ukraine as the country marks the six-month anniversary of russia 's invasion and cook political reports senate and governors ever -- editor jessica taylor preview ski races to watch. washington journal starts now. journal" starts now. ♪ host: good morning. it is wednesday, august 24. today marks six months since russia invaded ukraine. it is also ukraine's independence day. president biden will mark the occasion with announcement of an additional $3 billion in weapons for ukraine. this morning, we spend the first hour getting your thoughts on the conflict. dial in this morning if you live in the eastern or central part of the country, (202)-748-8000.

mountain and pacific, (202)-748-8001. if you are active or former military, (202)-748-8002. you can also join the conversation by texting. include your first name, city and state at (202)-748-8003. or post your thoughts on facebook.com/c-span and you can send a tweet with the handle @c spanwj. ukraine's president this morning in ukraine giving remarks about independence day. this is from "the telegraph." the president saying, we will fight until the end, he vowed in his independence day address. the country would not be making any concessions or compromise to moscow. we don't care what army you

have, we only care about our land. we will fight for it until the end. he said the country was reborn when russia invaded february 24 and would recapture crimea and occupied areas in the east. at 4:00 in the morning it was reborn. a nation that did not scream or take fright, one that did not fully, did not give up -- flee and did not give up. what is the end of the war? we used to say peace and now we say victory. your reaction to what he had to say and the u.s. support for ukraine as they continue to fight russia in ukraine. we want to get your thoughts this morning. take a look at recent polling. americans continue to support

ukraine six months after the invasion. 58% say they are following the conflict somewhat or very closely. 53% say it is worthwhile to pay more for fuel and gas due to the russian sanctions. 65% said the u.s. should take in refugees. that is down nine points since march. 51% support supplying weapons to the ukrainian military. the president going to announce today an additional $3 billion in aid for ukraine. we want to get your thoughts on that and your reaction to this poll. do you agree or disagree with those numbers? this from the institute for the

world economy. you can see where the united states' assistance adds up to in billions compared to the eu, the u.k., germany, canada, poland, france, etc. this is the government support to ukraine by gdp with estonia, compared to gdp, leading. latvia and poland giving great support, not only in economic aid, but refugee aid. this is committed versus delivered weapons in the united states is leading followed by poland, the u.k., canada, germany, denmark, etc.

the six month anniversary of this conflict. what are your thoughts on this day? mark in northwood, new hampshire. caller: good morning. i think we have spent an enormous amount of money protecting other borders instead of our own. i am very disappointed in the amount of money we keep sending to ukraine when there is so much that needs to be done here in this country. teacher shortages, fuel shortages, expenses, to me, it is unconscionable that we spend this money overseas when it is needed here. thank you. host: john in california. good morning. caller: we should be reminded that this war did not start this year. it started eight years ago. america was never really filled

in on how american special forces -- they have been over there waging war against russia. i guess there has to be some looking into the truth about how we got into this mess. i think, basically, america fracked itself to death and the only way to save america is to get russia's gas. that is with the war is about. host: cnbc reporting ukraine is calling for more weapons and sanctions on russia. nearly 18 million people need aid. a warning over the threat of russian strikes on this anniversary.

urging remaining americans in ukraine to leave the country, bracing for fresh russian attacks. the president warned may be particularly nasty. the u.n. sounding the alarm over the ukrainian nuclear power plant russia has control over. the amount of grain leaving in exports has increased. from the defense minister calling for additional weapons and sanctions on russia as the war approaches at the six-month mark. it coincides with ukraine's independence day. the russia's war in ukraine has left 18 million people in serious need of humanitarian aid. the u.n. also warned the crisis will affect more people as winter approaches. they estimate the humanitarian organizations have scaled up

operations in order to reach 11.7 million people since the war began six months ago. today marks six months. we are getting your thoughts. carl in portland, oregon. good morning. former military? caller: yes. host: what are your thoughts on this? caller: it is another complicated problem that the united states has gotten itself involved in. it seems it is all for humanitarian reasons. we are in support of people helping people not die. the only problem is we have a constant threat of going to war. host: with russia? caller: yeah.

i mean, i don't know if finland is in nato now, but let's say russia invades a nato country. let's say, poland. we are in war. in a weird way, why push it? host: how is the united states pushing it? caller: from what i am trying to say is we are constantly threatening russia. host: by supporting ukraine with weapons? caller: excuse the? host: by supporting ukraine with weapons? caller: i would say so. that is my opinion. the deal is if russia puts one man in poland, we are in. we are in up to our necks. i think we have military people

in poland ready to strike. i would say this is a lot more important than just sitting on the sidelines like people act like. we are up to our necks already. host: kylie in ellicott city, maryland. caller: good morning. it worries me that folks are so open to the idea of putin and russia invading neighboring countries and taking them over and we should sit back and do nothing. we have an issue on our border. we have inflation for sure. but we cannot let russia and china take over neighboring countries. if we let putin do what he does, china will take over taiwan and where does this end? this is america. it is part of, i think, our strategic plan to make sure we

do not put our troops in there but we support them with weapons. we have to be strong in these areas or we are going to have major problems down the road. russia is isolated. what they did with the hope that we would be isolationist -- and i hear on the right side the weirdest narrative about us doing something to russia, defending putin. he is a dictator and he tried to do things we stand up to. the rest of the world -- we are not alone -- the rest of the world is standing up to them. their economy is imploding. they are so isolated. this is going to be super important to stop china from these ideas, because if we isolate china globally, their economy will do the same thing.

i wish americans would be a little more focused on these threats of the future by standing strong now so we don't have major problems in the next couple of decades. host: look at this map for those of you that can see the screen. it is a map of ukraine. the area in red is the assessed russian advance. and the areas with black outline are russian controlled before february 24. this is what they controlled before and the red outline is where they advanced into ukraine. so, just to give you an idea of what the conflict looks like six months later. i want to follow up on that caller and the economy. this is reporting by the washington post. western sanctions are wounding,

but not yet crushing, russia's economy. while most economists agree russia is suffering real damage that will mount overtime, the economy, at least on the surface, does not appear to be collapsing. the initial nosedive quickly reversed after the state limited transactions and russian imports plummeted. an economic picture hardly described as healthy but one that calmed public fears of crisis. russia continues journey billions of dollars -- earn billions of dollars from oil exports. john and virginia. good morning. caller: i am glad you mentioned what you just mentioned. they are still doing great. they are making billions.

zelenskyy is able to give his speech in a secure location and when you look at the infrastructure of ukraine and the damage done in the thousands of lives lost, children, women, it is devastating. this should have never happened. i was shocked and i pretty much watched the news, i did not realize it has been six months. that goes to the media in terms of them not focusing on it to that level as they do other things. but six months this is been going on. in the end, you think we are spending money now? watch when it is over. zelenskyy is going to be like, hey, they are going to help us rebuild ukraine. which we are, because we are in it with them. it should never have happened.

this could have been prevented and i wish that we had stronger leadership. that is why i have got to say. i appreciate c-span. host: we are going to keep taking calls this morning to get your thoughts on the ukraine-russia conflict six months after it began. yesterday at the united nations in new york, russia called a un security council meeting over the nuclear plant in ukraine. this is the headline out of ukraine, a nuclear plant held hostage. russia and ukraine claiming the other side is the one that has been launching strikes at the nuclear power plant. listen to russia's ambassador responding about the safety concerns of this nuclear plant. [video clip] >> russia is not allocating

heavy weaponry and using it for military purpose. they stand by to provide high-resolution photos which shows the weaponry is not located at the station. mr. president, recently, ukraine had the visit of the u.s. secretary-general and we had hopes on his trip. we expected the u.n. demand they stop shelling the station. but we did not hear from the secretary words of condemnation other than appeals to military activity should avoid it. i would like to ask whether the secretary managed to obtain from zelenskyy promised to stop shelling the station.

the shelling of the station, by ukraine, should continue. from day one we have supported efforts to organize a mission and we did everything we could to make sure the expert visit took place in june. host: from yesterday's you and security council --u.n. security council meeting. here's with the ukrainian ambassador had to say. [video clip] >> to listen to fictitious soundbites. the terrorist state does not stop playing around with the international community. it has the audacity to convene the u.n. security council

meeting to discuss its own provocations, its own terror. let me reiterate the current situation and make it clear we will ultimately remove the nuclear threats stemming from the legal russian presence at the power plant. and the return of the station to the legitimate control by ukraine. host: the new york times with the headline, very little was resolved at that meeting yesterday. shelling and gunfire have repeatedly hit the nuclear power plant which has six reactors. spent fuel storage and other spots raising fears of disastrous radiation relief, especially if the coolant systems were damaged.

the u.n. security council meeting will gather again. they will get a briefing on the war six months later. we will have coverage right here on c-span, 10:00 a.m. eastern, and on our video app. it is called c-span now or you can watch on demand on the website, c-span.org. we are going to get back to your calls on marking six months of this conflict. joining us on the phone is matt lee, diplomatic writer for the associated press. he wrote the story yesterday about the u.s. sending an additional $3 billion in aid to ukraine. matthew, what is this additional aid? can you give us specifics about what it will include? guest: good morning. this is a package, it is going

to be the largest military aid package the u.s. has sent to ukraine since the war began. they have already sent 19 separate sets of assistance totaling about $10.6 billion. but this roughly $3 billion is unlike those earlier ones. this will be focused more on medium and longer-term defensive needs ukraine has, and will continue to have, as the work continues. unlike the previous packages sent under pda, or presidential drawdown authority which is weapons and ammunition that come from existing pentagon stocks, a lot of this new package is going

to be items that still need to be produced. so, some of the stuff is going to be a year maybe two down the line before it can be completed and sent. it will include some new drone systems, including the unusually named vampire system, which is an anti-drone, drone. a drone system used to take down other drones. as well as some new kinds of equipment they have not sent before. but this is a substantial aid package and the administration is time get not just to the six month anniversary but also to ukrainian independence day, which is today. host: you said some of this weaponry is one year out from being issued to ukraine.

what does that tell you about the u.s.'s analysis of the conflict? guest: there is a sense among quite a few american officials that this is going to drag out, you know, over months if not years. even if it is reduced to a lower level conflict. but the sense was ukraine, while it is important for them to get their immediate needs met in terms of artillery and antitank missiles, there is also the need to prepare for the longer-term, a longer haul as the conflict continues. i think what they are trying to do is, while they are supplying

ukraine -- not just the u.s. but other allied countries as well -- supply ukraine with what they need in the immediate term, there is also the feeling they are going to have to shift toward the long haul, the medium and further out needs ukraine will have if the russians processed. host: matthew lee, the state department morning americans to leave ukraine as they approach today's independence day of the country. how many americans did the state department say are in the country? guest: no, because they do not know. american citizens are not required to register with the embassy or the state department

if and when they go to ukraine. at any time, there are probably several hundred at least if not several thousand. those include aid workers, those that have gone over to join or try to join the fight against russia. they are journalists, diplomats, there are potentially businessman. fast food chains have said they are going to reopen the franchises in ukraine. it is very difficult for the state department and the u.s. government in general to tell how many there are there in ukraine at any given time. let's remember the u.s. has been warning consistently since earlier this year if not late last year for americans to

leave. but because of the convergence of these events, the six month anniversary of independence day and the car bombing outside moscow that the russians have blamed on ukraine, there is a sense that the russians may step up their attacks, particularly on civilian infrastructure and government facilities. that is what counts for this new alert. host: matthew lee, a veteran reporter of the state department. c-span viewers will know he normally gets the first question at the state department briefing. if there is a briefing today, what is your question? guest: [laughter] if there is a briefing today, it may not be about ukraine.

the state department's role and what is going to happen today is limited. this arms shipment is going to be coming under the ukraine security assistance initiative which is part of the $40 billion package congress passed and president biden signed earlier this year. it is coming from the pentagon. this is military money. the state department will certainly put something out. it will be more, i understand, around congratulating ukraine on its independence day and stepping up the criticism of russia. we have another big, international story going on. if there is a briefing, i would lead the briefing with the iran nuclear negotiations. that said, this package for

ukraine is significant. it is a big deal and it is extremely important. host: matthew lee, diplomatic writer with the associated press. you can follow him @ap diplowriter. thank you. guest: thank you very much. host: back to your thoughts this morning on ukraine's independence day and the six month, today, ukraine has been fighting russia. jason in san diego, what do you think? caller: good morning, c-span. i want to mention one of the last callers said that should have never happened. you have to understand, with all of the stuff that has been happening here in the last administration, never has this happened that putin and his

henchmen came to the u.s. and met with trump. trump did not have anybody in there from his administration. 2.5 hours behind closed doors he was talking to putin and his henchmen. what do you think happened? did he tell his people, no, you are not invited? what did they talk about? i believe he gave putin the ok to do it because he was going to get reelected. that is how it went down. we will never know what they talked about. host: janice in louisiana, what do you think? caller: hello. this is janice. we should not send money and more materials to ukraine. we then are at war with russia. have we forgotten russia was an ally in world war ii?

the ukraine situation is a delayed civil war. ukraine should've helped greater russia after the devastation caused by the nazis. destroying cities and killing millions of russians. they are all russian and speak russian. russia let ukraine withdraw years ago. sort of like the texas in the usa decided to leave the union. can you imagine? zelenskyy managed to aggravate putin. russia wants to be more social, like europe and england. host: rob in new york city. let's hear your thoughts this morning. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. if i remember correctly, we disarmed ukraine of their nuclear weapons.

had that not happened i think we would have a very different, less aggressive putin and russia. there would be a deterrent. we make these -- i don't know if the word is geopolitical -- but we make these worldwide mistakes . we toppled, mistakenly, saddam hussein. we strengthened iran and we ruined iraq. it almost seems like two and two is four. i am not trying to minimize it, but for sure there was medication between our former president and putin when they only had translators present and no one else could record what

was being discussed. yes, i actually do think, in anticipation of a second term by our former president, that they were figuring a time period when putin could invade and do this horrible thing. we should be supporting ukraine. i agree 1000% we should be sending weapons. if you don't stop them in ukraine, what is next? we are going to have to fight them in poland? i agree 1000%. host: i have got to get some other voices in. don in missouri, it is your turn. caller: i am opposed to this biden's war and hunter biden's war. he was over there exchanging

gifts. president trump is right. ukrainians would never have died if trump had been in there. he would have signed some kind of peace treaty and this never would have been. now we are sending more of our treasury and the inflation going higher and higher because biden had to have -- the democrats had to have another war. they cannot exist without war. host: we will go to new york and quanda? is that your name? caller: yes, greta. host: go ahead with your thoughts. caller: i will be as quick as possible. love to all of the afghan victims who are murdered and slaughtered and wounded. president trump, you are

fabulous. all of these people saying it is trump's fault, they are lying and ridiculous. this is joe biden. he did all of this. the evidence is there. he is a weak president. he has let millions of illegal aliens into our country. host: tie this back to ukraine. caller: the ukrainians are fabulous and i love them. however, we should not be supporting them at the level we are. somebody needs to kill putin and get him off the stage. we cannot continue to support ukraine. we don't know how zelenskyy is, if he is corrupt or not. one phone call got president trump booted for nothing. and there were people on the call with him. i love the ukrainian people and

i don't want them to go through this, but something's not right. take care. host: michael in west virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. i got something to say. people probably will not believe it. go back and listen to speeches before the war started. biden told russia to take the eastern part of ukraine. that was on the news before the war started. if you do not believe it, listen to his speeches. host: on the six month marketing

of the conflict in ukraine and ukraine's independence day, celebrating 31 years of independence. president biden will announce another $3 billion in assistance. as we heard from matthew lee, this is on top of $10.6 billion in military weaponry already. it is the 20th drawdown by the president in supplying ukraine with weapons. with that information, we want to know what you think about u.s. support for ukraine and the conflict. lee in winchester, illinois. you are former military? caller: yes, i am from the navy. what i noticed in the beginning is a complete lack of focus of the news media saying the russian killed so many today.

putin's name needs to be on all of that. i am going to introduce snake logic. that means sanctions, sending weapons are nothing but bites on the tail of the snake. the only way to kill a snake is to cut its head off. it seems like there is a complete blackout in the media of discussing the reward on putin's life. host: i am going to leave it at that. in other news, there were primaries held yesterday in a few states. beginning with new york, here is the new york times. jerry nadler routes carolyn maloney in the democratic primary. upstate voters send abortion message, is the headline.

here is congressman jerry nadler, chair of the judiciary committee in the house, after he was projected the winner. [video clip] >> i know when confronted with fights as massive as those that lie before us it can feel impossible to do anything but surrender. but here's the thing. i am a new yorker. [cheers] just like ted weiss and ruth messenger. we new yorkers do not know how to surrender. [cheering] new yorkers stand up and fight. when it comes to unpacking the supreme court, i am going to stand up and fight. [cheers] we are going to end the scourge of gun violence in america because we are going to stand up and fight. we're going to restore abortion access across our nation. [cheering]

i am going to stand up and fight to protect and expand our other fundamental rights. all of you in this room and many others stood up over the past few months and fought for me. all i can offer in return is my solemn promise to head back to washington and do the same for you. host: congressman nadler declared the winner for the democratic primary in new york last night. carolyn maloney, both longtime incumbents, faced off in that primary battle after their district was redrawn to put them in the same one. carolyn maloney is the chair of the house oversight committee. here she is in her concession speech. we will show you that in a minute. back to our calls on the six

month ongoing conflict in ukraine and the fight against russia. mark in fairfax, good morning. caller: good morning. we have to realize russia, china, and much of the world, much of africa, even india, is moving toward these regimes as democracy is in threat. even the u.s. is in this crisis. so, we will be getting more and more extreme candidates and democracy is in trouble around the world and the u.s. host: lloyd in west virginia, good morning. caller: good morning. i just want to say ukraine and

russia have been at each other for a long time. ukraine knew what russia might do, so why did they not build up their own military and meet them at the border? every time democrats are in we get involved in wars. either we are sending troops in or we involved in other ways. that is the way of the democrats and this is a lot of money for things that are unnecessary. host: melissa in chicago, what do you feel about it? melissa in chicago? caller: yes, thank you for taking my call. i think this is ridiculous.

ukraine is a very corrupt country and it belongs to russia. dragging us into this -- i think china is just laughing. the u.s. dollar will be worth $.30 the next couple of years and they are going to be knocking for their money. they are going to take over. the dollar is no longer going to be the universal commerce anymore. it is not going to be the dollar. that is all i have to say. i think biden is the worst, the very worst, we have had. he is going to take this country down. host: vanessa in princeton junction, new jersey. caller: i want to remind all of you that this so-called war,

american dreams came true. biden said he wanted ignorant and stupid men. thinking that russia can succumb to their own dreams, that is not going to happen. ukraine is the most corrupted country. it is part of russian history. america will continue giving money but the american people should ask themselves, does that money really go to ukraine? host: vanessa and the other caller, i encourage you to look at the tweet sent out by the ukrainian charity foundation. the organization put together a short video on the history, the independence history, of ukraine. you can find it if you go to

president zelensky's twitter account and you can find the history. it is about a minute long. gloria in linden, tennessee. caller: good morning. i have been watching your show for over a year now. you let me know how many people in this country whose minds are truly disturbed. i believe that we should support any country that wants to have democracy. i don't feel any country should be able to just come in and take over another country that has been established since the end of world war ii. come on, people. wake up, read your bible. there is going to be hate everywhere but we have to do the best good we can while we can. host: we told you all about the

new york primary and the election battle. going to florida now here is the miami herald. florida democrats shows charlie crist, the former governor of the state who was a republican, he switched parties and won his seat in the house. they chose him to challenge and beat desantis. the question posed is, can he? there is also the story from the local news down in florida in the tampa bay area. val demings wins the senate primary to challenge marco rubio in november. two races to watch in florida. max in texas, what do you think about military support the u.s. is sending to ukraine since you are former military? caller: i think it is well

justified. people have to remember this is not just about ukraine, is about the international order. it is about not entering an unconstrained war with russia or china. there are a lot of balls in play here. host: suzanne, what do you think? caller: what do i think? even before i go on? host: you are on television. caller: i do not see myself. host: you are not going to see yourself. caller: i think president biden is wondrous. host: suzanne, you're going to have to mute the tv. caller: let me turn it off. i think president biden is a wondrous man and everything he

has done is overwhelming. and i have very low money. however, i will always think everything he has done is incredible. although the money has gone down, yes, it costs more for gas, food, big deal. he is helping people and he has done everything anybody should do. host: troy in fredericksburg, virginia. what are your thoughts on the russia-ukraine conflict? caller: good morning. i believe we should support the. i wish europe, since they are neighbors, would step in more.

republicans calling in about democrats always starting wars but it seems to me -- i am 60 years old -- and the first bush took us to war in iraq. that spread to afghanistan. and that his son comes into office and takes us to war the same way his father did. i would like to point out i don't think mr. trump would have pulled out anybody. he would've pulled the troops from afghanistan and nobody else. he shut down the border to the middle east while he was president. does anybody think he would bring those people here? that is my comment but i think we ought to support the troops. if we do not stop putin, i believe you will try to create the soviet union again. host: more from the u.n.

security council where russia called the meeting to talk about the nuclear power plant that, according to headlines, is being held by russian military. here is the u.n. chief for political and peace building affairs. [video clip] >> agreement is urgently needed to reestablish the civilian infrastructure and secure the area. we must be clear that any potential damage to the plant or any other nuclear facilities in ukraine leading to a possible nuclear incident would have catastrophic consequences, not only for the immediate vicinity, but beyond. any damage leading to the plant being cut off the grid would have catastrophic humanitarian applications, particularly with winter approaching. as the secretary-general has

made clear, the electricity produced at this plant belongs to ukraine. at this moment, it is imperative we receive the express commitment of the parties to stop any military activities around the plant and enable continued safe and secure operations. any potential damage is suicidal. host: from yesterday's un security council meeting. they will meet again today with the u.n. secretary-general giving a briefing to the member states at 10:00 a.m. eastern. you can watch it right here on c-span, on c-span.org or with the free video mobile app, c-span now. kathleen in cedar falls, iowa. what do you think about the conflict? caller: i think people need to remember that congress voted

money for ukraine to help them defend themselves. and trump refused to send that money. they would have been prepared had trump followed through with his duties. i also feel -- i don't feel, i know russia would be invading other countries if he got hold of ukraine. i have no objection to our sending money to them to defend themselves. host: rich in wisconsin, what do you think? caller: good morning. first of all, president trump sent javelins, antitank weapons instead of blankets and mre's as the obamas did. a rough estimate, 30% of the

weapons we are sending are making it to the fighters. that means 70% is going into the abuse of one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. as far as any video put out, i'm sorry, have we seen the hunter biden videos? the big guy gets 10% when joe biden was strong-arming ukraine to stop an investigation into burisma and the money laundering? honestly, our citizens need to start paying attention. war is bipartisan. we will send as much as we can wherever we can. it seems to be the politicians are making out really well during this and telling us we are doing real good. any of the biological plants in ukraine, what about the ones in taiwan?

it is amazing the stuff going on right now and everybody is paying attention to whatever they want. host: the washington post did an analysis of ukraine's efforts to fight russia. this is from five ways ukraine fought and saved its capitol from russian invaders. number one, in the run-up to the war, ukraine political officials downplayed a full-scale invasion. but the ukrainian military was making critical preparations. number two, russia directly and through an intermediary tried to get the ukrainian government to capitulate in the initial hours of the war. three, ukrainian president was not opposed to resigning or leaving kyiv it would end the war. four, the head of the ukrainian presidential administration used

gruesome photographs to persuade partners to help. five, for a few days and the bill of march ukrainian military almost completely ran out of ammunition. that from the washington post if you are interested. david in katy, texas. caller: good morning. first of all, two callers back mentioned bush junior and bush senior. war is bipartisan, like one caller said. the one thing in common with iraq, afghanistan and our invasions, and we look at assad and syria in the way putin has been slandered, all of these things and this involvement we

have in these different countries have one common thread -- moralism. america has injected itself into these countries. i don't think the democrats and republicans would be as hawkish if we had our own troops over there. they would not be saying they support the war. we were lying when it came to wmd's in iraq. we were ready to pull out. i think we have to be careful about the so-called country called ukraine. it is recently created and one of the reasons they are flailing is because of their corruption and because they have never been a united people. half of it was owned by russia, half by poland over hundreds of years. we need to get our history right and look at things more pragmatically and not moralistic like we have been. host: bernie in louisville,

kentucky. caller: i just hope six months from now we are not having the same conversation about this russian invasion. it looks like it will not end anytime soon. i was always curious about putin. this may be simpleminded but i wonder what his mother thinks about what he is doing? i wonder if he owns a dog? terrorizing children and abusing women in all of these pets wondering where their owners are. there are so many horrible things going on but i hope we do not have the same conversation in six months. thank you, greta. host: william in pennsylvania, good morning. caller: ukraine is a corrupt country. all of the money and all of the weapons going over there, the weapons are being sold on the internet. host: how do you know that? caller: you can go on the

website and you can buy these weapons right now on the internet. host: ok. caller: as soon as winter hits this war will be over and the ukrainians are going to be suffering. instead of making a deal while you guys can, you are going to put the ukrainians through the same thing you put the afghanistan people through. they are getting all the weapons, just like ukraine has. it is going to be over during wintertime. the war is over already. host: tom in ohio. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. what do you expect whenever you have crooks? they talk about how much money

they have to spend. i think russia will dominate the world. host: tom with those thoughts. in case you missed it, americans continue to support ukraine six months after the russian invasion. according to the latest if so poll -- ipso poll, 58% are following the conflict somewhat or very closely. 53%, down 10 points since march, say it is worthwhile to pay more for fuel and gas due to russian sanctions. 65% of those surveyed said the u.s. should take in ukrainian refugees. that is down nine points since march. 51%, down 20 points since march, support the u.s. providing weapons to the ukrainian military. president biden today is going to announce another 3

billion-dollar military aid package. darrell in eastpointe, michigan. caller: good morning. helping the people when for their - -win their cause is great. we learned that the hard way in afghanistan. what we need to do, and if we continue to supply the necessary weapons to the ukrainians, they will eventually win the war. the will is there to win it. we have to stop russia. putin will have his moment. it will either be a 1945 moment

or a walk away. those things will happen and it will be a better world for it. host: last thoughts on this conversation this morning. we are going to take a break. when we come back, we are going to pick up with the russian expert william pomeranz from the wilson center. he will be with us to take your questions and comments about strategy. later, jessica taylor from the cook political report will look at key senator and governors races to watch in the midterm election. stay with us. ♪ >> ♪ >> c-span has unfiltered

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>> "washington journal" continues. host: william pomeranz as our guest this morning. you are with us -- you were with the six months ago. where do things stand on the battlefield? guest: what is interesting is after six months, neither side has the manpower or the ability to witness for. we are now faced with a war that will have to wait and see who eventually gains the upper hand and it is not clear as to who or when that will happen. host: who has momentum? guest: ukraine because they are defending their country and they have an idea and a cause they are fighting for.

they have just been thrown into the battlefield. they have not been briefed as to why they are there. they have suffered significant casualties and it is unclear whether they have the ability to win this war or to take and hold territory. host: how do you win or lose a war of attrition? guest: you have to make sure you are there. we have had wars of attrition in history, world war i, the civil war, and it just requires the political will to stay the course. you don't know when you will get the breaker when the other side will collapse or fall apart. and it is uncertain. that is her we are right now in this work. host: where is russia formable?

guest: russia is vulnerable because it doesn't have the troops and the will and why they're trying to take ukraine. putin made the claim ukraine is filled with sees. this is not true. russians. now why they are fighting. some have a lot of understanding of russia as an imperial power. that ukraine has always belonged to russia and it should be part of the russian federation but that has not been articulated very well by president putin and in light of the consequences it is uncertain how long the russian people will stay the course. they might stay for a long time. putin has all sorts of ways to

make sure that happens. there has been a dramatic increase in crimes that will allow for imprisonment if you declare that you are against the war. these are things putin has used to make sure they stay the cause but there is no opposition or protest. host: what about soldiers returning from the battlefield? soldiers are seeing how while ukrainians were living at her surprised one of the reports was a woman they kidnap they were surprised. guest: i don't think this debtor -- standard of living is significantly better. both countries have suffered and tried to create a market economy. i don't know what apartments or places are living but if they

indeed felt that the ukrainians are better placed and have a better standard of living, that is similar to the fact that the situation during the soviet union. the soviet union collapsed. they realized despite 70 plus years of socialism, they were not living as well as people in the united states. host: border vulnerabilities in a war of attrition? guest: ukraine's vulnerabilities is also that it may not have an of people. they have imposed a draft. men cannot leave ukraine. the ability to put people in the field who have the artillery and you talked about that in the previous segment about the united states sending more weapons to ukraine. that is a vulnerability as well.

there are a host of other vulnerabilities. one is the economy and they can't export grade. --grain. and the other is russia is playing with fire with their nuclear power stations. you only need one stream missile as it were and not only ukraine but depending on where the wind is blowing, everybody else's in a whole lot of trouble because of this war. host: the u.n. diplomats called for demilitarization of this nuclear power plant. what do you think is going to happen next? guest: hope that the russians have said ukrainians are hiring

but so far it is suggested the russians are the ones making the attack on the nuclear power plants. i should add that when the russians took over chernobyl, they begin digging ditches and making defensive movements around chernobyl or no one has been able to live or even form or whatever --farm or whatever. one will have to see how russia deals with that crisis. a lot of russian soldiers were exposed to radiation during the occupation of chernobyl. host: tell us about the dynamic of the car bomb killing the daughter of a putin alloy. what is the fallout of that?

guest: they blame ukraine. they don't have convincing evidence of that at all. i think russia will try to use this for killing, to increase their violence and attacks on ukraine. whether they can succeed, as i said if they have the manpower to do that is questionable. going after the daughter of the main philosophical opponent and the war in ukraine. it was a very significant act and we distant what the fallout will be. host: we heard in our first hour from callers about a couple things they claim russia has the rights to ukraine because of history. can you talk about that a little bit?

and the second, ukraine. guest: russia does not have the rights to ukraine. russia and the russian empire throughout its hundred year history major to repress ukraine and ukrainian language for someone putin also has 18th-century maps and said there is no ukraine there there a reason. that is because the russian empire made sure that the ukrainian language was suppressed. ukrainian identity really only emerged in the beginning, at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century. the number of the united nations, and has been a member of the united nations. russia recognized its borders after the collapse of the soviet union. it has been a nation for the

past 30 plus years. the fact that russia still believes it has imperial rights to ukraine suggests that russia's imperial way of thinking has not disappeared even after the collapse of the soviet union. host: the second, that we heard is that ukraine is corrupt and the wheat buns and the money that countries are giving to ukraine is not worth it because of history of corruption. guest: there has been significant corruption throughout the ukraine independence. it has been a problem. there have been various attempts to fix or deal with corruption. it has been very difficult to get rid of even one president biden came into office, when they were discussing the potential entry of ukraine into

nato biden said they couldn't consider it until ukraine ended its corruption which essentially said that biden wasn't going to support ukraine's entry into nato. so if a problem -- there are anticorruption strategies that have worked in ukraine. ukraine suffers from a variety of defects, most notably or one of them is that there was a large russian population in ukraine. several of the ugly clerks -- ogligarchs. no one has a model as to how ukraine goes from this reunion to an independent democratic

nation. no one suspected it would become -- that it would do that rapidly. ukraine has suffered for a variety of reasons from corruption and that has delayed economic development as well. host: let's hear from viewers this morning. caller: good morning. my question is, do the russian people now the fatality rate? are they receiving the bodies of their sons, i presume most of the soldiers are sons. and do they know how bad it is? host: let me just jump in because according to ukraine, moscow casualties are close to

45,400 while the ukraine's army chief provide the deaths for that country and it is nearly 9000. guest: i don't know exactly if we can trust all the statistics. the other statistics recently put forth is that the russians have forward -- suffered close to 70,000 casualties which will be a tremendous blow for the russian military. russia has not released its casualty rates. basically, there have been various sorts of rumors that they had mobile crematorium's to be able to dispose of the bodies during the battle. it will be very interesting when

russian mothers, particularly mothers, realize this is killing their sons. it was not a ball in the late 1990's that russian mothers, the soldiers'mothers it was a very strong opposition force in the russian federation to this war and were known to go to the front and get their kids and send them home. that can fix some of the problems of the adults. i think that when russians learned about the rate of casualties not just russians but also ukrainians, there will be political conflict. host: brian in massachusetts, republican. brian, good morning. caller: hollow, thank you c-span. you do a great show.

couple things. aside from ukraine, if you speak to ukrainians and russians --in russian they understand you. not one person in the united states should want to have their son or spend money, blood money for this war between the two of them. we don't need this. anyway, i would like to hear what mr. pmeranz has to say.

guest: i think the major question is ukrainian and russian the same language? they are. having been in ukraine i don't understand all of ukrainian but i to understand question. the idea that somehow, you know, that these two nations are joined has been put forward by putin. that is one of his arguments for the war. in fact, ukraine has its on history, it's a language, it's -- its own language. that is simply not the case. in terms of not spending more

money on the war, i think the united states has played a very important role. once the war has started to make sure ukraine has the ability to defend the country and its integrity. i think we have not volunteered u.s. troops to go to ukraine. i to think that is in the cards at all. ukraine has stepped up and created the first great army --first rate army. most people doubted that. host: i, florida. caller: it is my understanding that when this war started, we now control russian assets.

why don't we use that money and set of hard-earned taxpayer money? fred biggs of running out of it but we have all of this money why are not we -- why are we not using them money from russia? guest: the money is frozen but it is russia's money so we have not decided to use that money for the defense of ukraine or for army the ukrainian people. but it was a major boat and a major surprise that the united states and the west was able to freeze hundreds of millions of dollars in western banks. that was one of the flush funds putin had. i don't think he understood that the things could present and that they would actually do that and make sure that russia doesn't have access to these funds. host: dan, waynesboro, georgia.

republican. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say putin is a problem and he has always been a problem. for the people of ukraine, if the united states doesn't help them, who in the world will help them? it's like the ukrainian people are held hostage in such a senseless war. i just hope you'll have a great day. guest: i do want to emphasize that in addition to the united states the europeans have made a significant request for aid to ukraine. indeed, one can argue that the europeans that had suffered the greater economic harm during this war were for going forward

if indeed russia stops the deliveries of gas to europe. it is europe this winter that will suffer the most. if the united states has played a major role in this war and has basically led the response to ukraine. one should also consider that the allies of the united states, especially the europeans, have played a significant role as well. host: we will go to humble, texas. thomas. caller: the main concern should be the melt out if the system goes off in the plant it will be a melt on. i was talking about the history of ukraine. the ottoman empire as far as

putin's concert everett be scared to death of somebody got that close to pulling up or killing one of his closest allies. it might be an inside job. guest: parts of ukraine are part of the ottoman empire. i think putin is very cognizant of the security. we have seen various pictures of putin discussing the events in ukraine with his advisors were putin's 30 feet away at one edge of the table and his advisors are huddled at the other end. putin i think has always been concerned about the security and i think he has been very careful not to expose himself during this crisis. host: linda in new york, republican. hi, linda. caller: my comment in question is about economic retaliation.

two points. i watched television and i put things together. one thing is putin has been buying up old lines so he can control the gold production. could he retaliate against conversations and put rubles on the gold standard? prior to all this happening, china officials got together with russian officials just as hepler and the russian officials got together before world war ii. i was worried they might be picking up something. i know china on's lot of our treasury bonds and we are in debt. could they call them and at the same time as russia goes on the gold standard and put our dollar in question which is not the cold standard or the goodwill of

the american people to park to produce goods that the world will buy. i wonder what your thoughts are on that. guest: i haven't really followed the question of putin and putting russia onto the gold standard. i think there is the possibility that russia and china will coordinate coping forward. both militarily and economically. the question for russia in that sort of collaboration is that russia is already, from an economic standpoint, the junior partner china. that russia has to depend on china even more going forward it will limit its sovereignty. the economy is a major concern

both for china and for russia there have been various discussions about how russia is spent sending were oil and gas to russia at discounted rates. no doubt if indeed this crisis actually, there is a possibility russia and china will form an even greater alliance -- not alliance for cooperation in terms of the economy. host: alex, silver springs, maryland. caller: good morning, i had a brief question and i have a follow-up after that. do you happen to know nikolai petra by any chance? guest: not of the top of my head. host: he's my dad so i like to plug him every so often.

i don't think you would agree with some of the analysis he's had as far as that goes one of the things i would like to comment on is this conflict has has really been going on since 2014 and separatists started breaking off and causing an internal conflict there. my personal argument would be if we are talking about ukrainians, and ukrainian identity and ukrainians defending themselves, part of the talk we are not having those who are the ukrainians that we are talking about? it should be argued that there were some ukrainians who were ukrainians before 2014 fighting

and/or fighting for their understanding of what the ukrainian identity is and the government came down hard against that identity because it wanted to create its independent identity separate from russia. that is part of what is being fought over by ukrainians and the russians and intervening in the conflict. in america instead of sending weapons and money it is falling down on the host: other cited that. host:i. guest: the question of ukrainian identity is a very complex one. there are ukrainians who are christian speakers. there are ukrainians who are -- there are ukrainians who are

russian speakers. basically, the two regions that russia attacked after the 2014 revolution of dignity they were primarily russian speakers. that is what the russians try to capitalize on when they entered into donbass and declared these areas and dependent. they initially did not declare them as independent states and they did not declare that as a part of the russian federation. what we are discovering going forward is that this is in fact a bore --a war.

it is a conflict where russia is trying to get territories and bring them back into the russian federation. this is the conflict or part of the conflict is going on right now in the donbass. and the ukrainians have insisted that the donbass based on that territory is a part of ukraine. this is what they are fighting for but i think going forward the issue would be is russia going to enact these territories? what will ukraine's be? from the ukrainian standpoint, it cannot suffer a loss of territory and remain a really viable nation. host: william pomeranz

as our guest. six months since the invasion of ukraine. we will go to catherine in concord, new hampshire. and dependent. hi, catherine. caller: good morning. i have a question. my friend was born in america but her parents fled to america just before world war ii. we have been friends since the 50's at any time i refer to her as ukrainian she gets so irate. she talks about how the ukrainians were so terrible to us, and i assumed that went back to her parents growing up at the beginning of the 20th century. how are they involved? i know they are on the western side and i was wondering how are

they pro-russian or pro modern ukraine when you talk about the identity of modern ukraine? guest: i have not followed the expressions during this war. but as i said they are in the western part of ukraine and the western part is really the most nationalistic part of ukraine. the low opinions have started their identities -- they have tried to assert at times that they deserve some sort of nationhood or recognition that i don't think that is in the cards right now all of ukraine is a patchwork of very different nationalities. finding a ukrainian identity has been difficult over the past 30 plus years and throughout history.

i think that ukraine has basically said that luthinians are part of ukraine. host: donovan, centerville, virginia. caller: good morning. in battle when you are fighting, you have a truce or peace agreement. i'm wondering. guest: no one has agreed to a truce. no one knows what the terms would be and no one has stepped up to enforce a truce. essentially, both president putin and president zelenskyy have basically said they are in it for victory. or victory means for each site is different.

but there is no real indication that some sort of cease fire is in the cards because of the stakes of the conflict. the stakes are so high for both of these leaders and out of them don't want to be perceived as backing down. host: what does victory look like for russia? guest: i think victory for russia, there are different scenarios. initially, i think putin thought it would be that -- to cave and other --kyiv and other cities and ukraine would be no more. and that it would just be part of the russian federation. that is not happen. it is unclear what victory now looks like for putin. there is a possibility he could just say we gained control of

the donbass, that is what we wanted. we have won. for the ukrainians, i think victory means russia leaving ukrainian soil. ukraine being that crimea and the donbas overturned to ukraine. that will take a long time on the battlefield for that to ensue. for russia, i think getting control of ukraine is the ultimate objective or ukraine getting control of the territory lost is the ultimate objective. there is really no kind of middle ground or truce at the present time. host: michigan, independent.

questioner, -- question or comment, jim? caller: i'm very nervous. this might seem a little anxious -- anxious -- ancient. but i knew this book called black sea. if you can make it easier for me and explain how before the time of christ being recorded the russians or north. seems to be much of the world seems to ignore that the

birthplace of ukrainians was siberia. estonians, audience, -- listonians. they aspire to be west. they seem to be ignoring that those people who came from china's wall 20,000 years ago, 10,000 years ago are different people. it ain't going to change. guest: it has been a long time since i wrote this book so i can't go into all of the details that you spotted. but, obviously, this is a part of the world where multiple nationalities have lived and

have ruled. everyone is competing at some point for this history. i can safely say the russians are not part of that initial history. it is at the end of the 18th and 19th centuries that the russians came into black sea power. it is a question as to how russia maintains its hold on the black sea. the fleet remained in crimea. now, in light of the war, it is the question of whether russia while maintain its influence over the black sea or whether

ukraine can also be a black sea power. i think that is a question that is still to be determined. host: michael from south carolina said winter seems an obvious important factor is there anything we can do to help the ukrainian people during this winter? guest: helping ukraine during the war will to be -- will be a significant part of u.s. support but any effort to make sure ukraine has sufficient energy resources to get through the winter will be very important. i think it will be very important for the europeans as well. winter is coming. that will be a very important variable in this war and

whether, you know, russia decides to put denies its energy whether ukraine is able to secure other resources to maintain this energy independence are variables going forward. host: republican from virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call. i had a couple of comments and a question. i heard some callers sound weary of the poor, almost showing support for putin. i think it is important that americans show resolve in our support for ukrainians. when we think about russia meddling in our elections at all the bounties on american's heads. the cavalier assassination of

americans are proud we need to send a message in ukraine. also, my other comment is related to the previous text. for republican support of a putin one thing i wonder is i think people view this as a full scale war on our part. white are we not doing smart home to save gas to make sure we can send lmg to support them. also related to china, china has been showing their unwavering support on an international stage. at what point should we have some of these sanctions are due more to weaken china and i guess my question at the end would be i heard a lot of people talk about putin's position in the things going against him in ukraine.

how he seems to be in power. what, in your eyes, to cause putin to have a force disturbed him. guest: that's a lot. the united states and its commitment to the war, the question of ukraine fatigue has been raised many times during the life of independent ukraine. i do think i agree with the caller that you deviate -- do need to have resolve. make sure that it retains its independence and territorial integrity. in terms of kind of making it a whole scale war, that is a very interesting question because president putin has not made this a full-scale war.

he calls this a special military operation and has not therefore called of the military or the resources of russia into this battle. so russia itself has been reluctant to quit declare this a war. there has been pressure on putin to basically do so and therefore increase the manpower and resources so that it actually has the resources to win this war. in terms of china, i think the united states has focused on the question of russia and i don't think the united states is willing to make this a global war. there are other issues that are involved in that but i think the

united states from a diplomatic point has not wanted to impose sanctions on china. that being the case, china companies have dealt with russian companies because they do want to get caught up into the sanctions regime. i don't have more anecdotal evidence that the actual physical data. but that is one of the issues involved as well. finally, what will it take to remove president putin from power? that is a million-dollar question. i would like to think that a military defeat and economic collapse which is possible during this war would put even

more pressure on putin. but as i said earlier, putin has been very careful to make sure that he has power and the ability to repress any sort of defense within the russian federation. it will be a very brave russian people who decide they can no longer tolerate the current war. when that will be, and what will be the catalyst to put the russians onto the street is unknown. host: thank you again for the conversation this morning. guest: my pleasure. host: we will take a break and on we come back we both focus on the elections 2022. he races to watch during the midterm elections. we will be right back.

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50-50 nation and i think the outcome is likely to be either close either way. amisha our viewers what you published the morning before he said that. reading teaches in pennsylvania, colorado, and utilities look like? guest: this is a much tighter race than we expected to see. back in april or so before the primaries started i would put senate control at about likely to flip to republicans but what happen through may antigen is republicans nominated some very problematic candidates and ones that did not take advantage of the primaries to take the summer to rehash their image. what we are left with, we knew the environment was back for democrats. it has been since a year ago with the disastrous withdrawal

from afghanistan but we do see democratic forces of change. the economy is getting better, gas prices are going down, they had legislative successes in congress they can point to. and i think critically is the dobbs decision that sent a portion, the question of abortion back to the states and it is now restricted in key places. this energized democratic voters. you are saying that and other elections. while republican enthusiasm was a higher metric it may be a more neutral environment and a more neutral environment cap that marked in senate races. host: let's talk about georgia. the incumbent but only served a couple of years versus -- guest: he was elected in 2020 in

a special election. he has never stopped running. he was able to maintain his political base. trump sort of picked the candidate early in this race. walker is from georgia. he has been living in texas and moved back to the state. the he has a history of domestic violence allegations. he talked about mental health challenges he has faced but also there have been questions into his businesses and veterans charities. he has made a lot of gas on the campaign trail. there is a question of candidate quality. someone like walker is worn on through georgia and being an fec football fan myself i do not discount the power of being a football star in georgia.

but we see here brian kemp has a consistently over stacey abrams. a good may be drug walker across the finish line but this is not a race that is in your camp at this point. another instance here or bidens approval rating has been so well and they are still not great to be clear. it is just up a few points. 40's or so, low 40's. but i have seen numbers of him in states that he won i have seen the states, his approval rating with artie's. but these democratic incumbents, they have been outperforming him by several digits which is not something we usually see. we usually we see that type

correlation. host: what about the democratic apparatus in georgia? stacey abrams in the get out the vote effort there? guest: that is something you cannot discount. she has empowered the get out and vote effort. but brian kemp was the one person who seemed to think wish the trump endorsement against him. cap --kemp has gotten out to areas that i think will help republicans. there are some good stories on this. there could be concerns about walker's companion. i have heard people feeling a

little better about his campaign versus these other funds. not one they can take for granted in a midterm election like this. i think it has to do a lot with candidate quality. host: if you are watching in georgia this morning, please, and we want to know how you plan to vote and why. viewers are in any of these other key states we are interested in hearing from you. georgia arizona michigan pennsylvania. if you're in the states this morning you are watching, call-in and tell us how you plant about and why. let's talk about pennsylvania and that senate race. the candidates, how they are doing, and the latest polls. guest: this is a change we made last week. this is i think the most likely

senate seat in the country to flip parties. it is an open seat with the republican incumbent not running for reelection. he is someone willing to work across the aisle he is someone very well respected by both sides of the aisle. this primary was a very brutal one. you have dr. oz to run in this race. things are really hurting him. he want from medical school at the university of pennsylvania, his wife is from there. he spent most of his time outside of pennsylvania and taping his television show in new york. he is taking on david mccormick who was a hedge fund executive.

what oz suffered from, he had millions of dollars in ads against him. this is someone who is well known. if you watch over it, you see different things. this is an image and has approval ratings were under water. this is not a recipe to went a state. there is a little bit of frustration from republicans i have talked to. i have heard that he really didn't use the summer months and after he won the primary in may to sort of rehash his and much iowa and he was spending the time in his other properties in different things. even though the democratic nominee, lieutenant governor john fetterman was off the campaign job because he suffered really a more serious stroke

that was initially but on the primaries. his campaign was using social media to campaign. you didn't see a lot of pushback. we have seen consistent polling with settlement winning -- fetterman when impairing however in the leadership fund which is a super pac. adds coming up that will hit him. all that hit fetterman? you have to be relatable as a candidate and this is a problem oz had even before the melee last week or he was going to meet crudites. normal people would call that a vegetable tray. how much that goes with voters

think it speaks to the fact that you have a connected that is to try to connect with these working-class voters in pennsylvania. oz struggling to do that. look at fetterman, he does not look like a typical politician so he is able to connect more in those rural areas. host: what about the role of former president trump? guest: there is a question about trump undressing these candidates. he has plenty of money that he has raised and i think talking with a lot of people that is what they think fundraising has been down because trump is dominated it. he spent a lot to boost these candidates. you just can't take the win of getting them through the primary.

what matters is if they win the general election are not. host: more races to get into but we will take a call from bill, in richmond virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a comment on the georgia priests. listening this morning for a few minutes and i noticed if you think about it you have canada's who have been accused of domestic violence, the number of kids and navy, --baby mommas. if this is ok with the american people for elected officials of this is all over the country. i just want people to realize this is what is being put forth that this is what you are electing. host: are you talking about the non-politicians and the appeal

of not being a politician? caller: now because not being a politician is not an excuse for your character or your behavior or whatever. you cannot say just because i'm not a politician, it's ok for me to be elected with all the accusations. host: got it. guest: these are things that have sort of hurt walker's campaign here. he has one son and it turns out he has several other children. walker is running as the outsider but remember, someone else was a outsider to. republicans do have a voting record they can attack him on. it sort of a crime line between

politician. how long do you have to have been here? what was your day job before hand? we are seeing the analysis that you can find on our site there just coming to congress now, and that has been since 2010. host: let's take this next call from georgia, democrat caller. caller: good morning. i am from georgia. i will be voting for stacy abrams, but i voted for brian kemp because of his challenger. he was way far right for my taste. as far as brian kemp, he is -- it is a level of trustworthiness he does not have. the heartbeat deal, that he is openly hostile towards minorities and women, it is scary.

i remember when he was governor, and how it was focused on the economy in georgia, and it became the number one thing for businesses, and we have just gone so far into the social conservatism rabbit hole. it makes me want to move out of state. host: you are calling on the line for democrats. caller: i am a democrat. in georgia you do not have to be registered for a party to vote in the primary. i wanted to be more of a middle-of-the-road approach. you get someone who is super far right, as opposed to brian who is more in the middle. he is not supporting trump openly. these very hostile towards minorities. host: thank you. jessica? guest: she's right.

in a state like georgia, this happens in other primaries ready want a more pragmatic candidate. i will vote for stacey abrams, but might backup plan is i would rather have brian kemp and david perdue. that is not surprising to me. she brought up the issue of abortion. we talked about how that is changed, with the environment, the trajectory for democrats, this is an something that abrams needs. a boost against brian kemp. i think this is about decisions that will matter more and governor races because they are the ones that are sending it back in georgia. they have trigger laws on the books that would come into effect. gretchen whitmer in michigan is blocking that. tony ebert -- their law from 1800 would criminalize doctors

who perform abortions. so yes. how the issue, especially suburban women, we see that going back to the vote in kansas a couple of weeks ago. it was not an up or down vote, and that is not the case, although it is michigan. it's not as simple as a yes or no question. you have to decide on the candidate, but it showed us that is not the coalition. it was with voters and republicans. they voted to preserve the abortion protection, so it is not just a democratic issue, and in the trump years, republican struggled with college-educated women, and that is where they were bleated.

the abortion issue makes that harder. host: talk about the senate race. caller: this is an interesting one. these are the only two states held up by republicans and one by biden in 2020. ron johnson is the most endangered incumbent for republican spirit he has survived before when he was counted out, and written off in 2016, but he came back in one. he has an opponent lot -- now in the lieutenant governor. johnson is controversial pretty look at his approval ratings, and there in the 30's. that's not what we see for a successful incumbent. in early polling, there is a lead by lieutenant governor, but

he takes controversial positions , see will see that from republicans with teachers and say it polish ice and say medicare for all. we are going to see republicans really trying to defy this as extreme. that hasn't happened yet, but with a senator, he didn't have a lot of controversy. with code, he had a slate of electorates where an aide was apparently trying to get to mike pence. it was downplayed about what happens on january 6. i think it is economic issues you will hit on with social security or different things. it was one of the more comic k things in the country. host: let's hear from a voter in

pennsylvania. pat, independent. who do you plan to vote for? caller: no question, john fetterman. the earlier caller, a gentleman from georgia, he was absently right. stockton is not a politician. he's an elite. he's a snake oil salesman. anyone who's ever seen him -- he is a snake oil salesman. i don't want him anywhere near government control. also, commercials are really offensive. who has ever done anything bremer except the democrats? people have approached me during election time, and i say i cannot vote for you. but maybe i could. can you tell me one thing that republicans have done for the working class in this country, i

might go free. they sputter and they cannot come up with anything. host: why do you consider yourself an independent? caller: i have some misgivings about the democrats, as well. they don't hit hard enough or tout their achievements. what i think they should do is emphasize what the republicans won't go along with. there are so many bills on voted on because they don't bring them up. so republicans are once again tied with their hands. when obama was elected, the whole thing was that we will not pass anything he proposes, and that's what they're doing with biden. host: what about the governor's race? caller: schapiro. absolutely. his ideas and where he's going

to focus, it's for the people. what the people need in this country. guest: republicans have a week slate in pennsylvania. we talked about the senate primaries, and the caller typifies where federman is winning over independence. there was an ad about his medical career, and federman hurts people with his policy positions. he is leading into his background, and outplaying up the tv show where he pedaled questionable metal coal cures. federman -- medical cures. federman has a doctorate for that. you have doug mess triano who is raised no money and is endorsed by trump, but i think he was on pace to win that election, regardless. it is a week slate of

republicans, and he is open. it is democrat held, and wolf had the term limit. but josh schapiro did not have a primary, and mess rihanna was here on january 6. he has been one of the leading conspiracy theorist to overturn the election results. on abortion, he supports with no exceptions for rape or incensed. this changed after the primary. we changed to leaning democrat because democrats have an edge in both of these states. in pennsylvania, it is a state were republicans made gains after 2016. we saw it really changed in 2018. a backlash, and then nearly lead for biden again. i think candidates matter. they matter even more and governor's than in senate races. host: north carolina.

karen and columbus. independent. caller: i was going to mention about herschel walker, but i wanted to mention about dr. oz and federman. they're saying -- i'm not one of them, but dr. oz is a better person. he has -- federman has never worked a job in his life, and dilute off his family's wealth. to me, he has a pretend persona. herschel walker and rafael warnock, both of them have been accused of domestic violence. the ex-wife -- that's out the window. that should be part of the campaign issue. both men have been accused of domestic violence. guest: this issue came up in the first race where his wife was divorcing at the time. she alleged he had run over her

foot and the police came. they did not file a report. there has been a fight over child support. so yes, there was an accusation of things, but walker talked about the allegations, in the book, where in the frame of mental health, democrats were trying to make it an issue and they walk a tight rope, and he admitted that he held the gun, and this issues on both sides, but which way and suffer boaters -- which way it ends up for four boaters -- owners -- voters, we'll have to see. in the philadelphia inquirer were, there was a story that detailed how his parents had given him substantial amounts of

money way to his 40's, almost as 50's. trying to help. he ended up buying his systems -- sisters condo for a dollar. that is less than market value. he did make a lot of money as the mayor. he says that took this money to supplement so he could do jobs that did not pay as much. i think this will be a republican attack ad did they are frustrated up -- about these things are making it harder for them because something keeps happening. again, i think image matters. there is frustration from not looking like a politician, but boaters with first impressions matter. host: speaking of the working class, that senate race in ohio. you have tim ryan running from

youngstown, working-class area. what does it look like? guest: he was the best nominee democrats could get in this race be it he's the closest thing to the other senator who held on. he is really in the blue-collar working-class area, and he is running a phenomenal campaign, and even the republicans have admitted it. j.d. vance, who won the nomination, thanks to trump, they felt like he disappeared from the campaign trail after that any took it for granted. there was a super pac there. the dynamics have shifted there because it is after labor day when the campaign really begins in earnest, they're still

talking, they are worried about ohio. they are running a good campaign well vance has been mia. but there's been an authenticity problem there because he was never trumper and he became very famous for that, and he transformed into a trump acolyte. he is facing -- he left the state. there are questions about that, but republicans need vance to run a better campaign. host: ron in san clemente, republican. caller: always an honor. he may take into consideration that when he goes into the political report.

the days of guns and butter are over. that happened a long time ago. today, we have issues -- two issues, that i call the litmus test for running for senator or dogcatcher. if you believe that the election of 2020 was stolen, that's an important answer. the other answer is, because of the supreme court, that decision on abortion, they've upset every woman in the united states. one way or another. if you don't split of the running for office, where these down abortion, one hundred percent, and get a definitive answer, you're not going to find out who will win the election. you have to answer to questions. who won the election, and where you stand on abortion. thank you. i appreciate it always.

guest: these are questions we ask candidates, i'm assure you we do. abortion is one we talk about, and obviously, it has taken extra importance now. i will say with other candidates, for governor, it's a republican decision they are pro-life and antiabortion. there are exceptions for rape, but now are seeing candidates were not for any exceptions, not even the life of the mother. we haven't seen a republican candidate move away. they are trying to argue that after so many weeks into the third trimester, but the majority of americans are somewhere in the middle. when you have images of stories about a 10-year-old being raped and trying to carry that the term, a 14-year-old trying to carry that the term, changes for

a lot of people's minds. the issue about the election, it is still -- we ask candidates that, but it's a real and we have to, but that's how we see things. they are denying it is happening , and there have been people checking who are supposedly dead that were not. trump lost the election fair and square. really, in order to be in trump's good graces, that is the litmus test he has. we sell that fail in the georgia primary, with a multi-candy field, and how that played in a general election, we will see. let's talk about the arizona

race. guest: mark kelly one and 2020 and a special election to run again for a full term. here's another person who is able to run ahead of haydn, which he did in 2020. the husband of gabby gifford, he is an astronaut. he the dream candidate. i am an astronaut, you know? republicans have tried to sort of take the shine off of warnock and kelly, and they cannot because boaters like them. they are trying to make their candidates more palatable. another place right thing republicans got the weaker nominee is against kelly, we have blake masters. he is the former top aide to peter, the mega donor, and j.d. vance was also running a super pac, so these are candidates we are watching for a lot of money in the primary.

we are watching to see what will have an in the general election, and he is not done that. masters has run a very far campaign to the right. he flat out said, donald trump on the selection. he was dystopian and away, and walking through deserts and bemoaning how everything is terrible. then there is a shift after he won the election in the first primary, and it featured his wife for talking about how great he was as a family man and how he wants to make the country better. there were problems with approval, especially with women. kelly has been leading in poland, but the primary happens so we want to see what will happen post labor day, there is another place where republicans have not been incredibly optimistic about their chances there. in the governor's race is another place where you do have

an election denier and conspiracy theorist, and she was a former tv anchor, and she won the primary as well. katie hobbs is a democratic nominee who has been very vocal in defending a state election, but this is a true tossup. very good chance that he will still win, that would have implications for 2024 because she would not certify the election, and what happens if trump ones again? he loses arizona again. what happens with the electors in the state? we have not had to broach that. he ideally paid for. that would been a perfect senate nominee and i think we would talk about this race very differently. there were weaker candidates, and stronger candidates out of the race. particularly in arizona, it was not going and, in new hampshire. republicans long hoped and that

wouldn't have been the state most likely to flip. he did not cite the gridlock, and listen, it's a pushy job. you are in control, and you come to congress. you're one of 100, and we seen this frustration with governors as well, but it is the trumpism of the party. it also makes them not want to do it. sort of in the way he talked. host: this is not one you're watching, but reminds me that the governor's job is a cushy job in florida. guest: this is the third time he is wrong, and he ran 2010 and 2014, but as a democrat, from republican to independent, and democrat, we will watch that race. he is trying again. he is very popular and very strong. he is a hundred $25 million in

his campaign war chest. he raised the most of any candidate. he raised hundred cc 5 million at this point. there was no self funding. he has built an impressive operation. he is a likely republican, we don't consider it a at this point. it is really going to be a struggle there. i think he is wanting to point towards a big victory, as well. it would get him where he is going, clearly, in 2024. host: your answer to the miami herald is that if florida democrats choose chris, you think it will not be a win. guest: i don't see that in things radically change. florida is the democrats white whale. it is one of the only places where trump's numbers improved from 16 to 20. democrats have had an anemic ground game there.

the state has become more conservative, and there are a lot of retirees in the village is a perfect microphone of that, but hispanic voters, we sell republicans make gains in 2020, and there is polling that shows that. states like arizona, nevada. >> does that mean marco rubio is safe and the challenge from the congresswoman? guest: we have this race, but demings has built an impressive operation. it is sort of being built from scratch, and as a black woman, a former police chief over lando -- of orlando, she was a police chief. very noble -- notable to me that the campaign material has are not going by congresswoman book by chief.

rubio put out his own plate of police officers. all a lot of these are metros, and rubio has the edge, but giving the money and the weight she is building the campaign, it is worth watching, we believe. listen. i think she is a stronger candidate that democrats could've gotten. regular 2018, it may have been a different thing, but in a more neutral year, or a republican favored year, things are tight. they go back towards republicans post labor day. that's very hard. >> they can get to 47% in a place like florida. races will be tight there. but in the last three or four points, it's a herculean effort. pres. biden: calvin comic democratic caller. guest: --. caller: i'm going to bove or

stacey abrams in georgia. my reasons are the governor's race. georgia is a real state to steal. i think they just don't want that it they don't want to be the first black person to go into the governor's mansion. and governor warnock and herschel walker, they are not fit to be state senator. these going to be upon of trump, who i think is trying to build people to get to office around the country. it will have to be accountable to stacey abrams and going win this thing because we need to change things in georgia. have a great day. host: given this is a rematch of

a 2018 contest, it is passionate on both sides. he is very against stacey abrams. he is trying to be the first black woman to be governor that happens yet, and there are no republicans or black women after, harris became vice president. he has a good turnout effort, but we are still seeing him trailing in the polls and whether the abortion issue will tighten up. democrats have argued about the primary, and they have been lingle -- lingering. they dislike stacey abrams enough to turnout. host: nancy and, republican. caller: thank you for taking my

call. i wanted to discuss tutor dixon. he is running for governor again. i wanted to talk about -- i know that tutor had some issues on one topic. when i wanted to talk about what is important in michigan. it is about our housing. cost of housing. the rent. most importantly, groceries. there was grocery shopping yesterday. they are just unbelievable. people really care about these things. another thing is the schooling. there were huge problems with that. that is made its way to the republican's because the women are angry at the school board for the curriculum. the third thing is the big elephant in the room.

the abortion issue michigan. with tutors's view on abortion, i believe what is happening and it may change. it may come down to a few weeks for abortion, but that will not be wiped out. those are the things we were talking about with tutor. she is very charismatic, and she has a good chance, and i want to talk about my grandson. host: we are limited on time with jessica taylor. guest: gretchen whitmer, she took a lot of slack for covid restriction, and she is another person who elicited strong opinions on both sides of the aisle. i think that is a good example of someone who is not prioritizing the abortion issue, that is a weakness for dixon. she came behind to win the

primary, and it was a complete cluster. there were two main candidates, but it is a fraudulent signature. she is a conservative commentator, and she is the strongest out of the group that republicans have gotten, but in this prioritized asian of the economy, there are a lot of voters and that is the number one issue, so if you want to vote against biden, you vote in the election. the economy is still number one, and we are seeing other issues like abortion and threats to democracy rising, but i think that is so volatile right now. we've seen uptick with lower prices at the pump, and maybe some leaving, but with economic indicators, if you are a family trying to make ends meet, your

grocery bills going up, you don't care about these abstract numbers. that is still lingering and it is a big issue. as students are going back and there are covid restrictions, there is a bigger outbreak to watch, certainly. host: one more race to watch, nevada. guest: the van is an interesting state to watch. it is a very transient state. about half of the voters will be nooses 2016 when the seat was one. he is running against her, and with the center in state, he was involved in trying to block the election results. that is what democrats will focus on. i think, compared to walker.

he is sort of a generic candidate. there are not a lot of things there, compared to the other problem candidates so all things equal, it will be a competitive race. republicans love an opportunity to make inroads. host: thank you for your inward -- insight. you can follow her on twitter. thank you. are going to take a break. will more back, we will have open forum. any public policy issue. those of the lines on your screen. start dialing it.

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host: we are in open forums until the top of the hour at 10 a.m. eastern time. any public policy issue you have , we start with president biden. he is slated to announce student cancellation of loan payments. a pause of payments. that is today. the hill is reporting that the white house plans to report -- cancel a chunk of loan debt in addition to an extension of the payment pause. sources say president biden has an intended measure which will include 2000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers making less than 125,000 annually, as well as a payment freeze for four months. the figure will be the largest forgiveness of student loans per individual to date. this comes just one week ahead of the white house is self-imposed august 31 deadline. the timing has left millions of americans waiting for the

department of education on whether student loan payments have been deferred since the start of the pandemic, and they would resume next month you can call in on that, or on a public policy. jeff, independent. caller: good morning. first time caller. i wanted to comment on governor desantis. here in florida, we have a big surplus, a huge surplus of our schools and air-conditioned. we are 40 for the 40th in the country. we can't get new teachers. they won't pay anybody. that's my comment. i wish they would take care of our education down here. we are hurting on that. it makes no sense to have a huge surplus and have kids sitting in classrooms. thank you. host: are you voting for charlie in november?

caller: absolutely. no matter what party he is. he'll be fine. he'll be fine. host: go ahead susan. caller: i want to say something about donald trump. not everyone knows -- his followers don't want to know, and there was of $400 million dispute. $300 million as to a bank which is german but has russian ties. not to mention the other debts he owes. how do we know he would not take those papers to mar-a-lago and use them as a trade-off to cancel the debt? i would not push past and. i really would. he knows very well that the debt is not canceled. probate will do formally dies. that means creditors can go in and take with her own. long before his widow and getting a hold of that debt.

this all i want to say. thank you for hearing out. host: this came out from reuters yesterday. the archives discovered more than 700 pages of classified documents in florida, in addition to material sees this month by fbi agent's. this is according to newly disclosed record agencies. this is according to the former president attorney. that is from reuters. let's go to deborah, new york. hello. are you there? we are on open forum, deborah. let's go on to curtis. caller: hello. host: good morning. caller: can i go ahead? host: please. caller: do what?

host: curtis -- please meet your television. caller: yes. lower my television? host: you have to mute your television when you calling. caller: lonnie from clarksville, pennsylvania. hello. caller: i'm calling about dr. oz and john fetterman. i don't believe at this time, john fetterman is of sound mind to run for senate. i don't the key can handle it. he's from pennsylvania. he was supposed to do all the stuff for braddock, and if you go down to braddock, it looks like a garbage dump. when i've seen him, what he did in braddock, he didn't do anything.

he just flapped his gums. that's all i've gotta say. host: are you voting for dr. oz? caller: absolutely. host: bill, illinois, independent. caller: i was calling about student forgiveness. i have some concerns about that. i guess i don't want to put back on the taxpayers, but i think it should be put back on the universities who sold all these kids these loans. it just doesn't seem right, and i'm 71 years old. it just doesn't seem right to me that government bail sees people out. when people take this money, they profit from it. that's all i have to say. host: the front page of the washington times. nancy pelosi pleads guilty to a dui. her husband must complete a

sentence. real estate investors are two years in jail, and got good behavior credit for another two days for a plea deal. he is scheduled the surveyed hours in court programs instead of spending the remaining day behind bars. in the washington times, it was noted that in a video seen by fox news on a dashcam, of that arrest made of pull oc in may, when he was arrested of the dui. he could be heard mumbling and telling a police officer that he a glass of champagne before dinner, and a glass of white. he failed his sobriety test, as well. juanita in detroit michigan, democratic caller. good morning. what's your public policy issue? caller: i want to make some statements about trump. i thought he should never should

have been allowed to allow mar-a-lago is the winter white house. there were accusations against him. he should be disqualified. he is the most dangerous person for this country. that's all i have to say. host: jesse in maryland, democrat. good morning. caller: [indiscernible] when it comes to voting, -- allowed -- other people voting. gerrymandering. she got away from it. [indiscernible] do you know why? host: what's the question? caller: [indiscernible]

who can vote, into canto. host: why do they do that? in every state, the state legislature typically is the one who decides or commissions. there are all sorts of efforts and it varies across states. michelle, new york, republican. caller: hello, this is michelle. and my on? host: were listening. caller: i just wanted to say that i love c-span for their unfiltered view of everything. and also, i love the shout out to your cameraman. they are fabulous in court, they are fabulous everywhere you put them. i really appreciate that, but i want to say, the only thing that i ever talk about or concerns me, it's immigration. were letting everybody come here. washington, new york area what

are we doing and how are we helping these people of giving them a place to live, food, giving them work? that's my biggest concern. and about pelosi, her husband, when you drink if you're married to her? let's be real. host: let's move on. democratic caller from ohio. caller: i'm calling about the artemis rocket. it's going to be launched on between night. it's the sls. i wish nasa and the teams down there, that's my second thing. i seen images of that. they are spectacular. host: bev in missouri, republican. hello. caller: i'm a new caller.

i just wanted to say that i've been listening for several months now. every single morning. it seems to me, every time i hear a democratic caller common -- call in, all they want to talk about is how bad trump is. i want to point something out. no one has been talking about this for a long time. that's our deficit. when obama took over, our deficit was $10 trillion. $10.6 trillion. when he left office, eight years later, our debt was $27 trillion. when trump took over it was 27 showing dollars, when he left office, it was 21.6 trillion. so he had lowered it. now biden has taken over, and our debt has soared.

just in 17 months, he has added at least 9 trillion as of this so-called inflation reduction bill. it is at 31 or 33 trillion. but it's way over. his months, before the inflation reduction bill, he had added over nine showing dollars. host: where do you get your numbers? where do you do your research? caller: i did it online. and you had a guest last week, and i think it was last week, or the week four, who was from the -- oak gosh, i had it written down. host: talking about this issue.

earlier this morning and our first hour, we ask the opinion on the russian ukrainian conflict. today is the ukrainian independence day, marking 31 years of independence. it is also an anniversary of the war against russia. yesterday, they held a meeting at the request of russia, over that new -- nuclear power plant. russia and ukraine are accusing each other of the strike putting the facility and the surrounding communities in jeopardy. here is the undersecretary. she is the chief of political peace building affairs. talking about the militarizing the area. >> and agreement is urgently needed to reestablish the area as a purely civilian infrastructure. that is to ensure the safety of an area. we must be clear. any potential damage to the

plants or facility in ukraine may lead to incident. there were catastrophic consequences. only in the immediate vicinity for the region and beyond. similarly, any damage leading to the plant being cut from the ukrainian power grid would have catastrophic humanitarian applications, and in particular with winter approaching. the secretary-general has made it clear that the electricity produced longs to ukraine. at this moment, it is imperative that we receive military activities around the plant. and to enable safe and secure operations. to paraphrase, any potential damage to this operation is suicidal.

host: today, the secretary-general will brief members of the security council. just about 10 minutes away. we will have coverage of that on c-span. on her website at c-span network, and you can watch on demand. also, on our video app. c-span now. it's free. you can download on your phone. tim, michigan, independent caller. good morning. caller: good morning. go ahead. caller: my biggest problem is student loan forgiveness. i never had a chance to go to college, so i don't have one, but i seen a lot of other places, girls get a student loan. and until they get settled, we should not be doing this stuff. as far as the policies go, we need to hear from the victim of the accident about what we know is true. that's all. thank you.

host: bruce, democratic caller. caller: my thing is, a lot of people like myself and elderly people we were fixed incomes. we were promised stuff from biden. it is disgusting, and they want our votes, but economics are tough on them. food wise, are ranges gone up, and myself, it almost makes me not want to vote. but, i will, but it hurts when our rent is going up in her food is going appeared i live in oregon, and the gas has not gone down yet. thank you. host: leroy, mississippi, independent. caller: how are you?

my concern is that the democrats want to win in november, or any time, and they need to just show their voting records of all these senators and congressmen voted this year. host: gary, woodbridge, democratic caller. caller: good morning. you had a caller from a few minutes ago, and they were speaking about the deficit. of how it was with obama, and with trump did they did so much research, and they understood that from the time obama was in office, it went up. trump had the benefit of seeing the work that obama did, and that's why it went down. they really need better research. host: john in new jersey. independent. what's the public policy issue on your mind.

caller: good morning p it i have a couple issues. i'm concerned about all of the money that we are printing. if this goes on, with democrats and republicans, there will be no guardrail in place. i will give you a minute -- an example. the 200 million that states received two keep schools open, i'm very concerned about the 1.2 trillion that were going to spend on infrastructure, and the person that's going to manage that money is a small town mayor. he patted himself on the back when we had ports open, 24/7, and there was a comment about that. my second issue is president biden's energy policy. i don't know if you were able to

watch john kerry question and answer, accuracy. john kerry dictated president obama's energy policy, and that being said, when the president says, may in america, that's not going to happen. it will be assembled in america. the last topic i would like to touch base on, and as much as i hate to say it, but trump -- the bottom line is simple. trump spells news. that's why we hear trump over and over. i wish republicans would wake up, and i would give them the best person for the presidency,

that be condoleezza rice. that's what our country needs, and they are a winner, and if that's the best the republicans can do, shame on them. host: in case you missed earlier, jerry nadler said the 55% of the vote went to karen maloney, 47% with the judiciary committee. the oversight committee with the victory speech. here's a bit of the concession speech. together, we must move forward with are legacies, and to continue to open doors and all

forms of discrimination to smash glass ceilings. we must continue to be unboxed. and a campaign slogan -- we must remind people that the woman's place is in the house and the house of representatives is going by that. if there is one important lesson to be learned, in congress, it is that when women are at the table, decisions get made. the menu of issues expands, and the agenda changes. to include things that directly affect our lives, our children, our families. speaker pelosi proves this is true. she has successfully moved the house to pass more progressive legislation than any other time. with the filibuster in place, the agenda stalls and we must maintain a democratic account and increase margins in the

senate. we must stop the extremists who are working to end democracy. i am saddened that we no longer have a woman representing us in congress, and we cannot and must not give up. the fight continues. were conceding a loss in the 12 district in new york. to her fellow incumbent. in miami, republicans. we are an open forum. good morning. host: good morning. the first thing i would like to mention is that in the ukraine, we should do a lot more from the beginning. this is not helped as far as it has gone. the second thing is trump. he is an information person who doesn't understand information is a free will. not a cold coming.

he is just a narcissist, and he's not going to ever get it. republicans, please let trump go. host: d.c., independent, you are next. caller: i like to correct the woman to talk about budget deficits. the act -- the actual numbers under donald trump work an increase of 6.6 trillion dollars in four years. under president obama, increased 6.7 trillion in eight years. it is one of the biggest increases of deficit, and the economy was doing well.

the deficit went down under donald trump, and is absently not true. host: danielle in indiana, democratic policy -- democratic caller. what's the policy issue in your mind? caller: i can't understand why donald trump would come to the republican rallies. for an example, they talked five minutes, 10 minutes to republicans, and basically he was campaigning for himself. why would they do that it's a surprise to me. why would they let him ramble on about his situation, instead of backing up and doing what he was supposed to do when he was down there? that's all i've got. host: christian, democratic caller.

caller: i hear that someone just did, i hope republicans are paying attention to the fact that they went to sunset social security and medicare, and veterans benefits. we've really got to start paying attention to what they want to do. i hope people take it seriously when they go vote. i know there are a lot of people that depend on that. host: leo, florida, republican. hello. one more try here for leo. go ahead. leo in florida. caller: yes, this is leo. i just and watching your show, and i wanted to ask one question. how are you doing? host: i am good. what is your question? caller: i want to ask a couple

questions about what people think about the issues with china. and, i'm seeing they are selling farmland to the chinese. why do they keep selling our farmland the chinese. host: all right. reminder to you or others, please mute your television and talk through your phone. the front page of the usa today, and just a few minutes here. the united nations security council will get reefed by the secretary-general about the ukraine russia conflict. it marks six months of war. the front page says the crimes of war and the pursuit of justice. one is a war crime? under international law, they include atrocities against property, murder, ill-treatment, sexual violence, it deportation, hostagetaking, torture. the destruction of property, and devastation not testified to by

military necessity. inside the paper, there will be reporters -- international investigations, prosecutors, security services and forensics. efforts to take part, offer -- often searching for dozens of death each day. ukrainian prosecutors have fanned across the country to collect evidence of war crimes. this includes artillery shells and examples from human remains. it includes photos, videos, details, and notes as they inspect damage. sometimes bodies are exhumed. soil samples are taken. cell phone data or intercepts may be located. the united nations security council, its members states

sitting down in new york. we will take you there live. >> do u.n. security council is meeting to discuss the latest developments in the russia ukraine war. the people of ukraine will celebrate ukrainian independence day. this meeting is set to start

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[scattered conversation] >> this morning, the un security council is meeting to discuss the russia ukrainian war. this as ukrainian people celebrate ukrainian independence day. this meeting is set to start shortly live on c-span.