of that offense could face a fine up to five years in prison. a second statute makes it a crime to conceal, remove, or destroy records filed with court

or in public office, punishable with a fine and up to three years in prison. someone who does that law should be forfeit of his office and restricted from holding office. if mr. trump were prosecuted and convicted of the second statute, he would not necessarily bid -- be disqualified from office says a lawyer at wilson sons goodrich and rosie b. the constitution already outlines the restrictions that are someone from holding presidential office. it is not clear that congress can supplement those rules. that is the reporting by the wall street journal. "new york times" on this question, how might a conviction play out -- what laws apply to the removal of documents? there are several laws that could cover such a situation. for example, the espionage act which criminalizes the unauthorized retention of

defense-related information that could be used to harm the united states or aid a foreign adversary carries a penalty up to 10 years in prison per offense. the law attracted particular attention in section 20 71 of the title 18 of the united states code which makes it a crime if someone who has custody of government documents unlawfully conceals removed or mutilates obliterates, falsifies, or destroys them. the section is not limited to classified information. if convicted under that law, defendants can be fined up to 2000 elders and sent to prison for three years. in addition, the statute says they are currently in a federal office and shall forfeit that office and perhaps most important given widespread expectations that mr. trump will seek reelection again, they shall be this qualified from holding federal office. however, were mr. trump to be charged and convicted under the charge, voters arrive in state

primary elections for the 2020 presidential nomination could challenge his eligibility for that office. asking his name be omitted from primary ballots. each state administers its own elections so the exact process would vary. in general, such a challenge would first go to a state elections board, the board's decision could be appealed and the state court system -- in the state court system whose outcome could turn into the appealed through the supreme court. so there are a lot of questions there. monique in d.c., democratic caller, good morning to you. caller: good morning. thank god for c-span. what you just read, you basically read exactly what the law says you cannot do. you cannot take classified information that belongs to the united states government but he will get republican callers that

are not going to comprehend what you just read, so just relax as they make their comments. i want to say to the guys who keep saying the american people. tatata, the republican american people are upset. i also want to say, when you want to be a gangster in the united states of america, you don't play with the federal system, the state system, or anything like that. if trump's wants to -- trump wants to be gotti, he has to go to the gotti steps. gotti went through a lot of indictments and everything else but in the end he was convicted. so to all trump followers, remember, this is the united states of america. you can break as many laws as you want during the process of you living your life but trust and believe we are coming to get you. host: greg in ohio, independent.

caller: good morning. i have been watching this channel for a long time. i do not know if i'm watching cnn or miss nbs -- msnbs. all this biting going on and all you guys can talk about is trump or abortions or something off the wall. i do not get it. these black people, i am lost, they need to get off the plantation man. host: a democratic caller, bob. caller: i hope and pray that the attorney general has the goods to prosecute trump because he needs to be thrown under the jail. if we were to stole stuff out of the white house, we would be under the jail. also, all you trump lovers out there, lindsey graham's, all you people like that, i do not know

how the hell people from your state can vote for you. how the heck did you vote for the man? host: should attorney general merrick garland hold a press conference and be more transparent about the affidavit, the search warrant, etc.? caller: i believe he should and tell them straight out, this is what we got, this is what we are working on, and this is what we can do to trump. he is not above the law. we do not elect a dictator, we elect a president. everybody hates biden. you have all of these republicans calling in and they hate biden. biden has not tried to overthrow our government yet. host: bobby mentioned the republican response. politico gathered the responses up in an article and trump's 2024 gop rivals rally behind him after the fbi search. this is what they found.

florida governor ron desantis monday night tweeting the fbi search was another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the regime's political opponents. governors like kristi noem and glenn youngkin called the fbi actions unprecedented and stunning. governor greg abbott of texas says the search was level make sony and. to target a former president and rival. rick scott says the biden administration has the history of going after parents and other political opponents. the criticism of the biden administration's handling was not unanimous. chris christie told julie mason in an interview that the church -- search of trumps estate was " fair game." if the actual underpinnings that led to the fbi search checked out. senators tim scott, republican of south carolina, told cbs this morning that americans need to let the situation play out and see what happens, though he also

said it would raise questions about political motivations or the fbi actions. scott's, running for reelection and frequently cited as a potential 2024 contender or trump vice president pick, drew criticism over comments and fumed over a more measured approach. on twitter, trump-pence said it could take it in -- taken him out of the running to be trump's vice president. the former president -- former vice president mike pence tweeting out i share the deep concern of millions of move americans over the unprecedented search of the personal residence of president trump. no former president of the united states has been subject to a raid in american history. douglas in san jose, california. hi, douglas. republican. caller: hello. first and foremost, since we do not now what they were looking

for when they went in there, we do not scan event -- we cannot evaluate what the search was about. why a lot of people are angry about this is because over and over again we have seen, as was mentioned, the weaponization of government agencies, the irs, fbi, have been used over and over again to go after administrations opponents. and for trump supporters, that is what this looks like. day came up with russian collusion, that did not work. they have been hammering january 6. so far they have not been able to connect trump to that. now we've got this. i think in the end, people need to sit back and wait and see what this is about, but in the meantime, maintain a healthy skepticism because of past

events and the fact as i said government agencies have been weaponized against the politicians and groups that they are not in agreement with. by the way, why is no one looking into the biden situation with his son? those claims on video. it is well recorded. but no investigation there. i think that is another thing upsetting people, and thank you for taking my call. host: what would you like to see from government officials on this search that would help you be less skeptical? caller: i want to know what they were looking for and why they were there. what justification did they have so that this judge would sign off on this search? why did they need to take this unprecedented action?

i'm willing to bet if you went to the presidential library of several recently past presidents, you could dig up dirt, but nobody has rated those libraries so i want to know, what were they looking for? host: you mentioned the judge, newsweek did a piece, who is bruce reinhardt, the judge who approved the fbi mar-a-lago raid. from there reporting, they found the -- he has been a magistrate judge since 2018, those judges are appointed by district judges to deal with matters like bond hearings and signing off on search warrants. he previously acted on the defense counsel of some employees of jeffrey, the lake convicted sex offender. the judge studied at princeton and university of pennsylvania and went on to work in the u.s. treasury department and department of justice integrity section. he has also spent more than 11

years as a u.s. assistant attorney but seems to be a federal prospect -- ceased to be a federal prosecutor on january 1, 2000 eight. it also reported in 2011 he was named in the loss and accused of violating department policy by representing epstein employees. he denied wrongdoing and said he did not participate in the criminal case against epstein. reinhardt also previously donated to democratic and political campaigns. in 2008, he gave 1000 to former president barack obama's campaign and a further 1002 obama victory fund. in 2016, reinhardt donated 500 to the presidential campaign of jeb bush who unsuccessfully sought the republican nomination that was eventually one by former president trump. the fbi reportedly removed around one dozen boxes from mar-a-lago monday and the rate has been met with fear from the former president -- a theory from the former president's allies.

it says in the newsweek piece that this judge, this is from home beach county state attorney dave ehrenberg, a democrat, who worked for the republican florida attorney general, he told politico tuesday that reinhardt is known for being meticulous, he will not make the stamp judgments. robert, democratic caller, and massachusetts, good morning. caller: i am from western and i know you cannot pronounce my name. [laughter] here is the story here. remember when donald trump became president and the doctor said he was a stable genius and the naval dr. said he was healthy as everything could be? we need to take donald trump down to the naval base to have him checked out. donald trump as a mental illness

which everybody is not talking about. every fbi agent, secret service agent knows he is on capable of what he has been doing. he has attention deficit disorder, is a pathological liar, has attention deficit disorder, and he is a manic depressive. host: tie that the search -- to the search of his home. caller: he is dealing with the russians. he is dealing with the chinese. every time somebody calls up -- host: what does that have to do with the search for these classified documents? caller: the classified documents tells everything that he is a pathological liar. host: that is robert's opinion. a donald -- an independent, donald in texas. caller: good morning. here's the thing, when a person

becomes a president, everything they touch, handle inside of the white house is the people's property. the only thing the president gets to leave the white house with is the close on his back. the reason why they did the search was because they had been in negotiations and the national archives with trump's lawyers but trump's lawyers were stalling and going we want this up, we legally have the rights to it, they asked the fbi to do their job, they do their job. i worked as a security guard at a dod site and one time i found a cabinet labeled top-secret opened. i was told to stand there until a superior showed up. when they did, found out weeks later the person who worked on that site who left it open was removed from the site. so it is about the rules and laws. that is the thing, with republicans saying they can do

this to a former president, they can do it to you, that is the point. no one is above the law. thanks, though. host: lisa in myrtle beach, south carolina. hi, lisa. caller: good morning to you. how are you today? host: doing well, you? caller: a little disheartened. host: tell us why. caller: with everything that has been going on, especially with this recent invasion at the president's home. i think it was shocking to the whole world. maybe not the whole world because we hear the opinions of the left and it is something i just do not understand. it is just blasphemous. i think that tonight was just --

hearing about what our own government did tower president was just blasphemous. host: ok. james also in myrtle beach south carolina, an independent. your turn. caller: first of all, i would like to make a comment on that second caller you had, the guy from georgia. i hope your family will get you some help because you really need some help. you have let donald trump brainwash you. herschel walker has no business, even in the city limits of washington, d.c., no longer in the capital. i know what i'm talking about. i have known that mean for 30 to 35 years when they took him out of georgia and put them on the football field. to play for georgia. listen, donald trump has broke the law to the point where he

thinks he can do anything he wants. he reminds me of a 16 to 17-year-old that cannot comprehend right from wrong. he is going to do it his way or it will be no way. two months ago, i had a little problem with god because i did not think the man would have the backbone to do it he has finally done and i was afraid because if we let donald trump back into washington, in the white house, we will lose this republic. we will lose everything because he is going to -- he is an autocrat. someone can stand a stroke, use leader and say that camille us -- communist leaders name over our united states word --

people. i'm telling you, this man is dangerous with this country. host: on politics, here's a tweet from the guardian. "republicans are pouncing on the fbi raid at mar-a-lago to solicit campaign funds. democrats are doing the same. hillary clinton sending out this tweet. every but hurt emails -- or emails hats or shirts sold helps build democracy and fight for our values, just saying, she said. putting hats and t-shirts with the saying from republicans that she is hearing, but her emails. this is jim banks who met his chair of the republican committee and the house. he met with former president trump along with other members of the republican study committee in new jersey

yesterday and here's what he told fox news. [video clip] >> i've never seen president trump as fired up as what he was tonight. he has not deterred -- is not deterred, not phased on what the doj has done to him. any unprecedented move of rating the president and not expanding why they did it. the house republicans, there were dozens of us who visited with president trump tonight. we tell him we stand with him. kevin mccarthy will be the right person to hold the department of justice accountable for these actions. house republicans are unified to fight alongside is it in trump to save this country. everyone in the country encouraged president trump to run again. the sooner he gets out and starts campaigning, the better. he helped in the midterm

elections to grow historic republican majority that will pave the way for winning back the white house in 2024. host: commerce min jim banks on fox news. ricky, your reaction to the news yesterday that the fbi searched the home of former president donald trump on monday. caller: he is a crook. everybody knows he is a crook. he spews everything in everybody's face. people have not realized how much of a crook donald trump is. they said the democrats are going to pay fort. no, the republicans are going to pay for it. all of the republicans going along with donald trump, he is going to hurt them like he hurts democrats. he is going to hurt the

republican party. look what they have done with women's rights. that is my comment. host: mark in tampa, florida. independent. what is your comment? argue with us? -- are you with us? caller: can you hear me? host: yeah, we can. caller: i think what people need to understand is -- i am in tampa, florida. host: do you have your television on? caller: no i don't. host: please talk, we are listening. south dakota, susan. democratic caller. caller: good morning. i can't help but think of the movie "don't look up." i don't know what kind of power trump has on these people other

than there are people waiting for someone like him to break the law, to get violent so they can show themselves on the streets and on social media. trump has destroyed our country. i have been saying this for so long. when it comes to the search warrant, it was not a rate. it was a search warrant. this guy had boxes that belong to the united states of america if anybody thinks the concern of him sharing that information with pugin or with china, with whomever he chooses because that is how he operates. anything illegal, anything that has to do with him satisfying his own egomania is what he cares about. he does not care about any of these people and i wish they would understand that. now our country is going to,

what? every second civil war was mentioned on twitter yesterday. every second. are you kidding me? i have been scared ever since this man took office. every day he did something to embarrass or shame the american people. he continues to do it. cpac, he probably shared the documents with that hungry man. we need to rush with that -- with that hungarian man. we need to wake up. host: new york times reporting, "when trump left office he took the papers with him to mar-a-lago. along with personal items like golf balls and a raincoat in various other things stuck in. national archives whose mission is to preserve government documents determined many

important presidential documents that archivists new existed were missing and were believed to be in mr. trump's possession. that set up a back and forth between mr. trump's lawyers and the archives about what he might have taken. his unwillingness to turn over documents concerned those at the archives. for the rest of 2021, mr. trump resisted requests to give back the material. mr. trump would waive things like the north korean letters that people as if they were collectors items he was showing off. in january this year, and the official from the archives flew to florida and retrieved 15 boxes of property. when archivists went through the boxes, they found several boxes containing sensitive national security information, including some marked classified.

mr. trump had not returned several documents they believe the former president in his possession." ryan in phoenix, arizona. what do you think? caller: i am watching this, kind of interesting. why didn't the fbi go after hillary with the 33,000 missing emails? the same party going after trump is in office. i think it was an overreach, i think it is a bad look. i think he was good for 2016. the powers that be wanted bush and clinton in there. everybody thinks that trump rudely country, everything is worse under biden. my 401(k) and my gas tank are going the wrong direction. we will see what happens. let's see what the paperwork says.

i feel like the radicals on the left what there to be increases civil war. albuquerque had a serial killer a couple of years and it turns out it was a fellow muslim killing those people. it is a saturday deal. politicians want there to be a race war and division. we need to stay together as people and do some critical thinking. host: how do you react to this tweet from lynn, "i have not heard one republican say trump did not take boxes of documents that were not his to take." caller: that is the case, he did take a bunch of sensitive stuff. i don't consider myself a republican, i don't consider myself a democrat. i definitely think the fbi has been playing politics and games.

they were involved in that kidnapping plot. they have been involved in a few different weird black ops missions. it seems the fbi is trying to stir up trouble. a lot of shady things. hopefully the country can calm down. host: could the attorney general help with that? caller: yes. i think they need to get to the bottom of it. host: should they be public with what they were searching for? caller: you would have to consult his lawyer about that. he is not shy about the cameras. we will see how it plays out. he is certainly divisive so i don't think he is the person for 2024.

host: on the january 6 committee's investigation on what happened that day at the capital, scott mcfarland who is a reporter for cbs news tweeted out a quote from representative scott perry, republican of pennsylvania saying "while traveling with my family, three fbi agents visited meet and assist myself on -- visited me and seized myself on." rodney, democratic caller. caller: how are you? host: good. go ahead. caller: you are free to call into c-span as long as you're not belligerent. if you are one-sided, it is not really matter. i really appreciate c-span. give me a minute to give a shout

out to to c-span. but the main thing i want to see is that i read an article about donald trump in august 2015 written by tony schwartz. he wrote "the art of the deal." tony schwartz followed him three years to write that article. the thing about it is that donald trump, the only book he is writing is "the art of the war." he is using all of the things we have to follow to influence and have his people drink this kool-aid that he -- and they believe he is innocent. if he was innocent, he would tell them to stand on the fifth amendment and just not go. he allowed two people to guide

law enforcement, one because of suicide and one shot on the spot. i don't know how they are going to justify that but they just want to fight. that is what is not fair. we love this country, everybody loves this country. when you are trying to turn it into something where we don't have a mutual law where we all can exist and follow the law, win, lose, or draw, we are in trouble. that is exactly where we are at. one more thing, the emails about hillary clinton. trump spent two years and over $50 million of the american people to finally see that hillary clinton -- i believe it was an innocent mistake. people are saying it is because

they are democrats, that is not it. donald trump took some classified information home knowing it was illegal. if he was in assent, -- if he was innocent, he would tell his people to stand on the fifth. host: michael in maryland, republican. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i think the republicans is a corrupt party. we need to change the name of the party to party of corrupt people. [indiscernible] if the fbi comes up to you for doing wrong, why should they do it?

if ui democrat, you should go to prison. if you are clinton, you should be locked up. if you are joe biden -- locked up. but if you are trump or any republican in the house -- [indiscernible] all of them are corrupt. host: listen to congressman mike turner of ohio. he was on a local station in denton -- in dayton yesterday. he is also on the intelligence committee. he promised to investigate what happened with the search. [video clip] >> the pretext we are being told is that at this rate occurred because allegedly the former president trump had in his home classified information. that is what we are being told.

we have no answers from the fbi. every president of the united states leaves with documents from the white house, that is how they write their memoirs. president biden -- president obama and president bush did not just have wonderful recall. they had access to and were able to use relevant information. the question is what we are seeing in the news, the issue of the classified document. the president decides what is classified. many times he would be standing at the odium and they would say we think he shared classified information. he has the permission to do that. nothing remains classified if the president decides it is not classified. let's get this context, this is unprecedented.

when hillary clinton had her own homebrew server at her house that she used as the secretary of state, classified information was traveling through that server, the fbi did not read her home. they give her a warrant, they give her a subpoena, they gave her an opportunity to work with them and giving them the information on the server. here they rated the former president's -- they raided the former president's home. what information could it be that a former president would have their home raided? this would have to be a national security threat and not just be some books he checked out late. host: that was congressman mike

turner, republican of ohio on the intelligence committee. bob in overland park, kansas. democratic caller. what do you say? caller: good morning. i think mike turner is very hypocritical. if he was a democratic president, he would be saying the exact opposite. the law was passed in 1978 that presidents cannot take documents with them and they have to be archived, that is a law. i am pretty sure president trump was advised about that but he is a belligerent man and does not listen to anyone. he decides he is going to do what he wants to do. the philosophical comment on this issue is that the hopes and

dreams, the pursuit of happiness , the democracy of 330 million americans is far more important than the political omissions of one man. i hope the republicans admit one time what you did was wrong. he should not have taken documents with him. they want to defend him and defend him, every wrong he does, every law he breaks. one day it is going to catch up with the republican party and they are going to lose big time. i think that is when they will wake up and change their ways. host: politico with the headline "why the trump search is not like hillary's emails. the agency is likely on firm ground. they note the former president could clear a lot of the mystery of himself. the justice department official who oversaw hillary clinton's handling of classified records

says there is no comparing this search to the case against the former secretary of state. people fling these cases around to suit their political agenda but each case has to stand on its own circumstances, said david laughlin who led the counterintelligence until 2018. the law enforcement has to -- the former general and cia director pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for mishandling classified material. for the department to pursue a search warrant tells me the quantum and quality of the evidence in an affidavit an agent swore to was likely so pulverizing in its force to eviscerate any notion is search warrant in this investigation is politically motivated. 24 hours after it transpired, there remain few details why the

fbi raided president trump's private estate beyond questioning of records that appear to have been relocated to mar-a-lago after he last -- after he left the oval office." monty in texas. good morning, monty. caller: my statement is for the republicans and trump fans. that is what you are if you are supporting trump at this point, you don't have facts to stand on. everything is a conspiracy or how you feel. on january 6, trump proved he did not know the constitution. he proves he does not understand executive privilege, the -- act. in the recent statement he said he would like to get rid of the, talk act --i would ask anybody,

is this the man you believe will save our country by leading us down the road to a an and republic -- two a banana republic -- to a banana republic? the what's your praises. he wants you to go after the haters for him. this meant sink his twitter followers on american citizens, on representatives who are doing nothing more than their job for years and vilified them. this is the man who is going to save america. i wait for any republican to tell me how a man who does not understand the constitution and what the vice president's role is, how this man will save america. host: jean, an independent. your take on this? caller: good morning and god bless you. i just got off my knees praying

every day of my life. this is not about the donald trump. this is not about taking over. i think we have forgotten history. i can barely talk for crying. they came for my mother and her dearest friends and there was nobody left. i am telling you right now, this is the united states of america. this is not about political, it cannot be anymore. this has to be about civilized people and protecting our peace and security. i pray every day -- i cannot say anymore except that they came for me and you did not see. host: john in virginia,

democratic caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to tell the people listening, we don't know what the fbi has. they don't do their business on the television. they do their business with the court system. they know exactly what they are looking for. when they raided that house, they already talked to the secret service. the venue they were coming 45 minutes or one hour before they got there. donald trump, they gave him every opportunity to return those papers. people need to understand, the fbi knows who donald trump is, he would not give up any paper. he would not follow any rules. every time he set with potent, he would rip up every paper they would talk about.

the papers belong to the american people. it is the document and rule of law that needs to be followed. i will tell you this, the congressman was explained to us -- was expanding to us -- was explaining to us what the congressman has. jim jordan, kevin mccarthy, all of these people know what the fbi has. they know what is coming. they don't want to get investigated. i am not defending the fbi, a lot of us don't like the fbi. but the rule of law, if you break them, we will not have a country. the rule of law we must follow, every one of us. please hold down your judgment, let the fbi do their work.

if donald trump thinks someone broke the law, come to the television and explain to us what happened. they have been talking to him many times to bring those papers back. host: they are calling on the former president to release the warrant because he has a copy of it. attorney general merrick garland is being called on to unseal the affidavit so the american people can see exactly what the fbi was searching for. archie in arnold, missouri. democratic caller. caller: good morning, greta. thank you for taking my call. i like the conner smith from ohio -- the congressman from ohio that was there a while ago, i think he is a liar. host: he was not here, we were just showing a clip of him. caller: he is just try to put a different color on their game.

like they were saying with this guy who won in wisconsin, he is a puppet and how many more people are a puppet that don't understand what the united states american taxpayers are about. the irs which was just increased, these people need to pay their taxes. in two pet mind in order to get the united states of america on its feet -- i need to pay mine in order to get the united states of america on his feet. this is what trump has done over and over and over and look how the country is falling apart. host: hank in south carolina, it is your turn. caller: i am not a big trump supporter. i just cannot figure out -- you hear so much.

there were 50 special agents on this raid. they don't do that many? . host: the number from news reports is 30 and that they went in with plainclothes. caller: okay. i heard 30 went in but if there were actually 50, some securing the grounds -- but that there were actually 50, some securing the grounds. it just looks bad. what was so important that they had to do that? i understand somebody open his safe. host: as far as securing the grounds, it appears that may have to happen in the days following monday.

here is the daily mail with an exclusive. "police received warnings that armed protesters are planning to descend on mar-a-lago following the fbi raid. palm beach county police recommend all people be on the look for motorists near the president -- the former president's home. supporters camped outside the mar-a-lago club and arrived shortly after it emerged the fbi was searching the former president's home. the president accused the fbi of double standards saying they allowed hillary clinton to wash 33,000 emails." caller: one thing i would like to say is this is what the democrats always do. they cannot defend what they have done to this country so they are trying to stir things

up all the time. it is ridiculous. as far as biden and his son, nothing is ever said about that so i think it is a big joke. host: marietta, georgia. independent. caller: what i wanted to say, especially to black americans, for you to -- the fbi have been nothing but terrible to us and our leaders. did you forget how they treated martin luther king? the fbi lied.

the fbi is not to be trusted, neither is the cia. the cia went around the world to freedom fighters and killed. you are going to have the nerve to say you believe the fbi? they are not to be trusted. they don't do anything like they have been doing. they are not to be trusted. what they do to trump -- what they did to trump, you think it is funny but when the host: we will leave it there. we will take up break. jeremy dillon joins us to discuss the climate provisions in the democratic inflation reduction act. later, foundation for defense of democracy discusses what is in the additional $1 billion military aid package to ukraine that the pentagon announced

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continues. host: jeremy dillon is with us this morning. he's here to talk about the climate provisions in the inflation reduction act and i want to show our viewers the headline for your peace that you wrote after the senate vote. after yes of failure, dems claim limit victory. what have democrats been trying to do and what did they win? guest: the reconciliation bill has been going on for almost a year and a half and negotiations have gone left and right, up and down. what they have been trying to do is something with the energy sector to try to get the nation on track her climate. they passed the senate which was the hardest part so far. the senate has notoriously been the chamber that has not voted

through climate action. the senate hasn't acted in decades. the fact they actually came to an agreement and actually got something through his on you mental, historic for the nation. 369 billion dollars in climate action which is a record for the nation. it is based on all -- a package that incentivizes to deploy renewable energy and clean energy sources to get going. analysts estimate it could reduce emissions by 40% by 2000 -- 2030 which is a portion of the way to the paris climate agreement. it is a significant jump. 15% boost just from this bill alone. host: $10 billion in tax credits

to build wind turbines and solar panels how does that compare to previous efforts on that, evs, solar panels, wind turbines. guest: the fact that the wind and solar tax credit gets a 10 year extension, especially an extension on this deal is monumental in the sense it gives incentives for financers to get into this project. it has existed for a wild. it got extended in 2015 for the first time for five years. we saw the renewable industry take off. it's been an insane amount of deployment over five years or an extra 10 years is going to be, they say it can increase financing by almost two fold to almost $300 billion. host: what is this do for climate change efforts? guest: it reduces emissions.

a lot of reducing emissions is based on electrifying everything we do. our cars, home appliances, all that stuff you have to have a clean grade to get there so you need renewable energy, nuclear power, carbon capture on the grid to clean up the electric. before you can do the other stuff so having all the tax credits is monumental. it lays the foundation to get emissions reduction going on an economy wide scale. host: $7,500 tax credit rebate for electric vehicles. what is the car industry saying about this? guest: it's a little all over the place there were fears there wouldn't be an electric vehicle tax credit in this package because senator joe manchin, the key negotiator has been opposed to it. he had qualms with critical minerals, the fact the united states doesn't really produce our own critical minerals.

we rely on china and foreign nations for things like lithium and nickel and copper. it goes into the battery systems of electric vehicles. to go headfirst into electric vehicles, senator manchin wanted to ensure we what had a critical minerals supply so he backed this new ev text credit with the sense that it would be tied to critical minerals. they can only use it if they source 50% of their critical minerals based in the united states. to deploy the electric vehicles. right now, no electrical vehicles qualify for the credit. do they have the supply chain that qualifies for all this stuff? it remains to be seen about how quickly they can get it going but senator manchin, that's the whole point. the domestic critical mining industry, so that we are not reliant on foreign nations to get this going. host: in a statement released

sunday, president and ceo of the alliance for automated innovation said a tax credit in this inflation reduction act approved by the senate will immediately reduce the number of vehicles eligible. 70% of the electric vehicles available to buy in the united states will become immediately ineligible once the bill passes and none of the vehicles qualify for the full credit. guest: it is challenging in the short term. the goal is the long term here. there are things to the credit that make it easy to use peer there are things that you have to climate on your tax return, the dealer can take the credit say you need to get the savings on the electric vehicle. there are safeguards that senator manchin put in their two only really bill of benefit, not the wealthy buying these vehicles. marlow -- more low income people buying these cars and there is a credit for buying used electric

vehicles which is new for the first time. that was a way to get the industry going from the ground up. host: are these cars going to be affordable? guest: that is a question, right now they are pretty expensive. i think one of the other big things is having a successful ev charging network which is in the bipartisan infrastructure bill. that is a key point about the reconciliation bill is it goes lockstep with the infrastructure bill. president joe biden has already announced a plan for nationwide electric charging networks which can really help. hopefully, if more people are willing to buy it helps bring the cost down. host: we are talking with jeremy dillon this morning of emd news we want to get your comments and questions as well here it here are the phone numbers for your republicans, (202) 748-8001.

democrats (202) 748-8000. and independents (202) 748-8002. allen in fulton, mississippi. you are up first. caller: [indiscernible] host: allen, good morning. republican color fulton, mississippi. caller: [indiscernible] host: allen, are you there? let me go on to jane in california. caller: good morning. the situation a lot of people don't know that right now gas prices went down $.90 all over the country. plus, joe biden and the rest a few of the congressman voted on

it will reduce the deficit. this will more question, can i say anything about the search warrant? host: we are moving beyond that. jeremy dillon, your response to his observation? guest: gas prices are going down. they peaked earlier this year due to a lot of circumstances. it really helped supercharge inflation. the fact that they are going down does give democrats some cover here to pass this reconciliation bill. there have been a bunch of studies from business school that said it still doesn't affect inflation much but if -- it is a big idea. if you deploy too much electric vehicles or too much green energy onto the grid it could spike prices and cause things to

go out of control. but the fact they are saying this won't cause electricity prices to go higher, that may actually help in the longer term to bring them down. that is a big deal and will help make the economic argument for climate action. host: democrats have the votes in the house. guest: it sure sounds like it. it sounds like representatives have been concerned about the tax deduction for coming back down. house are really united around the potential for deploying green energy and climate action. it is actually in a way that promotes all of the above clean energy strategy that includes carbon capture, nuclear energy, hydrogen protection, host: does this help with what

we are hearing from the car industry? that the rebates are ineligible for these rebates? guest: there is still a ton of money for manufacturing both in electric vehicles and clean energy so it is bringing home a lot of the cost of producing from this technology. a lot of it is overseas right now. so if we built it here, it helps make the economic argument for climate change but also helps bring jobs to some of the states. you will see a lot more deployment of advanced manufacturing in some areas. the credit is actually tailored that half of it goes to areas where coal mines or coal plants were so it's a way to transition away from fossil fuel days to kind of this new clean energy. host: john in wisconsin, independent. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call.

as far as the subsidies go, i am recently retired and i am still working. i was making 60, $70,000 a year. i did not pay into the federal government tax system annually. majority of people that are in, i would say 150 thousand dollars in the last four years don't pay into it so they can't reach 7500 dollars tax credit so i can understand, i don't think a lot of people understand how the tax credit system works. host: jeremy dillon? guest: the tax credit system is kind of the way tings have always gone with this energy system. congress has had a hard time mandating climate action whether it be cabin trade in 2010 or

whether it be requiring phasing out vehicles or anything of that nature. this is really more of a approach to get people to buy the cars. the tax credit has been tweaked a little bit so they can be passed around a little bit more so that may be people don't to pay into the text system can benefit as well. there is truth in there that it should make it more available in the future once the cars start qualifying. host: robert in acts a can -- atkinson. caller: think you for taking my call. i just kind of had a observation. my feelings of it is i'm pretty optimistic that we can start to turn that energy need around to be environmentally friendly. like i'm hoping.

the other thing i'm wondering about because i will be 60 77, i'm still working. i recently changed jobs because the commute to work was killing me with the gas prices, but thank goodness it looks like that is turning around a little bit. the thing is, with the vehicles, i am 67 and still working and have a regular vehicle. i am wondering about whether we have interest in the hydrogen or compressed gas or magnetic rail? host: let's take those questions. guest: it's a great point, it should have been mentioned with the credit. joe manchin negotiated that hydrogen powered cars can qualify as well. he has a plan, i know toyota is

really interested in hydrogen power. hydrogen is also going to be pretty critical for trucks and stuff like that. the tax credit can help that industry going as well. there is a lot of alternative vehicles that are kind of pump -- sponsored. that kind of gets those emissions down. host: when it comes to homes, they go from $9 billion for energy efficient home retrofit. what is the conclusion? guest: this is something you and i, or people who own a home can qualify to get the benefit. this is to help electrify your home of the bit. they be you put a heat pump and instead of gas burners. i know my mom who lives up in the northeast still has a gas /oil powered heat which is too expensive now. so she has been looking at a

heat pump but they are expensive. right now they are a little expensive to buy. labor, installation it's like putting in a new central air system. she would qualify for a rebate under this program and it would probably pay for that he pump itself. and it brings the labor done by half. other appliances qualify. this is a way to start bringing energy efficiency to the homes in a way. we don't even realize because so much of everything is plagued and we turn on the heat and we don't realize where it comes from. host: for those of us who want to buy something new when does this kick in? guest: the money should go to do eta right away. i think they have to go through whole program.

i'm curious to see how they will implement it. a lot of the programs are based on the recovery act after the financial crisis. they are really building on a lot of the things the obama administration had. maybe sooner than you think. host: $20 billion. guest: this is one of the big ones. agriculture makes up about, it supports leading omissions in the economic sector. it makes up about 14% of total u.s. omissions. finding ways to bring that down is overly good way. agriculture is an important tool and will cause jumping the carbon that is in the atmosphere and using plants and their natural biology to suck it up and put it into the soil so this is science to help look at it very different ways to see how the agriculture community can help the climate. host: money for research?

guest: research and implementation. demonstration programs, there is money for farmers to start cleaning up how they just either agricultural activities kind of help reduce omissions there. methane is a big problem, republicans like to say calfire's --cow farts. so to reuse a lot of that stuff whether it be reuse the methane to burn somewhere else or capture it in some way. it's a big preview for next year when it comes around here demoed -- emma kratz will start thinking about the climate. this could be a preview of things to come next her as well. host: $30 billion to transition utilities to clean electricity. guest: this is a huge section for environmental adjustments. legacy, pollution has always

been a problem especially for inner-city were sometimes low-income communities are forced to live and connect to power plants where the omissions because higher rates of asthma, lung disease, cancer, all those things so a lot of this money is going to help these communities transition their power plants faster than some of the other points. tax credits as well, you get an extra boost if you place your facility closer to one of these environmental facilities. this has been a really focus for democrats. it's a way to kind of help transition some of these communities and get them cleaner air. get cleaner buses and it's a way to help bring down that as well.

host: joe, democratic caller. caller: i was calling, you know it's kind of disturbing hearing some of the comments people make. we are normal, healthy, rational human beings. god gave us the ability to know right from wrong. nobody on earth is century. what this happen is -- host: are you talking about climate change? caller: yeah. what our president has done is he has taken the concerns of the majority of the world and brought it to the forefront but he's not getting any support from a fraction of our democracy. actually, combated properly without criticism and politicizing it. so i think we have to check

ourselves as americans to look at how we are treating each other, politics or not. this is a global concern. host: let's talk about the cloven -- global concern because you hurt republican say we can do the cutting of omissions but it doesn't matter because china will keep doing what they are doing. guest: it's been a valid criticism. the united states has already on the way to cut omissions by almost 25%. when you do show the commitment to spending that the united states has not shown before, it does help in the international negotiations. john kerry who is the climate person for president biden, he told lawmakers this is helping him to start helping other

countries reduce their emissions as well. we are meeting our commitments, we can hold other people to honor their commitments as well. the other factor here is we are laying a foundational manufacturing base for clean energy technology. if we take care of our emissions we can start exporting technology to the rest of the world. some of the technology and the export of the 21st century i think you are seeing it's a big component for department of energy research. it's the science of the chips and science bill. lawmakers realize that if you develop the innovation and the technology for some of the problems the world is facing right now, you can actually be the economic winner for the rest of the century. the fact they are throwing so

much money into this and you fracturing, it's really laying this base to kind of be the big exporter of clean energy. host: independent from tennessee. you're talking to jeremy dillon. caller: yes, ma'am. host: good morning, go ahead. caller: ok i wanted to ask a question. are there going to be sending out anymore stimulus checks? host: jeremy dillon covers energy policy. we will go to billy. caller: hello? host: hi, good morning. caller: yes, hello? i want to call about the text guide that you have on their yesterday --there yesterday.

[indiscernible] talked about how he wants to give tactical gear, weapons. host: again, jeremy dillon covers energy policy. that is our focus this morning. baton rouge, louisiana. caller: hi, i would like to ask mr. dillon small marginal look clear power plants that can't be melt down. will it facilitate the pillow may -- the plumbing of that new technology? guest: yes, it will be a there is a production credit for nuclear power. we have been after nuclear power forever so some are really celebrating right now. it will keep existing fleets

going right now. advanced reactors are smaller, they are more flexible, and they are going to be key for hydrogen production as well. there is a lot of excitement around the deployment of regulatory commission is finishing fine tuning the final regulations. there is hope that one of those can be deployed by the end of the decade. and hopefully the quicker they circuiting deployed the more they can qualify. host: republicans including -- republicans calling this excessive spending. let me show you what he had to say on the senate floor. [video clip] >> so-called root inflation reduction act is chocked full of green new deal spending. things like $1.5 billion, billion dollars for a program to

plant trees. $1 billion for electric, heavy-duty duty vehicles like garbage trucks. something that communities used to normally provide for. of $3 billion for the u.s. postal service to purchase zero emissions delivery vehicles. $1.9 billion for things like equity and identifying gas in tree canopy coverage. yes, madam president. democrats are apparently willing to send us into a longer term recession or stagflation in order to provide billions of dollars for things like road equity and identifying gas in tree canopy coverage. also democrats provide more than

$60 billion in this bill for environmental justice. $60 billion. put that number in perspective that is more than what is spent on highways in 20. the bill also contains at least $30 billion in flush funds part of which is allocated for climate related political activity. yes, madam president, climate related political activity. because for sure there is nothing more than families are struggling with ballooning grocery bills and the high price of gas are eager to see their tax dollars going towards green deal activism. host: jeremy dillon? guest: he is making a lot of points that republicans have bought desperate at.

i don't see a need for it. he mentions some of the tree canopy stuff. a lot of that money, so cities tend to get hotter than the surrounding suburbs. in a world where we see records being broken where there is a crumbling infrastructure having trees and shade helps in that way. i think that is a lot of the democrats are coming from. i would also mention that one of the republicans mean agendas is called the killing trees in mission which is a plan to troll -- kill trees across the world where they sick of the carbon from the atmosphere and put it into the soil. trees are actually bipartisan. some of the other stuff like the u.s. postal and history, u.s.

postal server -- service trucks and the garbage trucks that is all part of the wider transition to kind of start cutting emissions and getting rid of some of the cars that run on diesel which is even worse for the environment. endorse for lungs. obviously there is a divide there. i think once it is all laid out and done there is a little bit, senator manchin went along with it he has a history of applying it. i think this only would have been included in the reconciliation package rather than something that was more bipartisan or limited. host: rick, republican. welcome to the conversation. caller: good morning. i have a blueprint.

i want you to type this in. if you start tracking all the oceangoing ships that leave america. raw materials from wrecking yards, dr. a ship, oceangoing cargo ship goes across to south korea. once it goes to a plant, the process goes to well to a dock, back to the united states to distribution plants. if you start tracking the fuel consumption to manufacture you will find out we use more raw fuel to do that. if you go to bunker oil.com it will tell you what it costs.

1000 -- over $1000 per they are only paying a few cents a gallon. a ship will go 25 feet per one gallon of oil. if you track that the u.s. coast guard and find out how the ocean cargo ships come to america's port and leave america's port with raw material to foreign countries, that is your carbon footprint. that is a waste. host: i'm going to jump in. guest: it's a great point. bubble economy is, you know, it runs on oil right now. it's really hard to go back and forth. what up a lot of this does is try to on the clean energy manufacturing. there is also a huge portion of it meant for companies to clean, companies like the industrial

sector to clean up domestic production of some of these materials as a way to make the u.s. ability to produce the stuffed cleaner than the rest of the world. it's also going into the carbon border adjustment tax which has been kicked around as well. it has bipartisan interest in the senate as well. this could be a future policy for people to talk about in the future. but this is the way to help recognize that the united states does a little bit cleaner job of producing some of these materials then having to send it back and forth which does a caught -- which does cause a lot more emissions. host: scott in michigan. democratic caller, you are next. caller: i was wondering why they don't put windmills and solar farms on charging stations for

the ev that would cure the problem for all the energy. thank you. guest: that's part of it. there are systems where a feature, a lot of it is storage related as well so what they want to do is have an all in one system. we may have only solar powder -- pap -- solar power on a roof. we can plug our cars and ended charges and it costs minimal money. they are looking at everything, all systems and all of that. for the deployment we do need a ton more energy on the grid. host: alabaster, alabama. karen, welcome to the conversation. caller: i just wanted to say this whole man-made climate change thing is one of the biggest hoaxes perpetrated on us

today. if you look at germany, for example, they have been using renewable energy for probably the last 10 years. 50% of their energy comes from that. what does germany worry about? they are worried about freezing to death because they are not going to be able to generate heat because the renewable energies are relying on natural gas from russia. in order to run these renewable energy, we need fossil fuels, natural gas is a fossil fuel. so 80% of the world's energy comes from fossil fuels. this whole renewable energy thing is just, it's a joke. it's not man-made. if you did your research, you would know that. before the industrial revolution we had an ice age. the saw melted somehow. it's all natural. guest: climate change is real. it is happening.

even in the last couple of months, california is drier than it has ever been. my brother lives out in l.a. they can only water their lawn every tuesday and thursday. europe just had record-breaking heat waves that is melting rose and caused thousands of deaths. wildflowers are burning out of control in the west right now. hurricanes are becoming more extreme faster than they ever have been, so this is happening. glacier melt is happening and freaking out scientists right now. climate change is happening. it's happening -- to the point of germany they made some decisions that were not in their best interest. they moved away from nuclear energy. they are starting to reconsider that especially in the aftermath of this russian invasion of ukraine. they became too reliant on russian fossil fuels and it's come back to bite them in the but here.

i think there is a lot of acknowledgment that natural gas is really important to our climate future. it's built up a lot to promote the development of fossil fuels as well. senator manchin negotiated pretty stringent provisions in here that make the biden administration hold resale on public men offshore and onshore. there is acknowledgment that the demand is still there for fossil fuels and there will be in the probably next two to three decades. it kind of throws everything at the wall to see what sticks. another key part of this bill is the carbon capture. technology that enables you to

capture the carbon emissions as they burn and coming out of the powerplant and the industrial processes. the united nations has widely acknowledged that the technology is needed in the coming decades to get the globe off of fossil fuels and a transition the world to cleaner energy. especially if they can develop it, right now it is still working through cost concerns and deployment issues. but the 10 year of the tax credit is really critical for helping get those costs down and getting deployment down. if they can do that, we can may be continue burning some of these fossil fuels and continuing to use natural gas in a way that helps renewable energy. it can act as a backup option as long as that carbon captured it can help. host: mike in houston, texas.

caller: i find it interesting that the caller from alabama engined germany there is a case study in what is failing them for the quality of life there is deteriorating and i'm sure he's a great guy, but he has a difference to people freezing to death or paying 50% more for their heating energies for the winter months. just a cold indifference or there is no case study on any country that is prospering from you -- what you are mandating because it doesn't work when you whiplash the economy were 95 percent of transportation, 95% of goods moved by way of fossil fuels. with these mandates, the urges with flashing companies and to just constantly impact. housecoat let's take the whiplash comment. guest: there are mandates this

is all money, the tax credits this is all something to incentivize people. there are no mandate in there. i think whiplash is a key thing. you are starting to see it with fossil fuel the transitioning away from fossil fuel production into more clean energy manufacturing jobs that mention the tax credit. if you invest in your facility you get more money out of that. there is a adoption. you don't see that in this bill. does it come down the line with the technology and the availability and affordability is more widely available, it could be. but that is probably a decade away.

that is probably the next climate bill that will need to pass. it trend -- the trend continues. host: debra in naples, florida. republican. caller: i have a question. don't you think they should protect the power grid before we go all electric? there is nothing to protect our power grid right now. we will have nothing. host: ok, jeremy dillon, the power grid. guest: it's a big issue here. especially ensuring grid reliability. i think that is where nuclear energy really comes in big here. it's a baseload clean energy power and that's why lawmakers really tried to shore up the missing nuclear fleet as a baseline for power production. as much as you want to go on the grid, it is dependent on energy storage becoming much more whiter available and longer

lasting. the wind it doesn't always blow the sun doesn't always shine so you need to have a baseline to keep power going. though this is on the mind of a lot of people. i think that is why this is always going to be a gradual increase of clean energy. i think the utilities will start to game out where they are going by 2050. there are a lot of things they can adopt. a lot of the made voluntary commitments to get there by 2050. they think they can do it. host: romney, southern pines. independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a quick point into question. climate change hoax or not, i would suggest everybody watch the movie called -- it's a

natural cycle the earth goes through every so many years. secondly, what about all the stripmining that happens everywhere else, away from america? is there anything in the bill that provides for planting trees? there's thousands and thousands of acres for stripmining but where children part. there is nothing left there anymore. is that environmentally good? and also, it's not just -- it is for everywhere in asia. guest: a lot of those are international so they are not addressed in this bill. this is for domestic energy production and transitioning the domestic climate emissions. i would say the critical mineral act like she mentioned is an aspect of this.

senator manchin was worried about having some of these minerals being sourced from other countries. part of the ev that we talked about was the domestically sourced critical mineral. it hauls the mining to this country or our standards are a lot higher and the need to not rely on foreign change. climate change israel, it is happening in real time and we are seeing it. host: climate change provisions over the week and the house is slated to go on friday. energy reporter, if you go to e-news.net or on twitter at jeremy dillon that d.c., thank you. guest: thank you. host: up next foundation for defense of democracy. what is in the additional $1

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additional $1 billion in weapons and equipment from the department of defense inventories. this is the lingle's -- single largest drawdown to date. the package provides the significant amount of ammunition and equipment which the ukrainian people are using so effectively to defend their country. capabilities of -- include the following additional ammunition for high mobility artillery rocket systems, 75,000 rounds of 155 millimeters artillery ammunition, 120 millimeter systems and rounds of associated mortar ammunition. munitions for national advanced surface to air missiles. 1000 jeff noddle systems and hundreds of a t4, antiarmor systems. 50 armored medical treatment vehicles, personnel nations, c4

explosives, demolition equipment and medical supplies to include first-aid kits, bandages, monitors and other equipment. these are all critical capabilities to help ukrainians repel the russian offensive in the east and also to address evolving developments in the south and elsewhere. united states is committed to approximately $9.8 billion in security systems to ukraine since the beginning of the including one -- $1 billion sent . host: can you talk specifically about the aid, these military weapons? what are we talking about here and how did guest: policy calling had the press conference on monday and he ran the list pretty thoroughly. what i would highlight is that

this is the largest we have seen during the biden administration. i would agree that this is what ukraine needs right now, in particular, the high mobility artillery rocket systems. they have 16 of those already. it sounds like a lot but these are effective systems and the guided multiple launch rockets that those use can go about 70 kilometers and they can hit very precise targets so the ukrainians use that target bridges and that is what that has done on the battlefield is forced russia to in some cases move their forces back and slow the reinforcements. in some ways it is the beginning stage of ukraine's counter fair. host: an additional $1 billion, i think the united states has spent since the conflict $23 billion.

where are we? why is this war not over? guest: the 9.8 billion dollars in military security systems, $9.1 billion of which happens has occurred since february 24. there is other parts of the system. talking about just military system it's the 9.8 billion number. the average american listening and watching, taxes are high, why do we want to send money to a far off place? my answer to that question would be the stakes are incredibly high. not just for ukraine and europe but for americans. it is essentially a contest between two worldviews. one held by vladimir putin and the other that the people of ukraine should decide how they are governed.

thousands of ukrainians have died defending their homes. they are not asking us to fight for them. they are asking for the means to defend their homes. think this money means we should continue to provide it. host: is this working? are they winning? guest: winning is a scary word. if you look at the contact -- context without getting too boston it is a reclining j and at the top we have the khaki which is the second largest city in ukraine which is close to the border of russia. then you draw that, come down the line and then the don't ask regiondo --nesk region. even though that city is so close to the russian border be able to send that and push out as much as 25 kilometers per the russians don't want them to get

any closer to the border. a real central or -- center of fighting we have seen some ukrainian successes. putin wants to take all of donbass. if it successful they are trying to get the rest of lobesk. it is slow and has come at a tremendous cost. connell said on monday he estimates russian casualties have been 70-80,000. that includes deaths and injured the cia has a slightly number number. about 15,000 deaths but this mean extraordinary if you think about viewers and listeners should not let the numbers wash over them. that is 15 -- 15,000 deaths in six months that is extraordinary. then the positive news from those who want, which ukraine well they were using their

bravery, their agility combined with systems the guided rocket systems and they have used them to great effect and have been able to retake some territories. what we have right now is a race to reconstitute and reinforce forces particularly in the south where the action is going to occur in the coming days. host: we have a tweet from a reporter that claims russia lost nine aircraft yesterday. presumably all at an airbase. guest: so the context is this is not the first time that vladimir putin has invaded ukraine. some will remember 2014 he invaded crimea and illegally annexed it. under international law crimea is still ukrainian territory but being controlled by russia. the early days, a little bit

unclear what it was, but the choice of that was. but social media suggests some aircraft were destroyed there have been multiple fires. host: russian strategy here and how they have been faring. what sort of weaponry are they using? guest: normally i would say moscow tried to make that an issue and it focused on the capital and a lot of people focus on the stuff for many years but frankly that they would do better but they struggle with this majestic spirit this is hard. ukraine is roughly the size of texas. you have them coming and in multiple prongs. there is a term combined arms were you try to integrate your infantry, artillery and all of the forms of military power and sequence them in a way where you

are having effect. russia struggled with that. that is the reason we talk about that. in ukraine, because they are joining the bravery and the weapons we provided so after that the decision was made to go for less and focus on the west and the self and that is what russia has done since then and they have had some success in taking much of the donbass and they established a land bridge from russia to crimea and they have taken a good portion of ukraine's coastline on the black sea. it has been the big develop. house -- host: extended grip on ukraine, what are they doing here? esco people like me they focus a lot on missiles and aircraft but there are certain ways to fight wars. you know, russia has used it in this conflict. there is an information war

going on here. i think we are seeing it unfold a little bit in crimea. i would suspect that that was probably a ukrainian attack. the airbase in crimea, that would mean they have another failure of the missile defense systems. host: we want to take your questions and comments from this conflict. independent from the louisiana. caller: i want to know, why you are not telling the whole truth? russia went and under article 51 think we always do. 2014, a lady bragged about overselling the ukraine and now y'all sit here and tell us propaganda about what russia did. what did victoria newman do? thank you.

guest: thank you for the call. my response to your question would be let's try to set things aside and look at what happened here. you had russia conducted an unprovoked invasion in crimea in 2014. they launched a war. it was a russian backed or, thousands of ukraine's have died defending their country and now on february 24 the largest land invasion in europe since world war ii. so, what is that mean? when you invite someone into your home, would you permit someone to come into your home uninvited? that is exactly what is happening in ukraine. i would urge you to reconsider that what is happening to his not stay in ukraine. the world is watching. north korea is watching, beijing is watching. they would like to see how nato, the united states response. they made determined they can

accomplish their forces elsewhere. i think the state, the stakes are quite high here. host: is there any indication russia is backing down? guest: russia has thousands of casualties. armored vehicles destroyed. roads reporting that there are russian prisoners. some of these individuals are showing up on the battlefield and not treating ukrainian people very well. i was quickly highlighting that vladimir putin's first trip after he got worst -- to the worst part. the results reporting yesterday from cnn that russians were in a run as we speak training on drones which -- russia will use against ukraine.

so sometimes in the united states, we are great we are powerful. but we need friends and allies. we need to understand that china, russia and iran are working more closely than other. it sounds host: what is it mean for the iran-nuclear deal? guest: this administration is sitting down with a radical islamic republic in iran and they are funding the islamic jihad which is launching missiles at civilians in israel and they are working with russia to provide drones to kill innocent people and you and we are acting like nothing has happened. i would like these issues to be brought up at that negotiation and sometimes we focus on narrowly, we miss the context. host: don in ohio, republican. caller: all the weapons and

ammunition we send to you rain which is depleting our inventory -- is there inventory being replaced? guest: that's a great question on that's something i follow fairly closely. when you see the press releases coming from the pentagon and state department, look for keywords. when you see draw down authority and we used that term earlier, this is the 18th draw down, it's clear what that is. it's taking the dod equipment and sending that to ukraine and i have supported that as having served in the u.s. army and because the stakes are so high, we have to monitor that closely because we have to ensure that our forces are ready to protect their interests. the drawdown allows you to send the equipment very weakly. they've literally been on the ground three or four days after announcing it step we had 8-12

aircraft arriving per day but that has declined a little bit. this has been a focus for congress and members of the senate armed services to make sure we get the equipment quickly to ukraine and replenish our own forces. we have bashed our defense industrial base through the years with the budget control act of 2011 and too many years when we had insufficient defense spending that our defense industrial base struggled to provide our own forces weapons. when you add ukraine, it's a real challenge. none of that is to say we should be doing this but this is an area where we need real congressional attention, funding and authorization to make sure we provide our own forces what they need. host: steven in connecticut,

independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to focus -- what i didn't see in the report is intelligence. it's clear that the war is going at we new phase. we went to the airbase which is incredible but i like to focus on intelligence and what is the intelligence model? cambridge university did a study on this. it's the artificial intelligence gaming model that would overlay on ukraine and these guys are highly ethical people so maybe

they don't buy into that we are protecting innocent men, women and children from evil. guest: intelligence has been an important aspect of the conflict in you crane in the early days and particularly march. i published articles to encourage the administration to publish intelligence and there is some debate within the administration and lawyers got involved and i'm happy to report now that we have been providing intelligence to kyev that's been used to target invading russian versus so to have affected combat plans, you need weapons and intelligence and i'm pleased that the united states and our allies are providing that intelligence. host: president biden yesterday,

before he signed ratification documents to add finland, approved finland and sweden's entrance into the u.n., he had this to say stop [video clip] > we continue to remain vigilant against any threats or shared security and deter any confrontation and confront any aggression or threat of aggression that might come up. i urge the remaining allies to complete their own ratification process as quickly as possible. for more than seven decades, the strong united nato is been the foundation of american security, not just in europe but the basis of our security around the world stop it's how we lead the world together with those nations that share our vision and our values. critical now to deter threats before they harm our people, our allies and their interests. host: what happens next after

the united states does what they need to do? guest: i view nato is one of the most successful alliances in history and a great strategic asset to the united states. i don't view it as a burden. our adversaries in beijing and moscow dream of having allies like we do and i think we take our allies for granted. i view the addition of finland and sweden to the alliance as to teaching assets and not liabilities. they bring very significant military, they are not huge but they are very capable. their geographic location and finland's knowledge of dealing with russia based on history, these are capable partners. when you have them in the alliance, you can write them into war plans and make them assumptions that it uses deterrence and i would highlight , look at the history here. who does moscow invade?

they invaded and occupied non- nato member countries. they occupy in invaded georgia. moscow does not invade nato member countries and haven't for 73 years. it's a reminder that soft power is important, diplomacy is important but what's happening in ukraine reminds us that hard power is important as well. host: what happened with turkey's opposition? guest: after the accession articles were signed at nato headquarters since july 5, from august 3, you had 23 of the 30 nato member countries ratify through their national procedures the addition of finland and sweden to the alliance. the u.s. senate voted 95-10 step if you follow the popular debate

in the balance of callers who think it was a minority, it was 95-1. josh hawley was the only no vote. it's hard to get that to vote on if the sky is blue these days. i think it is a resounding statement of u.s. support for transatlantic security. the president has signed it in their assent -- seven countries left to go, the czech republic, greece, hungary, portugal slovakia and turkey. the two countries to watch might be hungry and turkey. hungry led by victor orban had an unfortunate disposition toward vladimir putin. erdogan and turkey often has been a nato ally but doesn't act like one. he bought -- they bought a nato -- and air defense system.

host: is it possible they could be excluded from the nato alliance going forward? guest: it has to be unanimous. the investors in brussels from those two countries have signed off on this. it seems that erdogan will get every last concession he can before his government potentially joints. host: what does he want? guest: he wants concessions and commitments related to what he views as kurdish terrorist groups. he's got an election coming in is looking at domestic public opinion and he is making the most of it. caller: this question has been bothering me for some time. we've been in this work for six months, why is it the ukrainians have a large population, why

don't they have a million man army by now? why doesn't the whole country mobilize like we did in world war ii? we had a story in baltimore about how a young man was 17 years old and he was saved by the people here, the ukrainian people here bringing him over because he was about to be drafted. i don't understand why they don't have -- they are not more invested in this. guest: thank you for the call but i would respectfully suggest that your assertion does not align with the facts step i will tell you that ukraine and the ukrainian people are fighting fiercely and bravely and they are dying and being injured by the thousands in the country. the truth is the opposite of what you say. sometimes when we want to work with allies and partners abroad and sometimes our partners are

not as capable or determined as we would like. i assure you that is not the case with ukraine. i've been so impressed with the bravery and agility and skill with which they are fighting i think an additional investigation into the facts and d bills, -- and details, you will agree with me. host: who funds your group? guest: as someone who served in the u.s. army 15 years and worked in the u.s. senate for eight or nine years, i chose this group is i believe in what they do. the foundation for defense of democracy and we want democracy to be more powerful than autocrats, tyrants and terrorists and we are a 5013 c. we focus on foreign-policy and national security and we don't take it dime from foreign governments. we don't take any money from

foreign corporations. i focus on defense issues but we haven't taken assent for -- from american defense companies. people invest in us because they agree with this but i say what i believe is right. host: from another viewer on twitter -- guest: ukraine has demonstrated a willingness to negotiate. there was a negotiation about grain exports which is born some fruit despite russian intransigence. moscow views this as a weapon of war food. ukraine is ready to talk but vladimir putin has no willingness to talk in good faith. he needs to leave ukraine and that is the bottom line step everything else is kind of fluff step host: michael, plainfield, illinois, good morning. caller: good morning to you and

your guest. i don't mean to be rude but patriotism, somebody once said -- said is the last refuge of a scoundrel. 15 years in the military and going to washington, i think has tainted your views. here are my two questions -- are we trying to defeat vladimir putin or are we trying to manage him? what i mean by that, he is sitting on a larger nuclear arsenal than we have. they spend what little they have on modernizing that nuclear arsenal. he is not somebody we should be kicking sand in his face. my second question is related -- i totally disagree with you on this one step there were

provocations. unfortunately, people like you, this professional class of people, is the same old crowd all the time, not you personally but all those clowns. they've got this mindset that anything we do was ok. when other people do not perceive these actions as anything other than provocative, we are like we can't believe it. these people are people and devils and so forth and this is why we don't make any progress. he can't leave ukraine and you know that. he would have to be kicked out for his people to leave the ukraine. they will fight for as long as

it takes. this will be a smoldering timebomb which will low up in our faces at the wrong time because the chinese are helping him. eric good buddies in the american business community, made them rich and supplied the weapons to them, let's not forget that. host: there is a lot there. guest: thank you for the call. i believe i am informed by the u.s. army and the senate and as i suspect, you are informed by your background but i also have something to learn from others. are we trying to defeat or manage vladimir putin? for my part, i would advise we should try to defeat him in his unprovoked war of choice in ukraine. as i speak about these things, i suggest ways we can do that. you are right that russia has of formidable arsenal. you are right that there is a

lot of nonstrategic nuclear weapons that are not governed by a treaty. some people call for a no-fly zone and some people call for sending u.s. troops into ukraine. as much as i hated what vladimir putin was doing in ukraine, i thought we should beef up our posture in eastern europe. we should give ukraine what it needs to defend its own territory. that's essentially what the biden administration has done.i was critical of them for being slow and losing valuable time from november to january but since february, they have operated admirably. h.r. mcmaster's, the former u.s. national security adviser talks about strategic narcissism also it's the idea that everything that happens in the world is a reaction to the united states. i think we have to guard against

that. we are powerful and there are ripples that go far and wide. not everything that happens in the world because of us and that everything that happens is a reaction to us. our stakeholders have their own interests to pursue regardless of what we do. the only question is how we respond. there are terrorists who just want to kill us as we learned on 9/11 and we might consider that beijing just wants to establish authoritarian control over taiwan the way had they have done wrong. he will push as far as he can go until he hit something hard so i think we need to bring a little humility that not everyone is a reaction to us and some people have agendas. host: hobby air in laredo,

texas, republican. caller: good morning. on the situation with the overwhelming stuff at the border , these people coming in and they are not vetted and overwhelming her border patrol, i was not the trump band but one thing he did that was effective was making mexico more accountable. host: are you tying this to ukraine and russia? caller: no, this is about the border. host: patrick and d.c., democratic caller. caller: i am a democrat and i wish the democratic party could bring back senator wayne morris

from arguing. he was a dear friend and strong supporter of president johnson's war of poverty. he disagreed on one issue. that was vietnam. he voted against the gulf of tonkin resolution and he was very lonely and that position because there is such great support for south vietnam. 10 years later, the popularity shifted. i feel the same thing is going to happen in this ukraine-russia situation. all this great support for ukraine will evaporate once the casualties of our american blood will become apparent.

we will then have to deal with the consequences. it was terrible what vladimir putin did like entry kissinger stated -- like henry kissinger stated, something more will happen unless president biden aggressively negotiates with vladimir putin to end this horrible, unnecessary killing of innocent people in ukraine. host: let's take your point. guest: thank your for the call. it's important to remind folks that u.s. troops are not fighting in ukraine. you mentioned u.s. casualties and the only way there would be u.s. casualties is if vladimir putin invades nato. then the u.s. will fight under

article five. that's more likely to happen if we don't stand strong in ukraine so by standing strong in ukraine and reinforcing american and nato military posture in eastern europe, we can avoid the things you fear. i don't want any american casualties either. henry kissinger was someone who criticized nato enlargement. many have tried to claim the enlargement of nato for this war step my analysis is that is not supported by facts. nato is not an offense of threat to moscow. the reason why he resents nato enlargement is that once a country becomes a member of the alliance, he can no longer coerce, bully and invade them.

don't buy the rushing talking points that nato is a threat to not -- to moscow. host: lorton, virginia ali, an independent. caller: good morning. i have to agree with the previous caller if we are trying to manage vladimir putin or defeat putin. to defeat him would require boots on the ground. united states was receiving intelligence about his intentions. currently, it's just innocent people and money going to the

defense complex and keeping vladimir putin from ukraine. guest: this thing about managing versus defeating, there is a lot of nuance. we can talk about what that means in ukraine and russia but this broader debate is very specific connotations for what we started with and that's weapons we are providing. we talk about the high mobility artillery rockets, there are different things you can use for that system and the ones we are providing a range of about 70 kilometers. we can provide munitions that would attack that much further. that's the debate on capitol hill. there is concern that if we provided those, those would be evocative to putin and would reach far into russia. that's being debated on both sides. i think we are too quick to self

deter where we fear what vladimir putin will do and we don't support ukraine but you can take that concept too far and i think serious people have to discuss the maximum we can do to help ukraine while avoiding direct conflict between the united states and russia. host: a democrat in east chicago, indiana. caller: thank you for the "washington journal" and c-span and i want to thank the moderators you have their. you are on biased and you do toe the line. especially you, i look forward to you. i'm in support of democracy and especially to support ukraine but a side note, is it hypocritical of us to be supporting the occupation of palestine?

i do not believe israel is a democracy, it's an apartheid system. many politicians go there to visit the israelis, no one's been to the gaza strip to see the conditions the palestinians are under and they just want their country back. i totally agree with supporting ukraine but aren't we being a little hip nickel and supporting the occupation of palestine? guest: thank you, i would respectively but vehemently disagree with you. i believe israel is our best ally in the middle east. its interests and values are aligned with ours and i don't know if you followed the news recently but the palestinian islamic jihad has launched hundreds of missiles at israeli civilians. this is a response to some arrests in the west bank so israel arrests some terrorist

plotting the attack in trying to address an imminent threat in the iranians launch rockets, hundreds of them at israeli civilians. each one of those in many cases is to work crimes because the palestinian islamic jihad is using human shields which is a war crime. the facts would suggest you were wrong and if you look at the nature of democracy and israel, the apartheid slander is out of line. i'm talking about palestinian islamic jihad. the wart last may was between hamas and israel and thousands of rockets were launched at israel but the most recent attack was the palestinian islamic jihad. both of them receive funding support from iran but the palestinian islamic jihad does in particular. caller: good morning, why do we

tip our hat to vladimir putin and tell him what we are sending over there. we should keep them in the dark step do you think vladimir putin , do you think the people of russia will overthrow russia once he starts losing? how does the ukrainian air force look rather like right now? guest: the first question was keeping vladimir putin in the dark. there is always someone who would advise the senate armed services committee, a balancing act between what you keep secret and what you disclose. sometimes, things are classified because the administration doesn't want to answer tough questions and sometimes it's classified for good reasons

because you want to protect your sources and sometimes you want your friends and allies to know what you're doing and sometimes you want the adversaries to know what you are doing. if you look at the list on the $1 billion arms shipment, it's detail in some areas but not others. we have 75,000 rounds of artillery which is specific step we are delivering 1000 antitank weapons and then we are doing hi mark ammunition. the press briefing on monday, it was brought up how many and the answer was vague. do we want vladimir putin to know how many are coming? i don't want to do anything to help vladimir putin but based on my research and discussions, i would tell you we are not

delivering the hi mark ammunition as quickly as we need to d considering that this is a race to resupply forces that will have life or death concert that's is on the battlefield in ukraine stuff moscow has been lying about the number of casualties and they don't want the russian people to know. they are trying to control information and send people were not in the intelligentsia to fight and die in this war. vladimir putin in some ways is destroying two countries. he's trying to destroy ukraine and decimating his own military and is not serving the legitimate interests of russia. russia needs to realize the best path to security for moscow is to respect the sovereignty of its neighbors. until they realize that, we have

to recognize that hard power is the only way to deter this. in the early stages of the work, moscow tried to establish air supremacy over ukraine and many people predicted they would be able to do that easily but they have not stop six months into this war, it's amazing, russia is not established air supremacy over ukraine stop ukraine air force is still flying and fighting and that's it writable. that comes -- and that's incredible. it comes back to the bravery and training of the ukrainian people. it has to do with our training but in the recent strike in crimea, it looks like some russian fighters may have been destroyed and that tact and that a significant. host: the senior director at the center of military political power and the foundation for democracy, thank you for the

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: we are back in open forum on any public policy that is on your mind. this is a headline just raking on the economy. this is from cnbc and it says the headline consumer price index for july rose 8.5% year-over-year and was flat compared to june any commas were expecting in creases of 8.7% and 2% and core inflation which strip out food and energy prices saw smaller than expected in pieces. the federal reserve away the report with other data ahead of their september meeting where it's slated to hike interest rates again step susan from fort

myers florida, independent, what's on your mind this morning? caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i want people to know that i am a pacifist. i don't side with anybody. i am definitely for world peace. i'm going back to the gentle man who was on a little while ago. you have to go further back to world war ii. first of all, hungary has always been a slab of meat between the east to the west for almost 2000 years and no one ever discusses that. the gentle man who was on a little bit earlier as far as wars go, let's go back to world war ii. the united states took russia as its ally, doesn't that help russia in the future?

would that help them gain power? i think we gave them a lot of ammunition. host: also happening to day this morning, former president trump is in new york to testify in the states civil investigation. let's hear from bernard in dallas, texas, democratic caller.

caller: good morning, people want to know how we got donald trump. they were looking for donald trump ever since civil-rights. they found that this is the guide they were looking for and when he became president, he said to come out of the shadows, i'm your man and they been looking for this guy and they would do anything because they would rather have a dictator in the white house than have anybody else of color running the right -- running the white house. host: orange burke, south carolina, democratic caller. caller: good morning. i would like to say that it seems like they will do

something with donald trump. i would like to comment about the african-american men for missouri yesterday saying that trump was the best president that we ever had. i would like to know where he has been all these years with all those other presidents who were much better than donald trump. i hope he never sees the white house again. i want to know from the people in south carolina, when are we going to get rid of lindsey graham and tim scott? they have done nothing since they been there for the state of south carolina and i would like to see them gone. get out and vote them out, please. host: at the white house yesterday, president biden signed the chips act into law, the in raised domestic production of computer chips in

this country. [video clip] >> the chips and science act supercharges our effort to make semiconductors in america. those tiny computer chips, smaller than a fingertip that of the building blocks for a modern economy powering everything from smart phones and dishwashers and automobiles. there are as many as 3000 semiconductors per vehicle made today. americans invented semiconductors. they powered the mission to the moon, it brought down the cost of making them. as a result, over 30 years of go, 40% of the global production of these chips were in america and then something happened. american manufacturing, the backbone of our economy was hollowed out, we let semiconductor manufacturing go

overseas and as a result, today we barely produce 10% of the semiconductors. despite being a leader in design and research. as we saw during the pandemic, the factories that make these chips shut down in the global economy came to a screeching halt, driving up costs for families around the world. 1/3 of the core inflation lasher was due to the high price of automobiles and a shortage of semiconductors. folks, we need to make these chips here in america to bring down everyday costs and create jobs. don't take my word for it, listen to some of the business leaders who are making decisions right now about where to invest and ramp up productions for the semiconductors. many of them are foreign investors and deciding where to

go and they've chosen the united states of america. you look at china, japan and self korea and the european union all making historic investments of billions of dollars to attract businesses to their countries to produce these chips. key industry leaders see america is back in leading the way. host: president bynum at the white house signing into law that chips act which is bipartisan legislation that passed in the house and the senate. they were asked about that persistent coughing during his remarks. >> he experiences coughs from time to time independent of him getting covid and what he is experiencing now is the lingering effects of covid which is something i'm sure many of us have endured. that's what you are seeing at this time.

there's no update needed, we said this was a possibility and have been clear about that and we shared that he has an inhaler that he uses from time to time because he has experienced the coughing as you heard from before covid. what you are seeing right now is the lingering effects of that and we spoke to the doctor about this and that's what he relayed to us. host: today at the white house, the president's signing another piece of legislation into law, the health of veterans exposed to toxic burn pits. this legislation passed the senate 86-11 after it was opposed by senators. there were still 11 gop senators who voted against the pact act when it passed and these are the

11 who opposed it. you can see the list right there. let's hear from scott in texas, independent. caller: all politics aside, i am a former marine and i'm very upset over the innocent targeting of civilians and children in ukraine. i want to personally self ploy to ukraine for my reason, not the governments reason. there is no reason civilians here cannot to ploy their under their own initiative without being challenged with war crimes for their actions. host: fairfax, california, republican. caller: i'm not sure this is a public policy issue but my issue

is abortion and has been for a long time. i've seen it affect my family heavily. i'm one of those that's not really favor of roe v. wade overturned that's happened. i just want the consciousness of people to be raised around the issue because if you think about it, you realize that it's a human being we are talking about, to human beings in the case of the mother and the baby. i think it's a very important issue and should not be swept up in politics with the different factions and so forth. host: republican in bryan, ohio, good morning to you step caller:

i want to lighten up the moment a bit give a shout out to walter in butler, indiana. he was featured on c-span the other night. host: walter is famous but i don't know if walter knows. caller: he was on monday but he didn't act like he knew. we are about 20 miles from butler so when he called, i kind of listened and it's a nice little town and he should brag about his young people who have been on a roll lately. their town is full of talented young kids and they have gone great -- gone to great things. i'm proud of him and being 20 miles away in a we are in a similar situation up here stop i thought it was funny and a shout out to walter. host: has your local paper done anything with it? caller: not yet. we are in ohio and that's indiana so

host: not far away the stuff caller: they've got a great little league field, it's a great town. host: lowell in ohio. caller: good morning. i see the president is signing the burn pit bill so the veterans can breathe a little easier. the only trouble is, why do we have those burn pits in the first place? batteries, tires, all kinds of junk gets burned. that's the military for you. they can do whatever they want and then they won't help the veterans. the veterans pay the consequences and i think it's terrible.

they pollute the air by dumping all their problems into the water. that's about all i have to say but i think the military should think twice about how they get rid of their stuff, thank you. host: james from newark, new jersey, independent. caller: [indiscernible] i was in the military and i know what it's like being the militia. i don't know why so many people want to choose the militia. the militias out for one purpose, antigovernment. host: david in new york, independent caller.

caller: good morning. i wanted to speak about the russian aggression to ukraine. it's much deeper and broader than russia and ukraine. russia has developed a series of governments to broaden their sphere of influence. [indiscernible]

they have to stop making back deals. they just want to secure their own security and plunder other countries. host: ron in texas, republican. caller: good morning. i've got two issues, one is the irs. if the people think the irs will go after big business, they've got cpas to protect them. regular people don't have that. it's harassment coming after the common folks. secondly, the president and this executive order whether he's a democrat or republican, we should have a congress and

senate if the president is going to do it all, why do we need the congress and the senate? host: deborah, republican, oregon. caller: i would just like to say that i've seen many republicans defending donald trump over this raid at mar-a-lago. i have not seen anybody say he didn't do it. they've come up with every reason why they shouldn't do the raid but no one has come out, including himself and said i am just not guilty. he is obviously guilty or he would not have had 15 boxes to give back. i wish my republican party would come back to its senses, thank you for the call. host: 15 boxes were retrieved in january by the national art dives this week when the fbi

searched the property. they obtained another 12 boxes yesterday. a group of conservative members are leading the republican committee and they met with former president trump in new jersey and he talked about their meeting. >> i've never seen president trump is fired up as he was tonight. he is not fazed at all but what the -- by what the doj has done to him. they did not explain to the american people about why they did it. there are dozens of is that visited with president trump and we wanted to go until tell president trump we stand with him and when kevin mccarthy, is speaker of the house, jim jordan will be the right man at the right time and the right place at the chairman -- as the chairman of the house judiciary committee to hold the department of justice accountable.

house republicans are unified more than ever to fight alongside president trump to save this country. everyone in the room incurs president trump to run in and when he gets out campaigning, that will be better. he is growing in a store republican majority over the next two years will pave the way for winning back the white house in 2024. host: that was jim banks and fox news talking about his meeting with the former president. jacksonville, florida, what is your public policy issue? caller: thank you for accepting my call. the whole wide world needs to remember that the soviet union lost 24 million people to come back and defeat the nancy's --

the nazis. that's what they lost. let's not lose sight of that step host: georgetown, indiana, credit caller. caller: good morning. i am 85 years old. it seems that people don't stop and think. i would like for people to think about the term unusual truth. there are truths that never see the light of day we hear these people talking around all the time but we need to look for immutable truth. and we need to look for the

proof of their belief in their concepts. it's extremely important. these people don't know what it's like to be a legislator. host: here is a tweet -- tim from arkansas, independent. caller: hello and good morning. for your callers, i'm surprised

at c-span callers who miss so much. the office of the presidency is the ultimate authority on what is classified and unclassified. to have the archivist go in and say that the ex-president has stuff that's classified, he's the one that decides and is under no obligation to tell the archivist what is and was isn't. this raid is furtherance of democratic plan. they are so scared of trump that they want to destroy democracy by not letting the people vote for the candidate they want. that's the whole reason for the january 6. it was the culmination of the,-biden crew that started back when he was elected. when they started using old antiquated laws to trick and capture mike flynn and so many

other of those who support and work for donald trump stop it's amazing to me how the countries hatred was unleashed over a president who put america first. host: democratic caller, we've got less than i've minutes left. go ahead. caller: ok, i've got five minutes. host: not just you. caller: i wish. the guy that just called from arkansas, he sounded sensible and rational. he's missing an important point.

to me, from the time trump got in, republicans postured themselves as almighty and all righteous and america first. you have the rest of the world to consider whether people like it or not. whether it's defense or economics, at any rate, it drives me crazy listening to this stuff. he just said president can declare anything unclassified. no, there is a procedure. you don't stick it in a room in your personal library. that is property of the archives. yesterday, pam brown was

interviewing a representative from ohio who was concerned about this horrible raid on poor president trump. she gave 25 examples were donald trump in his administration weaponized the doj. host: i want to show our viewers the room at the white house. jon stewart who was on capitol hill with veterans is pushing the lawmakers to vote to approve this act act. he is waiting for the president to come out and sign this legislation. as you recall his fiery speech on capitol hill after the senate surprisingly opposed it3+. they thought it would pass over the following weekend and a lot of measure built and they did pass this pact act. let's hear from mary and front

royal, virginia, independent. caller: thank you for having me on. i was very concerned when senator banks was speaking. he was talking how to trump has rallied for the rnc and the majority in all these kind of things for two years? it seems to me as i have research that we have had a certain individual since nixon was in the office. it was -- they felt it was necessary for our country to have permanent republican majority for maybe 150 years. what good will that do our country? we were set up to be able to

represent all factions of our country, our united country. i have wanted to say that for a long time. thank you for the opportunity to say it where many people can hear it. host: democratic caller. caller: a lot of great calls. i will go all the way back to what we were hearing from a lot of people on the right side of the aisle with abortion. i read my bible. as a democrat, i read it thoroughly in the case came up. i agree that life starts with conception but as i read that bible, i never saw that it was a sin against god.

what makes me mad, they are taking the bible we all hold sacred and turning people away because they are lying on it. a lot of times, we can say they did that with slavery. they lied and said the bible says you should be a slave. the microcosm is these politicians are using these things to stay in office. host: i want to go back to the white house and show viewers house speaker nancy pelosi, she is sitting behind jon stewart, they are chatting ahead of the president signing this pact act for veterans exposed to burn pits. democratic caller. we will hear from you. caller: i know there are a lot of issues but i wanted to bring focus to the war on drugs. i think we have lost the war on

drugs and he has destroyed south america and is causing our immigration problem. we are sending out guns and the player information -- low reparation of drugs. -- if we could control it somehow, put all the warnings on those drugs, maybe we could stop so much of the mass immigration with all the gangs that are everywhere. that is my take. it is like the whole mafia and stuff with alcohol. host: i just want to let viewers

know what you are watching. the president is about to sign his pact act. lawmakers, cabinet secretaries, veterans, jon stewart, a big group gathered at the white house to watch the president signed this legislation into law. donald in raleigh, north carolina, independent. caller: three very quick points. on the trump raid at mar-a-lago. number 1, the nuclear codes are classified. there have been chinese spies caught at mar-a-lago. do not say it is wrong until you know the facts. i do not think trump classified the nuclear codes. point number 2, people believing

the big lie about trump. chapter 2, the 11th voice says that is when they prefer to believe a lie. the bible says -- host: dave in california, independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. every time i think that biden could not screw up more than he already has, he does something else that ends up blowing up in his face. this raid on trump's home will be another example of that. post: i will leave it there. like we said, the president is signing this pact act interlock today at the white house.