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fighting crime. policing, crime, law and order are all back in the news this week. we want to get your thoughts. which party do you trust on these issues. we want to hear from you. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. you can also text us at (202) 748-8003. we are on facebook. you can send us a tweet. we are also on instagram. we will get to your phone calls in just a minute. first, we want to show you a little bit of the rhetoric surrounding the fbi's search of donald trump's home in florida. here is the top republican on

the house intelligence committee representative mike turner. he is with fellow republicans during the press conference on friday were he gave his take on that search. >> i want to begin by stating that all of our members of this committee are in full support of the men and women who every day work to keep our nation safe at the fbi and the department of justice. we condemn actions of violence against any law enforcement personnel. we have serious questions concerning the actions taken by the director and the attorney general to raid mar-a-lago. both of them are subject to oversight by congress. it is our job to ensure they are not abusing their discretion or politicizing the powers that we

have given them. earlier this week, we requested that they disclose to our committee the national security basis upon which they have ordered this raid. many other options were available to them, we are concerned of the method that was used in rating mar-a-lago and the nine hours that transpired while they were in his home. we are glad that the attorney general has begun the process of releasing some of the information to the american public. the public deserves answers. our responsibility is to make sure we are part -- give oversight. they will release the warrant and the and vittoria. it will still leave many unanswered questions. that is why our request remains that the director of the fbi and the attorney general disclose the national security threat on which they based their decision

to order a raid on the president's home, there were many other options available to them. we believe that after the release today that these questions will still remain unanswered. host: we also saw many members of congress commenting on social media about that fbi search at mar-a-lago. here is a tweet from marjorie taylor greene. she writes: here is another message from another republican, paul gosar of arizona. he writes:

we will take you to a couple of messages that came from democrats. this is representative adam smith from washington state. he writes: we will share one more tweet. this is from michigan representative debbie dingell. she wrote:

let's get to some of your calls on this question of policing, crime, law and order. first, we will speak to john in new york on the republican line. it good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. in the past couple of years, we've witnessed a lot of things going on. there has been a lot of dangerous activity. i believe the republican party -- i'm a republican. i am not really happy with the republicans as i am with the democrats. in this case, the republican party has the moral high ground.

i say that because democratic support for the burning and looting of our cities, the destroying monuments and everything. there is clearly a double standard. they went into president trump's home. could they have issued a subpoena? could they have done things in a more congenial manner to get this? i'm not trying to make excuses for president trump. it seems there is a clear double standard. there was a double standard with hillary clinton. a clear double standard with eric holder. sandy berger, i remember his name. he tried to escape with classified information. he was handed a life sentence.

i heard on television he just got his law license back. he didn't get punished that severely. roger stone, clearly for sensationalism. armed people there. muller calls cnn. peter navarro arrested at the airport. this is intimidation. i think people have to wake up and see incrementally this government is moving in a direction where it is starting to use force, like this capo tactics. to intimidate and coerce the average american so they won't object.

it caller: good morning. the main thing i called about was to ask you to make sure these people stay on topic we are going to be hearing about what hillary clinton did it, what barack obama did. they might go back to ulysses s grant. they don't stay on topic. they don't watch the news. they must not watch the news. some of the stuff they are talking about has already been in the news. it's already been proven to be wrong and they are still saying it. then they talk too long. bye-bye. host: next up is rad in kentucky

on the independent line. -- brad in kentucky. caller: i wish i could be confident in the news. what biden has done here, i don't know if he comprehends what he has done. he has set us down at half it could spin out of control very quickly. using federal troops on a former president. it's a pretty bad move. this is something that his gone -- it's an attack on the peaceful transfer of power. it's the insurrection that people find january 6 was. it's an attack on the peaceful transfer of power. if one administration cannot transfer power to the next without fear that federal agents

will be rifling through their clothes, there is no peaceful transfer of power. lincoln did not send federal troops to chase the confederates down. johnson and grant did not do so. they chose to pardon confederates. if lincoln and grant can pardon confederates, joe biden has no right to send troops to rifle through trumps things. host: let's hear it from the attorney general on thursday. he talked a little bit about that search of mar-a-lago. he uses that time to denounce attacks on the fbi and federal law enforcement, criticism of the search. >> let me address unfounded attacks on the professionalism of the fbi and justice department agents.

i will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked. the men and women of the fbi and the justice department are dedicated, patriotic public servants. every date, they protect the american people from violent crime, terrorism, other threats to their safety while safeguarding our civil rights. they do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves. i am honored work alongside them. host: let's get back to more of your calls. next up is steve from missouri on the independent line. caller: thanks for taking my call. i would say i trust the democrats better than republicans. i don't know with the republican party stands for anymore. they are so far out there. i think they are all paid off by

russia. they are a treasonous party that needs to be put down like the civil war. i am not all in with the democrats. i don't know, a lot of people don't want to vote for them either. that's my case. i am not voting it all. there ain't no independent person to vote for. i definitely will not vote for republicans. have a nice day. host: next up is ronald in north carolina. ronald, are you with us? caller: yes. host: go ahead. caller: i was hearing people calling and saying they wouldn't vote for republicans.

people need to wake up. they are voting for satan. the country doesn't have a chance. the republican way is the only way to go. you'd better wake up. biden does not like black people. he's got two faces. i just want you to know. host: next up is neil in pennsylvania. caller: hello. good morning. first, the democrats -- the republicans appalling conduct in the past, not to impeach the idiot trump. we have a good system of government. we have a good system of elections. we have a lot of bad people in government and elections. mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy,

their unwavering support of donald trump is criminal. they are talking about how they invaded his home. why did he have these documents? why did he take them? he's not supposed to take classified documents to his residence. their unwavering support of trump is the biggest problem in the country right now. stop supporting donald trump. host: ok. blake is on the line in mississippi. caller: i love this country. i think we need to be honest. the woman that got emmett till killed, she was right here in mississippi. right in my backyard.

they find a warrant from 50 years ago. this is a child. i feel sorry for her because she is old. when do we get justice? the world see this -- sees this. the world doesn't respect us at all. we haven't given black people and inch. we've done everything to stop black people. you like the uneven playing field. you benefited from it. it is a shame. if not fighting for reparations, it's a shame. host: we are talking about crime

and policing and how it has become a campaign issue for candidates on both political parties, on both sides of the spectrum. we are going to talk about the georgia race. i want to show you a campaign add that ryan camp had, attacking his opponent stacey abrams. >> i support the vision that is underlying. we have to reallocate resources. >> stacey abrams supported defunding the police. she is pushing to abolish police. she voted to bankroll anti-police groups. she is dangerous on crime. host: that was an ad from the

georgia governor, accusing his opponent of wanting to defund the police. in response, her campaign has an ad it is running that uses various voices to a cap -- attack the governor on criminal justice issues. >> i've seen all kinds of gun crimes. the new law is dangerous. it makes it easier for criminals to carry loaded guns in public. at the movies. in church. no permit. a background check. i call that criminal carry. brian kemp may talk tough, he makes us less safe. the last place we want more criminals with guns is here. host: we are getting your thoughts on which party you trust on crime, policing, other

law and order issues. let's go to more of your calls. this is christine from ohio. caller: this is christine. i want to say good morning. i am a former dod employee. we were trained, everyone in our office, never take classified off the property. i understand that the former president was given a year and a half of requests for the classified that he had on his person. he refused to respond to their requests. i felt like the fbi had no other choice than to go in and take the property. they did do this in a lawful fashion. this is how they retrieve

classified. it had nothing to do with any kind of fight they had against trump. trump was the one who did not comply to their orders. i don't feel like they had any other -- they didn't have any other recourse than to go to mar-a-lago and retrieve our classified -- the american people's classified information. it should never have gotten this far. host: next up, we have sean in texas. caller: good morning. if any citizen had committed the crimes that donald trump has been accused of, we would be in jail right now.

me being from texas, the police officers did not do their job in uvalde. that's what we hear. host: michael in new york on the democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. it's good to see you on this sunny morning. we can talk about some important issues about leasing and trust. it seems like every time the democrats have to do something like this, like retrieving classified information, it's not the democrats politicizing this. it's the republican party. that senator stood up that the democrats did this wrong. i want accountability. when it is thrust on the republican party, it's a song

and a dance. that's what mr. trump has given us this whole entire time, even after his campaign was finished and he lost the election. this is what is dividing our nation today. we need to get it together. let's just move on. mr. trump has no legitimacy as far as i am concerned. he doesn't bring substance to the office like mr. biden has. stop criticizing mr. biden. he's doing a much better job than trump could ever dream of doing. trump is complicit. he stole documents and got caught. i trust the democrats over the republicans hands down in this matter. we've got corruption of the republican party.

everybody vote. host: we are taking your calls on the issues of crime, policing, other law and order concerns. we want to hear from you about which party you trust. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans, a line is (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. you can also send us a text at (202) 748-8003. we can get your tweets at twitter. we are also on facebook and instagram. let's go back to the phones. caller: let's pretend i am a

mole. that means i am hid. i am down in mar-a-lago and i call them and i say there's no one here right now. you can all come down. they all go down there. they were there nine hours in that place. they go through her negligees, her closet, they take everything. listen, america. they went to extremes to try and find everything they could. they thought maybe january 6 would be the answer, it wasn't. obama has got 30 million digital pieces that haven't been recorded. they get in there and they go through her closet, they go there for nine hours.

what they are after, anything they can find. anything at all they can find to make sure this man does not run for president. thank you very much. think about all of this. host: our next caller is marked in philadelphia. go ahead. caller: -- host: are you there with us? what about cynthia in pennsylvania? caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i do believe that the law and order does seem to be more encouraged by democrats. the reason i am set in my ways is i believe this is all about archives. why on national tv did i watch

nancy pelosi tear up the copy of the state of the union address? you could say wishy-washy or protecting, when you have the speaker of the house, you set the tone. when there are all these different rumors. i cannot imagine if it was something that important that it would've been allowed to leave the white house. i don't believe the president actually packs things when they leave. i'm kind of curious what is the answer to a very public display from nancy as well as a response in mar-a-lago. thank you very much. host: this morning, on the new york times, there are the latest on that search of former president trump's home in florida.

one article says that at least one lawyer for the former president signed a written statement in june asserting that all material marked is classified and held in boxes and a storage area at mar-a-lago had been returned to the government. the written declaration was made after a visit on june 3 two mar-a-lago by the top counterintelligence person in the justice department national security division. the existence of the signed declaration which had not been reported is an indication that mr. trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. it could explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the warrant to carry out the search of the home on

monday. it generated political shockwaves. right next to it, we have an article about the rise in violence that has also been tied in some way to concerns, particularly from the right about that search. that article says in part: let's go to more of your calls

on this issue. next up, we will try mark in philadelphia. are you there? caller: i'm here. you're doing a great job. i just want to say, i saw that tweet from marjorie taylor greene about getting rid of the doj and the fbi. guess who investigating hunter biden and the hillary clinton campaign? it's the fbi and the doj, the same people that they want to eliminate. what we have going on is the republicans want to eliminate the investigations of former president trump, they want to continue the investigations of hillary clinton and hunter biden. the republicans, the only people they want investigated are

democrats and never trumpeters. let them say what they really mean. thank you. host: next on the line is rick in florida. caller: good morning. hello? yes. i am in clearwater, florida. it's what we call a free state. what i hear is very divided in our country. if we could separate our country from both coasts, we need to have two different countries. this is ridiculous. they do not see when the democrats break the law. they have no idea what's been going on. all the media except for c-span, they report on what's going on. nbc, abc, all of that is false.

host: ok. next up is bonnie in pennsylvania. caller: good morning. it is sunday. we should all be in church. i want to disclose that i am a 72-year-old staunch republican. nobody can steal my knowledge. i want to say to the american people we need to forget parties. we need to get out and vote. 25% of registered people vote. it's all talk. travel the world, see how other countries live. we are a laughingstock. we need to stop making the world like us and go back to the way we should live. we need to get along.

we need to educate our minorities. we spend so much money, we waste so much money. politics is dirty. whether you are a republican, democrat, whether you are an independent. unfortunately, a lot of people just listen. if they would see how other communistic countries live and help other they have to live, they would kiss the ground we walk on and stop this enemy. look in the mirror. we are the enemy. thank you so much. host: next on the line is roxanne in maine. go ahead. caller: good morning. the last call, the young lady from pennsylvania, wonderful

comment. i agree with her. my comment was we are starting to recognize it. to be a commonest country, we do not want the civil war. we don't want separation of states. it's ridiculous. we fought for our freedom. this is the united states. we need to work together. i don't care about republicans, democrats. we need to work together. the criticism with donald trump -- he made a comment regarding vladimir putin being a dictator. he said i would like to be a dictator.

i have tried to express to people, we don't need another world war ii. this is where we are being led. anybody understands the benefits of the fbi, cia, special forces, god bless them all. they are doing their jobs. these documents should have been released. don't listen to his words. they are false. all these documents, we don't have to advertise or request over and over again. for him to come out with this? they had to serve a warrant. finally, to get in there and retrieve these things. what is he going to do? sell them to other countries?

we don't know what this man's mind does. i never trusted him. i don't trust him now. be very careful. i have to say this. be very careful. he will lead people down the wrong path. host: i want to ask you a quick question. we've heard people say the search itself is sowing division. you talked about people needing to come together. do you think the search could be counterproductive or cause more divide? caller: i'm hoping that the search -- let the knowledge be brought forth for people to understand what's going on. that's why i'm saying this was a good effort. this had to be done. he wasn't going to release them. he had them stored wherever they

were. anybody could've gotten in there. this is why you have to be very careful. the archives are sacred. he is starting to put blame on obama. you need to put the blame on yourself. that's the way i see it. if we do something wrong, if we are caught, we are told. from the time we are young. this man is an adult. act like an adult. host: we are going to go to another caller. carl is in texas on the independent line. caller: this is charles. host: charles, go ahead. caller: i believe in trump.

i can't believe he didn't get reelected rid he has done so much for this country. he got my job back. he put many jobs back in the country. i don't understand why he didn't get reelected. host: we are going to go to another collar. robert is in indiana. caller: i've never heard -- it's unbelievable. the democrats say lied. look what biden is doing. he's destroying this country. it is so aggravating. i am 85 years old.

i worked all my life. i have to look at something like this. my dad served in world war ii. my uncle fought the battle of the bold. i would have went, i couldn't pass the physical. to listen to these democrats -- i am not a racist. but if you listen to the blacks that are calling in, how much they hate trump. they believe the democrats who have done nothing for this country. host: the next caller is shauna in tennessee on the democratic line. caller: good morning to you. i just wanted to say all of these people talking about trump, the raid was on tv.

he could watch it as it was happening live. anything that was going on, he could have said something about that. there was an informant working with the fbi, telling them that trump had those documents. this is an inside job. he cannot trust anybody. how about jared kushner, egot $2 billion from saudi arabia -- he got $2 billion from saudi arabia. let's not talk about failings. the fact is trump needs to go. thank you. host: we are going to get to a few more calls. as we talked about law and order issues, let's watch a campaign

ad from ron johnson who is running for reelection in wisconsin. here is his ad. >> violent and destructive riots in kenosha, record high homicides in milwaukee. liberal democrats have created the worst crime wave in decades. ron johnson is standing with our brave law enforcement officers to keep families safe. he wants to keep violent terminals the hind bars where they belong. host: let's get to more of your calls. next up, we have tim in maryland on the independent line. caller: good morning. i was listening.

i am a first time caller. i was listening to the topic about law and order and political parties and who you trust. my main issue is the first thing i would like to acknowledge is 90% of the laws that pass are lobbied by the top 10%, the wealthiest people. that's not a conspiracy. that's an actual fact. the other thing is you can't negate that. you can't discount that statement you talk about law and order. whose law? whose order?

if it's the american people, then why are we the most heavily incarcerated country on the planet by miles? you know? law and order is a dog whistle for certain people. the history of our president and congress, men and women in senators shows the middle class, the lower class, we have no say in law and order. this is evident by that history. i am from new york. the history of imprisonment of people in these communities.

it's not one race or another. everybody that doesn't have money is going to jail if they do something wrong, generally. we don't see that for wealthier americans. i don't think that is ever really talked about when politicians address law and order. they never really talk about who is making the laws passed. as far as law and order -- host: our next caller is mark from california. caller: hello. hello there. good morning. let's see. when it comes to law and order issues, i'm not going to support anybody that says defund the

police or allows chaos to happen like the riots that occurred on tv. nothing was being done about it. the police were told to stand down. i'm not going to support anybody that says the fund the police. in california, gavin newsom signs bills into law that would make the gun manufacturers responsible. if somebody shoots somebody with a gun, it's the manufacturer who will be responsible for that shooting regardless. i have had to call the police numerous times throughout my life. the police of always come out and done a good job handling the situation. there is nobody else i could

call. it was always the police. host: we've been talking about law and order issues. let's look at one more campaign ad from val demings running for u.s. senate against marco rubio. she is also a former sheriff. >> an impressive history of public service. >> that's what i've done, as a police officer and as chief. >> crime is down 40%. >> in the senate, i will protect florida from that ideas like defunding the police. that's just crazy. i approve this message. florida, it's time to send a cop on the beat to the senate. host: that his former police chief val who is running for

senate against marco rubio. let's get to some more of your calls. jude is in fort lauderdale. are you there? caller: yes ma'am. i am supporting val demings. over the decades, i have heard ridiculous untruths come out of mr. rubio's mouth. it's about time these democrats and republicans in washington sat down and decided who they actually work for. this constant throwing darts at each other and stabbing each other in the back, it's really getting old. it's really disgusting. thank you. host: the next caller is omar in san diego. caller: good morning.

thank you for taking my call. i will be brief. you've been addressing the situation of crime. just to be brief, i worked the border from -- for 25 years. i can tell you, from what i've seen, whether it's democrats or republicans, people need to remember that in the past, where this started was after 9/11. that's the turn i saw the country take. it was bush who was in the white house at that time with dick cheney. they passed the patriot act. when it was passed, that was the beginning of the end of taking our civil rights away, our

constitutional rights away. from what i've seen it, the republicans and democrats, they are one and the same. it's all about the money. it's all about politics, all about control. this rate it place on donald trump, everybody has their opinion. i can tell you firsthand that eric holder was the one under fast and furious. that smuggled guns under our noses without telling us or letting us know. that got to order patrol agents critically wounded in mexico. it's a funny thing how people in this country have such a short memory. you have to turn the clock back. you have to see where things started to take a turn.

where i see this country going now, i can see this country is divided where we didn't really care who voted. it wasn't that much of an issue. today, it's an issue. it's instantaneous friction. as far as biden is concerned, he is killing this country with illegal immigration. the replacement theory is real. host: our next caller is ron in tennessee. go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. it's about americans worsen the elitists. we've got china buying up farmland, look what george soros

is doing to our political system. this is what's going on in our country. it isn't about republicans and democrats. liz cheney is an elitist. george bush was an elitist. that's why they've gone after donald trump. he's not with that game. they are working to take this country. we have more wealth distribution during covid, the rich got 10 times richer during covid. something big is coming. it's not looking good for the american people if we don't do something. this is one world order stuff. i'm not a conspiracy theorist, that's the way it looks to me. you don't go after a guy four times with no evidence.

he's a billionaire. wake up. host: i want to ask you, you mentioned him as a billionaire, do you consider him an elitist? caller: he's not really in their game. he was working for the american people. he closed our borders. he gave us jobs back. we had a great economy until covid. why don't they want to find out the origins of covid? they used it on us. the chinese are in on it. they are buying our farmland. host: thank you for your call. the next caller is in tennessee. caller: i wanted to tell the american people one thing. this man tried to overthrow the government.

he got a lot of people mad at them, even the billionaires are mad at him. this is the united states. we've got a government that runs for hundreds of years. this one man it came in and tried to do something other people never thought about doing. he pleaded the fifth when they were asking him questions. thank you. host: the next caller is rick and indiana, he's a republican. go ahead. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: go ahead. caller: i'm very sorry.

30% of the people that vote for biden and democrats are brain-dead. i'm sorry? host: go ahead. caller: ok. anyway, i think it's not nice to defund the police because it's not really right. if you look at what the democrats are doing it right now, they want to defund the police. they want to take over the country. they are going to take over the country. it's a mess. they want to follow in the footsteps of hepler. all our tax money to ukraine. if we quit sending money over there, we wouldn't have a war very long.

jb johnson killed kennedy. host: the next caller is gerald in oregon on the democratic line. caller: as far as law and order, i would go with the democrats at this point. you have the republicans right now, they are doing everything to obstruct justice. if they have nothing to hide, think should be out in the open. you are supposed to go when you get a subpoena. i hear people talking about trump.

i don't see anything he's done. he has lined his pockets. host: the next caller is josh in illinois. go ahead. caller: i just recently discovered the show. i really do think it's unique view into the mind of the average american voter. i have a different perspective on the fbi search that happened in mar-a-lago. i don't have any doubt that trump is keeping classified documents just feet away from where he was keeping his roast beef in the buffet line. i'm sure he was. i really do not think any criminal conviction or

prosecution is going to happen of any president. i don't think these institutions can allow for that to happen. if one former president get prosecuted, it does open the door for every other president to get prosecuted, whether it's taking documents from the white house as opposed to turning them in or whether it's ordering a drone strike on a doctors without borders hospital. every president does illegal actions. we will just open the door for the next political party to prosecute the next one. i wanted to say that order patrol guy talking about government taken away liberty is rich coming from those guys considering what the border patrol detention centers and what goes on there.

thanks very much for the show. host: next up is danny in kentucky. caller: can you hear me? ok. you had a caller -- if donald trump was an elitist if he is a billionaire. i note he is in the same category as the real elitists. he's not in their category. he is more for the people. that's because he's an outsider. that's why he got elected. another thing i was wanting to say, people were talking about the republicans making the kool-aid. remember jim jones, he was affiliated with the democratic party. people just don't study history.

that's why they are calling in. they are not really investigating to see where things are coming from. host: the next caller on the democratic line is desmond in florida. caller: hello? i am a first time caller. i've been trying for years. a lot of people are saying why this man wasn't reelected. anyway, when trump got into office, he got rid of certain people for viruses. that he told president xi

viruses were bad stuff. he came back here and lied to us. people still want to be reelected. george bush wasn't reelected after he said no new taxes. if you do something wrong, you won't be reelected. host: our next caller is kirk in alabama. caller: good morning. good morning to the country. thank you for taking michael. you are you are someone kneeled. i haven't -- new. i have never seen you before. you're doing a good job. i thought the subject was who do you trust on law & order issues, but everyone is calling in and talking about the national

business, politics with trump and biden and all the rest. as a new yorker for the most part, pertaining to law & order and issues of the country -- and only -- country nationally, i believe the republicans are better. as a new yorker lived through mayor koch to mayor bloomberg, as a black man, democratic police commissioner's, democratic cities, they are run into the ground. the black mayors, the black police commissioner's, they do not put the hammer down on crime. they are soft armed crime as opposed to the republicans who are hard on crime and did they

are way more supportive of the democrats who are more supportive of the victims of police brutality. in my opinion nationally, city by city, crime wise you might want republicans as your police commissioners. there are more inclined to take crime more seriously and be more inclined to protect into supported the victims of crime. host: we will take a quick break. up next on washington journal we will hear from u.s. news and susan milligan and paul steinhauser. they will discuss the week in politics and campaign 2022. later robert daly will discuss

china's retaliation after nancy pelosi's trip to taiwan and u.s.-china relations. you will be right back. -- we will be right back. ♪ >> in the history of pullets surprises and the oscars, very few winners turned up to receive these awards. one was an armenian-american. he turned down a pulitzer in 1940. he was quoted as saying " such arts awards embarrass art and it's very source." his son has written a lot about his father and his relationship with them. we ask him to talk about his book " last