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congressman peter meyer discusses afghanistan one year after the u.s. withdrawal. live coverage begins at 10 :00 a.m. eastern on c-span, also our free mobile video app, c-span now, or online at c-span.org. we have with us this morning, senior political reporters susan milligan and fox news national reporter paul steinhauser. they will be discussing campaign 2022 the news of the leak. welcome to you both -- of the week. welcome to you both. paul, can you give us the latest on the fbi's search of president trump's home in florida, and where do we go from here? paul: so many questions remain
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as to the fbi search and what are the next steps? what does the justice department do next? this was the story that dominated the world of politics this week. as we start this new week, it remains the top story. what are the next steps by the justice department? republicans in congress, many of whom have stood by the president in the last week, and what does the biden administration say as they tried to keep a distance from this justice department investigation into the former president? host: we consider this almost the end of primary season. where do you think of the race
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stands for control of the u.s. house and the senate? do you think democrats have any chance of expanding their majority in the senate, and do they have any chance of keeping control in the house? paul: -- susan: it is turning more competitive than any of us had anticipated. president biden's approval ratings are still low, but there has been a lot of factors here. it is possible for the democrats to expand the majority a little bit. they will -- you will have to un -superglue my jaw from the floor if they win back a majority in
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the house. it is partly the abortion decision. the democrats are feeling more -- they are a little more motivated and a little more likely to get out. host: we want to get to your calls and a moan it -- in a moment. you can start calling in now. democrats, your line is (202) 748-8000. republicans, dial (202) 748-8001. independents, your line is (202) 748-8002. you can also text us at (202) 748-8003.
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you can also find us on instagram @c-spanwj. there were 10 house republicans who voted to impeach former president trump after january 6. of those 10 republicans, 2 won their primaries. 3 loss to their primaries. -- 3 lost their primaries. 4 are retiring. there are democrats now encouraging democratic voters in wyoming to switch so they can though in the republican primary for liz cheney -- vote in the republican primary for liz cheney. >> you might be surprised that i
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am supporting liz cheney, but principal must always come before politics, and nobody has shown more honor, integrity and courage then she. patriots will put it all on the line to protect our country, and liz cheney has done that. it is far more imported than any policy differences -- important than any policy differences we may have. host: paul, i want to start with you. the fact that of those 10, at most 3 of them are returning to progress and there could be 7, if not 8, who are no longer in the house after the end of this year. what do you think that says about the republican party and trump's influence still on the party? paul: donald trump is hands down
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the most popular, and the most powerful politician in the republican party. it is still very muchdonald trump's party -- very much donald trump's party. he has been on a roll lately. arizona, michigan, some very high-profile gubernatorial primaries. the trump -- politicians trump was backing, those candidatesw on -- the politicians trump was backing, those candidates won. liz cheney is trying to get a fourth term in the u.s. house. she has been reaching out to wyoming democrats, hoping they will cross the party line and vote for her.
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there are not many democrats in wyoming. while that strategy will probably work, there are not enough democrats to help liz cheney win coming up in 2 days as she faces a number of primary challengers, including one who used to be a supporter of hers, who is now endorsed by the former president. cheney has made it clear. if you listen to her language in sunday talk show appearances and elsewhere, she is asked about her father, former vice president dick cheney. she would love to win reelection, by making sure donald trump never returns to the white house is more important. it is as if she is getting ready for another battle, which many think is a bid for a republican
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presidential candidate in 2024. host: what do you make of it that so many of those republicans who spoke out against trump -- 4 of them said " i am not even going to try again." what does that say about partisanship and america? do you think there is any chance liz cheney will prevail with the help of democrats? susan: there are not that many democrats in wyoming. trump is not an ideological leader. he is more of a personality leader. the problem is if you are a republican running in a a primary, you cannot separate yourself from him, or you will not win your primary. there are definitely republicans
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who are with him, and there are some who are trying to stay on his good side, but you look at these races in arizona and maryland, although to be clear in maryland democrats helped the trump-backed republican win the primary because they thought he would be easier to defeat in november. trump is very much so still in control of the party. you're seeing potential challengers try to be careful about -- ron desantis is a great example, someone who decried the fbi search of number president trump's -- former president trump's property in florida. host: before we go to calls, on
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the other cited the political spectrum, ill hunt omar barely -- ilhan omar barely won her primary. what does that tell us about the state of politics on the democratic side? susan: progressive women are becoming a more dominant part of the democratic party, but they are not taking over the party as much as republicans would like to have a lot of the american public think. i was watching the special election in minnesota have more, because that ended up being close. that makes democrats think abortion is working in their favor. i think that is where a lot of the party is moving, but it is
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find that, that wing of the party is not taking over the party. host: let's go do some calls on the democratic line. we have georgia from gonzales, louisiana. what question do you have? caller: i want to know why no one has brought up why he had souvenirs with the presidential seal on it? i want to know why no one talked about that. susan -- host: susan, do you have more information about that? susan: it is such small potatoes compared to the january 6 investigation, compared to what happened with the documents, sensitive documents down in mar-a-lago. i hear you.
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i have never been in a situation like this where it wouldn't be a huge story. there -- host: our next caller is joel from mountain home on the republican line. caller: hello. host: go ahead. caller: good morning. happy weekend to you. sorry you have to work today. i only have about 4 things i want to discuss with you. i think it was a shame that they keep picking on president trump. with 6 years now, they have gone after this man. he was impeached twice. he told us during the campaign that they are. only coming after him, but they are -- they are
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not only coming after him, but they are coming after us. good prices are up, housing prices are up, and when president joe biden took office, he signed 18 executive orders, and i don't even think he knew what he was signing. back to dick cheney --he is the one who got us into the war in iraq. there were no weapons of mass distraction there. hiary deleted -- hilary deleted her emails, and nothing has been done about that. the news people, they hid the information on hunter biden. that was not even brought up during the campaign, but now they still have not rated his house or put him in leg irons -- raided his house or put him in
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leg irons. we are controlled by the communists. host: paul, that color brought up that it seems that -- caller brought up that it seems that there is not enough acknowledgment of the good things that president trump did. what is your take on that? susan: you hear -- paul: you hear that a lot. i was just down in texas covering cpac. that is what you hear from any on the right, many who are devoted supporters of the former president, and they feel he has been wronged and is continuing to be wronged by this fbi raid on mar-a-lago. the likelihood that the president will make another stab at the white house in 2024.
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that color is not a lone voice. there are many on the right who feel like he does. you can take issue with many of the things he said and the factual islet he of them, -- sexuality of them -- and the factuality of them. host: our next caller is from new jersey on the independent line. caller: i would like our guests to address the issues of overrun crime, especially in democrat-run cities. they are releasing violent criminals on bail, who go on to
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do what violent criminals do, which is harm, murder, rob, assault innocent people. i would like them to address how this could also affect the upcoming elections, and instead of trying to impeach president trump the fourth or fifth time for nothing, they should be addressing and looking into this , incentive -- instead of a sham january 6 court. liz cheney is better because donald trump correctly called her a war profiteer. paul: crime -- susan: crime is a big issue. probably 2 of the biggest
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vulnerabilities the democrats have this fall are crime and inflation. i think that is an issue. you would expect a mayor handle it more than members of congress, but there has definitely been frustration with that. we will see what happens as we get closer to election day. paul: in new york, the gubernatorial race there, it is traditionally a blue state. lee's eldon, the republican nominee there, is talking about cashless bail, getting rid of the new prosecutor in new york city. crime is front and center in some very prominent races.
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republicans have been good at saying every democrat wants to defund the police. that is obviously not the case, but it is an argument the republicans have been making. it sounds like it is sticking with that caller just now. host: our next caller is lou from florida. caller: good morning. how are you? paul: good morning. caller: i have a comment first. that is delusional. the power of the people, i think we can agree is wielded by the president. if you can identify the word
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autocorrect for me, it would be very -- autocrat for me, it would be very helpful because i feel like that is where we are going with democrats. paul: i am not sure if he is describing the former president or the current administration, so i am not sure what he meant by that. there has been a lot of talk, and there will continue to be some about the powers of the federal government and whether they are too strong and whether this country is moving towards autocracy. host: next step we have dee in spokane, washington on the republican mine. caller: hello -- the republican line. caller: i was thinking about this when we left afghanistan. that was a good move, that they
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should have gone directly to our own border. we can protect ukraine and everyplace else, but our own border is unprotected. the is just -- the situation is just getting worse. host: that caller just mentioned the pullout from afghanistan. tomorrow marks 1 year since the fall of kabul to the taliban. susan, can you talk a little bit about that and how that has been one of the things the news has criticized president biden's administration? susan: typically, a president will be punished more for his or her performance on domestic issues. in this particular case, it is almost to the day that president
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biden's numbers began to plummet, after that disastrous pullout from afghanistan. it is not that people wanted to stay there. we have been there 20 years. of course, the pullout itself was just chaotic. i think he is still recovering from that, a little bit. things that happened since -- that is when things started to go downhill for him. i am not saying he is not in control, but it contributes to that impression. paul: this president, president biden head favorable approval ratings for the first -- had favorable approval ratings for
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the first six months he was in the white house. that was the start of a steep decline. we are starting to see has numbers rebound a little bit, but if you look at the averages, he will have 30% approval, and disapproval in the 50's. that is lower than president trump. the presidential approval rating is such a key parameter. host: next up, we have take in -- tay in houston, texas. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to address the gentleman about trump. trump, and i could be wrong
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about it -- trump is only president in modern history who left the economy better than wearing -- when he entered. he left office with far less jobs than when he came in. obama had 3 potential pandemics. he do not fire scientists. trump spent his whole time during this pandemic fighting science. the economy fell. whose fault is that? i see all of these people, -- trump has done nothing for this country other than make us sick and broke.
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his supporters -- nobody is scared of civil war. they lost in 1865, they lost in 2020, and they lost on january 6. i support liz cheney 110%. host: there is a lot of rhetoric we have heard this week about civil war and whether attacks on trump amount to dividing the country. how do you think that will impact elections this year? paul: there is a lot to unpack -- susan: there is a lot to impact. i'm conscious of the apocalyptic language we are hearing out there.
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in eastern europe -- i do not throw those words around. i want us to be careful about that. i think that the search -- we do not even know if it was an investigation -- the search of his home, i do not know what impact it will have. republicans rallied around him very weekly. if it turns -- very quickly. if it turns out we find he had documents that could endanger the united states, that could be a problem. we do not know whether the justice department -- they may have just wanted the documents back. they cited a possible violation
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of the espionage act, but that does not mean they think he is a spy. it just means they reserve the possibility that someone violated an aspect of the espionage act. theft could rile up the base -- that could rile up the base, for it could get others to come out and say " this is terrifying that a former president has sensitive documents." i want to be careful about enabling elements of the country , because i think it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. host: i want to ask you something the caller mentioned about pandemic response. is that something that could be a weakness for president trump,
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if he decides to run in 2024, or is that something drummed up by his opponents? paul: his response to the pandemic was the reason he lost the 2020 presidential election. that is crystal clear. the issue of the pandemic has receded. it was still a major issue in 2021. we are more than halfway through 2022. it is not the top issue on the minds of americans anymore. it is inflation. if he runs again in 2024, and it sure looks like he is serious about that,, will it be used against him? of course it will. it will not be an issue at the top of the minds of most americans. the economy was flattened by the
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pandemic, the worst pandemic this globe has seen in a century, and now it is rebounding. as the biden administration tries to tout on a daily basis -- wages are soaring. all of that is getting trumped by inflation that is the worst in 40 years. desk prices are receding. -- gas prices are receding. if those continue to go down, and inflation overall starts to slowly reseed, it will be less of -- reced it will be less of an issuee -- slowly recede, it will be less of an issue. host: our next caller is on the democratic line. caller: i have a question about
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the midterms, and i want both of your guests to answer this question. how serious of a problem is gerrymandering? i think that the politicians now are picking the voters, and the voters are not picking them. i want both of your guests to answer that question. host: susan, do you want to go first? susan: that is a factor in a lot of states. there have been a number of races that have been decided by very few votes. i hope people are not discouraged. it is also one of the reasons
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there is a limited number girl party can pick up in any given cycle, because there are fewer genuinely competitive districts than there used to be. things change. we saw the speaker of the house, however many years ago -- a district do you do not think can flip, can certainly flip. host: paul, anything you want to add? paul: when i started covering politics, there were maybe 60 congressional house seats in play every election. now we are down to maybe 20, 25, and why? because of redistricting,. gerrymandering both parties are at fault here -- because of
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redistricting, gerrymandering. both parties are at fault here. s nonpartisan commission -- nonpartisan commissions are the ones who write the new districts, who draw the new districts every 10 >> c-span's "washington journal," every day we take your calls live on the air, on the news of the day, and we discuss policy issues that impact you. coming up monday morning, we talk about president biden's economic policies with the distinguished senior fellow at george mason university. anna constitutional law professor on the fbi search of former president trump's for the home and the legal and constitutional questions surrounding it. watch live at 7:00 eastern
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